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S7 283. Sylvia McKelvey - Unveiling UFOs, Orbs, and Biblical Perspectives · Millennial Mustard Seed

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That's tough. We're in a very tough spot.
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I think that what we're doing right now is a great benefit and
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virtue because it's an end around between this whole
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corrupt informational system, media system.
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We claim to believe in a God who spoke the universe into
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existence and literally raised himself from the dead, and yet
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we are not going to believe that anything else exists in the
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spirit realm, even though His word tells us that they do.
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Their bodies weren't permitted to go to sleep like humans do,
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and they weren't permitted to go to heaven.
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So they wander the earth. You know, I've seen the eyes
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turn black to unknown tongues being spoken.
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These giants would look way up in the Highlands.
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The young Braves, the young men would hide them in the trees and
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wait for one of these 12 footers to come walking down the path
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and they would jump on them and kill them, drag them back to the
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village, and the village would feast on the body.
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Then people start to get weapons, they start to get
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armor, they start to build cities, they start to fortify
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their cities. Now God looks down and there's
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violence everywhere. The battle, this war that we are
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at, is not against each other. It's against these
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principalities and these rulers and these archons in the high
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places. It's really worthwhile to read
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the Bible yourself. Fear.
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Is one of the. Primary drivers of mind control
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because we have to take. Every thought.
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Captive and resist fear. You're going to have a testimony
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that is a justice case against the Kingdom of darkness.
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What's up guys? Welcome back to the MMSI got a
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dope episode for you. I'm joined by Sylvia Mckelvey.
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Hopefully I'm saying her last name correctly.
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We have a powerful conversation, man.
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I got to give a shout out to my buddy Scott Mitchell over at the
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Bible Mysteries podcast. I was chatting with him and he
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was like, yo, I got somebody I think you should have a
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conversation with. One thing led to another.
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I had like, I think one or two phone conversations with Sylvia.
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I'm like, you got to come on the podcast.
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We got to talk about this. It's a really thought provoking
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episode. She shares some extensive
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background investigation from her time at MUFON Mutual UFO
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Network. We talk about orbs paranormal
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phenomenon through a biblical lens and we discover how these
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encounters and sightings align with biblical prophecy and what
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believers should understand about the spiritual realm and
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all the things that's going on today.
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Guys, she shares some of her personal journeys from, you
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know, being a Petty Officer in, in the United States military.
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She, she, she did some nursing. She was a part of Desert Storm,
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phenomenal experiences that Sylvia's had and and what we end
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up getting into aligns with biblical prophecy and the great
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deception. This is more of an introductory
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episode. We don't get super deep on any
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one topic. We jump around a little bit.
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I definitely was feeling under the weather.
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I thugged it out for this episode and and didn't cancel,
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but I was losing my voice. So I do apologize as you can
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probably hear right now, still recovering a bit a few days
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later as I record this intro, but I wanted to get this episode
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out to you guys. You know, there, there's a lot
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of common patterns and shapes and sightings and, and even the
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acronyms like UAP and the underwater submersible
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phenomenons. There's, there's all this
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language and stuff going on in the public square.
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And a person like Sylvia, she really brings a lot to the
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table. So with this introductory
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conversation, you guys are going to get some gems and look
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forward to a Part 2 because she's going to be coming back in
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the near future. Yeah, we're, we're going to
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start a miniseries. She's written a few different
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books. I should be able to get a couple
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links in the details of the show notes to her books.
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First one, Storm on the Horizon, New Age UFOs on the Cosmic
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Christ, and this I believe this second title.
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I'm about to read us our brand new book Into the Storm, UFOs,
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the Paranormal and the Unseen Battle for Planet Earth.
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Yes, that is book #2 that just released recently.
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I know Sylvia is sending 2 copies to me currently so I can
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get get some reading in whenever I have time.
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Like any of us actually have extra time to read?
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My God someone please help. But the idea is that this is the
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beginning of a mini series. I really hope that you guys
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enjoy this episode as much as I enjoyed being a part of
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recording it. Like, share, subscribe, all the
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fun stuff. You can find details on the show
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notes for all the things. Really appreciate you guys for
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listening, sharing, leaving the reviews.
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It means a lot. Makes a difference.
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Help me beat the algorithms. Hey, if you haven't left me a
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Leave me 5 stars if you feel that I'm worthy of five stars.
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Blessings you guys. Nothing but love.
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Let's get right into this episode with Sylvia.
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My name is Sylvia Mckelvey, welcoming everyone to the
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Millennial Mustard Seed podcast. Sylvia, it is great to be here
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with you. As we were just talking and
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before we prayed a few minutes ago, I told you I'm kind of
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thugging it out tonight. I'm under the weather, but we
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had this thing scheduled and I wanted to push through and get
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and get this conversation captured.
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I'm so honored. Thank you for being here.
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Oh, thanks for having me. And you're such a trooper here
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to hang in there so. Something's going around, you
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know, and I got young in. So they touch everything and
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then they just sneeze right on my my food and on my face as
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they're climbing all over me and sometimes.
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It just of course. Well, you know, we, we have a
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topic in mind and this is an introductory.
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This is your first time here on the MMS and it's it, Like I
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said, it's great to get connected with you.
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So I'll just kind of start off with giving you the floor.
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Tell us a little bit about yourself.
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You know, I'd like to get your bio, your background, anything
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testimonial, and then we'll jump into a couple questions I have
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for this Part 1. Yeah sure, I will just say that
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I was born in Minneapolis, MN. Won't say how many years, but
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that's my hometown home stage. I was raised in a Christian
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home, so I don't really have a significance with saying when I
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came to Christ, I just always grew up knowing about Jesus and
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our Lord. So that to me was a special
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benefit of having parents that were dutiful that way.
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In fact, my father was Sunday school Superintendent.
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So you know, we were pretty regularly there in in Sunday
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school and church. Of course, when you're young,
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you're kind of frustrated, like why do I have to learn this?
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But as an adult, I look back now and I feel so grateful that I
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have that resource and that education.
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So it's been very helpful. And as you know, I have written
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two books. The first one released, released
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around 2019. It was titled Storm on the
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Horizon, The New Age UFOs in the Cosmic Christ.
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Very interesting title that comes from a Christian point of
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view. And then just as last week, my
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second book has been released and it is called Into the Storm
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UFO with the paranormal and the Unseen Battle for Planet Earth.
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Another interesting title. But in saying that, just to let
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you know that I've had a background, my my career has
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been basically nursing and up until the time that I got
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married to my wonderful husband of 30 years and kind of changed
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course here a little bit. I have been a corpsman in the
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United States Naval Reserve and was on active duty during Desert
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Storm. That's kind of an aside there,
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but it also the reason for a lot of what I have written about it
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comes from my experience as a MUFON investigator.
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And I had actually been with MUFON about 8 years and five
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years of that was in the field investigator.
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So there's been a, a very interesting trail of information
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here that, you know, for me personally, when I started
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actually looking into some of these topics, I was working with
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a couple other Christian researchers and they were
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writing books and we were investigating at the time what
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was just starting to bubble up to the surface was the New Age
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movement. So that's kind of where I
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thought my start in this. And it was interesting to me
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because just from that very start with the New Age movement,
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it just LED right into the UFO topics.
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And it's something that really has merged together.
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And today you'll see a lot of that significance if you go to
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any of these meetings. There's always something about
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the aliens and the space brothers and waiting for them to
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come back and we want to welcome them to Earth.
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And it's very much a topic. So yeah, in a nutshell, that
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kind of tells you where I'm, where I'm at, at them.
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I guess what you say real time today that's.
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Awesome. So just for, you know, the new
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listeners or people that might not know what MUFON is, can you
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just explain a little bit about what that acronym stands for?
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And then tell me a little bit about, you know, some
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experiences, your time at MUFON and if there's anything also
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when you were in service for the country, if there's anything
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you'd like to talk about their floors.
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Wide open. Yeah.
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Well, first of all, I'll start with MUFON and that's the
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acronym for Mutual UFO Network, and this is based, I think it
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began in 1969 and it is a site you can actually go to now.
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They have a really good website that'll allow you to make a
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report, post or picture or give them any further information.
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But at the time, that was really only the resource people had to
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go to regarding the topic of UFOs.
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So it was set up nationally. So each state and district had
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representatives and investigators, and I was able to
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be a state section director here in Northern California.
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So it's a very well run organization, but it's it's been
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one that we've had to start from ground and work up with the all
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of the information has come in. And I can tell you just starting
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way back then for me it was in the 90s that this information
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has continued to increase and grow in reports and sightings
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and experiences that we hadn't seen at the very beginning.
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So there's something very much going on here and it's getting
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more frequent. As far as my military service, I
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was assigned to a naval station Air Station for P3 Orion.
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So that was basic my my service there for the year.
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Fortunately during Desert Storm, it ended before my unit would be
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transferred out to Bahrain and we were to be on the Mercy
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Hospital ship. So I think we we made out OK on
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that one. So I have mine is never anything
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that I can compare with anybody. It's been over their boots on
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the ground. So I really appreciate those
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people and their service. So where would you like to go
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from here? Do you want me to talk more
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about the cases or? Yeah.
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I mean, you know, we were on the phone the other day and we're
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just having an excellent conversation in regards to all
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of this information from a biblical worldview, right.
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And with MUFON, I actually did have a guy on a couple years
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ago. I did like a swap cast with I
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think his name was Nathan possibly, but he was like a, you
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know, vice president of a chapter of MUFON in Canada.
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I forget his name, but that, that it was probably like 150
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episodes ago. And I remember asking some
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questions like, you know, with your, your all of the research,
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right? Like are you seeing any
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commonalities or a template? You know, are you seeing any
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patterns within the reporting? You know, so I guess one of the
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things that I really wanted to ask is did the orbs show up in
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your investigating? And like, while you were at
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MUFON, was there ever did it challenge your faith?
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Like we were talking the other day like that we hold a biblical
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worldview. We have no issues going as deep
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as you possibly can go down the rabbit trail of weird and always
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steering it back to the Lord Jesus, right?
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Because he's the King of kings. He's above all of this stuff.
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But in today's day and age, there is a bit of a gap between
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Christians having a healthy dialogue or even healthy
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thoughts about how to deal with some of this, quote UN quote,
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fringe information. So messy question, but I guess
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what I'll really ask is your time at MUFON.
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What patterns were you seeing? Talk about a couple stories that
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might have been the most compelling.
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OK. I'm happy to get into some of
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that for you. I will say though, for MUFON,
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it's been an organization. Obviously it's not a solid
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Christian organization. Investigators come from all
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different religions and walks of life.
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So for me personally, learning about these sightings and
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talking to people, it really did not challenge my faith as a
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Christian. In fact, if anything, it
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encouraged me and the fact that we've gotten a pretty much a
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head stuff with our Bible that we know these types of things
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exist when you're talking about the paranormal or spiritual
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realm. So to see that translated maybe
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into something more modern like UFOs or these aliens to me is
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part of that. So should they land tomorrow, it
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would not diminish my faith one bit.
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Now that may be a problem for others, maybe other Christians
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who are not so informed about this or they're weak in faith
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that that could certainly challenge them, no doubt
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something that remarkable. But for me personally, no, it,
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it would not affect my faith. And you do run across people
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from new age and, and different religions when you're doing
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interviews with people, you know, you it, unfortunately,
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it's a, it's a, the spot for a lot of information, but it's
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also a, you know, kind of a, a dwelling where other people such
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as delusional types can find a, a happy home.
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And you do run across that also, for example, I did have one very
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well meaning lady tell me she was pregnant with a litter of
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alien babies. So I mean, you know, where do
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you go with that? But for the most part, people
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are very, very sincere in what they're they're talking about.
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I mean, the fact that they they wanted to contact somebody and
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give that information is usually a good, good barometer for that,
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I suppose for some kind of outstanding ones.
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We did have a lot of sightings in the Bay Area about triangles
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of various sizes and colors, black, white.
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It seems like the 90s there was a kind of a a flurry of triangle
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sightings. So I'm not sure why that was
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specific to triangles, but at least in this area here we were
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hearing a lot about it. That and disk, your typical
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disk. And this is things from people
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I've talked to that have seen a disk and it could be something
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just simple as looking up in the sky and see this disk overhead.
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You know, a lot of times there's nothing really dramatic about
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it, which also is kind of a caution though, when you think
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about at the same time these sightings were happening, their
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cattle mutilations were in full swing as well.
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And we had even here on the West Coast several incidences of
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cattle mutilations. So, and as far as maybe the the
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the proof positive and the most outstanding report on UFOs, I
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will have to say was my own. And this had to deal with my
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husband and I actually always coming back from taking someone
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else's report about black helicopters flying in the
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mountains. But very interesting.
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And it was like 11:00 in the morning.
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We were driving back on a very busy road 152 going from the San
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Joaquin Valley over to the Bay Area in California, and happened
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to look up and see these orbs clustered like grapes coming
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down from this beautifully clear blue sky.
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And immediately I yelled at my husband to pull over.
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We did. Nobody else did, interestingly
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enough. But he got out and I was staring
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out the side of the window of my on the passenger side.
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And we, we watched them come down just kind of separate, get
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in a straight line, like you see a string of pearls kind of go
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back and forth in a rhythmic motion.
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And then they would rotate around each other.
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And we just stood there staring at this.
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They had come down quite low as far As for us to be able to see
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that much about them. But then again, you're talking
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about whatever they are. It seems as though it be
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encompassed in a mist or some kind of I don't even know if it
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would be plasma, but it's something cloud like that they
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seem to inhabit. So we we were watching this
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until at 1.1 came whipping around behind the others and
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then it did a poof poof type maneuver where you saw these
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like little puffs of clouds. And in the middle of that was
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glowing very bright amber, like a orb, just very, very bright.
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And that faded away. And whatever that was came out
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of the the mist and came directly towards us.
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So at that point you're kind of wondering, OK, am I going to be
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a statistic or am I going to have a story to tell?
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Because it did come directly towards us.
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It made slow movements until it was directly over our car.
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And again, you could see very clearly the swirling.
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I guess plasma is probably a good description of it by just
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looking up, but you could not see any solid form that you
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could describe. It in one of the pictures I
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actually was able to get 2 pictures off showing the group
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and one showing this object and it was somewhat bell shaped in
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the cloud but as far as being able to see it clearly from
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underneath it, it just wasn't possible.
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So my husband, who was standing outside, though, said that he
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watched it take off, which was a vantage point that I did not
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have. And he said it looks somewhat
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like an amoeba with a tail. Now, I didn't see that.
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I can't confirm it, but I do believe him.
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But it just goes back to the high strangeness often
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associated with a lot of these UFO sightings.
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And it was at that time that they began to move off.
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About an hour later, we had stopped in town to get of IT and
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try to collect ourselves. Having experienced that now, I
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want you to know we did not have any missing time.
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We didn't feel threatened at all.
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It was interesting to me that with that swirling plasmic mist
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that you could see, it was generating waves off of it, like
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you'd see on a hot day, something coming off of your
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asphalt on the road. It was that WAVY distortion of
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stuff, but you couldn't feel any heat coming off of it.
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Yeah, it was. But going back to after we
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stopped for our lunch at that point, got back on the road and
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we were driving up into the hills now, just over to where we
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would break off to go to San Jose and these cities there.
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And we saw them again. And this time there's a group
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from Cluster Together and we caught sight of it just going up
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on the other side of this hill. And it was at that time when I
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looked up and could see this commercial airliner coming in
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and it was on approach to get San Jose International most
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obviously, I think. And what I saw from there was
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extremely interesting is that at the back tail section of that
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plane were two orbs and they were bouncing up and down behind
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the tail section added it was a distance away where it it
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wouldn't really be touching the, the plane, but it was there and
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it was reminded me of dolphins to some respect for how they
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they bow surf on waves. It almost seems like they were
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riding the jetstream. So, I mean, after that we just
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went out and tried to write this up and of course we submitted
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our story to move on and with our information and documents.
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But orbs at that point seemed to be heightening.
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And I told my husband, you know, thinking over this, he we want
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to associate it. Was it a craft?
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And I could not say it was a craft.
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To me, it was something that was a living thing, biomechanical at
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least something to that effect. It did not behave in any way
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like what you would call a spacecraft.
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So we kind of had to shelve that one.
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And then I got another request for an interview for a gentleman
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over in the Valley again who had seen orbs.
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So he had a similar situation where they were in his
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neighborhood. Then we saw about 12 and they
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saw about 12 as well. So I don't know why there was a
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heightened incidents of orb sightings, but they were being
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pretty prevalent at that time. So and it's something we see
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today also in many of the sightings, the majority today
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seem to be orb sightings or bright lights or orange colored
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orbs lights various sizes and distance of course.
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So it's an interesting thing more so than saying people are
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reporting in landings, not so much these days, but they are
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reporting the the orbs. And interestingly enough, these
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orbs, I don't know if they're the same, but certainly orbs
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have been seen during times of crisis.
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They've been photographed and videotaped in times of floods.
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Time. Did you hold on?
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Did you say times of floods? Floods, Wars.
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Interesting. During our fires here in
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California, there was some orbs photographed somebody studying
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the let me. Say this real quick.
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I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but there's, there's so
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many things going through my mind right now.
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Personally, I've dealt with the orbs.
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So I kind of want to dive into the orbs a little bit.
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Yeah, I've got, I got a little bit of footage on my cell phone
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and then on our old video or video cameras from our old place
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that we used to live. Right.
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And at the time I like, I don't know, I try not to make
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judgements based on everything I hear, but I try to like look at
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it through the lens of my experience, right?
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And in this case, I, I've had numerous experiences with the
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orbs. And then I'm like, where Oh my
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gosh, like, why is this so weird?
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And, and I do hear quite an association of the orbs kind of
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going hand in hand with like Bigfoot encounters or Cryptid
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encounters or even the supernatural, the hypernatural
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like hat man, right? And ghosts in the house and
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things like that. So let's just kind of slow down
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a minute and get back to the orb thing.
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Describe what you saw again. And then is whatever that you
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saw, is that common among the MUFONTE reports?
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Let's start there. Yeah, very interesting.
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I will say though, in my first book, Storm on the Horizon, I
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have a whole chapter on the orbs and this is this book is more
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detail about the new age movement, UFO orbs, all of these
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things that people have a lot of questions about.
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So that's more detailed. The new one that came out, I go
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back into the orbs is how they have translated and what they're
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doing today. Even so it's kind of I pick up
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where I left off on the last one.
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So if you really want an inside a deep dive on it, the first
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book probably would be a good place to start.
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But it's interesting, the number one thing that has been
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reported, whether it be a paranormal ghost encounter,
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poltergeist encounter or UFO, seems to be orbs.
26:55
Now, there's also been talks of people, Jeremy, Jeremy Corbel, I
27:01
think, had a report from a pilot, one of our fighter pilots
27:06
who came upon one of these orbs. And of course, these are what
27:09
they were seeing over there on the East Coast and on the West
27:12
Coast here around San Diego. But if there was a very, very
27:16
interesting observation made by one of the pilots.
27:21
And he said that it looked like this orb had a skin to it and
27:25
that the skin was undulating. Now that's becoming more and
27:31
more of a common report as well. So it's to me again, it goes
27:35
back to, is this a living thing? You know, how do we classify
27:39
this? But he said Jeremy Corbell, that
27:43
is that the number one report that he gives is about orbs.
27:50
Now you can look at orbs as the energy sources.
27:54
Just what are they? People have seen them obviously
27:58
with the UFOs, but they've also seen them in their homes.
28:01
When you talk about paranormal encounters, maybe even
28:04
hauntings, it's a very prevalent thing to have orbs being
28:09
sighted, different colours of them, but it just seems to show
28:14
up with something that is related to the supernatural or
28:18
some kind of paranormal event. Well, so.
28:22
Real quick, what are the color like?
28:24
So is there any colors in particular that show up?
28:27
Like like for example, I've seen a bluish kind of purple one in
28:31
one experience, all the other one.
28:33
It's so weird because there's other times I never associated a
28:37
color at all. It it's like an off white or
28:40
like a misty kind of cloudy white and they were pulsating.
28:44
So like, I'm curious when you're saying, hey, there's different
28:48
colors reported, what's your take or even some antidotical or
28:52
maybe even researched information that would lend
28:55
like, hey, the blue ones are friendly.
28:57
The red ones are like, what do we do with this?
29:00
Like help me understand. Yeah, it's yeah, blue.
29:03
Blue is one of the colors, and unfortunately it doesn't seem to
29:07
be the friendly ones. There is a situation where a
29:11
woman had encountered one and she wanted to reach out to touch
29:14
it and she heard this voice come from it says do not touch or you
29:19
will die. So I don't know, was that just a
29:22
warning for her safety or was that a threat?
29:25
You know, but that was been incidences where people run into
29:30
I guess kind of bad mooded blue orbs, but they they are a thing.
29:37
The number one color that people see are is orange or golden
29:42
color, but most often reported as orange.
29:47
There's white, of course, but those three colors, I would say
29:51
the white, the orange and the blue are the primary ones that
29:54
you're going to hear about. And that's true also for people
29:57
that have seen these in their homes.
30:00
I write about a family that had orbs in their home that kind of
30:06
transformed into different types of beans.
30:09
So, you know, there's something within the energy part of that
30:13
that allows it to transform into something else.
30:16
Now, I don't know the the mechanical essence of them or
30:20
the scientific background of what would make up something
30:24
like an orb, but they can shape shift, they can turn into other
30:29
things. Interestingly enough, if you're
30:32
aware of Kenneth Arnold who started the flying saucer phrase
30:37
from the sighting he had of eight objects in Washington
30:40
state back in 1947. And this gentleman, everybody
30:48
you know says he's a pilot, he had the sightings and we kind of
30:51
associate him with starting off this whole thing.
30:54
But he if you agreed about his life personally had encounters
30:59
with orbs in his home and he got to think that these were beings
31:04
possibly aliens that were they had come to to watch him or keep
31:10
tabs on him. It's kind of a a strange story,
31:12
but this was verified by his daughter in in a interview a few
31:16
years ago. So they kind of, This is why in
31:20
the second book I wanted to show the paranormal aspect of how it
31:23
coincides and go along with a lot of things that we would say
31:29
scientific and which is now interesting too, that science is
31:34
now saying, well, there has to be more to this.
31:37
It might be interdimensional because science doesn't explain
31:42
it. The supernatural is but science
31:45
can't come to any solid answer to it.
31:51
I'm, I'm sure you probably heard, you know, just recently
31:54
we, we talked about this, how President Trump now has said
31:57
that, you know, once all of the, the files released on UFOs at
32:03
the same time, Anna, a congresswoman from Florida, Anna
32:06
Paulina Luna has been on the talk surface circuit saying that
32:11
she believes that these are interdimensional beings also.
32:16
And that the information that she has seen in the skiff or
32:20
somewhere obviously not open to the public was something that
32:25
she'd have to say was not made by humans.
32:28
Not I'd love to know what that is.
32:30
But that was her take on it and she is very adamant about that
32:35
part. So we're looking at something
32:37
very interesting right now in our current times.
32:42
Well, and and that's what I asked you the other day on the
32:43
phone, but with the kind of I would, I would say that's beyond
32:50
disclosure, right? Like that's not even a soft
32:52
disclosure. And you know, shout out to LA
32:54
Marzoli, the rungs of Disclosure you.
32:56
Know he's. Yeah, very well respected in
33:00
this this kind of fringe Christian space.
33:02
I hate to use the word fringe, but because it is becoming more
33:05
popular in the town square, but one of the things that.
33:08
Go fringe. Yeah, it's like, it's crazy
33:11
because I think it's the norm. I think having this supernatural
33:14
biblical worldview, a lot of people don't like that word
33:17
supernatural. But unfortunately there's a
33:20
language war. And a lot of the times we're
33:22
trying to like parse it out and figure it out because most of us
33:25
are saying the same thing, but not everybody is worshipping the
33:29
same cod. And that's that's where things
33:32
get very interesting in this space because the, you know, the
33:35
orbs and and the lower gate lowercase G gods, along with the
33:40
the pantheon of the ancients, right.
33:43
There's there's so much association and over lap in this
33:47
space. Oh, yeah, That's what I was
33:49
going to say. We were when we were on the
33:50
phone the other day. I asked you, well, do you think
33:53
that, you know, Trump is now coming out and kind of talking
33:56
about, hey, I'm going to release all these documents associated
34:00
with UFOUAP because the Epstein files are out?
34:05
Like, is so is something higher than Trump forcing his hand to
34:10
maybe play into this bigger deceptive narrative?
34:13
Because, I mean, I've thought about it both ways.
34:16
Like is it just opportune time because the whole world seems
34:19
weird now and it's OK to be weird.
34:22
Where five years ago when I was doing this podcast, there was a
34:27
lot of kind of, I was getting boxed out like, oh, don't talk
34:30
about that. Oh, that's silly.
34:31
Oh, you're immature. Oh, you're too imaginative.
34:34
I've heard everything in the book.
34:36
Certain things I won't even recite because it would just not
34:39
be good for the listeners ears. I'd have to do it, you know,
34:43
disclaimer, but I heard a little bit of everything.
34:45
Now everybody and their mother and grandmother is talking about
34:48
this stuff and it's like, how the heck did we get here?
34:51
So I guess what I'm going to ask is what is your take on, you
34:55
know, this upper echelon or these these higher entities kind
34:58
of controlling the narrative and maybe guys like Trump are kind
35:03
of just playing their part. Yeah, it almost seems like he's
35:08
doing someone a favor. But I will tell you right up
35:12
front that for the majority of researchers out there, and I
35:15
think LA probably is among them also, the release of information
35:20
for a lot of us is we feel is going to be a nothing burger.
35:25
They're not going to get down to the nitty gritty of what these
35:28
things are because it's so well protected.
35:31
We got, oh, years ago, we got a report from the Air Force Blue
35:36
Book which came out. Everybody was excited what we
35:39
all read about that and it basically talks about the 144
35:44
cases that they had of which only one was identifiable as a
35:51
course pesky balloon and the others were unidentifiable.
35:56
They didn't have an answer for them.
35:57
So there was 143 out of 144 they couldn't account for.
36:02
But still that just kind of dropped and nothing more was
36:06
said about it. So I think the same thing
36:09
probably is going to happen on this because as we discussed, I
36:13
don't believe we are the ones in charge of this.
36:17
If we are dealing with the supernatural, which you know,
36:21
when you think about Christianity, our, our faith,
36:24
our religion is based on the supernatural.
36:28
And so we should acknowledge that.
36:30
So this shouldn't be something that that necessarily effects
36:34
our faith, but if anything, perhaps it'll be more
36:38
encouraging. But I, I think that we're going
36:42
to see probably not too much said because like I said to you,
36:47
I think that there is the, the people behind the scene.
36:52
And I think you hear a lot more people who are in the know are
36:56
talking about this more that it's, it's not up to the
37:00
military necessarily that a lot of them think that much of this
37:04
information now is in the hands of unelected individuals,
37:08
unelected officials that are kind of the people behind
37:12
keeping this information at Bay. And then my theory about it is
37:18
if we are in fact dealing with something that is supernatural,
37:22
non human, then if this could be something, if it decides to
37:27
present itself, that could tie in very much with what we've
37:32
talked about biblically and end times.
37:35
Now, I will say I don't believe that these are aliens from
37:39
another planet. I believe these are the the
37:43
entities that have been here since the Garden and they most
37:48
likely have an agenda there. We know for a fact that many of
37:52
them can look very much like us. So if you carried that that
37:57
thought further, it would come down to the fact that do we want
38:00
disclosures from our government of maybe the government really
38:06
has no say in that. If these entities are there,
38:09
then maybe they're the ones making the decisions whether or
38:13
not they want to be disclosed. So it it could very well be
38:17
something of that order where we're not in charge when it
38:20
comes down to it. But you know, the other thing
38:23
about and what I I told you also when we were talking about this,
38:26
is that there's so much talk about, Oh yeah, we're going to,
38:30
we're going to find out about the aliens.
38:32
You know, you have the ancient alien series where pretty much
38:35
have said, Oh yeah, there are creators and they're going to
38:38
come back because the ancient texts promised that they would.
38:42
And you have people that ever are solely violent, certainly
38:46
buying into that perspective, which it just kind of sets us up
38:51
for some type of, shall we say, it's strong delusion.
38:57
So it, it's, it's very, very interesting Times Now.
39:01
So, but the thing that I, I wanted to point out about that
39:05
just briefly is that in doing so, we hear even other Christian
39:10
reporters even sometimes I hear that's where they're talking
39:13
about. Well, you know, we might
39:16
consider maybe they come from another planet.
39:18
This is the big universe. And so and so and so and so it
39:21
gets into a big debate. But the one thing I think
39:25
everybody is missing in this is that unfortunately, I think they
39:29
they sometimes treat God as a disinterested third party.
39:33
And we have to include human our thinking.
39:36
Obviously, he's fully aware of what's going on here.
39:39
He's fully aware of these entities and what their plans
39:42
might be. And he certainly has told us in
39:44
the Bible what he intends to do about it.
39:47
So I think it's something that, you know, may, May, may come to
39:52
pass, but we have to know that God is there also with his plan.
39:56
So we should keep that in mind. And the thing I think like you
40:02
were talking about is that so many churches these days are not
40:05
discussing end time scenarios. They're not discussing what's
40:09
happening with things like the UFOs or even the alien topic.
40:13
It gets poo pooed. But this could be the shock to
40:17
the system on this planet if something like this happened.
40:21
Exactly. And you know the like you
40:24
mentioned the other day on the phone that the restrainer is
40:27
restraining? Exactly.
40:29
Yeah. I mean, there's so many moving
40:31
parts here. You know, I'm thinking about if
40:37
these entities are limited to interdimensionality, if if
40:42
they're just in a different dimension.
40:43
Like for me, I have 0 issues with any of this everything that
40:47
we're talking like people in this show know you fit in
40:50
perfectly here with this audience because we've been
40:53
thinking that, that the out loud, we've been talking out
40:56
loud about what people have thought about secretly for too
40:59
many years, right? There has to be a voice crying
41:01
out saying, hey, God is still in control.
41:06
And I love how you said just a couple minutes ago that like God
41:08
is not surprised by any of this. It it's fully that, you know,
41:12
for those who have gotten disclosure from the Holy Spirit,
41:17
I think there's a lot more freedom and power for them to
41:20
move in versus people that are contingent on the government
41:24
saying it's real or not. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
41:30
Yeah, you won't comment to any of that and then I'll start
41:33
asking some more questions. I feel like you're on a bit of a
41:36
role and my voice is failing me so.
41:40
I'm trying to help you out here. My statement I got to pass it
41:42
back to you but had something really good to say.
41:45
Well, if you think about it, interrupt me, please.
41:48
But yeah, I think we're going to probably see so much of that.
41:54
I mean, having done this for so many years, you know, everybody
41:57
all gets excited when they say, well, we're going to find out.
42:00
They're going to give us files, we're going to see you
42:02
everything that's been hidden away.
42:05
And I, I really don't believe that.
42:07
Because if you have something that's spectacular and if it is
42:11
a national security issue, like maybe there is back engineering
42:15
of craft, the last thing you want to do I'm sure is announce
42:18
that to the public and especially let enemies of this
42:22
country know about what you have as well.
42:24
So I think it's going to be a very, very guarded issue.
42:30
I think also that because of it being so sensitive, that there
42:37
is going to probably be a lot of things that are handled by
42:41
different agencies. So it would be nice if we could
42:44
go and say the Pentagon has all this information, they've got it
42:47
in their files, and they're just not giving it to us.
42:50
But I don't believe that that's the case.
42:53
Obviously it's been, I think sectioned off, so certain
42:58
agencies are covering certain parts of it, which to me kind of
43:02
seems like a security issue as well.
43:05
Yeah. And so does that have any
43:07
connection with like the UAP and, and how about the
43:11
underwater craft, right? There's like different acronyms
43:16
that are coming out. So like, obviously all of us
43:18
grew up and it was UFO unidentified flying objects,
43:23
right. And there's all these, you know,
43:25
farmers and city folk and every color, every religion would have
43:28
a story associated with the UFO encounters, first, second,
43:32
third, 4th and 5th kind. And now we see this new language
43:36
within the congressional hearings that have been taking
43:39
place for the last couple years. And now we hear UAP, which
43:43
really just means Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon.
43:48
Well, they've kind of changed that also now to an unidentified
43:51
anomalous phenomena. And So what are they calling
43:55
the? The water related, I mean how
43:59
many acronyms are we dealing with now?
44:01
We're dealing with one on then that's USO's under an
44:06
identifier, submerged objects, and that has become really very,
44:13
very interesting as far as what's being said about them.
44:17
I listened to Congressman Tim Burchett from Tennessee, and he
44:22
just very offhandedly was talking about he feels that I, I
44:27
don't know who told him what, but he was saying just about
44:30
very forthright that there's five underwater bases that they
44:35
believe that the aliens are occupying.
44:37
And it makes sense. I mean, if you're going to
44:39
remain out of sight, certainly going down into the depths of
44:44
oceans where we cannot go would certainly be probably a good
44:49
choice. But the fact that it was such a
44:52
casual statement, it's, it's just kind of mind boggling.
44:57
But then again, I don't know if the the listeners had a chance
45:01
to see the age of disclosure documentary.
45:05
I think you can still rent it on Prime Video.
45:09
It might be available on other sources.
45:12
But there you see our leadership.
45:15
We have a Rear Admiral talking about the underwater UFOs.
45:19
He's talking about seeing something that that's huge,
45:24
maybe the size of three football fields going 200 miles an hour
45:27
under the water. It's something that we
45:30
absolutely cannot do with our technology, but he he was
45:35
bringing that out to the the public basically in this
45:38
documentary. And there were others that were
45:41
high up in, in government positions, CIA and military
45:46
pilots. It's a remarkable documentary.
45:50
And we have one gentleman that says, I have seen non human
45:54
craft and non human bodies. And I think he was formerly
45:59
associated with the the CIA. He had some really high
46:02
classification at one point. But to have somebody just, you
46:06
know, boldly state that it it has to to register like, whoa
46:11
there. There is something going on
46:13
here. And you know, we go back to the
46:16
restrainer. We were talking about that.
46:18
It's that you you have to think that, OK, if this I would say
46:25
evil entities basically are planning all this, then, you
46:30
know, they're probably trying to keep a low profile.
46:32
But you hear a lot of people, even these Congress people said,
46:36
well, if they're there, they have to be friendly or they
46:39
would have attacked us by now. And like we were talking about,
46:44
I disagree with that because of the restrainer that God has in
46:49
place. And they can't do anything until
46:51
the restrainer is taken out of the way.
46:53
Now that doesn't mean they can't contribute to all of this or
46:56
move things in their own direction.
46:58
But as far as the I think a full on appearance of them, I don't
47:03
believe that can happen until that restrainer is taken out of
47:06
the way. Yeah, that's, that's really
47:09
interesting. Yeah.
47:11
I mean, the Bible obviously being the highest order and
47:14
authority, you know, the ultimate truth as I like to say,
47:18
yes, I'm, I'm a Bible thumper, Bible nerd, right?
47:21
It's it's superlative for me. Bump.
47:25
On brother. Yeah, but it's difficult in this
47:28
space because you got 40,000 denominations and everybody has
47:31
an opinion all the sudden about who's what and where and when
47:34
and how stuff's going to go down.
47:36
And it's just crazy to know that the threads biblically already,
47:41
you know, God speaks the beginning from the end.
47:44
You know, there's, there's so much language that we could get
47:46
into biblically that just leads to the credibility of the view
47:49
that you're bringing to the table that I concur with this
47:52
great deception topic. Right, Why, why now, right.
47:57
You know, we, we could go down the road of talking about COVID
48:01
and, and you know, the systematic desensitization that
48:04
these upper echelon entities, the, the celestial Mafia gods,
48:07
if you will, have been presenting to us and staging us
48:11
and, and critiquing us and using many forms of manipulation and
48:17
familiar, getting us familiar with what they'd like in order
48:22
to maintain control. But I do believe that God is
48:24
breaking through, like, OK, so a great falling away because you
48:29
got so many people involved with Christianity just because it's a
48:32
title. Oh, my grandma was a pastor or a
48:35
believer. My grandfather was a pastor,
48:37
right? And you just see, it's just a
48:38
generational identity. So if a great disclosure would
48:41
come out for the sake of deceiving, then people are going
48:45
to throw the whole moral thing out the window.
48:47
Oh, God, it's not real. I can do whatever I want.
48:49
Holy crap, aliens. I can time travel, I can get
48:52
adna upgrade. I'm not going to die.
48:54
This is great. I've been watching stuff like
48:57
this in the movies for years, right?
48:59
And so this is but you have this remnant of believers like, like
49:04
yourself and I and many others out there that understand what
49:09
is happening and how important this time is to actually know
49:13
what the word says and to know that the even the elect would be
49:17
deceived if possible. It's going to be a good show.
49:21
It's going to be a great show. Let's talk about this from like
49:25
the deception perspective. How many people are in your
49:32
direct contact? Are you dealing with people that
49:34
are like, no, you're crazy. I don't believe what you're
49:37
saying. Are it or are you seeing the
49:39
opposite? A growing kind of curiosity, but
49:45
people having discernment in this space starting to grow
49:48
because you've been in, you've been in this, you know, kind of
49:50
fringe Christian space for quite some time.
49:53
Yeah, unfortunately it's still that you're crazy type of
49:57
attitude towards that. But even I think we're worse
50:00
than that is that it has been talked about for so long now.
50:05
I think that a lot of people are just apathetic about it.
50:09
You know, it's like, oh, OK, that's interesting.
50:11
Oh, yeah, They can tell us about the aliens.
50:13
We can take it. It would be great.
50:15
As if it's going to be the greatest scientific achievement
50:19
for mankind on this planet when they have no idea of what that
50:23
might entail. And I firmly believe that these
50:26
entities are not here for our benefit.
50:29
And the the reports that I have read and the things that people
50:33
have told me, one report in in particular, which I, I can't get
50:38
into their name or story, but it was something that was horrific.
50:42
It was not a pleasant encounter with these entities.
50:47
And I think if if nothing else, I think the the horrible cattle
50:52
mutilation and mutilations of our animals here on earth should
50:55
have been our first clue perhaps that there's not so benevolent
51:01
beings out there. Perhaps.
51:03
But I think that, you know, you can look at it how many ways
51:07
this could play out. You know, they may be aliens
51:11
will land. They look like us.
51:12
They're the Nordics. It seems to be the front runner
51:15
and who might show up. But they could say, you know,
51:18
you people don't understand. We we created you.
51:21
We are actually those gods. We don't need religion.
51:24
We've gone beyond that. Now we just have this Co
51:27
fellowship and basically they're they're going to run the show.
51:31
But it's still to me, after all, it has been said and done and
51:36
all of the information out there, the ancient aliens are
51:40
taking the lead in in misleading people into thinking that this
51:43
is a great thing and we should look forward to it.
51:47
Whereas you know as well as I do, there are certain churches
51:50
that will not touch the subject at all.
51:53
And that's when we we talk about the great falling away.
51:58
If you do not have yourself grounded in the word of God in
52:01
the Bible, you're going to fall. I really feel that way.
52:06
You're going to fall because you won't have that backbone that
52:10
you're going to need and that that security in in God and the
52:15
Holy Spirit. And that needs to be working
52:17
with all of us that I think that the self-reliance may be the one
52:23
thing that, you know, pushes everybody out of any kind of
52:26
religion. Well, that, that's another thing
52:30
that's interesting about the I, I, I've had Vicki Jo Anderson on
52:36
and Karen Wilkinson. They're they're actually
52:39
personal friends of mine. And you know, Karen has some of
52:41
the most compelling testimonies about abduction scenarios and
52:46
you know, the authority that a Christian has, but not just
52:49
because we're saying out this, you know, the name Jesus, like,
52:54
but who you're actually crying out to.
52:57
There's a difference between crying out to God and, you know,
53:00
saying, Lord, save me, protect me, help me versus just, you
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know, I maybe someone who doesn't believe at all, who just
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heard the name of Jesus and doesn't know that that name
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represents in English the name of the Messiah, the Lamb of God
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who came in the flesh. And so I think heart posture has
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a lot to do with it. So this great deception, a lot
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of people, you're right, Sylvia, they're they're just completely
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programmed and, and positioned for a great fall because
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they're, they're not really chasing after the Lord.
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They most of them have a form of godliness, but they deny the
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power. They don't study to show
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themselves well approved, right? And I believe that God is going
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to scoop people out of each one of these pockets.
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Just like I think that each denomination has genuine,
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heartfelt, raw believers in it. But it's going to, it's just
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going to be such a crazy time because a lot of it's going to
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go over the heads of most people.
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Like religion's not going to get it.
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The world's not going to understand it.
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You know, I've often said I'd rather help prepare a bride than
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be a part of the church club. I don't have an interest of
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being a part of the club. But if there's a bride right
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where it's like they're not afraid to look at the Bible and
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ask the questions and see the threads, you know, as the late
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Mike Heiser would say, you know, there's these theological
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threads, right? Genesis 315, Genesis 64.
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You have this Nephilim agenda non-stop, you know, competing
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for the, the land of milk and honey, for the your peace, for
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your position, for your, your life, your, the very breath that
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is in you. This is, it's, it's not hard for
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me to just completely agree with what you're saying.
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I can't even add to it. I, I would, I guess, move into
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the next question and just say, do you think that the this is
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the final coming great deception.
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Like when we're talking about the government revealing it?
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Or is it just the stage for them to, I don't know, maybe open up
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a, A Star Wars or Star Trek like relationship with these entity?
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Like how would they fake that and play that out?
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Do you think this very well could be the last straw before
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the end of the age? What are your thoughts there?
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Yeah. I mean, there, there's so much
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information that we have now that maybe we can look at it a
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little more closely. I do believe of judging from
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everything that's happened here, that this has to be the end
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times for us because there's just no way of countering this.
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Let's take it for example, the entities themselves, you know,
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if they come as gods and people receive them, then it's going to
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be a whole new world for planet Earth.
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But in the at the same time, I think mankind is is changing for
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the worst. When you talk about everything
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that's happening now with genetics and you know, you
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mentioned Nephilim, that we seem to be doing a good job of trying
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to create our own Nephilim these days.
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So you you have a situation where, you know, we're just kind
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of getting out of hand, trying to be gods their self.
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And at the same time it's like a three ring circus.
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You have the political going on, you have the social going on.
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Then you have the UFO says situation going on.
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But this is one of the questions I asked in my first book.
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What would it take to make the superpowers of our planet and
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every country lay down their weapons and comply?
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What could make that happen? It would be have to be a far
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superior force than what we have here.
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And that's, I think where the the alien part of it, the UFOs
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could play a very large part. And they're the ones that could
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have everybody else lay down arms because they they are the
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advanced culture. Yeah.
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And many times, like there's testimony of these entities or
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whatever they are disengaging. Our missiles are right, just
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just completely superseding our technical advances, at least
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what's made known in public. I know that the military is
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probably 20-30 years ahead of what we have public access to.
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But like you were saying with these orbs, like, you know,
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there's testimony of them looking like they have a, a
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living skin on them. Like, what do you do with that?
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You know, and then you freaked me out a little while back when
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you talked about the blue or purple ones not being so
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friendly. That's exactly what I
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encountered. Like it was not a good thing.
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It made all the hair of my body stand up.
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I was at the time, this is back in like 20.
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My God, this must be 2017 and I have an encounter in the middle
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of, of the night with one of these things.
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And it's just my, my youngest, my Adam, who's teething at the
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time, kept waking up all night long.
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I have work early in the morning.
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So I, I, I'm stressed out at this time.
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I'm like, I just need to go step outside and get some fresh air
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or else I'm going to scream, right?
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It's like one of those moments of life where it's like, I just
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need some sleep and I couldn't get it.
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Well, it's like 233 in the morning.
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I'm out in the driveway and I just look across the field and
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at this time we're, we're in Olie, Pennsylvania, which is
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farmland, you know, it's a good bit outside of Philadelphia.
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And I see an orb just hovering and floating through a field
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across across the the Creek. And as soon as I seen it, I was
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filled with fear and this thing shot and took off and it was
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like a, it was like almost a light blue or a purplish.
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And I can't really say it was one color or the other.
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It was just a strange color altogether.
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But I'm terrified. I I've run into the house and I
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pull my phone out and I'm just look, yeah, I was closing the
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door, locking the door behind me.
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And I'm looking on the on the screen of my phone is the
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scripture that says perfect love, cast out fear.
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And I ask God, well, what do I do with that?
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And how do I have perfect love that's going to cast out fear?
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What's going on here? Right?
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Well, I think it's an education process for us as well who are
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looking at closely at this. I think there's a form of
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protection that is automatically applied if you have your your
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spirit right with the Lord. But going back to my other
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statement of the more powerful entities, put it that way, I've
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I'm sure you probably heard about the CBS carried this story
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either back in September of 2025.
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That said here that there was a video released of AUS Reaper
59:56
drone showing a glowing orb off the coast of Yemen.
1:00:01
And then in the video, a Hellfire missile suddenly struck
1:00:05
the unidentified object. And bounced off it.
1:00:09
That was a Hellfire missile, so. It's wild, you know, I think
1:00:20
kind of wind down for this Part 1.
1:00:22
I, I have the desire to go for much longer.
1:00:26
You know, I wanted to do a 2 hour recording and, and really
1:00:28
hash some stuff out, but I think this is a great introductory
1:00:31
episode. I'm going to try to save my
1:00:33
voice for the for the week coming.
1:00:36
And I'll just kind of land with with asking a final question
1:00:40
before the audience can definitely look forward to
1:00:42
seeing you in the near future for a Part 2.
1:00:45
But give us a word of encouragement with all this, you
1:00:48
know, chaotic stuff going on. How would you encourage the body
1:00:52
of believers today? We have to remember it says in
1:00:56
the Bible too, that when the enemy comes in like a flood, the
1:00:59
Lord raises up a standard against it.
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So you have to remember this, the superior force is our Lord
1:01:06
and his angels, His good angels that are mighty and are there
1:01:11
for our protection. And so we can rest in that
1:01:14
assurance. But I think for us in in looking
1:01:17
at this, it's kind of like a pay attention.
1:01:20
This is a wake up call. It might be a little
1:01:22
frightening, but I want you to know about this so you don't get
1:01:26
deceived. I think that's the bottom line.
1:01:29
But never ever give way to thinking I, I have to live in
1:01:35
fear because of these things should never supplant the
1:01:38
superiority of our Lord and Savior.
1:01:41
He is still sovereign. He's still on the throne.
1:01:45
It's very well said and plug in real quickly where you can be
1:01:48
found and just mention your books again and please do send
1:01:52
me a couple links so people where can they find your books?
1:01:56
Yeah, no, actually you can get that on Amazon or Barnes and
1:02:00
Noble Noble. They're available.
1:02:04
I think I have such a long e-mail.
1:02:08
If they want to get hold of me, they can can reach me at.
1:02:13
Let me get that up for you. Yeah.
1:02:17
I can I can add your website into the details of the show
1:02:20
notes if you have a contact section there.
1:02:24
And your books, are, you said, are available in Barnes and
1:02:26
Noble and Amazon. And Amazon or you can get it
1:02:28
directly from the publisher Life Rich.
1:02:31
But yeah, they're they're available.
1:02:33
You can get both of them at either place actually.
1:02:38
Either were OK. Well, thank you so much for
1:02:40
this, this amazing Part 1. I have very many more questions
1:02:44
to come. And I think that there's some
1:02:46
interesting connections that we're going to be able to dive
1:02:49
in together here in the days to come.
1:02:51
So it's just a blessing and an honor to have you here for a
1:02:54
Part 1. And I hope I haven't scared you
1:02:57
off. It is a complex subject, but you
1:03:00
know. And God bless you for doing
1:03:02
this. And God bless your hell with
1:03:03
that. You'll be feeling strong and
1:03:06
well again very soon here. For such a time as this, well,
1:03:10
that's the episode you guys like this share coming to you from
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Southeastern Pennsylvania. Until next time, God bless and
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goodbye. Try and trust no.
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One daylight stay bright, you stay late.
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Stay late. You stay bright.
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Daylight you stay late you. Day like you.
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Day like stay right is better with you.
1:03:56
Day like you, day like you. Day right.
1:04:01
Stay right is better with you. You all and you.
1:04:08
It's better with you. You, you all.
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And you. If I showed you the scars, would
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you turn away? If I lowered the walls, would
1:04:22
you come and stay? If I open my heart, would you
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shine your light? If I let this thing start?
1:04:29
Hold me through the night. Cancel them.
1:04:31
Brave. Come take a ride with me.
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Let's take a look at all the things that life is supposed to
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be. Look me in the eye.
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I want to see a light. Shine.
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Beauty and passion. Just like it's the first time.
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Oh, my baby. I'm a gentleman at heart.
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Unless you win the service of my enemy or worker.
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Rather dark I speak light words and happy moments.
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Lighting my eyes, staring back. You're darker phones.
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Lord help me now. You stay and you stay.
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Red is better with you day. You hell ain't you day right
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Stay. Red is.
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Better with you. You honest you.
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It's better than you. You honest you.