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The Power of Release: How Curtis McCollum Helps Entrepreneurs Break Through Self-Sabotage · Beyond Fulfillment Podcast

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  Basically, that's part of what the subconscious wants.
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  The subconscious wants to know that because it's holding.
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  Think about it.
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  We hold on to things because we want to feel like we're safe.
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  I mean, the subconscious mind's job is to keep us safe.
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  But sometimes it keeps us safe from things that we shouldn't be.
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  It shouldn't be something that's, that's not a detriment to us, but it wants to keep us safe.
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  Today we sit down with Curtis McCollum, a dynamic leader whose journey stretches from record breaking sales success to transformative human potential coaching.
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  As the founder and CEO of Bespoke Human Potential Coach, Curtis has spent decades not just achieving in the financial services world, think millions in sales and top company honors, but also unraveling what drives real personal breakthrough.
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  In this episode, Curtis unpacks his own battles with self.
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  Sat sabotage, explains how subconscious beliefs shape our outcomes.
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  And he reveals the powerful technique like mental emotional release, NLP and hypnotherapy that he now uses to help entrepreneurs and high achievers smash through their limits.
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  Stick around for inspiring stories, actionable mindset shifts, and Curtis's honest wisdom on growth, grit and the courage it takes to pursue your true calling.
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  As always, if you found value from this content, please like and subscribe.
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  All right, Curtis McCollum, welcome to Beyond Fulfillment.
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  Hey Dave, man, thank you for having me today.
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  I know, I really appreciate you.
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  We basically was able to get together and kind of share my story and share something with your.
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  With your audience that hopefully that will actually help them move to the next level.
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  Absolutely.
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  Yeah.
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  We're excited to have you here.
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  And our audience is full of entrepreneurs, high achievers.
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  So I think your story and what you're doing certainly is going to provide value to them.
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  Yes.
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  So Curtis, you're the, the founder and the CEO of Bespoke Human Potential Coaching.
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  Yes.
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  And we'll get into how that started and what you do for people.
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  But you've had a long career sales through most of your life and you've always had this dream to, to be motivational speaker and to help others to do coaching.
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  But can you just start from the beginning of your career and talk about how everything unfolded to where you are?
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  Yeah, it's.
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  I had an interesting trajectory because just like most of us, I've always had an entrepreneur mindset.
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  So even in sales, never had a salary, always worked as an entrepreneur.
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  And when I first got into sales, my first job was in financial services.
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  It's interesting that as soon as I got there, I gave My training audience, my number one speech, like hey, I'm going to be number one.
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  Here's what I'm going to say.
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  And we did this number one speech and about a year and a half later from that point of being a rookie, I was the number one sales agent in the company.
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  Broke a lot of different records.
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  But just like most of us who are in sales or who entrepreneurs, something stopped me, something blocked me.
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  I remember the day I was standing in my garage, new car, new house and I was like, wow, can I continue to do this right?
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  And then just something blocked me.
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  I didn't know what it was at that time, but I noticed that something kept trailing.
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  So I stayed in sales.
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  I stayed in sales as a manager.
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  I have all the certified as a Clin I mean certified as a certified financial planner and a C CHLU and all of these other initials with financial services.
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  But still, even though I would hit plateaus, right.
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  I mean I would hit these marks.
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  I was doing over a million dollars in, in sales and revenues for companies.
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  But then something would hit me and says, wow, this is hard and this is difficult.
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  And I kept doing it over and over again.
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  Well, long story short, now you know, about six years ago we were, I was financially able to just to retire from financial services, finally leave that behind me and started doing what I've always wanted to do is actually
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  help other individuals who have some of the same challenges that I was having that some of the same blocks that I was experiencing.
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  Now that I can help them move them quickly, easily, without a lot of long term therapy type thing.
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  I'm a coach.
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  So, so that's kind of what I did.
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  So I went, I'm certified as a clinical hypnotherapist.
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  I'm certified in neuro linguistic programming.
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  If you don't know what that is, that's the same technology that Tony Robinson uses.
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  And also mental emotional release, which is a, which is a, which is a science that help people get over things really quick.
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  I mean like 10 minutes or less.
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  So that's kind of what my background story is, Dave.
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  Okay, all right.
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  So appreciate all that.
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  And there's a lot to unpack there.
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  So you mentioned.
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  So you had some incredible success right off the bat.
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  You got into sales.
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  Yes.
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  You said you're going to be number one.
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  I'm sure everyone probably rolled their eyes when they hear this rookie guy saying that.
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  But then lo and behold, a year and a half later, you're the number one sales rep in the company.
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  Big money.
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  Right off the bat.
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  I'M sure for a young sales professional.
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  But you said you had some blocks, right?
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  And we hear that a lot from people about these mental emotional blocks or self sabotage or, or whatnot.
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  I mean, were you able to, to really unpack what, like what that was and what was actually blocking you at that time?
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  No, I mean, I kind of, kind of kept pushing through it.
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  You know, I would start success plateau and then the same thing, the same cycle kept happening.
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  Interesting thing happened to me where, where I kind of figured out what it was a day about.
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  Listen to this now, about, about four, four, five weeks ago, I'm having all these breakthroughs for my clients, right?
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  I mean, they are like, curtis, oh my God, what you're doing is fantastic.
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  And I'm stopping, I'm looking at myself, I'm like, okay, what is going on with me?
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  I'm having success, but not the type of success that I truly want or desire.
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  And so I call one of my buddies over who also does mental and emotional release.
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  I says, man, do some work with me to figure out what it is that I was number one.
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  Sabotage.
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  Making six, doing seven figure income for companies.
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  Sabotage, you know, doing great breakthroughs.
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  So I keep having this wave of sabotage, Success, sabotage, success, sabotage.
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  And I'm like, what is it?
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  Because I keep running this script in my head.
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  Success is hard and difficult.
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  So when we did the session on Mayday, what happened was I went back, we kind of floated back and says, okay, let your subconscious mind tell you what happened.
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  And I say, success is hard and difficult.
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  And it happened to me.
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  I accepted and decided that success is hard and difficult.
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  When I was about age 2, that's where my subconscious came up.
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  Is it true or not?
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  I don't know, but this is what makes it true.
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  We did it.
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  We released it.
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  I basically replaced success is hard and difficult with I am con persistent, I'm strong, and I'm courageous.
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  So that's the new learning I got from that.
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  Well, lo and behold, because my mom's still with us, thank God.
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  And I gave her a call.
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  I says, mom, what was happening in my life when I was around 2?
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  She says, oh, sweetie, she's from Mississippi.
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  So she said, oh, sweetie, when you're around 2, I was trying to potty train you because your sister was being bored and I didn't want two babies in diapers at the same time.
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  But she said, this is what she said and it was hard and difficult for you to be potty trained.
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  The same language that I have been using all of my life in sales that soon as I hit a high, the language that was the.
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  The messaging that was coming up for me was hard and difficult.
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  It's the same language that she used when.
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  When I called her a few weeks ago.
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  So that's kind of what I do.
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  Regardless of where we are in our journey.
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  These messages usually don't start when we think they start.
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  They start somewhere that an offhanded remark or something that happened that kind of drives this behavior, that creates this mindset block.
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  Okay, all right.
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  And so we hear so much about that, right?
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  Like, all of these subconscious beliefs are formed between ages 0 to 7.
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  And often times it's the people that take care of us who mean well, but maybe they're evolved or they have negative attitudes or they may say things out of what seems to be love.
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  But like you said, right, she's saying this is hard and difficult.
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  And you pick that up, and then that's turning into sabotage, where as soon as you hit a level of success, you're thinking it's hard and difficult.
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  And then you.
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  You go through the cycle and you sabotage, right?
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  So you.
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  You go through this emotional release therapy, and you find that out, like, how did you.
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  How did you release and change that.
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  That subconscious programming?
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  Well, in.
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  In mental emotional release, what happens is that there's a couple of questions I normally ask the client when they come in to see me.
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  What, by an incident?
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  The first question I ask them is this.
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  Is it okay for you to release this today consciously and be aware of it conscious?
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  Subconsciously.
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  And be aware of it consciously?
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  First of all, I get their permission because they need to know, yes, I want to do this right.
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  The second question is that I ask them, if you were to know, in order to release this.
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  This emotion, this feeling from the root, what is the root cause, the first event?
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  So that when we released it, we can have it gone kind of forever.
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  Was it before?
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  Was it during or after birth?
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  So it's like three phases that I asked them three questions.
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  Was it before, during, or after birth?
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  They then I said, don't let your conscious mind answer the question.
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  Answer it subconsciously, meaning the first thing that comes to mind.
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  That's what I want.
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  That's the answer I'm looking for.
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  And they will come up with something.
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  Like, for me, I said it was age two when this, this, this emotional.
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  This event happened.
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  Sometimes is in the womb, sometimes it's before the womb.
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  So people like, well, is it true?
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  I mean, could it be a past life?
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  I don't know.
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  I don't judge about what actually comes up.
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  I'll allow their subconscious mind speaks to them and whatever it is is okay.
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  Because the goal is not to really fish to find out is that true or not.
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  The goal is to release the negative emotions that's actually tied to that event.
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  So then once we do what we do at that point Dave, we, we kind of will allow them to float above their timeline.
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  So your timeline has all these instance instances in the timeline.
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  Your, your subconscious knows exactly what everything happens.
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  We tell them to float above your timeline, above that event.
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  Looking down on the event.
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  Now most of the time at age 2, I didn't know what the event was, but I had a feeling that was in my body that let me know that the event was present.
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  And so we're looking for the feeling.
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  We go look at for that feeling in that time frame.
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  And then we, we, we asked your higher self.
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  This is key initially, can be done by anyone.
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  Is that when you are feeling a negative emotion or limiting belief, stop and take some deep breathing and ask yourself what is it that I need to learn from this event so that I can release it?
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  Because the subconscious mind wants to have a learning and once you learn something from it, it allows it to release the, the host of it or the, the, the emotional ties that it has to it.
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  So now are you saying that what like you figured that out with your, your own subconscious and when you do this for other people, you saying that the reason the subconscious holds on to these is to basically for
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  you to learn something from that event and then once you do, then it can release and you can basically evolve and move on with, with what you're supposed to learn from that experience?
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  Absolutely.
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  Basically that's part of what the subconscious wants.
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  The subconscious wants to know that because it's holding, think about it.
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  We hold onto things because we want to feel like we're safe.
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  I mean the subconscious mind's job is to keep us safe, but sometimes it keeps us safe from things that we shouldn't be.
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  It shouldn't be something that's, that's not a detriment to us, but it wants to keep us safe.
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  The safe part of me is hard and difficult was it was thinking, oh, I'm protecting you from this emotion, but actually was preventing me from actually moving forward.
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  But once I got the new think of.
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  I reframed it.
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  Once I got a new frame around the old emotion, then it releases because it says, oh, okay, you got it.
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  And this happens a lot.
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  I love that question that you just asked.
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  It happens a lot because it's like I had a friend or there was, like, having some issues, medical issues, and the body is saying, hey, I'm.
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  I'm trying to get your attention.
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  So it gives you different ways of getting your attention.
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  It gives you pain, it gives you headaches, it gives you backaches, it gives you neck aches.
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  It gives you all of these things.
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  It says, hey, I'm trying to get your attention.
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  I need for you to stop and get a learning from this.
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  I'm trying to get your attention.
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  We just kind of keep pressing it down and pushing it down.
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  So, yes, part of releasing negative emotions and is allowing the subconscious mind now to learn from what we need to learn from it and then leave.
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  It's like.
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  It's like an emotionally.
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  It's a feeling that.
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  That wants to communicate with us and leave, but sometimes we.
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  We prevent the learning, and so we kind of stay in that cycle.
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  Okay.
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  All right.
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  And how.
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  So you had this long career in sales, right?
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  And you've been doing this coaching program, it's about seven years now, where you've been helping other.
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  Other people?
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  About six, seven years, yes.
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  Okay, so what.
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  What made you realize now is the time to.
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  To start this coaching practice?
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  Oh, man.
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  I.
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  Well, it was.
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  I came to a point in my life in.
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  In sales, right?
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  I was a.
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  I was a manager in sales.
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  I worked for some.
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  Some large companies.
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  I worked for Prudential and National, National Life and all these companies.
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  And it was time for me to renew my licenses.
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  You have to understand, as a financial professional, I had, like, six different licenses, and it's very difficult to get.
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  So I came to this point in my life.
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  It's like, okay, what do I truly want to do?
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  And I made a decision like, okay, I'm willing to let go of all these licenses that took me years to get to go into something that I really, truly desire.
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  Now, granted, I was financially able to do it.
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  Meaning it's like, not.
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  I just didn't drop it.
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  I mean, I was financially able.
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  So at that point in my life, I was ready to do something like that.
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  So.
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  But then I, I made a decision and that's what most this, that's the key to anything that, that you think about, think and grow rich and all those other great books.
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  It's like the life starts when you make a decision.
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  We truly decide what we truly want and we just go for it.
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  Okay, so you went for it.
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  And then let's talk about the, the coaching.
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  Like, how did you go about building this practice and getting clients and really serving others and doing this work that you were so aligned with?
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  Well, first thing that happened was when I first went into coaching, I got a certification as an executive coach and I started doing executive coaching, had a couple of clients and I'm like, wow, this is not what I
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  did.
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  This is not what I was doing to become successful.
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  They just didn't feel right for me.
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  And that's when I went back and I got a certification as a clinical hypnotherapist because I use hypnotherapy.
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  Way back when, when I was.
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  Became number one to, to, to be successful, I went and also got a master practitioner as a neuro linguist in neuro linguistic programming.
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  Way back when, when I first started, I went to Tony Robbins Firewalk and I walked on the hot coals and I did all of the things that he was doing.
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  So I knew that the technology that he used to help change people's lives was, was valid.
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  It's a great technology.
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  So I got a master practitioner in that.
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  And also I went and got a master in mental emotional release.
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  So that's when I started on my journey.
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  But it wasn't easy.
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  Right.
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  I'm starting out from financial services now, jumping into this coaching arena.
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  And back in Mississippi, we would say everybody in their mama is a coach, right?
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  Everybody are coaches now.
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  You know, they do something and they're coaches.
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  And so it was.
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  This is a very difficult journey.
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  And so I, I mean, I hit my head a lot in the first years.
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  I mean, you know, you hire people to do certain things because I didn't know how to do it.
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  So I spent a lot of money and had a lot of failures.
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  I mean, so just like anything else, you know, you, you have these failures.
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  You.
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  But that's the whole ideal of.
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  Part of my coaching framework is failures are not failures.
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  Failures are just a learning experience.
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  That's why I created the framework a few years ago.
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  Legit mindset, which is learning, growing, expanding and transforming.
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  Meaning that whatever we're going through, it's an opportunity for us to Learn something so that we can grow, we can expand and we can transform.
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  So, so how do a lot of people I think is like someone said, I hope someone keeps shitting on me, you know, you should do this, you should do that, you should do this to be, to be successful.
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  All of these shoulds, right?
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  And but there was challenges and, but I kept moving, I kept moving forward and to try to find my groove, to find the front, my voice, to try to find my authentic being.
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  And that's kind of what I've been really working on in the last year or so, just being me, just being Curtis.
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  All right, and so you had had a very successful career in financial services.
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  Done very well.
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  He had like six licenses, made a lot of money right to where you were financial security here when you, you went and jumped into the coaching thing and given you had such a difficult time right in the beginning,
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  like you said, hitting your head and you know, having to constantly pivot and you know, all the mistakes.
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  Was there ever a point where you were thinking like wow, what, what did I get myself into and started second guessing yourself?
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  Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
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  That's the human part of us is like when we hit, when we hit, when we hit Roblox know we want to stop, we want to like oh my God, when did I get in into.
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  But you know, but that's when, that's when the learning actually starts.
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  That's where your strength is actually built is and that's when you truly have to know this is what you truly want to do.
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  You know, one of the reasons people quit is they don't have enough wise why they want to do what they want to do, why they do what they do.
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  And part of my why is, you know, I love helping people.
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  I love helping them transform their lives.
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  And you know, and obviously for part of when I first started, I'm paying me paying, I'm paying myself to help others, you know, because it wasn't a lot of money flowing.
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  So I'm still, I was paying out of my pocket to help others, but it was worth it to me.
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  It's worth the investment because that's what I wanted to do.
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  That's what I truly, truly wanted to do.
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  Okay.
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  All right.
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  And you said something earlier too.
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  You said like most of us I had these blocks, right?
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  And now you're working with many entrepreneurs and you know, high level professionals that said, like why do you think that's such a common thread to where people have a level of success and then they, they somehow self sabotage.
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  Well, it's it's like this.
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  First of all, part of my belief, all of us have blind spots.
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  Everybody have something in our life that.
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  That does not go exactly the way we want it to go.
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  The difference is, is that, is your blind spot now preventing you from actually moving forward?
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  Is it preventing your growth?
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  Is it preventing your expansion?
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  And that's the difference between a true blind spot is.
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  For me, if.
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  If I keep.
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  If I kept running the script, success is hard and difficult.
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  That meant that once I reached the success I want to reach in my coaching practice, more than likely I was going to sabotage again because of the fact that that script was really running.
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  So.
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  So with these blind spots, first of all, one of the things I share with people is this, Dave, is that, number one, you have to be honest with yourself.
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  You know, one of the biggest challenges we have as entrepreneurs is that we're not honest with ourselves Sometimes.
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  We want to make.
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  We want to make.
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  We want to.
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  We want people to think that we have it all together all the time, and that everything is always working okay.
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  And it's not sometimes, and it's okay.
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  And I just wrote an article other day, it's like, it's okay not to be okay, but it's not okay to pretend that you're okay and you're not.
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  So what I'm saying is that if you have a blind spot, if you have something that's now preventing you from moving to the next level, then that's when you need some work with it.
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  If you have a blind spot that it doesn't really affect your business.
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  It doesn't really, you know, prevent you from actually making the money you want to make or having the happiness you want to have or having the success you want to.
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  You want to have or have the, the marriage life or the relationships and things of that.
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  It's not.
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  It's a blind spot, it's a nuisance, but it's not something that's actually preventing you from becoming the best version of yourself.
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  Okay.
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  All right.
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  And so let's, let's talk about some of the success stories that you've had in terms of coaching others.
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  I mean, can you just give us a couple kind of examples of some breakthroughs that some of your clients have had?
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  Absolutely.
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  One, I just, we just finished a coaching cycle, and I just use the.
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  The.
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  The pronoun they.
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  So that we're not actually sharing some of the identities here.
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  But this, this.
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  This person, when they came to me, literally didn't have a job.
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  Now, based on our training and based on our coaching, there now is a CFO of a company.
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  That's what they're.
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  That's what the goal was.
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  But they, in the midst of that, the challenges was some of the stuff that happened way back when.
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  Now granted, now I want people to understand I don't really dig deep into the past is not all about the past.
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  Basically we re revisit the past to kind of figure out what is it that's causing your current behavior.
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  So with this person, we visited the past to figure out what was it that was blocking her, what was it that's actually preventing her from actually having the happiness and having the success that she wanted.
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  And once we got rid of those blocks and did some coaching with her and conditioning of the new behavior, and it took a minute, it took about even after we finished coaching, it took her a minute to really
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  still to integrate.
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  But success came.
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  Came in a big way.
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  It's interesting to me exactly what we.
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  She set out to become a CFO of a company.
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  Lo and behold, that's what she has.
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  Okay, and so what with all these people you work with too, what.
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  What do you think's the biggest challenge or the biggest block that.
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  That people has?
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  It just these, these beliefs that have picked up somewhere along the way that, that aren't necessarily true, but yet people have stuck in their subconscious.
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  I.
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  I would probably say yes.
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  I mean, that's the broad yes, because that's the name of my company is Bespoke Human Potential Coaching.
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  Meaning that what I do believe this, Dave, is that no one is the same, right?
• 25:07
  No, no, no.
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  Everybody is different.
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  That means that as a coach, my job is to now to figure out what is the combination you need versus what, what she needed.
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  Because what she went through in her background and her experience is going to be totally different than yours.
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  So this is the thing, what we try to look for in my coaching practice is what is the greater issue?
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  Because a person is going to come to me with an issue.
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  I'm not making the money I want to make, or I'm feeling like.
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  I'm feeling like I have imposter syndrome, or I have, you know, I'm not good enough, or I'm not feeling this, so they're going to have all these issues.
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  Those are just issues.
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  What we're looking for is the greater problem.
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  What is it that's actually causing the issues?
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  Because if we can knock out the greater problem, then we will actually get all the rest of the issue.
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  So people come with issues and they could come in A lot of different colors, shapes, unsize.
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  This usually boils down to something internally that sometimes is triggered as could be about money, could be about not good enough.
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  It could be a lot of different issues.
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  But the.
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  At the end of the day, we just have to figure out what is the greater issue that's actually causing the problem that we actually seeing.
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  Okay.
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  All right.
• 26:30
  And, Curtis, after how, you know, how far you've come in the sales journey, and then, you know, from persevering through the initial stumbles and really getting your coaching practice off the ground, I mean, what.
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  What's been the best part of your whole entrepreneurial journey?
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  I think just going through it, you know?
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  You know, this is a journey, guys.
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  It really is a journey.
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  And part of the journey is enjoying the process, you know, because in reality, in my.
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  In my thinking is that there's really not a destination.
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  The destination is going to continue to move.
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  Because part of my philosophy is I'm learning, I'm growing, I'm expanding, I'm transforming.
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  That means every time we reach a point in our lives, there's another learning, there's another growing, there's another expanding, there's another transforming.
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  So I think now understanding that this is a journey, and this journey is about me learning something new so that I can expand, transform and expand, grow and transform and just become better.
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  So I think you asked the question, the simple answer would be just the growth, the process of understanding that now that's what this is all about.
• 27:48
  Okay.
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  All right.
• 27:49
  And, Curtis, if people want to reach out to you and learn more about the work you do with the.
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  The NLP and the emotional release and the hypnotherapy and how you help people transform, what's the best way people can reach out to you?
• 28:03
  The best way for them to reach out to me is either on LinkedIn.
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  Definitely have a presence on LinkedIn.
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  Also, I have.
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  I'm on all social media platforms also with.
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  On.
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  On YouTube.
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  I have a YouTube channel.
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  I do have a podcast called the Curtis McCollum show, but most of that is still on YouTube too.
• 28:22
  You can get it on YouTube.
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  And I.
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  I don't know if my assistant gave you a link or not, but we can definitely give.
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  Give some.
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  Some free or something to.
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  To your listeners.
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  We have.
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  I just created.
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  They can get the.
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  The smaller version on.
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  On YouTube is called the Anxiety Reframe model.
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  I just created that system.
• 28:43
  They can get that and they can download it, and they're on that one that's also a free download on that.
• 28:50
  Okay.
• 28:51
  Yeah, we'll link that in the show notes for everyone so they can they can access that also.
• 28:54
  And then, yeah, we'll put your YouTube channel and your website, your LinkedIn, all of that in there as well.
• 28:59
  And I also have her to send you some other links that you can put on there that they can give some with some coupon codes on it.
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  Okay.
• 29:06
  Excellent.
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  All right.
• 29:07
  Well, Curtis, thank you so much for taking the time to be here and sharing all this valuable wisdom from your journey with our audience.
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  We greatly appreciate it.
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  Oh, thank you, Dave, for having me this morning.
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  And I hope that your listeners got something that they can actually to take from this and kind of move forward.
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  All right.
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  All right.
• 29:25
  Thank you, Curtis.