Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Dana White Talks UFC Freedom 250, Relationship With Trump, WHCD Shooting, 'Power Slap,' Zuffa Boxing + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hold up every day a week ago.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Click your ass up the breakfast club. You don't finish
- 0:05Speaker 2: the y'all done?
- 0:06Speaker 3: Morning.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Everybody is dj n V jess hilarious, Charlemagne de goud.
- 0:10Speaker 1: We are to breakfast club law. The rules is here
- 0:12Speaker 1: as well. We got a special guest in the buildings.
- 0:15Speaker 1: They're President and CEO of UFC. Ladies and gentlemen, day.
- 0:18Speaker 3: To way, welcome, good morning again.
- 0:20Speaker 1: How are you how you feeling this morning?
- 0:22Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm good. Yeah.
- 0:23Speaker 1: You ever get tired of running around and going from
- 0:25Speaker 1: city to city and doing handling fight to fight?
- 0:27Speaker 3: Do you have it?
- 0:28Speaker 1: Does it ever get tired?
- 0:29Speaker 3: Yeah? It gets Uh.
- 0:32Speaker 4: I'm busier this year than I've ever been with all
- 0:34Speaker 4: the other things that I've taken on. But uh yeah,
- 0:37Speaker 4: oh it's all good. Sometimes traveling gets you know, starts
- 0:40Speaker 4: to yep, kick in the ass a little bit, but
- 0:43Speaker 4: especially as you get older, it's all good.
- 0:46Speaker 5: How long have you been around MMA?
- 0:49Speaker 4: Twenty five years? Well, I mean, I guess you say
- 0:52Speaker 4: twenty eight years, but I've been doing this for twenty five.
- 0:55Speaker 4: Started taking jiu jitsu in like ninety seven and fell
- 0:58Speaker 4: in love with the sport. That's how we ended up
- 1:01Speaker 4: ended up buying the UFCA.
- 1:02Speaker 1: What made you jump into martial arts? Was it protection board?
- 1:05Speaker 4: And well, you know, I was always involved in boxing.
- 1:08Speaker 4: And then my old partner, Frankfurtita, and I were out
- 1:11Speaker 4: at the hard Rock one night in Vegas and we
- 1:13Speaker 4: ran into a guy named John Lewis who fought in
- 1:15Speaker 4: the UFC at that time, and he had a jiu
- 1:17Speaker 4: jitsu school in Vegas. Frank's like, I've always wanted to
- 1:20Speaker 4: try jiu jitsu, So we went over to him, We
- 1:23Speaker 4: talked to him, we set up a lesson on Monday,
- 1:25Speaker 4: and that was the beginning of all of it.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Did you see the UFC explow the weight that it is?
- 1:32Speaker 1: I was at a Pizza Rea the other day yesterday actually,
- 1:35Speaker 1: and he was so excited for the fight. This happened
- 1:37Speaker 1: in NewYork this week. He was like, I'm not the
- 1:39Speaker 1: first row, but I'm the third row. So I can see,
- 1:41Speaker 1: like people are so hype about it. Did you ever
- 1:44Speaker 1: see it exploding the way that it did?
- 1:46Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:47Speaker 4: I think that when we got involved in it, we
- 1:49Speaker 4: became so passionate about it was it was so different
- 1:53Speaker 4: than boxing. The fighters were different than boxers, and we
- 1:57Speaker 4: believed that it could be big and could work everywhere.
- 2:00Speaker 4: I mean, I've always had this philosophy. No matter what
- 2:03Speaker 4: color you are, what country you come from, what language
- 2:05Speaker 4: you speak, we're all human beings and fightings in our DNA.
- 2:08Speaker 4: We get it and we like it. I mean, even
- 2:10Speaker 4: if you say you don't like fighting, if a fight
- 2:12Speaker 4: broke out in that room right now, we'd all.
- 2:13Speaker 3: Run over the glass watch the fight. It's just human nature.
- 2:18Speaker 6: You don't know, somebody got a gun, so you got.
- 2:23Speaker 3: In the White House.
- 2:23Speaker 2: Course, but then.
- 2:28Speaker 4: You're exactly like you would absolutely watch the fight over there.
- 2:32Speaker 6: But people give you a lot of credit for building
- 2:35Speaker 6: the UFC into a global empire, right, but they also
- 2:37Speaker 6: critique you and say you still underpay fighters compared to
- 2:40Speaker 6: like boxing or you know, NBA, NFL, even w w E.
- 2:43Speaker 6: How do you justify being worth billions of dollars but
- 2:46Speaker 6: some fighters still need second job?
- 2:48Speaker 7: Yeah?
- 2:48Speaker 4: Well, listen, I mean I'm sure some some basketball players
- 2:52Speaker 4: and baseball players still need second jobs too until they
- 2:54Speaker 4: make it. What we do is we bring guys in
- 2:57Speaker 4: and and and pay them. Uh, you know, guys make
- 3:00Speaker 4: like ten and ten or fifteen and fifteen to come
- 3:02Speaker 4: in and fight. You might last one fight, you might
- 3:05Speaker 4: not be great, but as you start to prove yourself,
- 3:07Speaker 4: and you know, listen, there's always going to be talk
- 3:10Speaker 4: about fighter pay. I'm in boxing now and all these guys,
- 3:13Speaker 4: all these boxers are signing with us now too. So
- 3:18Speaker 4: I just think that's there's always going to be uh oh,
- 3:22Speaker 4: You're always going to be criticized about something.
- 3:24Speaker 6: But how come when the fighters talk about unions of
- 3:26Speaker 6: collective bargaining, the UFC X like it's the enemy, Like
- 3:28Speaker 6: why we.
- 3:29Speaker 4: Don't knock like that's the enemy. I mean, if the
- 3:33Speaker 4: if the fighters wanted to unionize, that's up to them.
- 3:35Speaker 3: It's not up to me.
- 3:36Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so you encourage it. Sure, I listen, we
- 3:40Speaker 4: always have to deal with somebody. It could be a
- 3:43Speaker 4: manager and agent. You know, everybody's gotten into this, some
- 3:46Speaker 4: of the some of the biggest lawyers and you know
- 3:49Speaker 4: in the world have gotten into this. Agents, Hollywood, I mean, everybody.
- 3:53Speaker 4: We always have to deal with somebody, We have to
- 3:55Speaker 4: negotiate with somebody.
- 3:56Speaker 1: With UFC being so brutal at times, was there ever
- 3:59Speaker 1: a concern with them not approving the fighting in certain
- 4:02Speaker 1: states or certain places, because I mean, like boxing, it
- 4:04Speaker 1: seems like, you know you can it's round, right, it's
- 4:07Speaker 1: a referee to stop it. Sometimes UFC is like they
- 4:09Speaker 1: gonna beat the issh out of him until he actually dies,
- 4:12Speaker 1: because you actually what until he actually does it seems
- 4:15Speaker 1: like sometimes.
- 4:15Speaker 4: Listen some of these fights. Believe me, there are fights
- 4:18Speaker 4: that I sit there and watch. When it's over, I go,
- 4:20Speaker 4: what do I do for a living? This is insane?
- 4:23Speaker 4: But when you spend the right amount of money on
- 4:26Speaker 4: health and safety before they get in there, during and after.
- 4:32Speaker 4: In the thirty year history of the UFC, there's never
- 4:34Speaker 4: been a death or serious injury, even after the craziest
- 4:37Speaker 4: fight you've seen. Cheerleading can't say.
- 4:39Speaker 1: That it's a cheerleading.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Cheerleading can't say that.
- 4:43Speaker 2: The competitive cheerleader. They get hurt a lot.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:46Speaker 4: Fall of my daughter in high school was part of
- 4:49Speaker 4: the you know, the hardcore competitive cheerleading, and she was
- 4:53Speaker 4: so busted up in high school.
- 4:54Speaker 3: It was crazy.
- 4:55Speaker 4: Yeah, But thirty years, no death or serious injury in
- 5:01Speaker 4: the UFC.
- 5:03Speaker 8: Many sports serious energy, I mean serious injury, Yeah, damn.
- 5:08Speaker 5: Maybe beating the ship out of each other.
- 5:09Speaker 3: Right, that's so true, so true.
- 5:12Speaker 6: Now, were talking about the White House cost board has
- 5:14Speaker 6: then a little bit. You said it was fucking awesome,
- 5:16Speaker 6: a unique experience, and everybody was laying how you didn't
- 5:18Speaker 6: get down when the gun shots, you know, went off?
- 5:21Speaker 6: Why because you know it was stage.
- 5:23Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 5:23Speaker 4: I mean, you don't know how you're going to react
- 5:25Speaker 4: in those type of situations until you're in them. But
- 5:28Speaker 4: you know, being a guy, first of all, we're sitting
- 5:33Speaker 4: there and they just set the whole thing up, and
- 5:35Speaker 4: they said, we're gonna eat and then this thing is
- 5:37Speaker 4: gonna start, and.
- 5:38Speaker 2: With the shooting, the show gonna start.
- 5:44Speaker 4: They were going to serve dinner first, and literally they
- 5:46Speaker 4: just brought the salads out. And uh, I was sitting
- 5:50Speaker 4: there talking to Pete. Hegxi's and and and I don't
- 5:53Speaker 4: hear well and my left ear. I'm one hundred percent
- 5:56Speaker 4: deaf in my left ear, so I didn't hear the shots.
- 5:59Speaker 4: All I heard was plate smashing and glasses and and
- 6:04Speaker 4: and these guys. I turn around and literally fifty guys
- 6:08Speaker 4: are coming through the room and they got their guns out.
- 6:10Speaker 4: They get the president, the vice president, all the media
- 6:13Speaker 4: people off the stage, and now the stage is filled
- 6:16Speaker 4: with people with guns pointed at us, with the lights
- 6:19Speaker 4: on the end of them, and everybody's yelling, get the
- 6:20Speaker 4: fuck on the ground. And I just was like, holy shit,
- 6:24Speaker 4: this is incredible. If you think about like the greatest
- 6:29Speaker 4: movie you've ever seen, and you watch the way that
- 6:32Speaker 4: these Secret Service guys came into the room and how
- 6:35Speaker 4: they were I was just like this and to be
- 6:37Speaker 4: in a situation like that and.
- 6:39Speaker 3: Nobody gets hurt.
- 6:41Speaker 4: And then and even think about this, the media that
- 6:45Speaker 4: were in the room that night were mostly women. No screaming,
- 6:49Speaker 4: no yelling. Everybody just got on the ground, and it
- 6:51Speaker 4: was just such a crazy unique hopefully one of one
- 6:55Speaker 4: experienced that.
- 6:58Speaker 5: That one woman scream at all at all.
- 7:02Speaker 4: And then when it was your left side, that's fucking brilliant, brilliant.
- 7:09Speaker 4: You might be right.
- 7:11Speaker 3: I didn't hear any screaming for many women.
- 7:15Speaker 4: Yeah, it was uh And then after it was over,
- 7:19Speaker 4: and and and the other thing is when this is happening,
- 7:22Speaker 4: we don't know what's going on. Is there a shooter
- 7:25Speaker 4: in there are bullets about to start flying, is there
- 7:27Speaker 4: a bomb? You know, we don't know what's going on,
- 7:29Speaker 4: and it's just, uh, my my adrenaline was, I mean,
- 7:34Speaker 4: I I don't even I can't even explain it. For
- 7:36Speaker 4: the next four hours, I was bouncing off the walls.
- 7:38Speaker 4: It was just, uh, yeah, it was pretty It was
- 7:41Speaker 4: pretty bad.
- 7:41Speaker 6: As you used to fight USC you like that type
- 7:46Speaker 6: of adrenaline. Probably never used the condom in your life.
- 7:48Speaker 4: I do, and I've obviously never been in any type
- 7:53Speaker 4: of situation like that in my life. It was it
- 7:56Speaker 4: was a really unique experience. You know, I know a
- 7:59Speaker 4: lot of people it sounded twisted, but let me tell
- 8:02Speaker 4: you what. As a guy and and uh, that's never
- 8:06Speaker 4: been in something like that, it's just it's it's hard
- 8:09Speaker 4: to explain, but it was pretty bad ass.
- 8:12Speaker 1: I was gonna say, whose idea was it to have
- 8:14Speaker 1: a UFC fight on the White House lawn? How did
- 8:17Speaker 1: that come about?
- 8:18Speaker 4: So the President was at one of the fights, I
- 8:20Speaker 4: can't remember if it was in New Jersey or Miami,
- 8:23Speaker 4: and he leans over to me and goes, you know what,
- 8:25Speaker 4: we should do a fight at the White House.
- 8:28Speaker 3: I said, yes, yes, we should. I like it.
- 8:32Speaker 4: Literally how it started, Oh, he doesn't bullshit, So when
- 8:35Speaker 4: he says he's going to do something, he does it.
- 8:37Speaker 4: Literally Monday, people started calling and trying to set it up.
- 8:40Speaker 4: And that was Saturday and Monday they called and started
- 8:43Speaker 4: setting it up. Yeah, I'm not going to say no
- 8:47Speaker 4: to doing a fight at the White.
- 8:48Speaker 1: How does that work? Who gets invited? Do you have
- 8:50Speaker 1: to go through protocol?
- 8:51Speaker 3: Like?
- 8:51Speaker 1: How does that work? As far as you know celebrities
- 8:53Speaker 1: and people coming? And yeah, some of the fighters.
- 8:56Speaker 4: I have two hundred tickets, Ari Emmanuel has two hundred tickets,
- 9:00Speaker 4: and the president has a thousand tickets. There's four there'll
- 9:03Speaker 4: be like a little over four thousand people there. Most
- 9:07Speaker 4: will be military, every branch of the military will be there.
- 9:12Speaker 4: And uh, you know there's fourteen hundred tickets between me,
- 9:15Speaker 4: are and the president.
- 9:16Speaker 6: Do you understand why some people see that as sports
- 9:18Speaker 6: history while others see it is just like state sponsored
- 9:21Speaker 6: political theaters.
- 9:22Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the people are you know, everybody's going to
- 9:25Speaker 4: have an opinion about something like this. But you know,
- 9:28Speaker 4: why would I not If you're offered to do something
- 9:33Speaker 4: at the White House, why would you not do it?
- 9:35Speaker 4: Especially on America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday. Pretty incredible,
- 9:40Speaker 4: great opportunity.
- 9:41Speaker 7: I'm just gonna say it. Just there's just so much
- 9:43Speaker 7: going on right now that it just seems like, you know,
- 9:46Speaker 7: the energy, the focus, the resources, that everything could just
- 9:49Speaker 7: go somewhere else.
- 9:50Speaker 4: Well point just for the so we're clear, the US
- 9:55Speaker 4: taxpayers aren't paying anything. We're flipping the whole bill for
- 9:57Speaker 4: this thing.
- 9:58Speaker 2: And he told us about the ballroom too.
- 10:00Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is a fact. I don't know about
- 10:03Speaker 3: the ball room. I'm not involved.
- 10:04Speaker 4: That we're paying for everything, literally everything, and we can't
- 10:08Speaker 4: sell a hot dog, a T shirt, a ticket, nothing,
- 10:12Speaker 4: We're flipping the bill for everything. And my thing is always, uh,
- 10:18Speaker 4: there's always something going on. There's always gonna be something else,
- 10:21Speaker 4: always something bad. Plus we're a global business. You know,
- 10:24Speaker 4: when the Ukraine Russia war started and people were saying,
- 10:27Speaker 4: oh my god, you can't have Russians fight. I have
- 10:29Speaker 4: Russians under contract. They have to feed their families. I
- 10:32Speaker 4: have Palestinians, I have Jewish fighters, I have You know,
- 10:37Speaker 4: there's always gonna be something bad going on in this world,
- 10:40Speaker 4: and I run a global business.
- 10:42Speaker 6: You know, you own a Katie Miller podcast and you said,
- 10:45Speaker 6: in regards to your relationship with Trump and has it
- 10:47Speaker 6: cost the UFC business, you said, I don't give a shit.
- 10:50Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that question.
- 10:51Speaker 6: I've gotten to a point in my life especially after
- 10:53Speaker 6: COVID and all that nutty shit that went on during
- 10:56Speaker 6: that time, that I only want to be in business
- 10:57Speaker 6: with and talk to people that I'm aligned with.
- 11:01Speaker 4: Well, I don't know about talk to people that I'm
- 11:03Speaker 4: aligned but I want to do business with people that
- 11:05Speaker 4: I'm aligned with.
- 11:05Speaker 2: For sure, You're aligned with Trump on what exactly.
- 11:08Speaker 4: Well, Trump is a good friend of mine. I mean
- 11:11Speaker 4: I've been friends with him for twenty five years.
- 11:14Speaker 3: Friends.
- 11:14Speaker 4: I mean, he just happened to become the President of
- 11:17Speaker 4: the United States and he and I have never had
- 11:22Speaker 4: a He had us at the at the Trump doj
- 11:26Speaker 4: Mahal when we first bought this company. The stigma that
- 11:29Speaker 4: was attached to this thing. You can imagine think about this.
- 11:31Speaker 4: It wasn't allowed on pay per view, You as a
- 11:34Speaker 4: grown adult, didn't have the option to buy it on
- 11:36Speaker 4: pay per view. Porn was on pay per view, the
- 11:39Speaker 4: UFC was not allowed on. That was the uphill battle
- 11:42Speaker 4: we had. So you can imagine venues didn't want us
- 11:45Speaker 4: because you know, these guys were like, what kind of
- 11:47Speaker 4: people will show up to watch this kind of an event.
- 11:51Speaker 4: And he had us at the Trump to Mahal for
- 11:52Speaker 4: the first two fights. You know, thirty and thirty one,
- 11:56Speaker 4: UFC thirty and thirty one, and then after wed those
- 12:00Speaker 4: two first you showed up for the first fight of
- 12:02Speaker 4: the night and stayed till the end for both events.
- 12:05Speaker 4: And you think the Trump brand then, and the UFC
- 12:08Speaker 4: brand and every good thing that ever happened to me,
- 12:11Speaker 4: uh in my career after that. He was always the
- 12:14Speaker 4: first guy to reach out. So then when he was
- 12:17Speaker 4: running and in sixteen he called me and asked me,
- 12:21Speaker 4: would you speak for me at the at the Republican Convention.
- 12:24Speaker 4: And everybody told me not to do it, don't do it.
- 12:26Speaker 4: This is going to be bad and he's never gonna
- 12:28Speaker 4: win and all that kind of stuff. But this was
- 12:31Speaker 4: a guy that was always good to me and you know,
- 12:33Speaker 4: always treated me well, and I did it.
- 12:36Speaker 2: I can understand that. You know, that's your friend.
- 12:38Speaker 6: But when your friend had a disapproval rating of sixty
- 12:41Speaker 6: two percent, right record high. People say they don't like
- 12:43Speaker 6: his handling of Diran war, the economy, shitty cost of
- 12:47Speaker 6: living for people, who's fucked up. Why can't you tell
- 12:49Speaker 6: your friend he's failing to people as a friend.
- 12:53Speaker 4: Well, he's the president of the United States, And yeah,
- 12:57Speaker 4: I know, but you know for me to get involved
- 12:59Speaker 4: in It's like if your friend had to be I'm
- 13:02Speaker 4: I'm sure people disagree with you and that that are
- 13:05Speaker 4: friends with you, and everybody has friends that you just
- 13:07Speaker 4: doesn't mean you're not friends with him anymore.
- 13:09Speaker 3: It's doesn't mean that you're well.
- 13:10Speaker 2: And I just say you shouldn't be friends with him.
- 13:12Speaker 6: I just said, why can't you tell you a friend,
- 13:14Speaker 6: he's failing the people because you are the same people
- 13:16Speaker 6: who make you see a success.
- 13:18Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. I don't know if I agree that
- 13:20Speaker 4: he's failing the people. I think that when the when
- 13:25Speaker 4: the president is done in three years, people will look
- 13:28Speaker 4: back on and realize a lot of the good things.
- 13:31Speaker 3: See.
- 13:31Speaker 4: I'm closer to him too, and I see all the
- 13:33Speaker 4: good things that he does that a lot of people
- 13:37Speaker 4: you know, either don't see or don't want to see.
- 13:39Speaker 6: But tariff inflation has increased the price of household goods,
- 13:42Speaker 6: increased utility bills because household electricity costs have gone up
- 13:45Speaker 6: nine percent. Failure, the failure to Extending Affordable Care ACTAU
- 13:49Speaker 6: is fuck the people's health care. Every day working class
- 13:52Speaker 6: people who support your sport.
- 13:54Speaker 4: You're never gonna have a president that that sits in
- 13:58Speaker 4: the White House that ever buddy approves one hundred percent
- 14:01Speaker 4: of everything they do, and not everything is always going
- 14:04Speaker 4: to be perfect. You're gonna have some things that work
- 14:07Speaker 4: out great and a lot of things that don't. It's
- 14:09Speaker 4: just it's no different than than than running a business
- 14:12Speaker 4: or or or any other thing. Nobody's ever going to
- 14:15Speaker 4: be absolutely perfect when they're the president of the area.
- 14:19Speaker 4: Can you tell your friend when he's Yeah, we talk
- 14:21Speaker 4: about a lot of things, but I don't try to
- 14:22Speaker 4: get into everything he's doing.
- 14:25Speaker 3: Uh.
- 14:26Speaker 4: Well, like I just said, you're never going to agree
- 14:29Speaker 4: with everything. But you know, as a friend, I'm not
- 14:31Speaker 4: going out there and he and I have never other
- 14:34Speaker 4: than the first two UFC events that nothing with us
- 14:38Speaker 4: is transactional. I'm not trying. He doesn't call me and like,
- 14:43Speaker 4: I'll give you an example of the White House fight.
- 14:47Speaker 4: Other than Derek Lewis the black beast, other than him,
- 14:51Speaker 4: he didn't tell me, Hey, put this guy do this.
- 14:54Speaker 4: We're sitting at the fight in Miami a couple of
- 14:56Speaker 4: weeks ago, and he says, why is the black beast
- 14:59Speaker 4: Derek Lewis?
- 14:59Speaker 2: Don doesn't make.
- 15:00Speaker 4: That's he's the president. One of the President's favorite fighters. Okay,
- 15:08Speaker 4: so he says to me, why is he not on
- 15:10Speaker 4: the card. I literally got up and walked over to
- 15:14Speaker 4: my matchmaker, Mick. I said, get Derek on the phone.
- 15:17Speaker 4: Called Derek and I said, hey, the President wants to
- 15:20Speaker 4: know why you're not on the White House card. He said, politics,
- 15:22Speaker 4: That's why I'm not. Derek Lewis is incredible and I said,
- 15:26Speaker 4: he wants you on the card. You want to fight
- 15:28Speaker 4: in the card? He said, tell him, thank you, I'd
- 15:29Speaker 4: love to. We get him on. We put him on
- 15:31Speaker 4: the card. Now we got to find him opponent in
- 15:33Speaker 4: this crazy fight plays out that night between Curtis Blades
- 15:38Speaker 4: and Hoke It and it was an incredible fight. They're
- 15:42Speaker 4: literally putting Hoke It in the ambulance and uh, Mick
- 15:45Speaker 4: goes back and says, you want to fight Derek Lewis
- 15:47Speaker 4: on the White House card? And he said yeah. The
- 15:49Speaker 4: fight was literally made that night during the fight. But
- 15:52Speaker 4: my point in the story was, you know he doesn't.
- 15:55Speaker 4: It's just we don't have we don't do that.
- 15:57Speaker 2: Your relationship with Trump is bigger than business, is actually personal.
- 15:59Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 16:00Speaker 4: Absolutely, we have a real friendship, not some type of
- 16:04Speaker 4: you know, he has lots of friends, especially now that
- 16:07Speaker 4: he's the president. We don't have that. We've had a
- 16:10Speaker 4: twenty five year real friendship in real relation.
- 16:13Speaker 6: But you'll be a glazer, don't be what a glazer like,
- 16:17Speaker 6: just somebody that just tells him he's great. A yes
- 16:19Speaker 6: man basically.
- 16:20Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 16:21Speaker 4: I don't think anybody's ever accused me of being a
- 16:23Speaker 4: yes man, and I think that's that that's part of it.
- 16:30Speaker 4: But listen, I'm not an overly political person either, you
- 16:34Speaker 4: know what I mean?
- 16:34Speaker 2: And so are you part of the MAGA movement culturally?
- 16:38Speaker 3: What do you mean culturally?
- 16:40Speaker 2: Are you part of the Maga movement? Culturally? Do you
- 16:43Speaker 2: align with their ideologies and their values?
- 16:45Speaker 4: You know, I consider myself right down the middle or
- 16:49Speaker 4: leaning a little liberal, to be honest with you. Everybody
- 16:52Speaker 4: thinks I'm some far right guy because of our relationship.
- 16:56Speaker 4: You know, I'm more about common sense. I'm a common
- 17:01Speaker 4: sense guy, and if it makes sense to me, then
- 17:05Speaker 4: I'm probably in.
- 17:06Speaker 6: So when you see the Joe Rogue, the THEOVA Andrew
- 17:09Speaker 6: Schultz is actually you know, calling out Trump and what
- 17:12Speaker 6: they don't like, what do you what do you think
- 17:13Speaker 6: of it?
- 17:14Speaker 4: I think that everybody's entitled to their own opinions and
- 17:17Speaker 4: and uh you know, uh yeah, it's if you if
- 17:21Speaker 4: there's things that you see that you don't like and
- 17:24Speaker 4: you want to be political, call him out.
- 17:26Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's interesting.
- 17:27Speaker 6: Most CEOs try to stay politically neutral to protect the brand.
- 17:31Speaker 2: You almost seem kind of like proud to be.
- 17:36Speaker 3: Proud to be political. I guess, not proud to be political.
- 17:39Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just saying that this guy is my friend,
- 17:43Speaker 4: and nothing is perfect, and you know, whoever is the
- 17:46Speaker 4: next president, right or left, is it going to be
- 17:49Speaker 4: perfect either. I just think that, Uh, I don't base
- 17:53Speaker 4: my relationship with him on politics.
- 17:58Speaker 7: Well what about when people say that you're the reason
- 18:00Speaker 7: why a lot of young male voters because of you know,
- 18:02Speaker 7: you have seen everything that you have voted for Trump
- 18:05Speaker 7: and that was something that like, even if you didn't
- 18:07Speaker 7: mean to do, it was wide he talked about and
- 18:09Speaker 7: you still leaned into helping his popularity in the space.
- 18:12Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm okay with that.
- 18:16Speaker 7: But that gets political then Yeah, yes.
- 18:19Speaker 6: So you're responsible for the high tariffs and the high
- 18:21Speaker 6: inflation costs and.
- 18:23Speaker 3: I guess so, I guess that's the way you want
- 18:24Speaker 3: to look at.
- 18:28Speaker 6: People's healthcare, getting cut. I'm just saying, like, that's what
- 18:30Speaker 6: you're essentially saying.
- 18:31Speaker 4: Okay, Jesus, I mean I don't that's not the way
- 18:34Speaker 4: I look at it, But I guess I could see
- 18:36Speaker 4: why you would look at it that way, and you could,
- 18:38Speaker 4: you know, frame it like that.
- 18:41Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:42Speaker 7: I've even seeing people go as far as like, because
- 18:43Speaker 7: I know we people say that like Baron put Trump
- 18:46Speaker 7: onto like a lot of the podcasts. But I've seen
- 18:47Speaker 7: people say that you and your relationships also were the
- 18:50Speaker 7: reason why he sat down with certain people during the campaign,
- 18:52Speaker 7: which was really successful.
- 18:53Speaker 4: That's definitely true. I told him if you stay on Fox,
- 18:55Speaker 4: you're never gonna win.
- 18:57Speaker 3: Uh.
- 18:57Speaker 4: You know, most of the people that are on Fox
- 18:59Speaker 4: already for every other network says you're, you know, a
- 19:03Speaker 4: fascist and a racist and you know all these other
- 19:06Speaker 4: horrible things. And yeah, I definitely was the one that
- 19:11Speaker 4: leaned him into doing podcasts and things like that. And
- 19:14Speaker 4: the other thing that I knew is that you can
- 19:16Speaker 4: put Trump on a five hour podcast and and he
- 19:21Speaker 4: will do just fine. You know, he's good. Kamala could
- 19:25Speaker 4: not could not do a five hour podcast?
- 19:28Speaker 1: Did you ask what else did you tell him to do?
- 19:31Speaker 1: A not to do? Did you say, hey, Trump, you
- 19:32Speaker 1: should stay away from this, or maybe you should do
- 19:34Speaker 1: this more?
- 19:34Speaker 7: What?
- 19:35Speaker 3: None of that.
- 19:37Speaker 4: So, so what originally happened was he was picking me
- 19:40Speaker 4: up in Vegas and we were flying to a rally
- 19:44Speaker 4: down in Arizona. And this when he was still the president,
- 19:49Speaker 4: and I called Jared Kushner and I said, hey, there's
- 19:53Speaker 4: this there's a group of kids called the Nelk Boys
- 19:55Speaker 4: that they're influencers. I want to bring them with us
- 20:00Speaker 4: to Arizona on the plane. And Jared goes, yeah, you're
- 20:03Speaker 4: asking him that, I'm not so so I called him
- 20:07Speaker 4: and he said, yeah, yeah, whatever you want to do.
- 20:10Speaker 4: And so we flew down there and we were in
- 20:14Speaker 4: the back. There's a conference room in the back of
- 20:16Speaker 4: Air Force one. And then he called us up to
- 20:18Speaker 4: his office and we went in there and you know,
- 20:20Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys know who the Milk
- 20:22Speaker 4: Boys are, if you've ever seen him, but and we're
- 20:25Speaker 4: in there taking pictures and stuff, and you know, at
- 20:28Speaker 4: some point it gives me this look like you gotta
- 20:30Speaker 4: be fucking kidding me right now. And we get to
- 20:34Speaker 4: the rally. He does his rally and again, you know,
- 20:38Speaker 4: to his brilliance he sees Steve will do it out
- 20:41Speaker 4: in the crowd, he calls Steve up on stage when
- 20:43Speaker 4: he's walking out and leaving, you know, doing the YMCA thing,
- 20:46Speaker 4: and the whole crowd erupted when Steve got up on
- 20:49Speaker 4: stage with him, and he felt it and he did
- 20:51Speaker 4: their podcast right after that. I was, you know, and
- 20:56Speaker 4: that was when it did like eight million views and
- 20:59Speaker 4: two or three three hours, and then YouTube pulled it down,
- 21:02Speaker 4: and then that started that whole social media thing that
- 21:04Speaker 4: started to happen, uh with them pulling him off social media.
- 21:09Speaker 6: Would you feel the same way if if your political
- 21:12Speaker 6: allegiance started costing fighters, like opportunities internationally are impacted the
- 21:15Speaker 6: business of the USC.
- 21:17Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I ask that again.
- 21:19Speaker 6: Would you feel the same way about, you know, your
- 21:21Speaker 6: friendship if that political allegiance started to cost fighters opportunities
- 21:26Speaker 6: internationally are impacted the business of the USC.
- 21:29Speaker 3: And in what way how would it cost fighters opportunities?
- 21:31Speaker 6: Like I don't know if people just was like, you know,
- 21:35Speaker 6: I don't want you all over here because y'all are
- 21:36Speaker 6: feel ad.
- 21:37Speaker 2: With the USC.
- 21:38Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't know, I don't know.
- 21:41Speaker 4: I guess i'd have to I'd have to Uh, I'd
- 21:46Speaker 4: have to face it would have to happen for me
- 21:48Speaker 4: to think of how to deal with it and what
- 21:49Speaker 4: would be the what would.
- 21:50Speaker 3: Be the reasons? And uh yeah, I don't know.
- 21:54Speaker 6: I guess when you just look around at everything that's
- 21:56Speaker 6: going on in society and you noticed working class people
- 21:58Speaker 6: that support the US see and Trump is your friend,
- 22:01Speaker 6: you got to direct line to him some point. You
- 22:03Speaker 6: got to tell him a lot of the stuff that
- 22:05Speaker 6: he's doing wrong that's hard working class people.
- 22:07Speaker 3: Well, I'm.
- 22:09Speaker 4: I'm not involved in in I'm not part of his cabinet.
- 22:14Speaker 4: I'm just one of his friends. But I don't but
- 22:18Speaker 4: I don't have cabinet, But I don't necessarily agree uh
- 22:24Speaker 4: politically that you know, all these bad things are happening.
- 22:27Speaker 4: I mean, and I'm not inside enough to sit down
- 22:31Speaker 4: and and get political with him and talk about this stuff. Uh.
- 22:35Speaker 4: It'd be like, uh, you know, if you if you
- 22:37Speaker 4: had a buddy that ran a business and you know
- 22:39Speaker 4: you're going and you're you're giving him a bunch of
- 22:41Speaker 4: advice how to run his business and think he's doing
- 22:44Speaker 4: this wrong or that wrong. It's just I'm just not
- 22:47Speaker 4: that guy.
- 22:47Speaker 3: You know what I do.
- 22:49Speaker 4: I have my little world and my bubble that I
- 22:51Speaker 4: deal with, my employees that I have to take care of.
- 22:53Speaker 4: Like during COVID, you know, we were looking at at
- 22:56Speaker 4: a position where we might have to lay people off,
- 22:58Speaker 4: people that have been with me fifth twenty years. Me as
- 23:02Speaker 4: the leader of what I do. I have to take
- 23:05Speaker 4: care of my people, my family, my friends, and my
- 23:08Speaker 4: own little world and my own little bluff. I'm not
- 23:10Speaker 4: flying out the Washington to sit down with the president
- 23:12Speaker 4: and you know, walk through all the things that I
- 23:15Speaker 4: think are right and wrong with.
- 23:16Speaker 3: With with the country.
- 23:17Speaker 6: Sure, but you got to get out that bubble and
- 23:20Speaker 6: look at the people who support ufcah. Those are the
- 23:23Speaker 6: working class people that are hurting. Like, That's who I'm
- 23:27Speaker 6: talking about, Like you've got to be concerned about.
- 23:29Speaker 3: I can tell you this.
- 23:30Speaker 4: No UFC fans have ever come to me and said, hey, listen,
- 23:33Speaker 4: we're hurting. We need you to talk to the president.
- 23:36Speaker 4: You know, nobody's ever It's the complete opposite. I mean
- 23:40Speaker 4: I just went to the Derby on Saturday and literally
- 23:42Speaker 4: everybody was coming up to me saying thank you for
- 23:45Speaker 4: supporting the president and thank you for you know, I
- 23:48Speaker 4: never get the opposite, never, never, not once on my
- 23:52Speaker 4: children's life has somebody come up to me and said,
- 23:56Speaker 4: you know, your buddy's blowing it, he's doing this, you
- 23:59Speaker 4: know you need to do this, or that.
- 24:00Speaker 3: I've never ever had.
- 24:02Speaker 9: On one side. If you stayed on one side, you
- 24:09Speaker 9: never happened. It's never happened. If it did happen, I'd
- 24:11Speaker 9: say it. I wouldn't, I wouldn't lie about it. I'd say, listen,
- 24:13Speaker 9: I get you know. Some people come up and say
- 24:15Speaker 9: that it's never happened to me ever.
- 24:17Speaker 2: And I would say, the irony of you being deaf
- 24:18Speaker 2: on the left side. But it's not just the left.
- 24:20Speaker 2: There's a lot of.
- 24:23Speaker 3: It's a lot brilliant to there's a lot of everybody
- 24:27Speaker 3: you know that's well.
- 24:28Speaker 1: I guess criticize you guys and say that a lot
- 24:30Speaker 1: of times you pick fights based off popularity and not
- 24:33Speaker 1: necessarily the fight, his experience or his the fact that
- 24:36Speaker 1: the fighter is that great. Is there any reason for that?
- 24:39Speaker 1: Is that true?
- 24:40Speaker 4: It's definitely not true. That's definitely not true. Plus, my
- 24:44Speaker 4: job is to put on the fights that people want
- 24:46Speaker 4: to see. Like your buddy that you were talking to
- 24:49Speaker 4: that can't wait and he's in the second or third
- 24:51Speaker 4: row or whatever. This fight this weekend. There's a ton
- 24:54Speaker 4: of bad blood between these guys, a lot of ship
- 24:57Speaker 4: talking going back and forth, and uh, you know, this
- 25:01Speaker 4: is a fight that people want to say, that's my job.
- 25:03Speaker 1: What's relationship with Ronda Rousey lover? She has some horse
- 25:08Speaker 1: words for the UFC at one time. Ye, what's your
- 25:10Speaker 1: thoughts on her words? What she said?
- 25:12Speaker 3: Not paying again?
- 25:13Speaker 4: I think that everybody is entitled to their opinion, including Ronda.
- 25:18Speaker 4: Ronda is one of the greatest athletes that I've ever
- 25:22Speaker 4: worked with in my entire career, and and her rise
- 25:26Speaker 4: and run was was one of the most h Yeah,
- 25:31Speaker 4: the most fun I've had in my career.
- 25:33Speaker 1: What's the craziest thing a fighter has asked you for?
- 25:36Speaker 1: Besides money? Is there anything on decided a fighter said
- 25:39Speaker 1: this is weird or this is strange.
- 25:42Speaker 3: No, nobody's ever asked me for co he heard that
- 25:44Speaker 3: one should?
- 25:47Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean a lot of it. Well
- 25:53Speaker 4: to go to go with Charlotmagne here, I got a
- 25:55Speaker 4: fighter right now, who's uh?
- 25:57Speaker 3: Who's who's uh? A wife got got grabbed by ice?
- 26:04Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So did you reach out the Trump and
- 26:09Speaker 1: did you reach out?
- 26:10Speaker 3: Well? Admitted.
- 26:11Speaker 4: He also admitted that it was their fault that that
- 26:14Speaker 4: this happened to you know, it wasn't you know, Ice
- 26:17Speaker 4: just popped up and grabbed his wife. They they they
- 26:21Speaker 4: made a lot of mistakes leading up to that happening.
- 26:26Speaker 3: And asked me to help.
- 26:27Speaker 4: With that, did you I don't think, I don't. I
- 26:29Speaker 4: don't know what I can do to help with that. Well,
- 26:34Speaker 4: there's policies. There are policies if you are not an
- 26:38Speaker 4: American citizen, and especially if you've done something illegal, you're
- 26:42Speaker 4: you're you're probably gonna be yeah, yeah, yeah, so you're probably.
- 26:46Speaker 3: Going to be in trouble.
- 26:47Speaker 4: They admitted they did a lot of things wrong leading
- 26:50Speaker 4: up to you know that this happening. But I mean,
- 26:54Speaker 4: that's right up there with.
- 26:55Speaker 1: Did you reach it at least asked him like, hey, bro,
- 26:58Speaker 1: I got a fighter. Did you each the not bro,
- 27:00Speaker 1: that's bro.
- 27:02Speaker 5: They don't call each other bro. Ask him what you called.
- 27:05Speaker 3: You, mister president?
- 27:08Speaker 1: Did you reach out to mister president and even ask
- 27:10Speaker 1: him about it? Or you said you're gonna fall back
- 27:12Speaker 1: on that one.
- 27:13Speaker 4: Well, he's not the one that you would ask. There
- 27:15Speaker 4: are other people in the cabinet think that that could
- 27:19Speaker 4: help with that.
- 27:19Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's the one that can fix it.
- 27:24Speaker 4: Well, when you say he, it's his administration too, I
- 27:26Speaker 4: mean that the people that are around him.
- 27:29Speaker 5: How bad can her husband fight?
- 27:34Speaker 3: How bad?
- 27:34Speaker 5: I mean like, how great can Well he's tired.
- 27:37Speaker 3: Now, he's retired, but he's a great kid. He's a
- 27:41Speaker 3: great kay. I like him as well.
- 27:43Speaker 6: If if let's just say, hypothetically, Kamala Harris was president,
- 27:46Speaker 6: right or even Barack Obama and they wanted a UFC
- 27:50Speaker 6: card on the White House lawn, would your audience embrace
- 27:53Speaker 6: it the same way?
- 27:53Speaker 4: Yeah, here's my thing. It's like that whole Uh. You know,
- 27:58Speaker 4: Biden is not my president. Trump is not my president.
- 28:01Speaker 4: I got some bad news for you. If you are an American,
- 28:04Speaker 4: that is your president. And that's how I am. Whoever
- 28:07Speaker 4: the President of the United States is. I am an
- 28:09Speaker 4: American citizen and that is my president. And you know, yeah,
- 28:14Speaker 4: I would definitely if especially and it's the two hundred
- 28:18Speaker 4: and fiftieth anniversary of America and the President of the
- 28:20Speaker 4: United States calls me and asks me to do anything,
- 28:23Speaker 4: let alone an event at the Whites And.
- 28:27Speaker 6: So what if what if Kamala wasn't president just wanted
- 28:29Speaker 6: to do it, just wanted to have it an event,
- 28:33Speaker 6: a UFC event somewhere.
- 28:35Speaker 2: Would you still do it?
- 28:37Speaker 4: Well, depend on it. I mean it depends on a
- 28:39Speaker 4: lot of things. You know, this this event on the
- 28:43Speaker 4: White House lawn. I'm paying for everything, you know. And
- 28:46Speaker 4: again it's aligned with America's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,
- 28:51Speaker 4: So I don't know it would depend but yeah. So
- 28:55Speaker 4: I was at the inauguration and my seats were right
- 28:59Speaker 4: behind all the express and while it was playing out live,
- 29:04Speaker 4: people were posting look at Dana mad Dog and Obama
- 29:07Speaker 4: and and and all this you know, crazy shit that
- 29:10Speaker 4: people say on the internet, when in reality, Obama was
- 29:14Speaker 4: the only one that turned around to me shook my
- 29:18Speaker 4: hand and said congratulations and all your success. I'm really
- 29:21Speaker 4: happy for you. And I said thank you, mister president. Yeah,
- 29:25Speaker 4: nobody else that was our interaction. You know, there's nothing negative, nothing,
- 29:31Speaker 4: you know, none of that ship.
- 29:33Speaker 1: No other president spoke to you at all, didn't even
- 29:34Speaker 1: look at you, look at your way.
- 29:36Speaker 4: Well I mean they looked and whatever, but no, the
- 29:38Speaker 4: only one that that acknowledged yeah, was President Obama.
- 29:41Speaker 6: So when you when you say you only want to
- 29:43Speaker 6: do business, with people you're aligned with. For you're talking
- 29:44Speaker 6: about values policy.
- 29:46Speaker 3: I'm talking about loyalty. I'm talking about sponsorship. I had.
- 29:49Speaker 4: I had some fucking crazy shit go on with some
- 29:52Speaker 4: sponsors during COVID and uh and when I was supporting
- 29:59Speaker 4: Trump uh uh, you know, for election. And my thing is,
- 30:03Speaker 4: I get it you're spending, but don't don't don't ever
- 30:05Speaker 4: fucking tell me personally who to vote for and who
- 30:07Speaker 4: not to vote for. As an American, that's your right
- 30:10Speaker 4: to vote for whoever you want to vote for. And
- 30:12Speaker 4: I'm not going to be uh you know, uh, you know,
- 30:16Speaker 4: put in a position where I got some sponsor calling
- 30:18Speaker 4: me telling me who I can and can't vote for
- 30:21Speaker 4: and who I can and can't support.
- 30:22Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, it happened.
- 30:24Speaker 6: Yeah, But that's what I mean when I say political
- 30:27Speaker 6: alignment impacting your business. But you don't care. No, you
- 30:31Speaker 6: said you don't give us it. If all your sponsors.
- 30:34Speaker 4: Pulled up, that sponsors gone, Oh yeah, all they don't
- 30:38Speaker 4: have enough money to do business with me, gone.
- 30:41Speaker 6: But what if all of them pulled up? Would you
- 30:43Speaker 6: then tell your friend that you got to change some things?
- 30:45Speaker 3: Well?
- 30:47Speaker 4: You if if you look at how you are in
- 30:51Speaker 4: the way that you think and imagine somebody coming in
- 30:54Speaker 4: because they sponsor your show and start telling you who
- 30:59Speaker 4: to be and how to acted, who to vote for
- 31:01Speaker 4: and who to No, no, I can't do what happened
- 31:03Speaker 4: exactly exactly not the question I said it, But but
- 31:06Speaker 4: what if it impacts your business and what if it
- 31:08Speaker 4: impacts you? Was There's not much to think about. You
- 31:15Speaker 4: either want to be that person or you're not that person.
- 31:18Speaker 4: I don't think you're that person, but you know, somebody
- 31:22Speaker 4: starts there are there are lots of sponsors out there.
- 31:26Speaker 4: Right when you get somebody that comes in and starts
- 31:29Speaker 4: trying to do that to you, ye.
- 31:32Speaker 3: Got to go.
- 31:33Speaker 7: Was there a conversation with your sponsors or anybody on
- 31:35Speaker 7: the business side when that video went viral view and
- 31:37Speaker 7: your wife and the club the slapping slapping her slapping
- 31:41Speaker 7: you when they reached out to you, What did they like?
- 31:43Speaker 7: How did that conversation?
- 31:45Speaker 4: I didn't. We didn't have any sponsor problems. Uh during
- 31:50Speaker 4: that I think that that that you know, my wife
- 31:56Speaker 4: and I jumped on that immediately, and and again that
- 32:00Speaker 4: was more of a we had to deal with our
- 32:03Speaker 4: kids with that one. When you embarrass your children on
- 32:07Speaker 4: a global level. You know, that's one of the worst
- 32:12Speaker 4: things that can ever happen to He might din't have
- 32:16Speaker 4: any sponsorship problems with that.
- 32:18Speaker 7: I was at TMZ at the time when that video
- 32:20Speaker 7: went up, and like the whole debacle and like, you
- 32:22Speaker 7: know whatever. And one thing I will say is your
- 32:24Speaker 7: relationships have afforded you a lot of like empathy and grace,
- 32:29Speaker 7: Like the way that they handled that situation with you
- 32:31Speaker 7: and allowing you to speak out for yourself, like as
- 32:33Speaker 7: it was published. I had never seen that in my
- 32:35Speaker 7: time being in the newsroom. Oh that was like a
- 32:39Speaker 7: that was my first time ever realizing like relationships can
- 32:42Speaker 7: change a narrative one hundred percent. And they reported it honestly,
- 32:45Speaker 7: but they allowed you to at the same time that
- 32:48Speaker 7: the video is going up, you're speaking for yourself and apologizing.
- 32:52Speaker 7: And I was just like wow. I always told myself,
- 32:56Speaker 7: I ever got a chance to meet you, I would
- 32:57Speaker 7: really want to talk to you about that, because I
- 32:59Speaker 7: never seen that before.
- 33:02Speaker 3: Interesting.
- 33:02Speaker 4: Yeah, I and and we were apologizing to our children,
- 33:08Speaker 4: my wife and I when that happened. I think that
- 33:11Speaker 4: a lot of the people that I've been in business
- 33:13Speaker 4: with and that I'm friends with no know me really well,
- 33:18Speaker 4: And yeah, it's just one of those you know, it
- 33:27Speaker 4: was bad and we jumped right on it and and
- 33:33Speaker 4: and and and dealt with it.
- 33:35Speaker 3: And I don't think that.
- 33:37Speaker 4: When I got back from Mexico, it was like it
- 33:39Speaker 4: was sixty four days of just you know, people getting hammered. Yeah,
- 33:43Speaker 4: I mean, and I had to. I live in Vegas,
- 33:47Speaker 4: so I was waking up at like three in the
- 33:49Speaker 4: morning every morning because the East Coast is cracking off
- 33:53Speaker 4: at six o'clock with all the you know, talk shows
- 33:55Speaker 4: and sports shows, and you know, I had I had
- 33:58Speaker 4: to make the rounds and and and and do all
- 34:01Speaker 4: the interviews. And you know, I say this all the time.
- 34:06Speaker 4: You find out who's who and what's what when the
- 34:09Speaker 4: ship hits the fan. And I learned a lot about
- 34:14Speaker 4: a lot of people during that time, and mostly a
- 34:16Speaker 4: positive way, not negative.
- 34:18Speaker 2: If a UFC fighter was caught on camera.
- 34:20Speaker 4: It's happened, that's have been treated. You know what's funny
- 34:26Speaker 4: is that it's not funny. But I used to say
- 34:29Speaker 4: that you don't recover from those those are those are
- 34:32Speaker 4: those are ones you don't recover from.
- 34:34Speaker 3: I did.
- 34:35Speaker 6: Do you think being the boss protected you from consequences
- 34:37Speaker 6: that employees of athlete.
- 34:39Speaker 3: Definitely not. No, definitely data come on, definitely not.
- 34:42Speaker 7: You've made the choice publicly not to excuse yourself from
- 34:45Speaker 7: the brand.
- 34:46Speaker 3: You chose publicly to not what.
- 34:48Speaker 7: To excuse yourself or give yourself.
- 34:50Speaker 4: Well, listen that there's a board of directors, there's you
- 34:54Speaker 4: know that there's other people that that are involved that
- 34:57Speaker 4: that uh could have pushed for that. But yeah, I
- 35:03Speaker 4: think that and I obviously they think too. It would
- 35:06Speaker 4: have it would have hurt the company more if I
- 35:08Speaker 4: if I did step away and.
- 35:10Speaker 6: You've disciplined fighters for public behavior that was unbecoming to
- 35:13Speaker 6: the company before.
- 35:14Speaker 4: Right, Well, I mean I'm I'm probably the most lenient, uh,
- 35:17Speaker 4: you know, the most lenient guy in sports when it
- 35:20Speaker 4: comes to dealing with uh, you know, whether it's free
- 35:25Speaker 4: speech or bad things that happened. And you know, I'm
- 35:30Speaker 4: gonna fight business, not like I run Microsoft, you know
- 35:33Speaker 4: what I mean?
- 35:34Speaker 6: So, so what standard did you hold yourself to.
- 35:37Speaker 2: In that moment?
- 35:38Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, obviously that's not that's not what uh it was. Yeah,
- 35:47Speaker 4: I mean it's as bad as I could get. I mean,
- 35:49Speaker 4: I I I hold myself to I would never in
- 35:54Speaker 4: a million years think that that was going to happen.
- 35:57Speaker 4: And I say this all the time, nobody knows you
- 35:59Speaker 4: better than you kids do. And you know, your kids,
- 36:03Speaker 4: whoever you really are, your kids see it. They hearing
- 36:09Speaker 4: everything that that goes on at home. And uh, you know,
- 36:13Speaker 4: how did he react to that incident? Because my oldest
- 36:16Speaker 4: son didn't talk to us for like four days. We
- 36:17Speaker 4: had to you know, And.
- 36:19Speaker 7: Uh was he at the time? How old was he
- 36:22Speaker 7: your oldest son at the time?
- 36:23Speaker 4: He was he was in college, so you know he was,
- 36:27Speaker 4: uh nineteen probably, yeah, nineteen twenty. And uh, you know,
- 36:32Speaker 4: we we The first thing that that her and I
- 36:35Speaker 4: did was handle the situation with the kids. And then
- 36:40Speaker 4: obviously I had to handle the business side of the
- 36:43Speaker 4: of the whole thing. But yeah, we we we handled
- 36:46Speaker 4: the kids first.
- 36:48Speaker 1: How did power slaps get started?
- 36:50Speaker 2: That's a terrible but inflicted right now.
- 36:56Speaker 5: It was great though, it was probably I think it
- 36:58Speaker 5: was great.
- 36:58Speaker 2: I think it was great.
- 36:59Speaker 7: Power is in the ring. I'm like, yo, the fuck
- 37:04Speaker 7: just like not y'all just be out here. Power.
- 37:08Speaker 1: I think that was good.
- 37:12Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you so.
- 37:16Speaker 4: In seventeen eighteen, I was on Instagram. I saw these
- 37:20Speaker 4: guys slapping and uh. It was coming out of Russia
- 37:25Speaker 4: and Poland, and I was like, holy shit, this is crazy.
- 37:28Speaker 4: But what fascinated me is that I would stay till
- 37:32Speaker 4: the end to see who won. And I started to
- 37:34Speaker 4: get into it, and and uh I called my old
- 37:37Speaker 4: partners to for Tita Brothers, and I said, have you
- 37:39Speaker 4: seen this slap and stuff? I'm into it. I think
- 37:43Speaker 4: I think I could do this and and and I
- 37:45Speaker 4: think this could be big. And literally I said how
- 37:48Speaker 4: much money you need? I said, I need a million
- 37:50Speaker 4: bucks from from both of you. So all three of
- 37:53Speaker 4: us put in a million dollars and here we are.
- 37:56Speaker 1: You know, we kind of started that. This is about
- 37:59Speaker 1: thirty i'll say twenty five years ago. We see this
- 38:02Speaker 1: thing called slapfest and people would slap each other for tickets, damn.
- 38:07Speaker 1: And we did it for like a good year tickets
- 38:09Speaker 1: to where a concert like so you'd stand there and
- 38:12Speaker 1: it would There was no referees. It was just us
- 38:15Speaker 1: doing it and it was huge. And then we got
- 38:17Speaker 1: a letter from I guess what it would FCC, one
- 38:20Speaker 1: of the sponsors. You can't have like this is like
- 38:24Speaker 1: battling fighting, no refs, but it was. It was huge.
- 38:26Speaker 1: So when I seen that, I was like, wow, damn,
- 38:29Speaker 1: people get hurt with that though.
- 38:30Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, people get knocked out, knocked that fas
- 38:32Speaker 4: Uh it does a billion views a month. Geez, power
- 38:37Speaker 4: slap does a billion views a month and it is
- 38:39Speaker 4: a sponsorship machine. Kills it. We're doing uh, we're doing
- 38:45Speaker 4: our first fight in Serbia this summer. We'll be doing
- 38:48Speaker 4: power slopes.
- 38:48Speaker 1: So how does that work? Slap each other? Somebody gets
- 38:50Speaker 1: knocked out?
- 38:52Speaker 4: Well, you go back and forth. It's three rounds. Title
- 38:55Speaker 4: fights are five rounds, and uh, there's judges. Just like
- 38:59Speaker 4: in the fights, they have a standing eight count if
- 39:02Speaker 4: you if you get dropped, and and and therough determines
- 39:05Speaker 4: whether you can. It's regulated just like boxing in the
- 39:08Speaker 4: UFC by the Athletic Commissions.
- 39:10Speaker 3: Damn, I know.
- 39:12Speaker 6: I just got a couple of questions cause I don't want,
- 39:13Speaker 6: I do want to go back to this lab daing.
- 39:15Speaker 6: What responsibility do you feel knowing that you're a person
- 39:19Speaker 6: who a lot of young men idolized as a leader,
- 39:22Speaker 6: and for the young men that saw that footage, what
- 39:24Speaker 6: responsibility do you feel?
- 39:25Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot.
- 39:26Speaker 4: No, it's bad and and and uh, you know, not
- 39:31Speaker 4: my finest moment, and uh I, I don't want to
- 39:40Speaker 4: blame anything other than the fact that it happened. I
- 39:44Speaker 4: did it, and you know, now from probably the worst
- 39:50Speaker 4: thing that that can happen is somebody, oh, this guy's
- 39:54Speaker 4: a wife beater or you know. But that's that's that's
- 39:57Speaker 4: the the kind of things that I have to hear,
- 40:00Speaker 4: you know, for the rest of my life and my
- 40:01Speaker 4: kids have to hear that. So yes, it's it's it's
- 40:05Speaker 4: a big deal to me. And uh I take it
- 40:09Speaker 4: very serious that that video exists and that young men
- 40:12Speaker 4: see that happening.
- 40:13Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of.
- 40:14Speaker 6: Men only truly face accountability when they're a financial consequences
- 40:17Speaker 6: like men in your position rather so, so since there
- 40:19Speaker 6: really weren't any major financial consequences for you, do you
- 40:22Speaker 6: feel like you truly experienced Again, I don't.
- 40:25Speaker 4: I don't know if if if financial consequences are I mean,
- 40:29Speaker 4: how does that How does that affect me in any way,
- 40:32Speaker 4: shape or form financially? If you know how it affects
- 40:36Speaker 4: me is that I if you.
- 40:37Speaker 2: Lose sponsorships mean business.
- 40:40Speaker 4: I don't care about that kind of ship that I
- 40:42Speaker 4: don't care about that stuff that literally means nothing. To me,
- 40:48Speaker 4: it's not even that I I I've been broke, I've
- 40:51Speaker 4: had money, I've done it all. Life is there's so
- 40:54Speaker 4: much more to life than just that, oh, you know,
- 40:58Speaker 4: the money or the finances, the sponsors of this, or that,
- 41:02Speaker 4: the fact that you know, I embarrassed my kids and
- 41:08Speaker 4: that that hangs on my name and on my head forever.
- 41:14Speaker 4: It's just, you know, if you are a young a
- 41:19Speaker 4: young man, you don't ever want to do that to you, don't.
- 41:23Speaker 4: You just don't want to do that to yourself. And
- 41:25Speaker 4: you get in these positions where I would tell you
- 41:28Speaker 4: before that happened, I would have told you there's never
- 41:32Speaker 4: that would never happen to me, and there will never
- 41:35Speaker 4: be a scenario that could ever play out where I
- 41:38Speaker 4: would be a part of that. It would just never happen.
- 41:41Speaker 4: And it did, you know, and and and you know
- 41:45Speaker 4: you have to. I mean, if that's who you are
- 41:48Speaker 4: and that's what you do, and that's what you've done
- 41:50Speaker 4: and that's normal to you, then you don't feel the
- 41:56Speaker 4: way that I feel about it. I'm trying to explain
- 41:59Speaker 4: this to you and the best way possible.
- 42:01Speaker 3: You know, So.
- 42:05Speaker 4: As a young man or an older man, if you
- 42:09Speaker 4: start to feel yourself in a position where something like
- 42:13Speaker 4: that starts to escalate, get the hell out of there.
- 42:17Speaker 4: Literally run run, get out of there, and and take
- 42:21Speaker 4: yourself out of that situation immediately.
- 42:24Speaker 1: I wanted to ask, you know, another thing that's been
- 42:26Speaker 1: in the news when it came to Dana White is
- 42:28Speaker 1: how much you in the casino and how much a
- 42:29Speaker 1: gambling people go into your gambling. Is that a problem
- 42:32Speaker 1: for you gambling? Do you still go to the casino heavy?
- 42:35Speaker 1: Because I do?
- 42:36Speaker 4: I do, I do. Uh yeah, I love to gamble.
- 42:39Speaker 4: I gamble multiple nights a week in Vegas, and uh yeah,
- 42:44Speaker 4: I love it.
- 42:45Speaker 5: What's your game?
- 42:46Speaker 4: It's baccarat. Now, that was a blackjack guy for a
- 42:49Speaker 4: long time. I don't sports bet I hate sports betting,
- 42:54Speaker 4: but I love. Baccara is my thing now. So Baccara
- 42:57Speaker 4: is a very Chinese game. So every night at Caesar's Palace,
- 43:02Speaker 4: at seven o'clock, you go to the high limit room
- 43:05Speaker 4: and all the Chinese come in and start playing. They
- 43:07Speaker 4: played at ten o'clock in the morning. So when I
- 43:09Speaker 4: first started to learn, I always thought bakaat was boring
- 43:11Speaker 4: and stupid. I submerged myself with the Chinese. They took
- 43:16Speaker 4: me in and let me play with them, and I
- 43:18Speaker 4: learned more from the women actually, because the women have
- 43:21Speaker 4: more patience than the men do, and to watch them
- 43:24Speaker 4: play was fascinating. And now I'm a back guy.
- 43:26Speaker 1: Is it true that they said that you sometimes pay
- 43:28Speaker 1: your friends to come gamble with you because you gamble
- 43:30Speaker 1: all the time by itself?
- 43:31Speaker 3: Is that true? No, my friends are with me twenty
- 43:34Speaker 3: four to seven.
- 43:37Speaker 8: So look, that's crazy because that's how I learned how
- 43:39Speaker 8: to play back to from a bunch of the Chinese women,
- 43:43Speaker 8: because the guys they get upset and me moved from
- 43:45Speaker 8: table to table there, Like you said, they're very patient,
- 43:47Speaker 8: the women are more patient, Like that is my game
- 43:51Speaker 8: right there.
- 43:51Speaker 3: So you do you play, dude?
- 43:52Speaker 5: I play background. I don't know, like high limit, but
- 43:55Speaker 5: you know.
- 43:55Speaker 1: What's the most you ever won?
- 44:00Speaker 4: Well, you have to understand that I live in Vegas,
- 44:04Speaker 4: so I play every night. You know, some people come
- 44:06Speaker 4: in like like where do you play? You play in
- 44:09Speaker 4: like the Indian Reservation.
- 44:11Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm from Baltimore, so I play like the Horseshoe
- 44:13Speaker 8: or like if I'm traveling anywhere, like I played backer
- 44:16Speaker 8: rocking in Vegas as well. Like but I'm a I'm
- 44:18Speaker 8: a traveling stand up comedian.
- 44:20Speaker 1: So I play wherever I go.
- 44:21Speaker 4: Okay, so you know you'll have a board, right, and uh,
- 44:26Speaker 4: instead of just sitting there for you know, eight hours,
- 44:30Speaker 4: I'll come in and so my this is my game.
- 44:33Speaker 4: Let me bet as much as I can possibly bet, right,
- 44:39Speaker 4: and I'll clip you for two hands and I'll go home. Right,
- 44:44Speaker 4: I play four hundred thousand a hen, they just gave
- 44:47Speaker 4: me a million. Come on, they just gave me a
- 44:49Speaker 4: million bucks.
- 44:50Speaker 1: I though a casino said you were you owe them money?
- 44:53Speaker 1: Still is that true?
- 44:53Speaker 3: Or though?
- 44:55Speaker 4: Don't believe any of the ship that you hear. First
- 44:58Speaker 4: of all, no casino ever came out and said that
- 45:00Speaker 4: I'm in debt and I owe them money?
- 45:02Speaker 7: Ever ever ever evered it like a deep dove.
- 45:06Speaker 3: That's some bullshit thing that came out.
- 45:08Speaker 4: They do the same thing to Bruno, Bruno Mars, you
- 45:11Speaker 4: know twenty five million?
- 45:14Speaker 2: Did you owe twenty million?
- 45:16Speaker 3: Fifty fifty fifty million?
- 45:19Speaker 7: But had the casino come out and said that you
- 45:21Speaker 7: don't owe them that?
- 45:22Speaker 3: It's Red Rock, right of course? Yeah, Red Rock. Those
- 45:24Speaker 3: are my partners.
- 45:26Speaker 4: Those are the guys I grew up with the on
- 45:28Speaker 4: the UFC with and yeah, So anyway, the answer to
- 45:33Speaker 4: your story is I'll come in and Clippy for two
- 45:35Speaker 4: hands and then I leave him at home, right, And
- 45:39Speaker 4: that's anywhere from eight hundred to a million, and then
- 45:42Speaker 4: I'll come back and play the same board and play
- 45:44Speaker 4: the whole board out, you know, over a month.
- 45:46Speaker 8: The most I've ever won Dana is thirteen thousand dollars.
- 45:50Speaker 4: Incredible, whatever, that's incredible.
- 45:54Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 45:55Speaker 3: Playing back, yeah, playing.
- 45:56Speaker 5: Backrock Boy twenty.
- 45:58Speaker 8: I came in with twenty five hundred, got down, came up,
- 46:01Speaker 8: you know, because I bet like the side do the
- 46:03Speaker 8: side bets too. I don't just do player or a banker.
- 46:05Speaker 8: I do the side bets. Caught a dragon, you know
- 46:08Speaker 8: what I mean? And I got out. But thirteen thousand
- 46:11Speaker 8: is the most. You're talking about, eight hundred thousand millions,
- 46:13Speaker 8: And shit, I ain't there yet.
- 46:16Speaker 5: Ain't there yet.
- 46:17Speaker 6: And I will say to be fair, an anonymous source
- 46:19Speaker 6: did tell Casino dot or exactly.
- 46:22Speaker 7: Probably exactly that's right, yeah, yeah, real quick.
- 46:25Speaker 3: An anonymous source.
- 46:27Speaker 4: First of all, when I play, I play in private
- 46:30Speaker 4: rooms at the Blajio, at Caesar's and at the Venetian.
- 46:36Speaker 4: Those are the only three that will really take my action,
- 46:39Speaker 4: and uh, you know, we're playing private rooms.
- 46:42Speaker 3: And the same thing with Bruno Mars Bruno.
- 46:45Speaker 2: Bruno just got out of dead though.
- 46:47Speaker 6: He said that, Yeah, he literally just got he that
- 46:51Speaker 6: was that was true, if I'm not mistaken, right, he
- 46:53Speaker 6: just got out of debt.
- 46:53Speaker 1: I think last week he was performing his dead but
- 46:55Speaker 1: he could have been joking. He said he just got
- 46:56Speaker 1: out of dead though. Okay, He'm singing this song and said.
- 46:58Speaker 4: He he's totally joking. He's totally joking. And I see
- 47:03Speaker 4: him all the time in Vegas. And so sometimes when
- 47:07Speaker 4: I'm playing at Blago, I'll be in the room here
- 47:10Speaker 4: and Bruno's in the room over here, and we're friends.
- 47:13Speaker 4: Nobody goes in fucking his room while he's playing. I
- 47:15Speaker 4: don't go in his room and he's playing, you know
- 47:17Speaker 4: what I mean. So any of that stuff, but any
- 47:23Speaker 4: of that stuff you hear coming out of Vegas as bullshit,
- 47:26Speaker 4: just like Vegas is dying right now and and and
- 47:29Speaker 4: all the casinos are empty and ghost towns and all
- 47:31Speaker 4: that bullshit, all bullshit.
- 47:34Speaker 8: Which fighters excite you today? Tap five give mean Tap.
- 47:38Speaker 4: Five top by Pereira who's fighting on the White House
- 47:41Speaker 4: Iliotoporia who's fighting in the White House and this weekend
- 47:45Speaker 4: Hamza chamaiav and and Strickling. That's why everybody's so fired
- 47:49Speaker 4: up about this. Tons of bad blood between these guys. Uh,
- 47:53Speaker 4: Sugar Shan O'Malley as a fun fighter to watch.
- 47:58Speaker 8: Yeah, I wish favorite era of UFC. Is it the
- 48:02Speaker 8: Connor era?
- 48:03Speaker 3: Like what would have to Yeah? Great, great, great question.
- 48:06Speaker 3: It has to be the Connor area.
- 48:07Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the Mayweather McGregor world tour that we
- 48:11Speaker 4: went on was so much fun and and uh, you know,
- 48:16Speaker 4: both of those guys were hilarious and and and every
- 48:19Speaker 4: stop we did was different. It was the same guys,
- 48:23Speaker 4: but everyone was different and it was it was a
- 48:26Speaker 4: really special time in my career.
- 48:29Speaker 3: Yeah, it's awesome.
- 48:30Speaker 1: Well, the fight goes down this weekend.
- 48:33Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 48:33Speaker 6: And I just want to say, Danny, it was a
- 48:34Speaker 6: great conversation. I do believe though, that powerful men like
- 48:38Speaker 6: yourself don't really see what's going on in this country,
- 48:41Speaker 6: especially with your own fan base of USC.
- 48:44Speaker 2: And I'm realizing there's a bubble.
- 48:46Speaker 6: That like, you know, you all existing, and I want
- 48:49Speaker 6: you to come out of that bubble sometimes and see
- 48:51Speaker 6: the pain that you're your own people are going through.
- 48:54Speaker 3: That's why.
- 48:55Speaker 6: That's why when you look at when I look at
- 48:56Speaker 6: all of the things that have happened to tack the tariff,
- 48:58Speaker 6: inflation and the snap and if it's being cut in
- 49:00Speaker 6: Affordable Care Act not being extended, the tax inequality exists
- 49:04Speaker 6: in this country. You think about all the federal workers
- 49:05Speaker 6: that you know got fired because the dogs. That's why
- 49:08Speaker 6: Trump got booed in Miami when y'all walked out.
- 49:11Speaker 3: He didn't get booted in Miami.
- 49:12Speaker 2: He did.
- 49:14Speaker 3: He did not get.
- 49:14Speaker 7: Booted in It happened on your other AI too, was
- 49:18Speaker 7: what happened.
- 49:20Speaker 3: He did not get booed in Miami. Yeh yeah, the
- 49:24Speaker 3: place erupted in Miami.
- 49:25Speaker 2: Now video of him getting booed maybe it.
- 49:27Speaker 3: Was a I don't know, Yeah, he definitely didn't get booded.
- 49:30Speaker 6: Next time you walk out and you walk out on
- 49:31Speaker 6: your right side, if you hear any boobs, just know
- 49:34Speaker 6: the reason he's getting booed is because of what's happening
- 49:37Speaker 6: in this country. And you're his friend, so I just
- 49:40Speaker 6: want you to be aware that. So you could maybe
- 49:41Speaker 6: tell him like, hey man, maybe you need to listen
- 49:43Speaker 6: to your constituent.
- 49:44Speaker 4: If I had, you know, my fan base, I'm pretty
- 49:48Speaker 4: dialed in with my fan base. When you said that
- 49:50Speaker 4: I live in my bubble, I live in my UFC bubble.
- 49:53Speaker 4: But nobody, no fans and people that I interact with
- 49:58Speaker 4: all the time, has ever come up to me and said,
- 50:00Speaker 4: I'm hurting man that you know the president isn't isn't
- 50:03Speaker 4: doing this, or isn't doing that. It's never happening.
- 50:07Speaker 3: Never happened.
- 50:08Speaker 4: We had this conversation. Absolutely, I would and and I'll
- 50:11Speaker 4: tell you this. If it does happen, I'll get with Linay,
- 50:14Speaker 4: We'll reach out and I'll tell you this is what happened.
- 50:16Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 50:17Speaker 1: You know last week before we get up, you guys
- 50:19Speaker 1: signed Edgar Baloga now Zuofer Boxing, right uffer boxing. Explain
- 50:22Speaker 1: to people zepher boxing is and why are you jump
- 50:24Speaker 1: into the boxing?
- 50:25Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 50:25Speaker 4: So, uh, you know, I've been talking about boxing for
- 50:28Speaker 4: a long time. It's where I came from. I wouldn't
- 50:30Speaker 4: be here today if it wasn't for boxing. And uh,
- 50:33Speaker 4: timing is everything in life, and and and it all
- 50:36Speaker 4: sort of came together last year and I decided to
- 50:39Speaker 4: pull the trigger. We got involved in basically like like
- 50:43Speaker 4: we were saying earlier. My job is to put on
- 50:46Speaker 4: the fights that people want to see, and I feel
- 50:48Speaker 4: like boxing hasn't had middle class in a very long time.
- 50:52Speaker 4: You know, you hear about the handful of guys that
- 50:54Speaker 4: make all the money, and then there's tons of guys
- 50:56Speaker 4: to starve. So what I want to do is try
- 50:59Speaker 4: to build it again from the ground up, create new
- 51:03Speaker 4: up and coming young stars, give everybody the opportunity to fight,
- 51:06Speaker 4: but the best fight the best. The one thing that's
- 51:09Speaker 4: happened in boxing has become everybody is undefeated because nobody
- 51:13Speaker 4: fights anybody until they, you know, get to a world title.
- 51:16Speaker 4: We're gonna you know, we're putting on Bull Chuck versus
- 51:21Speaker 4: the Mosley Jr. Fight This this Sunday and on Paramount Plus.
- 51:25Speaker 2: That's dope. You know who won't have a middle class America? Okay,
- 51:31Speaker 2: so you need to start.
- 51:36Speaker 1: That very clear a right, Well, thank you for joining
- 51:39Speaker 1: us this weekend. You can check out the fight in
- 51:41Speaker 1: Newark this weekend, is a fight in Vegas this weekend.
- 51:43Speaker 1: Appreciate you for joining us, Thanks.
- 51:44Speaker 3: For having me.
- 51:45Speaker 4: Congrats on all your success guys.
- 51:48Speaker 3: I would love to come back. If you'll have me,
- 51:50Speaker 3: I'll come back.
- 51:51Speaker 1: It's Dana White. It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning, every day.
- 51:55Speaker 1: A week ago.
- 51:57Speaker 3: Breakfast Club