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Trey Hendrickson wants OUT of Cincinnati! · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  figure out how to do time. Give me that chicken Curry.
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  You can go live in freaking. Ancient or.
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  Something else like? That bagel hole.
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  That's a bagel hole, as I always say.
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  funniest one? I don't know.
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  I just had to tell him it was like bagel hole.
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  Bagel Hole. The old bagel hole.
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  Somebody got to use that bagel hole, right?
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  Speedy. Yeah, maybe it'll be nothing.
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  Have you ever put your fingers between the bagel hole?
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  Have you ever grabbed the bagel hole?
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  OK, there we go. I thought you were virgin
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  anyways. ESPN reports that Trey
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  Hendrickson will not play for the Bengals on his current deal.
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  He told reporters that he tried to take personal feelings out of
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  their contract negotiations, but over time it got very personal.
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  Hendrickson said there has still been a lack of communications
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  with the Bengals this month after he took shots at them for
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  their Baird April Fools joke last month.
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  Hendrickson compared the comments he heard from the
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  Bengals from the fun office and shark attacks and said he has
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  been caught off guard on many occasions.
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  He still believes the relationship with the team could
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  be repaired with time, but called this an uncomfortable
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  business side of football. Hendrickson.
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  Hendrickson is entering his final year of his contract worth
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  about $15.8 million and Hendrickson led the NFL with
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  17.5 sacks last season, 57 sacks since joining the Bengals in
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  2021. I, I, I feel bad for Trey
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  Hendrickson. I really do, because when you
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  look at Jamar Chase and you look at all the players that have got
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  their money and they're sensational, Jamar Chase is one
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  of the best wide receivers in the league.
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  Last year he was T Higgins. He couldn't stay healthy for the
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  last four years, really three years if you really look at it,
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  the last three seasons he hasn't been healthy and he had last
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  year. When he came back, he looked
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  really, really good. Now I understand Joe Burrow is
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  the captain. He is the face of the
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  organization and he wanted T Higgins back, but this defense
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  was nothing and has been nothing without Trey Hendrickson.
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  He is everything to that defense.
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  You could put him anywhere on that defensive line and he's
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  better than any second tier player they have on that roster
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  right now. It would bother me if I was Trey
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  Hendrickson and I'm looking at myself as a player that averaged
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  not once but twice back-to-back years. 17.5 sacks.
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  I was the the leading sack guy last year and I still don't
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  don't have a contract. I'm making 15 and a half million
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  dollars when Miles Garrett wasn't better than I was.
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  That's what I'm saying. I am the same age as Miles
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  Garrett and Miles Garrett is making more money than me when I
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  had a better season than he did. And Miles Garrett has better
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  defensive players on a defensive line than Trey Hendrickson.
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  Just think about it. Every team knows that Trey
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  Hendrickson is the best player on that line and they still
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  can't stop him. Just think about that.
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  So it would bother me when I look at my roster and say, well,
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  who's going to match what I've done for this defense?
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  Who's going to match what I've done for this team over the last
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  couple of years? As far as I'm concerned, besides
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  Joe Burrow, Trey Hendrickson in the last two years has been the
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  second most important player to this team.
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  So and he's not getting paid that kind of money.
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  That has something to do with coaching and the executives up
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  top, the GM who obviously sitting back and listen to Joe
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  Burrow. I love Joe and he's such a he's
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  got such a babyface. I mean, his his blonde hair last
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  season going into the season, great.
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  He he stands for something and all the fans want to be like
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  Joe. He's not Joe Montana.
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  That's all I'm going to say. He is not Joe Montana because if
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  he was, he would have won a championship.
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  He did not win a championship when he went all the way to the
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  the Super Bowl. He matter of fact lost against
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  Matthew Stafford and the Rams. So and and by the way, why did
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  they get there? Everybody keeps talking about
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  what Joe Burrow did. Let's go ask Trey Hendrickson
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  what he did. So I just, I feel so bad when
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  you look at the picture right now with the Bengals and where
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  the Bengals see Trey Hendrickson at, they really don't feel that
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  he is an important piece to this team moving forward.
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  He's still 30 years old. He's in still in somewhat of a
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  prime of his career. I still think he has two, maybe
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  3 decent years left at his position.
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  The guy is in tremendous shape. The guy plays practically every
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  single game. I mean, he plays hurt.
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  He's always out there and he's a team leader.
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  Everything that you see on and off the field personality wise
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  and even at the press conferences, he stands for
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  everything you want as a Bengals organization and the Bengals
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  organization that's been a laughing stock.
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  Go look at Vontae Perfect. Remember that guy?
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  Remember Perfect and remember what he did hen hunting and
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  doing the things that he did on the field.
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  Go ask Antonio Brown what he thought about Vontae Bart
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  perfect. OK, he doesn't really like him
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  and I'm sure he wasn't a big fan of his.
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  I I there you go show the show the clip because I think Antonio
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  Brown is, you know, brain dead because of this head.
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  All right, And that was because perfect was just an absolute
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  disgusting person. Trey Hendrickson doesn't go head
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  hunting. He doesn't try to hurt people.
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  He goes out there and plays the game right.
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  And to me in in in the what, four or five seasons he's been
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  there, he's been as good at defensive lineman as anybody in
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  the league. And it's a shameful thing when
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  you look at an organization that doesn't really look at him as a
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  prized possession to what this team could be or what this team
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  should be as a championship, championship competition,
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  positive team. I, I also will say this, I look
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  at an organization, OK. And there are positions that you
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  look for to build your team around.
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  And here's where I'm going to go #1 quarterback #2 offensive
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  lineman #3 that's the left tackle, all right?
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  Left tackle is your number two, Number three.
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  You can argue it's your corner or a pass rusher.
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  I'm going to go pass rusher. So you need an offensive tackle,
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  a pass rusher, and then a corner and and then a wide receiver.
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  And you went with wide receivers over a pass rusher.
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  Does that make any sense, guys? I would say no.
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  That to me tells me why the Bengals have not won a
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  championship and how long. I'm sorry, never won a
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  championship. That's right.
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  And that's why this team will never win a championship with
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  the roster they have right now. And Taylor's going to be looking
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  for a job at the end of the season as well, because making
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  this decision only shows you the lack of coaching for this
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  organization moving forward as well.
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  And it's also a lack of a sense of direction too, because we
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  talked about with the Cowboys, like they just like they'll do a
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  lot of the flashy moves. Jerry Jones, a de facto GM and
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  Mike Brown's kind of that same kind of thing.
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  I know they have a president of football operations that's
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  overseeing anything, but this is a very differently run team when
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  Marvin Lewis was there. The Bengals are great at
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  drafting homegrown defensive player, so they could be able
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  to. They didn't keep them all the
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  time. They were notoriously cheap, but
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  they really build a good defense that way since he's since he's
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  got. Yum Yum.
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  Since he stepped away from the team, which, yeah, it was time.
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  It was over a fresh thing. They outside of Logan Wilson and
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  maybe Jesse Bates like those are the only two homegrown drafted
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  defensive players that they've had.
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  Everything else they accumulated from free agency included Trey
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  Hendrickson. They let go of Carl Lawson, who
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  was the young pass rusher alongside Carlos Dunlap.
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  He is as an injury Riddle career Trey Hendrickson is one of the.
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  Most breaking news? Most durable?
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  And consistently productive defensive lineman and you let
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  and now you're going to let these this relationship be
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  toxic. Sam Hubbard retired this
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  offseason. Who?
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  Was. A good second, 2nd complimentary
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  piece to Hendrickson. They let go DJ Reed or the run
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  defense fell off badly. Meanwhile Detroit became into
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  the top ten losing that. They lost both safeties like
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  they have no direction and you would think like you would see
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  that with especially with all the receivers left in free
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  agency. They could have gotten Amari
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  Cooper for a contract to go alongside Chase and not pay T
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  Higgins could have traded him in the draft.
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  And then they also don't draft as good of defensive players as
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  they could have fished you And I were very skeptical with Stewart
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  and Demetrius Knight in the second round was a fourth round
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  talent. Like they don't really build up
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  this team very well. And who says that they didn't
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  aren't going to deter other defensive players this way.
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  Miles Murphy was a good first round pick, but he hasn't
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  developed a side the same kind of thing.
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  And who says that these want to stay there in this system with
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  the Bengals? I I've been skeptical of Taylor
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  as a whole, but this isn't all his fault.
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  This is ownership too. Wanting a flashier move when you
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  don't need it. This is a team that had a good
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  running. Spin on it, Speedy this.
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  Was a team that had a good running game and a good tight
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  end play last year. Rely on those of your second
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  target and then figure out Higgins later.
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  You had to pay this guy and now you're going to lose him for
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  less than you would have expected.
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  So The thing is they don't have to lose him.
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  They still could pay him. They have enough cap room where
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  they could give him like a pretty decent, you know, size
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  cap hit this first year and fit him under the contract.
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  But they're pinching pennies with this guy.
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  I don't care. The mind, I don't understand.
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  The guy had 17 1/2 sacks in each of the last two seasons.
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  Not me. Reports that they're nitpicking
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  that oh, those sacks were against inferior competition.
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  You know, a lot of the times, well, if you're the second team,
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  all pro, everyone's inferior competition to you.
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  That's how good he is. What are we talking about here?
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  Obviously, you know he's not going to have as many sacks
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  against all pros. No one is.
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  That's just not how it works. And plus, who else is on that
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  defensive line, right that they had to?
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  Gain a lot of first and second round picks.
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  They haven't been able to develop because this
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  organization doesn't want to do it.
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  Clean themselves. Who gets doubled and chipped
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  every single play? Trey Hendrickson.
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  And you wonder why his production was down against
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  certain teams when they knew all they had to do is take care of
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  him. And then they can put up 40
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  points against you and beat you 40 to 38.
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  Because, look, you have a great offense.
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  T Higgins is great. He'd be a #1 receiver on maybe,
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  you know, 8 to 10 other teams in the NFL right now, right?
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  Something like that. Maybe a little bit more, maybe.
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  Maybe I'm being unfair to him. I don't know if I like it.
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  Right around probably at least 10, right?
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  So but why do you pay that? And before him, like I
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  understand maybe they would have lost him if they didn't pay him.
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  They could have figured it out with a franchise tag and then
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  like worked on it again. Like they could have done it
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  temporarily and fixed. It you just made my nipples hard
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  it. Would have been super easy to do
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  that. What do they have against this
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  guy? And if they didn't want to keep
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  Trey Hendrickson, why not trade him before the draft?
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  Pulled it out of my ass. So they really think
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  Hendrickson's just going to come back.
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  We were talking about them being traded last draft.
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  And they started. He says he's not playing on this
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  contract no matter what. And it's going to be a staring
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  contest between a guy who doesn't, you know, he's the
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  captain of the defense, one of the captains of the defense and
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  doesn't want to give up on his team.
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  And they're going to put him in a situation where he may not get
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  paid going forwards like a lot of people do, and he has to risk
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  getting hurt. And we've seen this go wrong for
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  a lot of people and the team is pretty messed up for kind of
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  putting him out there is like a lame duck year in his contract.
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  I also think that when when you look at the Bengals in the
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  division that they're in, they're in a very tough
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  division. And even though Pittsburgh's
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  going to be looking for their quarterback, it looks like it's
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  going to be Aaron Rodgers. Pittsburgh still absolutely
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  loaded when it comes to their defense.
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  They they did lose George Pickens, but it doesn't really
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  matter. They're always a good defensive
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  team. They're always going to be able
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  to compete. Even the Browns with the roster
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  that they have, even the guys that they drafted this year,
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  they had a very good draft. I mean, they added a great
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  defensive lineman and Graham, you put him obviously with Miles
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  Garrett on that defensive line, that's going to be scary.
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  And then they're even though I don't know who's going to be
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  their quarterback and hopefully it's not Mr. Charlie Rod
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  himself. And if it is, he's going to be
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  throwing from the fifth round and probably going to the 6th or
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  7th, if you know what I mean. I just think that right now
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  they're in a division that's very tough.
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  The Baltimore Ravens are by far the best team in that division
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  and and they're they're going to be searching.
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  And I just don't know if this is a smart move by the Bengals when
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  they're trying to compete with those teams that are still going
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  to be able to throw against them.
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  Just think about it. You think the Ravens aren't
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  going to be able to throw against that defense?
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  They don't stand a chance against the Ravens.
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  Who's going to stop, by the way? Who's going to try to catch
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  Lamar Jackson on that defensive line?
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  Nobody. OK.
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  And then you look at the Pittsburgh Steelers, you look at
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  that, what they're capable of doing, if they can dominate Joe
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  Burrow and keep Joe Burrow from throwing the ball, how the hell
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  I'm going to repeat how they going to stop the Pittsburgh
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  Steelers if Aaron Rodgers is there, they've got a running
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  game, they got everything. What are they going to do over
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  there against Pittsburgh? They are to me, if they don't
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  bring Trey Hendrickson back, they don't even, they're not
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  even the second or third best team.
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  They might be. They might just be as bad as the
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  Browns. OK, that's crazy to say that.
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  They might just be as bad as the Browns because at least the
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  Browns have defense and they got guys that can go after you.
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  The Browns are going to keep it close.
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  And you know, the Browns cause havoc to Joe Burrow.
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  Joe Burrow has problems against the Browns every single year.
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  He has problems against Pittsburgh, and he has problems
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  against the Ravens. And now you don't have defense
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  that's going to be able to stop their best players.
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  Oh, boy, this might be a long, long season.
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  And by the way, what did the Bengals do in the draft this
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  year? What did they do?
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  Did they did they help out after the whole Trey Hendrickson
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  thing? No, they did nothing to help
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  out. What they what they're doing to
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  Trey Hendrickson right now? I, I just think I would have
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  jumped. I would have moved up.
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  I would have gotten Graham. I would have done whatever I
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  could to get a great that maybe Abdul Karter, maybe move up at
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  #2 and get Abdul. Karter.
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  His replacement, Errol. They think they're going to
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  replace 35 sacks in the last two years, 17 1/2 in each season
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  with a guy who had 1 1/2 sacks in each of the last three
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  seasons in Texas A&M. That's their plan.
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  Legitimately, that's their plan. They better hope the two they
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  drafted in the other other years are going to hit because that's
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  the philosophy you're going on. But they haven't hit.
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  There's two home grown players since Marvin Lewis has retired,
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  Jesse Bates and Logan Wilson that have been good everyone.
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  Else is free agents. To hope he's the best player
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  against the run anyone's ever seen, ever.
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  Well, pretty much. It's, it's not a good sign if
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  you're a Bengals fan and you shouldn't be happy that your
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  best defensive player is not very happy with your
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  organization. And, and saying that it's going
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  to take a lot for this to be repaired.
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  I, I don't think it's going to be repaired.
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  They're going to have to move him and they're going to have to
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  be lucky to find somebody either in free agency or somebody that
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  gets dropped during OTAs because they're not getting along with
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  teammates or maybe they don't think they don't.
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  The Eagles are loaded. They're loaded.
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  So maybe the Eagles decide, hey, this guy doesn't fit nor we want
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  to go a different route and and they drop one of their mediocre
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  players and maybe they add him, add one of those guys to the the
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  Bengals defensive line. Because they got to get really,
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  really lucky if if Trey Hendrickson decides to part ways
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  and they decide to even move him.
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  And I don't know if they can move him because he's a free
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  agent, right? He's after this year, he's a
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  free agent. That's why I made.
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  More so, they can they can trade him.
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  They could they. Could trade him, but they could.
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  They should have traded him. At the draft Fish, we talked
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  about how the edge rushers were falling to like one of those
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  teams that maybe missed out and maybe didn't take an edge
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  rusher. You couldn't have got to the
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  back end of the first round. I know Jamie Lee wanted one for
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  his Packers, the Packers with the team, I was saying.
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  You're not getting a first round draft pick for.
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  Hendricks they could have at the time, and now they let this get
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  ugly, so now they're not going so.
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  It's you're not getting a first round pick for.
• 18:42
  A second round. A second round you could.
• 18:45
  But you could get a second and maybe like a fifth or something
• 18:48
  like that. And there's a lot of value in
• 18:50
  that, you know, to teams that draft intelligently, unlike the
• 18:54
  Bengals. I I still can't believe they
• 18:57
  went with the project to to replace a proven commodity.
• 19:02
  I just don't understand that. Or do they really?
• 19:05
  Are they really just that cheap and just that brutal of an
• 19:10
  ownership? Well, they're not cheap.
• 19:11
  Look what they gave Jamar, Chase and T Higgins.
• 19:13
  I am not cheap but why are they pinching pennies with this guy
• 19:16
  when they still have cap room to fit them in?
• 19:19
  They could. You know they don't have to put
• 19:20
  the whole cap charge in the first year right?
• 19:23
  Like it's very easy to manipulate that and I don't
• 19:26
  understand why they're not doing that's why team signed guys to
• 19:29
  extensions in the 1st place to manipulate that cap room in that
• 19:32
  first year. Are you telling me you can't fit
• 19:35
  this guy into your roster or you're just going to play it
• 19:38
  down? You're just going to do a
• 19:39
  showdown with him because you in well, you just figure he's not
• 19:43
  going to be good after this year or maybe he's a little overrated
• 19:47
  because stat sacks don't, you know, tell the whole story.
• 19:50
  But maybe second team All Pro tells the whole story.
• 19:53
  Who says this is the only play that's going to happen, too?
• 19:55
  There's other veterans that were frustrated with the contracts,
• 19:57
  too. It's going to be a whole ripple
• 19:58
  effect. All right, boys.
• 20:00
  So we got to move on, as we call this, inside baseball.
• 20:04
  Now let's go deep. Deep inside what?
• 20:08
  I am exciting. This is inside baseball.
• 20:11
  All right, Who's that sexy guy with the pink on Speedy?
• 20:16
  Who's that? Who's that?
• 20:18
  Let me look in the crowd. See.
• 20:20
  You idiot. That's funny so.
• 20:23
  Guys. We are doing inside baseball
• 20:25
  this. Is I need a genuine tonic?
• 20:29
  For baseball stories of the week, and we're going to start
• 20:32
  off with the big, big story that broke almost added in nowhere.
• 20:37
  I was actually on the phone with Errol when it broke.
• 20:38
  Yep, Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson and the entire eight men
• 20:45
  out have been. If you've ever seen the movie or
• 20:47
  even a story about the Black Sox Scandal 1919, we're all
• 20:52
  reinstated to be eligible for the Hall of Fame on Tuesday.
• 20:58
  Field of Dreams, baby. Field of Dreams.
• 21:00
  The Field of Dreams, obviously. You know, famous movie about
• 21:04
  Shoeless Joe Jackson. It's one of my favorite movies
• 21:06
  of all time. Personal.
• 21:08
  Kevin Costner, James Earl Jones. Fantastic.
• 21:11
  It's hard. It's I found it very hard for a
• 21:14
  long time not to tear up watching the end of that movie.
• 21:17
  I think it's one of the best endings of any movie ever.
• 21:20
  But that aside, this was never supposed to happen.
• 21:24
  Never ever supposed to happen. There's a bunch of reasons that
• 21:28
  made that happen. We're not going to get into that
• 21:29
  specifically. But now there's a whole bunch to
• 21:32
  talk about. And if they get in this year,
• 21:35
  and we know Shoeless Joe is probably is, is the big name for
• 21:38
  that. But there were other, a couple
• 21:40
  of other guys, I believe Jabba that were also borderline Hall
• 21:43
  of farmers as well on that in that group.
• 21:46
  They were a World Series team after all.
• 21:48
  So guys, what do you think? Let's start off with what do you
• 21:51
  think about. I mean, we talked about it a
• 21:53
  bunch of times on the. Show Pete Rose.
• 21:56
  Pete Rose should have been a Hall of Famer.
• 21:58
  Pete Rose should have been a Hall of Famer 40 years ago.
• 22:01
  Okay, it's pathetic. Baseball, I understand.
• 22:04
  He bet on baseball. So did Che Otani, and he's still
• 22:07
  playing in the league. OK, I don't want to hear it.
• 22:09
  This guy was to me. I wasn't alive to watch him.
• 22:13
  I I watched Ichiro Suzuki. But you can argue this guy is
• 22:16
  the greatest hitter of all time. 4000 hits.
• 22:18
  He just dominated at the plate. He averaged almost two hits
• 22:21
  every single game. The guy's a special player.
• 22:24
  Now, what he does on and off the field, I don't know.
• 22:27
  What he does on and off the field has nothing to do with
• 22:29
  this game on the field. The fact that he's not in the
• 22:32
  Hall of Fame is despicable baseball.
• 22:34
  Bud Selick should be ashamed of himself.
• 22:36
  How about George Steinburner? What is he going into all Hall
• 22:38
  of Fame? I know Bud Selig sitting pretty
• 22:40
  right there after the whole steroid era.
• 22:42
  I shoeless Joe absolutely should be in the Hall of Fame.
• 22:47
  It it doesn't make any sense now obviously is another one that
• 22:50
  was a part of that scandal. I I understand they made a movie
• 22:53
  about it all these guys, no matter what they did in the
• 22:57
  past, they were important parts of baseball at some point of
• 23:02
  their careers. They were.
• 23:04
  He was shoeless Joe could be arguably one of the greatest
• 23:07
  center fielders of all time. People don't know.
• 23:09
  Kids don't know because guess what?
• 23:11
  He's not in the Hall of Fame. So he deserves to be there.
• 23:14
  And I absolutely believe the one and only Pete Roche believe
• 23:18
  should be there and so many other people that a lot of
• 23:21
  people have held him back from it.
• 23:23
  How about Jeff Kent now? He has nothing to do with this.
• 23:25
  Why isn't Jeff Kent in the Hall of Fame pulling multiple
• 23:28
  positions? He's one of the greatest second
• 23:30
  base second baseman's we ever seen.
• 23:33
  Power wise, can hit, can do everything.
• 23:35
  Why? Cuz he's got a big mouth and
• 23:37
  he's got something to say. So does everybody else.
• 23:40
  I'm sorry I had to do. That yeah, it's the crazy part
• 23:45
  is I don't know if you really delved into this because this
• 23:50
  won't go to vote till December of 27th.
• 23:53
  Yep. So the the Hall of Fame
• 23:55
  committee, so they would actually the first time that
• 23:57
  they would be eligible to go in is they would be in the 28th
• 24:01
  Hall of Fame committee, whatever it is.
• 24:05
  So they, they wouldn't even go in now, which, which is really
• 24:07
  interesting because why, why are you waiting this long if you
• 24:10
  just basically overturned all of this and you're delaying the
• 24:15
  inevitable because the committee, because you got to
• 24:17
  get 12 out of 16 votes. And why is it, why are we
• 24:23
  waiting literally over 2 years as you just announced it and
• 24:28
  we're not even in December yet? Is it's a no, it's a no brainer.
• 24:33
  It really is. I mean, there's, I wouldn't say
• 24:36
  all that because there's 17 total guys that got reinstated
• 24:40
  and I just think they'll, they'll probably more than a
• 24:44
  handful. I wouldn't say we're going to
• 24:47
  get in the double digits, but we're probably going to be, I
• 24:50
  would say in the 6:00-ish range based upon the names obviously
• 24:56
  that were on that list, 22, obviously that should be in
• 25:01
  anyways, without a doubt. Pete did have a chance to get
• 25:07
  in. He he had a meeting and and he
• 25:11
  literally said the same thing. So he kind of put himself back
• 25:14
  into a corner of not being reinstated at the time when he
• 25:17
  had that conversation. And this was this was some years
• 25:20
  ago. But with that being said, he did
• 25:23
  it when he was a manager. He wasn't a player.
• 25:25
  And you know, Shoeless Joe and and obviously that's one of my
• 25:30
  favorite movies too. If you guys haven't seen it yet,
• 25:33
  check that movie out. So those two for sure.
• 25:37
  And I think they'll be about 3 or 4 more others.
• 25:39
  But this was long time overdue. I think this should have been
• 25:43
  done a long time ago. I.
• 25:44
  Think, by the way, I'm sorry to cut you off.
• 25:46
  I, I think Barry Bonds should be getting to be put back on that
• 25:49
  list. Roger Clemens, all those guys
• 25:52
  that did steroids. OK, so that's my point though,
• 25:55
  if they're doing this for guys that were, you know, banned now.
• 25:59
  So now do they go back? Because we've obviously we've
• 26:02
  had this conversation before and everybody has baseball fans and
• 26:05
  baseball people. It's like, OK, the Metro report
• 26:07
  came out, Balco, all the other stuff.
• 26:10
  There are gentlemen that were admitted on that report that are
• 26:14
  in the Hall of Fame. So do they do they create
• 26:18
  another list where it's like, OK, the the steroid era with
• 26:24
  Bonds Clemens, you know? Alex.
• 26:27
  Rodriguez I love Andy Pettitte. He said one time that he did it
• 26:31
  a rod you got. And then there's other there's a
• 26:33
  handful of guys that was Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire.
• 26:38
  Hall of farmers before steroids? No.
• 26:40
  Was Barry Bonds a Hall of Famer before?
• 26:42
  Steroids. Yes, was Rodger Clemens, Yes,
• 26:45
  yes was Andy Pettitte and who admit and of all people that I
• 26:50
  have gotten to know and I'm talking about in general life
• 26:54
  and professional life. That said he did it once.
• 26:58
  I firmly, truly, genuinely believe that.
• 27:01
  And he was coming back off an elbow injury and obviously
• 27:05
  really close friends with Roger at the time.
• 27:07
  And that kind of obviously fell apart based upon things that
• 27:11
  transpired. But that's neither here nor
• 27:13
  there. But this should have been done a
• 27:15
  long time ago. And when it came out, I was
• 27:18
  thinking to myself, so do you create another, I guess you call
• 27:23
  it a category or what have you, where now it's like, OK, we have
• 27:26
  to do this for the steroid era and these guys that got in and
• 27:31
  do we take that into account? So that'll be interesting to see
• 27:34
  how that happens. Obviously, they added the
• 27:37
  committee vote, like Lee Smith not getting in, being one of the
• 27:41
  first guys to get over 400 saves and then having to get in on
• 27:44
  committee vote. I don't know how they feel about
• 27:46
  that. Obviously not being voted in by
• 27:48
  the writers, which who gives a shit honestly.
• 27:51
  So I, it'll be interesting to see how this will transpire or
• 27:56
  if it'll move forward to those guys that are deserving to be
• 27:58
  it, that are basically, we can kind of use a social media term
• 28:03
  like shadow band of like, oh, just because you did this,
• 28:06
  you're not in when these some of the guys were hall of farmers
• 28:10
  before that era even came to fruition.
• 28:13
  And how about George Steinbrenner?
• 28:14
  When? When's he going in?
• 28:16
  I don't understand how a guy like that who?
• 28:18
  Saved. They hold it against him for
• 28:21
  what he did with Winfield. Well, guess what?
• 28:24
  He did a lot more. Than the biggest giving him the
• 28:26
  biggest contractor. And by the way, if you ask and
• 28:30
  if you ask Dave Winfield and by the way, if you know the story,
• 28:34
  when when Steinbrenner was on his deathbed, who went to visit
• 28:38
  him, who was there at his bed when he was practically almost
• 28:43
  dead, It was Dave Winfield. So Dave Winfield actually came
• 28:47
  out. He was one of the guys, him and
• 28:48
  Reggie Jackson were two of the last people that got a chance to
• 28:51
  say goodbye to George Steinbrenner.
• 28:53
  So what does that tell you about George Steinbrenner and how
• 28:55
  close he was with the players after everything happened?
• 28:59
  So I I think it's despicable, but ceiling why is he in all?
• 29:03
  Of you. I just think they always have
• 29:04
  held that against him and they suspended him.
• 29:07
  It wasn't like he was contrite about it.
• 29:09
  You know, it's, it's just something I think and Speedy I,
• 29:13
  I don't know if you, I mean, you're more of our analytics
• 29:16
  guy. You ever look at Shoeless Joe's
• 29:18
  stats? I think I did at the time of the
• 29:21
  movie. I don't think I have since then,
• 29:23
  but yeah, it definitely. Stupid.
• 29:25
  It definitely is Hall of Fame worth it.
• 29:28
  And again, it's a sport full of controversy as it is, so you
• 29:32
  can't nitpick on certain controversies and make it seem
• 29:36
  like it's a big deal. Because I obviously you, if you
• 29:38
  watch the movie, you could tell that there were some pictures
• 29:41
  that were in on it. There were some position players
• 29:42
  that were obviously tanking. If they're part of the scheme,
• 29:44
  OK, that's different. But there's some that we're
• 29:46
  actually trying to hide it because it was mostly ownership
• 29:48
  driven. So I like Jabba was saying,
• 29:50
  might be 4 or five of those guys, especially including
• 29:52
  Shoeless Joe Jackson to get into that.
• 29:54
  I am a legend. And now with Pete Rose,
• 29:56
  especially now that MLB is advocating for betting sites, I
• 30:01
  mean, any people can bet on baseball in certain states that
• 30:03
  are legal with it now. Like you can't all of a sudden
• 30:06
  just take five years where Pete Rose, Oh, now we're discussing
• 30:10
  Hall of Fame eligibility and then two months later he passes
• 30:12
  away. So and then all of a sudden
• 30:14
  they're accepting of the family members talking to him.
• 30:17
  It's just a really bad process. It's a hypocritical league that
• 30:20
  it's always been going through. We've talked about it with the
• 30:22
  organization, the Hall of Fame organization all the time too.
• 30:25
  And it's just a sport full of controversy, like.
• 30:27
  It's part of your history. Well, not, not only did they
• 30:31
  talk to him, they like sent letters and, and did a bunch of
• 30:35
  other stuff. And I just, I think he kind of
• 30:38
  made his, his own bed and was stuck in his own way, which kind
• 30:42
  of, I think kind of detoured it a little bit based upon what I
• 30:46
  know and from experience and talking to guys that had some
• 30:51
  inside knowledge on it. But when it comes down to it, or
• 30:55
  I think what happens to you because there is such a
• 31:00
  humanistic vote on these things that some people take that into
• 31:05
  effect where it's like you see some of these guys not getting
• 31:09
  100% votes that are are first ballot Hall of Farmers.
• 31:13
  And we've only. And if you think about all the
• 31:15
  amazing players we've had that are first ballot, no brainers
• 31:21
  and we've had one and we got idiots that are still out here
• 31:25
  like, oh, I didn't vote for Derek Jeter because I thought he
• 31:30
  was already in. Ichiro doesn't get 100%.
• 31:34
  I mean, guys that 100% played in the era that didn't even come
• 31:38
  close to, you know, 95%. And when you get that human
• 31:44
  dynamic into it, I think that really plays a part in certain
• 31:48
  things because they can't put that other stuff aside and just
• 31:51
  be like, hey, let me specifically look at numbers and
• 31:54
  what those are. And like I said, it'll be
• 31:57
  interesting to see if they if this gets legs on the other side
• 32:02
  of like, OK, now at IA, 100% agree.
• 32:06
  Shut up, shut up. Butt plug bagel hole and butt
• 32:15
  plug bagel hole. Is a great punk rock band name.
• 32:19
  Yum, Yum. Yeah, So it it'll be, it'll be
• 32:21
  interesting to see. And I just hate.
• 32:25
  Why are they waiting so long? Yeah, it's.
• 32:28
  Interesting, why are they waiting till the committee
• 32:32
  meets? Like you're act like you got.
• 32:34
  You've already created the committee.
• 32:35
  They already know it. This already got approved.
• 32:39
  Why are you waiting 2 1/2 years? A lot of hot ladies, the 28 Hall
• 32:45
  of Fame class that that, that doesn't make sense.
• 32:49
  This makes sense to me that they reinstated it, but it doesn't
• 32:52
  make sense to me that they're waiting till 2027.
• 32:54
  Interesting. All right, let's move on to our
• 32:59
  our the captain of the New York Yankees.
• 33:01
  Yup, Aaron Judge, 43 games through the season.
• 33:06
  Here's the stats. 412 batting average, 15 home runs to lead
• 33:11
  Major League Baseball. Obviously 412 leads to the
• 33:15
  league as well. Forty runs, 41 RB is an OPS of
• 33:20
  1.279, a four point O WAR with 43 games.
• 33:25
  So he's on pace for like just like around 15 plus WAR and he's
• 33:29
  got a WRC plus A 252. Barry Bonds 244 is the all time
• 33:35
  record at the end of the season. It's hard to even put into words
• 33:41
  at this point, but I guess let's let's all try in a different
• 33:45
  way. So Speedy, I'm going to go
• 33:47
  backwards. I want you to tell me what is
• 33:49
  the most impressive stat you think.
• 33:52
  You're asking a Met fan. All.
• 33:57
  The stats, it has to be the WRC because that's supposed to be
• 34:02
  like everyone's saying, oh the Yankees get away with stuff
• 34:05
  because they hit in Yankee Stadium.
• 34:06
  Meanwhile that's supposed to neutralize the ballparks.
• 34:08
  That's supposed to neutralize like the most consistent league
• 34:11
  factors to go along with it. If you're saying Barry Bonds is
• 34:14
  244 of a single season is the all time record and probably
• 34:18
  similar to some great hitters career numbers, 20 points up, 30
• 34:23
  points up from that, like that has to be the most impressive 1.
• 34:26
  Obviously the WAR is going to fluctuate over the time of the
• 34:28
  year. When Ryan Spader's been on our
• 34:30
  show, he's discussed that sometimes they change the way
• 34:32
  the metrics work with that, but WRC is going to be a constant
• 34:35
  thing than any any type of plus stat is always a big boost to
• 34:39
  any top end player like that. Errol, what do you think he
• 34:44
  finishes at this year? I want him to finish at 400.
• 34:48
  Everybody has said that. Nobody since Ted Williams will
• 34:51
  ever end up with 400 or more at, at the batting average, but he's
• 34:56
  doing something that we haven't seen in a very, very long time.
• 34:59
  I, I think it's very, it's incredible.
• 35:00
  And you could pick any stat, every single stat on that list.
• 35:04
  He's he's definitely the Triple Crown winner.
• 35:06
  If it continues moving forward with the numbers that he has,
• 35:10
  it's incredible. Because me and Jabba, what was
• 35:12
  it a couple of months ago arguing who's the best player
• 35:15
  right now in baseball? He had Otani and I had Judge.
• 35:18
  I don't think there's an argument right now on what Aaron
• 35:20
  Judge is doing over the last three years, comparison to
• 35:24
  Otani, who's been one of the best players in the league.
• 35:26
  If you compare all these guys numbers are the top players,
• 35:29
  even Mike Trout over the last 10 years, nobody's done what Aaron
• 35:33
  Judge has done in the last three years.
• 35:34
  It's it's incredible what he's putting up right now and he's
• 35:38
  clean. As far as what we know, he's
• 35:39
  clean. He's a clean player.
• 35:41
  So he's big, 6 foot 85 tool player, a guy that didn't get
• 35:46
  called up by the New York Yankees until he was 2425 years
• 35:49
  old and now didn't take the the most money he could.
• 35:52
  He could have taken $500 million.
• 35:55
  He is by far better than Juan Soto or any of these guys that
• 35:59
  got the money that they got, even Shay Otani, but he took
• 36:02
  less. He took 300 and what, 89 or
• 36:05
  $390,000,000 to stay with the Yankees because he wants to be a
• 36:09
  Yankee. He wants to win with the
• 36:10
  Yankees. It's an incredible story.
• 36:13
  He's a great kid. Any I've never met him, but
• 36:16
  anybody that's told me who's met him, even Nick Goody tells me
• 36:20
  not only is he a good kid, he stands for what you want a
• 36:24
  Yankee to stand for as a captain, as a face of baseball.
• 36:27
  He's everything you want. And and that's what you expect
• 36:30
  from a captain of arguably the greatest franchise in in
• 36:33
  professional sports history. I love it.
• 36:36
  He's such a he's, he's such a Good Samaritan too.
• 36:39
  I love what he's doing right now for baseball and he he has your
• 36:42
  eyes locked in win or lose with the New York Yankees is what is
• 36:46
  Aaron Judge putting up every single game.
• 36:49
  So it's fun to watch. Jabba what?
• 36:53
  What's it like to play with somebody who's on a heater like
• 36:57
  this? Like obviously this is historic
• 37:00
  what he's doing, but like when a guy's getting like going, just
• 37:03
  like everything drops in, everything's like a great barrel
• 37:08
  on it up or on the other side of the mound, you know, just you're
• 37:12
  hitting your spots every single time.
• 37:14
  There's so much movement. It's like you surprising
• 37:16
  yourself, like when you play with someone like that or I
• 37:19
  mean, when you've had those times as well.
• 37:22
  But like when someone's on a heater, like what's it like
• 37:24
  being around them? What's it like, you know, when
• 37:27
  you're like that? And you know, how did people
• 37:29
  treat you in those situations? You just let them go.
• 37:33
  You don't really do anything. You kind of just let him because
• 37:38
  I did obviously whatever they're doing work in.
• 37:41
  If you know, he decided to eat a peanut butter and spam sandwich
• 37:45
  and get it to him every day, like you just don't, you don't
• 37:48
  change it up. And you as a player and baseball
• 37:50
  players are superstitious as it comes that they you know, they
• 37:55
  eat the same thing, they do the same thing.
• 37:57
  And it's just so fun to watch because you just you expect it.
• 38:02
  It it's weird because you then expect like them to always get a
• 38:06
  hit come through and like when you then you're surprised.
• 38:09
  Usually it's the other way around.
• 38:11
  But I think what's more impressive too is like obviously
• 38:13
  almost two months into the season, still be hitting over
• 38:16
  400, which is impressive. His WRC, which has now become a
• 38:21
  huge conglomerate in the game of baseball.
• 38:24
  But if you look at his last 62 or 162 games, he's hitting over
• 38:28
  360 with 65 homers and over 140 RBI's.
• 38:32
  And just to carry that over and, and continue to, and it wasn't
• 38:38
  like it was just one year. It's like, you know, he had an
• 38:41
  offseason and then he gets in his own head or, you know, so
• 38:45
  many things can happen, right? And for him to just continue to
• 38:50
  do it. I I think what the most
• 38:51
  impressive thing is, is how he handles himself first and
• 38:55
  foremost with all the attention. And I think it's almost, I think
• 39:00
  he's like the second or third longest to carry a 400 plus
• 39:04
  batting average to start a season.
• 39:06
  And do I think it's realistic to hit 400?
• 39:11
  No. Do I think he'll get close?
• 39:16
  He'll be he'll end the year at 360 ish if he continues the way
• 39:24
  that he's going. But then it just also there's.
• 39:27
  If he does that, it's the greatest, one of the greatest
• 39:29
  seasons of all time if he does that.
• 39:31
  Yeah, and it depends. I I had this argument with, with
• 39:33
  all the fans and, and stuff on X Twitter, whatever you guys call
• 39:37
  it. And it was like, what's his
• 39:39
  number? Because when he hit 62, I
• 39:42
  predicted it. And you know, we had that
• 39:45
  conversation because I was like, realistically, what do you think
• 39:47
  you got? Like, is he going to continue
• 39:50
  this pace? Is he going and and everybody
• 39:53
  goes through slumps. Nobody is going to if he if he
• 39:57
  does this all year and hits four O 8 with 65 and 100 and it's
• 40:01
  it's the greatest season ever. But is that realistic?
• 40:04
  No, it's not. And you know, he's he's going to
• 40:08
  get his strikeouts. He's had three strikeout games
• 40:11
  and you know, his average felt like 380, but then he goes 3 for
• 40:14
  four. He goes 3 for three.
• 40:17
  And he's just, he hasn't fell into that like slump he's had.
• 40:22
  He's had some off games, but what he's been, and this is one
• 40:27
  thing why he didn't get up as early as a lot of people thought
• 40:31
  he would was because his plate's on discipline and the things
• 40:35
  that he was doing. But he's become such a better
• 40:37
  hitter and he's 33 years old right now and he's continually
• 40:41
  got better. Hey Jabba, do you know what his
• 40:43
  strikeout percentage is this year?
• 40:45
  It's his best ever, by a lot. That's that's that was exactly
• 40:49
  my point is like he can one. Percent.
• 40:51
  This yeah. And he continues to get better
• 40:53
  with his strike zone discipline of not swinging balls out of the
• 40:57
  zone. And you know, it's just tough.
• 41:00
  He's he's going to, he's going to get the Barry Bonds
• 41:02
  treatment. And I remember a great story.
• 41:06
  Well, I can't remember who was telling it, but he got like 8
• 41:08
  pitches to hit and got walked like 7 time, intentionally
• 41:13
  walked seven times and he hit five home runs and he literally
• 41:16
  got like 7 or 8 pitches to hit. And so he's going to get, he's
• 41:20
  going to start getting that treatment and he's not going to
• 41:23
  miss him. And he hasn't been missing him.
• 41:25
  And I think that's just a kudos to him in understanding parts of
• 41:29
  his game where as he's gotten older, he's gotten better.
• 41:35
  And I I understand early on in your career where you know, not
• 41:38
  a lot of people know you and you know, you have those hot years.
• 41:41
  But I'm so impressed with him, not only from and and I didn't
• 41:46
  get to know him. I actually was fortunate enough
• 41:47
  when I was rehabbing my elbow, one of my rehab guys was
• 41:52
  actually a Fresno State with him and they were like, he was
• 41:55
  always that guy. He always worked hard you.
• 41:58
  He was always the biggest dude. I mean, he won the College World
• 42:02
  Series, Home Run Derby and so everybody knew who he was and
• 42:05
  just obviously at stature wise you're gonna know who.
• 42:09
  But for me, the most impressive thing is to see how he's not
• 42:12
  rested on his laurels like when he got the contract.
• 42:15
  He's continued to get better. And for somebody like that, and
• 42:19
  especially with the eyes on him that are like, if this is
• 42:23
  happening, and no disrespect to the smaller market teams by any
• 42:26
  means, and I don't mean it this way, but if this is, and I say
• 42:30
  the same thing for myself because if I did what I did in
• 42:32
  Milwaukee, nobody would have cared.
• 42:34
  But I did it in the biggest media market in the world.
• 42:36
  And he continues to do it and he continues to get better and
• 42:39
  handles himself in such professional manner and being
• 42:42
  what it is, where like Errol said, he could have gone and got
• 42:46
  more money, but he knew the importance of what it was and
• 42:50
  obviously the opportunities that New York creates.
• 42:53
  But yet he continues to get better and better every year in
• 42:57
  certain areas of his game. And there's certain areas where
• 43:00
  he he didn't excel at that year. And now, like you just said,
• 43:04
  21%, that's his best yet. And he's been in the big leagues
• 43:08
  for how many years, folks? And he's 33 years old.
• 43:12
  It's not like, you know, he's Sodo and came in when he was 20
• 43:16
  years old. He's been in the big leagues for
• 43:19
  over 7 years and he continuously gets better and that's the thing
• 43:24
  that I just respect the crap out of him for, of finding little
• 43:29
  holes in his game that he can become.
• 43:32
  Wasn't a great outfielder at first.
• 43:34
  What did he do? He worked at it and he did the
• 43:38
  things that he did, the small things to make his game
• 43:41
  complete. You know, he's never going to be
• 43:44
  a, you know, A50 stolen base guy, but he's going to get you
• 43:49
  15 and he still has the threat to be able to steal a base when
• 43:53
  need be. And I just he, he's so fun to
• 43:56
  watch. He it's, he's one of those guys
• 44:00
  like even if you're not a Yankees fan and there's not a
• 44:03
  lot, it's either you hate them or love them one way or the
• 44:05
  other. But he's one of those guys it's
• 44:07
  hard not to root for just because of the way he carries
• 44:10
  himself and how he's made his. Game is a Yankee 6 foot 8 and
• 44:14
  he's. He's made the game of baseball
• 44:16
  fun, feel like a machine when you got guys literally like that
• 44:21
  don't talk baseball and they're they're cutting in on an event.
• 44:26
  It was some was it conference championship of football or
• 44:30
  whatever. They're cutting in to see if
• 44:32
  he's going to break the record and hit a home run like that.
• 44:35
  You're doing something. This this dude is special and I
• 44:39
  I wish he can stay healthy. He's had some weird freak
• 44:41
  injuries getting hit on the hand his.
• 44:44
  Toe Not for the last two years. I mean, except the toll he's
• 44:48
  been, he's been pretty damn good and he's played consistently and
• 44:52
  that's what you want to see. What's your best player so.
• 44:54
  All right, let's let's move on in the inside baseball and we're
• 44:58
  going to get to the injury report, Couple of ones I'm just
• 45:01
  going to mention and some guys coming back, Roki Sasaki, the
• 45:06
  big import from Japan. Bust.
• 45:10
  It's a flamethrower. Not only bust, but damaged
• 45:14
  goods. It looks like his shoulder might
• 45:16
  be shot. They were saying that they were.
• 45:19
  He was having arm trouble last year.
• 45:21
  He didn't have a great seat season coming over, at least to
• 45:25
  his standards. The velocity dip, Jabba.
• 45:29
  And that's when you know, so we had that one and I just kind of
• 45:34
  wanted you to touch on that because you mentioned that
• 45:36
  before, Jabba. You know, when that's kind of
• 45:39
  the real indicator of something going wrong.
• 45:42
  Yeah, and it's it's tough because it and it's weird to
• 45:47
  like and shout out to AL's Waldo and his I know the feeling.
• 45:53
  Hopefully he gets better quick and and, you know, gets that all
• 45:57
  all situated. That was kind of gruesome, that
• 45:59
  slide in the home plate. But these like when they do like
• 46:03
  shoulder impingement and you know, we're going to touch on
• 46:06
  another one in Tanner and a extra strain.
• 46:08
  Like we, we all know, we've all heard these things and you know,
• 46:13
  we all saw the injury at home plate and they, they put them on
• 46:16
  the 10 dev just put them on the 60 day.
• 46:18
  It's all literally roster moves and how they're going to do it.
• 46:22
  And I get the insurance and outs of that too.
• 46:24
  Why they just say 10? Because if you put them on the
• 46:26
  60 day, then you can bring a guy up from the 40 man.
• 46:29
  Who would they bring up? Don't know, obviously getting DJ
• 46:32
  back in those things. But with Rokie, it's just it's
• 46:37
  different because their workloads are completely
• 46:39
  different in the States than they are in Japan because
• 46:42
  they're once a week guys in Japan.
• 46:45
  And now it's it's different because they're throwing their
• 46:48
  bullpens earlier. They may get an extra day, but
• 46:53
  it's it's not the workload that they're used to and how they
• 46:57
  have prepared themselves for, you know, the big leagues.
• 47:01
  Obviously they got over here for a reason and talented arm.
• 47:04
  But now once you completely change up your routine, it's
• 47:09
  hard to adjust, especially coming into the expectations and
• 47:14
  things of that nature where that's something a lot of people
• 47:17
  don't think about, where he's coming in with all of these
• 47:22
  standards of what he did in Japan.
• 47:24
  Well, we've seen how it's worked for some guys, it hasn't worked
• 47:28
  for others. And you see, like when Dice K
• 47:32
  came in and he'd invented the Gyro Ball, you're like, it's
• 47:35
  just an inverted like, what did he talk about?
• 47:38
  Like? It was like a slurp known
• 47:40
  before. That's what it was.
• 47:41
  It was like a slurp. But it was opposite because he
• 47:44
  just extra pronated. It's like it's like the, I hate
• 47:48
  to even mention it, but it's like the Airbender with Devin
• 47:51
  Williams. Like just no, it's it's just a
• 47:53
  really inverted change up. Like it's not like this hasn't
• 47:56
  been thrown before. Yeah, it's just different.
• 47:59
  Type of change up. So it just when it says
• 48:03
  impingement, I mean, that could be labrum, that could be rotator
• 48:06
  cuff, that could be scap, it could be numerous things.
• 48:10
  And you don't really know until it comes, comes out of of what
• 48:15
  the MRI says. And if he gets an Arthur Graham
• 48:17
  to see if you know there is a 10 and you could, you could MRI
• 48:21
  every pitcher and, and mostly probably everybody that's ever
• 48:24
  played sports. And there's something wrong with
• 48:26
  the shoulder just from basketball players and doing
• 48:29
  overhead motion stuff, weight lifters where you know, you're
• 48:33
  labrums, a little piece of like tissue that is in between the
• 48:38
  ball and socket joint that just from use it.
• 48:42
  There's going to be fray, there's going to it's just going
• 48:44
  to happen. So to, to what extent is it like
• 48:48
  I went on the DL in O 8 for the same thing and mine, mine was
• 48:52
  40% torn, but I missed two starts and that was it.
• 48:56
  So some people handle it better than others, but it'll, I don't
• 49:01
  think this will just be a 15 day.
• 49:02
  It it, it'll be at least a month like I maybe even more to be
• 49:06
  honest with you. All right, let's go to Errol.
• 49:11
  I'm going to go speedy. I'm going to come back to you in
• 49:13
  a second. I want to ask you about Tanner
• 49:14
  Hawk a little bit and she's somebody that's a little real
• 49:19
  sneaky, underrated player in the league.
• 49:21
  But Errol, the Braves are getting Acuna and Strider back
• 49:25
  real soon. Acuna is up at AAA in the last
• 49:27
  phase of his rehab right now. He did apologize to manager
• 49:32
  Brian Snitker for, you know, the comment about Kelnick not
• 49:36
  running and how he if it was him, he would have been benched.
• 49:40
  He said he was sorry. He's very contrite.
• 49:42
  Seems like they're all good. What is this?
• 49:45
  We know that NL East is a big time division and the Braves
• 49:50
  come back with these two guys. Absolutely, absolutely.
• 49:54
  I, I don't know if it's going to fix management and obviously
• 49:59
  Acuna. Acuna is a great player.
• 50:01
  If, if, if anything, it, it does help him come back so we can get
• 50:05
  back on the field and hopefully it'll, if he's playing good
• 50:08
  baseball and he and, and he's doing what he's supposed to be
• 50:10
  doing on the baseball field, nobody's going to worry about
• 50:13
  what he said about the manager. Nobody's going to worry about it
• 50:16
  because it's all about winning. Schrider is so very important to
• 50:19
  that, that pitching staff. He's one of the best, most
• 50:21
  dynamic young pitchers in baseball.
• 50:23
  So he adds A dynamic to that roster and that rotation.
• 50:27
  So he's going to play a big part.
• 50:28
  Why couldn't they come back? We've seen the Braves in the
• 50:31
  second-half completely dominate over the years.
• 50:34
  They got a tremendous amount of young talent on that roster.
• 50:37
  You had a pitcher that good and you had a a player in the lineup
• 50:41
  that can, you know, do you know, play lead off, play at lead off.
• 50:45
  I don't know if he's going to be a good outfielder if he's ever
• 50:47
  going to play in the outfield again at at the top of his game,
• 50:50
  but he is a tremendous hitter and I, I hopefully he stays away
• 50:54
  from stealing bases. Now he needs to protect himself.
• 50:56
  But they are dynamic. Both players are dynamic.
• 50:59
  One at the on the rotation and he's probably as good as any
• 51:04
  pitcher and young pitcher in baseball and the other guy
• 51:07
  dynamic. This guy was an MVP, the MVP
• 51:10
  candidate for what, the past five years when he's in the
• 51:13
  lineup? So 2 dynamic plays absolutely
• 51:16
  can come back and be a scary, scary team if these guys come
• 51:21
  back at the top of their games. Yeah, for sure as Strider,
• 51:26
  someone that I've been following since the first game for the
• 51:28
  league, Kunya, we'll see if he can come back.
• 51:31
  I don't think he's going to run as much.
• 51:32
  He doesn't have to. After those leg injuries, but
• 51:36
  he's still going to be very good players speeding.
• 51:39
  What does Tanner help mean to that?
• 51:41
  That staff over there. Yeah, it definitely looked off
• 51:46
  at the start of the year and a lot and a lot, a lot of big like
• 51:48
  dogs when he's had dogs this year.
• 51:51
  And I think for somebody that has a lot of good pitching,
• 51:54
  Arsenal has a good strikeout rate in previous years, you
• 51:56
  would think this would be the uptick.
• 51:58
  Obviously Crochet got all the hype with the the trade in the
• 52:00
  offseason and they have other good youngsters too, but a lot
• 52:02
  of them were hurt. So it was thought that maybe he
• 52:05
  was going to be the kind of that second guy to be like a 2A type
• 52:08
  thing in that rotation while those guys were hurt, but has
• 52:11
  not been the same. And now you're kind of seeing
• 52:13
  why a lot of this stuff has regressed this year.
• 52:15
  But again, there's still weather in the storm at the time being.
• 52:17
  There's a lot of mediocrity in the American League right now.
• 52:19
  So there's still a lot of time for them to rally back.
• 52:23
  Well, especially, especially in the East, there's only one team
• 52:25
  above 500, and that's the Yankees.
• 52:27
  Yeah. The just commenting on what you
• 52:30
  said before, Errol Braves are actually 500.
• 52:33
  They got to 500 today after the how they started.
• 52:37
  That kind of gives you a little bit of a heads up, you know, six
• 52:41
  games now behind the Mets, 3 1/2 behind the Phillies.
• 52:45
  And you know the Mets and you know the Mets are going to
• 52:48
  eventually hit a skid, but they're going to lose night out
• 52:52
  of a 12 games. I, I don't and I'm I'm not a met
• 52:55
  hater. I actually root on the Mets.
• 52:57
  I want the Mets to play well. They're not no threat to the
• 53:00
  Yankees. I could care less, but I
• 53:02
  eventually they're going to hit a skid and I, I do believe it's
• 53:05
  going to happen in the second-half of the season.
• 53:07
  I don't trust they're pitching the Braves.
• 53:09
  If Strider comes back, they could be scary.
• 53:13
  That rotation could be scary. Which Strider in the lead guy
• 53:17
  over there on that rotation, he doesn't even have to pitch 5 1/2
• 53:20
  innings and he's still dangerous even 2 times around the route,
• 53:24
  you know, a line up. I I think the Braves absolutely
• 53:27
  with the talent that they have, could, could be, I don't know if
• 53:31
  they're the number one seed in the, in the American, I mean in
• 53:34
  National League East, but they're right there.
• 53:36
  They can compete against any of those teams.
• 53:39
  Both will be back. Strider, they said he's going to
• 53:42
  pitch sometime middle of the week this week.
• 53:44
  He's he's not going to take another rehab start.
• 53:47
  He did a simulated game through 65 pitches.
• 53:49
  So he'll probably be limited in his first start back, but he's
• 53:53
  going to be back and Acuna is a AAA probably end of the week for
• 53:56
  Acuna as well. They're going to be back.
• 53:59
  Schrider's not going to lose a game for the rest of the season,
• 54:02
  Mark my words. That guy does.
• 54:04
  The team hopes that guy is. We're going to get into some
• 54:09
  highlights and this was a great ejection, one of the best that
• 54:14
  I've seen in a while. Tori Levolo, who before he got
• 54:18
  back into Major League Baseball and became a manager of the
• 54:20
  year, he's coaching right around the corner by me, by the
• 54:23
  Rockland Boulders over here in Rockland County and was really
• 54:27
  great there. So take a look at this.
• 54:29
  There's some. Weird, like the shortstop gets
• 54:33
  in the way of the base runner. They don't call it.
• 54:36
  He loses his mind. He gets ejected.
• 54:38
  He throws each one of them out one by one himself, You know, in
• 54:45
  revenge, you know, you ever revenge throw out like, no,
• 54:48
  you're, you're fired. No, you're fired.
• 54:51
  And they want to take this away from baseball?
• 54:54
  They're idiots. This.
• 54:55
  Is so fun to watch. I had this argument too.
• 54:57
  Like I like, I love that. Like there have been times where
• 55:01
  we've been in a game and it's, you know, it's not cutting time
• 55:05
  and where your coach sticks up for you and it lights a fire and
• 55:11
  then you end up coming back. I can think of 3 or 4 right off
• 55:15
  the top of my head that I've actually been personally in
• 55:18
  where you're like, all right, I see this going and you know, it
• 55:23
  was that it was the call against Dominguez the other day and
• 55:27
  Boone gets thrown and 100% right because the inning before he
• 55:33
  literally didn't give the same pitch.
• 55:36
  And the the crappy part about all of this is their egos are
• 55:42
  and I went off, I went off on Twitter and I was like, I get
• 55:47
  the human element of it and I get ABS is coming in and all the
• 55:51
  other stuff. But I love a good argument.
• 55:54
  I love it because it can help a team in so many different ways.
• 55:57
  And I was fortunate enough and like I said, to play for guys
• 56:02
  that stuck up for their team and they were players.
• 56:06
  They understood the game and what that means in certain
• 56:09
  situations where it can get you going.
• 56:11
  There are somewhere it can kind of backfire, but when you see
• 56:15
  these and it's, it's like, all right, he has our back.
• 56:18
  He's sticking up for us. It's not just like, oh, he's
• 56:21
  just doing it just to do it. No, he's protecting us.
• 56:25
  He's sticking up for us. And when you go out there and
• 56:28
  you see the passion that they have, it's just not a robot
• 56:31
  being a manager listening to the front office or doing this and
• 56:34
  you know you're going to get ran because as soon as this came,
• 56:37
  you can't question umpire, you're going to get thrown out.
• 56:40
  But then when they start barking back at you, one thing that I
• 56:44
  really wish they would do, but their union is really, really
• 56:47
  strong be held accountable. They all get recordings of their
• 56:53
  games like go watch it. Like if I ask you just to go
• 56:57
  look at these pitches, Don't just take your check and go
• 57:00
  home. Greatest one ever is Wally back
• 57:02
  then. Yes, that is 100% right.
• 57:05
  How he how he throws the rosin bag and gets it right where it
• 57:09
  is. There's no, it couldn't be
• 57:11
  anybody, but like just be accountable.
• 57:14
  Like I get you're going to mess up IA 100% going to get it, but
• 57:20
  you've got to have some accountability where it's just
• 57:26
  we have to answer questions when we screw up.
• 57:29
  You're just as much a part of the game as we are.
• 57:32
  Some of you think you're a bigger part of the game than the
• 57:35
  damn game itself. Yeah, one of them just retired
• 57:38
  like that. No, Mr. Angel.
• 57:41
  Mr. Angel himself. Oh God.
• 57:43
  I mean, love the arms that make the sound effects that you can
• 57:47
  hear audibly like, oh God. And then like they do like some
• 57:52
  kind of Chuck. Noise.
• 57:52
  I need a gin and tonic. I don't remember who it was and
• 57:56
  I remember there wasn't a fire there.
• 57:58
  What I need? What?
• 57:58
  He called the strike you. It's like strike you.
• 58:00
  When I'm listening, I'm thinking about Angel.
• 58:02
  OK. That was Jim Joyce that.
• 58:04
  Was Jim Joyce OK all? Right.
• 58:07
  So I got one more highlight. I'll get an actual play and this
• 58:10
  one. This was pretty crazy.
• 58:13
  This is why. Smell my ass to.
• 58:14
  Run over and help your fellow outfielder if the ball is not
• 58:19
  going to you because this is what happened in the Tigers
• 58:22
  Boston game. We have a deep fly ball.
• 58:24
  The right field outfielder goes and brings it back, doesn't
• 58:28
  catch it, bounces it back to the center fielder who catches it
• 58:31
  of. Course it had something to do
• 58:32
  with Boston. Work together to prevent a home
• 58:36
  run. I don't know if I ever saw that
• 58:38
  one. Here's No, I don't think so.
• 58:41
  It hits him in the glove, but since he was covering for him,
• 58:44
  he was right there. And you think that was planned?
• 58:48
  Avoid him too. He was that was not planned.
• 58:50
  That bounced out of his glove. I'm.
• 58:52
  Just saying. He was saying This is why you go
• 58:55
  and and back up your outfielder. I've seen it, I've seen it.
• 58:59
  It's A tag team play. Right.
• 59:01
  I've seen it once. I've seen it happen where like a
• 59:05
  line drive like. I'm not doing a for your tag
• 59:08
  team. Once in person, it was a line
• 59:12
  drive that hit off a shoe that didn't hit the ground and went
• 59:17
  to the third baseman. They got a double play.
• 59:18
  That's the only one I've ever seen in person.
• 59:21
  I've obviously seen since then. Yeah, I feel like.
• 59:23
  It's yeah, I mean, yeah, but those ones you don't see very
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  often. There's there's some you see
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  where, you know, it's a diving thing and he catches, flops up
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  and then the outfielder comes from the infielder going out to
• 59:36
  the outfield and then coming in. So that's that's credit that
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  that's the things that people don't understand about the game
• 59:44
  is he's doing his job. He's attacking the baseball.
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  But OK, so say he misses it hits off the wall, he goes against
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  the wall, but at least he's there, you know, to be able to
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  either keep him to a double or not extend, you know, an extra
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  base. And those are the little things
• 1:00:00
  that people don't see that don't respect.
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  Yeah, that turned out great. But even if it didn't, he was
• 1:00:05
  right there and didn't catch it, he would still be able to get
• 1:00:07
  the ball in in. You know, that's, that's just
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  the little things in baseball that I love that a lot of
• 1:00:12
  people, you know, don't recognize as a baseball play.
• 1:00:18
  And and that's that's why I love the game.
• 1:00:20
  I'm just. Going to finish off this
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  baseball segment, I'm sorry, just letting it roll and we're
• 1:00:26
  going to take a look at these hot and cold teams, but let's
• 1:00:28
  get to speedy first before. We yeah, I was going.
• 1:00:30
  To say Keith Hernandez always brings up the fundies, that is
• 1:00:33
  broadcast for fun, those are all the little things like
• 1:00:35
  outfielders. You got to put your own.
• 1:00:37
  Territory, stuff like that, you don't usually see it like that,
• 1:00:39
  but Java, you're actually exactly, absolutely right.
• 1:00:41
  That's why you track it. You don't want to leave an
• 1:00:43
  isolated fielder like that. So the hottest team in all of
• 1:00:49
  baseball is the Minnesota Twins. I did not realize that that they
• 1:00:53
  were playing this well until I I saw this stat.
• 1:00:55
  They kept losing close ones in the beginning so it was bound to
• 1:00:58
  happen. Well, maybe it's positive
• 1:01:00
  regression, but 10 game heaters, 10 game heater, they're right
• 1:01:04
  back into the thick of things in the Central.
• 1:01:07
  Cleveland's been playing really well in the Central, but you
• 1:01:10
  know, they don't really even have much of AI, think they
• 1:01:13
  still have a negative run differential.
• 1:01:15
  So again, a lot of close games. That usually means we have a lot
• 1:01:19
  of teams that are around the same talent level all playing
• 1:01:22
  each other. It's going to be a slugfest in
• 1:01:23
  that. Division chicks with Dicks.
• 1:01:25
  All year and but Detroit seems to be really tough as well
• 1:01:29
  because they're eight and two and the Saint Louis Cardinals,
• 1:01:32
  guys, we said this earlier in the year, you know, Nolan
• 1:01:35
  Arenado, someone everyone wanted and guess what?
• 1:01:38
  Saint Louis wants them too. And they might be doing some
• 1:01:41
  things. A couple of good young players
• 1:01:43
  over there. Lars New Bar, who would play for
• 1:01:46
  Japan in the last Baseball Classic.
• 1:01:49
  I believe he's their lead off hitter.
• 1:01:52
  He's starting to come into his own.
• 1:01:54
  Mason Wynn is their hot, is their top shortstop prospect
• 1:01:57
  who's now recently started heating up as well.
• 1:02:01
  He's someone I've been paying attention to for a while.
• 1:02:03
  Where's goodie when you need him, by the way?
• 1:02:05
  Well, how are the Reds doing? Yeah, I figured that's what I.
• 1:02:08
  Am it's not the same team. Cincinnati, What are you talking
• 1:02:12
  about? I'm talking it's.
• 1:02:13
  Going to get cold for them to get hot.
• 1:02:15
  I was still talking hot, but cold.
• 1:02:17
  Well, we know the Rockies are going.
• 1:02:18
  To be honest, I just, I wish Goody was here because I'd like
• 1:02:21
  to shove that down his throat. Mr. Terry, do we just do a
• 1:02:24
  permanent list of like when we do?
• 1:02:26
  The cold teams, they're horrible.
• 1:02:28
  Just like, leave them on there. Straight.
• 1:02:30
  Down Cincinnati to stay there, but the Orioles, I mean.
• 1:02:33
  What is this love fest for Cincinnati?
• 1:02:36
  I'm just telling you guys, I I don't think Cincinnati's that
• 1:02:40
  good. The Orioles, I already told you
• 1:02:42
  what I thought they were. They lost Hunter Green, You know
• 1:02:44
  Hunter. One guy is not going to make you
• 1:02:47
  lose as many games as they had in a row.
• 1:02:49
  OK, come on, he was. Pitching like Garrett?
• 1:02:51
  Cole, it's one player that's once every five games.
• 1:02:55
  You think one pitch is going to change everything?
• 1:02:57
  Come on, man. If the Cincin.
• 1:02:59
  Is worth 6 war that means he's. Worth, all right?
• 1:03:01
  Garrett Cole's not part of this rotation and the Yankees are
• 1:03:04
  still winning, are they not? We don't know that.
• 1:03:10
  How do we know Garricko doesn't start the season golf?
• 1:03:12
  I'm. Saying that's the stats.
• 1:03:13
  That's how stats work, Errol. Well, screw the stats.
• 1:03:17
  Here's what I'm going to say. Cincinnati stinks.
• 1:03:20
  The Oreo stinks. Colorado stinks.
• 1:03:25
  They all freaking stink. They're horrible, and they're
• 1:03:28
  not going anywhere this year. Sell that platter that up and
• 1:03:32
  stick it in a box and send it to Speedy's mom.
• 1:03:35
  Right Speedy? How about?
• 1:03:37
  I will tell her not to accept any spam packages, would you?
• 1:03:40
  Stick a finger in his. Ass no fish.
• 1:03:42
  I think these like twins just won again today, So that's
• 1:03:45
  eleven in a row. Cardinals, Cardinals will be
• 1:03:49
  interesting. I think they'll be they'll be
• 1:03:52
  hot and cold. You just made my name Tigers.
• 1:03:54
  We predicted. I mean because obviously when
• 1:03:57
  you got Tark school going out and then I love job's arm like I
• 1:04:01
  pulled it out of my ass. He's going to be phenomenal and
• 1:04:06
  we've seen the reinsurgence of ABI Baez.
• 1:04:09
  Yep. I farted.
• 1:04:12
  Carpenter is a real good hitter too.
• 1:04:14
  Carrie Carpenter has been doing. Some bagel hole hitting.
• 1:04:17
  The top of the line up. Yeah, and he said, he said that
• 1:04:20
  he's hitting like 3 or 4 spots too.
• 1:04:23
  And it I think he's done a good job.
• 1:04:26
  And I'm I wasn't really sold on O when they when they signed
• 1:04:29
  him, but I think he's he's got a good feel of, of what the
• 1:04:35
  balance of his lineup is. Yum, Yum be able to move and
• 1:04:38
  take a little bit for as far as the cold teams.
• 1:04:41
  Like I said, we're going to the Rockies are going to be.
• 1:04:43
  I don't even think they're on pace for 40 wins this year.
• 1:04:46
  I don't think. I think the last thing I saw was
• 1:04:49
  38 or something like that. I don't the Reds will figure it
• 1:04:53
  out because they have Tito there and he's just one of the best
• 1:04:58
  managers that smell my ass around in a long time.
• 1:05:01
  The Orioles I and you can go back because I, I predicted the
• 1:05:05
  Orioles are going to be good because coming off a playoff
• 1:05:08
  with young kids and I and I knew they probably weren't going to
• 1:05:11
  go deep in the playoffs last year, But having that core guys
• 1:05:15
  come back and and know what it takes to get there.
• 1:05:17
  And and obviously they've been with the with the injury bug too
• 1:05:21
  and and there's guys and and they've got some really quality
• 1:05:24
  young arms. They just can't stay healthy.
• 1:05:27
  It's just I breaking news. Goody has no woody.
• 1:05:36
  Add the referencing under 200. I know, and that's.
• 1:05:39
  Guy, I mean they say his advanced stats, he should be
• 1:05:41
  hitting like the expected batting average like 280.
• 1:05:44
  And he's yeah with like the off the bat and all the other stuff.
• 1:05:49
  All that stuff. So, like, there's some hope, you
• 1:05:51
  know, a lot of positive regression.
• 1:05:53
  Westberg's been hurt. He's a good player.
• 1:05:56
  I think they'll find a way to bounce back.
• 1:05:58
  Will it be enough for them to get into the playoffs?
• 1:06:00
  I mean, they got to figure it out soon.
• 1:06:02
  I got to go back off now and. Now they lost Grayson Rodriguez,
• 1:06:06
  he was supposed to replace Corbin Burns need now they still
• 1:06:10
  have now they don't have a number one or #2 and a lot of
• 1:06:13
  the guys that they're they're hoping for aren't coming back to
• 1:06:15
  the middle of the season. I don't know if they're going to
• 1:06:17
  be able to get, you know, enough wins and do the math, although I
• 1:06:22
  expect them to be a good team by the end of the year.
• 1:06:24
  Joey bag of. Donuts over there.
• 1:06:27
  I think that's enough. I think arrows had enough of my
• 1:06:30
  statistics. My shenanigans here, I've got
• 1:06:35
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• 1:06:39
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• 1:06:42
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• 1:06:57
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• 1:06:59
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• 1:07:05
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• 1:07:08
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• 1:07:18
  Do we have anything on Monday? Not yet, Speedy, take your hands
• 1:07:22
  out of your pants. Speedy.
• 1:07:26
  'S mom and make sure that you call your mom we want to get her
• 1:07:28
  on the show what do you think Not happening what she's a
• 1:07:31
  great. Not happening.
• 1:07:32
  She's a great guest. I mean, I'll have Jabba
• 1:07:35
  interview her. I'll, I'll stay away.
• 1:07:37
  OK. So maybe Jabba will, you know,
• 1:07:40
  do some interesting things. You just made my nipples hard.
• 1:07:43
  As long as she's using dude wipes and taking care of my 2
• 1:07:46
  hole I'm good. So she'll be, you know, taking
• 1:07:48
  care of her 2 hole. What do you think?
• 1:07:50
  Not happy. Pulled it out of my ass.
• 1:07:54
  All right, that's it for our show.
• 1:07:55
  We will be back on Monday with new guests and new content.
• 1:08:00
  Enjoy Friday's game. Hopefully the Knicks end the
• 1:08:04
  suffering of the Celtics and suffering for us as fans.
• 1:08:08
  I don't want to see them go to a Game 7 and I watch out.
• 1:08:12
  Pacers, OK, watch them out anyways, and the Nuggets 3/3 as
• 1:08:16
  we expected, it's going 7, so we'll see what happens over the
• 1:08:20
  weekend. That would be Saturday for the
• 1:08:23
  Nuggets and the OKC Thunder. So.
• 1:08:26
  So there's two more series left, one of them that's three to two
• 1:08:31
  and the other one's three to three.
• 1:08:32
  So we'll see what happens over the weekend.
• 1:08:34
  That's it. Good night.
• 1:08:35
  So long farewell. They'll come.
• 1:08:38
  A day of life, as we all know. Speedy goodbye.
• 1:08:42
  Yum Yum. I need a genuine tonic.