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UFO Sightings With Josh Leonard | The Christian Reeve Podcast #238 · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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  Hello and welcome back to the Christian Reef Podcast.
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  This is the final instalment in our Aliens and UFOs series that
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  I've been doing with Mr. Josh Leonard.
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  And this particular show is all about alien sightings.
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  and means the world to me. So thank you so much for
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  continuing to listen. Hope you enjoy this show.
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  Now without further ado, welcoming the wonderful Josh
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  Leonard of the Pursuit of Infinity podcast.
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  How you doing, Josh? Good man.
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  Thank you. Endless gratitude to you
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  Christian, for always hosting these amazing conversations that
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  you include me in. I'm very appreciative.
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  Oh, the honour's mine, my friend.
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  Like, I'm, I'm happy that you keep wanting to come back, to be
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  honest. Like, you know, when I look back
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  at the last 3 1/2 years of of shows and and and return guests
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  and stuff, there's people that you click with.
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  There's people that you have your chemistry and stuff and we
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  definitely got that going on and and I know, I know you're always
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  like very busy with your show as well and guys make sure you go
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  and listen to the Pursuit of Infinity podcast.
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  I know I'm plugging it because he's here but he's my friend and
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  I love what he does. I think the show is really well
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  structured and put together it's got much better Brandon than
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  mine but he's he's smashing it and you give it a chance because
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  I think you'll enjoy it too. And that's one of the reasons as
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  well why I think this works because like we're on similar
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  wavelengths, like you take it in a in a different direction, but
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  there's like that similar thinking and that's what makes
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  it work. I think ultimately this show was
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  originally going to be part of the aliens and UFOs thing.
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  I think we originally were just going to do 1 show and then it
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  became much bigger than that. So I split it into two and then
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  I was looking into this topic and it's like I said in the
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  first two instalments, tip of the iceberg.
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  And even with this it's I I know you're probably going to get
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  sick of hearing me say that, but honestly the further you go,
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  it's like a rabbit hole. It's like if you sit and listen
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  and and talk about conspiracy theories, you know, once you're
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  caught in that, I mean it's never ending.
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  It's just the hole keeps going and going and going and going.
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  But at that, in the same vein, like, it's still fascinating and
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  I think I've learnt a lot through doing this research
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  stuff that I never had any idea about right.
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  And specifically, specifically with UFOs and UFO sightings.
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  Have you ever heard of the mystery of the Madonna and the
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  UFO painting, Josh? I have, yes, Right.
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  So for people who don't know about this, it's a 15th century
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  painting that caused a bit of a stir because, and I believe
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  there's a lot of painting since then over the years that how can
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  I put this? I'm going to swear it's got some
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  weird shit in the background. And like, you know, it's kind of
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  a pastime of mine to to find, like, I love art anyway, but I
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  love finding like old art that has like really questionable
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  stuff in it, or just just odd stuff that seems out of place,
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  You know, sometimes people use it for memes and stuff and it's
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  quite hilarious. Like people back in the day, I
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  think just like now, had a sense of humour and like to muck
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  around stuff, right? But equally people also, you
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  know, art was essentially the old fashioned version of modern
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  photography in the sense that that's how you documented
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  things, you know. And obviously we still have art,
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  but art now is more of a it's taken on more of like a kind of
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  a poetic thing rather than being the primary source of
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  documentation, if you see what I'm saying.
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  And with this particular painting, the best way I can
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  describe it for for our listeners is like just a
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  standard kind of painting. And then right in the sky to the
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  far right corner is what looks by all intents and purposes like
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  a UFO. And it caused a bit of a stir.
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  And I got this particular explanation finally of what this
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  actually is. So this comes from walks inside
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  Florence dot IT, The mystery of the Madonna and the UFO.
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  That's our source. Always include your sources,
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  guys, and this is the quote. There's a simple enough
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  explanation. In many other paintings of the
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  nativity or adoration, we find a shepherd holding his head in a
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  similar way as he gazes in wonder at a luminous cloud,
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  often with an Angel emerging from it.
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  The Angel may not be included here, but with some of the
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  original gilding intact, art historians believe that it's
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  almost certainly the same bright cloud now.
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  So I'm caught in two minds with this, because that seems like a
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  very easy way to to explain it off.
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  And yeah, maybe it is, right. But have you ever seen a cloud
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  like that in your entire life? No, Sir.
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  I mean, I've seen some scary rain clouds like Thunder during
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  thunderstorms before, but that looks like a ship to me.
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  I don't know. Yeah man.
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  And some of the there's other paintings too, where there are
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  clear saucer shaped objects with like beams coming out of them
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  and stuff. It's so compelling.
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  It's 'cause as you said, these were, these weren't just pieces
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  of art. As we create art, these were
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  like documentation. They were telling stories.
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  Ancient civilizations often used art, whether it be sculpture
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  through monoliths, paintings to to explain stories, to convey
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  messages. Because it's universal, it
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  transcends language. And I think it's worth
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  mentioning too, that there are ancient, very ancient cave
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  paintings. Very rudimentary cave paintings,
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  but clearly show. Like normal sized humans and
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  then these large like beings with big Gray looking alien
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  heads. Very, very strange stuff.
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  And there's many, many stories that go back thousands of years
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  about potential visits from God, like figures from the heavens,
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  So many things like that. Very, very interesting stuff.
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  One thing we touched on in in the previous episodes was this
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  idea of of you know aliens monitoring us and obviously we
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  spoke about the idea of like their fascination seemingly with
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  war and and just in general observing us you know and and
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  the different reasons why they may or may not be observing us.
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  But I want to kind of speak briefly to this idea that let's
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  suppose that that was indeed aliens visiting us at various
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  points over history. Why do you think they took such
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  a? Have a look at this peen
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  interest in us in our more primitive stages.
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  I mean, I still think we're very primitive now, but we're
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  certainly a lot more advanced now compared to during Cavemen
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  times. Why would they seemingly come
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  down to earth and even interact with us?
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  To me, I feel like there are two major possibilities.
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  The one. They are interested in an
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  intelligent life form that's able to harness the power of
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  technology, whether it be fire, all the types of stuff that
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  we've been able to do that separate us from the rest of the
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  animal Kingdom and the insects and all this stuff.
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  You see a very clear difference between US and the rest of the
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  animals and life on the earth. So I mean, it would only make
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  sense to me that. They'd be interested.
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  I mean, look at us, for instance.
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  We're interested in ants and like every tiny little piece of
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  life that's possible to observe on this planet.
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  And we dedicate our, some people dedicate their lives to just
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  studying ants, bees, butterflies, you know?
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  So it only makes sense that an extraterrestrial civilization
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  would kind of have the same outlook on us.
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  And then the second possibility, which is the more fun
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  possibility, which I've been hearing a lot about as of late,
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  is that there was some sort of ancient hybridization program.
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  Have you heard of this? So it said.
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  It said that our DNA was merged and seeded with potential alien
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  DNA, which is why we are so much different than other animals and
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  if we. Have been tampered with.
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  You know, if they came down in ancient times and injected
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  monkeys with some sort of an altered DNA or maybe there was
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  some sort of sexual reproduction going on, which actually lends
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  itself to a lot of these interesting UFO sightings and
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  potential abductions that we may or may not get into, You would
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  think that they would want to keep tabs on their little
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  science projects. So that is a possibility as
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  well. Not all of us.
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  I mean, I know we touched on this last time, but that's just
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  messed up to think about. Like if that is true, we are
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  literally just the deformed offspring of aliens that messed
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  with us and that's all we are. Is this this?
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  That would explain largely as far as, like you know, it could
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  explain the illness to an extent, maybe potentially.
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  Yeah, I'm not sure if you've ever seen The Simpsons.
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  There's. The Simpsons episode Where?
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  Wait, sorry, I'm sure. Have you seen The Simpsons?
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  Yeah, I've seen The Simpsons. I don't live under about.
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  True, everybody. He's seen The Simpsons.
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  That's very true. But there's a really interesting
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  episode where Lisa has this science fair, and for her
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  project she has this like little.
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  A round bowl cup thing and she's like growing a a civilization in
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  there. Yeah, I love that.
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  Person you know? Yeah, that one really speaks to
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  this concept very accurately, I think.
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  Or maybe not accurately, but in a very fun way, Do you think
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  there's like many civilizations that exist like that?
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  In the UK? Oh, sorry.
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  In the UK? In the in the universe, oh
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  sorry. In the Earth, like university?
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  Very. Possible.
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  Very possible. And our universe is so vast that
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  who knows? I mean, I just heard recently
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  that they've updated their number to like, there's
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  trillions of galaxies, which means there's billions and
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  billions of stars, billions of planets.
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  I mean, who knows? Man, with the vastness of our
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  universe, there could be so many of this.
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  What if I can't believe I'm saying this on the show about
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  aliens and UFO sites? What if we're the only life in
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  all of those galaxies? Or maybe we're the last ones.
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  Like, who knows? Maybe, like, the universe was
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  vastly populated and we're just the final ones.
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  Whoa, that's the most depressing thing ever.
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  No, that can't be right. No, that's that's almost worse
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  that we were last 'cause that you think about the
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  possibilities there that we would have potentially missed
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  out on. Oh, no, no, no.
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  Crazy, Crazy. So now please correct me if I'm
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  wrong on this because this is what I found online.
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  The first well known UFO sighting supposedly occurred in
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  1947. This is courtesy of history.com
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  again. When businessman Kenneth Arnold
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  claimed to see a group of nine high speed objects near Mount
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  Rainier in Washington while flying his small plane, Arnold
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  estimated the speed of the Crescent shaped object as
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  several 1000 mph and said they moved like sources skipping on
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  water. In the newspaper report that
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  followed, it was mistakenly stated that the objects were
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  saucer shaped, hence the term flying saucer.
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  A bit confused by that because they are by all intents and
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  purposes always shaped in that that style aren't they?
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  I mean I've seen and we'll we'll get into this a little bit as
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  far as like shapes and stuff like that later on.
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  But that's kind of your classic style isn't it?
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  How it's always depicted as a circle of some description but
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  have you heard of any other sightings prior to this?
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  I mean this seems to be the most documented, like first initial
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  sighting. And of course we did speak about
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  in the previous episode about supposedly Benito Benito
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  Mussolini covering up a UFO crash and so on and so forth,
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  but but but those were like accusations, there was no facts,
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  whereas this is like actually documented and reported.
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  Yeah. One of the earlier ones that
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  I've seen, I think it was after this one that you're mentioning
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  is Betty and Barney Hill. Have you heard of these two
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  people? Yes, I shared this in my oh God,
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  I think I shared it in my alien abduction stories episode on
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  Patreon. Go check it out.
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  patreon.com/christian Reeve. Yeah, kind of a it's like the
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  it's interesting as well because it's like a standard couple in
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  their like 50s or 60s and if I remember correctly they were
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  driving out somewhere and there was like 2 hours that were
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  unaccounted for something like that.
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  But yeah, I. Believe they they saw a craft.
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  And then? Their car, I think it stopped
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  like it would, like, just shut down.
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  It stopped working. And then all of a sudden they
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  just have this missing time and they did this crazy.
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  There's a recording of it too. You can find probably on
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  YouTube, like a hypnotic regression to try to, like,
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  bring forth the experience through like, this hypnosis.
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  And it's spooky, man. Like, it's kind of scary the way
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  that, like, they're really struggling.
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  Like, no, no, no. Like they're it's really, really
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  messed up. It sounds kind of kind of scary.
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  Think it's real? Man, again, that's so hard.
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  You know, I I think that when I look at these experiences, I
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  tend to value them based off of the changes that you see in a
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  person's life or how it's affected them because.
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  It's hard to tell someone that their experience is invalid or
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  their experience isn't real. I can experience I I've had the
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  same thing happen to be with, you know, psychedelics.
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  As you know, we've talked about this at nauseam.
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  You know, I've had some really amazing experiences with
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  psychedelics, and for someone to tell me that my experience
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  wasn't real or it was invalid because science and math can't
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  measure it. That would bother me a bit
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  because the changes that have, you know, subsequently been
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  enacted in my life are real and tangible.
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  So I like to judge supernatural experiences based on that metric
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  because we don't have a physical scientific metric to to measure
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  these things. So it was frustrating, those
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  conversations as well because I've had similar experiences.
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  And then I talk about it, people who kind of completely deny that
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  that's possible and they will say like, Oh no, it can be
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  explained with this, explained with that.
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  And it's like, but these come down to like feelings.
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  And it's like I, I, I kind of refuse to believe that we are as
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  basic as some people might like us to believe.
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  You know, this idea that, you know, this is it, We're just
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  born, We live, we die, we have the basic senses and that's it.
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  And anything that seems untoward or like you can't explain away
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  is just, oh, that's just your mind hallucinating, messing with
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  you. It's like, well, how do you
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  explain paranormal experiences where, for example, you're
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  living in a house, right. And that house continually
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  remains haunted? Like I'll I'll give an example.
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  I was doing some car marshalling with you're going to believe
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  this a fellow actor I I found out he's actually been in some
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  some pretty big stuff so props to him.
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  I won't. I won't mention his name here
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  but we just met doing this like agency job right.
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  And we're just there we're chatting.
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  It's it's some of the easiest work I've ever done.
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  Like when you're doing agency work it's kind of funny like as
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  a jobbing actor you just take what you can get right.
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  And this obviously wasn't acting but we got to talk about it for
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  hours. Great.
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  Anyway, he's talking about paranormal experiences because I
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  happened to bring up that I've been covering it on my Patreon.
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  And he talks about this family home that was originally built
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  on a farm. How many times have we heard
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  this story where it's built on like an Indian burial ground or
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  somewhere of like, historical significance?
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  Whatever, right? It's a house built on what used
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  to be farmland, like a farmhouse.
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  And basically the original story is that the family that lived
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  there, like the whole place burned down except for like 1
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  room. And the same thing happened many
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  years later when this guy and his family were living in there.
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  But the interesting part is that like one of the family members
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  was dragged out of their bed by their legs and out of the room
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  and apparently this had happened in the farm originally.
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  Like the parents had dragged their their child out of the
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  room to protect them and stuff and basically this house
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  continued to be haunted. And no matter who would own the
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  house throughout the years, it would change ownership and and
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  different people would own it and they'd always talk about,
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  oh, this place is haunted, isn't it.
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  You know, or you'd have the classic like never feeling like
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  you're on your own kind of thing, which I hate when you
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  get, when you've got like 100% scientifically minded people
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  that are like, Oh, well, that's just clearly, you know, I don't
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  know the wind or like, you know, it's like, but that doesn't.
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  And and believe me, I'm all for science explaining things away.
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  But like, how how can you define that particular sensation of
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  like having seemingly like an entity or forced pulling you
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  away from something? How do you explain that?
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  You can't say it's the wind because it's targeted.
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  There's no, especially in a situation like a fire, you know,
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  unless it's like off the back of like a tornado destruction, that
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  kind of thing, Right. But like in these particular
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  instances, it's still and it's just like, you know, it's not
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  affected by that. Do you see what I'm saying?
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  And I'm always just looking at that and going like, OK, well,
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  how do you explain this logically?
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  How do you explain it away, you know?
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  Yeah, I mean, I think there's also an issue that we have where
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  like as a society, like a Western society, we're sort of
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  like obsessed with explaining things in this manner.
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  And I think it's because we've been brought up with this
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  physicalist paradigm of materialist science where it
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  almost acts as a religion. We think that if it can't be
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  verified in this particular physicalist, scientific
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  materialist way that it's not real.
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  And I think that's a problem because it kind of eliminates a
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  large aspect of life and life experiences that are super
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  impactful to people's lives. Absolutely.
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  Let's bring it back to UFO sightings.
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  I've got a couple of questions here that I believe were
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  originally sent by Vilma. So thank you so much, Vilma, as
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  always. You absolutely rock.
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  Thank you for your enthusiasm in the show of sending these out,
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  are UFO sightings and encounters just misidentifications of known
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  objects or phenomena? We kind of covered this a little
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  bit in in the first shows we did together.
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  I think, I think what I will say on this, on the answer to this
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  question is that I do think there are a lot of instances
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  where people do see something in the sky and they assume it's or
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  UFO and it's not. It's just like it could even be
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  a plane or whatever. But it kind of goes back to like
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  what I'd said to you about my experience, which is that there
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  have been things in the sky that I just couldn't attach to a
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  particular thing, like it's not the North Star, it's not space
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  station, it's not planes, helicopters, anything like that.
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  So it's something else. What is it?
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  And I do think that maybe if you were to put on a, on a scale of
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  like 1 to 100, I reckon probably like a good, like 80% of it
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  might actually be just misidentifications or people
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  seeing what they want to see. You know, I'm not saying that,
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  you know, people are lying per SE, but it's just that, you
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  know, a bit like in in science when you've got like a
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  particular hypothesis and you're chasing this particular
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  hypothesis so much because you want it to be real and you're
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  you're trying to find anything to to prove it, Right.
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  That doesn't make it so. But I do think there's like that
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  20% of yeah, this is something that you can't explain.
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  This isn't human. This isn't so in the falls in
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  that category. What say you, Mr. Josh?
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  Yeah, man, I think that there are vast amount that are just
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  misidentifications of course, but I'm going to go on a little
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  bit of a tangent here. So OK, I do think that.
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  So we have this this strange association that whenever we see
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  a UFO or we think about a UFO, we think UFO aliens.
• 22:08
  But there are plenty of things that.
• 22:12
  You know, 30-40 fifty years ago we had like these projects to
• 22:17
  create flying stealth bombers and things like that.
• 22:21
  And if you saw one of those in the sky that is a UFO, it's an
• 22:24
  unidentified flying object. You don't know what it is.
• 22:28
  So I think a lot of these are government.
• 22:31
  I think there is a lot of evidence of potential back
• 22:34
  engineering or even if it's not back engineering.
• 22:39
  It's just very possible that we've discovered this technology
• 22:41
  that allows these objects to go crazy and move in very strange
• 22:45
  ways and we just don't know about it as as citizens.
• 22:49
  And the really interesting ones that are, let's say the 20% that
• 22:54
  are pretty real and that we seem to all agree that are are pretty
• 22:59
  credible. These are experiences that
• 23:04
  people have been testifying to Congress about.
• 23:08
  They have been protected under this new whistleblower
• 23:11
  protection law that allows people to go through the proper
• 23:15
  channels to whistleblow on these programs.
• 23:18
  And it's interesting, there was just in July, there was a
• 23:23
  congressional hearing with three guys, David Grush, Ryan Graves
• 23:27
  and David Flavor. These are all the David Flavor
• 23:31
  and Ryan Graves are both military guys.
• 23:35
  David Grush is is Acia guy. And there were a lot of
• 23:38
  questions that were asked by our Congress to David Grush
• 23:41
  specifically where he said, I mean this happened like 1012
• 23:45
  times where he said I'm not able to share this with you, to share
• 23:50
  the answer to that question with you in a public setting like
• 23:52
  this. But we can get a skiff and we
• 23:53
  can go and have a private hearing and I can tell you all
• 23:58
  of the information that you want to hear.
• 24:01
  And these were some pretty deep questions, you know.
• 24:03
  Involving defense contracting and government like dark private
• 24:08
  government stuff. And the interesting thing is
• 24:11
  just recently I think it was just the information was
• 24:13
  released this week. They approved the skiff which is
• 24:17
  the the private hearing. But then the Department of
• 24:21
  Defense essentially brought the Congress in and then said to
• 24:24
  them, you don't have clearance to know this information because
• 24:28
  what they were trying to do was they were trying to.
• 24:32
  Received the documents that David Grush was referring to
• 24:36
  involving the programs of back engineering and down craft that
• 24:39
  we have and they basically just straight up told our Congress
• 24:43
  that our the Department of Defense told the Congress you
• 24:46
  don't have clearance to see these documents.
• 24:48
  So we're just not going to share it with you.
• 24:51
  So when you have experiences that are based like the like the
• 24:56
  the experiences that people are having.
• 24:58
  Where they where our government is not allowing clearance to our
• 25:01
  Congress. That to me is part of that 20%
• 25:04
  of the real experiences and sightings.
• 25:07
  OK, if you give my ignorance 'cause I don't, I'm not 100%
• 25:11
  understanding of of like Congress's structure within
• 25:18
  within US politics. So Congress in the Senate, that
• 25:22
  is that the same thing? It's not the same thing.
• 25:26
  OK. So can you just break this down
• 25:30
  for me a little bit because and what my question is, is you
• 25:37
  obviously you got, you got the, the president and their
• 25:40
  administration, right. So like the president would have
• 25:43
  clearance, right, And their administration would have
• 25:46
  clearance and then it goes Congress right after that and
• 25:53
  and Senate like what, what, what's the structure very
• 25:55
  briefly? Well, it's funny, you know you
• 25:57
  you would think the president has clearance, but that's the
• 26:01
  interesting thing about this is that the president doesn't get
• 26:03
  this information. They don't have any clearance
• 26:05
  for this either. The President, the Senate, the
• 26:08
  Congress, none of our elected officials 0 have access to this
• 26:13
  information. And that's the craziest part
• 26:16
  about this. If there, you got to think if
• 26:18
  there is. A technological advancement or
• 26:22
  some sort of information on UFOs, aliens, whatever.
• 26:26
  And your private like shadow government and your and and your
• 26:32
  your Department of Defense is not allowing your elected
• 26:36
  officials to have the information that to me that
• 26:40
  lends so much credence to this phenomenon.
• 26:45
  I mean, also from a perspective of national security, you'd need
• 26:49
  to know about this information just in case it becomes a
• 26:53
  security risk, you know, for for like your everyday people.
• 26:57
  Like, I, I find that bizarre. I mean, what power do they
• 27:01
  really have? How how can they have?
• 27:04
  I mean, isn't the defence, the the Ministry of Defence that's
• 27:09
  supposed to be under your government anyway?
• 27:13
  Like, I, I I mean, unless they're like private
• 27:15
  organization, but. These are unelected.
• 27:19
  They're unelected people who are like lifetime government
• 27:24
  bureaucrats. And most of them work for
• 27:27
  defense contractors because the real way that America runs is
• 27:31
  through defense contracting, right.
• 27:32
  So we're getting there because we we covered this in the
• 27:35
  original episode. But all the companies that are
• 27:38
  telling, sorry, all the organizations that are telling
• 27:42
  Congress we can't give you clearance are private
• 27:46
  contractors, essentially is what you're saying.
• 27:49
  So it's it's generally it's the Department of Defense and the
• 27:52
  Pentagon like they that's the organization because there's no
• 27:56
  way that like that a company can tell our Congress because you
• 28:01
  know the these companies they're not affiliated quote UN quote
• 28:04
  affiliated, but it's the DoD and what they're doing is they're
• 28:08
  basically working for the contractors.
• 28:11
  I just don't understand how one part of the government can tell
• 28:13
  another part of the government. You can't see this.
• 28:16
  Especially when the government, the the part of the government
• 28:20
  that they're telling like you can't see this are technically
• 28:24
  higher in the hierarchy. If you're the president and you
• 28:28
  demand the Department of Defence to tell you give me clearance on
• 28:32
  this and they say no, how, how can they say no?
• 28:35
  Who's really in charge? I mean obviously, yeah, it's a
• 28:38
  big question and it it that's a podcast for another time.
• 28:41
  But like I I don't understand that how they like.
• 28:45
  I guess the president just doesn't have that power then at
• 28:47
  all. Like what president?
• 28:49
  What part, what clues does the president even have?
• 28:52
  They can't even. That's the most interesting part
• 28:56
  of this topic to me. Like, the sightings are cool,
• 28:59
  the abductions are really interesting.
• 29:01
  But when you really look into what our government's actions
• 29:06
  have been involving this yo it it opens the door to so many
• 29:11
  questions like. If this is real, how long have
• 29:16
  you known about it? What else have you lied about?
• 29:19
  You say non human intelligence, What does that mean?
• 29:22
  How long have they been here? Are you in contact with them?
• 29:25
  Do they have technology? Do we have the technology?
• 29:28
  Are you in agreements with them? Are you trading with?
• 29:30
  I mean there is just. It is paradigm shattering, which
• 29:35
  is why I think there there's, it's interesting, you see there
• 29:37
  there's like 2 factions within our government that are
• 29:40
  quarreling right now, our elected officials and then are
• 29:43
  like Department of Defense, which is run by the contractors
• 29:46
  of the military. And it's just so interesting
• 29:49
  that I feel like these these these defense people, they will
• 29:53
  do anything they can to make sure we do not find out the real
• 29:57
  information here and. To their credit, I think that
• 30:00
  there are certain things that maybe we shouldn't know about,
• 30:04
  maybe they shouldn't disclose certain things because there are
• 30:07
  home, there are security problems potentially with other
• 30:12
  countries. Who knows?
• 30:14
  Like, are we sharing this technology with them if if our
• 30:18
  government releases certain? Specifics on technology to its
• 30:23
  people. Then the rest of the world's
• 30:24
  going to get that information too.
• 30:26
  And the rest of the world, just like us, tend to weaponize
• 30:30
  technology. So I understand why they
• 30:32
  wouldn't want to share everything with us, but I think
• 30:34
  we should get a little more information than what they're
• 30:36
  giving right now. It's a weird one as well because
• 30:39
  like, OK, let's suppose that the rest of the world does know.
• 30:44
  It's insane that we're fighting. I mean, I'm not going to get
• 30:48
  political here, but like, I hate what's going on in the world
• 30:51
  now. I hate any kind of violence,
• 30:53
  war, you know, I'm all about peace and love.
• 30:55
  I know that's like a super hippy thing to say, but it's like you
• 30:58
  said in the last show we did together.
• 31:00
  Like, I believe that's the best of what humanity has to offer.
• 31:04
  And, you know, unity and coming together and working on things,
• 31:07
  that's when we're at our best, you know, peace and love and and
• 31:11
  sharing and helping each other out.
• 31:13
  That is what we need to help us get the things we want.
• 31:17
  You know, one day we could we could travel the stars, but
• 31:22
  that's not going to happen if we're still fighting amongst
• 31:24
  ourselves right now adding into that our conversation today
• 31:28
  about aliens and in UFOs and UFO sightings.
• 31:31
  I mean, if the world governments all do know about this and they
• 31:36
  let's just say we are in contact with aliens and they know about
• 31:39
  this, what the fuck are they doing fighting with the wars
• 31:43
  that they have? Like surely we should be, like
• 31:45
  more concerned about what if these aliens turn around and
• 31:48
  decide to like just kill the lot of us, you know, surely that
• 31:52
  supersedes any, like, problems that we have here on earth.
• 31:55
  Maybe we should just put our differences aside and just focus
• 31:57
  on this bigger potential problem, you know?
• 32:00
  Or at least have some sort of solution towards it, you know?
• 32:03
  But in what you said there, I think we might have our answer.
• 32:08
  I think the US is not disclosing this information to the rest of
• 32:12
  the world. And I think as you said, part of
• 32:15
  that is a security thing because they don't want the rest of the
• 32:17
  world to have access to that information because it could
• 32:20
  backfire. And let's face it, certain
• 32:22
  countries would weaponize that and use that.
• 32:25
  And it might create even more war.
• 32:26
  Like it could even create World War Three.
• 32:28
  We don't know. But I think another aspect to it
• 32:32
  potentially could be it sounds like a cop out but this idea
• 32:38
  that you know maybe the the US just knows that the worst of the
• 32:41
  rest of the world isn't ready for it and the US happens to be
• 32:45
  the nation the part of the world where alien.
• 32:48
  Because then let's face it, like the the majority of of alien
• 32:51
  contact and that's the one I'm looking for activity has been in
• 32:58
  the States. You know, like that's very
• 33:00
  evident in the shows we've done together.
• 33:02
  Like we've most of the stories have come from the United
• 33:05
  States. A few have been from different
• 33:06
  parts of the world. And I've got loads of signs
• 33:09
  we're going to get into about outside of the US But facts
• 33:12
  still remains. The majority come from the US
• 33:15
  and as we stated in the last episode together, like the US is
• 33:18
  kind of like the authority on this.
• 33:20
  You know, like whenever somewhere in the world there's
• 33:23
  an alien situ, potential UFO situation like that the story
• 33:28
  you raised in the last episode about Americans going to Africa
• 33:31
  and sort of controlling that situation, you know, what are
• 33:35
  Americans doing in Africa? But in this particular instance,
• 33:38
  it's like, OK, we're quote, UN quote, like peacekeeping or like
• 33:42
  taking control of this situation, you know?
• 33:47
  And we show up right away. It's very, very strange.
• 33:50
  Like the Americans, they show up instantly.
• 33:52
  You got the the Black SU VS the classic, you know, right away.
• 33:57
  And they just take everything, dude, right.
• 34:03
  I I think there are some, there's some accuracy to that.
• 34:06
  There's the Men in Black concept is super interesting.
• 34:09
  There's a lot of weird, weird stories about them, too.
• 34:13
  You know, I remember thinking like, oh, this is just a great
• 34:15
  film series, which it is. But then I started looking into
• 34:19
  it and like that. You've ever seen that picture
• 34:20
  of, like, the two creepy men and black guys walking into like, a
• 34:24
  bank or something. And like, there's all these the
• 34:27
  stories of, like, people showing off people's doors and just,
• 34:31
  like, telling them, like, shut your mouth, stop talking about
• 34:33
  these things. That's terrifying.
• 34:36
  It is. And not only have they've, like
• 34:39
  come to people's houses to warn them, they've also come to
• 34:42
  people's houses and just exhibited high strangeness, like
• 34:47
  to scare people, like in a weird way, like to creep them out.
• 34:51
  So, so strange. And there's a story that I just
• 34:53
  heard kind of recently where there were two people who had a
• 34:56
  sighting in the same town, but they lived in different places a
• 34:59
  little bit, you know, 5 minutes away from each other or
• 35:01
  something. And so the one woman, there were
• 35:05
  two women, and the one woman woman had these two men and
• 35:07
  black dudes come to her door. And then right away she called
• 35:12
  her friend afterward and said, yo, these two people came to my
• 35:15
  door and like, they were really creepy.
• 35:16
  And it was about this UFO experience that we both had.
• 35:19
  And she said, yeah, they were just at my door too, at the
• 35:22
  exact same time doing this weird, creepy shit.
• 35:25
  Like a very strange stuff. Yo, that's mad.
• 35:31
  Again, who Who knows if these are real or true or, you know, I
• 35:34
  mean, but they're out there, and there are so many of these
• 35:37
  stories that it's almost hard to just discount them.
• 35:40
  They're interesting, though. They're they're definitely fun.
• 35:43
  I do apologize to our listeners, but sometimes I am at a loss for
• 35:46
  words with some of these because you know, really all you ever
• 35:50
  find yourself getting from these topics when you do the research
• 35:54
  is more and more and more questions.
• 35:57
  You never get any answers. It's just questions, questions,
• 35:59
  questions, questions. Interesting questions, but
• 36:03
  nevertheless just no answers. Here's an interesting question.
• 36:11
  I googled this. I googled all these questions to
• 36:13
  kind of find an angle somewhere to a starting point.
• 36:16
  I could not find anything here and I can only really speak for
• 36:20
  the US and the UK as far as like what the question entails, but
• 36:25
  I'd be interested in getting your thoughts.
• 36:26
  Maybe we can go somewhere with this.
• 36:28
  How do UFO sightings and beliefs differ across different
• 36:31
  countries and cultures? Now I'm given the UK perspective
• 36:37
  which is it's definitely, I think we we we kind of assume
• 36:45
  the same mindset as the US but we're a bit more level headed
• 36:48
  about it. No offence, but like, but again,
• 36:52
  that does come down to where you're at because I feel like
• 36:54
  stateside, you know, you've essentially got 50 million
• 36:58
  countries, really. If you really think about it,
• 37:00
  like every state is so different.
• 37:02
  You know, you go Texas or New York, it's it's like a different
• 37:05
  place entirely. You know, the only thing that
• 37:07
  really unites you is like your your key things that every
• 37:11
  American has and identifies with, right?
• 37:14
  And then whatever federal laws supersede and are the same
• 37:19
  everywhere in the, in the, in the States.
• 37:21
  But then other things are different from a law perspective
• 37:25
  and culturally that give you a different, I mean even by
• 37:28
  physically just how things look, the terrain etcetera, it's all
• 37:32
  different. Whereas in the UK, you go
• 37:34
  anywhere in the UK for the most part.
• 37:37
  You know, if you're in London, Manchester, Liverpool, whatever,
• 37:39
  you'll see a lot of familiarity especially in culture and and
• 37:43
  and mindset and stuff. But then again there is a big
• 37:46
  difference between the North and the South.
• 37:48
  And you know, so it's it's kind of, I'm talking shit, but I'm
• 37:53
  also writing this if you know what I mean.
• 37:54
  Like it's it's yes. But when when it comes to UFOSI
• 37:57
  mean the general consensus I I feel in the UK is just like
• 38:01
  it's, you know, we just look at American media and think it's
• 38:05
  all BS and it's like, you know, Oh yeah, we like that show The
• 38:07
  X-Files. But like, you know, it's just
• 38:09
  not not like a real thing maybe or maybe it's like a a weird
• 38:15
  phenomenon but who knows. But then I'm going to give you a
• 38:18
  bit of a spoiler. I found a bunch of like UFO
• 38:21
  sightings from the UK and we'll get into that later.
• 38:24
  But it really opened my eyes up about people believing in the
• 38:31
  concept of UFOs. And then it might actually mean
• 38:33
  something. There might be something there.
• 38:35
  So I don't know, I am speaking for the people, but maybe feel
• 38:39
  free to disagree with me. Anyone listening that's from the
• 38:41
  UK through your opinions in the comments, let me know what you
• 38:45
  think. But what say you, Josh?
• 38:47
  How how the UFO sightings and beliefs differ across different
• 38:50
  countries and cultures? Well.
• 38:54
  Unsurprisingly, they don't differ a whole lot.
• 38:56
  I mean there is a very big variety of what is potentially
• 39:00
  reported and seen. But there's a there's so many
• 39:04
  similarities, so, so many. I mean, we talked earlier just a
• 39:08
  little bit. You touched on some of the
• 39:10
  different shapes that you see, the saucer shape, the cigar
• 39:13
  shape, the Tic Tac shape, the sphere, the sphere is really
• 39:18
  intriguing because that is has been seen everywhere.
• 39:21
  So there's a lot of consistencies between the shapes
• 39:26
  and then when you want to talk about like maybe even abductions
• 39:29
  and stories with contact. There's so, so many similarities
• 39:35
  there as well. In terms of like their
• 39:38
  mentality, their goals, the way that they treat us, they
• 39:43
  generally tend to treat us as almost like objects.
• 39:49
  There's there's an interesting story at this guy named Travis
• 39:52
  Walton, who he was with a group of of woodworkers.
• 39:57
  They're like in in the woods, there were some, some some sort
• 40:00
  of lumberjacks. There were like six of them, I
• 40:03
  think, and they stumbled upon this crazy UFO just kind of
• 40:08
  hanging out in in in the forest. This is one of the most famous
• 40:11
  circumstances of a UFO sighting. There's a movie about it,
• 40:14
  there's books, there's all kinds of stuff.
• 40:16
  You can find this guy was on Joe Rogan.
• 40:18
  I mean he's he's a pretty big experiencer and Long story short
• 40:23
  this thing started to like emanate with energy and he just
• 40:26
  runs toward it. He's like what the hell is this
• 40:28
  thing and runs toward it And then it kind of like shock like
• 40:31
  a shockwave of energy comes out and it it like hits him and
• 40:35
  damages him in some way. So his, his friends, they
• 40:38
  bounce. They're like, I am out of here.
• 40:40
  And they go. And so they come back, like
• 40:44
  eventually. And they say, man, we got to
• 40:45
  come get this guy. We can't leave him out there.
• 40:47
  So they come back. Dude's gone, completely gone.
• 40:49
  And then he goes on to describe an experience where he was
• 40:54
  basically taken onto a craft and he's freaking out.
• 40:59
  I mean, just going nuts out of fear.
• 41:01
  And they're just like, dude, shut up and just relax.
• 41:04
  We're trying to help you. We're trying to work on you.
• 41:07
  And it basically was a a situation where they were trying
• 41:09
  to like heal him of the damage that he received when he got hit
• 41:13
  by this like wave of energy. And then all of a sudden six
• 41:18
  days later it was dude just shows up in it like he's just
• 41:23
  dropped in a town and just out of nowhere like a an outskirt
• 41:28
  town and goes to a a, you know a pay phone and and calls his
• 41:32
  family and you know they come get him.
• 41:33
  But his friends were all about to be like try like they were
• 41:37
  being charged and investigated for murder.
• 41:41
  Because this guy was gone for six days.
• 41:43
  No one knew where he was. So just as you know, these these
• 41:46
  stories are are just so interesting, man.
• 41:49
  Endlessly fascinating. We spoke earlier about have
• 41:53
  there been any credible UFO sightings by reputable
• 41:56
  witnesses. Now in the last episode I
• 41:59
  mentioned, I mean, I don't know if you get any more credible
• 42:02
  than U.S. President Carter.
• 42:03
  I mean that's that's pretty credible, you know?
• 42:06
  Right. He was in the runnings for
• 42:08
  presidency at that point, but then you know he got it.
• 42:10
  But there you go. But I've also found accounts
• 42:13
  from air traffic controllers, police officers, military
• 42:17
  personnel, former RAF pilots, the works.
• 42:20
  And now we're going to start getting into those.
• 42:22
  Let's get into the meaty goodness of it. history.com.
• 42:26
  This article was by Robert Shapiro and here.
• 42:30
  Here are some of the kind of most.
• 42:33
  Let's say credible accounts and, and it's interesting they they
• 42:37
  range from early 2000s all the way to 2015, which I was quite
• 42:41
  surprised to see like really, really recent accounts.
• 42:44
  Let's delve into them. The lights above the New Jersey
• 42:47
  Turnpike in 2001. So it takes a lot for motorists
• 42:51
  to stop alongside a highway to look towards the sky.
• 42:54
  That's a lie. I've seen people stop and just
• 42:58
  like stare at, like. What is it, John?
• 43:01
  Jim Cornette always says it's the two dogs fucking on the
• 43:04
  sidewalk thing where, like, you just stop and look like people
• 43:08
  stop and look for anything. That's lies.
• 43:10
  But on July 14th, 2001, drivers on the New Jersey Turnpike we're
• 43:15
  doing for around 15 minutes just after midnight, they marvelled
• 43:19
  at the sight of strange orange and yellow lights in AV
• 43:23
  formation. Keep that in mind, because
• 43:25
  that's useful for later. Over the Arthur Kiln waterway
• 43:29
  between Staten Island, NY and Carteret, NJ Never heard of
• 43:33
  that. Carteret police departments.
• 43:37
  I hope I'm saying that correctly.
• 43:39
  It's like Carteret Carteret Carteret police departments.
• 43:46
  Daniel Tarrant was one of the witnesses, as well as other
• 43:49
  metro area residents from the Frog's Neck Bridge on Long
• 43:53
  Island Fort Lee, NJ, near the George Washington Bridge.
• 43:57
  Air traffic controllers initially denied that any
• 44:00
  airplanes, military jets, or space flights could have caused
• 44:03
  the mysterious lights. But a group known as the New
• 44:05
  York Strange Phenomena Investigators, or New York Spy
• 44:09
  Brilliant claim to receive FAA radar data that corroborated the
• 44:14
  UFO sightings from that night. We see this a lot where like
• 44:18
  officials say one thing, it changes.
• 44:23
  Other people say something else. I really do feel this lends
• 44:27
  credence to this idea that they just don't want to tell us, you
• 44:31
  know, I know it's Captain Conspiracy back again.
• 44:33
  But honestly they always, it's just it's always just like a no,
• 44:39
  no, no, no. It's not that.
• 44:41
  It's never just like a it could be that or we don't know.
• 44:44
  It's always no, no, no, no, There's no way.
• 44:46
  It must just be this. And it's like, well, if your air
• 44:48
  traffic controllers and people like that are telling you that
• 44:51
  it's not that and like they it's, they're legally required
• 44:54
  to tell the truth. Then where does that leave you?
• 44:57
  You know, where does that leave what you're trying to tell
• 45:00
  people Your official account means nothing.
• 45:03
  And I'm surprised that doesn't kind of get to the the general
• 45:06
  public. More so to be honest, like when
• 45:09
  when you're blatantly and like completely being lied to and
• 45:12
  there's there's, there's there's no shredded doubt and people
• 45:16
  were just like, who knows? I don't understand that.
• 45:22
  The USS Nimitz encounter of 2004, By the way, I'll just say
• 45:26
  Josh, feel free to interrupt me at any point.
• 45:28
  If there's anything you want to extrapolate on, by all means.
• 45:32
  On November 14th, 2004, the USS Princeton, part of the USS
• 45:36
  Nimitz carrier strike group, noted an unknown craft on radar
• 45:41
  100 miles off the coast of San Diego.
• 45:43
  For two weeks, the the crew have been tracking objects that
• 45:46
  appeared at 80,000 feet and then plummeted to hover right above
• 45:50
  the Pacific Ocean. When 2FA18 fighter jets, sorry,
• 45:55
  FA18F fighter jets from the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz
• 45:59
  arrived in the area, they first saw what appeared to be churning
• 46:03
  water with a shadow of an Oval shape underneath the surface.
• 46:08
  Then in a few moments, a white Tic Tac shaped object appeared
• 46:12
  above the water. It had no visible markings to
• 46:16
  indicate an engine, wings, or windows, and infrared monitors
• 46:20
  didn't reveal any exhaust. I didn't even know infrared
• 46:22
  could do that. Black ACES Commander David Bravo
• 46:28
  and Fraver, thank you. And Lieutenant Commander Jim
• 46:31
  Slate of the Strike Fighter Squadron F41.
• 46:35
  It's not so Badass attempted to intercept the craft, but it
• 46:39
  accelerated away, reappearing on radar 60 miles away.
• 46:44
  It moved three times the speed of sound and more than twice the
• 46:48
  speed of the fighter jets. And we're going to get more into
• 46:52
  the speed and the sound later on by just.
• 46:56
  It kind of goes back to what you said before about these
• 46:59
  consistencies, patterns across all these different stories,
• 47:03
  always the same things again, again and again.
• 47:06
  And you got to remember guys as well that this is stuff that's
• 47:11
  being reported a lot of the time.
• 47:13
  There's one thing if it's just someone, you know, middle of
• 47:16
  nowhere and they're just giving you an account of what they
• 47:18
  think they saw, right, versus when.
• 47:20
  It's like official facts like this is how fast it was going,
• 47:23
  this is where it was in the sky, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
• 47:26
  That's just pure fact. There's no story there.
• 47:30
  There's no one you know. I mean, I suppose you can make
• 47:33
  the argument that someone could be like giving false.
• 47:37
  Readings. But then you know, like that can
• 47:39
  be checked anyway, so and you could be arrested for for not
• 47:44
  giving the accurate information, you know.
• 47:45
  But yeah, it's interesting stuff.
• 47:48
  You know what's interesting too about a lot of these military
• 47:51
  sightings is that if you look into like some of the people, a
• 47:55
  lot of the people who are in the military flying these F
• 47:58
  eighteens and stuff, these sightings are happening like
• 48:01
  weekly. I mean they are, there are so
• 48:05
  many way more than you would think.
• 48:07
  But the problem is, is that a lot of these military guys, they
• 48:10
  don't want to report it because that you have to go through a
• 48:14
  whole bunch of red tape, paperwork, all kinds of stuff to
• 48:17
  report this and you eventually are looked down on it anyway and
• 48:23
  you're put through the wringer. So a lot of these guys, they
• 48:25
  don't even report it. I was going to share this
• 48:28
  earlier, but connecting to your point, the National UFO
• 48:32
  Reporting Centre, right? Or New Fork, have a database
• 48:37
  published on a website called Cagle and between 1910 and 2014
• 48:43
  there were over 80,000 records of UFO sightings.
• 48:48
  That's just between 1910 to 2014.
• 48:50
  And speaking to your point, there's plenty of.
• 48:53
  People reporting this stuff, but whether or not it gets acted
• 48:56
  upon or used in any way, I don't know.
• 48:59
  I think a lot of the time they just keep trying to bat it away
• 49:01
  and be like, no, no, no, no. But eventually, one day, they're
• 49:04
  going to have to take notice, or at least acknowledge that maybe
• 49:09
  people actually did see something.
• 49:13
  Not to mention, I mean yo, if you've got an object that is
• 49:17
  interfering with military training and some of these
• 49:22
  things like I'm not sure if you have the story of Ryan Graves,
• 49:26
  but he talks about there, you know they have two F eighteens
• 49:28
  and they're like flying in formation very close to one
• 49:31
  another and these objects will just zoom in the in between
• 49:34
  them, fly around them, which makes it a security problem and
• 49:38
  it's dangerous to be up in the sky in a in a jet that can fly.
• 49:42
  This the you know the speed of sound and then when there's some
• 49:45
  unidentified object zipping around you that's faster than
• 49:48
  you, has capabilities that you've never seen before and
• 49:51
  then you're seeing on a weekly basis that's dangerous.
• 49:54
  You know that that that there's a a problem there with the
• 49:58
  disconnect between what we know and what they're keeping secret.
• 50:03
  Because if the government is keeping things that are like
• 50:05
  secret that are detrimental to the safety of of our military,
• 50:09
  that's just one more reason for them to disclose at least
• 50:12
  something to us. And also for the commercials,
• 50:15
  flying sense as well. I mean, I think sometimes maybe
• 50:18
  people forget that like air traffic controllers, they're not
• 50:21
  just there to help planes land safely.
• 50:24
  They're also there to control what's going on in the sky.
• 50:28
  Because there's so many people flying around, not just in like,
• 50:32
  you know, commercial airlines, but also just like private
• 50:34
  planes and stuff like private planes have to radio in and tell
• 50:37
  like, oh, this is my location, this is what I'm doing, you
• 50:40
  know, So they don't end up crashing into people.
• 50:42
  Because you might be in the direct flight path of a
• 50:44
  particular plane without knowing otherwise.
• 50:47
  You know, it's not like you can just, like, steer out of the way
• 50:49
  at the last minute like you could if you were in a car like
• 50:52
  Buddy. Like, that's not how it works.
• 50:55
  So yeah, the safety factor is is is so essential, let's move it
• 51:01
  forward. The O'Hare International Airport
• 51:03
  saucer from 2006 Flight 446 was getting ready to fly to North
• 51:09
  Carolina. From Chicago's O'Hare
• 51:11
  International Airport, when a United States employee on the
• 51:15
  tarmac noticed a dark grey metallic craft hovering over
• 51:19
  Gate C-17. That day, November 7th of 2006,
• 51:24
  a total of 12 United employees and a few witnesses outside the
• 51:28
  airport spotted the source of shaped craft around 4:15 PM.
• 51:32
  This is always interesting to me as well, because like you've got
• 51:34
  several sets of people there. You know people who who have no
• 51:39
  reason. To lie about this information,
• 51:42
  you know, I know everyone's going to be in the comments
• 51:44
  like, oh, come on, man, people lie all the time.
• 51:46
  You're right. But why would like onlookers,
• 51:49
  you know, outside the airport care?
• 51:52
  Do you know what I mean? Like, you know, you're probably
• 51:53
  just there standing there having a cigarette, waiting to pick up
• 51:55
  whoever from the airport, and you spot something crazy in the
• 51:58
  sky and you say what you saw, you know?
• 52:01
  But they could all leave it, I guess.
• 52:04
  The witnesses say it hovered for around 5 minutes before shooting
• 52:07
  upward where it broke a hole in the clouds enough the pilots and
• 52:12
  mechanics could see the blue sky.
• 52:13
  That's crazy, man. The news report became the most
• 52:16
  read story on the Chicago Tribune's website to that date
• 52:20
  and made international news. However, because the UFO was not
• 52:24
  seen on radar, the FAA called it a weather phenomenon and they
• 52:28
  declined to investigate. Weather phenomenon.
• 52:33
  Bullshit. I'm cooling.
• 52:36
  Bullshit. Come on.
• 52:37
  What you gonna tell me that's like a rain cloud?
• 52:39
  Screw you. The Stevens always use weather
• 52:43
  phenomenon or weather balloon that that's an or swamp gas.
• 52:46
  They always use something stupid as an excuse.
• 52:49
  I know, it's ridiculous. It's down to swamp swamp gas.
• 52:58
  The small town of Stephenville, TX.
• 53:00
  This is in 2800 miles southwest of Dallas, is mostly known for
• 53:04
  its dairy farms. But on the evening of January
• 53:07
  8th, 2008, dozens of its residents feud something unique
• 53:11
  in the sky. Citizens reported seeing white
• 53:14
  lights above Hwy. 67. First in a single horizontal arc
• 53:19
  and then in vertical parallel lights.
• 53:21
  Local pilot Steve Allen estimated the strobe lights
• 53:24
  spanned about a mile long and a half mile wide, travelling about
• 53:28
  3000 mph. No sound was reported.
• 53:33
  Again, keep that in mind. Everybody listening for later
• 53:37
  witnesses believe the event was reminiscent of the Phoenix
• 53:40
  Lights sightings of 1997. While the US Air Force revealed
• 53:44
  weeks later that the F sixteens were flying in the Brownwood
• 53:47
  military operating areas just southwest of Stephenville, many
• 53:52
  townspeople didn't buy that explanation.
• 53:56
  Good on you believing that they saw what they saw was too
• 53:59
  technologically advanced for current human abilities.
• 54:02
  Yeah, I mean, that's a solid point as well.
• 54:04
  Like of all the technology we we we have what actually gets
• 54:09
  released and used. Is it takes time before we get
• 54:14
  to that point. I remember one time I was
• 54:17
  sitting there with my dad talking about this and I don't
• 54:21
  know how this came up about, but there was this idea that like
• 54:23
  the military is always 50 years ahead of in terms of technology,
• 54:27
  but it's always in the experimentation phase.
• 54:30
  So in theory we had the ability to for example.
• 54:35
  Do stuff with like an iPod many, many years prior, but it was not
• 54:39
  actualised and commercialised until many years later because
• 54:42
  they were still figuring out how to do it.
• 54:44
  You know, it's all well and good having the technology, but
• 54:48
  figuring out how to use it and how to use it on mass is
• 54:52
  something different. I mean, Internet is a good
• 54:54
  example that existed as a military tool initially and
• 54:57
  then, you know, became what the Internet is today.
• 55:00
  But it went in stages. Yeah, and it was
• 55:03
  experimentation. Even now, there's
• 55:05
  experimentation and it's it goes in stages and it takes time to
• 55:09
  develop and evolve. Yeah.
• 55:12
  You know, I think it's an important point to touch on
• 55:14
  here, which is that not only like is this a technological
• 55:21
  advancement, you know, when you want to look at say, oh maybe
• 55:23
  the military and the government has 50 years on, you know, what
• 55:26
  is in the consumer market. The the difference I think here,
• 55:30
  which is very stark, is what these craft are doing aren't
• 55:35
  just like high technology. They're literally defying our
• 55:40
  current knowledge of physics, of propulsion.
• 55:44
  Because when like every single thing that we use that travels
• 55:50
  anywhere leaves a heat signature because you need to have some
• 55:54
  sort of a propulsion system to make it go forward.
• 55:57
  And most of these craft that we're seeing, as you had
• 56:00
  mentioned, there is no visible heat signature which means there
• 56:04
  is no propulsion. So these things are moving
• 56:08
  without being propelled by heat and they are, they are going so
• 56:14
  fast and doing things, making maneuvers that are so advanced
• 56:19
  that they break our current paradigm of physics itself.
• 56:23
  So this is super interesting because it's not only a
• 56:28
  technological advancement, but it's something that just breaks
• 56:32
  apart the current paradigm that we use to measure everything
• 56:36
  that we think is real. They just came to mind for me
• 56:41
  while I was kind of looking over all these different UFO signs
• 56:45
  was and I don't know if you looked into this, I I didn't
• 56:47
  look into this, but just maybe you'd heard when the world shut
• 56:51
  down during COVID. So we know of any particular
• 56:56
  spikes in UFO activity at that point or sightings or anything
• 56:59
  of that kind. That's a good question.
• 57:02
  I haven't heard of any increase I would have.
• 57:04
  Thought that'd be a perfect time if if indeed there are aliens
• 57:08
  observing us to observe us because whoa, they've stopped,
• 57:11
  What are they doing? Wildlife is returning to its
• 57:15
  like natural patterns, etcetera. Things are, you know, shifting
• 57:19
  and evolving a lot. I would have thought that'd be a
• 57:21
  prime opportunity to. Observe us and how we interact
• 57:25
  with a worldwide phenomenon. Yeah, very true.
• 57:29
  I mean, it does seem that they come around during times of
• 57:33
  chaos a lot wartime and things like that.
• 57:36
  So maybe it's like maybe it was boring for them.
• 57:40
  They had nothing to look at because like, oh, they're just
• 57:42
  all in their houses, OK? I mean, we're fighting in the
• 57:46
  supermarkets over toilet roll, Does that not count that?
• 57:49
  That's pretty interesting to me. East Coast Go Fast Video 2015
• 57:54
  This surprised me. I had not heard of anything in
• 57:57
  more recent times. This is crazy.
• 57:59
  When news leaked in 2017 about the Advanced Aviation Threat
• 58:03
  Identification Program, a video emerged that revealed an
• 58:07
  encounter between an FA18 Super Hornet and an unidentified
• 58:13
  aerial phenomena. There's that word UAP.
• 58:17
  Seen along the East Coast on a Raytheon Advanced Targeting
• 58:21
  forward-looking Infrared at Flare Pod, the craft was similar
• 58:25
  to that spotting off San Diego in 2004.
• 58:29
  A fast moving white Oval about 45 feet long without wings or
• 58:33
  exhaust plume than what the hell exhaust plume is?
• 58:37
  That's like the heat signature I was referring to before.
• 58:40
  OK. The pilots tracked the object at
• 58:43
  about 25,000 feet above the Atlantic Ocean as it flew away
• 58:47
  and some simultaneously rotated on its axis.
• 58:51
  No explanation ever emerged. Surprise, surprise, have you
• 58:58
  seen this video before? No, I have not.
• 59:01
  Super interesting, man. Very, very weird.
• 59:04
  What do you make of that? And and it's funny too, because
• 59:07
  what's very telling is the people who are like, you can
• 59:10
  hear them speaking in the audio of the video and they're like
• 59:14
  freaking out, Like what the hell is this thing?
• 59:17
  It's moving. Then they're like they are on
• 59:20
  the edge of their seats because it's just like still out at one
• 59:22
  point and then it just rotates. It's it's the weirdest thing,
• 59:28
  very strange. Not to mention before it stops
• 59:30
  and rotates. I believe they had it on radar,
• 59:32
  just flying, moving so quick above the ocean.
• 59:37
  What you said before about how these things defy our
• 59:41
  understanding of physics and and motion and stuff, I think that's
• 59:45
  spot on because in a lot of these instances and and I'll
• 59:48
  we'll delve into some of them, well, we're going to delve into
• 59:51
  a lot of them. They seem to have this ability
• 59:54
  to manipulate the particular section that they're in in the
• 1:00:00
  sky. You know, always like for
• 1:00:03
  example, like planes, stuff like that.
• 1:00:05
  It kind of demonstrates how primitive our technology is
• 1:00:08
  really at this point because they have to be continuously
• 1:00:10
  moving. You know, when a plane takes
• 1:00:12
  off, it needs that momentum and that's why it has to have the
• 1:00:15
  runway to like, you know, bolster it.
• 1:00:17
  And then it's a combination of all those forces that work to
• 1:00:19
  push it off the ground. But then essentially you're
• 1:00:22
  just, it's like in Toy Story, you know, you're not flying.
• 1:00:25
  You're falling with style in a sense and and absolutely, yeah,
• 1:00:29
  The Jets are like keeping you going, right.
• 1:00:31
  But these uaps, unidentified flying objects, are able to stop
• 1:00:38
  midpoint in the sky, assume different shapes, move like
• 1:00:42
  fluctuate like I can, I can picture it in my head.
• 1:00:45
  I've seen it in movies and shit, right.
• 1:00:47
  But like that's crazy to see that in real life.
• 1:00:51
  You know, again, more questions. Are there any patterns or common
• 1:00:59
  characteristics in UFO sightings?
• 1:01:02
  Simple answer to that question is yes.
• 1:01:05
  And this is where we're getting into the real bulk of things
• 1:01:08
  now. So I was surprised to find this
• 1:01:13
  because I thought that you, you know, UFO sightings were just
• 1:01:16
  kind of pretty much just only happening in the US, maybe a few
• 1:01:22
  here and there outside of the US.
• 1:01:24
  But my my mind was I wrong. UKUFO sightings.
• 1:01:29
  Between 1997 to 2009, the UK Ministry of Defence released an
• 1:01:35
  annual report detailing UFO sightings in the UK.
• 1:01:39
  It was actually a government program that was put out.
• 1:01:42
  So this would have been the Labour government of that
• 1:01:44
  particular era. And so they, and this is the
• 1:01:47
  interesting thing as well, they got in in the late 90s and then
• 1:01:50
  that's roughly when they left government.
• 1:01:52
  So that throughout that entire administration they decided that
• 1:01:55
  they wanted to do that. And then it was on 1st of
• 1:01:58
  December 2009, the department's policy on UFOs changed beyond
• 1:02:02
  this point. UFO citing reports are no longer
• 1:02:06
  recorded or investigated by the Ministry of Defence, which blows
• 1:02:09
  my mind that they just don't investigate it.
• 1:02:12
  What? And also I couldn't find any
• 1:02:15
  information about this. I looked online, it's on the
• 1:02:17
  government website gov.uk. It's still there.
• 1:02:21
  Who knows how long it will still be there for now, but still
• 1:02:24
  there. Sightings came from members of
• 1:02:26
  the public, ex pilots, ex manufacturing engineers, police
• 1:02:31
  sergeants and air traffic control employees.
• 1:02:33
  I tried to give like a summary of of a lot of this.
• 1:02:36
  No sound appears to be a common theme.
• 1:02:38
  Same with balls of fire or circular ball shapes.
• 1:02:42
  Obviously we discussed about triangle shapes, stuff like
• 1:02:44
  that. The lights being orange appears
• 1:02:48
  to be a theme. And yeah, again with the shapes,
• 1:02:51
  certain shapes such as diamonds, triangles, ovals and spheres
• 1:02:55
  seem to be the most common in terms of shape shifting, which
• 1:02:58
  also seems to occur frequently too.
• 1:03:01
  Now I've got absolutely tons of these.
• 1:03:04
  I'm just going to bolster through them and anything that
• 1:03:07
  seems interesting we can we can touch on.
• 1:03:11
  There will be some funny ones later as well.
• 1:03:12
  I've tried to keep this light hearted.
• 1:03:14
  It's not all just boring, boring, boring.
• 1:03:15
  But I think this is interesting because again, I went through
• 1:03:20
  guys probably like a hundred a piece, maybe more.
• 1:03:25
  And I took out what I thought was interesting.
• 1:03:28
  So I don't know, Let's see if it's interesting.
• 1:03:31
  A diamond shaped red. Oh, sorry.
• 1:03:33
  Before I continue, this is really important.
• 1:03:36
  So anyone could call in and report these, right?
• 1:03:42
  And it was someone's job or a team of people's job to sit down
• 1:03:46
  and record all of this information.
• 1:03:49
  Right on. And and it's like laid out in
• 1:03:51
  these spreadsheets, right? And it's both hilarious because
• 1:03:54
  some of the stuff they had to sit down and listen to and be
• 1:03:56
  like, OK and still write it down, right?
• 1:04:00
  It's it's pretty funny, but also must have been pretty scary
• 1:04:03
  sometimes to hear these accounts and not really know what to do
• 1:04:06
  other than just write it down, make a note of it right.
• 1:04:10
  But it's pretty crazy that you could do that.
• 1:04:11
  You could call into a department in the government and tell them
• 1:04:14
  that you just saw like a UFO. Pretty crazy.
• 1:04:18
  A diamond shaped red light came towards him from the sea.
• 1:04:23
  Rear end of the diamond was a blue light.
• 1:04:25
  It was incredibly hot as it passed overhead.
• 1:04:28
  No sound over my house. It was massive.
• 1:04:32
  Unbelievable. The noise was incredible.
• 1:04:35
  I thought we were under nuclear attack and I said maybe they
• 1:04:39
  lived near Heathrow airport. More or more moving.
• 1:04:45
  Bright solid orange lights followed by a further 8
• 1:04:48
  identical objects rose vertically over the side on the
• 1:04:53
  valley, Made no sound. Again, I mentioned earlier about
• 1:04:57
  the sound element. So many of these accounts will
• 1:05:01
  say something like no sound or very little sound.
• 1:05:04
  It's it's fascinating like because obviously our technology
• 1:05:11
  always makes a sound and that's obviously because of what's
• 1:05:13
  being used, fossil fuels, etcetera, like big jets,
• 1:05:17
  etcetera. Like it's not really possible
• 1:05:18
  for us to keep it quiet really, unless you put something in
• 1:05:23
  place that actually like DF like doesn't doesn't really doesn't
• 1:05:26
  really like destroy the sound, but rather like muffles the
• 1:05:29
  sound, so to speak here. If it is aliens, they've got the
• 1:05:33
  technology to keep it silent. And also another thing is that
• 1:05:36
  this idea of like, it's not just solid shapes, sometimes the
• 1:05:41
  shapes dissipate and you've got like maybe several different
• 1:05:44
  shapes that form like a triangular or diamond shape, but
• 1:05:49
  they're not actually attached together.
• 1:05:52
  So maybe they also have the technology to like rip apart a
• 1:05:55
  ship and then reassemble again. Something to think about.
• 1:06:01
  AV shaped formation similar to how birds fly of seven lights.
• 1:06:05
  Literally saying what I just said, moved rapidly across the
• 1:06:08
  sky, rotated slightly, then the lights split up and vanished.
• 1:06:13
  Lights were the size and brightness of stars, no noise,
• 1:06:17
  and no visible trails in the sky.
• 1:06:19
  I think this person's obviously thinking of planes and how they
• 1:06:21
  live, like some sort of record of how they were in the sky,
• 1:06:26
  right? Whereas seemingly UFOs never do.
• 1:06:31
  Saw a very large bright orange ball of fire travelling over
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  woodland, There was no sound in size, would have been 20 to 30
• 1:06:40
  times bigger than a jumbo jet. Let's sit big about that for a
• 1:06:44
  second, like I think I will. I will say though playing
• 1:06:46
  devil's advocate, some, I think some of these occasionally are
• 1:06:54
  overemphasized. Maybe.
• 1:06:56
  Maybe people were like, you know, them got their reading
• 1:06:59
  glasses on or something like that.
• 1:07:00
  I mean, 'cause if it was 20 to 30 site times bigger than the
• 1:07:03
  jumbo jet, think about how huge that would be in the sky for a
• 1:07:06
  second. That's that's.
• 1:07:09
  Actually, though you know some there, there's a lot of
• 1:07:13
  reporting of like warehouse sized craft, and I mean like
• 1:07:18
  craft that are miles long. Actually.
• 1:07:23
  Wow, I don't know what to say to that.
• 1:07:26
  So I'm going to move on. A kaleidoscope effect of lights
• 1:07:29
  above the building. That was what I mentioned
• 1:07:32
  earlier, that that's kind of a crazy, I mean that could that
• 1:07:36
  could be a lot of things, but I think that might be someone
• 1:07:39
  messing with someone to be honest.
• 1:07:42
  A single object full of lights approximately the same size as
• 1:07:45
  10 planes. The object made no noise.
• 1:07:49
  Lights were seen to dim and change colour with some turning
• 1:07:53
  off. Object was described as a
• 1:07:55
  straight line of lights with AU shape attached underneath.
• 1:08:00
  Really bright light jellyfish shaped object.
• 1:08:03
  I saw this a lot, jellyfish shaped object.
• 1:08:05
  This goes back to the very beginning of our show today.
• 1:08:09
  That was essentially what you see in the Madonna painting is
• 1:08:12
  like a jellyfish. It's like a a flying saucer with
• 1:08:15
  like jellyfish arms on the side. It's really odd.
• 1:08:19
  Lights in the sky, no object, orbs with trails following,
• 1:08:23
  moving in a circular direction, 4 orbs, 2 following the other
• 1:08:28
  two reaching a point and then repeat in the same sequence.
• 1:08:32
  So sort of building what we're saying before about how they're
• 1:08:38
  able to apparently move into different directions, dissipate,
• 1:08:41
  etcetera. Similarly, they're able to
• 1:08:43
  follow a sequence as well, much like what birds do in the sky
• 1:08:46
  when they're, you know, assuming formation, you know, they they
• 1:08:49
  fly in different patterns according to like the wind or
• 1:08:52
  whatever they need to do. And a lot of time when they form
• 1:08:56
  like in formation, it's it's for a particular like security block
• 1:08:59
  to protect each other and stuff. But that's how they communicate
• 1:09:03
  with each other. And maybe these UFOs are the
• 1:09:06
  same, like a flying bonfire or similar to a plane on fire, too
• 1:09:12
  dark for a balloon observed 3 objects in the sky for about 10
• 1:09:17
  minutes, appeared stationary and then disappeared behind clouds
• 1:09:22
  changed shape from cigar to round.
• 1:09:25
  You said this earlier about the cigar shape were red or white in
• 1:09:28
  colour, so two UFOs looked like balls of fire as they approached
• 1:09:33
  RAF Norfolk. The the fireball went out.
• 1:09:36
  However the craft was still visible and was in the shape of
• 1:09:40
  a jellyfish Dome. And that's pretty fascinating. 3
• 1:09:44
  blazing golden orbs in a diagonal line in the sky, no
• 1:09:48
  sound, remain static approximately one minute before
• 1:09:51
  slowly moving together to form a shape like an Orion's belt and
• 1:09:56
  then into a small triangle. Two lights further out, faded
• 1:10:00
  and disappeared than the third two.
• 1:10:02
  This is interesting because maybe they actually follow
• 1:10:07
  shapes like the stars. Maybe there there's a connection
• 1:10:10
  there, Perhaps I don't, I don't know.
• 1:10:12
  But that would explain a lot. White fixed wing object flying
• 1:10:17
  over a field. It was squared off with
• 1:10:20
  something behind it. No cockpit, silent, not a
• 1:10:23
  glider. And we obviously it goes back to
• 1:10:25
  what we were saying before about how they often don't have the
• 1:10:27
  sort of aspects of a plane or something like that that you
• 1:10:31
  would expect to see. It's just like seemingly just an
• 1:10:33
  object and that's it. There's nothing within, or at
• 1:10:37
  least what we can see, a black sphere bobbing about half a mile
• 1:10:42
  away covered with a phosphorus chemical cloud.
• 1:10:46
  It goes light grey flash of lightning then reappears.
• 1:10:50
  Some of the clouds light up, and this person apparently saw
• 1:10:53
  various sightings over the course of the time between 8:00
• 1:10:57
  PM at night to right through to the next day at 12:15.
• 1:11:01
  That's midday as well. It's pretty crazy.
• 1:11:03
  Normally you see them at night or something like that, but 30
• 1:11:06
  orange globes in four waves, 30 but orange globes travelling at
• 1:11:14
  a constant speed may have been lanterns of some kind, but they
• 1:11:17
  would have been one to two meters in diameter.
• 1:11:19
  Yeah, I mean if it was Chinese lanterns it would be tiny, but
• 1:11:24
  there'd be a lot of them. So given that, but yeah, maybe
• 1:11:27
  this was something else. Brilliant and dazzling white
• 1:11:31
  horizontal ring of light. It appeared to be perfectly
• 1:11:34
  still in the sky above the houses was totally silent.
• 1:11:38
  Object was hovering over the Bellevue Crescent area emitting
• 1:11:43
  a large bright orange light, much larger than normal lights
• 1:11:47
  on a plane slash helicopter travelling in an arc with no
• 1:11:51
  sound. It's the first time I've I've
• 1:11:52
  seen or heard of anything like this.
• 1:11:54
  After 10 minutes the light became dimmer and appeared to
• 1:11:57
  gain height. Light now the size of a normal
• 1:12:01
  aircraft light. And then disappeared.
• 1:12:06
  A pair of lanterns directly overhead.
• 1:12:08
  Slightly faster than a plane. Faster than a satellite.
• 1:12:11
  Slower than a meteor sized. It reads like spider Man.
• 1:12:15
  Slightly faster than a plane. Faster than a satellite.
• 1:12:17
  Slower than a meteor. Bright red orange ball.
• 1:12:23
  No sound moved faster than an aircraft.
• 1:12:26
  Could not find a camera in time to take photos.
• 1:12:28
  What are you playing now? Six balloons of fire?
• 1:12:31
  Overused water. These UFOs moved at different
• 1:12:34
  speeds to each other and in different directions before
• 1:12:36
  moving out. Large Oval craft seen very low.
• 1:12:40
  It could not make out any distinguishing features.
• 1:12:43
  Combination of red, orange and green lights And it goes on with
• 1:12:49
  these. There was one.
• 1:12:52
  There's a few I want to share from here before we go into the
• 1:12:54
  funnier ones. A very bright white like a star.
• 1:12:58
  It moved South, then double backed on itself and was joined
• 1:13:01
  by another light. The lights danced around each
• 1:13:04
  other, then split and moved off in different directions.
• 1:13:07
  The light suddenly disappeared. Now I tried to find patterns
• 1:13:12
  within all of these and again there was like pages, pages,
• 1:13:15
  pages, pages, right? But between these particular 2
• 1:13:17
  sightings, this one, and then the round white object, Not like
• 1:13:24
  a ball, very bright, not casting a beam of light rising
• 1:13:27
  vertically. The higher it went, the smaller
• 1:13:29
  it became. Started the size of a pound coin
• 1:13:33
  and ended up as a pinhead that that would be tiny.
• 1:13:36
  But anyway, these apparently occurred within an hour of each
• 1:13:41
  other, from different people, presumably in different
• 1:13:44
  locations, but like that's that's mad.
• 1:13:46
  Like within same day, same like within an hour, crazy having a
• 1:13:51
  BBQ with some friends when they saw an orange fireball about to
• 1:13:54
  crash two gardens away. But on checking it was now high
• 1:13:58
  in the sky about half a mile away, 3 to 5 minutes later
• 1:14:03
  another object appeared and a third spherical object with a
• 1:14:07
  leg protruding. And yeah, basically I just
• 1:14:11
  wanted to kind of give you an an idea of all these different
• 1:14:14
  stories. Some of them blew my absolute
• 1:14:17
  mind, like one of them UFO over the Witnesses house.
• 1:14:20
  It was at 30,000 feet and he'd apparently seen it before. 2
• 1:14:25
  yellow objects like giant sparklers.
• 1:14:30
  Lights rising from the ground into the sky, much like debris
• 1:14:33
  from a fire. However, lights were too intense
• 1:14:35
  to be a fire. Crazy just just like that.
• 1:14:39
  And there's this endless accounts like this.
• 1:14:43
  This one is insane. A big alien craft landed on the
• 1:14:46
  top of the Witnesses house. The craft then flew off over
• 1:14:50
  Bristol. Just and yeah, like, if you want
• 1:14:54
  to check all of these out guys, I tried to pull some of the
• 1:14:56
  very, very best ones and they go on forever and ever and ever and
• 1:15:00
  ever. But.
• 1:15:01
  And but before we get to the funny ones, can I can I share
• 1:15:04
  one as well? That seemed that in my opinion,
• 1:15:06
  the more interesting, the most interesting one I've ever heard.
• 1:15:10
  So there's this guy and this I relate to.
• 1:15:13
  On an immense level, because so he has Crohn's disease.
• 1:15:16
  I also have Crohn's disease. And it's debilitating.
• 1:15:19
  Yeah, it's it's very, very bad if you're not able to have it
• 1:15:23
  under control. Luckily, medically, I'm able to
• 1:15:26
  have mine under control and I do pretty well.
• 1:15:27
  But this particular guy was not under control.
• 1:15:31
  He was taking all kinds of medications.
• 1:15:33
  They were not working. He was just in immense pain all
• 1:15:37
  the time. So at one point in time he was
• 1:15:39
  at like a family get together thing.
• 1:15:42
  I think it was it was at his home.
• 1:15:44
  So he is in so much pain during this little get together BBQ
• 1:15:49
  type of thing that he just has to kind of go off in like away
• 1:15:53
  from the family just to like retch in pain.
• 1:15:57
  So I mean with Crohn's disease and with immense chronic pain
• 1:16:02
  comes a feeling of desperation. Quite often so.
• 1:16:05
  He's a religious guy and has just this immense feeling of
• 1:16:09
  desperation. Gets on his knees and it's just
• 1:16:11
  like crying and praying to the sky.
• 1:16:14
  Like to God, like please, like do something.
• 1:16:17
  Help me here. Like I I I can't live like this,
• 1:16:20
  Opens his eyes and sees what looks like the sun in front of
• 1:16:24
  him. And what really reminded me of
• 1:16:26
  this is a lot of these orange orbs that you're Speaking of.
• 1:16:29
  So he looks up and he sees what he thinks is the sun.
• 1:16:32
  And then right next to it, he realizes there's another sun and
• 1:16:36
  he's like this. OK, these aren't Suns.
• 1:16:38
  These are just these big giant bright orange orbs.
• 1:16:42
  Then he has what a lot of people experience as lost time when
• 1:16:47
  they have these, these types of sightings.
• 1:16:49
  And all of a sudden his Crohn's gone, completely gone.
• 1:16:55
  Never took another medication ever since that day.
• 1:17:00
  Just to make this has been no, nothing.
• 1:17:05
  And that's the thing about Crohn's, is that you can't cure
• 1:17:09
  Crohn's. It is incurable.
• 1:17:11
  Yep, completely gone. So this guy has had NASA come to
• 1:17:17
  his house. The CIA.
• 1:17:19
  All types of researchers. He even brings people to his
• 1:17:23
  house and shows them. He has like a communication.
• 1:17:26
  He can summon these orbs and he shows people.
• 1:17:29
  You can look it up. His name is Chris Bledsoe.
• 1:17:32
  Just the most amazing UFO story I've ever heard.
• 1:17:36
  He's writing a book soon. I think they're doing a
• 1:17:37
  documentary potentially, but just amazing stuff.
• 1:17:41
  Healing orbs? Almost.
• 1:17:44
  Yeah, intriguing. Wild, right?
• 1:17:49
  You ready to laugh? Let's do it.
• 1:17:51
  This is like, honestly, some of the craziest stuff I've ever
• 1:17:55
  read. I love the UK so much.
• 1:17:58
  Thank you UK, for being as beautiful and as silly as you
• 1:18:02
  can be. So here we are, some funny UFO
• 1:18:04
  sightings in the UK between 1997 to 2008.
• 1:18:08
  Here was the best ones I could find.
• 1:18:11
  Now again, you're calling into a line, OK?
• 1:18:15
  And you're telling them that you've seen something in the
• 1:18:17
  sky. Now, some of these are just
• 1:18:21
  funny descriptions, right? Some of them, this is all the
• 1:18:24
  information they gave, OK? So just keep that in mind.
• 1:18:30
  Something very strange. That's it.
• 1:18:34
  Just that. Fair enough.
• 1:18:36
  A sighting of something. No more information given.
• 1:18:41
  And they'll put the guy puts that or whoever was in charge of
• 1:18:43
  this always would write that. No, I would do information given
• 1:18:46
  just this. Something definitely odd.
• 1:18:51
  There was a sighting of lights in the sky, a formation of 18
• 1:18:59
  lights. They appeared like a flock of
• 1:19:01
  helicopters with lights on. They gave off no sound but there
• 1:19:04
  was a slight rattle 6 orb shaped objects that were red and orange
• 1:19:09
  in colour. They initially formed AV shape.
• 1:19:11
  They were floating around and then the central one zoomed off
• 1:19:14
  like the Captain Kirk Enterprise 100 possible UFOs.
• 1:19:20
  In the sky an object was seen, the witness said The object was
• 1:19:25
  seen over Christmas very Christmassy.
• 1:19:29
  The witness saw spaceships and then said that one of them
• 1:19:32
  adopted his dog, car and tent when he and his some of his
• 1:19:37
  friends went out camping, camping.
• 1:19:39
  Sorry. The object was very bright like
• 1:19:42
  the sun. It looked like the size of a
• 1:19:44
  space hopper had flames coming off of it so it could have been
• 1:19:47
  a meteorite. The triangle shaped object
• 1:19:52
  looked like the Mitsubishi car sign.
• 1:19:54
  Middle triangle was brighter than the other two and I just
• 1:19:57
  put like my notes. Space marketing.
• 1:20:02
  The object looked like it was three times bigger than the size
• 1:20:04
  of a jumble jet, like a gigantic flying piece of St.
• 1:20:11
  What? That's what it says.
• 1:20:13
  Big bright sphere look like Saturn Mention that planets are
• 1:20:18
  in danger from different things going on in our solar system.
• 1:20:21
  Oh yeah, some of these are mental by the way.
• 1:20:22
  Like just not necessarily funny, just crazy objects.
• 1:20:26
  Lucifer like things that are seen every day.
• 1:20:29
  They hold people in their homes and are a nuisance in a lorry.
• 1:20:34
  The witness saw a blue slash white flash from within the
• 1:20:37
  woods. The sky took on a red glow had
• 1:20:41
  an object fallen from the sky. Large crystal ball object the
• 1:20:46
  size of a light bulb. I mean this, this is what got me
• 1:20:49
  large crystal ball object the size of a light.
• 1:20:52
  But like that's two different things though.
• 1:20:55
  Yellowy and white in colour travelling in a diagonal
• 1:20:58
  direction. One small kite sized leaf shaped
• 1:21:02
  object was bright red in colour. Moved very fast one.
• 1:21:07
  Larger than a Hercules elongated object.
• 1:21:11
  Red slash green long lights, white lights at the back in
• 1:21:15
  squares very bright. One ball of light the size of a
• 1:21:20
  5 pence piece at arm's length. Like I don't know what the fuck
• 1:21:24
  this person was talking about. A 5 pence piece is tiny.
• 1:21:27
  It's like that small at arm's length.
• 1:21:29
  Like what does what does he mean?
• 1:21:31
  Like I don't understand. What does he mean?
• 1:21:35
  Plus there were two smaller faint objects in the trail too.
• 1:21:41
  But I get you trying to like give someone an idea of it that
• 1:21:44
  that paints a very strange picture in one's mind.
• 1:21:48
  One object with tentacles 300, approximately 1 airship shaped
• 1:21:56
  object. It was black.
• 1:21:57
  It was drifting smoothly. One disc slave slash Jaffa cake
• 1:22:03
  shaped shaped object. Do you have Jaffa Cakes in the
• 1:22:05
  US? Not that I know of.
• 1:22:07
  I've never heard of that. Before it's like a small cake
• 1:22:13
  with like Jelly in it. I guess you definitely have
• 1:22:16
  something similar. I've had stuff over there that
• 1:22:18
  tastes somewhat similar with silver in color.
• 1:22:21
  With it's just like a different name.
• 1:22:22
  Yeah, yeah, cool. Yeah.
• 1:22:25
  Jaffa tree or something. A strange sighting.
• 1:22:30
  A sighting look like a Chinese Lantern.
• 1:22:32
  Why would you call in to report that?
• 1:22:35
  I don't understand. Two bright lights heading
• 1:22:38
  towards the city like a white octopus shaped kite.
• 1:22:41
  It was like they were being propelled but travelling on
• 1:22:44
  their own. This is this is classic British
• 1:22:48
  a UFO. It was a glowing pool ball of
• 1:22:51
  something or other. Definitely not a plane object.
• 1:22:55
  The object came into trajectory into back garden.
• 1:22:59
  It was the upper part of an egg, glowing bright orange like hot
• 1:23:02
  steel on bottom. It had something like a root
• 1:23:05
  structure. It looked like it was having
• 1:23:07
  some trouble, but righted itself and gently flew off.
• 1:23:11
  It's like, oh this is this is brilliant dog wanted to go out,
• 1:23:15
  went out and I saw a UFO. Oh my God.
• 1:23:20
  Yeah. Report received from Psychic
• 1:23:22
  control centre. No details given.
• 1:23:27
  Large orange glow in the sky, moving slowly, then disappeared.
• 1:23:31
  Reappeared after 5 minutes. Knows a bit about astronomy.
• 1:23:34
  This this. This person's like a UFO.
• 1:23:40
  That's it. 8 alien aircraft seen just above helicopter height,
• 1:23:44
  travelling southwest to north. Oh sorry, yes, southwest to
• 1:23:48
  northeast. There was a humming sound.
• 1:23:51
  They look like they were eyeing the place up.
• 1:23:52
  This is quite a British saying. When you say eyeing the place
• 1:23:55
  up, it's like casing the joint. Same thing like eyeing it up.
• 1:24:00
  A bright white fireball size of a football flew into the kitchen
• 1:24:06
  and landed in a plastic carrier bag on the table.
• 1:24:10
  Immediately disappeared. That seemed to cause almost
• 1:24:13
  blinding white sheet of lightning.
• 1:24:16
  Went to get the cat off the wall.
• 1:24:18
  Saw UFO higher than eye level. Bright orange object, not plane
• 1:24:23
  shaped, no engine noise. And this final one we keep
• 1:24:28
  getting flown over by aliens galore.
• 1:24:31
  They are dropping germs and we keep getting colds.
• 1:24:34
  Please send the RAF or United States Air Force to stop them.
• 1:24:42
  Yeah, I don't know, just some real crazy crazy stuff.
• 1:24:47
  Any thoughts before we continue? Just just.
• 1:24:50
  Taking all that in such a weird variety.
• 1:24:54
  Oh, it's so funny. I love the I love that last one.
• 1:24:57
  Like please send help, you know great.
• 1:25:01
  I also asked Reddit. It's always fun when you ask
• 1:25:04
  Reddit, have you ever seen a UFO?
• 1:25:06
  If so, what happened? And these were the responses.
• 1:25:10
  Yeah, nothing. Yes was uncomfortably probed.
• 1:25:15
  They understood I was hungry, so we swung by a pastor and picked
• 1:25:18
  up a cow for dinner. Later purposely made a low pass
• 1:25:23
  some drunk guys outside a trailer in the desert for the
• 1:25:26
  lulls. Totally legit in movies.
• 1:25:31
  Only one time I thought I did. Turned out to be a self cell
• 1:25:36
  tower of a light on it. You just nobody's just pissed
• 1:25:38
  off his face at this point. What if they have devices with
• 1:25:43
  which they can erase our memory in case we for example, saw
• 1:25:46
  them? So that's why we don't remember
• 1:25:47
  seeing them Man in Black. The man in black here on the
• 1:25:51
  plot, It's literally that. Yeah, sure, I've seen things in
• 1:25:54
  the sky that I couldn't identify.
• 1:25:56
  It was probably a cloud or a plane.
• 1:25:58
  Yes, one time. Oh, I've just repeated that.
• 1:26:02
  And they wear black suits with sunglasses.
• 1:26:04
  It was probably some swamp gas reflecting off Venus.
• 1:26:08
  What? You said swamp gas, man?
• 1:26:12
  Right, I got some UFO experiences from from Reddit
• 1:26:15
  which will warn this show on. I've not read these.
• 1:26:21
  I'm interested to see where they'll go.
• 1:26:23
  So here we go. Not mine, but my dad.
• 1:26:26
  My mother told me about it once, laughing at him, so I asked him
• 1:26:29
  if it's true. My father was not the best
• 1:26:32
  behaved person when he was young.
• 1:26:33
  He was constantly running away from classes with his friends
• 1:26:36
  and sneaking out of the house. One day, in the middle of the
• 1:26:39
  night, he left the house and went to the forest to drink
• 1:26:42
  alcohol with his friends. They didn't have much time to
• 1:26:46
  drink. They drank maybe 1 beer.
• 1:26:49
  Then his friend noticed something between the trees.
• 1:26:51
  My father laughed at him, but noticed that his friend was
• 1:26:54
  honestly terrified. He shined his flashlight at the
• 1:26:58
  at these trees and noticed something very large.
• 1:27:01
  Apparently it was about four meters high.
• 1:27:03
  At first it sounded like a literal description of Slender
• 1:27:06
  Man. Remember that?
• 1:27:08
  And I thought he was joking with this story, but he was talking
• 1:27:12
  about it with complete seriousness.
• 1:27:14
  They both started running away as fast as they could.
• 1:27:17
  And then he couldn't sleep for a few days.
• 1:27:19
  Recently I watched the Polish podcast with the Ufologist.
• 1:27:23
  I don't know if it's the correct title, but he started talking
• 1:27:26
  about UFOs and how they can have different shapes and the largest
• 1:27:30
  alien can be up to 4 meters tall.
• 1:27:32
  So a few years after hearing this story, I'm starting to
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  believe it again. Natural skeptic here.
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  A handful of times I've seen something in the sky that I
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  didn't that didn't match with the appearance, sound profile or
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  performance envelope. I've never heard this expression
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  before of any aircraft I ever heard of.
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  Last time when was that? I can't even read this.
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  Last time was when my daughter and her BFF were 10 or so.
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  We were watching for meteors. I think BFF saw something in the
• 1:28:06
  sky and asked is that a UFO? I explained that it was an
• 1:28:10
  airliner headed for the local airport, the landing and running
• 1:28:14
  lights, etcetera. Then she said what about that?
• 1:28:18
  There was a ball of light, actually slightly Oval, moving
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  silently across the sky. Based on where I think it was,
• 1:28:26
  and comparing its movement to C130's from the local air guard
• 1:28:30
  base, it was moving somewhere around 300 mph.
• 1:28:35
  Way too fast for a civilian like aircraft like a Cessna 172 or
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  Piper Cherokee. You're going to know this better
• 1:28:42
  than I do. While I watched, it instantly
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  went from one finger above the visible horizon to four fingers
• 1:28:49
  above the visible horizon. What the fuck?
• 1:28:52
  It was passing beyond objects 200 to 300 yards away, so wasn't
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  a small object up close. It continued on West until it
• 1:29:01
  disappeared behind a hill. What it was, I have zero clue.
• 1:29:05
  No human aircraft I know of could have flown silently like
• 1:29:11
  that, or made that manoeuvre. And the final story the absolute
• 1:29:16
  best save for last. Saw a weird floating red disc
• 1:29:20
  spinning through the air coming towards me in the park.
• 1:29:23
  Couldn't figure out what it was, but then it hit me.
• 1:29:29
  Hey, there it is. So there it is.
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  UFO sightings as we draw this to a close.
• 1:29:38
  Josh, what are your kind of final thoughts after all of
• 1:29:41
  that? We've we've we've deep dived.
• 1:29:43
  We've kind of gone every which way.
• 1:29:45
  We've done three shows together, UFOs, aliens, and UFO sightings.
• 1:29:51
  How do you feel about it all? Well, I do see a fourth in our
• 1:29:57
  future because there is just so much to talk about here and
• 1:30:02
  there is a lot of news that continues to come up, you know,
• 1:30:05
  because this is becoming a big thing in our government.
• 1:30:08
  A lot of the people who are having the experiences like the
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  ones that we went over today are, you know, sharing them, you
• 1:30:16
  know, all the time. And some of them government
• 1:30:19
  officials, some of them people who are in the military who are
• 1:30:21
  going through, as I said before, this whistleblower legislation
• 1:30:25
  that protects them. So I'm really hoping that we
• 1:30:28
  hear some more information soon. But man, these are just so
• 1:30:31
  interesting. The the, the sightings, the
• 1:30:35
  abductions to the experiences people have.
• 1:30:38
  The, as I think you, you kind of touched on with a few of these
• 1:30:41
  experiences that a lot of them were mental.
• 1:30:44
  Like there's this consciousness sharing, communication aspect to
• 1:30:48
  it. It's just it's so interesting to
• 1:30:50
  me, you know, and I like to think of my my favorite aspect
• 1:30:54
  of this is the potential of them being like extra dimensional.
• 1:30:57
  You know, inhabiting A dimension that is above ours that we just
• 1:31:01
  can't even conceive. And you know the just the the
• 1:31:05
  potential questions that the disclosure movement can can put
• 1:31:11
  upon us is just paradigm shifting man.
• 1:31:13
  And people don't care a lot. You know that there's a lot of
• 1:31:18
  stuff in the media and people just seem to sort of like poo
• 1:31:21
  poo it. Like whatever, you know, when
• 1:31:23
  there's real information, let me know.
• 1:31:25
  But I feel like when the rubber is going to really meet the road
• 1:31:29
  is when some of the technology that stems from whatever we're
• 1:31:34
  learning from these crafts or whatever it is that we're
• 1:31:37
  observing starts to be implemented into our daily
• 1:31:40
  lives. And when that happens, we're
• 1:31:42
  going to see a massive shift, I think.
• 1:31:45
  Yeah. For sure, like human life is
• 1:31:47
  going to evolve in a big way. I mean, it already has in the
• 1:31:50
  last 20 years even. But yeah, I feel like maybe
• 1:31:55
  we're on the cusp of something. Maybe it's coming, maybe even
• 1:32:01
  the authorities are trying to kind of test the waters with
• 1:32:04
  these, I don't know, either fake sightings or maybe real
• 1:32:10
  sightings or whatever, you know, the the IT doesn't seem very
• 1:32:14
  clear. What they're trying to do right
• 1:32:16
  now, but I feel like maybe they're easing us into it so
• 1:32:19
  that when it really is revealed, maybe it's not so much of A
• 1:32:24
  shock for everybody. I don't know.
• 1:32:28
  I suppose tying this all together.
• 1:32:30
  Are aliens real? I think so.
• 1:32:32
  I think there's a lot of evidence out there to support
• 1:32:34
  it. I don't know that it's all true,
• 1:32:38
  but you know, it's one thing if you hear a handful of stories
• 1:32:42
  and they all have a similar. Pattern and they're all made-up,
• 1:32:46
  you know, or they sound like they're made-up.
• 1:32:48
  You can normally tell. But when you've got literally
• 1:32:50
  hundreds of thousands from literally all different
• 1:32:54
  backgrounds, creeds and colours, like people from all around the
• 1:32:57
  world, reporting this stuff tends to lend a bit credence to
• 1:33:01
  it makes you think. Makes you wonder.
• 1:33:05
  And I will continue to wonder. And I would love to do a fourth
• 1:33:07
  show with you, Mr. Leonard. Do you have any ideas?
• 1:33:11
  If the wonderful listeners of the show have any ideas, send
• 1:33:14
  your questions in, let us know. And do you know what it's not
• 1:33:16
  just with UFOs and Aliens as you know, as with all my wonderful
• 1:33:22
  guests and Josh especially like Open Platform.
• 1:33:25
  You're always welcome here, buddy.
• 1:33:26
  If you've ever got something you want to plug or or discuss with
• 1:33:30
  me or any topics you far away and anybody out there listening
• 1:33:34
  to the show if if you're interested in being on the show.
• 1:33:38
  Talking about something that you got a lot of knowledge on or
• 1:33:40
  you're passionate about or whatever.
• 1:33:42
  Shout me out because we're going through a bit of a shift with
• 1:33:45
  this podcast now where I am still doing my interviews and
• 1:33:48
  discussions and stuff, but I'm trying to kind of branch out of
• 1:33:51
  that and really push forward with these topics.
• 1:33:54
  I feel like there might be something there.
• 1:33:56
  I enjoy it a lot. It forces me to do a lot more
• 1:33:58
  research and I feel like it's worth it because you learn
• 1:34:01
  something from it, as much as I love interviewing people and
• 1:34:05
  exploring their lives. I think a little part of me
• 1:34:09
  enjoys slightly more delving into topics because it it kind
• 1:34:12
  of forces you to approach things a little bit differently.
• 1:34:16
  And I like having challenges and mixing it up every once in a
• 1:34:19
  while. So expect to see more of that in
• 1:34:21
  the future, guys. Massive thank you, Josh.
• 1:34:25
  Three shows together. You're a champion.
• 1:34:28
  I owe you so much. Thank you.
• 1:34:31
  Endless, endless gratitude to you, man.
• 1:34:33
  You owe me nothing. This is just so fruitful and
• 1:34:36
  fantastic for me to do. I love talking about these
• 1:34:39
  topics. And as you mentioned earlier,
• 1:34:41
  you know we have like a a relationship.
• 1:34:44
  You know, we, we, we click on on these levels.
• 1:34:46
  And I I really enjoy talking with you, man.
• 1:34:49
  Your openness and just your ability to do research in a way
• 1:34:53
  that is not skeptical, you know? I mean, it's skeptical enough,
• 1:34:57
  but just your openness, you know, to these topics is really,
• 1:35:01
  really, really awesome. So I really appreciate that,
• 1:35:04
  man. Thank you, brother.
• 1:35:06
  Now we'll be doing many more shows in the future.
• 1:35:08
  I just know everybody make sure you go and listen to the Pursuit
• 1:35:13
  of Infinity podcast. I believe that Mister Leonard
• 1:35:17
  has put out episode 60 recently as of recording of this.
• 1:35:22
  Yeah. And I would also just like to
• 1:35:23
  point out that the next episode that I put out is featuring our
• 1:35:28
  good friend Christian Reeve here.
• 1:35:29
  So people look out for that. I didn't even know that was the
• 1:35:34
  We did the show together a while back, but I didn't realize that
• 1:35:36
  was happening. That's awesome.
• 1:35:38
  Nice. Yeah, that'll that'll be out
• 1:35:40
  soon. That right there, that's the
• 1:35:41
  universe coming together in. In a way, that's what that is.
• 1:35:45
  I I don't know. Just on a side note here, more
• 1:35:49
  and more in my life I'm looking at things.
• 1:35:52
  And going and thinking about it and going That happened for a
• 1:35:56
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• 1:35:59
  There's I don't know what it is. Maybe we'll figure it out later.
• 1:36:03
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• 1:36:08
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