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Big names on the trade block, Phillies moves, Imai posted, Jorge Polanco’s future, Nats keeping Gore? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Good Tuesday afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Foul Territory Baseball the
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  Speaker 1: way it should be covered. I am your guest host
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  Speaker 1: Alana Rizzo, alongside Eric kratz ag pre Zinsky Scott bron
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  Speaker 1: will be back with you guys tomorrow. Hello, gentlemen, good
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  Speaker 1: to see you. How's it going this Tuesday, Aj.
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  Speaker 2: Everything's good, good morning, got my workout in, got a
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  Speaker 2: nice walk with my dogs.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you know that was it? Really nothing?
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  Speaker 2: Had some had some stuff to do, Alanna, that's normal,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, just a normal Tuesday over here.
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  Speaker 1: Good job.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome both at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: What's up?
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  Speaker 3: Do you walk them both at the same timesolutely? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 2: Do they get I've never done that. Do they get
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  Speaker 2: tangled up? Or are they just like straight, straight ahead dogs?
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  Speaker 2: They're pretty straight. They stop every once in a while
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  Speaker 2: and smell smell my lab more than my pomski, so
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  Speaker 2: I have to kind of grab him and yank him
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  Speaker 2: a little.
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  Speaker 1: You have a big one and a little one.
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  Speaker 2: Well eighty pounds, and she's supposed to be like thirty,
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  Speaker 2: but she's like forty, so eighty because she thinks she's
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  Speaker 2: the big dog in my lap, the little dog.
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  Speaker 3: So it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: As long as they walk at the same pace, You're okay.
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  Speaker 3: Eric.
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  Speaker 1: They do have things that you can put around your
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  Speaker 1: waist that you can walk two dogs at the same
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  Speaker 1: time and it helps you. So I'll send you a link.
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  Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. I'll get you all set.
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  Speaker 3: I just have one dog.
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  Speaker 2: I have one dog and she goes, she goes left,
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  Speaker 2: smells something comes back around me, comes back around to
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  Speaker 2: the left side, and I'm constantly like pulling my hand around.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like, if I had two dogs.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Just sounds like maybe she she could use some training,
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  Speaker 1: Eric Kratz, perhaps or maybe maybe you should get some
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  Speaker 1: training on how to walk her.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not going to deny that.
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  Speaker 1: John Mackie says, this guy. Don't expect the Pirates to
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  Speaker 1: sign Kyle Schwaba. Don't think they ever had a chance
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  Speaker 1: at Josh Naylor. But they can should extend Connor Griffin
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  Speaker 1: and make him their opening day shortstop in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and twenty six. I can't imagine a universe, Eric and
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  Speaker 1: aj where Kyle Schwarber would go to the Pirates number one,
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  Speaker 1: number two. Yeah, I don't think they hadn't necessarily a
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  Speaker 1: shot at Naylor obviously just signed a five year, ninety
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  Speaker 1: two million dollar deal to stay in Seattle. Do you
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  Speaker 1: agree with this that they should extend Connor Griffin and
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  Speaker 1: at least that's something that that team can be excited about.
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  Speaker 1: In addition, of course, to Paul Skins.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, why wouldn't they If they can do it, now
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  Speaker 3: do it. They won't.
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  Speaker 2: Because they just don't do the right thing. Ever, it
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  Speaker 2: seems like so they won't. They should have signed Skimes
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  Speaker 2: before they called him up. They should have signed all
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  Speaker 2: these guys. I mean they Yes, they signed Reynolds, they
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  Speaker 2: signed Hayes and Cabrian Hayes and then traded them, which
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure they were like, man, I can't believe we've
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  Speaker 2: got someone to take that contract. I mean, defense is
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  Speaker 2: great and all, but you got to be able to
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  Speaker 2: hit to play third base, and he hasn't done that
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  Speaker 2: for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, should they do this, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Should they try and get some free agents, Absolutely, because
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  Speaker 2: hopefully at some point we can get into this. All
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  Speaker 2: I keep hearing is teams are losing money, Teams losing money.
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  Speaker 2: But whatever, it's it's ridiculous. Teams aren't losing money. Teams
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  Speaker 2: are losing money and sell the team. They're making money.
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  Speaker 2: They just cook the books to make it look like
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  Speaker 2: they're losing money.
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  Speaker 1: Gary Sheffield Junior on ex saying future Yankee. This is
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  Speaker 1: in response to Jesse Rodgers tweet about Tatsuya am I.
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  Speaker 1: He's been posted. Guys. The window to negotiate with him
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  Speaker 1: is between November nineteenth, so that's tomorrow at eight am
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  Speaker 1: Eastern and January second at five pm Eastern. The twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven year old righty compile the one nine to two
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  Speaker 1: era in Japan last year. Those are great numbers. We
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  Speaker 1: know the Japanese arms are in high pursuit. Where do
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  Speaker 1: you think he goes? Ajay?
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  Speaker 3: Los Angeles?
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  Speaker 2: Don't they doesn't Every Japanese pitcher and player that's posted
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  Speaker 2: now go to Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 3: They're just point.
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  Speaker 1: They can all go there.
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  Speaker 2: And min Aga is going there too. He got a
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  Speaker 2: qualifying offer also from the Dodgers. He's gonna accept the
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers qualifying off.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it works. Oh it doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: And then what's the lefty, the lefty hitter guy that's
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be he's Mark Ami.
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  Speaker 3: He's not going to l A. He's going somewhere else.
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  Speaker 3: But I actually think I don't know the Yankees fit
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  Speaker 3: for am I but I.
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  Speaker 2: Could see I don't know if you go there though,
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  Speaker 2: but I could see like a Detroit going after him hard,
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  Speaker 2: even Boston going after him hard.
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  Speaker 3: But I just don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's just everything is everything for the Japanese guys is
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  Speaker 2: headed out on the West Coast a lot because the
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  Speaker 2: travel back home is so much easier.
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  Speaker 3: So I just don't know. I mean, I know we
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  Speaker 3: saw Tanaka, and we saw.
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  Speaker 2: Uh Rabu and and and uh the guy who threw
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  Speaker 2: the ball that didn't spind the dice g to Bostin.
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  Speaker 2: Just I just feel, yeah, he didn't do very well
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  Speaker 2: at all. He's he was terrible. He's just Stangerman.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Time Now for shake it Up guys. Going
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  Speaker 1: off of Jeff Passon's column recently about free agency updates,
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  Speaker 1: is Stephen Kwan going to stay in Cleveland or is
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  Speaker 1: he going to go someplace else? Seems like multiple gms
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  Speaker 1: believe he's gone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's gonna get traded. The Guardians will
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  Speaker 2: do something here. They they're not going to spend money.
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  Speaker 2: So I think he's one of those guys that they'll
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  Speaker 2: make a move and he has value.
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  Speaker 3: So I think he'll be He'll be gone. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think he'd be a Guardian.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what about you, Eric, You think Kwan is a
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  Speaker 1: Guardian or you think he's a Dodger.
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  Speaker 2: From what I heard, he was almost a Dodger.
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  Speaker 3: What is it?
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  Speaker 1: No. The only reason I said that was because yesterday
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  Speaker 1: Jim Bowden was talking about it, and we were also
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  Speaker 1: talking about it on Dodgers territory that Tao is not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily the answer in right field. Maybe you move Tao
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  Speaker 1: to left, maybe you get Kyle Tucker and right even
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  Speaker 1: though they're not going to want to spend that money,
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  Speaker 1: but they were saying, we were talking about it that
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Kwan makes a lot of sense. Maybe in the Dodgers' outfields.
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  Speaker 1: He's a good bat to ball guy, he's great defensive.
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  Speaker 1: Where would where would you like to see him go?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he makes sense in a lot of outfields.
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  Speaker 2: I from what I heard from my inside source is
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  Speaker 2: he was going to be traded with Classe before the
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  Speaker 2: whole Classe thing happened, and that would have been that
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  Speaker 2: would have been a massive haul for for the Guardians.
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  Speaker 2: But I think he fits in a lot of outfields.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's a matter of understanding what you're
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  Speaker 2: getting with Steven Kuwan. He is somebody that's not going
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  Speaker 2: to give you a lot of power and is never
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  Speaker 2: going to give you a bed at that. Are you
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  Speaker 2: willing to because we heard all the time other years
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  Speaker 2: Luis A Rise could be traded.
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  Speaker 3: Luisa Rise was just traded.
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  Speaker 2: He was traded again, similar type of profile, with much
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  Speaker 2: much better defense. So what are teams willing to give up?
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I think the Guardians are going to
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  Speaker 2: ultimately trade him because they are able to get value
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  Speaker 2: out of somebody who I think becomes a free in
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven. So you're giving up extra, you're giving up
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  Speaker 2: two years. But it's the Guardians mo to try to
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  Speaker 2: get value when they can. And I think you know
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  Speaker 2: he's he will help whatever team he is on. He's
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  Speaker 2: a winning type of player, which doesn't give you any
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  Speaker 2: analytical numbers, but he plays great defense and puts together
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  Speaker 1: All right, along the same lines of what we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about in terms of free agents, stay or go
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  Speaker 1: Nick Costianos. This is an interesting situation AJ because Nick
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  Speaker 1: Costianus apparently had some beef with Rob Thompson during the
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  Speaker 1: end of their season, and per Jeff Passon, Philadelphia has
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  Speaker 1: tried to trade him along with his two twenty million
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  Speaker 1: dollars salary but supposedly no bidders. Is Castillanos back in
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  Speaker 1: Philly next year.
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  Speaker 3: Unless Philly eats some money. I think he is.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that they've been trying. It's like Alec Bohm,
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  Speaker 2: They've they tried to try. I think I feel like
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  Speaker 2: they've tried to trade Alig Bahm and Nick Castianos for
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  Speaker 2: years now. Castianos the reason I think again, we had
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  Speaker 2: castianisaw not long ago. We've had Dave Dombrowskio not long ago.
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  Speaker 2: He just got frustrated because he wants to play and
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  Speaker 2: Rob Thompson didn't wasn't playing him every day. And listen,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't have a great year. He's not great defensively,
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  Speaker 2: he can still swing the bat. He gets big hits
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  Speaker 2: for him. He got some huge hits for him in
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  Speaker 2: the postseason and down the stretch. So I think he's
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  Speaker 2: back just because I don't know the Philly's going to
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  Speaker 2: be willing to eat money to get him moved somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Phillies need to focus on just signing
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  Speaker 1: Kyle schwarberk to a long term deal. Byron Buxton, Eric Kratz,
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  Speaker 1: do you see Byron Buxton staying in Minnesota or moving on. Originally,
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  Speaker 1: he said he did not want to be traded. Now
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  Speaker 1: it seems like he's willing to at least explore the
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  Speaker 1: possibilities of not being with the Twins in twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a quote from Dumb and Dumber, Well,
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  Speaker 2: was all this one in a million talk. If Byron
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  Speaker 2: Buxton is available, you have to try to go and
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  Speaker 2: get him.
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  Speaker 3: If you are.
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  Speaker 2: The Philadelphia Phillies, if you're the Cincinnati Reds, you are
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  Speaker 2: the I mean, I wouldn't even be against you know,
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  Speaker 2: a team like the Brewers going to get like he's
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  Speaker 2: not being paid that much for the next three years.
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  Speaker 2: There is an opportunity to have a guy.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously.
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  Speaker 2: The whole health thing is that you know, always talked
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  Speaker 2: about that's a top ten MVP type of player. I
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  Speaker 2: just I have a hard time believing if there's a
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  Speaker 2: chance that gms are not calling about Byron Bucks and
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  Speaker 2: so I think he goes.
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  Speaker 3: I think he gets moved.
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  Speaker 1: Do you agree with that? AJ?
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  Speaker 2: I think if if Pablo Lopez and Joe Ryan get moved,
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  Speaker 2: then I think if I'm my next call is hey,
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  Speaker 2: Derek Falve, uh sign me up to go bye bye,
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  Speaker 2: also because why would he want to be there.
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  Speaker 3: They're not going to compete.
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  Speaker 2: They're saying they're going to compete or not if they
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  Speaker 2: move those two guys. Audios, I'm Byron Buckson. I'm on
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  Speaker 2: the phone with Derek Fallavey saying, see you get me
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  Speaker 2: out of here, please.
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  Speaker 1: All right, guys. Some news Bybert Murray saying that the
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox designated first baseman Nathaniel Lowe for assignment, and
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  Speaker 1: apparently Josh Unkowski was also designated for assignment by the
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox as well. Chris Catillo talking about that, so
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  Speaker 1: the Red Sox seemed to continue to have a first
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  Speaker 1: base problem. Eric will start with you, how do you
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  Speaker 1: see this playing out? Because I don't know if Tristan
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  Speaker 1: Cassis is going to come back, if that's going to
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  Speaker 1: be their dude. Abraham Toro didn't really work out there.
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  Speaker 1: Nathaniel Lowe came in. What are they doing first base?
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  Speaker 1: What's the play here?
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  Speaker 2: Pied Alonzo right handed bats first baseman. I guess it
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  Speaker 2: they don't love his Maybe maybe the Red Sox look
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  Speaker 2: at it like, hey, you know what our fallback plan
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  Speaker 2: is Tristan Cassis if he comes back from his injury.
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  Speaker 2: You know, has he done enough in the big leagues
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  Speaker 2: for them to say, yeah, we're a play I don't
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  Speaker 2: think you can say synonymously. You can't say it in
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  Speaker 2: the same breath. We want to be a World Series
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  Speaker 2: winning team, and we'll just figure out first base, because
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  Speaker 2: first base they showed, the Red Sox showed all of
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  Speaker 2: baseball and everybody that says it first pace. Isn't that easy.
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  Speaker 2: You can't just find somebody. I thought it was great
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  Speaker 2: that they picked up Nathaniel Low. Now they didn't bring
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  Speaker 2: him back. They didn't ten or more contracts, So you know,
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  Speaker 2: you got to go out and get somebody. And it's
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  Speaker 2: a position that there's a lot of power out there
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  Speaker 2: and you can't have.
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  Speaker 3: A lapse of power at first base if you want
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  Speaker 3: to win a World Series.
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  Speaker 1: In my opinion, Heyjay, is that the Red Sox biggest
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  Speaker 1: need figuring out first base? Or is it getting making
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  Speaker 1: sure Alex Bregman comes back.
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  Speaker 2: They need Bregman back and they need a first base.
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  Speaker 2: And whether it's trysting causes and he can stay healthy
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  Speaker 2: and do his yoga out in the outfield grass or
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  Speaker 2: whatever he wants to do, or if it's someone else
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  Speaker 2: as we had as we talked about is it Pete
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  Speaker 2: Alonso going there and helping fill that void at first base?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but that is a big Bregman should
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  Speaker 2: be number one, and then a starter and then a
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  Speaker 2: first baseman. Those are the three needs for the Red
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  Speaker 2: Sox for me, right, and it needs to be a
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  Speaker 2: right handed hitter because they have a lot of these
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  Speaker 2: guys that can hit lefty, but they need a dude
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  Speaker 2: that can go up there and slug and hit the
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  Speaker 2: ball off and over the Green Monster.
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  Speaker 1: So you think in that is that the order?
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  Speaker 3: Though?
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  Speaker 1: Is it Bregman extension number two starter to go behind
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  Speaker 1: Garrett Crochet in the rotation and then.
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  Speaker 2: A first basement is because because they have Castus, it's
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  Speaker 2: just sitting there and whatever happens with him. And they
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  Speaker 2: also prove they could be okay with Romey Gonzalez and
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  Speaker 2: Abraham Toro for some time right playing first base. So
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  Speaker 2: Alex Hore is really good at mixing and matching, but
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  Speaker 2: they need that lockdown their basement. Who should be Bregman,
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  Speaker 2: And then if they could get another starter at the
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  Speaker 2: top of the end rotation, be great, and then you
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  Speaker 2: can figure out first base down the road.
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  Speaker 5: I am your general manager.
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  Speaker 1: All right, guys, time now for I am your GM.
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  Speaker 1: This is the Philadelphia Phillies edition. Matt Gelb wrote, what
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  Speaker 1: I'm hearing about the Phillies Schwarbers free agency trademarket Bulpen reboot.
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  Speaker 1: Does Philly re signed Kyle Schwarberg? Guys, what's the play here?
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  Speaker 1: You think he comes back? And if he does, what's
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  Speaker 1: the deal? In your opinion?
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  Speaker 2: Aj, I think you think Philly is the place he
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  Speaker 2: should go back to. What's the deal? I think it's
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  Speaker 2: four year deal, four year deal, you know, one fifty
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  Speaker 2: something like that. I think four year, one twenty to
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  Speaker 2: I'm going one to fifty. They know how much he
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  Speaker 2: means to him, so I think Philly's a spot for him.
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  Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of other teams though, that
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  Speaker 2: are in on Kyle Schwarber because not only of his
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  Speaker 2: presence in the box, but his presence in the clubhouse.
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  Speaker 1: Finished second and National League MVP voting Eric turns thirty
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  Speaker 1: three before opening day. He is a d H, so
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  Speaker 1: you got to value that. He doesn't obviously play in
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  Speaker 1: the field, but that's highly valued by the Phillies. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: it's not obvious how the market will view him. What
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  Speaker 1: do you think do you think he goes back?
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  Speaker 2: I think the Phillies don't build their team necessarily on
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  Speaker 2: war in the offseason. I think some teams build their
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  Speaker 2: team on war and build their team on well, we
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  Speaker 2: want to make sure we have a lot of flexibility.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that's the route that they have to go. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any team that understands his value
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  Speaker 2: in the clubhouse more than the Phillies. I'd have a
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  Speaker 2: hard time believing, like being told who's going to be
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  Speaker 2: the next guy to step up? When you look around
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  Speaker 2: that team, who's the guy that steps up to be
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  Speaker 2: the leader on this team? And some people inside the
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  Speaker 2: clubhouse might say, we don't need you know, we have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of good leaders. I fear that when a
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  Speaker 2: team says that, because to me, that's where Schwarber's value is.
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  Speaker 2: Also the fact his numbers were ridiculous. He was a
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  Speaker 2: second second in MVP voting, But to me, it was
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  Speaker 2: less about his numbers and more about his improvement from
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  Speaker 2: last season to this season. The fact that he dropped
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: his strikeout rate, the fact that he hit the most
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: home runs left on left of anybody in the big Leaues,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: the fact that he's continually gotten better the entire time
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: he's been there, and I just feel like, I feel
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: like a team, other teams are gonna want to go
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: four years one twenty because they know his values there,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: and I think the Phillies will probably end up, you know,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: maybe like five one thirty five. I don't know that
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: he's going to get five full years at thirty a year.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's I feel like that's stretching it.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: And if it does get to that, I really think
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: the Phillies are willing to say, yes, we want to
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: be in on that.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Also is a DH.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Worth and I know you get what the market allows, right,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that, But is a DH worth thirty
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: million a year?
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if someone wants to pay you thirty million a year?
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Is sho Hee Otani worth seventy million dollars a year
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: as a DH?
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, but he also but he also pitches though
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: that's there's that's a little different.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: It's a little different this year, but he still he's
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: still the DH he didn't last year. Yeah, my good,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: davidtz worth thirty million in today's game, Edgar Martinez.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: But if you're going along the same lines of what
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Eric's saying about clubhouse guy and what he means to
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: the team. And yeah, David, for sure, I love Kyleshwarber.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I hope he gets it. God bless him. It's just
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of money for a DH.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I think thirty million just for a DH. Yes, I
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: think you're worth it. Thirty million to a player who
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: takes up just one position. That doesn't give you flexibility
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: for the other older the other guys who are aging
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: throughout their contract that are still going to be there
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: in the next five years while that contract is happening.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: That's when the thirty million gets a little gets a
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: little steep. I mean it does, and that's what teams
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: are gonna have to fear. But I think that is negated.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: That fear is negated by what he's brought in that clubhouse.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: The fact that he's transitioned from Rhys Hoskins being the
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: leader to Kyle Schwarber being the guy like he's just
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: he's a dude's dude is as Garrett Stubbs said, you know,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: he's the guy that always wants to play ping pong
• 18:03
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• 18:04
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• 18:04
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  Speaker 1: From sn y guys. Brandon Nimo reportedly quote can be
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: had in a trade this offseason. Such a callous way
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: to put it. Come get him, he can be had.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: You think Nimo goes anywhere else but the Mets?
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Aj I mean, I think I think the Mets are
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: pretty open to training almost anybody that they can trade.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Other than Francisco Lindor and Juan Soto, I don't know
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: that there's any other untouchables on that team. I think
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: if if David Stearns gets the write offer for any
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: of these, anybody, literally anybody on their team, I think
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: he would make a move for Nemo Alvarez, Manaiah Sanga, McNeil, geez, who.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Else do they?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just going through the off just like
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: off the top of my head. I mean, I think
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: they would pretty much move anybody they can a to
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: try to free up money and be to try to
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: make their better. Because this team last year, it didn't work.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: It didn't work. Sorry, it didn't work.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: What makes them better? What do they need.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Starting pitching bringing back? They gotta bring.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: They got to figure out closer if Edwin Diaz is gone,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: and they got to figure out starting pitching.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Frankie Montos, sorry, he ain't the answer.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I know David Searns likes to play in the kiddie
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: pool sometimes, but Frankie Montas ain't the answers. Especially was
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: he making seventeen or eighteen million dollars a year? That's
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: just that's not the answer. You're the Mets, go get
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: the big boys. I think the only way they move
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: them is if it gets them a starting pitcher, If
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: it gets them somebody that they don't they don't have
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: to go because they're very fearful of going real long
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: term five years on a starting pitcher.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Maybe Nimo.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe Nimo does blips that radar for a team that
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: they're like, hey, you know, we're willing to give up
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: so and so for Nemo, which Nemo is still a
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: legit player. It wasn't the Mets offense that was the issue.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it was. I get it, but everybody gets worn out.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: When your starting pitchers only go three or four innings.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: The position players are like, oh okay, here we go. Again,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: we got to score seven to win. The Bullpen's like, okay,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: we got to take care of this game. They need
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: starting pitching. It affects everything at MGM futures odds. We're
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: looking today at the twenty six al pennant, specifically the
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Astros at plus six point fifty. I mean, if I'm
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: ever getting plus six fifty on the Astros, I feel
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: like I have to I have to.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Put some money in.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm going to put money in yet
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: at this time, because I want to see what they're doing.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: They're a little thin in some areas. They're a little
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: thin in they're starting rotation, They're a little thin in
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: their bullpen. How's Hater going to come back? What does
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: that look like for them? And to me, there's other
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: value in the American League, But the Astros, I mean,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: eight out of nine years in the playoffs, six fifties
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: right on that border. Maybe a little thin for me.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I'd like to see it maybe a little bit higher,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: But I was looking at who else there is. The
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Red Sox are at eight hundred, the Blue Jays at
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: a thousand. To me, the money is really once you
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: get down to Orioles and Rangers Orioles at thirteen hundred
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: and the Rangers at sixteen hundred AJ.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: The only team that has better odds are the Yankees
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and the Mariners. Are you taking plus six to fifty
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: for the Astros?
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: No, No, there's too much. There's too much. There's too
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: much work to be done there.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: And listen, we had Joe's spot on and I love
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Joe's spot I think he's a great, unbelievably gifted manager
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and communicator. But they just have a lot of holes
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: right now. And let's not forget they're the second highest
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: and they didn't make their third highest. They didn't make
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: the playoffs last year, okay, and they lose Fromber and
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: they lose some other pieces. So I don't think I
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: think it's not If it was more like plus thousand,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: then I more think about it. Right now, where they stand,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: they're just not they're not there for me right now?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: All right? What would have to change? Who do they
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  Speaker 1: All right, we are looking ahead. Let's talk about Jodge
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Polanco and his future. Now, the Boston Red Sox might
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: want him. This is from Salmon and Ken Rosenthal's column.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: The Red Sox may want him, guys, if they do,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: in fact lose third baseman Alex Bregman. The Blue Jays
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: might be a fit if they lose Boba Shit. And
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: those are just two of the possibilities. Where do you
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: see Polonco landing?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Aja Seattle and the Red Sox are always in on everybody.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: That's the whole running joke on the show.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: A Loanta. The Red Sox are Oh we tried, we
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: never just never got across the finish line. Right.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: So I think Seattle was a great fit for him
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: last year that he really reinvented himself, had a great year.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: He fits in that in that I mean to think
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: about the big hits he got. So I think Seattle,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of teams would like Jorge Blank
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: He's a switch hitter with power that can play. He
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: can play second for you. He can also probably play
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: first or third if you need him to in a pinch.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: So I think there's a lot of but I'd love
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: to see him back in Seattle. Yeah, I think it's
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I think it's easy. I think it's an easy fit there.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I don't see how long that contract's going to be,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: so I feel like he slides into that that space
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: where it's got to be a team that doesn't really
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: need a lot of pitching help, doesn't really need they
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: need to add some need to add some offense.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I agree, back to Seattle. Okay.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: McKenzie gore the lefty under club control with the Nats
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: for two more seasons. With the projected arbitration number of
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: four point seven million, would seem a more obvious candidate
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: for the Nats to move.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Guys.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: They have a new manager, they're still in rebuild. You
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: guys said yesterday that the Washington Nationals are irrelevant. Where
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: do you see McKenzie gore ending up?
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Hey, Jay, PROVEI mere wrong that they're relevant, and then
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about him. But for four point five million,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: where you should stay right where he's at in Washington?
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, cool, that's nothing. This guy's pretty good.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: He gets you a punch out, He'll win you some
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: games if they could just figure out a way to
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: score him any kind of runs. I think he stays there.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, where's he gonna end up? I mean, would
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: they get stuff for him? Sure, But I think you
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: should stay right there because at some point Washington is
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: going to have to build around somebody.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Is it is it would? Is it Gore? Is it Abram?
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Who's it gonna be?
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, they signed Kybert Reeves, He's been hurt since
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: they signed him to that, so who do they build around?
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Mckenzi Gore is a pretty good piece to start at,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: and I would try to lock him up for a
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: long term and say, hey, at least we have one pitcher,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: we can count.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: What if it's Abrams in a package deal.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Bige shortstop obviously c J.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Abrams has you know, maybe some more growing up to do,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: but he's growing up in the big leagues and he
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: puts up big time numbers. So I mean, if you
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: need a shortstop, you know, how would both of those
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: guys look in Atlanta? Obviously they they would love some
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: left hand more left handed pitching. They would love a
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: starting pitcher. That's you know, coming off a healthy year.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: To me, I feel like there's I know this will
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: never happen, but it feels like if you've ever been
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: to like a white elephant gift where they like you
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: go in the middle and you like, pick a gift
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: if somebody's if somebody's picked a gift three times, it
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: can't be exchanged. If you were in a package for
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: a prospect, I mean for an elite superstar like Juan Soto,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: like you were traded to that team because the team
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: wanted to not resign that guy and they wanted to rebuild.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: He's not even done in six years yet, and they're
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: looking they're talking about trading him. It's like, like, wasn't
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: this I get a team's fail on this kind of stuff.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: But he was supposed to be one of the pieces
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: and is one of those pieces. Instead of saying, oh,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: we got to take a step back and get rid
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: of CJ. Abrams, we got to take a step back
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: and just see, you know, see what's out there.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: We have a player development manager. No like, keep him.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: He can be a number two or number three and
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: start adding pieces, which they should have done last offseason,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: is my opinion. But look, if Mackenzie Gore's is really available,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: it's going to cost a lot, and I don't know
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: that teams are going to be willing to pay that
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: much because he kind of his numbers kind of fell
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: off a little bit throughout the year last year, at
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: the beginning the year, he's leading the league in strikeouts,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: still ended up with like almost two hundred strikeouts. So
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: to me, the values there, I mean.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: He's young, he's twenty seven, right, And Paul Tiboni, the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: new president of Baseball Operations, because of course the Nash
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: just went through a huge front office overhaul, thinks he
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: can take it to the next gear. What would that
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: next gear be?
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Guys?
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: What does he need to do to get even more.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Elite Limited walks a little bit and go deeper into games.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: He doesn't go that if you look at his numbers,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: he doesn't go that deep because he strikes a lot
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: of guys out.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: He goes has a lot of deep counts.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: So I think figuring out how to go deeper into
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: games is the big thing for me that I think
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: teams look at. But listen, Mackenzie Gore could be a good,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: really special pitcher in this league for a long time,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: for the next you know, however long you want to
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: have him. And geez, I mean, you know, you joked
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: that we said the Nats are irrelevant. They just made
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: a rebuild. They just did a rebuild right when they
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: traded one Soto. Now here we are again a couple
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: years later, they're doing it again and again. It's like,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: at some point, figure it out, that's it. New front
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: office learners. Sell the team if that's what you want
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: to do, and figure it out, because rebuild, rebuild, rebuild,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Come on. I think there's I think when I watched
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Mackenzie Gore, he's not Teik Scuoble level, but he has
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: stuff that is swinging miss and I think he chases
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: swinging miss out of the zone more often than he
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: needs to. Is that a change in his approach? Does
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: he need to get confidence that he can get those
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: outs in the zone? But I think his stuff because
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: it comes from that awkward angle that his outs, his
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: strikeouts can be in the zone.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: This is pretty funny. So Chandler Rome apparently, who's a
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: co host of course, of Krush City Territory, read angry
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: messages he got after revealing his a l m VP vote.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Now he voted for Judges the al MVP. But take
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: a listen to this.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: This specimen said, are you really that butt hurt that
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: the Mariners won the Al West over your Astros that
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: you decided to vote Judge out of spite? This is
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: why you are fake news and why we don't trust
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: the media anymore. You guys have agendas, and that's why
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: newspapers are dead and why people don't watch ESPN or
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: the news anymore. It's people like you that make it
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: possible stay woke about the Mariners defeating your Astros in
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: the Al West. We just got started. We are going
• 30:37
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• 30:40
  Speaker 5: an extra s are a team in decline. So appreciate
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: less help.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: That's what I love about that, though, is that he
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: actually smiled. Chandler Rome actually smiled while he was reading
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: a mean tweet. AJ Pierzinski. Do you read mean tweets
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: of yourself? Do you watch social media at all?
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Naw? Do you think I care? Do you think I care?
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I think it's hilarious.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I I you know, when I call a game all
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: the time, people write all this stuff and even on
• 31:10
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• 31:13
  Speaker 2: and people are like, oh, this guy did this and this,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: like come on, Like I find it funny that people
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: take time out of their day and waste energy on
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: trying to insult people that they're watching on TV. Like
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: if you have a different opinion, that you can say,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I don't agree with you. But then they just take
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: these personal shots and you're just like, come on, Oh, that's.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: That's social media though. It's like keyboard warriors that live
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: in their parents' basement. Anybody can be a big time
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: when they're behind a keyboard and you don't have to
• 31:41
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• 31:43
  Speaker 2: My favorite is my favorite is when they they'll say
• 31:46
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• 31:49
  Speaker 3: He only hit two oh nine, negative war player.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: And then they're like, but I like Alana and aj
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: is an idiot too, Like it's just like just thrown
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: stand under standard barb because I said something about their organization.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Bring it on, I can take it.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: All right. Time now to slap hands everybody. Eric Kratz,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: what is on your noggin? What are you wearing today?
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Is that?
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Because the spot.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: It's actually a nice it's a nice orange. They did
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: a little two tone here. I appreciate it. I appreciate it.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Hashtag mega mind.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Hashtag see you tomorrow, hashtag Scott Braun is back. Thanks
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: for letting me be with you boys. It's been a pleasure.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: We'll see you guys tomorrow.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: See y