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"Not a Mystery" (Thursday August 28, 2025, Hour 1) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Twenty three year old Robbie Weston was able to leave
• 0:07
  what the police called a video manifesto.
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: First Thing Today by Joe Thomas on the Talk Mean jewort.
• 0:15
  Speaker 3: Said, steal me, step me every day, at least for work.
• 0:21
  Speaker 4: When the sun comes up.
• 0:22
  Speaker 5: Drops a pet of discovering the non.
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  Speaker 4: Joe has everything a dream do.
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  Speaker 6: All, the chasure said.
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  Speaker 7: Needs no one that Joe's as smile, He only as.
• 0:36
  Speaker 8: Let them be.
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  Speaker 4: Joe, God, bless you for letting us be of service
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  to you.
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  Speaker 2: I want to be.
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  Speaker 4: Another day, another moment where you grapple with things that
• 0:51
  you feel like you should be grappling for but.
• 0:55
  Speaker 8: Are fairly apparent. Thank you for letting us be of
• 1:00
  service to you, however, and whenever we do it. The
• 1:06
  horrors of yesterday afternoon shooting in Minnesota, a transgender.
• 1:20
  Speaker 9: Person with what is described by.
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  Speaker 8: Witnesses in the police investigation phrases like kill Donald Trump
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  inscribed on the magazines he used to shoot up Annunciation
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  Catholic School as mass was beginning to start the new year.
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  Two children dead, seventeen wounded, fourteen of them children. Those
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  are expected to survive. Westman, who went by the name Robin,
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  though was born with the name Robert committed suicide before
• 2:18
  police could apprehend him. His mother taught at the school,
• 2:28
  And was it just Monday? We were talking about political violence,
• 2:39
  people who are told that they have to commit acts
• 2:45
  of violence to gain political position. The mayor of Chicago
• 2:51
  is threatening a showdown with federal troops like where Caracas
• 2:57
  and Venezuela, and the police supporting the mayor or going
• 3:01
  to square off with the army supporting El Presidente. Ironically,
• 3:13
  the police being asked to protect the idea of not
• 3:17
  arresting people who violate other people's rights, like the right
• 3:21
  to celebrate your faith in your own choosing and in
• 3:27
  your own way. And of course you feel like you
• 3:33
  should be grappling, and sadly, what is more apparent is
• 3:41
  that these are things that we saw coming. These are
• 3:47
  things that we've been warning about for time and time again.
• 3:57
  People on television saying violence is to be done to
• 4:03
  gain political position. People are being told that if you're
• 4:08
  not given special treatment, then you're being somehow discriminated against
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  to all horrors, And I understand how you feel like
• 4:19
  you should be grappling with something that's.
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  Speaker 4: Self evident.
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  Speaker 8: Details gunman opened fire with a rifle through the windows
• 4:29
  of a Catholic church celebrating the beginning of the church's
• 4:34
  school year. Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara confirmed the shooter's
• 4:39
  identity as twenty three year old Robert Westman of Richfield, Minnesota.
• 4:44
  President Trump Wednesday issued formal proclamations that all flags fly
• 4:50
  at half staff through the end of the month. President
• 4:55
  called the events senseless acts of violence. Meanwhile, more senseless
• 5:02
  acts of violence air Force granting full military funeral honors
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  for Ashley Babbitt, the Air Force veteran who was shot
• 5:13
  to death by security outside of a senator's office on
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  January sixth, twenty twenty one. Democrat candidate for Governor of Virginia,
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  Abigail Spanburger told a statewide newspaper that if she was elected,
• 5:30
  she would rescind the Governor of Virginia's executive order that
• 5:35
  requires state and local law enforcement to cooperate with federal
• 5:39
  immigration authorities. Governor Youngin took to social media immediately, saying
• 5:45
  that Virginia would turn into a sanctuary state under Spanburger.
• 5:51
  Health in Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior Wednesday
• 5:56
  rescinded emergency use authorizations for COVID nineteen vaccines and ended
• 6:02
  the FDA's broader authorization of the shots. Susan Monarez, who
• 6:08
  was declared out as director of the Centers for Disease
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  Control and Prevention on Wednesday, pushed back through her lawyer,
• 6:17
  insisting she had not been fired and would not step down.
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  The DHS reported at five point thirty Eastern Times Susan
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  Monarez is no longer Director of Centers for Disease Control
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  and Prevention. Mark Zaid, her attorney, posted this statement saying,
• 6:38
  when CDC Director Susan Monrez refused to rubber stamp unscientific,
• 6:43
  reckless directives and fire dedicated health experts, she chose protecting
• 6:48
  the public over serving a political agenda. She will not
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  resign and those are our first things, among others, and
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  we will discuss on the talk media network work.
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  It makes sense to me that preventing or reducing inflammation
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  is a key component to our overall health. The Mayo
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  Clinic found that kurcumin can decrease swelling and inflammation, has
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  antioxidant properties, and research suggests that kurcumin can prevent cancer
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  many instances, make chemotherapy more effective. It protects our healthy
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  help you to look good, feel good, and enjoy total wellness.
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  Some of these scammers may say threatening things like you
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  will be arrested if you don't make payments or provide
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  personal information. Do not fall for these tricks. These calls
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  are not from US. Real solid security employees will never
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  threaten you for information or money. If you receive a
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  call like this, hang up. Never give the call of
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  your personal information like your Social Security number or bank account,
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  or send money in any form cash, gift cards, wire transfers,
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  or prepaid debit cards. Report the call to our law
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  Speaker 6: Hi, everybody, I'm Jackhannah and It's always a boy. Growing
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  up on a farm in Tennessee, I've been fascinated with animals.
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  I'm not only in all of their beauty and kindness,
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  but also their tireless work ethic. Just look at the
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  birds who gather supplies to build nests, or Swiss foxes
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  of fruit. This remarkable work ethic is shared by our
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  best friends, the canines. We know dogs are wonderful pets
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  at home, but because of their acute senses, they also
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  Speaker 2: Dogs keep us safe at airports.
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  Speaker 13: Bruh, that's buzzed.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, he's starting with the woots.
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  Speaker 13: And now a speech.
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  Speaker 14: I just want to say that friendship is about heart,
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  art and brain.
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  Speaker 8: Who's with me?
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  Speaker 13: Good thing is he knows when he's buzzed, and my
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  Speaker 4: Love that guy, me too.
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  Speaker 5: Know your buzzed warning signs, call for a ride when
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  air filters clean. For more tips on saving money by
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  reducing your energy waste, check out FTC dot gov slash green,
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  Speaker 17: The sounds of plot.
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  Speaker 2: Quit for you from Joe Thomas. It's first thing today.
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  Speaker 8: So we continue our coverage of the State Policy Network
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  and their annual meeting, brought to you by Daily Signal
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  dot com and.
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  Speaker 4: The Virginia Institute for Public Policy.
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  Speaker 8: But this story out of Minnesota, annunciation and the shooting
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  and the way the media is portraying.
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  Speaker 4: Again, and you know that if he was wearing a
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  maga hat.
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  Speaker 9: Do I have to say it?
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  Speaker 8: Robert Westman, the shooter killing two children, wounding fourteen other children,
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  and wounding too adults.
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  Speaker 9: With a manifest question, was.
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  Speaker 18: On a possible motive and a relationship to the church
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  or to the school.
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  Speaker 19: I cannot.
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  Speaker 18: I have no information to share on a motive other
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  than saying again that there was some sort of manifesto
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  that was time to come out on YouTube. It's been
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  taken down and our investigators are going through that to
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  try and develop a motive from that.
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  Speaker 8: His mother worked at the school. Some reports say she
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  taught at the school. Joel is saying she lives in
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  Naples now in Florida, kah. He killed himself before he
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  could be held to account for the horrors he rained
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  down on Minneapolis yesterday. He posted videos with the arsenal
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  of weapons he was going to use.
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  Speaker 9: One of the.
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  Speaker 8: One of the magazines had the phrase killed Donald Trump
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  on it, according to reports multiple reports there. Then you
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  know this is the kind of stuff, you know what
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  what could have possibly radicalized Robin, which is what.
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  Speaker 20: Motivate him and radicalize him to carry out this The
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  shitting when you use.
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  Speaker 21: The word radicalize, we tend to think of terror a
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  more traditional terrorists, something that people came especially in this country.
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  Speaker 8: This is a national security analyst. Terror is what Robert
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  Westman rained down on Annunciation Catholic Church. To call it
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  anything else would be ludicrous. And if you or I
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  use this radio program to do anything of the kind,
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  we would be called out immediately for it. And as
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  I said in the onset of the program, the natural
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  inclination is to feel like you need to grapple for
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  meaning in this. But if you go through the collected
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  works that you and I have spent morning after morning
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  after morning in the data points begin to add up.
• 17:20
  It was just Monday we were talking about, yet again
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  hearing from the radical left that violence had to be
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  in the toolkit to battle against. Tim Waltz himself was
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  asked a couple of times, according to church leaders, to
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  provide better security for the non public schools in Minnesota.
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  But beyond that, people in pain, and Robert Westman was
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  in pain. Robert Westman had obviously.
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  Speaker 9: Issues with who they were.
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  Speaker 8: And after enough time of being told that if you're
• 18:22
  not being treated special, you're being discriminated against, and that
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  you have to fight back against that how many times
• 18:34
  do you have to watch a Sunday morning newscast or
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  read a post on somebody's substack about fighting back for
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  your rights when no rights were being denied. Special treatment
• 18:50
  might not have been provided to the degrees that one
• 18:55
  might have expected, but Westman, as much as anything, in
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  grave pain for what I'm sure was years. And those
• 19:18
  who will claim that you can't bring these things up
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  because it victim shames, He's not the victim. He's the
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  perpetrator and his mother is going through the horrors. That's
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  so few, but still so many in the United States
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  know the pain of finding out something horrific had happened
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  at the hand of one of your children.
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  Speaker 4: Where were the people and where are the people who in.
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  Speaker 9: The name of this.
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  Speaker 8: National security expert radicalized? We don't know what radicalized him.
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  Speaker 21: To seem to be familiar with in the post nine
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  to eleven era, right, So when you talk about radicalization,
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  you talk about writings that reference suicide, extremely violent thoughts
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  and ideas, and those multiple videos that are posted online.
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: No radicalization, that's see you're talking about the end result
• 20:25
  of radicalization. Radicalization is being told that all the other
• 20:34
  people don't matter. And I know that sounds unusual coming
• 20:43
  from somebody in a profession who most of our projections
• 20:48
  to this because we have egos and we sit inside
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  your radio because we have this case of listen to me,
• 21:01
  but we're only listened to if we're serving your needs.
• 21:06
  Those who come on and insist that you listen because
• 21:09
  it's their right to speak, and therefore your responsibility to
• 21:13
  listen somehow wind up in these positions. I'm not defending
• 21:23
  Robert Westman, who shot up this Catholic church on Wednesday.
• 21:31
  I'm just saying that there were points along the line
• 21:36
  where the flags were waving, and the same people who
• 21:39
  insist that we have red flag laws now want to
• 21:47
  dance around the subject of all the red flags that
• 21:50
  had been waving in this young man's life prior to this,
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  and where they addressed or or purported.
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  Speaker 11: Considered by most optimized curcumin is one of the few
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  bioavailable and highly absorbable curcumin products on the market. I'm
• 24:12
  doctor Mitch. Since most chronic diseases have inflammation, our optimized
• 24:18
  curcumin seems to be a perfect addition to any nutritional program.
• 24:23
  It makes sense to me that preventing or reducing inflammation
• 24:28
  is a key component to our overall health. The Mayo
• 24:31
  Clinic found that kurcumin can decrease swelling and inflammation, has
• 24:36
  antioxidant properties, and research suggests that kurcumin can prevent cancer
• 24:43
  or at least slow the spread of cancer, and in
• 24:45
  many instances, make chemotherapy more effective. It protects our healthy
• 24:51
  cells even from radiation. Totalwellness dot com where we help
• 24:56
  you to look good, feel good, and enjoy total wellness.
• 25:02
  Speaker 12: I'm Andrew Saul, Commission of Self Security. I'm here to
• 25:05
  warn you about telephone scammers pretending to be government employees.
• 25:10
  Some of these scammers may say threatening things like you
• 25:13
  will be arrested if you don't make payments or provide
• 25:17
  personal information. Do not fall for these tricks. These calls
• 25:21
  are not from US. Real solid security employees will never
• 25:25
  threaten you for information or money. If you receive a
• 25:29
  call like this, hang up. Never give the call of
• 25:33
  your personal information like your social Security number or bank account,
• 25:37
  or send money in any form cash, gift cards, wire transfers,
• 25:42
  or prepaid debit cards. Report the call to our law
• 25:46
  enforcement on the Office of the Inspector General at OIG
• 25:51
  dot SSA dot gov.
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  Speaker 13: Uh oh brah, that's buzzed.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, he's starting with the woots.
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: And now a speech.
• 26:02
  Speaker 14: I just want to say that friendship is about heart,
• 26:06
  heart and brain.
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: Who's with me?
• 26:08
  Speaker 13: Good thing is he knows when he's buzzed, and my
• 26:11
  brain is saying when it's time to go home, Somebody
• 26:14
  call me a ride.
• 26:15
  Speaker 22: Love that guy, me too.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Know your buzzed warning signs, call for a ride when
• 26:19
  it's time to go home. Buzz driving is drunk driving.
• 26:23
  Speaker 15: Did you know that more than half our household energy
• 26:25
  costs go to heating and cooling. Energy efficiency isn't just
• 26:29
  good for the environment, It means lower utility bills too.
• 26:34
  One way to reduce your energy waste is a home
• 26:36
  energy assessment. Your utility company can help, or you can
• 26:40
  learn how to do it yourself at energysavers dot gov.
• 26:44
  That's energysavers dot gov. You'll learn to look for air
• 26:47
  leaks around windows and doors, check ducts for holes, and
• 26:50
  improve your insulation. Another time to cut energy costs is
• 26:54
  when you shop for a new appliance. Look for the
• 26:57
  energy star logo and read the energy guide later. And
• 27:00
  there are day to day things you can do. Lower
• 27:03
  your thermostat in winter and raise it in the summer,
• 27:06
  close fireplace stampers when they're not in use, and keep
• 27:09
  air filters clean. For more tips on saving money by
• 27:13
  reducing your energy waste, check out FTC dot gov slash green,
• 27:18
  a tip from the Federal Trade Commission, the nation's consumer
• 27:21
  protection agency.
• 27:24
  Speaker 23: For those fortunate enough to help the person who has
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  always been their hero, find the care guides you need
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  to help at AARP dot org slash caregiving. Hope you
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  enjoyed your meal, and I just want to say he's
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  Speaker 14: A blood like you.
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  Speaker 2: Lucky.
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  Speaker 24: Caring for my brother is far from easy, but he's
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  a part of me, like my arms and legs, so
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  I'll be his no time for tired.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing can disable this love.
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  Speaker 8: He needs me.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm a lucky one even though I need help.
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  Speaker 14: Known.
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  for your strength.
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  Speaker 2: In making mornings great again. First thing today on the
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  Talk Media Network by Joe Thomas, the car.
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  Speaker 4: Of Build the Rights the Constitution.
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  Speaker 8: What's it work? You know they're going to grind.
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  Speaker 13: Us down.
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  Speaker 2: Until it really hurts.
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  Speaker 8: Now you're on the State Policy Network Annual meetings and
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  brought to you by the folks at Daily Signal dot
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  com as well as Virginia Institute for Public Policy. Certainly,
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  we will continue to continue coverage of the shooting in
• 28:50
  Minnesota and get with you another enormous story. Kristin Eastlike
• 28:57
  from the Capital Research Center is going to join us.
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  Speaker 19: Uh.
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  Speaker 8: Just a massive story from behind the scenes, UH that
• 29:06
  we want to get into. But let me get to
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  you at four three four eight A two four two
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  one seven.
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  Speaker 4: Who's this, Hey, Joe, It's Clark. Hey Clark, good morning, sir.
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  Speaker 9: How are you?
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  Speaker 8: I'm good and you I'm just trying to keep it
• 29:20
  all on the radio because people are tuning in. It's
• 29:23
  it's the crisis, you know reporting, you know, because there's
• 29:26
  the flashpoint moment when something horrific happens, and then days
• 29:32
  and days and days of nothing new to report, and
• 29:36
  people insisting that they have to just sit there and
• 29:39
  say nothing new here and uh and find new and
• 29:43
  long way winded ways of let's get an expert on
• 29:46
  the set and see see what they can tell us
• 29:49
  about the radicalization of and and and it becomes almost
• 29:53
  comical if it wasn't for the tragedy of the dead
• 29:57
  children and the wounded children.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean, It's a tragedy.
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  Speaker 17: So let's do a couple of things real quick on
• 30:06
  things we should have learned but apparently didn't. You remember
• 30:09
  roid rates, Joe.
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  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, absolutely.
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: When this that's the what that's called when you lose
• 30:15
  you have your temper you know, when you take anabolic steroids,
• 30:20
  you have temper issue.
• 30:24
  Speaker 17: Extra hormones. Wasn't a good thing, right? And uh, are
• 30:28
  we allowed to use anabolic steroids? Is a growth promote
• 30:33
  and cattle and stuff or is that a bad thing?
• 30:37
  Speaker 18: Well?
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: I know it's a bad thing too, you know. And
• 30:40
  you know there's a lot of people who go out
• 30:41
  looking for organic you know, non you know, we manipulated beef.
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: I don't know if it's not.
• 30:49
  Speaker 17: Bad to do that now, right, because it's a bad thing. Now,
• 30:53
  if you had a heart problem, what kind.
• 30:55
  Speaker 26: Of doctor would you go, say, cardiologists, a cardiology how
• 31:00
  about like if you had a kidney problem, a nephrologist
• 31:03
  or an internal medicine person.
• 31:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah, at very least they'd refer me to a nephrologist. Yeah.
• 31:09
  Speaker 17: So if something is not a mental health issue, because
• 31:14
  that's what they're telling us, how come it's treated by
• 31:16
  mental health professionals.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Hmmm?
• 31:19
  Speaker 17: Makes me wonder about that. Now, maybe we shouldn't be
• 31:23
  giving royds to people that see mental health professionals. I
• 31:28
  don't know, Joe, it just seems controversial to me. Maybe
• 31:33
  a bad idea. Things we should have learned now. Shifting
• 31:37
  over to cracker barrel real quick. There was a farm, Yeah,
• 31:42
  and on the farm there was a goose, and this
• 31:45
  goose laid golden eggs Joe. But one day the farm
• 31:49
  got a new farm manager, and she made a very
• 31:53
  big deal of dragging the goose over to a stomp
• 31:57
  and announcing that she was going to chop the goose's
• 31:59
  head off, and then she did, and everybody said, what'd
• 32:02
  you kill the goose?
• 32:02
  Speaker 19: Fur?
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: What'd you kill the goose?
• 32:04
  Speaker 17: Fur? Realizing her mistake, she got a needle and thread,
• 32:09
  and so the goose is head back onto the neck.
• 32:12
  But guess what, Joe already didn't lay golden eggs anymore.
• 32:18
  If only our fourbearers could come up with some kind
• 32:22
  of axiom or fable to demonstrate you shouldn't do stuff
• 32:28
  like this, well, I mean, you know, this is this is.
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: The Bloker broke Well, it is history, and and this
• 32:39
  is the hubrius of the American left that they think
• 32:42
  they can, I don't know, write new history, right, you know,
• 32:46
  write their own history, write it the way they wanted
• 32:49
  to go.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I understand, I mean we we all don't.
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: Nobody wants to be derivative. But at some point the
• 32:59
  collection of human knowledge has got to mean something, right,
• 33:02
  doctor Clark.
• 33:06
  Speaker 17: It would be nice. You know, the thing we learned
• 33:09
  from history is we don't learn from history, I.
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: Guess unfortunately too frequently. Yeah, absolutely, But.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: So you not going back to cracker barrel ever again?
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: The type two I don't get to eat out much.
• 33:26
  Speaker 17: And if I did I think cracker barrels is like
• 33:29
  stuff that I really shouldn't eat. Okay, so I can't
• 33:34
  say I'm gonna boycott cracker barrel because of what they did.
• 33:38
  Now if I did eat there, I would, you know,
• 33:41
  I have made it a point to find out whatever
• 33:44
  a Unilevor product is and not purchase that. That made
• 33:48
  life kind of rough.
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: Oh oh yeah, because there's a lot of them.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
• 33:54
  Speaker 17: Yes, incredible what mega corporations control. But yeah, I mean
• 34:02
  stuff we don't learn from history, and uh just keep
• 34:07
  doing the same stuff over and over.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Yep, and we keep reporting the same stuff over and over.
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: And this is why I said that. At the onset
• 34:14
  of the program, I know that the inclination is to
• 34:16
  feel like you're supposed to be grappling for you know,
• 34:20
  the answers or the meaning or anything.
• 34:23
  Speaker 9: Like that here.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: But I don't think we need to be grappling. I
• 34:27
  think we know.
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: I think we know what's going on, and we're denying
• 34:33
  its reality out of some well, I think out of
• 34:36
  the same mindset that leads to the cracker barrel, the
• 34:40
  CEO chopping off the goose that laid the golden egg,
• 34:44
  is that you know, there's there's new markets. Everything wants
• 34:49
  to be new. There's another fable about a dog, a
• 34:52
  bone and a pond where the dog wanted the new
• 34:56
  bone because it was bigger, and then realized it was
• 34:59
  his in a pond, and now he had no bones.
• 35:03
  And that's where we are as a society. We want
• 35:07
  something new and bigger. We feel like that's our birthright,
• 35:11
  is to have more than the last person had. And
• 35:16
  rather than helping people who are expressing that they have problems,
• 35:21
  we are too many in our society feel like that's
• 35:25
  not fair. You shouldn't do that. It's victim shaming or
• 35:30
  any number of labels that the American Psychological Association puts
• 35:35
  on these things. And rather than treat it, how many
• 35:40
  times have we talked about this? Rather than treating, they
• 35:43
  encourage and they celebrate and they say this is a
• 35:47
  great thing and this makes you special. Rather than saying, hey,
• 35:51
  you might want to see someone about that, you're told that, no,
• 35:55
  this is what makes you unique. Yet we put more
• 35:58
  and more people on the autism spectrum and tell them
• 36:01
  that you know, they're never going to be able to
• 36:04
  do half the things the rest of the society does
• 36:07
  because there are now on this ever expanding spectrum. It's
• 36:11
  crazy because we'll do the opposite thing depending on I
• 36:15
  don't know whatever, you know, the perceived political bounce of
• 36:21
  one group or another. If transgender people were on the
• 36:27
  autism spectrum, we probably wouldn't be celebrating them, because we
• 36:31
  don't seem to celebrate people who wind up on the
• 36:33
  autism spectrum as it is.
• 36:37
  Speaker 17: Let's see mental health. We've gone from asylums, two lobotomies,
• 36:49
  to elect drive shock therapy, to ice baths, to anabolic or.
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: Hormones.
• 37:00
  Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, there's there's a there's a history there. And Joe,
• 37:06
  I got a wonder. Can you cite me one person
• 37:10
  that's written a manifesto that was not crazy? Could we
• 37:16
  just make maybe that ought to be like a test?
• 37:19
  Have you written a manifesto? No you can't have a gun,
• 37:24
  or yes, yes you can't have a gun.
• 37:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it is.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: It does seem to be correlation at very least, if
• 37:31
  not causation.
• 37:33
  Speaker 9: Good stuff, don you? We could maybe we.
• 37:36
  Speaker 17: Could replace are you a Fugitive from Justice? With have
• 37:40
  you written a manifesto?
• 37:41
  Speaker 9: On that application?
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: I have a good morning, sir, Take care four three
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  Speaker 8: First thing today, we are at the State Policy Network
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  annual meetings in New Orleans and all of us here
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  from the Virginia Institute. It's been an incredible time for me.
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  I've never been. It's literally a convention center full of
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  people just like the Virginia Institute for Public Policy from
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  all the states and all the Union's federalism on the March.
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  One of our good friends from the Capital Research Center
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  is Christian Eastlick back on the program because she has
• 45:07
  enormous news and there. I haven't oversold it, have I? Christien?
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  Speaker 20: I don't think so this is pretty important.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, guys, I didn't want to kind of you overdo
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  it and then kind of make it. You know, I
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  really truly believe this. So why don't you tell everyone
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  what happened just this week while we've all been here
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  at the State Policy Network meetings.
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  Speaker 20: Well, it actually happened barely twelve hours ago. This reporter
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  at the New York Times, who is great on nonprofit issues,
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  he just announced that Bill Gates has decided to stop
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  running money through a large consultancy, a large democratic consultancy
• 45:46
  that has been causing a lot of problems for liberty
• 45:50
  minded people nationwide. It's an organization called Arabella Advisors, and
• 45:54
  it works by having a number of fiscal sponsors so
• 45:58
  that you don't always know what group is responsible for
• 46:02
  the kinds of campaigns that they're running. And it's campaigns
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  for everything. It's everything from trying to drive voters to
• 46:11
  the into the election based on how they're going to vote,
• 46:14
  which is something that isn't allowed by the IRS. Partisan
• 46:18
  advocacy isn't allowed. They fund abortions, abortion advocacy, they fund
• 46:24
  climate advocacy. They have funding for pretty much any project
• 46:29
  that is out there that threatens threatens our liberties, that
• 46:35
  threatens a free economy, and they are now going to
• 46:38
  lose up till now. Gates Foundation has given them four
• 46:42
  hundred and fifty million dollars and they are going to
• 46:45
  stop doing that.
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: So that last number, because I was going to ask you,
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  because I like to be that guy in the room,
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  I was going to ask you you are we sure
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  it's the same Bill Gates, But I don't know if
• 46:55
  some guy named Bill Gates in Indiana has that kind
• 46:58
  of scratch, you know. And so so so Arabella, we've talked,
• 47:04
  you've been on the program before. You guys at the
• 47:07
  Capitol Research Center really have Arabella down cold for all
• 47:12
  of the spider web that it goes out into. But
• 47:16
  this is George Sorows, this is open society. This is
• 47:22
  where they go. Uh you ever watched if you ever
• 47:25
  watched James Bond and you know, and there's there's Christoph Walls,
• 47:29
  you know as as Blowfeld, and he's got the room
• 47:33
  with all the people around the meeting table That's basically
• 47:37
  what I want you to imagine when you think of Arabella.
• 47:42
  This is that room full of global you know, you know,
• 47:46
  the the nice white, white hat wearing ones of the
• 47:49
  World Economic Forum ones, and the black hat ones are
• 47:52
  the ones that don't don't ever want their name spoken.
• 47:55
  Speaker 13: We like to.
• 47:56
  Speaker 20: Describe this as kind of a pyramid of information. So
• 48:00
  sitting at the top is Arabella, and then the second tier.
• 48:03
  They manage organizations that are nonprofits. So some of them
• 48:07
  are classified as charities five to one C threes, others
• 48:11
  are classified as social welfare groups, and they can do
• 48:14
  unlimited lobbying. They can also tell people who to vote for.
• 48:19
  They can pursue party politics. But these groups often work
• 48:23
  in tandem. So the charity part of the group, the
• 48:27
  education fund angle, will put out the studies, they will
• 48:32
  build some sort of infrastructure. They'll get people talking about
• 48:35
  an issue like let's say healthcare for America. Now, that
• 48:38
  stuff that works for the C three, and then they
• 48:41
  have the Healthcare Action Now that then gets to lobby
• 48:46
  on healthcare issues. It gets to push Medicaid expansion, or
• 48:49
  it gets to give money to campaigns to help elect
• 48:54
  people who will do those things. So that's the layer
• 48:57
  in the middle. And what happens is that the Healthcare
• 49:00
  for America. Now they're at the very bottom of the pyramid,
• 49:03
  and it's hundreds and hundreds of groups. One of these nonprofits,
• 49:06
  the one that gets a lot of Gates money is
• 49:08
  the New Venture Fund. Uh it was the Arabella's president
• 49:13
  or New Venture Fund's president admitted that Gates gives two
• 49:16
  percent of their entire revenue through New Venture Fund. That's
• 49:21
  the group that would run Healthcare for America.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Now, so when you.
• 49:26
  Speaker 8: Tell you and these the difference is, you know, the
• 49:29
  C three, C four, you know, and then you become
• 49:32
  a political action committee. But unlike in our space where
• 49:36
  the political action committee is like Spirit of Virginia and
• 49:39
  everyone knows it and they you know, and you've seen
• 49:42
  their placards and whatever else, these are five oh one
• 49:45
  C fours that nobody has ever said their name except
• 49:48
  for Kristen and the other folks at Capital Research Center
• 49:52
  out there. And they don't want it because they want
• 49:55
  all of these groups pardon me, to appear grassroots. Oh
• 50:02
  it's it's just a bunch of old you know, you know,
• 50:06
  cute kids you know from college saying we want healthcare
• 50:10
  and we want it now, when it.
• 50:11
  Speaker 20: Really is exactly And the interesting that why would the
• 50:16
  Gates Foundation, who can give money directly to a five
• 50:19
  H one C three charity and they do that, why
• 50:21
  would they need to pass the money through a democratic consultancy?
• 50:25
  And it's because there's a lot of coordination that happens
• 50:28
  between and amongst these groups. You could have a situation
• 50:30
  where there's a letter out there supporting some public policy
• 50:34
  issue and it has twenty signers that are all Arabella
• 50:37
  related entities. So it looks like you're absolutely right. It
• 50:41
  appears as though we call this AstroTurf. And the scale
• 50:45
  of the way that this organization operates, it's usually per
• 50:48
  political cycle, a roughly two billion dollar organization, give or
• 50:54
  take a few million. And again, they do receive money
• 50:58
  from many many foundations that could otherwise give directly to
• 51:01
  the organization.
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: You know, and when you talk.
• 51:04
  Speaker 8: About foundations, we're talking about Rockefeller, We're talking about Carnegie,
• 51:08
  We're talking about a lot of these twentieth century industrialists
• 51:12
  whose families continue to run their fund. I call it
• 51:16
  laundering their reputation, whatever you want to call it. This
• 51:19
  that's where the Rubinstein Foundation all these folks are out
• 51:24
  there giving money to this group. How How does this
• 51:28
  I mean to me? This really puts a serious crimp
• 51:31
  into the activities of a group like Arabella this close
• 51:35
  to the midterms. You know, if if a conservative group
• 51:39
  pulled out of some you know, make America Great pack,
• 51:43
  this would be front page.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: News, bad news for the midterms, you know, big whatever.
• 51:49
  Speaker 8: So codify that for me. What does this mean for
• 51:52
  the midterms?
• 51:52
  Speaker 20: Well, first, let's explain what we're talking about by this
• 51:55
  money being withheld. First, they announced that they are going
• 51:58
  to be not making new investments with Arabella related organizations.
• 52:03
  They're also going to not renew existing grants, and they
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