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IHeartMedia Aviation Expert Jay Ratliff · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Talk station.
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  Speaker 2: Ay twenty nine, I fifty five case the talk station.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm sliding into home with a big
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  Speaker 2: grin on my face, having scored a run because we
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  Speaker 2: get it this time of the week. I heard me
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  Speaker 2: the aviation expert, Jay Ratliffe, Jay, welcome back, man. It's
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  Speaker 2: great to close the week out for me going on VACA.
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  Speaker 2: Got a vacation day because iHeart tomorrow. But finishing out
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  Speaker 2: the week with you because I always love talking with you.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: You bring some great subject matter, and it's it's a
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  Speaker 2: lighter topic too, aviation.
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  Speaker 1: We can have some fun with it. Absolutely, And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: on the eve of our nation's birthday, the big One, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's it's extraordinary. So I think this little
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  Speaker 1: experiment they started two hundred and fifty years ago has
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  Speaker 1: a shot it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it does, as long as we don't kill ourselves
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  Speaker 2: with stupidity. Jay, and I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Thank I'm with you, brother. Don't go there.
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  Speaker 2: Don't go there, because we're gonna have some fun. What
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  Speaker 2: the hell is shark technology?
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  Speaker 1: Shark technology is something that started with scientists for a
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  Speaker 1: number of decades studying the movements of sharks through the water,
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  Speaker 1: and they thought you know the way that they kind
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  Speaker 1: of glide, they are able to reduce the drag as
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  Speaker 1: they moved through the water. Wouldn't it be really neat
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  Speaker 1: if we could find a way to make that happen
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  Speaker 1: with aircraft. So a number of years ago a company
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  Speaker 1: came out with this shark technology. It's an Australian aerospace
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  Speaker 1: company and they've developed a microscopic textile, a little texture
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  Speaker 1: that you can actually put these microscopic riplets as they
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  Speaker 1: call them, on certain parts of the aircraft to increase
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  Speaker 1: their aerodynamic capability. Lou Fonsas started this number of years
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  Speaker 1: ago where this thin sheath, if you will, very light
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  Speaker 1: weight covering goes over the parts of the wing as
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  Speaker 1: well as the vertical stabilizer and they foundly could save
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  Speaker 1: about a per percent off of or cut the drag
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  Speaker 1: by one percent. That ended up on a larger scale
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  Speaker 1: helping the airlines on these long flights save as much
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  Speaker 1: as four hundred tons of fuel. Wow, obviously that adds
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  Speaker 1: up quick. So now we're seeing a lot of other airlines,
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  Speaker 1: especially as fuel prices have been at least of late
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  Speaker 1: going up, and we're seeing other airlines like Delta being
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  Speaker 1: one of the first in the United States to kind
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  Speaker 1: of invest in this technology, trying to see if hey,
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  Speaker 1: can we use this as well, because look, if you
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  Speaker 1: can convince the airlines there's a way to save money
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  Speaker 1: on fuel, which is their second biggest cost, which is
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  Speaker 1: roughly thirty some percent of their bottom line, they're going
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  Speaker 1: to listen. The only issue was if this technology was
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  Speaker 1: going to weigh so much that you would you kind
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  Speaker 1: of be not saving much because of the additional fuel
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  Speaker 1: you'd have to take on board to carry it on
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  Speaker 1: the outside of the aircraft. Yeah, but ran the early
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  Speaker 1: indications are very promising. So I think we're going to
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  Speaker 1: be hearing more and more about this shark technology that's
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  Speaker 1: being used and has been for a number of years,
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  Speaker 1: but it's becoming much more mainstream in the industry. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see where it goes.
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  Speaker 2: Is it costly, I'm sorry incorporating the shark technology. Is
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  Speaker 2: it costly?
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  Speaker 1: Not much that the airlines aren't willing to look into it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot like the electric vehicles that research we
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  Speaker 1: see airlines spending tens of millions of dollars in research
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  Speaker 1: there convinced that you know, they're not going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to use it as a long haul flight, but
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  Speaker 1: can I shuttle people in a big city from the
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  Speaker 1: surrounding areas to the airport making it easier for them.
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  Speaker 1: We also see the same sort of technology on the
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  Speaker 1: sustained aviation fuels. You and I talk about the sas
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  Speaker 1: where they try to make fuel from vegetable oil and
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  Speaker 1: other types of renewable products. They can do that, they've
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  Speaker 1: done a successfully, They've had flights on it commercially, but
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  Speaker 1: the cost is just too high. So until you reach
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  Speaker 1: that point that it's cost attractive for the airlines and
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  Speaker 1: I both know they're not going to do it, but
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  Speaker 1: if they can grab something that saves them some money
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  Speaker 1: and make them more money out, I mean, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: exactly holding my breath waiting for these savings to be
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  Speaker 1: passed down to us, but yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well at least the bottom line might be improved, and
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  Speaker 2: therefore the share price will go up. And if people
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  Speaker 2: are invested in the tech are if people invested in
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  Speaker 2: the airlines who adopt it, maybe their shares will go off.
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  Speaker 2: That's one way.
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  Speaker 1: If Delton United just hit I think all time highs
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  Speaker 1: so which which said, well, you know they're charging a
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  Speaker 1: lot for the summer because they jack fares. Fuel prices
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  Speaker 1: are dropping. They've been asked if they're going to lower fares, ha, Nope,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to let the demand for travel dictated, which
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  Speaker 1: is their way of saying, heck, no, we're not going
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  Speaker 1: to lower fairs. So yeah, they're going to be reaping
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  Speaker 1: the benefits that fuel prices continue to drop of making
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  Speaker 1: more money than ever because they jacked the fares. They
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  Speaker 1: had to, of course because a fuel and now that
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  Speaker 1: the fuel prices are dropping. Yeah, it's like that temporary
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  Speaker 1: tax in DC we talk about all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just temporary, just temporary. It's not great. Yeah, right, Eddie,
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  Speaker 2: how like a temporary protected status?
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  Speaker 1: Permanent?
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  Speaker 2: That's what temporary means, permanent anyway, pivoting over, got one in.
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  Speaker 2: We got a what's the problem with taking a guitar
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  Speaker 2: on a flight? Yeah, we'll get this one in before
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  Speaker 2: we take a break.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a passer on the Southwest flight shows up.
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  Speaker 1: She flies all the time, she's a professional musician, has
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  Speaker 1: her guitar, and she approached the gate and the gate
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  Speaker 1: agent said, you can't carry that on board, and she says, well,
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  Speaker 1: I have to and I can't check it. They said, no,
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  Speaker 1: you have to. And there was this dispute that got
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  Speaker 1: going between this musician, who the videos show her is
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  Speaker 1: rather calm, and the gate agent was a little bit testy,
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  Speaker 1: saying you should be ashamed of yourself now. She said, wait,
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  Speaker 1: but I've done this repeatedly, many many times on Southwest,
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  Speaker 1: never had a problem. And the issue was she was
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  Speaker 1: not able to get on the flight. The guy called
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  Speaker 1: the police owner wanting her to be arrested, and the
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  Speaker 1: police are there kind of talking to her like what,
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing here, but she misses her flight, she has
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  Speaker 1: to catch a later. And the kicker is, if you
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  Speaker 1: go to the Southwest Airlines website, Brian, it says if
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  Speaker 1: you're a musician, you can carry your bag with you
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  Speaker 1: as long as there's available space in the overage storage compartment,
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  Speaker 1: which there was apparently. And it was just a situation
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  Speaker 1: where this agent, I don't know, was picking a fight
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  Speaker 1: or what have you, but it really was an issue.
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  Speaker 1: There was one man Flang United a number of years
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  Speaker 1: ago that had the same scenario. They forced him to
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  Speaker 1: give up his very expensive guitar. He checked it at
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  Speaker 1: the gate, they destroyed it. So he wrote a song
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  Speaker 1: called United Breaks Guitars. The last I checked, it had
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  Speaker 1: like forty eight million views, So yeah, if you want
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  Speaker 1: to chuckle, he threw a bunch of names in there.
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  Speaker 1: But United Breaks Guitars is a great short video that
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  Speaker 1: pokes a lot of needed fun at the airlines. I
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  Speaker 1: love it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't realize the guitar could sit in an overhead
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  Speaker 2: storage bend. Maybe it was a ukulele or something.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the bins are large enough, and you know
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  Speaker 1: they're normally not that thick. It's going to take the
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  Speaker 1: bulk of the overhead storage compartment. But look, I've seen
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  Speaker 1: people that have reserved the seat next to them so
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  Speaker 1: that they can simply have it next to this if
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  Speaker 1: they've got a violin. Sallow things like that, because there's
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  Speaker 1: no way they can if they're in an orchestra, professional musician,
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  Speaker 1: what have you. They're ever going to turn that over
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  Speaker 1: to anybody.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm reluctant to turn bags over. The baggage handlers.
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  Speaker 2: They know nothing valuable or sentimental or anything along those lines.
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  Speaker 2: Plus pousive brink.
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  Speaker 1: When we come back, I can give you a baggage
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  Speaker 1: horror story you won't believe. Okay, it's not our notes,
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  Speaker 1: but I'll throw it in anyway.
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  Speaker 2: One one extra baggage storage story and idiots flying business
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  Speaker 2: jets and other crazy near MISSUS airports. They'll go away.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be right back with Jay fifty five the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: The talk station.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever been in the cockpit before? Jay Ratliff has.
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  Speaker 2: He is iHeartMedia eighty AH expert. You get an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to talk with Jay every Thursday here in the fifty
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  Speaker 2: five KC Morning Show, and you can hear him elsewhere
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  Speaker 2: on the iHeartMedia radio stations. He's literally everywhere. He's nationwide,
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  Speaker 2: and he has another fun story about baggage storage bins.
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  Speaker 2: Jay Ratliff, springing from the last one, what's this all about?
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  Speaker 1: Orlando? We have an international series of flights coming in
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these people are having big time issues
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  Speaker 1: with weather in in Europe. Three Virgin American flights come
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  Speaker 1: in at Virgin Atlantic flights come in in Orlando, and
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  Speaker 1: to get through customs you have to have your luggage.
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  Speaker 1: So the passengers came in late at night. After multiple delays,
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  Speaker 1: they finally get there Bran. It took them five hours
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  Speaker 1: to get the passengers their bags so they could begin
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  Speaker 1: then to proceed through customs and immigrations coming in the
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  Speaker 1: United States. They had issues with all kinds of issues
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  Speaker 1: in Orlando, and if you will, a perfect storm with
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  Speaker 1: everything that was going on. And I mean, can you
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  Speaker 1: imagine you're already exhausted after being delayed multiple times in Europe.
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  Speaker 1: You finally get your international flight to the United States.
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  Speaker 1: You're in Orlando, You're ready to step into the great
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  Speaker 1: country of the United States, only to have a five
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  Speaker 1: hour delay because you can't proceed until you get your luggage.
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  Speaker 1: And it took that long to get all those people
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  Speaker 1: their luggage. Yeah, you're thinking they have a bad day.
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  Speaker 1: Add up those hours. Yeah, that was a long time
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  Speaker 1: for those people.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of thing I can't abide, which is why
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  Speaker 2: you know, I like to drive when I can. I'm
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  Speaker 2: in charge of the baggage and there's nobody impeding me
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  Speaker 2: other than maybe traffic. But you know what, I can
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  Speaker 2: pull over and get a cup of coffee or something.
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  Speaker 2: You can't do it on an airplane either. Anyway, moving
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  Speaker 2: over to well, a business jet apparently almost causing a
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  Speaker 2: serious problem in Miami.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had the American Airlines jet in Miami cleared
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  Speaker 1: for take off. They begin their role. They're about sixty
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  Speaker 1: miles an hour. They've got to get to let's say
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty for rotation speed
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  Speaker 1: to leave the ground, so they've just kind of begun
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  Speaker 1: their run. A business jet was on the ground coming
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  Speaker 1: in with instructions from air traffic control to hold short
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  Speaker 1: of that active runway, giving priority for the American departure.
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  Speaker 1: For some reason, this business jet pilot misinterpreted his instructions
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  Speaker 1: turned onto the active runway. So what happens now is
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  Speaker 1: you've got this jet in the way of this departing
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  Speaker 1: American Airlines flight. Thankfully, the American crew spotted it immediately
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  Speaker 1: boarded their their takeoff. They were able to stop in
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  Speaker 1: plenty of time. Air traffic controller is going nuts on
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  Speaker 1: the guy and the jest saying, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: We told you to hold short and he just said,
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  Speaker 1: I thought my instructions were otherwise. So you'll get in
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  Speaker 1: trouble with the FAA. There'll be an infection. We'll try
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  Speaker 1: to figure out what happened and try to reduce the
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  Speaker 1: likelihood of this. But you know, pilot air is something
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  Speaker 1: that happens a lot, and we had the situation in
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  Speaker 1: Vegas where we had two airplanes, one cleared to take off,
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  Speaker 1: one clear to lamb and they were going to be
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  Speaker 1: occupying the same spot at the same time as well,
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  Speaker 1: and the Delta flight coming in noticed the departing American flight,
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  Speaker 1: they deviated off went around before air traffic control even
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  Speaker 1: could realize what was going on. Okay, their investigation will continue.
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  Speaker 1: And probably the most frequently asked question I get on
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  Speaker 1: all of this is are we just hearing more of
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  Speaker 1: this now or are these actually more than the norm? Right?
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  Speaker 1: And I would say that it's probably a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more than the norm. But the scariest part is, excuse me.
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  Speaker 1: The head of the International Air Transport Association IYADA, who
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  Speaker 1: kind of helps oversee represent three hundreds of airlines around
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  Speaker 1: the world, says that the near misses that are being
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  Speaker 1: reported are a small number of the actual ones that
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  Speaker 1: take place. And his point was, look, we have the
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  Speaker 1: technology to put at airports, to put in the cockpit
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  Speaker 1: to try to help reduce the number of these these
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  Speaker 1: types of situations. But I don't care how much technology
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  Speaker 1: you've got in airports, in the air traffic control tower,
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  Speaker 1: in the cockpit. If you we're still you know, susceptible
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  Speaker 1: to human air that happens, then, sadly, when it happens
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  Speaker 1: in a situation like that, it can cost lives. So fortunately,
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  Speaker 1: right now none of these things have involved a disaster.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, in fact, the head of the IADA
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  Speaker 1: group said that had we have the technology that we
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  Speaker 1: needed that's been available for a number of years. He
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  Speaker 1: cites the the DC crash between helicopter and the American Airlines jet,
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't have happened. Now, there's no way to really prove that, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: but the point is, wouldn't it have been nice to
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  Speaker 1: have had that in place, maybe to give the helicopter
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  Speaker 1: crew and all the passengers on board that American flight
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  Speaker 1: a chance. So again, it just comes down to the
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  Speaker 1: technologies there, and it's always a slow implementation. And sadly,
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  Speaker 1: the National Transportation Safety Board, at the conclusion of every
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  Speaker 1: investigation that they'll spend eight, ten to twelve months on Brian,
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  Speaker 1: they'll give the FAA a list of recommendations on things
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  Speaker 1: that they make to help make things safer. This is
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  Speaker 1: what we learn, this is how to improve aviation blah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah, And only a small percentage if any of
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  Speaker 1: those are ever put into place sadly because of a
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  Speaker 1: money cost. And yeah, so it's the NTSB I've got
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  Speaker 1: the highest regards for. Too often they're just kind of ignored.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the money costs usually end up with the lab
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  Speaker 2: of the consumer. And I don't know that I necessarily
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  Speaker 2: as a consumer, would be too bothered by having to
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  Speaker 2: pay a little bit more for a flight if it's
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  Speaker 2: going to guarantee a larger amount of safety.
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  Speaker 1: J Well, you know they there, you go, you give
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  Speaker 1: them an idea. They're gonna have a safety tax, now
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  Speaker 1: a safety They've got fourteen different taxes at the end
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  Speaker 1: of every ticket. And you know, if they charge us
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  Speaker 1: five bucks a ticket, which we would be willing to pay,
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  Speaker 1: what thirty eight cents of that whatever make it to
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  Speaker 1: where it was to go.
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  Speaker 2: So you're right, you're right, I'll withdraw my David. Let's continue.
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  Speaker 2: Drones they're flying around airports. That sucks, but we also
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  Speaker 2: have it looks like a positive story. To end the
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  Speaker 2: expert Jay rat look kind a couple of stories here
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  Speaker 2: involving drones. This is becoming more and more of a problem.
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  Speaker 2: People flying drones around airports that is not lawful right day,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully it's not.
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  Speaker 1: It's restricted airspace, supposed to keep them five hundred feet
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  Speaker 1: in under line of sight, blah blah blah, the whole
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  Speaker 1: bunch of rules that operators are supposed to abide by.
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  Speaker 1: And sadly, in both Newark and at Kennedy, we had
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  Speaker 1: situations where drones were involved in flying around this restricted airspace.
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  Speaker 1: Going into Newark, he had a Nineted Airlines flight that
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  Speaker 1: reported one is the highest two thousand feet and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and they didn't impact anything, but it was there shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have been. So they're trying to find out what was
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  Speaker 1: going on there and who was flying it. And yet
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  Speaker 1: a Jet Blue flight coming into Kennedy that actually hit
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  Speaker 1: a drone. So you understand that we're worried about birds
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  Speaker 1: and birds weigh whatever they weigh drones thirty thirty five
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  Speaker 1: to forty pounds on some of these bad boys can
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  Speaker 1: cause some serious damage obviously to an aircraft at a
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  Speaker 1: critical moment of flight. So I guess I'm surprised, Brian,
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  Speaker 1: in the number of drones that we've had over the
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  Speaker 1: years that you and I have not talked more about this.
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  Speaker 1: I really thought when these things fired up, we would
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  Speaker 1: be having a This Week in Drones segment just based
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  Speaker 1: on what was going to be taking place, But it's
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  Speaker 1: it's not been the story over the last several years. Now. Look,
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  Speaker 1: there've been activists in Europe around the London's Heathrow Airport
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  Speaker 1: that have used drones to disrupt air traffic, where they
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  Speaker 1: will bring in dozens and dozens and dozens of drones
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  Speaker 1: so much in fact, they can't safely operate aircraft. It
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  Speaker 1: shuts the airport down and it's been shut down for eight, nine,
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  Speaker 1: ten hours at a time. So it's happened before. So
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  Speaker 1: that's one of the things you look at.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's terrible, and you know, it as easy
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  Speaker 2: if I had enough money, I'd go on to Amazon
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  Speaker 2: right now and buy a thousand of them. You know,
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  Speaker 2: means there are.
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  Speaker 1: And the technology is increasing significantly, and you know, they
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  Speaker 1: still yet to you know, drop my pizza, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my lane in my driveway. But we're in that direction.
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  Speaker 1: And as quickly as this is ongoing, I tell you
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  Speaker 1: it's going to really be a further issue for the airtraft,
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  Speaker 1: for the Federal Aviation Administration because of what they've got
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  Speaker 1: going on, because they're going to have to help continue
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  Speaker 1: the oversight of all this and they're overseeing commercial airlines,
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  Speaker 1: they're overseeing private airlines, they're seeing overseeing helping on the
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  Speaker 1: military side of things as they intersect. You've got all
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  Speaker 1: the medical emergency flights you have. Oh yeah, now we
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  Speaker 1: have to get get involved in monitoring and switching with
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  Speaker 1: space exploration and launches. Has it so the FAA has
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  Speaker 1: got i mean their plate is full and running over.
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  Speaker 1: And the idea of the drones, yeah, they were kind
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: of late to the party on it. They're a little
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: bit where they need to be. They've had people register
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: those drones and do things so that in the event
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: a drone does get hit and you can find the
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: registration number, you know who to throw in jail. But
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: you know, from a terrast standpoint, obviously there are some concerns.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Terror standpoint is obviously what was going on in the
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: back of my mind, simple, inexpensive and potentially devastating. Okay,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Alaska Airlines unveiling a fallen the Soldier cart Jay.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a anytime that there's a soldier that
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: comes in that's deceased, killed in action, or they're transporting remains.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: They have in Cincinnati that Delta's got a cart that's
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: only used and it's painted military colors with US flag.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: That's used for the when those remains arrive or when
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: they're being sent out. So in Salt Lake City, a
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Last Airlines now has one of these carts, and it's
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: it's great to see. I'm embarrassed to see not every
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: airport has one, because they should because there's always a
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: ceremony involved with the arrival of the human remains of
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: a fallen soldier. It's a very emotional moment. A lot
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: of times the captain will to ask people on board
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the plane to please remain seated until those remains are
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: removed from the aircraft. Occasionally you've got idiots who have
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: issues with it, but most people are are are very
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: respectful and they understand that may have family, certainly military
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: escort on board the flight. And yeah, but having that
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: those those carts that are never used for luggage, never
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: used for baggage your cargo, only to receive the remains
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: of the fallen soldier. You hope it's never used, but
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: when it is, they it really adds a touch of respect.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Respect amen, and they're well, they're deserving that respect, as
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: we always do. Let's let's finish up on hub delays.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: What what's it like to travel? I think a lot
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: of travel going on is a holiday weekend.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got issues right now with up near Minneapolis,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: but it's kind of south of Minneapolis. It's north of Chicago.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: If it stays out of the way, we're gonna have
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: a really good day to fly. So it's gonna be hot.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Other than that, no, it looks like today it could
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: be just a beautiful day to take to the skies,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: take to the roads, or whatever might happen.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: To be well if you got to fly. Certainly ending
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: on some positive note there, Jay Ratliff, I hope you
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: have a fabulous Independence day you in your better half,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: and look forward to having you back on the show
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: next Thursday. My friend