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BREAKING NEWS: Diamondbacks Trade Eugenio Suárez To Seattle Mariners For Tyler Locklear And More · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of Snake's Territory. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Jesse Friedman. That's Jack Summers and Jack. Here we are
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  Speaker 1: with another emergency edition of the podcast. As the Diamondbacks
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  Speaker 1: trade au Hennio Suarez back to the Seattle Mariners and
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  Speaker 1: they get three prospects in return. Its first baseman Tyler Locklear,
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  Speaker 1: right handed pitcher Juan Burgos, and right handed pitcher Hunter Cranton,
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  Speaker 1: all prospects in the Mariners system. Jack, of course, the
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  Speaker 1: headliner here is the first baseman, Tyler Locklear, who made
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  Speaker 1: his big league debut last season and has put up
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  Speaker 1: some pretty good numbers here in Triple A in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on a heater for about a week
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  Speaker 2: just before getting called up to the Mariners, and he
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  Speaker 2: has not appeared in a game with the Mariners this year.
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  Speaker 2: He's in Sacramento right now, and he's about to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: head over to the Diamondbacks locker room, I guess in
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  Speaker 2: the morning, and so they'll move from there. But he'd
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  Speaker 2: hit like five home runs in seven games and was
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  Speaker 2: hitting over four hundred. That really, you know, upped his numbers,
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  Speaker 2: and so that power jag had him. You know promoted already,
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  Speaker 2: and I guess Bob Nightingale had tweeted. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was that, you know, Jerry Depoto was bragging about Locklear
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  Speaker 2: and how well he was doing and raving about him
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  Speaker 2: at the Hall of Fame ceremonies, so I'm sure he
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  Speaker 2: was doing his salesman work there.
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  Speaker 1: So Tyler Locklear, you look at his numbers in Triple
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  Speaker 1: A this season, and they're pretty impressive. Locklear has played
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  Speaker 1: ninety eight games, he slashed three sixteen, four oh one
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  Speaker 1: five forty two, nineteen home runs and eighty two RBI. Granted,
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  Speaker 1: this is the Pacific Coast League. We're used to giving
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  Speaker 1: that caveat around here. The Mariner's Triple A affiliate is
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  Speaker 1: in Tacoma, though, which is definitely the most pitcher friendly
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  Speaker 1: environment out of all of the PCL ballpark, So maybe
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  Speaker 1: not quite as extreme as what we're used to seeing
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  Speaker 1: for the d Backs in Reno. But what really stood
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  Speaker 1: out to me here, Jack, is that if you look
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  Speaker 1: at Tyler Locklear's numbers, something changed for him in the
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  Speaker 1: month of June. I went back and looked at his
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  Speaker 1: game logs, and if you use June twentieth as a separator,
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  Speaker 1: the numbers are enormously different before and after that date.
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  Speaker 1: From the start of the season through June nineteenth, in
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  Speaker 1: Triple A, Locklear hit two eighty two, three seventy two,
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  Speaker 1: four to twenty seven. That's a seven ninety nine ops.
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  Speaker 1: It's not terrible, but it's also not great in Triple
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  Speaker 1: A in a fairly hitter friendly environment. But from June
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  Speaker 1: twentieth to now, Tyler Locklear in Triple A three ninety four,
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  Speaker 1: sixty one in eighty eight, A twelve forty nine ops.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly he made some sort of a mechanical change. I
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  Speaker 1: saw someone talking about this on Twitter who probably follows
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  Speaker 1: Mariner's prospects more than I do. There's a tangible mechanical
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  Speaker 1: change that he made, and it appears to have made
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  Speaker 1: quite a difference. And Jack, I imagine that's part of
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  Speaker 1: the calculus here for the Diamondbacks where they feel like
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  Speaker 1: they're getting a different player than maybe what Tyler Locklear
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  Speaker 1: was at the beginning of this season.
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  Speaker 3: Right by the way.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the other thing here too, is you know
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  Speaker 2: they're filling first base right where you know, they didn't
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  Speaker 2: really have a first basement ready to go next year
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  Speaker 2: unless you believe that peven Smith, Tristian English. You know,
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  Speaker 2: platoon is the way you want to go in the future,
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  Speaker 2: and they just didn't have anybody in triple A or
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  Speaker 2: even in Double A really that you can say is
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  Speaker 2: close and could get up here and help. So one
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  Speaker 2: of the things that Nick Pricora had written about recently,
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  Speaker 2: which kind of raised an eyebrow, but I wish try
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  Speaker 2: to focused on a little bit more, was the comment
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  Speaker 2: that they could target a position player or two, Whereas
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  Speaker 2: you know, the assumption has always been and that they're
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  Speaker 2: targeting un controllable pitching, and we've talked.
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  Speaker 3: About that forever. We kind of overlooked the fact that Mike.
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  Speaker 2: Was interested in position player, and sure enough, the first
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  Speaker 2: big trade he makes of one of his bigger trade chips,
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  Speaker 2: he brings back a position player.
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  Speaker 1: So pretty interesting, and I think you and I had
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  Speaker 1: talked about this with the Mariners as a potential trade partner. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: the Dbacks already made a trade with the Mariners for
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  Speaker 1: an asset you didn't expect to get as much for
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  Speaker 1: in Josh Naylor, but that was always going to be
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  Speaker 1: a challenge with these two teams. On a Gino Suarez trade,
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners just didn't have that young pitcher who was
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  Speaker 1: close to the big leagues, but that you figured was
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  Speaker 1: actually available.
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  Speaker 3: You weren't.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you weren't going to get one of their
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  Speaker 1: established young starters. You weren't going to get Brian Wu
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  Speaker 1: you know, Logan at we talked about maybe you'd want it,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you wouldn't, But either way, I kind of doubt
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners would have made him available. And beyond that,
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners, for as good of a farm system as
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  Speaker 1: they have, they actually don't have very many pitchers near
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  Speaker 1: the top of that list. It was basically Ryan Sloane
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  Speaker 1: was the name that you and I kept going back to.
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  Speaker 1: Sloan is listed as the number five prospect over on
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  Speaker 1: MLB pipeline, but he is down in a ball right
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  Speaker 1: now and you're probably looking at, you know, twenty twenty eight,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine before you're going to see Sloan in
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  Speaker 1: the majors. And we know the Diamondbacks are not that
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  Speaker 1: that's not their priority right now. They want to try
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  Speaker 1: to fill out their rotation and fill out their roster
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six more so than they're thinking, you know,
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  Speaker 1: several years down the road. So with the Mariners in particular, Jack,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not surprised it went this direction with a position
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  Speaker 1: player being the headliner asset for the Dbacks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, a couple other little points, interesting points about Locklear.
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  Speaker 2: He's had pretty heavy reverse splits. I was looking at
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  Speaker 2: his splits and you know, it's like nine forty four ops.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, ten thousand ops against righty, seven ninety four
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  Speaker 2: against lefties this year, uh eight thirty two, seven eighty eight,
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  Speaker 2: last year nine seven ninety three, the year before that
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  Speaker 2: in twenty three.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I always.
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  Speaker 2: Preach ignore reverse splits. They're not real, they don't last,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll stick by that. But what I can glean
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  Speaker 2: from this, a lot of times, you know, younger players
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  Speaker 2: actually just aren't seeing enough left handers because only the
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  Speaker 2: best left handers get up to the majors, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of there's a pretty high attrition rate with
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  Speaker 2: left hand pitchers, right so I think that's part of it.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe, you know, especially also growing.
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  Speaker 2: Up, you know, going to school, high school, college and
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  Speaker 2: all of that, and it just takes them a while.
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  Speaker 2: So some guys have pretty big reverse splits in the
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  Speaker 2: minors and then all of a sudden they get to
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  Speaker 2: the majors and everything normalizes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's likely going to be the case. But
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  Speaker 3: the encouraging thing here then.
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  Speaker 2: Should be, you know, as he sees lefties more, he'll
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  Speaker 2: probably get better against lefties, and certainly should being to
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  Speaker 2: hold his own more than more than able to hold
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  Speaker 2: his own category against right hand pitching.
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  Speaker 1: I think at this stage what would maybe be concerning,
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  Speaker 1: if anything, is if there was a huge split and
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  Speaker 1: he was, you know, great against lefties but just not
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  Speaker 1: really doing anything against righty's. You can deal with this.
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  Speaker 1: You can deal with the guy who has roughly even splits.
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  Speaker 1: You kind of figure that that over time, the hitting
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  Speaker 1: against lefties is going to come. One other point I'll
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  Speaker 1: make about Lockley er real quick Jack, I made that
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  Speaker 1: distinction earlier between before June twentieth and then after June twentieth,
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  Speaker 1: and how big of a difference the surface level numbers have.
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  Speaker 1: I want to take that a layer deeper and talk
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  Speaker 1: about some of the underlying numbers. I did a search
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  Speaker 1: over a baseball savant his barrel rate from June nineteenth
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  Speaker 1: and before that five point two percent and from June
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  Speaker 1: twentieth onward nineteen point one percent. Wow, the average exit
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  Speaker 1: VLO was eighty eight point three before June twentieth. After
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  Speaker 1: June twentieth it was ninety four point five, So you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about really really significant differences there. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: exactly what the mechanical change was. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: try to speak on that with any authority right now,
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  Speaker 1: but I saw someone reference this on Twitter, and clearly
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  Speaker 1: there's something that happened there, and I have to believe
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  Speaker 1: that was a big factor here for the dbacks. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: on paper, jacket looks like two completely different hitters. This
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  Speaker 1: is a guy who's really really done a lot of
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  Speaker 1: damage here recently.
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  Speaker 2: So somebody just texted me tweet from Oliver Bacner, who's
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  Speaker 2: a prospect writer and draft writer, and he's completely supporting
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  Speaker 2: exactly what he just said. Tyler Locklear adjusted a high
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  Speaker 2: noisy handload in early June. He quoted numbers since June
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  Speaker 2: eleventh is Afa Jecksavila one from eighty seven to ninety five.
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  Speaker 2: His hard hit rate went from thirty eight to fifty four.
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  Speaker 2: Barrel and launch angle have gone up, previously hitting two
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  Speaker 2: sixty five with a three sixteen, and then it went
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  Speaker 2: to three ninety four seven eighty four, so his starting
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  Speaker 2: and after points were a little bit different. But a
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  Speaker 2: noisy handload high noisy handloard, so obviously you know, quieted
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  Speaker 2: things down up at the top there. So that's that's
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  Speaker 2: really interesting that there might be a specific mechanical adjustment
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  Speaker 2: that was behind this massive change.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing I'll say about Locklear for all the
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  Speaker 1: prospect list junkies out there, I know people of course
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  Speaker 1: are looking up Mariners top prospects and seeing where Lockley ranks.
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  Speaker 1: He's at number nine on MLB Pipeline. The Mariners had
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  Speaker 1: eight prospects in the top one hundred, so Locklear is
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  Speaker 1: the highest ranked guy who was not on that list.
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  Speaker 1: He's not a top one hundred guy at MLB Pipeline,
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  Speaker 1: but again he's theoretically right on the brink of it.
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  Speaker 1: He's their highest ranked guy who isn't on that list.
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  Speaker 1: Over at fangrafs.
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  Speaker 2: No, wait, I tell you, this is a total fail, Jesse.
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  Speaker 2: He's not in the top one hundred.
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  Speaker 3: It's a fail.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not necessarily saying that this is a
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  Speaker 1: great trade. I think maybe when we get to the
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  Speaker 1: end of this live stream and the dust has settled
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  Speaker 1: a little bit for both of us, we can kind
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  Speaker 1: of gather our thoughts of how we actually feel about
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  Speaker 1: this thing. It's gonna take me maybe a little while
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  Speaker 1: to really reflect, but yeah, Tyler Locklear is not a
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  Speaker 1: top one hundred guy. The other thing I saw a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people referencing was that over at Fangraphs, Fangrafts
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  Speaker 1: actually updated their Mariners prospect lists in mid June, and
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  Speaker 1: they have Lockleier. I believe it was the number twenty
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  Speaker 1: two prospect in the Mariners organization. It was number twenty
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  Speaker 1: one or twenty two, a forty future value, which is
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  Speaker 1: not a particularly high number. But again, I go back
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  Speaker 1: to these numbers that you and I have just been quoting.
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  Speaker 1: That that scouting report was published on June thirteenth, which
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  Speaker 1: is before Lockilier made the adjustments that you were just
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  Speaker 1: talking about, and we've seen this enormous difference in the output.
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  Speaker 1: So I have to believe if fan Graps was to
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  Speaker 1: do their rankings again today, you know, maybe the numbers
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  Speaker 1: would look a little different.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, for sure. I mean, you know, they're kind of
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  Speaker 2: like the rankings I do. They're very much results oriented, right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not a scout I'm not out there
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  Speaker 2: watching these guys. I'm doing the same thing that everybody
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  Speaker 2: else is doing, which is looking at numbers and watching
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  Speaker 2: video when I can get my hands on it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and then talking to people that know more than I do,
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  Speaker 2: and then hopefully I can assimilate some of that information
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  Speaker 2: until I get a chance to actually see the player
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  Speaker 2: play myself on see for myself on a regular basis.
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  Speaker 3: You know. Once I get to see a guy.
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  Speaker 2: Every day, you know, then I kind of can trust
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  Speaker 2: my ability to weigh what the numbers say with what
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  Speaker 2: I'm seeing and you know, see what passes a spell
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  Speaker 2: test and what doesn't. But if I haven't seen them
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  Speaker 2: play a lot, it's you know, you just have to
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  Speaker 2: go by what you have.
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  Speaker 1: Ernesto in the chat said that Locklear's eighteen stolen bases
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  Speaker 1: isn't getting enough attention, something we should definitely mention. He
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  Speaker 1: has eighteen stolen bases in Triple A this year in
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  Speaker 1: twenty four attempts, so not an outrageously good success right there.
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  Speaker 1: But he does have thirty nine career stolen bases in
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  Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty five games, So at the very
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  Speaker 1: least Jack's He's maybe someone that Dave McKay can work
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  Speaker 1: his magic with right over over at first base. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: there's a few stolen bases to be had in the
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  Speaker 1: majors for Locklear as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, at least we know he's athletic enough
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  Speaker 2: to do that, right, I mean, whether that translates into
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  Speaker 2: a stolen base total, we're talking about an athlete.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it was a third base when moved over
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  Speaker 3: the first You know, the.
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  Speaker 2: Reports are that he's at least decent over there, so
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  Speaker 2: the fact that he can run a bit is encouraging
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, defense is going to be a big factor
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  Speaker 1: for the Dbacks as well. MLB Pipeline gave him a
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  Speaker 1: forty five on the twenty to eighty scale with the
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  Speaker 1: fielding grade. I think Fangrafts had a sixty future value
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  Speaker 1: but a thirty present value in terms of defense. So
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  Speaker 1: it appears there's a ways for him to go, but
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  Speaker 1: that maybe there's some potential for him to settle in
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  Speaker 1: pretty nicely on the defensive side of the ball. Certainly
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  Speaker 1: for the Diamondbacks. That's going to be a point of
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  Speaker 1: emphasis going into next season. Of course, Jack, there are
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  Speaker 1: two other players here which we haven't really talked about yet,
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  Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and do that. We'll start with
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  Speaker 1: Juan Bergos, a twenty five year old right handed reliever
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  Speaker 1: who has pretty good numbers in the minors. This year,
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  Speaker 1: spent most of the season at Double A, a zero
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  Speaker 1: point six y four er there, he was promoted to
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  Speaker 1: Triple A, spent all of four games there, three innings pitched.
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  Speaker 1: He allowed one run in those three innings, and then
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners recently promoted him to the majors and had
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  Speaker 1: him make his big league debut. He went six and
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  Speaker 1: two thirds innings in the majors, gave up three runs,
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  Speaker 1: two walks, eight strikeouts. Underlying numbers, for whatever it's worth,
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  Speaker 1: looked pretty good in that stretch. It I think he
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  Speaker 1: held his own well enough during his stint in the majors. Jack,
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  Speaker 1: what stands out to you about Juan Burgos?
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  Speaker 2: Just a ninety six mile an hour sinker with a
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  Speaker 2: pretty deep repertory, throws a lot of different pictures, So
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  Speaker 2: he's got velocity, and he throws quite a number of
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  Speaker 2: pitches for a reliever. So we'll see how that, you know, translates.
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  Speaker 2: They'll probably pair that down to three. Most likely that
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  Speaker 2: he primarily uses that's usually the way that goes. They'll
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  Speaker 2: figure out what he throws best. What stood out to
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  Speaker 2: me here was you texting me earlier saying that I
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  Speaker 2: think Burgos is the type of guy that the Diamondbacks
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  Speaker 2: would target. Now, why didn't you tweet that, Jesse? You
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  Speaker 2: could have got all that credit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I never feel confident enough about these things to put
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  Speaker 1: it out publicly because then, I, you know, I risk
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  Speaker 1: being hated on by the people once inevitably that player
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  Speaker 1: is not in the trade. But here, apparently I lucked
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  Speaker 1: out jacket. Yes, Juan On Burgos was part of this
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  Speaker 1: deal for the d Backs, right, So you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, look, I don't know much more than anybody else
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  Speaker 2: here does about him. Again, I've never seen him pitch.
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  Speaker 2: I've been doing the same thing everybody else is doing.
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  Speaker 2: But I think the point is that my co host
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  Speaker 2: here is very much in tune with what the Diamondbacks
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  Speaker 2: are looking for.
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  Speaker 3: And so I think that's the key thing.
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  Speaker 2: That we all have to remember here is you know,
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  Speaker 2: they have scouts with eyes on these guys. These are
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  Speaker 2: players that they've studied. You know, I'm certainly not in
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  Speaker 2: a position yet to make any kind of you know,
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  Speaker 2: value judgment on guys that I don't know much about.
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  Speaker 2: I can pretend that I do, but I'm doing what
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  Speaker 2: you guys are doing, and then just trying to understand
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  Speaker 2: and interpret the data. I like guys that throw hard
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  Speaker 2: and throw a number of different pitches, right, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if it's a guy throws hard and he's a two
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  Speaker 2: pitch pitcher, and you eliminate the second pitch, then everyone's
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  Speaker 2: just going to sit on the fastball. So what I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be most interested to see with him is
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  Speaker 2: which of his wide repertoire, which of his other four
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  Speaker 2: pitches does he hold on to and become effective with,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because we don't have any data on him,
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  Speaker 2: Like we don't have stackcast stuff from Double A.
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  Speaker 3: He's got, you know, a.
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  Speaker 2: Few innings in the majors and a few innings in
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  Speaker 2: Triple A, and so there's just really nothing to look
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  Speaker 2: at there. So we're just going to have to wait
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  Speaker 2: and see if he starts in the major leagues or
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  Speaker 2: starts with Reno, and then start really digging in on
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  Speaker 2: his data.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll know more later.
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  Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see what the Diamondbacks decide
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  Speaker 1: to do there. He was promoted in late June up
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  Speaker 1: to the majors, and then he was sent back down
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  Speaker 1: to Triple A on July twenty first, so just a
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  Speaker 1: little over a week ago. He's not all that far
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  Speaker 1: removed from being in the majors. We'll see if the
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  Speaker 1: d Bacs want to bring him back up or give
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  Speaker 1: him a little bit more time in the minors. As
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  Speaker 1: I said earlier, he's only pitched four games in Triple A,
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  Speaker 1: so you could understand if the d Backs wanted him
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  Speaker 1: to get a little more experience at that level, even
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  Speaker 1: though he was totally dominant in Double A earlier in
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  Speaker 1: the season. The other guy as part of this deal, Jack,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: is another right handed pitcher, Hunter Cranton, twenty four years old.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Selected in the third round, ninety first overall just last
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: season by the Mariners. He was a bit of an
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: older draft pick. He's twenty four years old now, and Jack,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: there aren't a whole lot of innings in the miners
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: to speak of here. He has a one point nine
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: to six ERA in the miners, but that's across just
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: nineteen games. He is currently in High A, where he
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: has a one point one to three ERA working out
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: of the bullpen.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I want to have tip our good
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: friend Aaron Hughes one more time. He was the one
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: that tipped me off to the fact that Cranton missed
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of time due to getting hit by a comebacker.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: He was hit on the job by a line drive.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: And so that's why his endings he missed a lot
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: of time because of that, and that's why his endings
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: totals this year are quite low. But he's got some
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: great stuff. Yes, he's an older prospect, you know again
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: people just opening up the book and seeing, oh, twenty
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: four year old and hia with few innings.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: But I wouldn't go by that.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's clearly got to be a reason why
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks would target him, and I think some of
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: the information that we've seen on him, you know, his
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: fastball can get up to ninety nine.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: He's got eighteen.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Induced vertical break or a little over eighteen. That's you know,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: some pretty impressive movement. This guy's got a big fastball.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this stuff is definitely what definitely what stands
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: out here. Yeah, looking at just some highlights from his
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: collegiate career, it's pretty impressive. And this is a guy
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: it appears Jack. The plan from the Mariners side was
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: always to just develop him as a reliever. He hasn't
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: started a game in the minor leagues, and you figure
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the d Backs will just follow that same course of
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: action and try to bring him up as a reliever,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: and you know, maybe he's a big part of this
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Diamondbacks bullpen someday later on, Well, how do we feel
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: about this? Do we feel like the Diamondbacks got enough here?
• 18:56
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• 20:06
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• 20:08
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• 20:18
  Speaker 1: i guess now that we've talked about each of these
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: guys a little, bit we can step back a little
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: bit and we can see The diamondbacks acquiring The mariners number,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: nine number, sixteen and number seventeen prospects according TO mlb
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: pipeline For Aohennio, suarez and we can ask the, question
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: how do we feel about? It did The diamondbacks get
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: enough in this? Trade i'll start with, You, jack what
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: do you?
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: THINK i don't.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Know that's not the correct, answer, right that's the. Answer
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: we're being. Honest that's not What i'm supposed to.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Say that's not what everybody wants to. Hear but, again
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: we're reacting to this, with you, know forty five minutes
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: of knowledge on these. PLAYERS i, MEAN i knew a
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: little bit About, locklear but not a. LOT i knew
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: nothing about the two. Relievers and, look they're relievers that
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: basically you're just gonna have to wait and see how
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: they play. Out i'm kind of stepping back and trying
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: to see bigger picture. Here how DO i feel about
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: this trade in the context of the other two trades
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: that have been made where they picked up two relievers
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: in a. Starter clearly they're still pretty far off from
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: their goal of getting controllable starting.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Pitching SO i would be.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Lying IF i SAID i wasn't a little disappointed that
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: in the trade For Juhenniel. Suarez they don't have a
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: controllable starter that they can just plug in a, rotation
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: if not immediately now somebody that looks really close that
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: would be able to make their, debut maybe out of
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: camp in twenty six or something like. THAT i, MEAN
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: i was definitely hoping for, That So i'm a little
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: disappointed that it's not. That but at the same, time
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: there's a difference between hope and, belief and anyone that's
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: been listening to this podcast knows that there's kind of
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: a gap between what my hope and what my belief.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Was going to be on the.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Return, yeah so my expectations were already kind of at
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: a level of about where we're at with this. Deal
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: so my initial reaction, is, yeah it's. Fine they got
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: a couple of potential believers that are going to pitch
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: into major leagues at some. POINT i, MEAN i would
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: believe that both of them are eventually going to be
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: in the major, leagues and they got a guy that
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: they can plug into first base.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, YEAH i think that stepping back, this certainly we
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: can be honest and say that this is not what
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: The diamondbacks, wanted, RIGHT i think we can just kind
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: of straight up, say based on the, reports assuming those
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: reports are, accurate this return is not in line with
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: what The diamondbacks initial ask, was or maybe even really
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: all that close to. It there was a report From Daniel,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: kramer who covers The mariners over AT mlb dot, com
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: saying that The diamondbacks were asking for two of The
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: mariner's top one hundred, prospects And Tyler, locklear AS i said,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: earlier is not a top one hundred. Guy so theoretically
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the D backs were asking for two guys that were
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: more that were more highly thought of than the best
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: player The diamondbacks got in this, deal at least on
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: paper right. Now so from that, standpoint it is clear
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: That diamondbacks had to compromise. Here this is not what
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: they set out. For on the other, Hand, jack there's
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: also the perspective of the D backs Trading gino back
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: to The, mariners the same team they acquired him, from
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: which is kind of funny how that worked, Out and
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: on that from that, standpoint this is a pretty massive.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Win The diamondbacks essentially Acquired gino in a salary, dump you,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: know in late twenty twenty. Three they sent The Mariners
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Carlos vargas And Sebbi, zavala two assets who had had
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: very little value at the, time and they took On
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: geno's contract and that was basically. It they gave up
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: next to nothing For gino when they made that, deal
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: and here they're clearly getting a whole lot more than.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: That so from that, standpoint The, diamondbacks this Whole Geno
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Suarez diamondbacks arc has has gone pretty well for. Them
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: he was exactly what they needed at third base here
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the last year and a, half and now they were
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: able to cash in and acquire a whole lot more
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: than what they initially dealt to get.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: HIM i THINK i want to ask a question back to, You,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: jesse did they clear the bar of the value of
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: the compensation? Pick if you make the assumption That gino
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: would have got at least three fifty, one maybe he
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: doesn't quite get the full amount That Christian walker would have,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: got but just say he gets three fifty, one three,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: years seventeen million average annual and that gets you that first,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: pick first round.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Pick did this trade clear that?
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Bar because that's been the bar THAT i, set and
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: That mike hasen set that everybody has.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Set you've got to do better than a comp.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Pick did, They, Well i'll repeat what you said earlier
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: in the, Show jack and, SAY i don't. KNOW i,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: mean at the end of the, day it's you, know
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: you have to see how how this plays, out, RIGHT i,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Mean Tyler locklear could be The diamondbacks first baseman of
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: the future for the next six. Years maybe he blossoms
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: into a really solid everyday player that is a member
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: of this team for a long. Time if it doesn't
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: go that, way then you know you're pretty dependent on two.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Relievers you feel like with the with the draft, pick
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you know you probably aren't drafting a relief pitcher that
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: high in the. Draft so it's hard for me to say, Definitively,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: jack just on, paper comparing the value of the, ASSETS
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: i think they probably did clear it just Given locklear
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: how it appears he's really trended in a promising direction
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: here in the last month or.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: So BUT i don't think it's.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: OBVIOUS i, MEAN i don't think it's, like, oh it's
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: not even. CLOSE i wouldn't be comfortable saying.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: That, YEAH i, MEAN i think you can probably say
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: they overall through volume cleared that. VALUE i, Mean lockley
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: was the second round draft, pick so it's not, like you,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: know he was an eighth round pick who's kind of.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Outperformed you, know he's got the pedigree of a second
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: round pick.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Already so that's pretty close right.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: There and the fact that he was performing in TRIPLE,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: a you, know that makes him got to be pretty
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: darn close to the value of you know what that
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: compensation pick would, be which.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Would be between twenty eight and thirty two or. Whatever,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Right so it's a late first round of very early second.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Round, however you want to kind of look at it
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: in your, mind so then you know it's the two reliever.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Prospects if one of them makes it to the, show
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: and you.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Know burgos is probably going to make, it, RIGHT i
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: mean he was there like a week.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: AGO i shouldn't say if they make.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: It if they make it to the show and aren't, terrible,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: sure you, know can give them thirty to sixty innings
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: a year over the next three years that are above
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: replacement level relief. Work, sure if you can get that,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: right if you can get one hundred and eighty, innings you,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: know or one hundred and plus innings over the next
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: two three years above replacement level relief work And locklear
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: sticks as a, starter then it's a home run for
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: two months Of geno.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Totally. Yeah and when you keep in perspective that you
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: are just talking about two months of Au Hennio, suarez
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: it you, know you don't necessarily need to get a
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: franchise player in. RETURN i don't think that was a
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: realistic ask. Necessarily. Yeah AND i Think jeff also made
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: a great point, Here, jack which is the fact that
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: this fits The diamondbacks competitive window a whole lot. Better
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: if you do you get the comp. Pick you, know
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: maybe it does turn out to be a great, player
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: but that player is probably not playing in the majors
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: until twenty twenty, eight twenty twenty, nine twenty, thirty you,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: know depending on how quickly they can. Develop and the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: D backs it feels like we're in a position where
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: they would rather have the guy who's. Ready, now this
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: is a team that wants to contend in twenty twenty
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: six and has some genuine holes to. Fill, like as
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you said, earlier the first base plan Post Josh naylor
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: is not clear at, all and obviously they have a
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: bit of a hole at third base that they're going
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: to have to figure out in the long run as.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Well so plugging that hole with a guy that you
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: can just you, know run with out of the, GATE
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: i think is pretty. Helpful.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean keep in, mind you, know The dbacks
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: had a cough up, slave soecny to Get Josh, naylor
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: you want him to get another good pitching, prospect to
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: get a first basement with one or two years of. Control,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: sure there's that. TOO i, mean, look it's a roll
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: of the, dice. Right you, Know locklear had sixteen games last,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: year wasn't able to make it. Happen he made some
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: improvements this. Year let's see if they're. Real this is
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: a this is a reasonable.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Chance, yeah that, WAY i think in terms of the
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: watchability of this team jack which is not necessarily a huge.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: FACTOR i don't think it was the driving force In
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Mike hazen's decision, here but the fact That Tyler locklear
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: is probably going to play, tomorrow or at least will
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: be available to play, tomorrow we think that's. SIGNIFICANT i
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: think it it breinges a little bit of new life
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: into the second half of this, season where dbaks fans
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: have been understandably very miserable here lately things have not
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: looked good on the, field and you, know there's no
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: saying That Tyler locklear is necessarily going to jump into
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: the lineup tomorrow and you, know go three for four
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: with two extra base hits or. Something but there's something
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: intriguing about getting to watch a young player who has,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: potential who's been raking in TRIPLE a here over the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: last month and clearly deserves the opportunity that he'll.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Get.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Right there's a question in the chat From Boras, witbeck
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: so who's on Third? Lawler as we mentioned a few days,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Ago lawler hurt his hamstring a month, ago a little
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: over a month, ago And Sean, Larkin i'm not, sorry
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Not Sean, clark And Chris liivka told me that he
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: would be out at least a. Month so WHEN i
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: spoke about this two three days, AGO i mentioned THAT
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: i would expect that the Closest lawler is is probably
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: another two. Weeks Gambo John gambadoro actually inquired on this
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: as well and said the same thing just now On,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: twitter which, is you, know he's getting. Close in other,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: words he's probably getting close to baseball. Activities, now you,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: know he's going to have to work out at The
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Complex league and there's no More Complex league games that,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: ended so he can't have. There But i'm sure he's
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: working out at the complex at The Salt River complex
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: and we'll see how long it takes him to get
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: back in the. Games my, guess, right don't expect to
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: See lawler in the major leagues Before september call. Ups
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: that's WHAT i, repect, right BECAUSE i think that he's
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: probably a couple of weeks out from getting into, games
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: and then he's going to have to play for a
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks and then they'll probably bring him up
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: In september call. Ups so from now Until, september you're
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: looking At Blaize alexander for the most.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Part, yeah that's a. Gad maybe that's a good, call.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: And they, may you, know like they may Bring Tim
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: tower back at some, point you, know if they feel
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: like he's made any adjustments that to asking him to.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Make tower can play third base as, Well so you,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: know If blaze isn't performing well And tower is doing
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: well In TRIPLE, a they could make a switch there
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and Give tower a few more weeks and see if
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: he's ready to make some, improvements and By september, ONE
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: i would Expect Jordan lawler to be at third.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Base, YEAH i think that's a that's a great, point
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: good analysis on your. Part we have A mariners fan
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: in the chat Saying locklear had been in the minors
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: for a while. NOW i think if he was going
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: to make it to the big leagues and be, decent
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: he would have done it by. Now we did reference
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: earlier That locklear did make HIS mlb debut in twenty twenty.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Four it did not go very well for. Him he
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: had a five thirty five. Ops it's quite a while ago,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: now but this is a valid, Point jack That locklear
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: has been In TRIPLE a for quite a. While he
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: played seventy games there last year and ninety eight games this.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Year so that's more than one hundred and sixty two
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: games one hundred and sixty eight games all together In TRIPLE.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: A so it is encouraging for sure to see this
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: mechanical adjustment In june pay off the way that it.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: HAS i think there's definitely something to that that intrigues.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Me at the same, time you, know a hitter In TRIPLE,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: A a in a hitter friendly, league you'd kind of
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: hope that after one hundred and fifty plus games that
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: the hitter would would start to make some, progress.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Which he, did, Right, YEAH i mean that's the.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Point you, Know, yes it's one hundred and sixty eight,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: games but he's made a lot of progress In TRIPLE.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: A i, mean he was a twenty twenty two, draftee
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: so it was kind of getting close to the a
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: now or never type thing if it lasted much longer
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: for him to kind of find. It BUT i don't
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: think IT'S i certainly don't think a twenty four year
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: old in his second go At TRIPLE, a you, know
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: that's crushing the ball is too.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Late BUT i.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Appreciate that perspective because it is getting closer to that.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: POINT i talk about it all the time once you
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: get over you, know WHENEVER i call my, LIST i,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: mean you you get those twenty five year Old TRIPLE
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: a guys, hitting putting up monster, numbers and it almost
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: never works out in the. Majors so twenty four is
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: bumping up. Again certainly would have been more reassuring had
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: he been able to force his way onto The mariners
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: roster before. This they certainly had a need at first
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: base and he wasn't able to do.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: It so that's a legitimate. Point.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Absolutely we got another comment in the chat That i'm
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: trying to find, here our Buddy Jeff. Irving my question,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: though is who is going to trade AN mlb ready
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: pitcher for a pitcher made more sense to get the
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: pitching From. Gino that's a fair point On jeff's. Part
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: if you're Trade, Merrill, kelly you're trading A Zach gallen,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: tomorrow and you are trying to land that young starting
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: pitcher that we've been talking, about the elusive young starting
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: pitcher that we know The diamondbacks would. Like you figure
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: it might be a little harder if you, know if
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: you're trading with a team that clearly needs, pitching otherwise
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't be dealing for one of those guys in
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: the first.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Place, yeah, well, hey maybe this is where we get
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: the infamous package deal And Zach merroll both.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Go to the same.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Team, wow you, know to some team that's just being super,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: aggressive like this is our, Year we're gonna make it
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: to The World. Series you, know a lot of those
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: options may be. DWINDLING i, mean we're seeing The Red
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: sox and The, astros two teams that we're looking for
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: starting pitching kind of making moving in some other, directions
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: so we'll have to see their market may be.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Narrowing, yeah, YEAH i think that's very. Possible on the
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: starting pitching, Front, jack it feels LIKE i still feel
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: fairly confident that The diamondbacks are going to wind up
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: trading both of those. GUYS i, Know gambo tweeted here
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: in the last thirty minutes or. SO i expect there
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: will be a lot happening. Tomorrow brace. Yourselves so that's
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: certainly telling and makes me think all the more that
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: those guys will be. Dealt but the starting pitching, Market
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: jack has been very strange so. Far we haven't seen
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of movement on that. Front it feels
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: like teams are kind of going the discount route so.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Far we've Seen Michael soroka come off the, books we've
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Seen Zach ltel from The Tampa Bay rays was acquired
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: earlier in the, evening but we really haven't seen any
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: of those marquee starting pitchers go just. Yet and obviously
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: that's kind of what the D backs are waiting. FOR i,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: mean maybe you're not Considering Zach allen A marquis starting
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: pitcher at this point in his, career but he has
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: he has a big time track, record and the D
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: backs are definitely going to be shooting higher than you
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: know what those teams got for those other pictures earlier.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Tonight, yeah, well you, KNOW i do want to circle
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: back to, You Henio. Suarez, YEAH i, mean what a.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Year Four player of the, WEEKS a four home a,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: game you, know thirty six home, runs eighty seven RBIs
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: what a tremendous.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Season you.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Know yes it was, streaky and yes it was up and,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: down and yes there were some things to be left
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: desired on the defensive, side but, man just watching him
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: step step forward and pull yet another blast into the
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: left field bleacher time and time and time.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Again it was.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Fun it was a lot of fun to, watch but
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: it was even more fun getting to know him and
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: interact with him and just see the kind of person
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: that he. Is i've said this before in the, blog
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: and just for anybody that's, NEW i just want to repeat.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: It everything that you see.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: And hear about, You Henniel suarez is. Real he's that.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Guy he's always got a, smile for. You he's always ever,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: vescent he's always, upbeaten. Positive he has his moments where
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: he shows his frustration and all, that but he genuinely
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: is that. Guy so you, know nobody everywhere he goes
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: they love him and there's a reason for. It and
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: SO i just really hope that now that he's got
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: a little bit you, know new stance going on and
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: ability to get out and make contact with the ball
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: six inches or a foot further in front of the,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: plate he can hit a few more bombs In, seattle
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: AND i would love to see that projection be wrong
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: about eleven more home. RUNS i hope he hits twenty five.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: MORE i think it would be the most killer thing
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: to see him come up to sixty one home. Runs
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: so we're All Gino suarez. Fans if anybody misunderstood anything
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: THAT i was saying, about you, know evaluations and, trades
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: please don't.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: MISREAD i think he.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Had a heck of a year and he's a heck
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: of a person AND i want him to have a
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: lot more.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Success that was very well.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: SAID i think that in ten twenty years from, Now,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: jack when people are asking on social media just for,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: fun like who are you, know who is your Favorite
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: diamondback of all, time or you know who are your
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: favorite like Random diamondbacks or. WHATEVER i Think Gino suarez
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: his name is going to pop up a lot in
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: those types of questions for, many many years to. Come
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: His diamondback's tenure was not very. Long you, know we're
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: talking about a year and two THIRDS i guess some
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: like two hundred and sixty, games but they were memorable
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: and not just the big numbers that he ended, with
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: but the storyline along the. Way we've talked about it
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: a lot, here but we were not very far last
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: season from seeing The diamondbacks Designate Gino suarez for. Assignment
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: that was a real. Thing there's reporting behind that that
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: that was at least a discussion that was going on
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: behind the. Scenes and thank, Goodness jack that The diamondbacks
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: did not do, that BECAUSE i cannot imagine how ugly
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: things would have gotten around here if the D backs
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: had moved on From suarez and he went on to another. Organization,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: basically some team you, know picked him up for next
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: to nothing financially and had him go off the way
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: that he has here over the last calendar. Years you,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: said it has been unbelievable to.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: WATCH i would have been have the stomach. THAT i
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: don't think, anyway would he was the same.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: GUY i, mean you were in the club with us, Too,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: jesse and you, know even the first half of last
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: year when he was struggling so, MUCH i, mean he
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: never acted like. That he never moped around the. Clubhouse
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: he never acted like a guy that was. Struggling he'd
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: walk in the clubhouse and shout out to teammates and
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: shout out to media, members and you, know his movements were.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: BIG i mean like he just everything he did was, like,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: yeah life is, great, man you know the Whole i'm
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: lucky to be. Here very few people personified that more Than.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Gino gino finished With he's at least right now having
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the best season of his. Career HIS wrc plus in
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five is one forty, three and of course
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: he's doing that at the age of thirty. Four, so
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: as you, Said, jack we very much wish him all
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: the best In. Seattle i'm Sure mariners fans are stoked
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: to have him. Back be very, funny you, know tuning
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Into mariner's games and seeing Both Josh naylor And Gino
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Suarez it kind of makes me think in, Retrospect, jack,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: like what would the package deal have looked like if
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: the D bacs had just traded Both gino And Josh
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: naylor on the front, End you, know what would the
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: return have look? Like then maybe they could have tapped
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: into The mariner's top one hundred. List it's kind of
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: a moot. Point now we won't go, there but you,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: know just an interesting thing now that's running through my.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Mind, Yeah mike addressed that, Too he felt like he
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: would do better splitting the guys.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Up, yeah you, know, SO i mean that's.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Hard to say if that's absolutely. TRUE i, mean maybe
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: they had those discussions and, okay take them, both you,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: know give me your number two or three guy or,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: whatever you, know and that was off the table For Jerry,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: depoto so they went in a different.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Direction, Well i'll be very curious to see What Mike
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: hazen says about this. Move we expect that he will
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: speak to the media at some, point probably not, tonight
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: given that it's after ten THIRTY pm here In. Arizona
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: maybe sometime tomorrow. Morning maybe we wind up waiting until
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: when the trade DEADLINE ruckus is over and we hear
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: his comments tomorrow afternoon on all of the deals that
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: the D backs have made at that, point AND i
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: think that's maybe a good place for us to finish.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Here.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Jack it feels like a lot's gonna happen. TOMORROW i
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: reference The gambo tweet. EARLIER i, maybe you, know maybe
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: it's not Just Zach gallon And Merrill kelly that he's referring.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: To maybe there's A jake McCarthy trade in the. Works
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: we know The astros have had some reported interests, there
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: and who knows what else could be. Happening the D
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: backs are interested on the by side as well in
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: acquiring a controllable. Reliever that's Something Mike haysen has talked about.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Recently so you, know maybe the team even brings in
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: some real major league ready, talented a name that people
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: are familiar, with in more of a bye type of.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Trade so anything is anything is possible, Here.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Jack, Yeah so, tomorrow, folks you, know come on. Back
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: we will be here tomorrow after the trade deadline, ends
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: and you, know we're gonna wait until the last train
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: age trickle in and then see if we get to
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: talk To. MIKE i think if we get to talk To.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Mike we'll be able to bring a little bit more
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: to you guys than, just you, know speculation about what
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: the team was. Thinking we'll try to get it direct
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: from the horse's mouth why they made the moves that they,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: did and we'll bring all of that to you tomorrow for.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Sure AND i don't, know maybe if the D backs
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: did something like early in the day, tomorrow maybe we
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: would go live separately and react to that as. Well
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: but who, knows you, know maybe all these deals wait
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: until The maybe they're all buzzer beaters and we don't
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: really get much More dbacks news until past three. Pm
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: even we've seen that happen in years. Past so As jack,
• 43:40
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• 44:12
  Speaker 1: for all of his, Analysis, jack do you have something
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: to add?
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Here, NO i just got a little bit more scouting
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: and report. Information, okay we'll revisit it. Tomorrow, Okay, okay
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: good go, On, so of, course you know we're all
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: doing the same. Thing phone goes, off you gotta.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Check, Yeah i've never been more glued to my cell
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: phone than the twenty four hours leading up to the trade.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: DEADLINE i think IT'S i think it's. Unhealthy but life
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: will return to normal tomorrow, night so we look forward to.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: That all, right, everybody have a good.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Evening, yeah thank you again all for being. Here we
• 44:46
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• 44:49
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• 44:52
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