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Tom Zawistowski - WeThePeopleConvention.org · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: He talk station seven thirty on a Tuesday. It's that
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  Speaker 1: time of week. You can find him at we the
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  Speaker 1: People Convention dot org. His name Tom Zawastowski does a
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  Speaker 1: podcast every week. He should check that out.
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  Speaker 2: Tom.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Morning Show, my friend. Great to
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  Speaker 1: hear from you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's good to be on. But wow, what a
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  Speaker 2: what a half hour or forty five minutes you've had
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  Speaker 2: talking about elections? Brian, Oh my goodness, I'm just soon.
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  Speaker 2: I can't argue with you, brother. You're saying some things
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  Speaker 2: that people need to hear about. How come there's nobody
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  Speaker 2: on the bloody ballot?
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  Speaker 1: It really is mind blowing. Tom. And you know, the
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  Speaker 1: sad news out of and I don't mean to talk
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  Speaker 1: about Anderson Township, but that's where this individual, this former politician,
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  Speaker 1: is talking about the problems mentioned. Specifically, he said everybody left,
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  Speaker 1: all the conservatives have left. There's a very small percentage
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  Speaker 1: of them left. He notably putting up the Tea Party.
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  Speaker 1: Folks all bailed and that was a solid conservative area.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if he's right statistically, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: if he's painfully aware of all of the conservative minded
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  Speaker 1: people who have literally moved out of Hamilton County. They've
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  Speaker 1: just given up, just completely given up, Brian.
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  Speaker 2: So I can speak to that, okay, because the Tea
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  Speaker 2: Party came out of Hamilton County, came out of Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 2: I know Chris Little did in those guys, okay. And
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  Speaker 2: the thing that just one of your callers had common
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  Speaker 2: sense a little bit ago. And here's the thing that
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  Speaker 2: didn't pass the common sense test to me as a
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  Speaker 2: Tea Party person, because the Cincinnati guys said, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we can run for a county Central Committee, we can
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  Speaker 2: run for state Central Committee. We can take over the
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  Speaker 2: Republican Party and reform it, right, And I said, really,
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  Speaker 2: is that right? Well, then all of a sudden, the
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  Speaker 2: interesting things happened, like geez, when the Tea Party started
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  Speaker 2: to run for county Central Committee positions. Instead of having
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  Speaker 2: those races every two years, they made them every four years.
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  Speaker 2: And oh yeah, and then once we started running again,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we're the Tea Party. I had no idea
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  Speaker 2: there was anything called State Central Committee. Comrade. It sounds
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  Speaker 2: like something out of the former Soviet Union, right, what
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  Speaker 2: the heck is that? Right? And they said, well, it's
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  Speaker 2: been on your ballot, and I'm like, I don't even
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  Speaker 2: remember even seeing that that you could elect people to
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  Speaker 2: these party positions, and then we started to run for
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  Speaker 2: these things. I have a friend right now today who's
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  Speaker 2: running in Stark County for a Republican Party State Central
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  Speaker 2: Committee seat. In the past, Brian, you didn't spend any
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  Speaker 2: money on it. You just went out knocked on doors.
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  Speaker 2: You went to the social events that the Republicans would
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  Speaker 2: put on, and said, hey, here's my name, here's what
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  Speaker 2: I believe in. You know, vote for me. He's got
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  Speaker 2: an opponent. Now I guess this. This is a non
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  Speaker 2: paid position for Republican Central Committee. His one opponent has
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  Speaker 2: spent fifty five thousand dollars to run for this. Why
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  Speaker 2: would any sane person run for a position that pays
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  Speaker 2: nothing and spend fifty five thousand dollar of their money?
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  Speaker 1: Wow?
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  Speaker 2: Good question, isn't it? Okay, that's a good question. How
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  Speaker 2: about this question? All right? I don't know nobody ever
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  Speaker 2: talks about this, but in Ohio, the way you become
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  Speaker 2: a member of a political party is by voting in
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  Speaker 2: the primary. Did you know that when you pull the
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  Speaker 2: Republican ballot today, you're basically saying I want to be
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  Speaker 2: a member of the Republican Party.
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  Speaker 1: Not a doues paying member, I might point out.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and boy did I have that discussion, because people
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  Speaker 2: will remember those of their old tea party people that
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  Speaker 2: Tom Zawastowski ran to be chairman of the Uhio Republican
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  Speaker 2: Party back when Matt Borgius was taking it over under Kasik.
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  Speaker 2: And I said to them, yeah, you don't want to
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  Speaker 2: have a real political party. These aren't political parties. These
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  Speaker 2: are country clubs. Because because when James Timpkin is the
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  Speaker 2: chairman a few years ago, she can make four phone
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  Speaker 2: calls and eraise five million dollars from their big donors.
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  Speaker 2: Why mess with those pesky you know, two only in
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  Speaker 2: Republican you know members and get them to pay twenty
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  Speaker 2: dollars a year to fund our campaigns. We don't want
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  Speaker 2: to do that. That's too much light work. Okay, So
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  Speaker 2: then let's keep going on the insanity. You know it's
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  Speaker 2: going to cost today for us, the tax payers of Ohio,
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  Speaker 2: to put on primaries for what, Brian, These are not
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  Speaker 2: political entities. The Republican Party, the Democrat Party, the Liberton part,
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  Speaker 2: Libertarian Party, the Green Party, whoever are private entities?
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  Speaker 1: True?
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  Speaker 2: You and I are going to spend fifty million dollars
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  Speaker 2: today to put on this freaking primary. Fifty million dollars
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  Speaker 2: of our state taxpayer dollars. Why are we doing that?
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  Speaker 2: Guess what if we didn't do that, you think they'd
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  Speaker 2: have primaries. They just have a meeting and say here's
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  Speaker 2: our choices. They'll be on the ballot in November.
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  Speaker 1: Yeout, what the hell would we care?
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  Speaker 2: What would we care? And the reason that he's on
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  Speaker 2: the ballot, Brian, is because they can't pay enough to
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  Speaker 2: get on the ballot. It's all hey to play.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, money in politics. Tom Zawastowski, shocking, literally, know one.
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  Speaker 1: Although I appreciate the gory details and your criticisms of
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  Speaker 1: the Republican Party because you know, we like to think,
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  Speaker 1: as conservative minded people that we have our house in order,
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  Speaker 1: Clearly we do not, Tom's AWASKI hold on, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: you've got more on that. We're gonna talk about the
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  Speaker 1: Yes it is primary, PARSD Talk Station, Miriyan, Thomas whet
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  Speaker 1: and People Convention dot org or dot com. Tom Zawastowski, Tom,
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  Speaker 1: real quick, you had mentioned the Tea Party and I
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  Speaker 1: used to think the Tea Party was the greatest thing.
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  Speaker 1: Why because it really boiled down to my pure little
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  Speaker 1: L libertarian principles fiscal responsibility, limited government, and free markets.
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  Speaker 1: What's wrong with that? Whatever happened to the Tea Party? Tom,
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like very solid principles. It didn't involve social engineering,
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  Speaker 1: It didn't comment on you know who you're sleeping with,
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  Speaker 1: like my little little L libertarian philosophy. I trust you
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  Speaker 1: with your zipper, I trust you with your wallet. Let's
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  Speaker 1: keep politics out of all of that. That was a
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  Speaker 1: great direction for the Republican Party to go down. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you didn't alienate as many people had these solid core
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  Speaker 1: principles like hey, there's a concept fiscal responsibility, less government,
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  Speaker 1: love the idea, and free markets, free markets work. Mean,
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  Speaker 1: what did it get corrupted? Did the Republican Party squeeze
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  Speaker 1: them out? Because it just dealt with these pure core
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  Speaker 1: principles that I think is at least were embodied some
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  Speaker 1: of them embodied in the Republican platform. It's just the
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  Speaker 1: Republican platform was much bigger than those three points. Tom.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know we didn't get destroyed. We're still here.
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  Speaker 2: I like to say that the Tea Party is the
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  Speaker 2: skeletal structure of the Magabody politics that we, you know,
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  Speaker 2: are still in the in the background, organizing the younger
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  Speaker 2: folks who haven't gotten the experience that we've had in politics.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, look, Ay Jim Jordan and those guys
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  Speaker 2: are Tea Party guys. You know a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: people still fighting the way you and I would like
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  Speaker 2: them to fight were from the Tea Party. But what's
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  Speaker 2: happened is Donald Trump and Mega and basically it just
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  Speaker 2: brought in a whole another layer of people and really
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  Speaker 2: quite frankly, the money to take control of things and
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  Speaker 2: kind of drive the agenda. But let me just say
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  Speaker 2: to our friends out there who think like you and I,
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  Speaker 2: because the Tea Party again, why we're with the Tea
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  Speaker 2: Party because we were following the footsteps of our founders,
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  Speaker 2: of the Colonists and the Thirteen Colonies, who fought the
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  Speaker 2: British and had to use gorilla tactics to win. I
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  Speaker 2: think you've got to use those gorilla tactics today in
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  Speaker 2: this election. What do I mean by that, Well, first
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  Speaker 2: of all, you talked about I talked to someone from
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  Speaker 2: CINS today yesterday. I guess there's no levy on the
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  Speaker 2: ballot down there in a lot of places, so there's
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  Speaker 2: like no reason to vote. They're expecting like ten percent
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  Speaker 2: turnout in Cincinnati. Well, that's a tactical advantage for those
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  Speaker 2: of us who want to make a surprise attack, because
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  Speaker 2: if you vote, you're both gonna be worth a whole lot.
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  Speaker 1: More, right, Brian, Yes, sir, I'm glad you made that point.
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  Speaker 2: So get there there, Now, what do you want? Where
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  Speaker 2: are our opportunities? Now? You know again, I'm speaking from
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  Speaker 2: my knowledge of these candidates and talking to them and
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  Speaker 2: analyzing them. I think you got to vote for Verbak.
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  Speaker 2: I get the Casey Push thing. He's now serious, you
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  Speaker 2: interviewed him. I'm sorry he's disqualified. But we have two
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  Speaker 2: things that we can do today. We can upset the
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  Speaker 2: cart in Secretary of States race by voting for Marcel Sturbage.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of the Push people will turn
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  Speaker 2: out will vote for Sturbage because they have the same attitude,
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  Speaker 2: okay about politics, So that can take him over the top,
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  Speaker 2: and that will rock the vote of the big money people. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: who are you trying to, you know, keep the carousel going? Now?
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  Speaker 2: I know Robert Sprague. I like Robert Spragg's a good guy,
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  Speaker 2: but boy, his TV commercials really turned me off because
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  Speaker 2: we take the elections problems seriously, and his TV commercials
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  Speaker 2: were about like cartoon characters and stuff voting. It was
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  Speaker 2: like a joke. It's not a joke. We need a
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  Speaker 2: serious person and that's ourselves. Service the other one, the
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  Speaker 2: other one. I don't know who's behind this, but Jay
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  Speaker 2: Edwards and Christina Rogner for Treasurer of state. Jay Edwards
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  Speaker 2: is a Blue twenty two controlled by the Democrat unions.
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  Speaker 2: And why Bernie Marino and JD. Vance are pushing him
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  Speaker 2: so hard, I don't know, but I know it has
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  Speaker 2: something to do with money, because you can tell how
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  Speaker 2: much advertising has. Christina Rogner is more than qualified. She's
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  Speaker 2: not just another politician looking for a job because quite frankly,
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't need one. Per in her family are very
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  Speaker 2: well off. But guess what she's learning to be treasurer.
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  Speaker 2: She went to the Wharton School of Business. She worked
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  Speaker 2: for Mackenzie and Company. She's been in the accounting field
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  Speaker 2: with major energy companies. Guess what she could be in
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  Speaker 2: the freaking treasurer. Jay Edwards has no qualifications except he's
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  Speaker 2: politically connected. If you turn out and you vote for
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  Speaker 2: Rogner and Sturbitch, and we can pull those two victories off.
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  Speaker 2: That'll be worth your efforts, my fellow patriots, that will
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  Speaker 2: be upsetting the card and saying you can't just buy
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  Speaker 2: my vote. So that's my attitude towards today's election.
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  Speaker 1: Love it. Stay on the soapbox, Tom's Awastowski. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: hear your comments about the most recent Supreme Court the
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  Speaker 1: talk station thinking about Casey Talks Station. It's Tuesday, finishing
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  Speaker 1: up a half hour here with Tom's Awastowski. We the
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  Speaker 1: People Convention dot Org is where you find Tom's website
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  Speaker 1: and check out his podcast. Tom's Awastowski. We had a
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  Speaker 1: recent Supreme Court decision saying you cannot use race to jerrymander.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like a perfect thing because we're not supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be being racist when it comes to allocating the
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  Speaker 1: jurisdictions for voting. I have never understood jerrymandering. It is
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  Speaker 1: obviously one of the most political processes that happens in
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  Speaker 1: this country. So if you vote for a bunch of Democrats,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to read jigger the system and oh and
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  Speaker 1: try to ensure that they stay in power. That's what
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  Speaker 1: jerry mandering does, so you can't use race to do
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  Speaker 1: that anymore. Tom.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Supreme Court Justice gorse It's had a great line
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  Speaker 2: in the decision saying, yeah, the way to stop being
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  Speaker 2: racist is to stop doing racist things like this, okay,
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  Speaker 2: because it was never intended that you could draw districts
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  Speaker 2: to represent a specific race. That's totally against everything in
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  Speaker 2: our constitution, and yet we get it for how many years, Brian?
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  Speaker 2: And so this goes back to your point, Jerry, on
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  Speaker 2: the record, Brian Thomas Thoms Alastowski eight, Jerry mannering should
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  Speaker 2: not exist. It should be contiguous geographic areas, right, you know,
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  Speaker 2: not all these twisty twirling, politically designed things. But unfortunately
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  Speaker 2: we are at war. We are at war with the communists.
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  Speaker 2: You said it flat out. There are many Democrats anymore.
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  Speaker 2: This is a communist takeover our country. And here's the
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  Speaker 2: dirty little secret that you know the media is trying
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  Speaker 2: to cover up. They redistrict decades ago. There is no
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  Speaker 2: way that the Democrat quote Communist party should have fifty
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  Speaker 2: percent of the Senators and fifty percent of the House members.
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  Speaker 2: They sold them, Brian, by by doing things like this
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  Speaker 2: racial journeymanding stuff. And so when the Supreme Court said hey,
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  Speaker 2: you can't do that, and they all quoted, They all
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  Speaker 2: cried Jim Crow two point zero, except nobody points out, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the original Jim Crow was you. You were Jim Crow
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  Speaker 2: one point zero. And this is fixing that. Now. People
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  Speaker 2: don't understand, Brian. This is huge. This is not some
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  Speaker 2: normal thing. This is not something you can just say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's nice, or don't even know about it. We needed
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  Speaker 2: this badly because literally, this one decision could change the
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  Speaker 2: House from the you know, Republicans having four per seat,
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  Speaker 2: you know, four seat majority to having a fifty seat
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  Speaker 2: majority by year, so that we can't we get out
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  Speaker 2: of this situation where oh the Democrats buy off one
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  Speaker 2: or two Republicans and they stop everything we do. If
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  Speaker 2: you have a fifty seat majority, you can actually maybe
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  Speaker 2: legislate what a concept and so go to our website
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  Speaker 2: we people can mention dot org. You'll see the article
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  Speaker 2: there about the racial Germans Jurymannering decision, and watch the
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  Speaker 2: CNN video that's listened that's embedded in that article where
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  Speaker 2: they break it down. Because across the South, and I
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  Speaker 2: just saw this morning when I got up, the Supreme
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  Speaker 2: Court approved Louisiana delaying their primary from May nineteenth in
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  Speaker 2: order to have a session to redraw their districts before
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  Speaker 2: their primary comes up. They're doing this in Florida. Just
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  Speaker 2: did it. Four new Republican seats, Louisiana, Mississippi, in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be like seven southern states are going
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  Speaker 2: to do this, and when you change those seats, the
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  Speaker 2: whole map is going to change, and we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get something that reflects more accurately the people's values in
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  Speaker 2: this country, not things that are fictitious are propaganda. It's
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  Speaker 2: a huge decision and everyone needs to understand this is
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  Speaker 2: the first step to our getting our country back well.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously this was going to happen. Turn about fair
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  Speaker 1: play the Democrats did in California. They had to overturn
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  Speaker 1: a law on the books that allocated redistricting to it
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  Speaker 1: so called independent panel. Get rid of that and put
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  Speaker 1: it back in the hands of the Democrats to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that they had more Democrat seats, or at least
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  Speaker 1: a map that helped them to achieve more Democrat seats
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  Speaker 1: in Congress. So they're doing it.
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  Speaker 2: How about just Virginia, right, how about what just happened
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  Speaker 2: in Virginia right now, that's going to get overturned. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think this thing where Virginia is six' five and
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  Speaker 2: they're going to make a ten to. One they violated
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  Speaker 2: their constitution like five different. Ways so that's going to
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  Speaker 2: go back into THE gop. Side it's a big. Deal
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  Speaker 2: and the other thing is we're going to wait to.
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  Speaker 2: See BUT i think The Suprie corps is going to.
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  Speaker 2: Rule Election day is Election. DAY i hope people have
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  Speaker 2: no idea how many seats that would. Say in twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 2: four our, members The Reading People convention members in Southern
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  Speaker 2: california were begging me for. Help we're begging us to
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  Speaker 2: send people out there because The left just kept keeping
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  Speaker 2: the polls open day after day for two, weeks and
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  Speaker 2: these ballots would just, appear and we won like six
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  Speaker 2: seats For republicans In Southern california on election. Day by
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  Speaker 2: the time they were, done we had won one.
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  Speaker 1: Seat, yeah, well how do we survive two hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty years as a country until this most recent moment
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  Speaker 1: in our country's, history where you had thirty plus days to,
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  Speaker 1: vote we all managed to do it on one. Day
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  Speaker 1: up until that, point in. Time it's amazing on horseback.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah walking to the polls you get people, are,
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  Speaker 2: Oh i'm so inconvenience BECAUSE i got to go show
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  Speaker 2: up the. Vote oh, Really now you go Get starbucks real.
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  Speaker 1: Quick here going back to the whole idea of just
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  Speaker 1: like takeing equally sized a grid in a, state and
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  Speaker 1: rather than do it in these crazy twisted ways to
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  Speaker 1: ensure that one person or one party or another gets,
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  Speaker 1: elected why don't we have just equal mileage geographic. Breakdown,
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  Speaker 1: like let's, say if you could use counties for, example
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  Speaker 1: just make It Hamilton. County everybody In Hamilton county is
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  Speaker 1: in one. District everybody. Weren't what is the traditional argument
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  Speaker 1: against that? Conceptually, oh the.
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  Speaker 2: Tridial argument is that we can't control the. Elections, okay,
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  Speaker 2: Listen the thing The Tea party learned from the very
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  Speaker 2: beginning is that they don't want fair. Elections you pointed
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  Speaker 2: out that there's nobody on the ballot In. Cincinnati i'm
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  Speaker 2: looking at my ballot right. Here in seventeen of twenty
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  Speaker 2: Two republican races on my, ballot seventeen are. Uncontested on
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  Speaker 2: The democratic, side there's sixteen out of twenty three why
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  Speaker 2: is that they don't want fair, Elections they want rigged.
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  Speaker 2: Elections both parties only want elections where they control who's
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  Speaker 2: on the. Bout you can vote for anyone you want, To,
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  Speaker 2: brian as long as one of the two people we
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  Speaker 2: picked for.
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  Speaker 1: You Tom's austowski put an exclamation point on it. Today,
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  Speaker 1: TOM i really enjoy your, enthusiasm particularly, today and we'll
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  Speaker 1: find your. Website i'll encourage my listener to do. So
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  Speaker 1: we The People convention dot. Org, tom you AND i
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  Speaker 1: will do this again Next. Tuesday i'll look forward to
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  Speaker 1: that and keep up the great, work my.
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  Speaker 2: Friend All, right go, Vote, patriots go vote and win
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  Speaker 2: those two. Races Thanks.
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  Speaker 1: Brian great advice From Tom's. Austowski don't go away at
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