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August 27, 2026 — "Sammy Chand interviews Yung Sammy" · The Bridge by Sammy Chand

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  Speaker 1: South Asian music and culture can be.
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  Speaker 2: Found around the world.
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  Speaker 1: We track down the best and.
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  Speaker 3: Present it here for you on Ruckus Avenue Radio.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, this is Simmer and you're listening to The Bridge
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  Speaker 4: with Sammy Jund on Ruckus Avenue Radio.
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  Speaker 5: Yo, this is Still Bangles and you're listening to The
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  Speaker 5: Bridge with Sammy Chand only on Ruckus Avenue Radio.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, this is Anuv Jain and you're listening to Ruckus
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  Speaker 3: Avenue Radio.
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  Speaker 6: Sup?
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  Speaker 5: Sup, everybody? Hope you guys are well. Yeah, this is
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  Speaker 5: a little dramatic, isn't it? It kind of fits. My
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  Speaker 5: name is Sammy John, and welcome everybody to an August
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  Speaker 5: 27th edition of The Bridge. And this is a special episode, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Today we'll have one of our favorites here on the show.
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  Speaker 5: We will be joined... by Young Sammy, the hip-hop star
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  Speaker 5: from India, the Nigerian hip-hop star from India. And if
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  Speaker 5: you're familiar with any of his work that you've heard
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  Speaker 5: here on the bridge, you know he's one of the
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  Speaker 5: finest we have in all of Indian hip-hop. And today,
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  Speaker 5: we have an exclusive interview with Young Sammy on this show.
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  Speaker 5: It's a great Thursday episode, and I wanted to thank
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  Speaker 5: you all for joining us today. We'll also be joined
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  Speaker 5: by Dr. Roy, who brings us a daily word on
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  Speaker 5: the avenue. We will be joined by Doita Das Gupta,
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  Speaker 5: who brings you an artist spotlight for the day. But
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  Speaker 5: ladies and gentlemen, today... It's all about Young Sammy and
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  Speaker 5: the exclusive interview that we have coming at you today. So,
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  Speaker 5: let's get into this. Pretty dramatic. We're going to start
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  Speaker 5: off the show with one of the biggest songs that
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  Speaker 5: Young Sammy put out that got everybody's attention. We've got
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  Speaker 5: a show to deliver to you and get you ready
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  Speaker 5: for Young Sammy. Welcome to the bridge.
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  Speaker 4: When he's young, Sam is picking shit up and drop silence.
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  Speaker 6: You bitch all our boys, you know we love violence.
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  Speaker 5: High, sitting in his room, we're high.
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  Speaker 6: One of the greatest of all time. I'm drying my fuzz.
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  Speaker 4: The whole scene is on fire, they have to digest it.
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  Speaker 4: The scene is on fire, and this big one is
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  Speaker 4: getting bites. It doesn't bounce, it's in the ears, that's
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  Speaker 4: when it bounces. If it doesn't bounce, then why do
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  Speaker 4: we do soundcheck? I said soba ki ek baar, zarak
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  Speaker 4: nahi padna zyada zare ajo ek saal mere bare chhe
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  Speaker 4: bhi puche google mein tu name dal ba chhodi pehle
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  Speaker 4: studio aake vamp ya chha ped maar khuddi triki zyada,
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  Speaker 4: toh la pet runga ek baar ek bandi beti saath
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  Speaker 4: kerti sami thoda.
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  Speaker 7: Raise da.
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  Speaker 4: Don't be too frank with me, I'm already in case 5.
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  Speaker 6: The beer is getting.
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  Speaker 4: Low, the girls are getting high, their back is straightening up.
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  Speaker 6: The way we rise from the altar, we're getting shake chili.
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  Speaker 6: The girl is getting angry at you.
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  Speaker 4: Tell her baby let's go, but she's getting stubborn. Look
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  Speaker 4: at you boys running, you're getting tickled.
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  Speaker 6: Spin, rub, silence When he's young, Sam is.
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  Speaker 4: Picking shit Pin, rub, silence You be solo, boys, you
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  Speaker 4: know we love violence High, sitting in his room, we're
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  Speaker 4: high One of the greatest of all time, I'm trying
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  Speaker 4: my best The whole scene is gone, they have to
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  Speaker 4: digest it The scene is on the floor, and this
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  Speaker 4: big one is getting beat It doesn't bounce, it's in
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  Speaker 4: the ears, that's when it bounces If you don't want
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  Speaker 4: to sing, then why do you check the sound? Come on,
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  Speaker 4: come on, okay.
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  Speaker 5: Looking forward to talking to young Sammy. He'll be joining
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  Speaker 5: us very shortly. Excited to ask him about his journey,
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  Speaker 5: of course. I think one of the first thing that
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  Speaker 5: strikes you about young Sammy is the question of how
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  Speaker 5: does a young Nigerian man start rapping in Hindi? How
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  Speaker 5: does that happen? And of course, you probably figure out
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  Speaker 5: that he got there through family, and indeed, that's the case.
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  Speaker 5: He moved there as his father is a pastor and
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  Speaker 5: set up camp there in the Delhi area, the Delhi area.
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  Speaker 5: And the story begins. So we'll ask young Sammy about that.
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  Speaker 5: This is Anirudh Ravichandar.
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  Speaker 7: You like that slow and moonlight dangerous smile. You're making
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  Speaker 7: me stay for a little while.
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  Speaker 2: You're my hangover. You're my hangover.
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  Speaker 7: You're sweet like sin when you move that slow.
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  Speaker 6: Just one more.
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  Speaker 2: Look and I'll lose my soul. You're my hangover. You're
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  Speaker 2: my hangover.
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  Speaker 1: You're my hangover. La la la la la La-la-la-la-la La-la-la-la-la La-la-la-la-la.
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  Speaker 7: You got that red lip whisper with that midnight flame.
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  Speaker 7: What the baby and I ain't the same. You're my hangover.
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  Speaker 7: You're my hangover.
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  Speaker 2: I love you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the songs from our top 10 last week.
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  Speaker 5: As we get ready for that tomorrow, right here on
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  Speaker 5: the show. We've got young Sammy in tow.
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  Speaker 2: Dr.
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  Speaker 5: Roy stopping by here. Doita Das Gupta. This next song
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  Speaker 5: has been sitting at the top spot now for two weeks.
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  Speaker 5: And prior to that, sat at the number two spot
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  Speaker 5: for a couple of weeks. Pretty remarkable. The artist's name
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  Speaker 5: is Farak. The song we have for you here is
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  Speaker 5: called Tareh.
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  Speaker 8: Our thokras have some old traditions.
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  Speaker 6: Those who have only seen love.
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  Speaker 9: He is the bride of the Lord.
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  Speaker 3: Our thokras have some old special ties. Our thokras have
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  Speaker 3: some old special ties. The one who has seen love,
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  Speaker 3: he is the bride of the Lord. The one who
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  Speaker 3: has seen love, he is the bride of the Lord.
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  Speaker 3: Don't ask about the.
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  Speaker 6: Condition of the heart.
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  Speaker 3: It seems like fear for you. This empty house is
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  Speaker 3: not to be looted.
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  Speaker 6: This heart is shaking. That house is empty.
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  Speaker 3: Since when no one has come to help. This paper
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  Speaker 3: is trembling. When the wounds.
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  Speaker 6: Of the heart are fresh.
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  Speaker 3: These words are something like this. Witnesses of this kind.
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  Speaker 10: Pay attention. Witnesses of this kind. Now something has to
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  Speaker 10: be saved from getting it.
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  Speaker 6: What does the bird say?
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  Speaker 10: Gawaiya is kadar ke paane ko ab kuch bachana hai.
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  Speaker 10: Parinda kaed pinjre mein, parinda kaed pinjre mein, usse dar
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  Speaker 10: aasma ka hai.
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  Speaker 3: Kawaaya is kadar ke paane ko ab kuch bachana hai
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  Speaker 3: Parinda kaid pinjere mein usse dar aasma ka hai Jod
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  Speaker 3: gharab toot ke phir wo samete na simat tha hai
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  Speaker 3: Hai parthe is kadar dil pe tarashe na.
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  Speaker 1: Nikharta hai.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you guys are following MTV hustle.
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  Speaker 3: The brand new show is out now.
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  Speaker 5: And I always keep an eye on it, not only
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  Speaker 5: for the great music that is coming out and all
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  Speaker 5: the great artists that are coming out through the show,
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  Speaker 5: but also just from a larger 30,000 foot up kind
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  Speaker 5: of perspective of seeing how the genre is progressing. But
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  Speaker 5: great stuff. Fuddark is one of the big stars on
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  Speaker 5: the show. Make sure you check it out. Some exciting
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  Speaker 5: stuff going on there. Now let's bring in Dr. Roy
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  Speaker 5: to this party.
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  Speaker 6: Hey guys, this is Dr.
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  Speaker 11: Roy with today's Word on the Avenue. In film and
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  Speaker 11: TV news, India's raise for the 2027 Oscars is finally underway,
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  Speaker 11: with the Film Federation of India inviting filmmakers to submit
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  Speaker 11: films for consideration as the country's official entry to the
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  Speaker 11: 99th Academy Awards. In media news, a remarkable Indian love
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  Speaker 11: story has arrived on the New York screen with The
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  Speaker 11: Cycle of Love, a documentary about artist P.K. Mahanandiya, who
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  Speaker 11: cycled nearly 6,000 miles from Delhi to Sweden to reunite
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  Speaker 11: with the women he loved. Premiering at Manhattan's Directors Guild
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  Speaker 11: of America Theatre, the film explores a romance that crossed borders, cast,
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  Speaker 11: and cultural barriers. In event news, Pooja Hegde served as
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  Speaker 11: guest of honor at New York's 44th annual India Day Parade,
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  Speaker 11: proudly waving the Indian flag as thousands gathered along Madison
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  Speaker 11: Avenue to celebrate India's Independence Day. The festivities also featured
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  Speaker 11: stars from Tarak Mehta Ka Ulta Chashma, including Dilip Joshi,
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  Speaker 11: Munmun Datta, and Sonalika Joshi, turning Manhattan into a vibrant
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  Speaker 11: celebration of Indian culture and community.
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  Speaker 6: That's it for today's Word on the Avenue.
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  Speaker 11: Until next time.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you very much, Dr.
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  Speaker 4: Roy.
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  Speaker 5: All right, folks. We've got young Sammy on the line.
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  Speaker 5: He's going to be joining me after I play one
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  Speaker 5: of my favorite songs of his. This song is his
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  Speaker 5: collaboration with See Them Off. The song is called Murder.
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  Speaker 5: Stand by for Young Sammy. I'm really excited about this.
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  Speaker 6: Stand by. Whoa.
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  Speaker 12: Moochodi karte hain balak ya balak ya karte hain moochodi
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  Speaker 12: haan haan Shakle hain dikhti hain news akbaron mai jaa
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  Speaker 12: suna hoon.
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  Speaker 5: Hoon di hoon hoon Kahaan par hai rapper yeh dikhte
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  Speaker 5: nahi gaaya hai dostin yeh SMB flip hori haan.
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  Speaker 6: Jaan war hai baithi teen rapper nahi papa hoon ladko ka.
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  Speaker 12: Chaate mein chupo re haan Yeh mic pit chila rahe
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  Speaker 12: parin ke chaate se vocal nahi clip hori naan Yeh
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  Speaker 12: paise yeh bitches yeh badai.
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  Speaker 1: Kamaaya baas music sab thata bin film hoon ke haan
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  Speaker 1: Greater nerda wala shit hai saad hai sammy joe Ek
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  Speaker 1: bandi mo ko poli.
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  Speaker 13: Kaam se bajna hai don't say no Nae jaun.
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  Speaker 12: Ja paise jaye ja blonde jaye ja booty go.
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  Speaker 1: If the truth be told ya, dono ladke new kya phod.
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  Speaker 12: Young zami aur zideh moth Fake bhai gaad toh tootni.
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  Speaker 13: Hai Baadi rakha pura system Life lage meri.
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  Speaker 12: Movie hai One of a kind aur bitch meri Lage
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  Speaker 12: mujhe kaafi choosy hai Ek bandi hori munse kaafi prank
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  Speaker 12: Mere zare pe chadi ke khudri hai Burst lika maine
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  Speaker 12: UK mein aur Delhi mein jaake yeh take liya Kaafi
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  Speaker 12: pehle se main studio mein locked in LA mein jaake
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  Speaker 12: yeh break liya Don't give a fuck about the price
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  Speaker 12: tax Mera man kiya toh fir le liya Ek beti
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  Speaker 12: chod ka phal tu bhool raha Gadi ki dicky mein
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  Speaker 12: gear liya.
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  Speaker 5: But now I fly that shit.
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  Speaker 6: She know that I ride that shit.
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  Speaker 5: Don't give a fuck about the bitch, she go.
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  Speaker 13: It's a landmine thing, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We'll smoke, we'll drink, we'll pass, we don't have.
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  Speaker 12: To be angry now Bitch, I've been winning in my
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  Speaker 12: gang And I've never raised any snakes I.
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  Speaker 4: Write whatever I feel like I don't want to I
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  Speaker 4: climb on the beat like I've read it somewhere Bags
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  Speaker 4: and bags and bags, damn I don't come down from
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  Speaker 4: the pit I've never raised you more than my own
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  Speaker 4: You've never even pressed Gandhi I.
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  Speaker 8: Take it lightly, I'm in trouble, my poetry is still
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  Speaker 8: not there I don't want trouble, I don't want charlay
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  Speaker 8: I don't give anything like this when I don't have money.
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  Speaker 10: Your head is open like a lock, I put a
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  Speaker 10: chain on your head But it's a tight angle, your
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  Speaker 10: condition is here Your mood will be like this tonight.
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  Speaker 6: And ladies and gentlemen, as you guys all know, I've been.
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  Speaker 5: Looking forward to this.
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  Speaker 12: And probably one of the more emblematic guests that.
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  Speaker 6: We've had.
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  Speaker 5: Here on the bridge. Ladies and gentlemen, it's young Sammy.
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  Speaker 5: How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 6: I'm great, brother. Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me, brother.
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  Speaker 5: It's a treat for us.
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  Speaker 6: I hope you're good.
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  Speaker 5: We're great. We're great. All the way from... Are you
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  Speaker 5: in Lagos right now?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm in Nigeria right now, currently. Beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: Beautiful. And, you know, I think it's unmistakable. And I'm
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  Speaker 5: probably sure that you have been asked this question so
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  Speaker 5: many times, but I'm going to contextualize it here for
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  Speaker 5: the story.
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  Speaker 6: Because as a kid.
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  Speaker 5: You came to India, and one might be thinking how
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  Speaker 5: that happened, but you're a Nigerian pastor's son, you land
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  Speaker 5: in Delhi, and take me back to those first few months.
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  Speaker 5: What was that like for you? How old were you?
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  Speaker 5: And what were you thinking at that time, seeing all
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  Speaker 5: of these different languages being spoken around you?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, bro. Like, basically, I came to India, that was around,
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  Speaker 6: I'll say, 18 to 19 years back. I moved here
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  Speaker 6: with my family. And as my dad is a priest,
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  Speaker 6: he was posted here, like, to India. And, yeah, like,
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  Speaker 6: I'll say I was very young. I was around, I'll say,
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  Speaker 6: seven years old. Yeah, around seven years old. And yeah,
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  Speaker 6: like since then, back then I was just a kid,
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  Speaker 6: you know, with my family, you know, under my parents,
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  Speaker 6: just doing everything according to that and all, you know.
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  Speaker 6: And I schooled here, my college and everything. I grew
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  Speaker 6: up here in India, basically. And I guess back then
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  Speaker 6: it was just like me as a foreigner, like living
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  Speaker 6: a life in India. Yeah. and alongside my parents, you know,
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  Speaker 6: and schooling there. That was just the story back then.
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  Speaker 6: But then I would say after a point of time,
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  Speaker 6: then interest started coming up. Like when I started knowing Hindi,
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  Speaker 6: when I knew Hindi fluently, when I started, you know,
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  Speaker 6: coping up and, you know, with my friends and everything,
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  Speaker 6: I started getting Hindi. When I finally got Hindi, then
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  Speaker 6: I started catching interest in music. Indie music, basically. I
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  Speaker 6: used to listen to a lot of English rap back then.
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  Speaker 6: But then when I started getting indie music because I
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  Speaker 6: knew the language, it started exciting me. So I used
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  Speaker 6: to listen to a lot of Bollywood songs and all.
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  Speaker 6: But then there's one good day that I listened... I
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  Speaker 6: heard Yo-Yo Honey sing song, Ground Run. And that day
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  Speaker 6: was like my first day hearing... Hearing a... First indie rap. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: like I I it was my first time hearing the
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  Speaker 6: indie rap And then I kept you know digging more
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  Speaker 6: like like looking for more raps to hear because it
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  Speaker 6: was so cool for me like wow, like drop in
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  Speaker 6: indy as well, it was like It was kind of
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  Speaker 6: something impossible for me that oh indy cat could have
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  Speaker 6: a rap as well so I used to listen to anything.
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  Speaker 6: Then I got more Bohemia, Mafia Mundi. I started digging
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  Speaker 6: more in indie rappers and everything. And then I was
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  Speaker 6: a good listener for a good couple of years. I
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  Speaker 6: kept listening. And then listening to it, my writing started
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  Speaker 6: getting sharp. And then I started writing. Back then.
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  Speaker 6: It used to look stupid to me. Whatever I used
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  Speaker 6: to write, I'd be like, what am I even writing?
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  Speaker 6: But I kept doing it. I kept doing it. Everything
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  Speaker 6: that was fun. Then one day, I met Honey Thing.
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  Speaker 6: That was in 2000. I'll say, yeah, I met Honey
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  Speaker 6: Thing in 2012. And then when I met him, that
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  Speaker 6: was the day I became more motivated. And I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: now I have to release a song as well. You know,
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  Speaker 6: then I remember back then one of my friends called
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  Speaker 6: Jaz Kumar.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Shout out to him. And I released a track back then.
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  Speaker 6: It was Facebook that was going on back then. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And we released a track on facebook and it was
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  Speaker 6: just a quick track like we didn't know much about
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  Speaker 6: instrumentals or anything like that we just picked the beat
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  Speaker 6: from youtube and just recorded on it and just dropped
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  Speaker 6: it with a video and then the response back then
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  Speaker 6: was crazy like obviously my school friends and everything around
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  Speaker 6: they all loved it and it got good views according
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  Speaker 6: to that time you know yeah and We were kids then.
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  Speaker 6: I was just like, oh, this is crazy. Like, I
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  Speaker 6: guess we should do more. And we kept doing it.
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  Speaker 6: But then I remember a point of time they took
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  Speaker 6: down that song from YouTube. Because as I just said,
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  Speaker 6: I didn't know much about like instrumentals. And, you know,
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  Speaker 6: we didn't know much about beats, production and all. We
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  Speaker 6: just like picked up. a beat from The Nets and
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  Speaker 6: we didn't know about the rights and all those things.
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  Speaker 6: But it took it down after some time from YouTube
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  Speaker 6: and we were wondering what really happened and then we
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  Speaker 6: got to know that, oh, you need to get the
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  Speaker 6: beat first and all those things. And yeah, like since then,
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  Speaker 6: started getting more, started recording more and then I shifted
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  Speaker 6: to Noida. Specifically does you be 16? That's where I
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  Speaker 6: stay now and I met more of my friends more
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  Speaker 6: of my brothers like They were all rappers and then
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  Speaker 6: we started collabing with each other. I'm talking about urban
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  Speaker 6: poet flyboy Vam Vam is my producer that is the
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  Speaker 6: one we even produce. Yes, great. Exactly. Great. Yeah BBB
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  Speaker 6: So all these guys, and then since then we started
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  Speaker 6: collabing with each other. Then we started making, we started
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  Speaker 6: seeing ways. Doors kept opening and yeah, like, you know,
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  Speaker 6: when they say when you, when you meet people with
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  Speaker 6: the same goal, you obviously, you grow, you know, with
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  Speaker 6: those people. So that's how I met them and we
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  Speaker 6: started making songs and all we started doing shows Like
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  Speaker 6: obviously we were not getting paid back back then. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: but yeah, we were just doing it just just for
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  Speaker 6: the Just just for the opportunity just to perform in
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  Speaker 6: front of people Just to you know, the under and
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  Speaker 6: everything was there. We just wanted to be there all
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  Speaker 6: out there and we kept doing things till people started
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  Speaker 6: noticing us and then just to cut the story short,
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: there was a good, fine day.
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: No, no, carry on.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: I love it. Keep going.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: Okay, okay. So yeah, so basically after that, I'll say
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: then we started doing shows and all like free shows, obviously.
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: Like I remember even sometimes we had to pay just
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: to be on that stage and we, and we kept
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: doing it because we just wanted to be out there.
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: We just wanted like the hunger was there. Like we
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: just wanted people to see us and to drop that
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: opportunity and new people to see us and be like, okay,
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: this upcoming guys.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: You know, what years is by the way, just so
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: we have context of like the timeline.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Um, I will say this is like, this crew
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: was still going on about, I'll say five years ago.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Four to five years ago. 21. Like we were
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: still doing shows like that and all. And then at
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: a point of time, um, I used to, uh, like
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: upload a lot of videos on freestyle videos on Instagram,
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: you know, and I'm talking about this time that my
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: parents didn't even know that I used to rap. Like,
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: Because as I told you my dad is a priest.
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: I come from a very religious home So I was
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: not that buoyant. I was not that bold enough to
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: tell my dad that i'm a rapper I want to
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: be a rapper, you know Because I just assumed like
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: it's not that they told me that you must not
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: do this But I always assume that oh if I
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: go and tell my dad they will think you know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: because normally when like I feel people normally think as
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: a rapper you might be like you might be indulging
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: other things as well like that's the like that's the
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: mindset of people so I was like oh let me
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: not tell them because they might not be happy about
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: this and all those things and then I kept doing
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: it I kept stretching it the more I could myself
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: saving money doing this doing video shoots this and that
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: and I kept doing it till they didn't know but
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: I remember some point of time that like, a few
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: videos started going viral on Instagram and then in church.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: When my dad used to go to church, some people
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: would be like, oh, like, in a positive way, obviously,
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: we saw Sammy online. And then my dad would be confused, like,
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: what do you mean, you know?
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: And....
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: Sometimes I remember I was even there once that someone said,
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: I saw your video. I liked your video. And then
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: my dad would be like, wait, what video? But my
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: dad would still be like, okay. So it kept going
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: like that. Then at a point of time, I was
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: called for a TV rap show, which is called MTV Usu. Yeah,
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: we know it well.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: We know it well.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah. So I was called for that. That was around
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: three years ago. And this is the time that, okay,
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: like this time for this opportunity, they know how I
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: can hide it from my family because I had to try,
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: like for me to be part of that show, I
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: had to travel from Delhi to Mumbai and I have
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: to stay there for like almost two to three months,
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: you know? So this was the time that I was like,
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: I have two options. It's either I just go silent
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: and miss this opportunity or it's either I go bold
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: and tell my parents, you know, that this is what
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: I want to do and this is the opportunity I've
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: gotten and they're my parents. Like, let me just go
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: and tell them. I took the courage. I first told
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: my sister because my sister knew that I used to
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: rap because She follows me. I used to see it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: And she supported me.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: So the next thing she could. Wow. So she knew.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: So I disclosed to my sister. I was like, how
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: should I tell my mom and dad? She was like,
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: just go and tell them. Like, just go. Like, I
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: will follow you. I will help you. But you need
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: to save yourself. And I told them. And surprisingly, they
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: took it very positively. Like, I was just thinking in
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: mind that I could have told them all these days
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: and they would have supported me in a lot of things,
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: you know, like monetary, maybe other things. Because when I
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: told them, they were surprised. Like, they were like, okay, like,
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: since when did you start rapping and all those things?
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: I showed them a few of my videos and all
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: and they were like impressed. And then when I told
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: them about the show, they were very happy and very
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: supportive about it. And they were glad. They were like, okay,
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: that's great. All the best and everything. And since then,
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: I kept practicing for the show and all. Then I
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: practiced for the show for a good three months. in
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: which I was like selected, I was making the songs
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: for the show, like for the start of the show,
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: the TV show. But then some, I will say like
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: for now, I will say fortunately, but back then I
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: was like, unfortunately I didn't like towards the end, they
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: told me that I'm not selected. I won't be able to,
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: get in due to some issues. Like they said, um,
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: there's a rule like the.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: Channel citizens only rule or something like that.
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: Wasn't that the story?
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: The story was like, yeah, like only Indian citizens can
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: be part of the show. So that was like, um,
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: I got that news. I'll say two days before I
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: was supposed to get my ticket to go for the show. Wow.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: And that time I remember I was so tired. so
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: like i don't even understand like i was so pissed
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: off i was so sad i was so yeah a
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: lot of things was going on in my mind because
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: more than more than the show what was more important
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: for me was that this is the time i told
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: my parents right about this and this is the time
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: i really want to show them and this is the
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: time i want to make them believe that i can
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: really make it in this but that got cancelled and
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: you know and back then my dad was already very
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: excited to see me on TV like he was actually
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: watching the previous show and imagining me like he was
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: sorry he was watching the previous season of that same
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: show imagining me on the stage you know he used
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: to watch it and it would be like oh you're
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: going to perform on this he was very happy for
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: me you know and then I was so sad that
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: I didn't know how to break that news to him
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: you know I was so sad that I didn't really
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: understand how to tell my dad that it's canceled. You know,
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: every day, like for the good, I'll tell you for
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: good two weeks, I kept just like, he used to
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: ask me, when are you going? When are you going?
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: I just kept saying, oh, it's delayed. They'll call me soon.
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: They'll call me soon. But then at a point of time,
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: I started waking up in the morning, leaving my home
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: and going to the studio with my friends and all that.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: And just coming back in the night when my dad
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: is asleep. just to avoid him, avoid the questions he
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: used to ask me, you know? And, but there was
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: a time that I was like, damn, okay, I'm leaving rap.
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: Like I'm not rapping anymore. This tension is too much,
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: like hiding from my parents. Like they already started showing the, um, the,
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: like the promo of the, of the, um, season, um,
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: in the TV. And my dad already started seeing it.
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: He told me that, oh, they've started shooting. Why are
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: they not calling you? I kept saying oh like I'll
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: soon go I'll soon go Because I didn't know how
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: to just break the news to him because he was
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: also happy. And at the same time, I don't want
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: to like, oh, this is the time they believed in me.
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: And now after practicing for like good two, three months,
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: everything is canceled, you know?
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: It'd be so discouraging to them for sure.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: Totally. Exactly. Exactly. So now what happened was that like
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: there was a point of time. Um, you know, I,
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: I decided that I'm going to leave rap now and
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: I won't, you know, continue. I told my friends, my
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: friends were like, no, bro, like there's not the end
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: and everything. But like from inside, I knew, like, I
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: don't know where I'm going to start from because I
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: really believed in this show. Like, I really believe that
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: I'm going to make it through the show, you know?
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: And then what happened was that I had this one track,
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: which I already stopped. like just before preparing for the, um,
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: the show. Four by four. Yeah. Four by four. Exactly.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: And I had a feature, um, on it. So, which
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: is my, my homie urban boy, you know, I was like, okay,
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: don't let me be selfish about this. That, okay. Even
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: if I'm leaving rap, but I have another artist who
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: has like giving his time and wrote something on, you know,
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: I cannot just like be like, Oh, I'm not releasing
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: the gig while I have another artist on it as well.
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: So I have to respect him. And at least just
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: dropped it. And maybe after that, I quit. So what
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: happened was that I dropped that track. And that same week,
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: that track blew up to an extent that everyone... It
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: blew up to an extent that I woke up one
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: day and Honey Thing was texting me. It blew up
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: to an extent that a lot of artists that I
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: used to look up to, they were following me. Different
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: labels were reaching out to me. Then I was like, damn.
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: And then I finally was speaking to labels and everything.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: And then I came across a very good deal, which
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: was basically true. And the paper I got was looking nice. Like,
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: I mean the contract. And now I was like, okay,
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: now this is the right time to go to my
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: parents and tell them that, okay, that got canceled, but
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: I got a bigger thing. And that's, that's all like,
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: I went there, I told them and I just, but
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: what I really learned from that and what I really,
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: before I went there, I was like, God really does
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: things in his own way. Like sometimes when you feel
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: one way is blocked, but actually it's, it's opening away
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: for you because sometimes, the show actually it was a
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: good thing that happened to me because a lot of
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: people who went to the show there was a contract
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: which was bound which was bounding all of them which
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: was limiting them after the show and I didn't know
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: that I was something is coming up for me which
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: made that to get cancelled and I got a good
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: deal and things started working since then and after 4x4
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: then I dropped more songs with the label and everything
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: with Desi True people started knowing me like 4x4 people
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: just knew oh there's a black guy who raps in
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: Hindi but the songs I dropped after that yeah but
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: the songs I dropped after that they knew me by
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: my name like they knew me by Young Sammy you
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: know they started knowing me as okay there's this guy
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: called Young Sammy like not just a african guy who
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: raps in hindi but they started knowing me like by
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: my name like they started listening to my tracks even
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: not just seeing me as an african obviously that's a
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: plus point which will always remain forever but yeah like
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: um that's how things started going on and i'm dropping
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: tracks and then i started getting you know hits and
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: all by god's grace and people started loving my work
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: and Yeah, we're here today. So that's just about me, like,
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: a small journey that I've been moving on.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Sammy, what a story, man. What a story. Well, my
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: first question to you is this. You, as a Nigerian,
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: how do the folks in Nigeria reflect on what you're
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: doing as someone rapping into them, into Hindi, into any
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: of the Indian dialects, for that matter? I've heard you
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: in so many different ways. But, like, When you take
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: this kind of cultural identity, and we've only talked about
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: it from the context of India, but let's talk about
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: it from the context of Nigeria. What's the reaction there like?
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel... They feel so proud because let me
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: start with the Africans in Nigeria. So basically, um, you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: like I see before it was just like me getting
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: viral and, you know, reels popping up on people's feed
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: and all those things. But now like, it's like the
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: fan base is there now and now it's growing. Now
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: it's growing to an extent that even the Africans in
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: Nigeria are getting, sorry, the Africans in India are, I'm
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: getting to know, like I see a lot of Africans
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: like following and even some of them, they meet me
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: on the way and they will be like, yo, we
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: heard this song, you know, even a lot of Africans
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: in church, I meet them around. They now listen to
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: the songs. Like they don't really understand the language, but
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: they don't, they just love the fact that, Oh, someone
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: from our own community, is like you know representing us
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: in India and people are loving that they just love
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: seeing the visuals they just love listening to that type
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: of music as well like just the flow they understand
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: the flow because I always tend to give, obviously, Hindi
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: and English, but at the same time, I try to
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: give the cultural aspect as well to make it more
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: friendly for everyone around the world, like not just Indian audience,
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: you know. So they started catching it. And even now,
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: it travels to people in Nigeria as well. I see
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: a lot of Nigerians tapping in, you know. And I
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: see a lot of, like, even artists, like Nigerian artists, like,
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: like recently i was approached by um baby do's um
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: i don't know if you know baby do i don't
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: know he's a very big artist from africa got it
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: okay yeah i was speaking to his manager and he
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: was like yo like baby do knows you like he
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: has seen your work and all those things you know
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: so it's a big deal for me because baby do
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: is biggest like it's the top three in nigeria you
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: know wow for me rapping in hindi Yeah. Me rapping
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: in Hindi in India is reaching out to David, though,
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: which is big, you know, and which is like, I
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: feel it's a good thing. Like, it's just like, bringing
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: two cultures together and even like different artists, like Black Bones,
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: a lot of artists I used to listen to, like
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: as a fan, you know, that they, they are tapping
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: and they follow me. They, they, you know, listen to
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: my tracks and all those things, which is a big
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: deal that, okay, even though they're not loved, they don't
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: really know the language, but they still tap them, which
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: simply shows that Indian, Indian rap scene, Indian hip hop
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: can travel worldwide. The language is not a barrier at all. Like,
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: I just feel it's music, so it can travel worldwide.
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: So that's the race I'm running. I just feel it
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: will go ahead someday.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: I'm going to reflect on this point, because obviously as
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: a Punjabi here living in LA and being deeply involved
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: in both sides of the music industry here in not
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: only the US and North America, but the Indian side
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: of it, if I even take a step back from
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: that even further and put myself in the identity of
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: international music, and then when I look at the entire
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: spectrum of the global music industry, there are a few
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: very interesting and very vibrant hip-hop scenes that are happening
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: right now around the world. And both of them happen
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: to be what you're connected to, you know, from your identity.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: I feel like Africa, and specifically, maybe even West Africa
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: is going through a very interesting renaissance, of course, Ghana, Nigeria,
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: that entire belt over there of how much they're affecting
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: global industry. And then you take, you know, the movement
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: of yourself, Hanumankind, and so many other artists that I
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: know that you've referred to in the past as well.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: Let's talk about that. How is this scene being, how
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: is the Indian hip hop scene being seen through your
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: eyes and through your let's just call it your international
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: eyes as well.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm. See, I feel Indian scene, obviously, like, no doubt
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: is growing. Like, if you look at the past three
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: years or past four years, it has drastically changed. Like,
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: people now are turning towards hip-hop in India. Before, like, obviously,
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: Bollywood will remain forever. Of course. But hip-hop now is
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: kind of like, it's trying to reach there. Like, you know,
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: Because before, I remember back then when I was in college,
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: obviously as a rapper, I just love hip-hop tracks more.
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: But the mainstream audience, they're only tapped in with Bollywood music.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: But then I remember in college when me and my
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: friends would be roaming in the cars and all, when
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: I played rap, any hip-hop track in Hindi or something,
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: they'll be like, bro, ban kar yaar. Like, stop this, bro.
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: What are you playing? You know, it's too much of
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: all those things, you know? They'll be like, play this, man. Like,
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: play something Bollywood play, you know? But now, everyone wants
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: to listen to hip-hop. Everyone. Like, any college fest, it's
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: a hip-hop artist. any festival, any hip-hop artists they're looking for.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: Which is a good thing. Before, it's very rare that
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: you're going to see them on a college show. You're
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: going to see any hip-hop act like Divine or something.
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: They used to be, but not that much. But now,
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: any college fest or anything, they're looking for a hip-hop artist.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: That's the first preference. which is a good thing because
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: now it's growing. And I feel now even when the
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: market from this side, from the States, is trying to
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: tap in to Indian market, like for example, Rolling Loud.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: You won't see anything like Rolling Loud. Central Sea has
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: been to, Swaley has been to India. Like Travis Scott
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: has been to India. Like that's like so evident. Like now,
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: like I feel last year, if you check the amount
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: of artists who came, All the way. You see that
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: the hip-hop scene is growing because all we need is
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: just the cross culture to keep mingling with each other,
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: you know? Yeah. To keep growing. That's needed because I
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: feel that Indian hip-hop was a bit undiscovered about three,
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: four years ago. Or I would say like kind of
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: like people were not really interested. And it's like, they,
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: it was kind of like, Oh, what's hip hop in India? Like,
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: how is it possible? But now I feel now everyone
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: is trying to tap in. The labels are coming in. The,
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: like the shows are coming in. I feel rolling down.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: I've come in. I feel a lot. I've heard a
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: lot of IPs, which is, um, out there are coming
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: in India, like very soon. Um, this year to next
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: year you know so I feel this has really grown
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: now like hip-hop listeners in India have also increased now
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: the amount of hip-hop tracks which are charting on Indian
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: VSPs and all you know which is which is which
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: is big you know like now if you're saying top
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: 50 before you cannot see any hip-hop hip-hop track being
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: in a top 50 tracks in India right like that's
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: not possible I'm talking about four years back but now
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: coming to even me like I was saying last year
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: I was part of the top 50 and like my
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: song was part of the top 50 songs in India
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: which is silent you know so it's a big deal
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: like you cannot think about that like four years back
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: And obviously everything, like kudos to Unumankind, you know, everything
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: here also, like, which made the map to open, you know,
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: which made people to discover more. That, okay, if there's
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: someone like Unumankind, who else do we have? Like, who
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: else is coming in? There are many. So I feel,
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: but at the same time, me personally, the day I'm
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: going to say Indian hip-hop has arrived is the day
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: I walk up to any random club in the States
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: let's say maybe i'm in new york i just walked
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: to a club and the day they are playing cdmoth
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: and i'm not surprised i'm not making stories and snaps
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: and videos that's the day i'm gonna say okay indian
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: hip-hop because see why not because the language is not
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: the issue right you know there are a lot of
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: tracks that i have on my playlist that i've been
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: like that is viral but i don't know what they thing.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: I just love the vibe. I feel, why not? It's possible.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: When Central C, if you walk up to any club
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: in India today, even if it's a Desi club or anything,
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: you can hear Central C anytime. Even if you're drinking
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: your first drink, you can hear Central C. Why not?
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: Why can't we have that in the States? I feel
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: there's time to that. It will still take time. It
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: won't happen immediately. But I feel eventually it's going to happen. Like,
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: it might take years. But eventually, the way things are
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: going now, I feel maybe one day it's going to happen.
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: For sure.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: Your words to God's ears, brother. Hopefully that happens very soon.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: And I think it may happen sooner. As I want
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: to turn your attention towards your brand new song, Like That.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: That may be a step towards that direction, if not
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: going into that exact spot that you're describing. And your
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: collaboration with Fijiana, who's an artist here from the Bay Area,
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: who's really caught quite a buzz here in the U.S.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: And it's a collaboration to me that speaks to your
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: level of international collaboration and cultures colliding. But as I
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: was thinking, when you look at the video and you
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: look at the song, it's really interesting to see and
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: to speak to the internationality of the music that you're making.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: Here you are as an African man rapping in an
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: Indian dialect, and here you have somebody of South Asian
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: descent or from the diaspora there, the South Asian diaspora
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: here in North America rapping in English. And you see that,
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: and you're like, wow, this is beautiful to watch. From
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: your perspective... What was this song like to put together
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: for you? It's a really cool song. Shout out to
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: Vomp on yet another amazing beat, of course, on his collaboration.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: But tell us about this track, brother.
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: So basically, all that came about was me and Fijiana
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: have been talking for, I'll say it's been long. I
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: don't really remember since when. But yeah, I've been like, oh,
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: we'll make a track sometime and everything, you know. But
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: I've been doing my thing and I'm sure she was
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: doing the thing as well. So I couldn't, she actually
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: sent me one track, but I couldn't opt on it because,
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: you know, a lot of things was going on as
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: well on my side. I went to a reality show
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: in India and all those things. So I was busy
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: and all those things. So then she actually came to
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: India for some show. She was supposed to perform in
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: a show in Delhi. That's where I stay. And then
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: she told me, she's like, I'm pulling up. I'll have, um,
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: I couldn't attend the show though, but she told me
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: that I'll have a studio session to try to come
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: over there. You know, I was like, why not? Like
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: if she's in India, I should definitely, you know, link up.
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: And then me and vamp, we went there and then
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: she was just like working on something. And she was like, Oh, just,
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: What do you think about this track? Open this. I
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: was like, okay, sure. So that track, the first track
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: we made was actually for her project. Okay. Which is
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: like not out here, obviously. And then, okay, I left
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: the studio. I was like, oh, we have a bander
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: and everything. But then there's one day I was just
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: listening to one of my uncompleted track. Like it's called
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: like that, this one. So I just laid down the
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: hook that time. I was like, oh, I need someone
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: on this. Then I was like, oh, Fijiana is going
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: to be crazy on this. I said it to her,
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: she was like, she loves it. And then she sent
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: the verse, she sent it quick. I'm like, okay, I'm
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: going to release this. I'm going to like put this
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: on my project and I'm definitely going to shoot it
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: in the States. And so I told her, she was like, okay.
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: And after that, we just came up with the track.
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: And then eventually I was working on my mixtape. I
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: was like, this needs to be in the mixtape. And
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: then I need to shoot it in the States. And
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: then I did. I've been there, and we shot it,
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: and it's out to date.
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, congratulations, brother.
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: Yes, sir.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: Brother Young Sammy, I wanted to first of all thank
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: you for your time today. Thank you for hanging out
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: with us here on the bridge, and it's a real
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: treat to speak to you today. If you don't mind,
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: before we go here, can you please introduce yourself? This
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: brand new song called Like That for us.
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: Yo guys, it's your boy Insami and I just dropped
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: a new song today which is part of my mixtape
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: which is called One of a Kind which is yet
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: to be released but Like That is out now which
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: is the lead single of the mixtape and we've dropped
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: the video today so I hope you guys loved it.
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: It's featuring Fijiana and produced by Ram on T-Series. So
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: go check it out and I hope you guys love it.
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: Let's go. Like That.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: I said, baby, why you like that? I said, baby,
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: why you like that? I said, baby, why you like that?
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: I said, baby, why you like that? I said, baby,
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: why you like that?
• 47:46
  Speaker 13: Make it my saying Like that, want it right back
• 47:49
  Speaker 13: Come and grind it, with a slight tank I be
• 47:52
  Speaker 13: seeing you like that Come and hit a three, so
• 47:54
  Speaker 13: I can see you like that Wanna roll with me,
• 47:57
  Speaker 13: cause you know I'm really like that They look with
• 47:59
  Speaker 13: the drive, got the field in a chokehold Scoreboard lighting
• 48:02
  Speaker 13: up fast like a GoPro 24 carats on the neck
• 48:08
  Speaker 13: Go global, sorry trape told me smooth like a ski
• 48:12
  Speaker 13: slope Gold on my waist like C3PO, pretty girl My
• 48:19
  Speaker 13: real heart, yeah.
• 48:20
  Speaker 12: He throw.
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: Young sammy. They want to party.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: Her father says get married. Tell me what happens when
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: she takes off her cardigan. She wants to go home
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: early to make a scene. She holds her hands first
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: and then dances on her fingers. Who is the one
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: who is far away? Tell me, who did you fall
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: in love with? She eats up a lot. Tells me
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: all the problems. How do I trust her when she
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: meets me at the party? You know you a nice guy.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: A little bit of a scoundrel.
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: They see me where.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: The baddies at. The boys go for a walk, pull
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: up in a Cadillac Couple thousand dollars, I just open
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: up my fanny pack She lives in the studio, she
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: be asking me where.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: My daddy at Let me tell you where your.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: Daddy at Boom, boom, flow, studio, I become Jackie Chan
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Wear a Nike and go to the place where your
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: Adidas dealer is The way I love my money, it
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: just look like I could marry.
• 49:08
  Speaker 12: That I said, baby, why you like that?
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: Big shout out to Young Sam.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: I really enjoyed that conversation. One of my favorite parts
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: of that conversation is I just broached the topic of
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: his background and he shot through his whole story for me.
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: In a timeline and in a chronological order that made
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: so much sense. Big shout out to Young Sammy. What
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: a great conversation. Here is Doitha Dasgupta.
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: Hi, everyone.
• 49:44
  Speaker 14: This is Doitha Dasgupta, your Ruckus Avenue radio music correspondent
• 49:47
  Speaker 14: back with another artist spotlight. So let's talk about Anuj Jain,
• 49:52
  Speaker 14: the indie singer-songwriter whose soft acoustic sound and deeply emotional
• 49:56
  Speaker 14: lyrics have made him one of India's most loved independent artists.
• 50:00
  Speaker 14: Born in Mumbai and known for minimalist guitar-driven songs, Anu
• 50:04
  Speaker 14: first broke through with tracks like Barishe, Alaa Ghasman and
• 50:08
  Speaker 14: later the massive hit Hussain which topped streaming charts and
• 50:12
  Speaker 14: cemented his place in the indie scene. Over the last year,
• 50:15
  Speaker 14: he's continued evolving, releasing the heartfelt 2025 single Eenaam, a
• 50:20
  Speaker 14: reflective song about gratitude and success, while also collaborating with
• 50:24
  Speaker 14: artists like A.P. Dhillon on Apsos, expanding his sound beyond
• 50:28
  Speaker 14: his signature style. His Coke Studio Bharat track Aars Kiya
• 50:31
  Speaker 14: Hai also charted strongly, showing his growing crossover appeal. In
• 50:36
  Speaker 14: early 2026, Anuv launched his first ever Dastakat world tour,
• 50:39
  Speaker 14: selling out shows across India, including his biggest ever Valentine's
• 50:43
  Speaker 14: Day performance in Mumbai, a milestone that reflects just how
• 50:47
  Speaker 14: deeply his music connects with fans worldwide. With billions of streams,
• 50:51
  Speaker 14: intimate songwriting and a style that feels like a personal conversation,
• 50:55
  Speaker 14: Anuv Jain continues to prove that simplicity and sincerity still
• 50:59
  Speaker 14: have a powerful place in modern music.
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: Well, that's all from me. Stay tuned for more only
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: on Ruckus Avenue Radio.
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: Thank you very much for that, Doita. Yeah, simplicity, sincerity.
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: Anup Jain carries both of those qualities for sure in
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: his music. And this song of his is easily one
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: of our favorites.
• 51:20
  Speaker 13: On the show.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: He pulls in A.P. Dillon for the collaborations.
• 51:26
  Speaker 15: Teri aataan aataan, teri aataan laike baitha, kahin rataan rataan
• 51:35
  Speaker 15: But today, in these nights, I can see everything with
• 51:42
  Speaker 15: my own eyes. I was proud, I was useless. Today,
• 51:48
  Speaker 15: I realized that it was my fault. I was the
• 51:51
  Speaker 15: light of my heart, I was famous. I keep you
• 51:53
  Speaker 15: away from me, you are innocent. I met my own heart.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: I became my own stranger.
• 51:59
  Speaker 15: I keep your heart away from me. And yes, I
• 52:07
  Speaker 15: saw the world, but I couldn't see your heart. I
• 52:10
  Speaker 15: used to make big promises, but now I'm dying here.
• 52:15
  Speaker 15: Why are you sad now? What's the point of meeting
• 52:20
  Speaker 15: now if you want to? I am now in the
• 52:36
  Speaker 15: hands of the clock How to turn back the path
• 52:40
  Speaker 15: of time A few moments, I listen.
• 52:45
  Speaker 9: To your talks With you, everything ends in the night
• 52:50
  Speaker 9: I see your face and it rains Where do you
• 52:54
  Speaker 9: do this thing of the heart? Kaisi shaam si tere
• 53:06
  Speaker 9: naam si Jo padeya na main ki pegaam si Main
• 53:10
  Speaker 9: haraan si, naadaan si Kis galu meri jaan parejaan si
• 53:14
  Speaker 9: Teno aasde vek ke paar paar Teno kuchhi na main
• 53:18
  Speaker 9: kade tere del di saar Tera intezaar meri samjho baar
• 53:22
  Speaker 9: Keda kate ne tu dena ne tu haar haan Jaan jo.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: Pyaar si tera Thoda.
• 53:29
  Speaker 9: Vi samjh na paaya Main challa challa.
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: Beautiful work.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: Of Source is the song, and of Jane collaborating with A.P. Delon.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: Wanted to give a big, big shout out to young
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: Sammy for joining us today. Let me tell you guys
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: what you guys heard. Seven years old, a pastor's son
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: lands in Delhi from Nigeria, and the school won't even
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: let him skip Hindi class. Eighteen years later, that same language,
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: the one he had no choice but to learn, is
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: the one he's carrying around the world. But here's the
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: part of young Sammy's story I need you to sit with.
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: Three years ago, he finally found the courage to tell
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: his father, a priest, that he was a rapper. He
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: told him because a TV show came calling. He practiced
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: for three months. His dad watched the previous season on television,
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: imagining his son on that stage. And two days before
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: the ticket, they cut him. Wrong passport. He couldn't even
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: bring himself to break the news at home. He almost
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: walked away from rap entirely. And then he dropped one song, 4x4,
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: a track he only released out of respect for his
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: brother's verse on it. It blew up within the week.
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: Honey Singh, the man whose brown rung started this whole journey,
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: was in his phone. The labels came calling, and the
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: artist who was almost finished became the artist who was
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: just beginning. He said it himself today, sometimes when a
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: way looks blocked, It's actually opening one for you. There's
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: something else he said that I'm holding on to. When
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: he started, people knew him as the black guy who
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: raps in Hindi. Now they know him by his name.
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: That's the entire journey right there. From a curiosity to
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: a name. And listen to his benchmark for his culture.
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: Not the charts, not the festivals. The day he walks
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: out onto a random club in New York, hears See
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: Them All playing, and is not surprised. That's the day
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: Indian hip-hop has arrived. Because language was never the barrier.
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: Music travels. That, in his words, is the race he
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: is running. Today he gave us like that. An African
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: man rapping in an Indian tongue. Beside Fijiana, a daughter
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: of the South Asian diaspora herself, rapping in English. Two directions,
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: one bridge, meeting in a song. Lagos to Delhi, to
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: the world. That's young Sammy. And you heard it right
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: here on the bridge. Have a great day, everybody. I'll
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: see you tomorrow.
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: Why don't you do anything?
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: I don't get anything.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: Come on, do it.
• 56:53
  Speaker 8: I don't know what to do. I don't know what
• 56:55
  Speaker 8: to do. I don't know what to do.
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 57:59
  Speaker 16: Paad bro main la javaab bro main Be hisaab je
• 58:05
  Speaker 16: khidze aur phir kaam kharab aaye Chakka main guddiwe munda
• 58:13
  Speaker 16: zantiye Kokniye main fenta kakka gal ki bandiye Jaldiye main
• 58:19
  Speaker 16: jaldiye Chakka chakka bhermiye al narmie Gal banagiye gal banagiye
• 58:28
  Speaker 16: Why don't you do anything for me?
• 58:31
  Speaker 8: I don't get anything from you. Come on, do something
• 58:34
  Speaker 8: for me. I don't know where you came from. I
• 58:35
  Speaker 8: don't know where you came from. I don't know where
• 58:38
  Speaker 8: you came from. I don't know where you came from.
• 58:42
  Speaker 8: I don't know where you came from. I don't know
• 58:45
  Speaker 8: where you came from. I don't know where you came from.
• 58:48
  Speaker 8: I don't know where.
• 58:49
  Speaker 15: You came from.
• 58:50
  Speaker 8: I don't know where you came from. I don't know
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: where you came from.
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: I don't know where you came from. I don't know
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: where you came from. Why are you doing this to me?
• 59:01
  Speaker 8: I don't want to get anything from you. Come on,
• 59:04
  Speaker 8: do it. I don't know how many times I've seen you.
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: To move.
• 59:10
  Speaker 8: I'm doing something else. I don't know where my heart feels.
• 59:14
  Speaker 8: The world is the same. I don't want to meet anyone.
• 59:16
  Speaker 8: Why are you doing this to me? Why are you doing.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: This to me?
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: Why are you doing this to me? Why are you
• 59:31
  Speaker 6: doing this?