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Talks to Luke Molloy about his choice of Let’s Kill Hitler · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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Doctor Who commentary podcast I am here today with the enviably
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fanciable. Luke Malloy, hello.
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I'm Luke. Oh why thank you.
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Hello everybody. Hi Joe.
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How you took that complement with such Grace, Luke so far, we
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have plumbed the depths of sorry.
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The heights of a good man goes to war and we have Never risen
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higher and now we've never gotten lower right heading into
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let's kill it. I think you quite like this one,
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don't you? Mmm.
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No. Oh my God, I really do.
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I really like a good man goes to war.
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Hmm, I think hate this. What?
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I don't hate it. Like I've seen people hating.
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I, it's fine. It's very watchable for me but
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it's not one. I tend to go to.
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Have you ever heard of the Banksy of the Doctor Who
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Universe doc? Oh, ho I've heard of him.
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Who's he again? Are you, is it?
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Writes reviews of big finish's generally.
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Oh yeah, that one. Yeah.
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Article look on his blog before watching this earlier.
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Never guess what? He gave this out in.
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Was it a 1? It was an 8.
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What fizzing? With ideas and effervescent
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charm. Oh my God.
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Yeah Julie, what happened? He was 24 a bad time.
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I think it's fine. That was around the time of his
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divorce. So I mean he Ben, you know,
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desperately Clinging On to anything you might find
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enjoyable. Wow, okay.
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Well then I definitely like this morning.
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That is when I first watched it and I first watched it.
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Oh my god. I've got it in my eye like this
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when I first watched it and I really despise it now.
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Yeah. Well, I thought the opposite
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journey. I hated this on first.
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So I just don't know what he's This and like as a 15 year old
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who's excited and you know, he goes to school, right?
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Yeah. It's going to talk to who's on
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tonight ever. And then this came on, you think
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I'll fuck I've got to look at people in the eye tomorrow.
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It was Doctor Who that when you're young and cringes you
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out, and it's embarrassing. That's that makes you feel
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horrible where it's like, when you're older, you can just take
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you just like that. It's Doctor Who it's all shit.
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But when you're younger is, it's so much harder to take and their
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the thus, our experience is that live with you, or like, you
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mean, yeah. Like a Zinger comes out.
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Everyone Lords like human nature and Rosa and something like
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that. There's nothing finer than that
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moment when you hear from Doctor Who fans going.
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Did you watch that? How amazing was that after
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doomsday? I remember to Buddy girls in my
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office and never seen dr. And their life talking about
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doomsday going. Oh, it was so sad.
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I did you see Tyler leaving Doctor Who last night, I'm
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going? What is going on with the world?
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I'm sorry. Yeah.
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When the world is just captured by Journey's End that like, hey,
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hey, It was the world, it was her interview, wasn't it, always
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everywhere. What could have been Mass
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genocides going on around the world, but the fact that David
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Tennant was leaving doctor, that worked for them for the first
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time in those pictures, doing the rounds of him.
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Coming back for like the hundredth anniversary.
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Yeah, yeah. It's gonna happen.
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Looking a bit like he did in last of the time Lords.
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Yeah. I got to admit, I haven't
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actually return to watch. Let's go hit up for some time
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now for my own sanity, I'm now about to embark on it for the
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second time. In the same day.
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I decided the fact that I can look at your face while I'm
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doing it. Is what's going to get me
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through this? Oh, okay.
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So sorry that you're going to strain it.
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For a good recap now of Series 6
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need. No, it's been three months
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though and it didn't make sense. The first else you're watching
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it. It does annoy me though.
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It's who part is right? When they do the previously on?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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They cherry pick. All the pertinent points that
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you need for the conclusion to make sense.
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So it draws out all the things that are going to be part of the
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climax and you know what to look out for now.
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Yeah, I know you do the little lines and stuff.
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Yeah. Can I ask you right?
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Because what, what was your theories back in the day?
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Nicole, this you new Doctor Who was not going to die and last
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beyond series series 6. Did you have any theories about
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how he was going to survive this season?
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Like, I don't, particularly remember, I think that I was
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already on board, moffatt's way of thinking of just like it
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does, it's probably not going to matter.
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Just enjoy the ride sort of thing because yet, like
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Impossible Astronaut and it was already like Doctor, Who's
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Coming Back for service, seven. I remember that being a thing.
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So, I'm at Smith was confirmed, so it's just like, well, it's
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got to be a cheetah, doesn't it? Well, actually, I thought I
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think they are your thoughts thinking.
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What he did the gangers. Then he did this a selector and
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then he did the jewel Amy's in the girl who waited.
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So he was sort of playing about with all these ideas that could
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potentially answer. Yeah, question.
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Unfortunately, I thought the actual answer was very dreary
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indeed. It's a, I think any answer that
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was going to come was going to be cheery a little bit.
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Should you post the question then?
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No, it's called this. Well actually, that's, that's
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that's too blunt. It's a good hook, isn't it?
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It gets people in but like it's always going to be unsatisfying.
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What? It's not a good hook.
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Is this pre-title sequence, which is just a series of
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fucking quirks. See, how Steven Moffat is a very
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clever, man. No, he's not.
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It's just annoying, but it's very within the style of this.
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Say that it's just quirky fun because it it shouldn't be, it
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shouldn't be but it is a screwball comedy.
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I mean it's very refreshing, they're out in the sunshine
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after that first half of the Season.
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Yeah that is probably why is well someone's watched it back
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and thought Christ get them out there to figure the doctors
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green coat. I like you season 5, look.
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He's I do, but I like this coat. I hate is Series 7.
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Look where he's tailored. I like that as well.
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But I understand the criticism that it's just too much like a
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nerds idea. Right?
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America's America's watching now?
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So he's gotta look a bit corny. Yeah, let's talk about males.
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Let's talk about Mel's. Yeah, because I do believe
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Steven Moffat is attempting to little gal, Clause here, you
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know, he's just Realize that it's a bit odd that Amy doesn't
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want to go after our baby. So it's like, well, I need to
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give some kind of a reason as to why she ain't gonna do that.
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So, I'm going to create this character who somehow ended up
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from America all the way to England as a child and then
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ended up in leadworth. I grew up with Amy Pond and Rory
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and turned into River Song. Well, I don't buy it for one
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second today. It's a shame.
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How much this is a misfire because It would only take a
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slight bit of planning, and I think, tell me, Well, if she was
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in the 11th hour and she was in The Big Bang, if she was in the
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word, in at the big bang, it would be, we'd all be going.
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Oh my God, let me, it wouldn't, it wouldn't matter.
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What happened in? Let's kill, Hitler, never
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considered that that. That would literally.
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But the argument, I just gave their that is made up on the
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spot and it don't make no sense that then would make sense.
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It wouldn't matter the episode of shit, it was, you'd forget
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because you just be thinking King of what a revelation and
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you could go back and watch you at the wedding and think, oh my
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God, that's River song as a and that if, you know, if you are
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writing it fully out from beginning to end, that's what
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you do. Because there's so much Doctor
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Who's made up on the Fly. It's bad.
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You know that bit in the wedding.
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Yeah, we're River song goes past the window and you could have
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gone to the male's, go past the window at the same time, look
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out the window and see her. I could have been amazing, they
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could have had their own little conversation like that.
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We go back. The possibilities are endless.
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Yeah, I get it on my entry on my blog entry for, let's kill
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Hitler. That was like, my main point is
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that if we just had something a little bit more, it won't be so
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Random chaotic. Where did this for, when your
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countdown got here? It's number 95 of.
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So quite low there, it's fairly low.
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It's a, it's just one. I have been blink, which came in
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at 96. Yo, singularly, unique Doctor
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Who fan art for it, but to be big, but big thing with Bleak
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was like, I can't find a fault with this, it's Flawless and
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that's my problem with it. You know, I've been watching
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recently hit me press gang. I've seen the first couple of
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episodes. Let me tell you something.
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Press gang, is Steven Moffat doing character drama for young
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adults in the Most sophisticated way, yeah, he tells very clever
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stories. He does a bit of time here.
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I missed up but obviously it's not time travel so he doesn't he
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does a lot of clever plotting. Yeah.
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He basically does what he does with Doctor Who, but he's on the
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leash, someone is basically saying this is enough.
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Yeah this is what happens let Killers.
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What happens when you get godhood syndrome and think you
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can do absolutely anything with the genius brain that you've got
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and so you just throw everything at the screen and out some of it
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sticks. But I think it's very easy to
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say like, oh it was good under us today because we're still
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kept The leash. When he's kept on the leash, he
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could use his Rusty Davis didn't even yeah, apparently didn't.
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But like to say I was this is what happens to you that Moffat
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off the leash, we gotta think of what wouldn't have happens.
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If he wasn't off the leash, there's probably so much genius
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ideas that ended up being a doctor.
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So that wouldn't have happened if someone was looking at
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either. I know, but I would have had to
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endure this fucking season. Would I be like this?
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Bit wavy picture, always go. I think that's really funny.
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Oh actually, we will watch your sodium.
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Awful is lakhan. Is can't talk.
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Mark was laughing. His head off at this bit and
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actually both said at the same time, the bit where she tosses
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the Tardis toy. So it's quite a stutter.
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Great special effect isn't. Yeah.
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It's gorgeous. It's just so I have a bit of an
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issue of how this looks visually actually this episode, but that
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is a really good visual. Yes, I could feel their budget
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in this ever try to recreate Berlin.
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It just doesn't need to be done, but the fact is just gives it a
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bit style, doesn't it? And that's the weird thing about
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wealth. It is he the money and unusual
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places? Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. It's great.
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We won't make this battle. Win.
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Demons rum as exciting as possible while a 500 locations
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and the pre-title sequence. Yeah, it's true.
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All of this where they're all screaming their heads off in the
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Tardis, cone crazy. I think it's supposed to be Be
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funny, but what laughing? Yeah.
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And and the jokes based around the temple, Grace reference,
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which only fans would know. Again, it's fallen into that
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movie. Yeah.
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Like you can't fire a gun. It felt like it's fallen into
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that, you know, that's 10 for a little bit here.
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Oh yeah, Temple Grace is still quite early, on temporal orbit.
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Okay, here we go. So we're inside the tesselecta
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now, where we don't know that yet.
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See you say you said in good man, goes to war that.
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You have big father's a selector.
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I just don't really care for it. And I think that that's one of
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the main problems with the episode this day.
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It's just a bit of enough idea, to be honest, I find anything
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worry, shrink people in there inside a bigger person, is a bit
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naff. Do you know what did this
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better? This exact concept, but better
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and funnier. The Sarah, Jane Adventures, the
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last episode, The Man Who Never Was and you've got these crazy.
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Like Star Wars SJ, our creatures inside this man and then they
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are pulling levers and stuff. It is all very steampunk and a
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bit Kitty friendly. But boy, it's so funny.
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Yeah, that's what I do. Remember what you want about
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yet? That would be better if it's
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something like that but then this reminds me too much of
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like, what I've seen of Star Trek and stuff.
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And I'm not a fan of Dark Star Trek out.
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Yeah. But to be fair, if I say, I
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don't particularly Star Trek, there's so much of it.
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I don't even know what bit I'd be talking about.
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Yeah, this woman, I forget her surname.
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Now, some ink Kenyan. Her name is Ella Canyon.
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I think she was in the Catherine Tate Show.
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Remember, she was in all the sketches where the woman is
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going, how much chafing this was just have a guests, have a
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guest, let her particularly watched it.
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I loved it when she was, very funny and Catherine Tate.
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And I always said I'd love her to be in dog.
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True? What a waste.
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I got it. I do like the little jellyfish
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things though. I'll give it that, it looks
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super cheap, their Divinity, but like, as a different sort of
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monster idea and add that the idea getting Zapped by the
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jellyfish on that night. Look, have you ever seen this
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cinematic Masterpiece Shakedown, Return of the sontarans.
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So when I finish writing my blog, this is that's my next
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thing is to go through all them weird videos that were released
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in the At ease and watch them all.
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But in Shakedown, which had a budget are believe of about 29
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pounds. Plus Caroline Forbes expenses,
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there's a Rootin at the end. Karen have all turned into a
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router and it looks like one of those jellyfish, but it's a
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video effect of like a jellyfish.
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It looks better than this. It's done on about a hundredth
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of the budget. Well, we've had the effect shot,
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the Tardis fine for the Earth. So I know where their enough
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this, but you know, why? Because I thought this could be
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Really creepy the tesselecta coming in and there's a sequence
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in spirit for space where General scoby goes up to General
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scoby. Yeah and it's so scary thing
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that you do but this is just a bit weird down and then this
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German Soldier and stuff inside this weird set and I'm like what
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the fuck is going on? It's a bit alternate you can see
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why people like, including myself that I'm just waiting on
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board to this your it, what you expected.
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It's a sort of resolution to, some of the River Song stuff
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that's just happened. I like it would be a hunt for
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the baby, the whole where, and some sort of consequence.
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But obviously Moffitt doesn't like hunts because he sets up
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gather for a and they don't hunt for that.
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He sets up the baby and we don't hope so.
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I walked, did you say very good? I didn't hear what you said.
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Why I do what I thought? You said.
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I said he doesn't like hunts. Oh okay.
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You should go back and listen to our.
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You said that because I think he does not those.
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I'm headed. Oh yeah, sorry those that's not
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what I was watching in a skirt. That's just a little bit to come
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on. I was watching this and River
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Song saying Dreadful lines, like, oh, I'm going to wear lots
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of, lovely jumpers to shock me. Tease, I mean, is I just got you
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a shout out in my living room, Steven Moffat, will you have a
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wank before you Ryan please. Yeah, I love it.
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When people say was right, and with one out and it just makes
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me laugh, I don't want to be approved because I don't
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understand, this should be no sex in Doctor Who but it
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shouldn't be like let she it's so gross sometimes they Buy deal
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of it like a great idea to say that even if I don't find that
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particularly funny, Sex is interested.
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Anyway, but don't, you know, to sort of I'll tell you I'll show
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you a sexy guy like and it's not you and I have talked about
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before it's a bit, okay? Rose goes whole, you got no
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rose. Jackie go.
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She's got the wine all over you. It's like no.
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And then she throws the wider world and funny.
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And it really works, but the doctors say, no, look at Clara
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National Scout are, you know, it's just, that's weird.
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That one's weeks, it's not a gag.
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It's just like, said, I don't know, bit worried snogs Jenny as
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well. I'll file of that.
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A lot of that. If you go, thank you.
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If you listen to a kettle and some string, a defend that's in
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the earth, they are saying. That is such a great idea for a
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podcast. I'll never get it.
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It's so weird, but that's it. Yeah, it stands out from the
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usual ones. Like that is sure what was
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called, the doctor who discussion podcast or ringi
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title that was, you are such an interesting, man.
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How could you think up a title that Drury when I went in?
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I thought I want a title that people.
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If people search Doctor Who podcast it, come on, that's over
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the ever forgets. I have some a blunt penknife.
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I know. Well, we changed it to lost on
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go. I remember initially, I was
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like, should I eat? This is just very Niche and now,
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now that Logie that hamster, Emoji than there was a great,
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great job runs Dental genius but it works.
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I'll go. Here we go.
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Okay. So is Hitler.
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Okay, after I do believe, there is a story to be told here.
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And that is the BBC novel The Shadow in the glass, which tells
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a gripping story of the doctor meeting Hitler.
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This. However, again, it's another one
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of the things that like I get it but I don't know, like I get it,
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it's almost sound like a so repugnant when I asked about
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him. Like, there's no reason to even
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mention him, just put him in the covers.
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But if you're going to do that, why you doing it in the first
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place? Exactly.
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And you know, like, but the impression I got was, you know,
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it was like, because team of it is so smug.
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As I'll solve Z takes the piss out of everything.
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It's like, oh ha ha. He cast a load of Jews and in a
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shower. Let's put him in the car, but he
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didn't say that. She
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is the best way to describe this.
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Is it. Like what else to say suddenly
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between a good man, and let's kill Hitler, whether it's cause
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he's having some PTSD over losing his daughter.
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Rory's just becomes this amazing character in that into it.
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I framed it for me one hour. He's brilliant.
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And yeah, and I also know, Rory should want to go after the
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baby. Absolutely would as the baby's
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father, but I just can't buy a me after this episode.
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I just can't believe her as a character because I just don't
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believe that she'd go on tonight.
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Errors. Which is a story about children.
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Yeah, just be like Doctor Who fan again.
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It's yeah. Again it's I didn't think about
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it. When I was watching at the time
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as an absolute, most Luke good one originally the curse of the
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black spot was supposed to come after this one.
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I know that's 56 episodes on the truck I didn't like to be honest
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day. There's not an in-between
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cursing night terrors, I think that both coughing the door.
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Is a pretty creepy. They are by context of pretty
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Dreadful story. So yeah, I mean, if another love
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conquers all ending Daddy Daddy. Yeah.
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I think flight fantasy picks up on a really good thing that I
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had never thought about, which was the so many of these
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episodes about dads and Sons, aren't they?
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And then you've got the mother and daughter a lot about them, a
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parent-child relationship. And that's probably another
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reason, as well as just the blatant darkness of Y.
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So he six feels quite repetitive all the way through.
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Ooh, it is one thing, you know, and you probably disagree with
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this, I don't really think Mafia gets Family Life convincingly
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portrayed on screen. Yeah, I think Rusty Davis.
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Does it all the time? Yeah, he gets the dysfunctional,
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family, perfect. In things like, Smith and Jones,
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and the Tyler's, and boys, Donna and Sylvia, I mean, that's, you
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know, that's probably why he runs away from it after this
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day, just a, he's tried to ignore best it.
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Probably a child it. And maybe it's not always the
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most comfortable and so he just sucks it off.
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By the time clock comes along the bill.
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We don't really have families the so I need anything.
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Excuse me. Don't you remember?
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Grand epic run. She turns up the shooter rude.
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Man. You could have made a meal out
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of there cause she's a brilliant actress but he's not interested.
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Is it the science team? Yeah, he's a shame I'll do and
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you know what you say? You will about chip.
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No, I really liked both your houses and Dan's family are for
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dad's. Mom and dad were fabulous.
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They had no effect that Dan's a little bit more.
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But yeah, this is family if you took them out I don't think
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anybody saw anything. Dan's family.
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I've got more affection for because the scouts and they were
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fully just a bit bummed when he goes.
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Oh yeah, I'll sit this. And she goes, you never forget
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this. I'm so glad this is not being a
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Christmas with my family right now.
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Yeah yeah, yeah. Is it, she says, where do you
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love? You be Beyonce?
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Yeah, let's kill Hitler. Yeah, so Mel's is just
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regenerated into River song. Oh my God, the big twist.
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Yeah. Is it I can't remember because
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it like, was that an actual twist, or did you know?
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I was surprised. Yeah, okay.
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Was, you know, I can't remember, I think at this point, I was
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already so cringe that out and like, oh my god, well, They
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send, please. I think it with this is where it
23:58
falls off a cliff. Well, I actually I say that I
24:01
really like this. Silly see now where it gets a
24:03
bit Sherlock e and then like the attractive been out within each
24:06
other in the background. So, we like swaps the gum for a
24:09
banana. Oh, this is the bit where Mark
24:11
said, he hated it because he doesn't like any of that.
24:14
It's the, I quite like this. But you know what?
24:16
I don't think, Alex Kingston can pull this off, this stuff.
24:20
I don't just not natural to her. It's who here?
24:24
Is it to anyone? Like I said, I do think she can
24:30
deliver brilliantly. Yeah, but you've got later they
24:36
act as strengths, right. Yeah, I think.
24:41
I mean, yeah, when I watch this first, I just found it a bit,
24:44
embarrassing, the nameless. And now I just try and look at
24:47
it and go, right? It's riddled with problems.
24:49
Let's just try enough it fun with it.
24:51
Well like sort of in the terms of the Season, what they are
24:54
trying to do is hunt I'll spell it out to you know, this you
24:56
seen the season, but they're trying to show that rivers and
25:00
assassin because that's important to the season and
25:04
redeem her within the same episode.
25:06
So it has a function. Yeah, but it's it's just a whole
25:10
journey. It's just so smug and over
25:13
complicated. I think that lets it down.
25:15
Is that like the the answers that's a river song.
25:18
Should have been a big important thing and they're just tossed
25:21
away in this like silly comedy episode.
25:26
Which isn't funny. Okay?
25:28
Yeah, which isn't his best. Usually the prerequisite of a
25:32
comedy is it makes you laugh? Whereas I have my sick, bucket
25:37
out the old time. Also, like, what doesn't make
25:41
sense about the Assassin thing is that, like, she's being
25:44
trained to be an assassin, but then it's the suit that shoots.
25:48
Anyway. So she gets put in the soup of
25:50
the suit. Is it shot had this chill?
25:53
You know, you're pulling at the quilt is starting.
25:55
Oh, I know. I think like put Also was like
26:00
scene-by-scene. And sorry.
26:04
Again, like in this, this story from this point is about to
26:08
hinge on the fact that the doctors going to die in half an
26:11
hour when it's like, the fucking season Arc is that he's died at
26:14
your hands. That's the next one.
26:19
We've already fucking scene in the first story.
26:21
Yeah. So, you know he's not going to.
26:23
So then it's like there. We've got our CGI Berlin in the
26:28
back pound. Now, do you remember in the girl
26:30
in the fireplace where he just looks out the window?
26:33
Rinette's bedroom and you see the snow going past and that's
26:36
and it's beautiful. You always have that in
26:38
comparison. Honestly, you always forget how
26:41
good that's the innocent girl in the fireplace.
26:44
But I doubt that that effect is just a great execution of the
26:47
girl in the fireplace and uracil in Mad can do no wrong.
26:50
Yeah, he's just so good. It had just like giving him the
26:56
slightest kiss and in dying does make you question why I like the
27:01
master or doubt for us or Snow geese, gave up split said in
27:05
just give him a kiss. Just see, a lie and Peter
27:08
Davison going at it, you know, on the cricket pitch or I've
27:14
been calling Baker. Yes, although it does make you
27:19
wonder why he falls in love with her after this till it.
27:22
I just tried to kill him. Well, Matt Smith has got that
27:26
most doctors got nothing. Really gets obsessed with the
27:29
mystery about someone that's nice.
27:30
So I think it's never love, is it?
27:33
The doctor never loves that. I don't think this is why I went
27:36
doing the wedding of river song where they get married.
27:39
And after that, they like, they suggest that this has been a
27:42
proper relationship. And yeah, like it's a mariachi
27:44
things, convenient since no. But so let's thank God.
27:49
I'll look for later Scrappy from this saint.
27:51
Okay. Well, it's funny because I was
27:53
just writing my article on girl in the fireplace tonight and I
27:57
just can't say that it's not out.
28:01
Yeah, it's quite, it's quite far ahead.
28:03
It's quite far ahead, but my problem with that one is that I
28:08
don't buy into that. Love story at all, and it's the
28:12
same problem here is that, it's a lust story, they lost through
28:17
each other, but it's not love, but then it's sold, there's a
28:19
lot of story and that's my issue with it and the River Song.
28:22
Okay, do so to me, when he was on this doing Silence of library
28:25
for us to the dead, he goes, you know, I have things to do in
28:27
life is a great writer and know that I and II, but he does have
28:31
issues and he goes, but I I would like to go back in time
28:35
and strangle. The person that gave him the
28:37
copy of The Time Traveler's Wife.
28:38
That's a good point. Yeah, I haven't seen that that
28:44
the one he did but I quite like to check it out.
28:47
He's weird rules about regeneration as well.
28:50
You can just sort of give people all your life energy and then
28:53
you can't regenerate, he's just making this shit up as he goes
28:56
along, he's a writer Joe. Like there aren't Okay.
29:03
No, but actually to give the exemption here, we don't know
29:06
that Wheels about River because she's this, we have baby that
29:09
was conceived in the vortex and all that so mutation time baby.
29:14
Yeah. So we don't know.
29:16
That's, that's a bit of a weird foreshadowing when hot punch it
29:21
up C again, he's so cool. And this, and I love this bit
29:25
with these two on the bike, and she's got her head over his
29:28
shoulder. Like, I do believe them as a
29:30
couple. Yeah.
29:31
It's from this point. That you totally believed them
29:34
as a couple. I think I'm always goes.
29:37
Yeah, it's code. Unfortunate, does not get any
29:38
better because we've got experience.
29:40
Matt, Smith's are pulling, I'm done saying, come on.
29:44
Oh, it's just what he's spasming all over.
29:47
The SEC, really in C. So interesting to watch.
29:51
Yeah, right in day of the moon or something.
29:55
Amy makes a joke about the baby going to have a Time head and
29:59
I'm not. That's true.
30:00
Um, in Sylvester McCoy lad with mats.
30:03
If and I'll do think, of course, you can ask, he can act.
30:08
So I'm trying to convince was not fair, but I never know from
30:11
scene to scene, what I'm going to get and sometimes it's great,
30:14
and sometimes it's really appalling like that.
30:18
Bitten nightmare in silver, where he's up against himself.
30:22
Oh, I made. So again, on the blog, I made
30:26
the call it. The I just don't have a clue if
30:29
the, the actors in nightmare in silver.
30:32
It's the best or the worst. Worst acting I've ever seen I
30:35
just don't know when he does the Quest for excellence impression.
30:38
It's someone else but you're right.
30:43
He is an interesting for me. Yes.
30:44
And I wouldn't deny that and I do think that is best.
30:47
He's brilliant. I his season five performances
30:50
are top dollar. I love him in Amy's Choice.
30:55
Obviously the whole season and put the look goes with him in
30:58
that season. He's got the rough her in the
30:59
battered jacket. It also suits when he gets the
31:02
straight. Jackets here so he succeeded and
31:05
the straighter hair then the image is just slightly.
31:08
Not yeah, although like we did love him in rings of akhaten
31:11
didn't way where he was very sweet it.
31:13
Now I said, that's one of my favorite doctor.
31:15
Performances of all time in. Actually, I love the bit.
31:18
Were sitting there trying to sing that Dreadful song.
31:21
Yeah, with the glasses on and then slightly shy to tell Chloe.
31:24
What's going on? Of course, incorrect.
31:38
Come on. Joe, wake up.
31:44
Any any scene with little Amelia Pond is billions.
31:49
No, no, yes, because what it should be, but she just stands
31:56
there saying the same thing 15 times, you're going to die a
31:59
little, you're gonna do well and it's still this big.
32:03
When he says fish fingers and custard poetry Joe small.
32:06
But perfectly marvelous is, we saw Rose, Tyler, Martha Jones,
32:10
and and Donna, Noble, and know a good reminder, of when Doctor
32:13
Who was really good. Hey, say them out of them, three
32:22
and Amy who should least favorite What those three and
32:28
Amy is it away. Now those three are my favorites
32:34
and then on it and then I like Graham after that.
32:37
Oh no then I built and then a light gram mass is so boring but
32:43
but you know, that's my of rock. That's his favorite.
32:46
You know what? Stage Marth is so boy, but she
32:48
possibly has my favorite companion moment of all time
32:52
which is but with 15 satellites. And Every time the chills just
32:57
come right through the, it is amazing.
33:00
She's also got the one of the worst parents ever.
33:03
What's that? You ready?
33:07
Yeah. God doctor, I'm bringing you
33:10
back to Earth but then, that would be a meal for any actor.
33:17
I'm telling you, oh, look now look, we were talking about this
33:22
because Mark used to live in Cardiff and this is the
33:25
temperature. Peace here.
33:27
Oh yeah. Has previously been but for one
33:31
into the world and where the Salah is did their negotiations
33:35
in the to par in the previous season and I said this was a
33:40
really confident show. The doctor could go.
33:42
Yeah this reminds me of satellite five.
33:45
Yeah. And just sort of hang a lantern
33:47
on it but otherwise it just seems like they keep going to
33:50
the same place. Yeah that's like Nicola Bryant
33:53
when she would drop in all these.
33:55
Kono's look the same. I don't want to suggest that a
33:59
me. So I can and Killers or a good
34:01
actress but that moment there where she was on the bike as the
34:05
robot turning her head around. Well, I thought that was
34:08
absolutely phenomenal. Well, I'm being serious, she
34:11
doesn't really wear. He said that sounds so really
34:14
creepy head turn, right? So, it's moments like this.
34:17
When you just think who's going to enjoy that?
34:20
Like this is meant to be you think it's going to be fairly
34:24
serious? How?
34:25
Besides just pissing about giant clothes or and then like it's
34:29
meant to be Nazis, are our demands to be getting answers to
34:32
the whole River Song are all the women come running out in their
34:35
bras and knickers and I'm like, have a wank Moffitt by God.
34:40
See Moffat does commonly subvert things in his stories like it?
34:46
He is the master subversion and try to uproot your audience and
34:51
trying to like surprise you. I think this is the first time
34:54
he gets it really wrong. Everyone's going into this
34:56
expecting a good story with answers about Hitler and he's
35:00
subverts, it makes it comedy about nothing and it's everybody
35:04
just Falls really flat. I'd say that about the wedding
35:08
of river song as well, and I think that's where people's
35:10
patience really started wearing thin.
35:13
And I like the end of that seat at the end of the wedding River
35:16
song. I think people like okay, thank
35:18
God, that's over. If we can.
35:20
Yeah it was then they got dr. Widow and the Wardrobe.
35:24
It was more of a relief thing was living in isolation.
35:28
So actually this applies also six when you put it on I think
35:33
it's too bad or to boggy but before you put it on There's
35:36
this element of our can't watch like Siri 6 or can touch the
35:40
Wind River Song because it's just so bogged down stuff, but
35:42
you put it on any the patient sort of goes by and it's not as
35:46
bad as you think, but it definitely has this feeling
35:49
really bogged down and things we do.
35:51
Think that about modern TV, that is a thing.
35:54
Is it loses? Some of its re washability
35:57
because when you know where the shocks and every shows are based
36:00
now with, you know, twist throughout the season to keep
36:03
you going when, you know, the twist just Like, I don't really
36:07
want to dive into that season. Again, I've got much more than
36:11
TV also, watch out dr. Rose because they're all
36:14
self-contained stories, a lot of Fatiha.
36:17
Or maybe I'm just an old fossil. No, I get where you're coming
36:21
from, though. It's hard stuff.
36:23
The same. This is where Doctor Who starts
36:26
the question. Hidden in plain sight.
36:29
This is the apotheosis of him being obsessed with the doctor
36:33
in it. Yeah, a little bit, but this is
36:35
a problem, though, isn't it? Like before we've even sorted
36:38
out, what's going on with River song?
36:40
We're Now setting up the next batch of mystery.
36:44
So we got the silence. So we got the The question and
36:48
now we've got trenzalore but it's about to come out anyway.
36:51
It can we the Sonic cane? I'm curious.
36:55
It looks like I can't believe this cane never came back.
36:59
It's great. He looks Napa, but he does just
37:01
start sort of falling about all over the set and I'm like, what
37:05
am I watching have seen? How did we go from fabulous,
37:09
David Tennant at his high to this nonsense, you know?
37:14
I think something I've never clicked before, but you've said
37:18
and you're right, it's that there is an element of cheapness
37:21
to this episode. It does feel a bit cheap, which
37:25
is strange, when I play to come back, isn't it?
37:28
It started on The Impossible Astronaut which seemed ethic and
37:32
big and gorgeous. And in fact, I think there's a
37:35
bit of cheapness for route 6B because I don't think night
37:40
terrors feels particularly expensive.
37:42
The girl who waited doesn't, that's just why.
37:44
It's even when it is in that hotel, that doesn't feel very
37:49
expensive when the River Song might have some effects in it,
37:52
but it doesn't. It's not a few sets, isn't it?
37:56
It's not I know you don't like it.
37:58
I know you're not as keen on it as me, but I will say though,
38:02
like even in the darkest moments of dogs who and I like a lot of
38:06
this, like the doctor's Wife for me, that is pure what I want.
38:11
Doctor Who to be just quirky and funny and clever and emotional,
38:16
and Visually beautiful, like, they could still knock it out of
38:20
the park. It's again, I probably probably
38:24
the doctor's wife is again, not buying into the relationship.
38:28
If the Tardis and the doctor don't get it.
38:31
I just don't get that. That exchange where she goes,
38:34
where he goes, you never took me awhile, wanted to go, but I
38:37
always took you where You needed to be.
38:39
Yeah, this some lovely lines like that.
38:42
But then like the payoff where she can't think of the word that
38:45
she's wanted to say to him, it's hello.
38:47
And he's, like, born as eyes. I'm like, that doesn't do
38:51
anyone? No soul Malloy.
38:53
No, that is so nice to me. Like, that's just, not very
38:57
good. But there's some lovely eyes.
39:01
I love the pull to open stuff as well.
39:03
It's great. I just I love the setting.
39:06
I think it's beautifully. Realize that episode well, and
39:10
also, the time is great to see. Am corridors done, right?
39:14
Because the next season we'd see them done.
39:16
Oh, so very wrong. Are you talking about Journey to
39:18
the Centre of the TARDIS way to perhaps you could ask a question
39:22
for me. Why did that man who fought he
39:26
was? An Android wasn't an Android.
39:30
Why did he never have a poo? Or if he did have a pool, which
39:36
most normal people do? Why did he not think well, I'm
39:39
an Android. What am I going to do?
39:42
Is it so dark in the fact that some people can be?
39:47
So brainwashed, that even the most obvious things get missed,
39:53
but I think it was just a terrible twist.
39:55
Oh yeah. Me too, I just got my mind, you
40:02
know, I started in stories, but people will ignore the
40:05
absolutely obvious if the brainwashed enough Yeah, that is
40:10
true. Yeah I think I know I think I've
40:12
seen that you know, in relationships and things.
40:15
Yeah, exactly. Unknown.
40:19
They are say that Karen Gillan looks, absolutely beautiful.
40:22
There doesn't she? Yeah.
40:24
She's banging the whole time. I mean, that's a 14, 15
40:28
year-old. She was like, the desire is she
40:31
the most bankable new series companion?
40:34
Oh, yeah. Because she's a slut character
40:36
as well. It is true of the new series.
40:44
Who is it Ryan Sinclair without doubt?
40:47
You dare, don't you dare? I do terrible things.
40:50
I'll be just like, King James, my Nubian, Princess.
40:55
Hey, Amy is the most loyal companion of all time, I'd say
41:00
up there with, do, do babies. I mean, Ryan could like a
41:04
beautiful. Oh, dear.
41:09
Oh God. Okay let's put it wherever songs
41:11
Grissom said acting is so terrible.
41:15
I was guys. You do you can see Alex,
41:17
Kingston go, what's happened? I was in the ER once what
41:19
happened to my career, it just seems a bit odd.
41:23
So like it feels a bit of a waste to explain the majority of
41:28
the basis of their character in this weird.
41:33
The series opener mid so is over.
41:35
I think you absolutely spot on he's trying to subvert
41:38
expectations. And that is usually a good
41:41
thing. Yeah.
41:42
And as usually works for, when he does it with Cliffhangers, I
41:45
love it when he's like, right, we're going to India and then
41:48
we're going to pick up the story somewhere else.
41:50
No one's going to suspect that he does it over and over again
41:52
and every time I'm like well what the hell's going on?
41:54
Will ya there? But yeah, I got a question for
41:58
you about the River Song, big finish audios.
42:02
We're talking about with the song failing, dismally, on the
42:05
screen at the moment. Do you believe that she succeeds
42:08
in these audios? I've only had a few and I think
42:13
they're fine, but today think it's a big finish.
42:19
It's easier to get it right. I think the the don't Some big
42:26
finishes that people can Rave about.
42:29
I just because you don't come under criticism, really didn't
42:32
get re-watch, the don't get massive load of different
42:34
opinions on them. So don't come with the same
42:36
criticisms and episodes operators, and, and they have to
42:40
stick with any get five comments on Gallifrey, Bass Pro release
42:43
these days. Yeah.
42:44
Well, because there's so many of them being like all the time.
42:48
So I won't. So I think it's very easy to go
42:53
out. Yeah, big finish to the right
42:55
but like big finish only Took what's already here?
43:01
It's, she goes a bit off the rails in Series 6, but largely,
43:04
she's a really good character, joyful.
43:07
The difference is, is obviously be finishes, not written by
43:10
Steven Moffat here. Yeah, so the better writers like
43:14
John dawnie Jonathan Morris. I Jonathan Morris that wrote the
43:17
one where River Song and Missy come together, right?
43:21
It's fucking Sublime is just amazingly good and it lacks the
43:26
smugness. It likes the.
43:29
I am so clever dialogue and it's just clever dialogue and she
43:34
really works. You respond asking some response
43:36
to it. Really well.
43:38
Yeah I can imagine the key difference is that the doctors
43:41
not the because on the TV show, she largely talks about the
43:45
doctor which makes sense but in their own.
43:49
Anyways, another complaint about the character though is me is
43:51
that she is just like she doesn't really exist in her own.
43:56
My character is as I could Buffy's obsessed with the docks.
44:01
Nice the character who's Steven Moffat is wish list.
44:06
Try still trying to write Linda day from press gag.
44:09
Well that was his that was his best success as a female
44:12
protagonist. And ever since he's never talked
44:15
it, and he's tried and tried and tried.
44:17
Amy Pond. All of them and none of them are
44:21
as good Julius, what beer is. Linda day is just brilliant.
44:25
Amy Pond said, really carrots. You're great.
44:32
Look how cheap those jellyfish. Look, what's up?
44:34
Fairly fish there and she goes, I love you as if this is how
44:39
they're going to die. What an embarrassing way to die.
44:44
How did I say? Just because I've never seen the
44:52
Tardis shrink into a it doesn't shrink does.
44:55
It also has again yeah. Well that's new.
44:58
You were watching this at the worst time ever, you know 14?
45:01
Did you say yeah that critically that time where you've just
45:04
suddenly decide to develop critical faculties.
45:07
And so everything is the worst thing ever, you know, and you
45:10
want it to be dark. So like as might have enjoyed
45:14
the good of my ghosts or but this was just the worst thing
45:18
you could have put in front of my eyes.
45:21
This your least favorite the season, then.
45:26
At the time. It definitely would be.
45:27
It won't be no night. Terrors is probably my least
45:29
favorite color. So the Black sport.
45:32
Oh God! No sorry.
45:34
No! No Rebel flesh, almost people.
45:37
Oh no! Wait, we're doing old buddy,
45:39
seasoned. I think a rebel flesh is better
45:41
than both night terrors and certain curse.
45:45
I listened to my commentary can go, I'll tell you where, but
45:49
you're not where you're wrong, but where our opinions vary, I
45:53
think the wedding of River Song is better than this.
45:55
It's a bit more exciting and a bit more varied.
45:58
See you? Again at the end of the season,
46:00
that's why you must achieve before.
46:01
I don't like dogs who go into areas where they're killing
46:03
babies, killing companions, Amy kills, Madame kovarian, are you
46:07
going to say that's really cool, but I think we should be in a
46:09
place where their companions killing off the villains, like I
46:12
thought work for me. Me.
46:16
It does work for me. I think the I think the doctor
46:19
should kill off more Village occasion there should there
46:22
should have been a better way. Luke the doctor is so much more
46:27
interesting when he will do the odd little kill and when he's
46:30
not being such a moral high horse man and plus it's a
46:36
alternate reality isn't it? So it's my sort of preferred way
46:41
of doing this or dark. Doctor thing is the end of
46:44
family. Not where he can fuck, you know,
46:47
he sends them off into mirrors and eternal chains and black
46:51
holes and things like that. It's probably the best it's ever
46:54
been done so good. That the end of the conveyor, a
46:57
nice story. That was that little Thomas
47:01
Sangster is voice one. That deep was it but it makes
47:04
him so powerful. Hey, the fact you can put
47:07
someone in a mirror. It's up to the most powerful
47:10
thing I've ever. Well no because from the bat two
47:13
years every time I looked a little bit era of waiting to say
47:16
that little girl behind me with a little blue.
47:22
I've got to say I think I have softened on Amy Pond over time
47:25
because I like I said, I do really really like her and
47:28
Series 7. A I really dislike her in series
47:32
5 my favorite her and Rory that relationship is toxic in series,
47:38
ha. Yeah, for as I say, I wasn't I
47:41
wasn't bothered about worried so he's five.
47:43
So for me I'm just watching like Really sexy people go around and
47:47
the unit's together, whoo-hoo like a flirting with each other,
47:51
with great stories, and a great Arc, and it's just brilliant.
47:56
Oh, but you know what her I remember I was really pissed at
48:00
the end of vampires of Venice when she's like, oh, I've got my
48:03
boys and she's little and of off against each other, all right?
48:06
And I really had this Dreadful reaction to it and then I
48:09
realized why. At the time I was in a
48:12
polygamous relationship seeing two people And it was fucking
48:15
Agony. I'll tell you.
48:17
So I was like, okay, it's on the primary, it's not a me poems,
48:21
it's me. Lazy one man's old enough,
48:24
pleasing twos or near impossible.
48:27
Wow, that's interesting, even an interesting life.
48:30
Joe happiest, free markets are fair.
48:33
You know, over with a man in Colombia, it's him or probably
48:38
off. But cast me off downstairs as
48:41
well. Be careful.
48:45
Sorry, back to let the rivers with his sacrifice and all the
48:48
Regeneration is to bring the doctor back to life.
48:51
The conclusion, we've drawn to here is my love life is far more
48:54
interested in. Let's kill Hitler, it's a means
48:58
to an end, but certainly as a very chaste kiss arriving there,
49:02
it could have been done so much better.
49:05
These these Revelations and thus it's the one time is, subversion
49:09
hasn't paid off. I think is the conclusion or
49:12
sort of coming to but I think is it's a Tonally.
49:16
It's ill-judged, I narratively. You're right, isil judged and
49:22
it's another doctor is dead plot line.
49:24
It should be like this is the sort of character stuff as well.
49:27
The rusty Davis would Ace he'd make you feel all these moments.
49:31
Yeah. Kind of going or what's
49:33
happening. He's giving him all the
49:36
Regeneration energy and he's alive even though we knew he was
49:39
going to die on the beach and what's happening?
49:41
Yeah. I mean it is it is fun.
49:45
It's you know it's quite fun and it is a bit unique, it Spacey.
49:48
It's yeah, it's definitely good enough.
49:51
It's watchable, it's got the regulars, you know.
49:54
Are giving good performances. Yeah.
49:57
You know, half the problem is, is that Paul Steven Moffat, who
50:02
is an exceptional writer at its best?
50:05
Like, I still think stuff like empty, child, doctor, dances
50:10
silence, and I before I said, are some of the best doctor
50:12
here, there is He's he's always lumbered in his own ERA with
50:16
right in the season beginners and the season Enders and this
50:21
year. He's lumbered with that twice
50:23
over because he's got a next year, Karen's, when he finally
50:27
comes to series I and the next episode, we're going to talk
50:30
about listen. Make gotta write a mid season
50:34
story where he just got a fucking write a story.
50:37
Hmm. That wasn't really our bases, a
50:39
few bits in it but it's just a story in its own, right?
50:44
That shows you what you can really do as a writer when he's
50:46
not lumbered with all this nonsense.
50:48
Yeah. And he said that self didn't, he
50:50
said when he was going into capella Sera, he just wants to
50:54
do that. Weird experimental episode
50:55
again. Yeah.
50:57
And what I'd like to know what I think is best script is for
51:02
dogs. Who God one after time, in the
51:06
doctor falls. So there's definitely up there
51:10
and I think he manages to marry doing the end of the season and
51:15
telling a standalone story and so many elements.
51:19
Brilliant set pieces more great lines and you can shake a stick
51:23
at, you know, like giving people performance pieces.
51:27
Yeah, and ins for so many characters.
51:31
It's from believe, I recorded a commentary on forgot to press
51:34
record honestly. I think like as a standalone
51:40
piece for me it has got to be having sent this to know if it's
51:44
that is that's a beautiful piece of writing as well but she I
51:47
think it's a beautiful piece of TV though.
51:49
Like it did. Yeah.
51:50
That's the whole, the whole creation is.
51:54
It's very interesting that Russell Davis has looked over
51:56
his shoulder and gone. Yeah, that Rachel took me lay
51:59
and that Mark tonderai their freak directors.
52:02
I'm going to love them for my secrets.
52:04
Yeah, yeah right sorry, we're getting a trailer.
52:08
For night terrors now. And I think after watching,
52:10
let's kill Hitler. The last thing that either was
52:12
the trailer for this episode. It's just, it looks this for
52:18
again. Yeah, it wasn't great.
52:21
Was it? No.
52:22
Okay, Master. This was it, the girl who I is.
52:25
Yeah. Which I got such an interesting
52:28
story like that, but I'll save it for the blog as a tease and
52:31
be out in about three months time.
52:33
I'm so on the fence with that one because I think it hits.
52:38
Emotionally when it needs to. But as a lot of longer stretches
52:41
of fucka whitening, does that rank?
52:46
Why? Hang on?
52:47
You said when you get to it that means it is higher because your
52:50
yeah, its way into your list. Yeah, we're fifty or sixty one.
52:54
I think was 61 out tonight. You know what?
52:57
You know what number 60 was. So bang in the middle, we are no
53:00
have 120. It's your fucking like this.
53:03
Yeah, the return of doctor Mysterio.
53:06
I don't mind. That's all you know.
53:07
Not good. I think there's two back-to-back
53:10
House, Husbands of River Song and the return of doctor
53:13
Mysterio. That's when Capaldi, finally,
53:16
finally, absolutely gets comfortable with that role.
53:19
Yeah, said that as well. I said that, I said that you
53:23
finally watching him just have fun in the roll.
53:26
It's a bit worried seen the snow outside.
53:28
The Tardis, you know what's great about that is that he's
53:33
talking to his husband's River Song.
53:35
The, that's great that because But episodes and episodes we've
53:40
seen this tortured Capaldi's doctor there's just like
53:44
destroyed or crying or so. And then suddenly on Christmas
53:47
day, is just laughing about a head in a bag on the floor.
53:49
And you just like, oh, thank God.
53:51
He's just having a laugh. Again, although I do, I will say
53:54
my favorite Christmas special is Last Christmas.
53:57
I think is a door that episode, The get out of the car, only
54:01
ones hundreds of cost and it. Oh, that's.
54:04
Are you mad is base Under Siege monsters like Do you like Doctor
54:08
Who it's beautiful? Poetry.
54:11
Well, look, we better. Do, free fabulous, things about.
54:14
Let's kill Hitler, that's going to be an old, but and I can drag
54:17
him up here. We can do listen.
54:19
Yes. Okay, my number one, then I so
54:24
moffatt's. Got himself in this situation.
54:27
Fraught with this story. Are at the beginning of let's
54:29
kill Hitler. So based on that, I think that,
54:32
what we named our daughter after our daughter it's quite a fun
54:36
and kooky idea. And if, if we'd see males
54:40
before, if she'd have been established as a background
54:43
character, or like Rivard winked at her at the wedding or
54:46
something, we'd have lost them - the way.
54:49
Absolutely governmental, and it be remembered as one of the
54:52
craziest twists in Doctor Who as it is.
54:56
And then after four. Yeah, that's it, is, it's a
54:59
kooky half based afterthought and it is a shame.
55:02
As I say, with the way, the shows just made because if you
55:05
had all the time in the world, you would go back and writer
55:08
into the big bag of Rio into the on fire, but obviously TV's not
55:12
like that. Okay.
55:14
Well, sort of half-assed compliment, but we'll take.
55:18
It was a good. A good idea, is it?
55:20
Okay? And so I'm gonna say this is
55:23
tough. Like I said the idea of the
55:25
tesselecta I do like and I like the idea appealed little people
55:30
inside a person, controlling, their also has done amazingly
55:34
well and I do like the effect of like the paths of the selector
55:39
changing from person to person but just on the person.
55:47
Oh yeah, I think of you say, you know.
55:48
Yeah. With the window the tiles.
55:51
I think it's called it flips. The second one would be Matt,
55:55
Smith's performance as much as we disagree.
55:59
Yeah, like him dying. It does somehow sell it to me.
56:03
Even though the story arc, is he dies at the beach and like, I do
56:09
genuinely feel for him when he's like, it looks genuinely grave,
56:12
even though everything in your mind is Tanya, it's obviously
56:16
not, he's obviously not going to die.
56:19
Yeah, and I think he looks great.
56:22
All Epson. He's got two different outfits.
56:24
He looks great. I'm getting desperate now.
56:28
So I'm going to say the Snatch. I don't eat marigolds music.
56:34
Isn't that great in this? But I think the bit at the
56:37
beginning where males is established and we go through
56:41
their childhood music. So gently and really lovely and
56:45
sunny. I love that bit of music, right?
56:47
You're next for all the comedy that doesn't work in the
56:51
episode. I do really like the scene where
56:53
it's a bit shit. Lucky and the doctor in with
56:56
outwitted each other in the background of what's been going
57:00
on. So he like turns the fruit bowl.
57:02
And the bananas, the gun. Our, he runs over to the chair
57:05
and unloads the bullets and stuff either.
57:06
I think that's quite just kooky for.
57:10
And finally, I like Arthur darvill and Joe, or even when
57:16
he's not doing amazing things. He does get to punch a Nazi and
57:20
that is fun. Yes, Joel hardest, I've had to
57:25
scrape to find things. Yeah, you can tell you're
57:29
usually quite like full of Praise perfect and your final
57:35
point was Arthur darvill in general.
57:40
I was desperate. All right well Luke you and I
57:45
are now going to skip across to the Peter Capaldi era.
57:49
Oh yeah for what I consider to be the most labyrinthine script
57:54
since Ghostlight. Oh good.
57:57
Yeah it's definitely the most inventive piece of writing had
58:01
seen on TV. He for a long while, it's like
58:05
this. You if I went into my bedroom
58:07
and saw some something with a blanket over his head, I'd never
58:12
go to sleep ever again. Well gets to it.
58:15
It's, but I'll save ya.