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Jaguars Reporters: Thursday, September 23 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Obviously there's a sense of urgency here to get better,
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  Speaker 1: to get better fast, and to go win games. And
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  Speaker 1: we're all ready for that. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters presented
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  Speaker 1: by t I a A Bank with Brian Sexton, John Oshan,
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  Speaker 1: Ashlyn Sullivan and j P. Shag Pretended by t I
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  Speaker 1: a A Bank starts right now. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters.
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  Speaker 1: Today is Thursday, September twenty three, and Week three is here.
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  Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals are coming to your town to face
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars at t I A Bank Field. Dafe Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan, Brian Sexton, John Ojan, Glad you're along with
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  Speaker 1: us today and here we go. It's week number three.
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  Speaker 1: The Cardinals coming in one of the hottest offenses in football,
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  Speaker 1: Ashland Kyler Murray leading the way, are close to it
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  Speaker 1: and a few offensive categories. He's got weapons all over
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  Speaker 1: the field and it's a big challenge for this Jaguars defense. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you've listed no positives and there's a re for that.
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  Speaker 1: I remember we were talking about schedule release show and
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  Speaker 1: we were saying the first two games, all right, you
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  Speaker 1: know this is a way to get acclimated to the
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  Speaker 1: football season, you know, almost speaking. Okay, these are your
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  Speaker 1: easiest games and Week three, Oh, that's a tough matchup. Well,
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  Speaker 1: now it's a really tough matchup when you're owing to
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  Speaker 1: Now it's even tougher. Well, it's tough because this team
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  Speaker 1: is really good, and it's also tough. They've got weapons
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  Speaker 1: in places that have hurt the Jaguars defense so far
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  Speaker 1: that was even stopped running pretty well. Um, what they
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  Speaker 1: haven't done is when quarterbacks get outside the pocket and
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  Speaker 1: throw deep. Uh, they haven't made enough big plays on
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  Speaker 1: those balls. Well, to me, that's what Kyler Murray can do,
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  Speaker 1: in addition to everything else he can do. That's what
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  Speaker 1: he can do really well. That they're gonna be covering
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  Speaker 1: guys for five or six seconds. That's hard to do
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL, especially against this kid. We think about
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  Speaker 1: all offensive weapons should be. Um, you know, the jag
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  Speaker 1: Wars have have some guys DJ Chark, Morvin Jones, L
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  Speaker 1: Viscussion Alt. But do any of them require require a
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  Speaker 1: double team? I don't think so. I mean when you
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  Speaker 1: look at the at the car deals DeAndre Hopkins double team, right,
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  Speaker 1: you probably say the same thing about either Rondale Moore,
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  Speaker 1: Christian Kirk. He had two guys who know where he
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  Speaker 1: is at all times. There and and Kyler Murray of
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  Speaker 1: course is a guy because of his legs who can
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  Speaker 1: do things. The difference between the Jaguars and the Cardinals
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  Speaker 1: right now is where you hope to close the gap
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  Speaker 1: in the next three years. Kyla Murray is an emerging
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  Speaker 1: star in his third season. They've built a team around
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  Speaker 1: him piece by piece. They're in the very beginning stages
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  Speaker 1: of trying to do their own thing here, urban Meyer
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  Speaker 1: said at his press conference on Wednesday. They have a
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  Speaker 1: GM who's been there a while. He's built a good team.
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  Speaker 1: They're just getting started here. J Green is on that
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  Speaker 1: team too, but he was a matchup nightmare whether you
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  Speaker 1: can still run or not, six or four with arms forever.
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  Speaker 1: And they use Rondale Moore a few different ways, the
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  Speaker 1: jet sweep stuff, pop passes out in front, so they're
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  Speaker 1: they're all over the field pre snap, and Joe Colin
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  Speaker 1: has to account for all of those things with multiple
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  Speaker 1: scheme that he's got a week of really short nights. John.
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  Speaker 1: The issue of one of the issues is that you
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  Speaker 1: said chasing them around six seconds in the defensive backfield
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  Speaker 1: back here. I mean, you can't run around and man
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  Speaker 1: all day because if you're chasing them around, then Kyler
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  Speaker 1: is gonna run right and this team mikes to play man.
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  Speaker 1: You'd like to play man behind the blitz like they do. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know I said one of the shows this week,
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  Speaker 1: I think Miles Jack and Calvan Chase on can become
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  Speaker 1: key because they're guys who can run and chase and
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  Speaker 1: they can chase down Kyler Murray. Can you do it
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  Speaker 1: on every play? I mean, this is a guy who
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  Speaker 1: has done it against the best fastest defense in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL so far. Um. So I think it was with
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  Speaker 1: Shaun Jenkins said this week they're gonna give up plays. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you have to be ready for it. You have to
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  Speaker 1: overcome it. I continue to say. The only way I
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  Speaker 1: see the Jaguars beating this team is if they get
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  Speaker 1: a couple of turnovers, turn those turners into points, break,
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  Speaker 1: serve all of that. Can they do it against this team?
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  Speaker 1: You know it's a tall, tall, tall order Murray through
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  Speaker 1: a couple of picks last week, so he's still young
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  Speaker 1: and if you can force him into a bad decision,
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  Speaker 1: defense has to score special teams has to score, maybe
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  Speaker 1: both have to score for you to be able to
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  Speaker 1: then turn it over to the offense. Actually, they've been
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  Speaker 1: close to getting these takeaways the first couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: They've had their hands on the football a few times.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, Shack Griffin a couple of times. Racion Jenkins
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  Speaker 1: said he's he's been close to a couple. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: at some point, as urban talked about the other day,
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  Speaker 1: you have to have a spark on defense, some kind
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  Speaker 1: of game changing moment that you know, just changes the
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  Speaker 1: tide of where this team's going. Yeah, a PPU is great,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's awesome. You're getting you're progressing. But I said, think,
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  Speaker 1: especially with a rookie quarterback, then more opportunities you give
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  Speaker 1: him the football, the better. So yeah, it's been a
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  Speaker 1: point of emphasis, and I know Shack Griffin was joking
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  Speaker 1: about it in his postgame press conference last week. Be
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  Speaker 1: nice to the football, it'll happen. Well, here's the week
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  Speaker 1: it has to happen. I know we're saying it's awesome
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  Speaker 1: that they're getting these opportunities. It's not going to be
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  Speaker 1: as awesome when you don't capitalize on the opportunities. So
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  Speaker 1: here's the week you have to do it. They don't
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  Speaker 1: match up well, but that doesn't mean they can't play well.
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  Speaker 1: I think people have to keep that in mind, and
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  Speaker 1: you get guys who go out and play above the
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  Speaker 1: xs and ohs. You know, as we've talked about a
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  Speaker 1: lot here, John, that's kind of been your monter the
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  Speaker 1: first two weeks. You get guys to go make plays,
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  Speaker 1: you win. I mean that's the thing about the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: as you you can't say that there's one team that
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  Speaker 1: can never beat another team. That doesn't happen at this level.
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  Speaker 1: Happens in college football all the time. But at this
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  Speaker 1: level you can go play well. I get the sense
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna play well on offense. I get the sense
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  Speaker 1: that there's not not not thirty five points right, But
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  Speaker 1: I think this week they should be able to run
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  Speaker 1: the ball and that should be able to set up
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, who's learning. It's clear just to listen to
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  Speaker 1: him that he's picking up the little things of the game. Um,
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  Speaker 1: go play well and don't worry about the matchups. Go
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  Speaker 1: play well. You know an interesting overlooks stat it was
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  Speaker 1: the third in the league and pressures. It hasn't always
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  Speaker 1: felt that way. But they're getting pressure on the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: and we needs to happen now, is those pressures quarterback hits,
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  Speaker 1: which they're fourth in the league on uh at some
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  Speaker 1: point those logically turn into a quarterback's r and being
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  Speaker 1: hit or a tipped pass that isn't necessarily a break
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  Speaker 1: on the ball interception, but those are the kind of
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  Speaker 1: interceptions the turn games. Maybe that pressure shows up this
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  Speaker 1: week on Sunday. It would be nice to see, that's
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  Speaker 1: for sure, against this really really good Cardinals offense. Season
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  Speaker 1: tickets are available for the twenties one season. Still come
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  Speaker 1: see the new look Jaguars in person at t I A.
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  Speaker 1: Bank Field and visit Jaguars dot com or call nine
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  Speaker 1: oh four six three three two thousand time now for
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  Speaker 1: did you hear this? And that's Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: on Urban meyers leadership so far, while building the culture
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  Speaker 1: of the organizations, you'll hear the buy in from the
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  Speaker 1: signal caller and the locker room. Coach Meyer's one a
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  Speaker 1: great job of Obviously, there's a sense of urgency here
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  Speaker 1: to get better, to get better fast, and to go
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  Speaker 1: win games. And we're all ready for that. But he's
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  Speaker 1: done a great job of just keeping the team to
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  Speaker 1: other and that's the main thing is this is a
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  Speaker 1: long season, and um, I've been impressed with just the
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  Speaker 1: way he's led and managed the team. It's been it's
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  Speaker 1: been cool to have a front row seat to that.
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  Speaker 1: And then that permeates obviously threw all the leaders on
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  Speaker 1: the team, and um, it's kind of a direct reflection
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  Speaker 1: of that. So there's a lot of good things to
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  Speaker 1: come and work side. The full Trevor Lawrence press conference
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  Speaker 1: available on Jaguars dot com, and you know, continued improvement,
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  Speaker 1: success and ultimately winning results. John will help carry that
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  Speaker 1: message further along. As he wrote the other day, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be honest. As soon as he was saying it,
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  Speaker 1: as soon as it came out of his mouth, I thought,
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  Speaker 1: that's one of the best quotes of the week because
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  Speaker 1: it is showing that the quarterback believes in the coach
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  Speaker 1: and the team believes in the coach. Didn't take a
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  Speaker 1: rocket science note, no, and and and I'm no rocket scientist.
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  Speaker 1: I included it my story this week too, but you
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  Speaker 1: know we didn't want it in both stories. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it just as clear as day a candle that this
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  Speaker 1: kid gets it. Yeah, and number sixteen and you hear
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  Speaker 1: that a few different times, Ashley from the quarterback. He
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  Speaker 1: understands his platform, what his role is, not just calling
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  Speaker 1: the plays on the huddle and all that, but what
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  Speaker 1: he means when he's standing at that microphone too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was refreshing. And I remember we go
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  Speaker 1: back to his pre draft process when the article was
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  Speaker 1: written about how there's bigger things in life than football,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, you can't say that.
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  Speaker 1: But then you watch them at the podium after two
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  Speaker 1: straight losses and he's preaching patients and he's a rookie
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  Speaker 1: quarterback saying, hey, hang in there with us. Many don't
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  Speaker 1: do that. And I think that's what you're seeing is
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  Speaker 1: he understands the more the football thing is helping. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: he's terrific it. Just so the question about the checkdown,
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  Speaker 1: I mean everyone was like, guys, tag going deep, going deep,
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  Speaker 1: check down, check down, check down, and he popped right
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  Speaker 1: back because you know, I checked down twice and both
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  Speaker 1: times they lost yardage, right, And I was screaming at
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  Speaker 1: the TV. Dropped the ball of Shaughnessy dropped the ball, right,
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  Speaker 1: don't take the eight yard loss. You're a veteran. He
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  Speaker 1: gets it. I mean, he understands. And then the best
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  Speaker 1: part of the answer was, look, you've got five guys
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  Speaker 1: rushing and you've got two guys deep. Mathematically, I have
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  Speaker 1: to see that they're running lanes for me to take.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta take that. That's guy who's wise beyond his year. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: the only people who were worried about that comment where
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  Speaker 1: the people who don't have enough outside of life other
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  Speaker 1: than football, Right, they need to go find it. This
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  Speaker 1: kid is so grounded, so grounded. Yeah, especially for a
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  Speaker 1: guy that has never lost two games in his in
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  Speaker 1: his life, and it doesn't seem like he's rattled by that.
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  Speaker 1: He knows what this is. He's always known what this
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  Speaker 1: is about that. So check out the full press conference
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  Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot com and we'll stay on the offense. Now.
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  Speaker 1: We heard from Darryl Bevil earlier today, the offensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: and one of the questions, at least early in the
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  Speaker 1: season has been the balance of the offense. Where is
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  Speaker 1: the running past balance and the the statistics behind that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: his argument today John was you want to be balanced
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  Speaker 1: as can be, but sometimes they will grade a short
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  Speaker 1: pass in an R P O game or like a
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver screen something like that. As a quote unquote run,
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  Speaker 1: it's it sets up as a run if you get
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  Speaker 1: a guy out in space with an opportunity outside. That's
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  Speaker 1: kind of the feel, at least from Bevel today. And
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  Speaker 1: the other side of it is, as he said, when
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  Speaker 1: you run certain plays, if if your defensive look tells
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback past here, then the quarterback is negligent. If
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  Speaker 1: he says I'm just gonna run into this defense, there's
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  Speaker 1: no way they have started off the season and saying,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, We're gonna run thirty four times compared
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  Speaker 1: to eighty four passes. It's not the plan. It's not
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  Speaker 1: what you go into doing. But as he pointed out
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  Speaker 1: also there were eleven straight passes in a two minute
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  Speaker 1: drill last week in the first game of the season.
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  Speaker 1: You're down by seven almost before the game starts. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to get to the run. But you've got
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  Speaker 1: to succeed offensively in what you're doing in order to
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  Speaker 1: be able to stick to the run. If you're not
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  Speaker 1: playing well offensively, you're gonna wind up passing the ball
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  Speaker 1: because you're so far behind that it forces you to
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  Speaker 1: in the word is situational, right, I mean that's what
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  Speaker 1: Bevill said, there are situational issues here. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if people see through that, and and that's exactly what
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  Speaker 1: you're saying. This team right now has to use the
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  Speaker 1: past to set up the run. That has to flip
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  Speaker 1: at some point. You have to be able to use
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  Speaker 1: the run to set up the past for play action
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  Speaker 1: to work or run the ball at some point. Mix
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  Speaker 1: it in there too. Uh. And James Robinson, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he was asked about that specifically today. How do we
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  Speaker 1: get James Robins to the ball more? And his answer was,
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  Speaker 1: we need more plays. They had nine drives last week
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  Speaker 1: on offense. Actually, yeah, it was. It was pretty frank,
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  Speaker 1: It was pretty honest, but I appreciate it. It's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm doing the best I can here trying
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  Speaker 1: to find this balanced offense. But when we can't stay
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  Speaker 1: on the field, we can't run the plays that we've
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  Speaker 1: scripted for James Robinson. So it sounds really simple, but
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  Speaker 1: you need more offensive drives for this tour. This is
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  Speaker 1: a good week for him to get started. They are
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  Speaker 1: they have a ferocious pass rush, but they're not as
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  Speaker 1: strong against the run. This would be a week where
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  Speaker 1: I'd I'd have a flathead. I just keep pounding the ball. Flathead.
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  Speaker 1: That's the old down in get at least outside it's
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  Speaker 1: your world football term. Yeah, well we'll see, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: And another point today was, you know Trevor Lawrence needs
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  Speaker 1: to have better decisions. Yes, but when the play is
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  Speaker 1: there to be made by other players on this offense,
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  Speaker 1: when you have an opportunity to make a third down
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  Speaker 1: catch in traffic that maybe shouldn't have been thrown, but
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  Speaker 1: it's still on target. To make the catch and make
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  Speaker 1: the play on offense, at some point, receivers have to
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  Speaker 1: create separation, they have to get open, they have to
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  Speaker 1: catch the ball. And I think anybody watching the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: knows that group has not helped Trevor Lawrence enough, hasn't
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  Speaker 1: played well enough, hasn't played as well as we expected
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  Speaker 1: before the season. Um, I'm with you, guys, ain't Trevor
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be fine. I think a lot of what
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  Speaker 1: he's going through is very typical Week two stuff trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure out. And I thought Daryl Bevill's best quote
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  Speaker 1: today may have been at the end when he said, basically,
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  Speaker 1: it's some of what Trevor is going through is just
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  Speaker 1: sort of relaxing and not saying, Okay, the play called
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  Speaker 1: for this, I've got to do this. Well, that's sometimes
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  Speaker 1: second year stuff, going to the line and feeling and knowing, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen this safety move here before. Well that tells
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  Speaker 1: me that even thinking I've got to run, he's not
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  Speaker 1: there yet. He will be there, but he's not there yet.
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  Speaker 1: But back to the question, yes, he's got to get
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  Speaker 1: more help. Well, unless we forget you know, the interception
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  Speaker 1: that he threw in the direction of Luke Farrell, he
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  Speaker 1: could have thrown the ball quicker and that isn't a pick.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he held a little too long too, so
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  Speaker 1: he he's got to learn when to do those things.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not all on their receivers. It's this is
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  Speaker 1: a young team playing together for the first time with
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  Speaker 1: the new coaching staff. They all got a long ways
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  Speaker 1: to go. Yes, And I think the running Trevor plays,
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  Speaker 1: I think is so overhyped. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: see it on Twitter or the amount of questions that
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  Speaker 1: this man gets about getting more comfortable with running place.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to get paring of that if we get
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  Speaker 1: one more question about Jacob Hollister. I'm gonna lose my mind.
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  Speaker 1: We're acting Jacob Hollister is the second coming of Dave Casper.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, can we get off that one please? Smanslow
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  Speaker 1: on Jacob Hollister, apparently, I just here's the thing, and
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  Speaker 1: here's here's what it indicates is that there's someone who's
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  Speaker 1: new to the roster. What can they do? That's not
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  Speaker 1: his role. You gotta you gotta ride with the horses
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  Speaker 1: that you rode into the season with, and that's Chart
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  Speaker 1: and Chennault and Marvin Jones Jr. Maybe the Kwan treadwell,
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  Speaker 1: Jacob Hollister is not the answer. Well, he better be
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday if the play is coming his way. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta make the play when the opportunity presents itself, no
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  Speaker 1: matter how long you've been on this Jaguars ross, He's
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  Speaker 1: not Dave Casper. Let's just leave it his b Thank you, Brian,
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  Speaker 1: that's Brian Sexton, John Osan Ashland Sullivan. I'm J. P. Shadrick.
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