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- 0:01[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back, Boilermaker fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report or a special edition of the Purdue Report with Jake Dunn.
- 0:09[SPEAKER_02]: Join today by guest, Mike Rich, our Patreus guy who wanted to give some of his thoughts on the Boilermaker's, of course, is also a Purdue fan.
- 0:19[SPEAKER_02]: We are reacting to Purdue's tough, 79-72 victory over Iowa.
- 0:26[SPEAKER_02]: It was a rough one.
- 0:28[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's probably the most competitive game produced played all year, Jake, and it was probably the first game in the final minute we weren't exactly sure who was going to win.
- 0:39[SPEAKER_00]: I think at the certain way since the Alabama game it seems like this is the toughest game that produced played and it was a pressure win wasn't a pretty one by a strategy imagination,
- 0:56[SPEAKER_00]: pretty was able to absorb Iowa's best punch, to me, they were hot from before, especially in the first half.
- 1:04[SPEAKER_00]: They came out with a lot of confidence, they were hustling.
- 1:07[SPEAKER_00]: And Purdue was able to take that away, my line of second half, with their deepest composure and like game execution.
- 1:14[SPEAKER_00]: So Iowa was shooting like 70% from three and a half time.
- 1:21[SPEAKER_00]: And they had a few that just,
- 1:24[SPEAKER_00]: You know, got lucky rolls off the rim and just they made tough shots in the first half and that this is a kind of shooting and that's to kind of walk that can bury some teams but not pretty so I was pretty depressed at the end with produce fight for about the definitely the first half they produced it really like they wanted to be there, but they kind of woke up there shortly after half time and
- 1:54[SPEAKER_02]: Jake, I thought, been McCollum's game plan coming into this game was fantastic.
- 2:00[SPEAKER_02]: I thought he had Purdue confused, particularly Braden Smith at times in the first half.
- 2:04[SPEAKER_00]: The first half.
- 2:06[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that's what they have.
- 2:08[SPEAKER_02]: Jake, I've rarely seen a better half by a Purdue player in my life.
- 2:13[SPEAKER_02]: Just spectacular.
- 2:15[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he really took over after a pretty pedestrian first half.
- 2:20[SPEAKER_00]: to me it kind of looked like he wasn't really himself offensively and I think part of that certainly was I was game playing with him it looked like he was just trying to force passes and orchestrate rather than kind of imposes will which he did more than second half.
- 2:35[SPEAKER_00]: So I'd force this but before I felt really fell out there for him but yeah I was pretty impressed with
- 2:46[SPEAKER_00]: They're tough shot-baking and some of those lucky bounces, but they looked like, you know, for most of the game, they looked like they were out hustling Purdue, and Mackie, and that's not something that a lot of teams could say that they've done.
- 3:02[SPEAKER_00]: So they're for a little bit, I was gonna will nervous, but Purdue is able to finally get it together and a large part in the brain's myth.
- 3:10[SPEAKER_00]: I am kind of taking control there and it's saying half.
- 3:14[SPEAKER_02]: Mike Rich and Jake and I are going to talk about where Braden Smith fits in historically at Purdue, but before we get to that, I just wanted to say, I think
- 3:28[SPEAKER_02]: What looks like a lack of effort sometimes was a bit more confusion.
- 3:33[SPEAKER_02]: Iowa gave Purdue a look that they hadn't seen, that they weren't expecting, and it took a little while to solve it.
- 3:39[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, like we said, once you solved that he completely solved it, but I think Ben McCollum's going to be a problem in this league.
- 3:47[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.
- 3:48[SPEAKER_00]: He was kind of working the refs a little bit there to just like somebody else I know at the knee slanting.
- 3:53[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he may be the next version of Tom Izell in the sense of working the refs.
- 4:00[SPEAKER_00]: So it seems like he's going to be really good coach.
- 4:03[SPEAKER_00]: It's been able to get some good players on the team there and they've played, they've played some good teams pretty closely.
- 4:09[SPEAKER_00]: They played Iowa State really close, Merler in the season and they've had a couple other games.
- 4:15[SPEAKER_00]: They've played pretty
- 4:17[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, certainly looking like he's going to be a problem like what he said Part of it was just they were hitting lucky shots and produced had a huge advantage underneath both of their big men gotten Fowl trouble early a lot kind of went against Purdue and they still were able to find a way to win
- 4:36[SPEAKER_00]: Probably there was game though in this little stretch of a belief so so if had a good good stretch here and he also in foul trouble and stir its heat you have picked up a second power like within five minutes the game yet 2000 in the column set them out for a little bit just for a couple minutes and he went right back in it.
- 4:53[SPEAKER_00]: He actually should have got his third foul and towards the end of the first half he.
- 4:57[SPEAKER_00]: bump-brain Smith when he was going up for a shot and it didn't get cold.
- 5:02[SPEAKER_00]: So he got a little lucky there, but he still had his, you know, like, you know, up with 15 points, still kind of guy has numbers, but he didn't look particularly too good.
- 5:13[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here against against Purdue.
- 5:17[SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot of guys did a lot of good things, but Braiden Smith was the story of this one.
- 5:24[SPEAKER_00]: And like you said, T.K.R.
- 5:26[SPEAKER_00]: Nasser Cloth both being in Taltra, we're early that that certainly mattered.
- 5:32[SPEAKER_00]: I think they looked, especially with Oscar Cloth in this game, looked a lot better with him out on the floor.
- 5:38[SPEAKER_00]: T.K.R.
- 5:39[SPEAKER_00]: He kind of had a rough night.
- 5:41[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, but overall, pretty looked better with their bigs on the floor.
- 5:46[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I don't think they win that game without Drake often runs effort.
- 5:50[SPEAKER_02]: He did a lot of good things.
- 5:51[SPEAKER_02]: I know he was rough at times,
- 5:54[SPEAKER_02]: He did some good things there, especially at the end.
- 5:56[SPEAKER_00]: I like Tim not giving up the ball to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, to the, I will player.
- 6:01[SPEAKER_00]: And I've got a week technical foul.
- 6:02[SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen, weaker technical foul in my life than that.
- 6:04[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that, that was, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty, that was pretty
- 6:18[SPEAKER_00]: Just been play on, it shouldn't have been a tech on anybody.
- 6:23[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, and they spent five minutes for you and it was just absolutely ridiculous.
- 6:31[SPEAKER_02]: 16 more points, 8 more assists for Braden Smith, six for nine from the field, four for four at the free throw line.
- 6:39[SPEAKER_02]: Four rebounds, two steals, did just about everything right in the second half, and let's put
- 6:48[SPEAKER_02]: Braden Smith into his historical perspective.
- 6:51[SPEAKER_02]: Mike and I have been around since the Troy Lewis Todd Mitchell.
- 6:57[SPEAKER_02]: National contender teams all the way to now.
- 7:00[SPEAKER_02]: So, brought in Mike to have a little bit of a historic perspective.
- 7:03[SPEAKER_02]: But I think we're gonna have to start considering the possibility that Braden Smith leaves Purdue as their all-time greatest player Jake.
- 7:17[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was certainly be close, and I think if he wins Purdue their first national championship, I don't know if there's much of an argument to make that he's not the greatest player ever to wear a Purdue jersey, but that is a tall statement though because there have been some very good players here as we'll discuss.
- 7:38[SPEAKER_02]: I want to be clear, greatest career, greatest Purdue career.
- 7:41[SPEAKER_02]: He's definitely not a better player than Glenn Robinson was.
- 7:43[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to make it.
- 7:47[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 7:47[SPEAKER_02]: If you didn't see Glenn Robinson, you missed that.
- 7:51[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 7:51[SPEAKER_01]: You're talking about high school.
- 7:52[SPEAKER_01]: I saw him in high school.
- 7:53[SPEAKER_01]: I think Braden Smith could have leave Purdue as the having the greatest career.
- 7:59[SPEAKER_01]: And that's one he's been there for four years.
- 8:03[SPEAKER_01]: So that gives him a little bit of advantage.
- 8:05[SPEAKER_01]: I love that he's from
- 8:06[SPEAKER_01]: Westfield Indy, Matt Payner, equipment state, but he's having a fantastic career.
- 8:11[SPEAKER_01]: He's a floor general.
- 8:12[SPEAKER_01]: You wouldn't want anybody else on that team with the ball at the end of a game like this, and he just proved why he will end his career as having the best career for Purdue.
- 8:24[SPEAKER_01]: And if we get a national championship with Braden Smith, then not the team we had a couple years ago,
- 8:37[SPEAKER_01]: We deserve it, especially if Indiana University wins a damn national championship on Monday, Purdue definitely deserves a basketball national championship.
- 8:51[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I, well, going to be impossible to live with, aren't they?
- 8:54[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be awful, they are going to be absolutely awful.
- 9:00[SPEAKER_01]: Hester, that's to you, man.
- 9:05[SPEAKER_01]: Love you, Hester.
- 9:06[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
- 9:10[SPEAKER_02]: But so eight more, just the night for Braden, which moves him to.
- 9:15[SPEAKER_02]: 922 for his career.
- 9:19[SPEAKER_02]: He could pass DJ Cooper of Ohio who graduated in 2013 to move into 13th place in their next game as they go out west.
- 9:29[SPEAKER_02]: We'll preview that here in just a second.
- 9:32[SPEAKER_02]: And that puts him 17 away from the great Gary Peyton in 12th place.
- 9:39[SPEAKER_02]: Gonna be awesome to see.
- 9:44[SPEAKER_02]: If he just keeps doing a nine a game, right, Jake?
- 9:49[SPEAKER_00]: If he keeps averaging nine point eight assists a game, which I know this game yet eight, but if he maintains that average, he would break the assist most likely in the big 10 semi-finals.
- 10:00[SPEAKER_00]: So you would need seven assists in that game.
- 10:04[SPEAKER_00]: Again, keeping this nine point eight game average, that he'd break it before the March man is determined and I think that would be certainly a big, a big, way to offer shoulder.
- 10:15[SPEAKER_02]: And he is 78 assists away from being the fifth player ever with 1,000 for his career.
- 10:24[SPEAKER_02]: Can't say enough about the young man.
- 10:25[SPEAKER_02]: He is an all-timeer.
- 10:31[SPEAKER_03]: Yes he is.
- 10:32[SPEAKER_00]: And that's Mike was saying there just to mean to a lot.
- 10:36[SPEAKER_00]: Always being from Indiana for me.
- 10:38[SPEAKER_00]: And mean to a lot that, you know,
- 10:41[SPEAKER_00]: You have the potential to have the, you know, one of the greatest point guards and college basketball history, you know, from Indiana chose to stay, you know, in Indiana when go to Purdue, you know, he had opportunities to go and and leave for for, you know, more money and he and and flexor lawyer and trade confident rent all decided to, you know, to stay, they chose Purdue and chose to, you know, go and try and win a national championship with Purdue and map pain or self.
- 11:11[SPEAKER_00]: Just to add, it means a lot and that's certainly be a huge accomplishment for not only Braiden Smith, but also the Purdue as a university and Indiana as a state.
- 11:25[SPEAKER_02]: Westfield is your neighbor over there in Tippedon.
- 11:28[SPEAKER_00]: So, right down the road there in Braiden Smith, actually, when we were in high school, he played.
- 11:41[SPEAKER_01]: uh... to tipped in and and uh... kicker but sell i don't i don't even think that a game plan for for tipped i don't even be scouted us and they they still can't get it with her but uh... it sounds like how they uh... managed the first half of this game tonight they didn't have a game plan going into it uh... match i was uh... defense and but uh... they they figured it out in that second half
- 12:07[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
- 12:08[SPEAKER_02]: It was such a defensive performance in the first half.
- 12:12[SPEAKER_02]: And then the second half, what was it?
- 12:13[SPEAKER_02]: 13 times in a row down the court, the team scored.
- 12:18[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're completely flipped half time.
- 12:20[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there was a run there of 11 combined.
- 12:24[SPEAKER_00]: made shots in a row.
- 12:26[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it was pretty crazy to see Purdue to your point.
- 12:29[SPEAKER_00]: So half can have turned on the defense.
- 12:31[SPEAKER_00]: And I really got a boost from those lifeball turnovers that Purdue is able to score off of and that really kind of flipped the game and produced favored.
- 12:39[SPEAKER_00]: So Chicago Harris was a big part of that.
- 12:43[SPEAKER_00]: He's his on-ball pressure.
- 12:44[SPEAKER_00]: And like you said, we're getting ready to steal our two.
- 12:46[SPEAKER_00]: Dana Jacobson was obviously his length and deterrent at the rim.
- 12:52[SPEAKER_00]: plays a big factor in there as well as has is pressed on the boards and great Smith.
- 12:56[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's just ahead of the snake on both sides of the ball really whenever he's playing strong defense.
- 13:02[SPEAKER_00]: I felt the at the rest of the team is as well and he's just so good at you know, pestering you know, the other players and and the crowd and there's multiple times where he was getting the crowd, he jumped up and it's great to see it.
- 13:17[SPEAKER_00]: He's good at making reads and
- 13:22[SPEAKER_00]: When that would prove to be able to force those turnovers, it really kind of slowed.
- 13:26[SPEAKER_00]: I was really down and eventually that Mackie Crowd, Mackie Crowd, woke up, so there for a little bit in the first half, it seems to seem pretty quiet, but then it's going to have that 100 street still out, but you know, finally mattered and I think made a difference in the game.
- 13:49[SPEAKER_02]: And now they go out west and neither US or UCLA is very good, but neither one of them is bad.
- 13:58[SPEAKER_02]: Both are gonna be pretty decent test Jake.
- 14:01[SPEAKER_02]: What are you expecting to see Saturday against USC and then at UCLA on Tuesday?
- 14:07[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think we'll kind of see more of more of what we saw here in its Washington, Benstie, and Iowa, and every team is going to get up for Purdue, and everybody knows Purdue is the kind of the one to beat here in the big tin conference.
- 14:25[SPEAKER_00]: So every team is going to get up and you know, want to play their best game against Purdue, and so they will see seem more of the sound.
- 14:32[SPEAKER_00]: I still think Purdue is going to win these games, but I think it'll be
- 14:37[SPEAKER_00]: and once that, you know, Purdue can can look back on later in the season and and learn from.
- 14:45[SPEAKER_02]: Six of the next eight away from home, Mike, including trips to Iowa, Nebraska, Indiana, Maryland, USC, UCLA, and those eight games, Mike, what's their record going to be?
- 15:09[SPEAKER_01]: Jake ain't no, did I hear right now?
- 15:12[SPEAKER_00]: I wish that you've coloneled some tough ones.
- 15:15[SPEAKER_00]: If they play Iowa, I would play as like they did tonight.
- 15:18[SPEAKER_00]: I think that could be one that they drop in Nebraska, if they keep playing like they've been playing, I think that one could be a loss.
- 15:25[SPEAKER_00]: Also have I used Luxfairly decent this year, at least at home.
- 15:30[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously that that thought it could be a close game.
- 15:32[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm gonna say six and two of the next eight.
- 15:37[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, Jake, I'll take the over of the chair.
- 15:40[SPEAKER_02]: What the hell is in Nebraska and I would, man.
- 15:45[SPEAKER_02]: All right, we'll figure it out.
- 15:46[SPEAKER_01]: I do not like that.
- 15:48[SPEAKER_01]: That's a tough road trip.
- 15:49[SPEAKER_01]: That is.
- 15:50[SPEAKER_01]: Nebraska, then Iowa.
- 15:52[SPEAKER_01]: Michigan home is the next one.
- 15:55[SPEAKER_00]: Illinois, Illinois is not going to lay down for me, there's so that Illinois game is after the West Coast road trip.
- 16:04[SPEAKER_00]: There's a chance he could be a little sluggish coming back from that trip and obviously that's a big game.
- 16:10[SPEAKER_00]: One that Purdue really needs to win.
- 16:12[SPEAKER_00]: These games against the IOS, the USC is UCLA's content.
- 16:18[SPEAKER_00]: Those are kind of inferior opponents.
- 16:22[SPEAKER_00]: That affords Purdue to lose a game at IU or at home against Michigan.
- 16:33[SPEAKER_00]: You know, taking care of business, winning the games at home, you know, beating that these opponents are supposed to be, um, that it that afford you some more against later on in the season to still, you know, being contingent there for the big 10 race.
- 16:44[SPEAKER_02]: How could you forget Indiana is one of the inferior opponents?
- 16:49[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't, uh, didn't want to call him out there, but, uh, to make it.
- 16:52[SPEAKER_00]: Those, those games are usually pretty close.
- 16:54[SPEAKER_00]: Um, uh, I use a pretty volatile team, um, their, I feel like they're either, you know,
- 17:00[SPEAKER_00]: top top 20 worthy or they're like barely making the tournament worthy.
- 17:05[SPEAKER_00]: So I just kind of kind of depends on the night so I think they could definitely give a pretty run for their money and obviously the crowd's going to be jumped up for that game.
- 17:16[SPEAKER_01]: and damn Bloomington Hoosiers I who they're going to have the national championship football team there and recognizing them that night probably to just give it just more electricity and that crowd and I am looking forward to that game.
- 17:37[SPEAKER_01]: I'm definitely looking forward to the
- 17:44[SPEAKER_02]: You said eight games with the ninth game is Michigan right and then in the end at home their Michigan state of hope The big kids not easy.
- 17:53[SPEAKER_02]: I still think I still think I still think Purdue goes 911 in that stretch From what I saw tonight If they're against the ropes Braidens Smith can bail them out just extremely resilient no panic and was able to
- 18:13[SPEAKER_01]: make adjustments at halftime, and did what they needed to do.
- 18:18[SPEAKER_01]: Just business is usual for this team, hopefully they can just continue with that kind of plan and take that all the way through the rest of the season.
- 18:28[SPEAKER_01]: I think you had them, did you have them losing a game this season when we did the preseason pick?
- 18:33[SPEAKER_01]: Of course not!
- 18:34[SPEAKER_01]: They've already lost more and more than I predicted Mike.
- 18:39[SPEAKER_01]: So you're wrong.
- 18:42[SPEAKER_02]: Mike, I'm never wrong, I just adjust.
- 18:48[SPEAKER_02]: Jake that turn around baseline jumper tonight by Braden Smith that didn't touch anything, but net was was an MBA shot.
- 18:56[SPEAKER_00]: For sure, he's really shown.
- 18:59[SPEAKER_00]: Here are the past couple of games that he has a spot in the NBA and he's just so good at that baseline.
- 19:07[SPEAKER_00]: Turn around jumper and really his is kind of pull up mid-range jumper.
- 19:13[SPEAKER_00]: He tends to fade on those a little bit too.
- 19:15[SPEAKER_00]: Those are not automatic, but they're pretty close to automatic.
- 19:20[SPEAKER_00]: So he's been a lot of work in a lot of time with those shots and that's certainly paid off here in the games.
- 19:27[SPEAKER_02]: Before we go, Mike, I just want to bring up a name that you may not remember, and this is who Braden Smith reminds me of Scott Skiles from Michigan State.
- 19:37[SPEAKER_02]: A guy whose toughness nails made all the right shots, made all the right plays, and Braden Smith's even better.
- 19:43[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.
- 19:47[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, Scott's got to what about a decade in the NBA as well.
- 19:50[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 19:52[SPEAKER_02]: Still holds the record for assistant again.
- 19:55[SPEAKER_01]: New Skiles.
- 19:58[SPEAKER_01]: how many, how many?
- 19:59[SPEAKER_01]: 30.
- 20:00[SPEAKER_01]: 30 assists in a college game?
- 20:03[SPEAKER_01]: No NBA.
- 20:05[SPEAKER_01]: NBA, okay.
- 20:07[SPEAKER_01]: That's still pretty impressive.
- 20:09[SPEAKER_01]: No kidding.
- 20:10[SPEAKER_01]: And you're saying that Braden Smith, you feel as better than Scott Scott's.
- 20:16[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, go watch some film of Scott's
- 20:26[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know the name, I know that he's a really good passer, but I haven't seen any, any film one have.
- 20:34[SPEAKER_02]: Plamous very own, go watch his high school championship game.
- 20:38[SPEAKER_02]: It play him as a because it's the most unbelievable thing to lose.
- 20:41[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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