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Hour 2: Definition of a REAL ID in NJ. · The Mark Simone Show

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Speaker 1: Now the Mark Simone Show on seven to ten, or
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Speaker 1: filling in for Mark, here's Ken Rosatto.
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Speaker 2: It's nice to be with you on such a beautiful Saturday.
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Speaker 3: I did?
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Speaker 2: Let's start again, take two, pretend that never went on
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Speaker 2: But yes, Saturday is going to beautiful too, And except
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Speaker 2: right now, Ken Rosato in for the wonderful Mark Simone
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Speaker 2: and I can't wait. I got a lot to talk
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Speaker 2: about today. Phone lines are open at eight hundred three
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Speaker 2: two one zero seven ten. Love to hear what you
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Speaker 2: have to say for those who are wondering what are
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Speaker 2: you doing these days? Ken? You know I spent twenty
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Speaker 2: years at Channel seven. I was at Channel five before then.
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Speaker 2: Now nowadays I'm on a channel called on New Jersey
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Speaker 2: ONNJ dot com and you can stream it from anywhere
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Speaker 2: if you want to check that out. But that's when
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Speaker 2: you have listened to wor twenty hours straight and you
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Speaker 2: want to get a minute of something different. That's what
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Speaker 2: you could do. Otherwise, stay right here. Well, have you
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Speaker 2: listened to the news lately and heard about the governor
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Speaker 2: of New York, Kathy Hochl, And all you've heard in
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Speaker 2: the last couple of months is, oh, she's like ten
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Speaker 2: twenty points ahead of Bruce Blakeman, who is a NASA
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Speaker 2: Kenny executive, great guy, amazing politician, just a brilliant man.
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Speaker 2: And he is of course running as a Republican for
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Speaker 2: governor in New York State. Well, there was just a
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Speaker 2: poll out that showed that he went from about fifteen
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Speaker 2: to twenty points behind Kathy Hokel. And a lot of
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Speaker 2: that has to do with name recognition. You know, when
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Speaker 2: you get like one two three thousand people called the
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Speaker 2: first name that you hear that you recognize, you tend
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Speaker 2: to say, oh, yeah, I'd be likely to support that persons.
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Speaker 2: Why because their name sounds familiar. If it's a name
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Speaker 2: that isn't familiar to you, then you don't necessarily feel
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Speaker 2: like you want to support that person. In the case
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Speaker 2: of Bruce Blakeman, people in the lower third of New
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Speaker 2: York State have heard of him more than likely. But
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Speaker 2: you go up to Buffalo, where Kathy Hochle is from,
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Speaker 2: you go to Syracuse, or they don't know what a
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Speaker 2: Bruce Blakeman is, but they're starting to learn and they're
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Speaker 2: starting to like what they see in Bruce Blakeman. So
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Speaker 2: the latest poll, and it's a very accurate one, it's
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Speaker 2: an internal poll, shows that Bruce Blakeman is about four
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Speaker 2: points behind Kathy Hokel with what ten weeks to go
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Speaker 2: before the election, and that the independence there are still
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Speaker 2: about ten percent undecided. So there's a good chance that
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Speaker 2: Bruce Blakeman can pull this off. Yet, if you had
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Speaker 2: asked three or four months ago, anybody worth their salt
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Speaker 2: would have said, there's no way Bruce Blakeman can beat
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Speaker 2: Kathy Hokele. Now rite this moment and remember polls or
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Speaker 2: snapshots in history. But based on what we know right now,
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Speaker 2: Bruce Blakeman could very well win if the election were
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Speaker 2: held today. It is very possible that Bruce Blakeman could
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Speaker 2: be the next governor of New York. So we'll see
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Speaker 2: what happens in November. But it takes people showing up
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Speaker 2: and voting. You gotta make sure you don't say, like
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Speaker 2: a lot of people say, I only vote for President Rosatto,
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Speaker 2: I don't go on vote for the Congress. What have
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Speaker 2: I only vote for president?
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Speaker 4: What is it?
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Speaker 2: Though? They call them day the senators, I don't vote
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Speaker 2: for them. You have to vote. You have to vote.
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Speaker 2: What else are you going to be doing? Okay, get
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Speaker 2: up and vote. Go out and vote. If you have
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Speaker 2: to vote absent D, vote absent D. But make sure
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Speaker 2: you vote. And if you're not registered, call today, go
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Speaker 2: down to your election headquarters and your county and whatnot,
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Speaker 2: and go make sure you have your paperwork in and
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Speaker 2: you are ready legally to vote.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 2: You don't want to find out on election day that,
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Speaker 2: oh I haven't voted ten years and therefore I can't
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Speaker 2: go and make sure you can and vote. Very very important. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: we talked about this a little while ago in the
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Speaker 2: Garden State. Governor Mikey Cheryl the fraud as I like
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Speaker 2: to call her, doing everything in her power to keep
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Speaker 2: the FEDS from seeing the Garden State's voter rolls. And
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Speaker 2: we just had a guest down a little while ago,
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Speaker 2: Mike Kelly, who is with North Jersey dot com. He's
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Speaker 2: a columnist for the Record and for USA Today, and
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Speaker 2: some of the things we talked about. Number one, again,
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Speaker 2: Mikey Cheryl deciding that yes, in spite of the fact
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Speaker 2: that there are known sixty six hundred people who registered
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Speaker 2: to vote in New Jersey who were illegal aliens and
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Speaker 2: should not have registered, and there were four hundred who
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Speaker 2: definitely cast their ballots who should not have done so.
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Speaker 2: In spite of that, Mikey Cheryl refuses to hand over
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Speaker 2: the voter role information. She says, we'll have our own investigation.
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Speaker 2: Oh you mean you the party that it caused this.
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Speaker 2: You the Democrat party that resulted in tens of millions
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Speaker 2: of illegal migrants walking in across the border. You the
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Speaker 2: party that refuses to let Republicans kick them out. You
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Speaker 2: the party that doesn't let us prosecute when they commit crimes.
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Speaker 2: You the party that doesn't like to talk about it
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Speaker 2: when they kill people like a nungary, rape and murder
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Speaker 2: and pillage thousands of people over the last few years.
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Speaker 2: You who lie about the fact that illegals commit more
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Speaker 2: crimes than non illegals in this country by saying, can
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Speaker 2: there are no statistics showing that illegal migrants commit more crimes?
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Speaker 2: Then again, of course the Democrats who run the big
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Speaker 2: cities where the illegals congregate. Those big cities, by law,
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Speaker 2: do not collect data on illegals. When a police officer
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Speaker 2: arrests somebody in New York City, they aren't even allowed
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Speaker 2: to ask if they're here illegally. So therefore, how do
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Speaker 2: you know if illegals are committing more or less crimes?
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Speaker 2: You don't know, And that's the intent, that's the way
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Speaker 2: you set it up, and you think we're all stupid. Fortunately,
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Speaker 2: members of the media are sick ofphants, and they just
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Speaker 2: go along with it because it's part of the agenda
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Speaker 2: for you, and they don't ask you questions like, well,
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Speaker 2: if you're not prosecuting illegals, or if you're not asking
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Speaker 2: people if they're here illegally, how do we know if
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Speaker 2: illegals are committing more crimes or fewer than citizens. No,
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Speaker 2: you just sit on this statistic that is artificially created
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Speaker 2: and say that illegals are committing fewer crimes, just like
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Speaker 2: the same fake statistic that says that crime is down
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Speaker 2: in big cities around the country like New York, when
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Speaker 2: you have people like Alvin Bragg who refuse to prosecute
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Speaker 2: two thirds of the crimes on the books by his
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Speaker 2: own admission in his own paperwork when he first took office.
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Speaker 2: If you don't prosecute two thirds of the crimes as crimes,
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Speaker 2: crime will look like it's down on paper year to year.
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Speaker 2: Yet I never hear people talking about that. We're all
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Speaker 2: supposed to be stupid and accepted. Oh, look, crime is down.
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Speaker 2: Democrats must be doing something right. Yeah, they're not prosecuted crime.
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Speaker 2: That's why crime looks like it's down. If I light
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Speaker 2: fires all over the place, but I refuse to report
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Speaker 2: them from this point forward as fires, suddenly it'll look
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Speaker 2: like fire is down when two thirds of the earth
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Speaker 2: is burning. And that's what's happening in Democrat run cities
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Speaker 2: right now, folks. Sorry, I'm ranting. Eight hundred three two
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Speaker 2: one zero seven ten the number to call. You're listening
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Speaker 2: to the Mark Simone show, Ken Rozotto Win from Mark
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Speaker 2: on a beautiful Friday, and we are talking again about
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Speaker 2: Mikey Cheryl. So let's get back to that topic, Mikey Cheryl,
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Speaker 2: the governor of New Jersey. One of the issues is,
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Speaker 2: of course, the MVC, which is the New Jersey answer
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Speaker 2: to the DMV. Why they decided, you know, in typical
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Speaker 2: Democrat fashion, when something is broken doesn't work right, just
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Speaker 2: change the name. If you have communists running things and
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Speaker 2: everything falls apart and it requires killing millions of people,
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Speaker 2: so they get a bad name. Let's change it to
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Speaker 2: the let's call it Democratic Socialist of America. That has
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Speaker 2: a nice ring. So now you have the word America
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Speaker 2: in there. It makes it sound like it's good, proud, red,
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Speaker 2: white and blue. It's America. No, it's communist. That's what
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Speaker 2: it is. Just by another name. It is communist. So
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Speaker 2: in Mikey Cheryl's case, Mikey Cheryl said that there were
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Speaker 2: sixty six hundred people that we know who voted who
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Speaker 2: shouldn't have voted. Well, the way it's set up in
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Speaker 2: New Jersey, when you get your driver's license, you are
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Speaker 2: automatically registered to vote, which in and of itself is ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: When I go buy a quarter milk, I shouldn't automatically
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Speaker 2: get a car. I just want a quarter milk. Why
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Speaker 2: are you telling me that you're going to grant me
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Speaker 2: this extraordinary privilege just because I get a driver's license.
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Speaker 2: That's just ridiculous. So of course you knew this was
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Speaker 2: going to happen. I remember California first doing this in
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Speaker 2: the nineteen nineties when they first allowed illegal aliens to
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Speaker 2: have driver's licenses. I remember the big argument from Republicans
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Speaker 2: was that they wanted the driver's licenses carefully noted that
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Speaker 2: the person who had the license was an illegal alien.
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Speaker 2: They wanted that on the license. But the liberals in
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Speaker 2: California shouted loudly, no, that ostracizes them. That's not fair,
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Speaker 2: they'll be discriminated against. Well, sure, they're not entitled to
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Speaker 2: the privilege of a driver's license. We are not all
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Speaker 2: entitled to a driver's license. It is not a right,
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Speaker 2: it is a privilege. So if citizens are not granted
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Speaker 2: that as a right, but a privilege, why should someone
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Speaker 2: here illegally you get it as a right. So if
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Speaker 2: you're going to have the joy and glory of having
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Speaker 2: a driver's license when you're not a citizen, then why
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Speaker 2: not deal with the fact that there'll be a little
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Speaker 2: mark on there so that the police know you're not
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Speaker 2: a citizen. Aha, this was all part of the Democrat plan.
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Speaker 2: This was so that eventually you could get these people
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Speaker 2: to be able to intermingle with citizens and nobody would
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Speaker 2: know the difference. That is exactly what has happened. So
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Speaker 2: now what happens years later? We had nine to eleven,
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Speaker 2: and after nine to eleven, everybody still needed their idea
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Speaker 2: to get around, right, But you didn't know if that
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Speaker 2: driver's license now indicated that you were a citizen or not.
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Speaker 2: So ninety five percent of us had to go spend money,
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Speaker 2: go down to the DMV, take time off from work,
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Speaker 2: present tons of ID in order to get what real ID. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the Democrats don't like to talk about the fact that
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Speaker 2: it's because they gave our driver's licenses to illegal aliens
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Speaker 2: and did not specially denote those licenses as being those
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Speaker 2: of illegal aliens. You and I had to go get
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Speaker 2: a second license on our time with our money. That
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Speaker 2: was a real ID. We wouldn't have had to have
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Speaker 2: a real ID if not for the Liberals giving driver
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Speaker 2: licenses to illegal aliens, or if they would have just
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Speaker 2: marked them as a driver's license for an illegal alien,
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Speaker 2: then our ID would have all been real ID. But no,
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Speaker 2: we had to now get real ID, which is kind
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Speaker 2: of the same whole point, but instead of them having
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Speaker 2: to have the mark on their license that they're illegal,
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Speaker 2: we had to get a mark on our license saying
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Speaker 2: that we're legal. Do you get it? This is all
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Speaker 2: Democrat run, This is all liberal run. But they never
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Speaker 2: talked about that, and no member of the sikaphat leftist media,
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Speaker 2: the mainstream media said a word about it. When you
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Speaker 2: talk to people who are in the media, they shoved
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Speaker 2: their arms up and they go, so, what, what's a
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Speaker 2: big deal? What's the big deal? You say that people
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Speaker 2: shouldn't have to show ID because people in poorer communities
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Speaker 2: don't necessarily have ID and it is difficult for them
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Speaker 2: to go downtown and get it. But then you have
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Speaker 2: no problem with those of us who have to go
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Speaker 2: downtown and get a new ID because illegals have ID
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Speaker 2: when they shouldn't. And now it's no big deal for us,
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Speaker 2: but it is a big deal for poor people. Huh Okay,
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Speaker 2: there's always a double standard. Without a double standard, liberals
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Speaker 2: would have no standards at all. Eight hundred three to
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Speaker 2: two one zero seven ten, eight hundred three to two
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Speaker 2: one zero seven ten and just to wrap things up
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Speaker 2: in Jersey, Mikey Cheryl doesn't want to show those voter
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Speaker 2: rolls to the federal government. And now, we don't think
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Speaker 2: that there are only sixty six hundred people who are
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Speaker 2: illegally registered to vote. The federal government has information suggesting
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Speaker 2: there are as many as thirty five thousand, and the
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Speaker 2: Republicans in the state of New Jersey say there are
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Speaker 2: as many as eighty thousand illegal aliens who are registered
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Speaker 2: to vote. Where do they get that number from? Last year?
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Speaker 2: Apparently eighty thousand responses came in for people who were
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Speaker 2: called to jury duty in the state of New Jersey,
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Speaker 2: and they get the names for jurors potential jurors from
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Speaker 2: driver's licenses and people registered to vote. So eighty thousand
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Speaker 2: people responded, no, I'm sorry, I must be excused from
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Speaker 2: jury duty because I am not a US citizen. Both then,
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Speaker 2: if you're not a US citizen, why are you on
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Speaker 2: our list as being eligible to vote? Uh huh. And
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Speaker 2: that's why the Republicans in New Jersey and the Republicans
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Speaker 2: in the federal government are demanding to see New Jersey's
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Speaker 2: voter rolls. It ain't sixty six hundred where there's smoke,
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Speaker 2: there's fire, and if we know of sixty six hundred,
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Speaker 2: it's likely more like six hundred sixty thousand. Don't fool yourself.
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Speaker 2: We know of at least nine hundred thousand illegals being
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Speaker 2: in the state of New Jersey right now, and I
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Speaker 2: bet you the vast majority are registered to vote. We
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Speaker 2: will take your calls. Eight hundred three to two one
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Speaker 1: The Mark Simone Show on seven to ten wor filling
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Speaker 1: in for Mark. Here again is Ken rose Oude.
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Speaker 2: It's good to be with you. On a beautiful Friday,
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Speaker 2: I got a call for my mother. She said, gosh,
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Speaker 2: you're in a terrible mood. I said, sorry, Ma, I've
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Speaker 2: been moving for the last two weeks, so forgive me
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Speaker 2: for being a little grumpy. Let's go to Vincent Fort Pierce, Florida.
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Speaker 2: Good boarding to Evince, Yeah, good morning.
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Speaker 5: You know, when I was on hold, I couldn't hear
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Speaker 5: anybody else, so I don't know if anybody else brought
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Speaker 5: this up. But let me clarify what your guests didn't
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Speaker 5: get right. It's the voter motor Bill was passed in
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Speaker 5: nineteen ninety three by Bill Clinton. That was the first
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Speaker 5: thing he did where you have to you can register
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Speaker 5: to vote when you get a driver's license. And that
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Speaker 5: was the last time states like California, which was a
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Speaker 5: solid Republican state, voted Republican. And they knew exactly what
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Speaker 5: they were doing. They did this intentionally, and back then
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Speaker 5: they didn't knowing, you know, outwardly allow illegal aliens, but
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Speaker 5: they were certainly allowing them. I remember I was living
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Speaker 5: in Jersey when they passed it, my wife couldn't get
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Speaker 5: a driver's license with every imaginable We moved back and
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Speaker 5: she had had a state and the marriage license thing. Well,
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Speaker 5: I saw people walking up there in ninety four with
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Speaker 5: crumbled up pieces of paper from a third world country.
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Speaker 5: They went and got them an interpreter, and they didn't
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Speaker 5: you know, and obviously they must have signed up to vote.
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Speaker 5: So this has been going on for a long time.
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Speaker 5: And if anybody doesn't understand why Murphy did it, they're
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Speaker 5: either lying or they're pretty far out there. Murphy did
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Speaker 5: it when he saw Joe Biden allow or invite millions
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Speaker 5: of illegal aliens into the country. That's when he said, oh,
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Speaker 5: let's give them a license. Knowingly give them a license.
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Speaker 5: I mean they were giving them out anyway. But what
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Speaker 5: needs to happen is they need to eliminate they need
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Speaker 5: to repeal the voter motor Bill. But they also need
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Speaker 5: to stop reciprocity with states that give illegal aliens a
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Speaker 5: driver's life, because we've seen what's going on all over
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Speaker 5: the country with truck drivers. There was just another story
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Speaker 5: in Minnesota and an illegal alien was driving for a company.
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Speaker 5: They called him in to pay his parking tickets, ended
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Speaker 5: up shooting the boss, the boss's wife, the secretary. I mean,
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Speaker 5: it's insanity, Vince.
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Speaker 2: Did you see the staff that almost one in three
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Speaker 2: commercial driver's licenses is held by an illegal alia. I
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Speaker 2: could see there's one in twenty one in three. That's obscene.
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Speaker 5: They really need to stop. They need to stop the
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Speaker 5: reciprocity between states. If your state's going to allow that,
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Speaker 5: then another state shouldn't allow them to come into there
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Speaker 5: with with an illegal alien driver's license. It's insane.
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Speaker 2: There was a US, Vince, you and your darn logic,
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Speaker 2: I know they were.
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Speaker 5: The first one was right near my house in Florida,
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Speaker 5: where an illegal alien tried to make a U turn
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Speaker 5: on the turnpike and a car went right underneath him
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Speaker 5: and killed like five people.
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Speaker 2: I mean, National News remember that, and remember we had
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Speaker 2: the video of the man's face and he was like
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Speaker 2: unfazed by it.
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Speaker 5: Him and his partner didn't even blink an eye.
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Speaker 2: It's crazy.
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's just that's the way it is, and
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Speaker 5: it shouldn't listen.
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Speaker 2: I remember when I was sixteen and I got my
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Speaker 2: junior license, I was told, I was lectured that a
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Speaker 2: driver's license is not a right, it is a privilege.
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Speaker 2: So if it's a privilege for a tax paying US citizen,
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Speaker 2: why is it just automatically handed out to somebody who's
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Speaker 2: here illegally. And I'm done with.
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Speaker 5: It, by the way, one question, By the way, day
18:32
Speaker 5: after nine to eleven, New Jersey instituted this six point
18:36
Speaker 5: policy when you renewed your driver's license, you had to
18:39
Speaker 5: add six forms.
18:40
Speaker 4: Of I D.
18:41
Speaker 5: What happened to that?
18:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, good question. Democrats happened to that, Vince. I appreciate you,
18:47
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Well, let's go to somebody in
18:48
Speaker 2: New Jersey. Here's Chris and trenton. Good morning Chris.
18:52
Speaker 6: Yeah, hi, a long time listener to Mark Smooth. Two
18:57
Speaker 6: points very excuse me, important from you're at in New Jersey.
19:01
Speaker 6: Number one, Murphy put into the law that you have
19:05
Speaker 6: to opt out. So everybody comes in for a license,
19:09
Speaker 6: they're automatically signed up to vote, but you get a
19:13
Speaker 6: letter in a mail I don't know, weeks later to
19:15
Speaker 6: ask if you want to opt out of registration. The
19:18
Speaker 6: problem is illegals they lived in an apartment for a
19:22
Speaker 6: couple of weeks in a league, and they also often
19:24
Speaker 6: give s fictitious addresses.
19:27
Speaker 2: And how many times do you go through all how
19:29
Speaker 2: many times I don't mean to step on you, Chris,
19:30
Speaker 2: do you go through all your mail? Sometimes it looks
19:33
Speaker 2: like junk mail. The concept that you would automatically be
19:36
Speaker 2: a registered to vote and you have to opt out
19:39
Speaker 2: is obscene. That's like you ought. That's like if a
19:41
Speaker 2: company said you automatically have to give us one hundred
19:44
Speaker 2: dollars because you left your house this morning, and you
19:47
Speaker 2: have to opt out of that. Why would you do that?
19:49
Speaker 2: It's clear reactive exactly.
19:51
Speaker 6: That was Murphy's Murphy put that in there. Maybe it
19:54
Speaker 6: was a preemptive move to cut off Chitdarelli from getting
19:57
Speaker 6: elected because a new election was going to be close.
20:00
Speaker 6: One other thing I wanted to say real quick was
20:03
Speaker 6: we had too races on city council that were determined
20:08
Speaker 6: by one boat. It came down to one boat. And
20:11
Speaker 6: I'm sure to across the state of New Jersey on
20:14
Speaker 6: council races at the grass roots level, that's what you have.
20:18
Speaker 2: And that's why the idea, the idea of four hundred
20:20
Speaker 2: people illegally casting their votes is just obscene. Thank you
20:24
Speaker 2: so much, or appreciate the call. We go to Mike
20:26
Speaker 2: and Portchester with a minute left. Good morning, Mike, Good
20:29
Speaker 2: morning again.
20:30
Speaker 4: Listen. The reason why I called was because of the
20:33
Speaker 4: spouchy business. And I called because Gordon Chang a while
20:39
Speaker 4: back said some really scary stuff like a designer virus,
20:44
Speaker 4: you know, that would attack our genal you know, Americans
20:50
Speaker 4: or whites or whatever and ignore the Chinese.
20:55
Speaker 7: You know.
20:56
Speaker 2: Well, clearly it didn't work this time. Everybody got sick,
21:01
Speaker 2: no matter what your nationality or ethnicity. But the idea
21:05
Speaker 2: that we would have been and if you heard Larry
21:07
Speaker 2: Mensi with such passion talking about this this morning, Larry
21:10
Speaker 2: and curtis the idea that we would have been in
21:13
Speaker 2: some way behind this, I say we was. Anthony Fauci. Well,
21:17
Speaker 2: by the way, let me just mention. I went to
21:19
Speaker 2: the same high school Anthony Fauci, doctor Fauci, and I
21:22
Speaker 2: went to Regis High School here in Manhattan. He was
21:24
Speaker 2: atle older than me. Obviously I'm only fifty nine, but
21:27
Speaker 2: I had met him a number of times at fundraisers
21:30
Speaker 2: at the school. I've had a bunch of conversations with him,
21:32
Speaker 2: I've interviewed him, and I worked over at Channel seven.
21:35
Speaker 2: Anthony Fauci started out as a somewhat arrogant guy and
21:39
Speaker 2: became a totally stuck up ass as time went on
21:43
Speaker 2: during the entire pandemic. And the fact that we now
21:48
Speaker 2: see his diary, which he stupidly wrote on government computers
21:54
Speaker 2: and stored on government servers, which is why we now
21:57
Speaker 2: have the diary. And by the way, he doesn't deny
21:59
Speaker 2: that it's a diary. He never did. The fact that
22:02
Speaker 2: we now have it and it displays for the world
22:05
Speaker 2: to see how as Rome was burning, he was fiddling.
22:08
Speaker 2: And it has to give you an idea of all
22:10
Speaker 2: those people who thought that Anthony Fauci was a hero.
22:13
Speaker 2: What an absolute ass and total negligent moron. He was
22:18
Speaker 2: sorry to be such a downer right there. Seven to
22:20
Speaker 2: ten Wor the Voice of New York. We are going
22:23
Speaker 2: to be talking about doctor Favci in just a few
22:25
Speaker 2: minutes with somebody very special, and that is Jesse Weber.
22:29
Speaker 2: So don't go away.
22:30
Speaker 1: The Mark Simone Show Live from the Woor Life Back
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22:37
Speaker 2: Here's Ken Roseio, so nice to be with you on
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Speaker 2: a beautiful Friday. The last two hour Mark Simone Show
22:44
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Speaker 2: to noon. Don't miss that. Got to hear the great
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Speaker 2: Mark Simone three hours. Well, you know, if you've been
22:53
Speaker 2: paying attention to what's going on with doctor Anthony Fauci
22:56
Speaker 2: and Ran Paul calling him into the Senate for rings,
23:00
Speaker 2: some of the stuff that was well announced in the
23:03
Speaker 2: Senate was pretty shocking for a lot of people. The
23:05
Speaker 2: idea that doctor Fauci had spent his couple of years
23:09
Speaker 2: that well, he's been working for the federal government for decades,
23:12
Speaker 2: but the couple of years during the COVID pandemic while
23:15
Speaker 2: the rest of us were suffering and locked in a house,
23:18
Speaker 2: he was hobnobbing with major celebrities. We do we have
23:22
Speaker 2: it up. We got it up, all right.
23:24
Speaker 8: This is a thrill for me because there are very
23:26
Speaker 8: few experts of anything in the world, I think, and
23:30
Speaker 8: you truly have emerged as a personal hero for me.
23:34
Speaker 8: Just to have this little corner of your time for
23:37
Speaker 8: us is such a joy.
23:39
Speaker 2: And that is Julia Roberts, by the way, talking about him.
23:42
Speaker 2: Every celebrity who would come on, remember everybody went on
23:44
Speaker 2: zoom mambe these little zoom calls. Everybody went on zoom
23:48
Speaker 2: and just just gushed about him. Here was Governor Cuomo.
23:51
Speaker 9: I said that as soon as the vaccine is deemed
23:55
Speaker 9: ready and safe, I'll be the first one to take
23:57
Speaker 9: a vaccine. Maybe we in list you. I'll do it
24:01
Speaker 9: with you. We'll do an ad telling New Yorkers it's
24:03
Speaker 9: safe to take the vaccine.
24:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I had that work out. Everybody was forced
24:08
Speaker 2: to take the vaccine, and then everybody still got sick. Well, anyway,
24:12
Speaker 2: we talked about doctor Fauchi a lot here on the
24:16
Speaker 2: air in the last couple of days, and now he's
24:18
Speaker 2: come out as a very self absorbed stardom seeker. Let
24:22
Speaker 2: us go on the phone right now to Jesse Weber,
24:24
Speaker 2: news Nation's chief legal analyst, host of Jesse Weber Live.
24:27
Speaker 2: He joins us this morning. Good morning to.
24:29
Speaker 3: Jesse, good morning, thanks for having me.
24:32
Speaker 2: Well, it is amazing to see this man, doctor Fauci,
24:36
Speaker 2: whom I've met. I'm sure you probably met. I met
24:38
Speaker 2: him a bunch of times. We went to the same
24:40
Speaker 2: high school at different times, but we used to show
24:43
Speaker 2: up for charitable fundraisers there all the time, and I
24:46
Speaker 2: just just remember feeling this sense of condescension from him
24:50
Speaker 2: every time I met him, and now it comes out
24:52
Speaker 2: on full display. What did you make of the whole
24:54
Speaker 2: Senate hearing?
24:55
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I wasn't surprised that you weren't
24:58
Speaker 3: in the same graduating class. You're a young guy. But look,
25:02
Speaker 3: I will tell you from an optics point of view. Look,
25:05
Speaker 3: I think it's a little more nuanced. But I think
25:07
Speaker 3: from an optics point of view, when you couple what
25:09
Speaker 3: happened in the last week, right the diary entries, and
25:13
Speaker 3: then him fleeting the fifth, a lot of people will
25:15
Speaker 3: look at that and say, my gosh, doesn't look great.
25:17
Speaker 3: Looks guilty, looks doesn't look good. Now, when you get
25:20
Speaker 3: into the granular aspect of and you think about what
25:23
Speaker 3: is his legal concerns and his legal risks, I got
25:26
Speaker 3: to say, from a legal point of view, I'm not
25:27
Speaker 3: surprised that he pled the fifth And if I was
25:30
Speaker 3: representing him, I probably would have recommended the same thing.
25:32
Speaker 3: And I can explain why, because there's two different conversations
25:35
Speaker 3: right to the optics of it. And I will tell
25:38
Speaker 3: you from an American public point of view, and I
25:41
Speaker 3: think there is a strong appetite to still understand what
25:44
Speaker 3: happened during the COVID nineteen pandemic and its response. If
25:48
Speaker 3: they he would have been granted immunity. What do I
25:51
Speaker 3: mean if he would have been granted immunity to testify
25:54
Speaker 3: that nothing he said during that hearing could be used
25:57
Speaker 3: against him in any criminal proceeding. I would have liked
26:00
Speaker 3: to know. I would have liked to hear what he
26:02
Speaker 3: would have said. I would have liked to hear his answers.
26:04
Speaker 3: I wanted substantive information about the COVID response, and unfortunately
26:08
Speaker 3: what we were left with is no response. So I
26:10
Speaker 3: think we, the American people, lost out on that. But
26:12
Speaker 3: from a legal point of view, I'm not surprised he
26:15
Speaker 3: pled the fifth even though optically I didn't look bad.
26:17
Speaker 3: It looked bad.
26:18
Speaker 2: Could he be charging just for people who don't realize
26:21
Speaker 2: Jesse is an attorney? Should could he? Could he not
26:24
Speaker 2: now be liable for prosecution? Well, I guess the Senate
26:28
Speaker 2: doesn't prosecute. They recommend for prosecution to the Justice Department.
26:31
Speaker 2: But could that not happen now because of the fact
26:34
Speaker 2: that he, in essence, did not testify when he was
26:36
Speaker 2: called before the Senate to testify.
26:39
Speaker 3: It's the million dollar question. Let me explain it. So
26:42
Speaker 3: when somebody pleads the Fifth, Okay, they're right, they're right
26:46
Speaker 3: against self incrimination. Generally speaking, when someone is granted immunity,
26:50
Speaker 3: or let's just say, for this example, someone's granted a
26:52
Speaker 3: party and they're asked to testify about that conduct, they
26:56
Speaker 3: generally can't invoke the fifth anymore, right because they're protected.
27:01
Speaker 3: Having said that, the pardon that he was granted from
27:04
Speaker 3: President Biden was for conduct from twenty fourteen to twenty
27:07
Speaker 3: twenty five. So if he were to come up and
27:09
Speaker 3: purely be asked questions about that, I think you would
27:12
Speaker 3: have a difficult argument to say that he should be
27:14
Speaker 3: protected by the Fifth Amendment.
27:15
Speaker 4: Right.
27:15
Speaker 3: However, However, what he's not protected from is anything that
27:20
Speaker 3: he says during that testimony that the committee believes is
27:23
Speaker 3: a lie. So if they believe he committed perjury, if
27:26
Speaker 3: you were to actually testify and provide substance of answers
27:29
Speaker 3: the other day and they believe it was inconsistent with
27:32
Speaker 3: something that he said on the record or under oath,
27:34
Speaker 3: or other public statements or something in his diary entries,
27:37
Speaker 3: potentially he could be brought up on perjury charges. And
27:40
Speaker 3: that is why he pled the Fifth. He had no
27:42
Speaker 3: protection over that. So what did you see? This is
27:45
Speaker 3: very interesting. Do you remember when he was asked questions,
27:48
Speaker 3: doctor Faucia, what tie are you wearing? Doctor Faucia? What
27:51
Speaker 3: colors the carpet? Now, many people are interpreted at the show,
27:54
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, he won't even answer questions about that.
27:58
Speaker 3: You know why they asked him that, right, asked him
28:00
Speaker 3: that because if he were to answer it, because for
28:03
Speaker 3: him refusing to answer those questions that he knows he
28:08
Speaker 3: could never be prosecuted for. He's not gonna be prosecuted.
28:10
Speaker 3: He says his tie is gray and it's blue. But
28:13
Speaker 3: their argument would be, we're asking questions that have nothing
28:18
Speaker 3: to do with the subject matter in question. We had
28:21
Speaker 3: a subpoena, he had a legal obligation to answer our questions.
28:25
Speaker 3: And if he won't even answer our questions about non
28:29
Speaker 3: substantive issues about the tie and the carpet, he's in contempt.
28:33
Speaker 3: He's in contempt. He's legally not answering our questions. He's
28:37
Speaker 3: legally obligated to answer those questions, and he chose not to. Now,
28:41
Speaker 3: from a legal point of view, again, I would say,
28:43
Speaker 3: plead the fifth to everything, because there is an argument
28:46
Speaker 3: that if you selectively plead the fifth. Is he plead
28:48
Speaker 3: the fifth to certain questions and you answer other ones,
28:51
Speaker 3: you might pierce that. So again, I'm not surprised that
28:53
Speaker 3: he did that, but that is what they're going to say.
28:56
Speaker 3: He wouldn't even answer the most basic questions, and it
28:59
Speaker 3: was his legal obligation to answer those because he knew
29:01
Speaker 3: he couldn't be prosecuted on that. So I think that's
29:04
Speaker 3: the argument they're going to go with.
29:05
Speaker 2: I heard some people, Jesse, some legal folks saying that
29:07
Speaker 2: the fact that he even created or made an opening
29:10
Speaker 2: statement was potentially damaging. Correct.
29:13
Speaker 3: That is that is an argument that you can make.
29:16
Speaker 3: That is an argument you can make. It goes to
29:18
Speaker 3: this idea of selective pleading the fifth. I was actually
29:21
Speaker 3: just talking about it with a lawyer buddy of mine yesterday,
29:23
Speaker 3: and he said, if you answer certain substance of questions,
29:27
Speaker 3: or even if you provide an opening statement, you could
29:29
Speaker 3: say I don't know if it'd be successful, or you
29:31
Speaker 3: could say you're raising your state of mind. Your rate
29:35
Speaker 3: is in your opinion, and if you're going to raise
29:38
Speaker 3: your state of mind, your opinion, your view on that,
29:41
Speaker 3: then you should be able to answer those other questions.
29:45
Speaker 3: It opens the door for you to answer questions about
29:48
Speaker 3: your conduct as director. You're twenty fourteen to twenty twenty five.
29:52
Speaker 3: So it's an interesting legal argument. It's not particularly settled
29:55
Speaker 3: law on this, and I will tell you put even
29:57
Speaker 3: Anthony Fauchier to the side. If this is an issue
30:00
Speaker 3: that's brought up in the courts and it makes its way,
30:02
Speaker 3: it can have big ramifications for people who testify in
30:06
Speaker 3: front of Congress. Moving forward.
30:08
Speaker 2: Does Anthony do I think Anthony? I say Anthony like
30:12
Speaker 2: we're friends. Does Anthony fauci ever see jail?
30:17
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so. First of all,
30:19
Speaker 3: in terms of contempt vote, it's an uphill battle. If
30:22
Speaker 3: it passes through, the command has to go to a
30:24
Speaker 3: full Senate vote. You just need a majority, right, but
30:28
Speaker 3: you first have to get past the sixty vote threshold.
30:31
Speaker 3: And based on the questions you saw the other day,
30:33
Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to get Democratic support. So
30:35
Speaker 3: the idea of holding him a contempt or criminal contempt
30:37
Speaker 3: and referring it to the DOJ unlikely in terms of
30:41
Speaker 3: he's again he has a federal protection for the pardon,
30:46
Speaker 3: but in terms of state crimes. I can't see. I
30:49
Speaker 3: know that the a G and Florida has talked about
30:51
Speaker 3: opening up an investigation, but I haven't seen him being
30:54
Speaker 3: charged or potentially charged with any state crimes. And there
30:57
Speaker 3: could be difficulty for him being charged with state crimes.
31:00
Speaker 3: As a federal official. He can make the argument that
31:03
Speaker 3: he was acting in his federal duty and that can
31:05
Speaker 3: get kind of complicated. So I don't see it likely
31:08
Speaker 3: that Anthony Fauci would be prosecuted and this would actually
31:12
Speaker 3: lead to a conviction.
31:13
Speaker 2: Millions of human beings died other millions of human beings
31:18
Speaker 2: were separated from their parents as they died alone in
31:21
Speaker 2: nursing homes. Children lost years in school and don't know
31:26
Speaker 2: how to be social. This entire country literally was shaken
31:30
Speaker 2: to the core by the man with the glasses, Anthony Faucci.
31:34
Speaker 2: And he does have glasses, by the way, when he's
31:36
Speaker 2: not testifying. And it's just unusual to me that in
31:39
Speaker 2: a country like this, with the justice that we have,
31:42
Speaker 2: that a man like that could get away with it all.
31:45
Speaker 2: It's just amazing. But we love your explanations because you
31:48
Speaker 2: are a brilliant man, Jesse Weber. We appreciate you coming
31:52
Speaker 2: on My Friend News Nations chief Legal Analyst hosts of
31:55
Speaker 2: Jesse Weber Live. You could see him every week nine
31:58
Speaker 2: at eleven. I appreciate you taking the time this morning, Jess.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me appreciate it.
32:02
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32:21
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32:23
Speaker 2: Mark Simone Show in the History of the planet Earth.
32:26
Speaker 2: And we go to Rick and New Jersey. Good morning, sir,
32:29
Speaker 2: Hello Rick. Hold on, okay, hold on, hang on, Hey
32:32
Speaker 2: is he? Why don't you and I talked about Rick?
32:34
Speaker 2: Is Rick is?
32:35
Speaker 6: Yeah?
32:35
Speaker 2: Rick is doing so?
32:36
Speaker 4: Rick?
32:36
Speaker 2: Is he dusting?
32:38
Speaker 7: No?
32:38
Speaker 10: No, I'm just in the car right now.
32:40
Speaker 2: Okay, what's up Rick?
32:42
Speaker 10: He had to swim over to the car. Yeah, this
32:44
Speaker 10: is Rick from New Jersey. I just wanted to talk about,
32:48
Speaker 10: you know, a few years ago when I got my
32:50
Speaker 10: son and when I went to Wayne, New Jersey and
32:52
Speaker 10: the motor vehicles there and to get his driver's license.
32:55
Speaker 10: And I noticed when I was going, you know, I
32:58
Speaker 10: was on line and I was you know, he had
33:00
Speaker 10: passed his driver's test and everything else and was waiting
33:03
Speaker 10: in line. And I watched as every applicant that went
33:06
Speaker 10: to the desk was asked for a voter's registration. So
33:11
Speaker 10: when I heard this all this news about you know,
33:14
Speaker 10: that it was a glitch or it was some software
33:16
Speaker 10: or I'm like, now, this was intentional. Every one of
33:19
Speaker 10: those agents asked every applicant, and like you said before
33:23
Speaker 10: on the radio about you know, they don't you know,
33:25
Speaker 10: we had to get real ID. But now they have
33:28
Speaker 10: a state ID and they use it, you know, I
33:31
Speaker 10: mean now it says not eligible for it, But this
33:34
Speaker 10: was a few years ago, you know, they just used
33:38
Speaker 10: it as regular ID.
33:39
Speaker 2: Of course, if you think that there wasn't an intention
33:42
Speaker 2: to confuse the issue, you're crazy. This was absolutely the
33:47
Speaker 2: intention to confuse the issue and then open the floodgates
33:50
Speaker 2: and let twenty or thirty million people in. And where
33:54
Speaker 2: do they all congregate. They didn't go to Republican states.
33:57
Speaker 2: They went to Democrat states, Blues states, sanctuary cities and
34:01
Speaker 2: states where they could blend in, get their identification and
34:05
Speaker 2: then end up voting. But more importantly, Rick, the most
34:08
Speaker 2: important thing is their simple presence. Their simple presence allowed
34:13
Speaker 2: liberal states that were losing population to red states to
34:16
Speaker 2: maintain the number of Congress members because of the population. Remember,
34:21
Speaker 2: you don't have to be a citizen to count in
34:23
Speaker 2: the census, and based on the census, you get assigned
34:27
Speaker 2: numbers of Congress and that is what the Democrats made
34:31
Speaker 2: sure they did. But you're right, Rick, I appreciate I
34:33
Speaker 2: know that DMV, that MVC as well. In Wayne, Good morning,
34:36
Speaker 2: Russ and Harlem, you're on the air.
34:38
Speaker 7: Thanks.
34:39
Speaker 4: Ken.
34:39
Speaker 7: I really like that with Jesse Weber and our stall
34:42
Speaker 7: this show on Sundays. I really enjoyed that. But what
34:45
Speaker 7: he said about the federal officients can't be prosecuted, well,
34:48
Speaker 7: I mean, if the federal shoots his neighbor, that's a
34:51
Speaker 7: state murder charge. It's not qualified immunity of something illegal happens.
34:56
Speaker 7: But what I want to ask you, Ken, I don't know.
34:58
Speaker 7: You don't remember in nineteen seventy five Atlanta, Puerto Rican
35:01
Speaker 7: group bonb saunts tavern and I remember they in paneled
35:04
Speaker 7: the Grand Jurior in New York, and they subpoenaed a
35:07
Speaker 7: guy to testify who was just at a meeting, and
35:09
Speaker 7: he refused to testify. They locked them up for eighteen months.
35:12
Speaker 7: Couldn't they do that to Fauci or maybe dead?
35:14
Speaker 2: With Burke, Well, it's very I gotta cut you only
35:17
Speaker 2: because we're out of time. It's very possible. I guess
35:20
Speaker 2: you got to look at it from the state level.
35:22
Speaker 2: But then you gotta be careful because as a federal
35:25
Speaker 2: employee there are certain immunities that you have automatically. That's
35:29
Speaker 2: a very good question, Russ, and I appreciate it all right.
35:31
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