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  Speaker 1: Since it was shot in southern California, the crew had
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  Speaker 1: to buy paper leaves from a decorator. They painted these
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  Speaker 1: paper leaves various autumn colors like red, brown, and yellow
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  Speaker 1: and scattered them across scenes, but they didn't have the
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  Speaker 1: budget for like huge amounts of them, so every time
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  Speaker 1: they shot a scene, they would have to sweep them
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  Speaker 1: up and gather them to use them for the next scene.
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  Speaker 1: So all of the leaves you see on the ground,
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  Speaker 1: on the streets, on the sidewalks, on the yards of
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  Speaker 1: the houses, those are all actually paper leaves that they painted.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Halloween movie friends, Welcome back to another episode of
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  Speaker 1: Raiders of the Lost Podcast, the Ultimate Film and TV podcast,
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  Speaker 1: and today we are breaking down the most iconic Halloween
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  Speaker 1: movie there is, John Carpenter's nineteen seventy eight classic Halloween.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think it's the most iconic horror movie of
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  Speaker 1: all time? Not just Halloween movie? I don't. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think is more iconic? Shine, the Shining and Extorcists
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  Speaker 1: are more iconic than Halloween is five all times? Oh
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  Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, it's not five. It's so memorable. And
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  Speaker 1: the thing with it is it's wildly successful because it's
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  Speaker 1: now got thirteen movies in its universe. It was like
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  Speaker 1: thirty movies. It's insane how successful this franchise has become.
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  Speaker 1: Just off this independent film from nineteen seventy eight and IMDb.
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  Speaker 1: It's a seven point seven ron Tomatoes to ninety six
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  Speaker 1: percent critics score, eighty nine percent audience score Letterbox. It's
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  Speaker 1: a three point eight budget of three hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. It grossed seventy million dollars back in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight. Now I adjusted that for inflation, so
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  Speaker 1: the budget, according to now in today's standards, would have
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  Speaker 1: been one point four million dollars and the gross at
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  Speaker 1: the box office would have been three hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 1: million dollars. That's an insane profit. And then factory in rentals,
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  Speaker 1: DVD sales, VHS sales, holy shrchandise. Did this movie earn
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  Speaker 1: a billion dollars at least? At least but it has
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  Speaker 1: to be one of the most iconic when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to Halloween and horror movies because of how many people
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  Speaker 1: dress up as Mike Myers for Halloween for the last
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  Speaker 1: forty years. It's absolutely insane. He's still that much in
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  Speaker 1: the zeitgeist of culture. Forty five years later, they're still
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  Speaker 1: making movies about him. We just got the rights to
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  Speaker 1: Halloween was purchased by what was it, Merrimax to make
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  Speaker 1: all verse of movies and TV shows for Mike Myers.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm guessing they're gonna do season of the Witch
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  Speaker 1: with spinoffs, because that was more of like an anthology
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  Speaker 1: of shorts, and they'll get the cult in there as well.
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  Speaker 1: There was a cult in the third one. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so the Druids. The Druids, Yeah, the Druid cults is
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  Speaker 1: that what it's called. And they are bringing back the
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  Speaker 1: Thorn Demon. Sounds cool, killer of parents, It sounds cool, man,
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  Speaker 1: It's all I can barely remember it. But we grew
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  Speaker 1: up watching these and Michael Myers, Freddy Krueger, Chucky. They
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  Speaker 1: were staples in our household in the horror genre, and
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  Speaker 1: they were icons that I was terrified of as a kid.
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  Speaker 1: Those were when you're growing down the hallways of the
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  Speaker 1: video stores and blockbars, so you see the DVD cases
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  Speaker 1: in the horror section of those horror icons, always afraid
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  Speaker 1: of them. But Michael Myers is he's got to be
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  Speaker 1: up there with Ghostfaced as the most iconic Slasher. I
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  Speaker 1: think he has the edge over Freddy and Jason because
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  Speaker 1: I think, ultimately all around, the films are better for
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  Speaker 1: the most part than the Friday Thirteenth movies, And most
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  Speaker 1: of the Freddy movies are kind of pretty bad, but
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  Speaker 1: some of them are very good, especially the first and
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  Speaker 1: third ones. But I think Halloween has enough good entries
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  Speaker 1: to really edge it out, and then for Slashers is
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  Speaker 1: up there with ghost Face. I think, yeah, right now,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like ghost Face has the edge because the
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  Speaker 1: gen zs love the New Scream franchise. The last Halloween reboot,
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  Speaker 1: the third reboot this century? Was it the fourth reboot
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  Speaker 1: the century of Scream? No of Halloween of Halloween third
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  Speaker 1: reboot this century because the Halloween Rob Zombie did it
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  Speaker 1: in the two thousand, two thousand and seven, and then
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, and then David Green, then David Gogreen.
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  Speaker 1: But there was Halloween h two o and two thousand,
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  Speaker 1: right was that two thousand, nineteen ninety nine? I can't remember.
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  Speaker 1: It might have been nineteen ninety nine or something like that,
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  Speaker 1: but there had been like Halloween five, right, Yeah, here's that.
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  Speaker 1: So there's been three versions of the Halloween franchise the century,
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  Speaker 1: there's actually just been like it's been different timelines and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It hasn't all been cohesive and all thread of a
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  Speaker 1: storyline like some have taken. The route of Laurie is
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  Speaker 1: related familiarly to Michael Myers, which obviously the first film
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  Speaker 1: there's no hint of that at all. But the second film,
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  Speaker 1: when they were writing the sequel, Deborah Hill and John Carpenter,
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  Speaker 1: they came up with that great twist. Obviously I'm spoiling
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  Speaker 1: a movie from nineteen eighty one, sorry, where Laurie is
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  Speaker 1: the sister of Mike Myers. That wasn't originally planned, but
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  Speaker 1: they came up with that and fun fact, for the
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  Speaker 1: release of Halloween on TV, the movie wasn't long enough
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  Speaker 1: for the TV spot that whatever station bought the rights
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  Speaker 1: to it. They're like, we need more footage to hit
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  Speaker 1: this timeslot for our ad revenue, so they did for commercials.
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  Speaker 1: So John Carpenter actually shot scenes of Michael Myers in
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  Speaker 1: the mental institution and he put them into the origin
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  Speaker 1: into Halloween for the TV airing of Halloween. Oh, that's right,
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  Speaker 1: And didn't they shoot other scenes of Doctor Loomis as
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  Speaker 1: well as a couple scenes with Laurie and her sisters,
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  Speaker 1: I think even young Mike Myers in the mental institution, right,
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  Speaker 1: So it was all tied to Laurie, and because they
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  Speaker 1: made the connection through the sequel, they had the idea,
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  Speaker 1: oh what if they're brother and sister. And then the
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  Speaker 1: Meyers parents passed away only a couple of years after
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  Speaker 1: Michael got sent to the institution, and their other baby,
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  Speaker 1: their baby Lori, was raised in foster care, and so
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  Speaker 1: they came up with an idea for the sequel. But
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  Speaker 1: then they're like, why don't we just make scenes for
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  Speaker 1: that in the first film up on its television release,
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  Speaker 1: So it's in the TV release version of Halloween. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it works. I think it works. The film
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  Speaker 1: works perfectly as it is, but they needed to fill
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  Speaker 1: in I think another like ten to fifteen minutes of
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  Speaker 1: runtime for the time slot on TV, and they drew
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  Speaker 1: the original elle as long as they could. I love
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  Speaker 1: how so. A great fact about this movie super low budget. Again,
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  Speaker 1: the screenplay was written in less than two weeks according
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  Speaker 1: to everyone involved, and then the production only took twenty
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  Speaker 1: days twenty two days, so super fast turnaround, low budgets.
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  Speaker 1: And then when you watch the movie, the script's what
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  Speaker 1: seven pages long because half of it is just slow walking,
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  Speaker 1: which I love. It worked so well, like this voyeuristic
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  Speaker 1: POV stalking filmmaking style using a relatively new piece of
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  Speaker 1: technology nineteen seventy eight, the Panaglide steadycam, which obviously steadycam
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  Speaker 1: was more reinvented and more precise for something in the
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  Speaker 1: Shining in nineteen eighty later on that was an independent invention.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember the guy's name who made that, but
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  Speaker 1: Panavision made the panic Glide steadycam system which worked really well,
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  Speaker 1: and this is only the fourth film to use that
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  Speaker 1: nude piece of technology at the time. So but I
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  Speaker 1: think that's one of the great strengths of this film,
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  Speaker 1: is this voyeuristic POV following stalking, even the camera following characters.
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  Speaker 1: But it adds so much runtime to what I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: was a very short script, and it doesn't work as
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  Speaker 1: a detriment because what Carpenter did with the film was
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  Speaker 1: he created a great tone in a great mood through
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  Speaker 1: the music, and the music is really what sells it.
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  Speaker 1: And even one of the producers of the film said
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  Speaker 1: that the studio exec who ran the studio at the time,
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  Speaker 1: when they saw the first cut of the film without music,
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  Speaker 1: they're like, it's not scary at all. But then when
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  Speaker 1: they watched it upon a screener with the music, they're like,
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  Speaker 1: that was horrifying, and the music really added that to it.
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  Speaker 1: Those walking scenes wouldn't work if it wasn't for that
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  Speaker 1: piano theme and that synth score that John Carpenter brilliantly wrote.
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  Speaker 1: And it's all about setting up the tone and the
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  Speaker 1: feeling for the film. So even though yes, there is
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  Speaker 1: a shit ton of walking in this movie, just people walking,
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  Speaker 1: but you're feeling the dread and you're feeling the suspense
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  Speaker 1: and you're just waiting, waiting for something to happen. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it works really well. I think that you
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  Speaker 1: don't need to know much more about the characters. We
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  Speaker 1: don't need other scenes because we get those that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff in the remakes and the sequels. It's just
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  Speaker 1: like more character stuff and most of the time it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really work, whereas this movie just really takes its time,
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  Speaker 1: stretches out the suspense, and Carpenter sticks to the idea
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  Speaker 1: that less is more, and it works for the better.
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  Speaker 1: And it's almost real time. I mean this whole movie
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  Speaker 1: takes place over the course of just one day Halloween
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy eight. Verses obviously that when Michael in
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  Speaker 1: the opening kills his sister, that's nineteen sixty three, so
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  Speaker 1: or fifteen years later, it's just one day Lloween that
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  Speaker 1: day in haddn't Field, Illinois, hadn't Field Illinois, I mean
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  Speaker 1: southern California. Actually, this movie was entirely shot in Los Angeles,
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  Speaker 1: in neighborhoods that we live near, so with South Pasadena, Alhambra,
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  Speaker 1: Alta Dina. And actually the budget was so loow for
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  Speaker 1: this film that all the car license plates still say California.
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  Speaker 1: They're still California plates. And you can actually see some
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  Speaker 1: palm trees in a couple of shots, and all the
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  Speaker 1: folio foliage if you look, it's still green, because the
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  Speaker 1: only a small number of trees actually change in color
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  Speaker 1: in California. And since it was shot in southern California,
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  Speaker 1: the crew had to buy paper leaves from a decorator
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  Speaker 1: and then paint them various colors because they have people well,
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  Speaker 1: so they painted these paper leaves various autumn colors like red, brown,
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  Speaker 1: and yellow and scattered them across scenes, but they didn't
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  Speaker 1: have the budget for like huge amounts of them, so
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  Speaker 1: every time they shot a scene, they would have to
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  Speaker 1: sweep them up and gather them to use them for
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  Speaker 1: the next scene. So all the all of the leaves
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  Speaker 1: you see on the ground, on the streets, on the sidewalks,
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  Speaker 1: and on the on the yards of the houses, those
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  Speaker 1: are all actual paper leaves that they painted. That's pretty amazing. Again,
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  Speaker 1: and I've read somewhere that Robert England was obviously friends
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  Speaker 1: with John Carpenter all the time and he had him
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  Speaker 1: on set throwing leaves around for some of the scene decoration.
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  Speaker 1: But it's really clever, and I mean staying on that
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  Speaker 1: low budgets again, John Carpenter did the music because the
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  Speaker 1: budget was so low, and Anthony talked about how he
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  Speaker 1: made that music and he only did it, he said,
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  Speaker 1: in three days. It took him to compose and record
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  Speaker 1: the entire score for the film. And the Halloween theme
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  Speaker 1: has become one of the most recognizable musical themes in
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  Speaker 1: horror cinema for all times. It's so iconic and like
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  Speaker 1: and they said, it makes the movie. It brings the scariness,
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  Speaker 1: the mood, like the sense and just the eerie tones
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  Speaker 1: they has then the jump scares with the loud music.
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  Speaker 1: It was so effective at the time and still still works.
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  Speaker 1: And Carpenter said that he came up with the Halloween
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  Speaker 1: theme in an hour, just an hour he came up
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  Speaker 1: with that. And critic James Burdanelli calls the score relatively
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  Speaker 1: simple and unsophisticated, but admits that the Halloween's music is
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  Speaker 1: one of its strongest assets. And Carpenter stated in an interview,
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  Speaker 1: I can play just about any keyboard, but I can't
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  Speaker 1: read or write a note. And then in Halloween's end credits,
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  Speaker 1: Carpenter billed himself as the Bowling Green Philharmonic orchestrav but
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  Speaker 1: also received assistance from composer Dan Wyman, a music professor
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  Speaker 1: at San Jose State University. I mean, Jaws is the
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  Speaker 1: most simple theme there is, and it's one of the
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  Speaker 1: most effective themes. So it has nothing to do with
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  Speaker 1: complexity to make sure that to define a theme or
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  Speaker 1: a composition that's great. So it's really all about how
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  Speaker 1: it works within the film. And just like Jaws and
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  Speaker 1: its simplicity works perfectly for the Shark. It's like Nirvana
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  Speaker 1: with smells like teen spirits four chords, Yeah, exactly, but
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  Speaker 1: it's so it was changed music. Yeah, absolutely, there was
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  Speaker 1: before Nirvana than after in Nirvana for Roley was absolutely
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  Speaker 1: and then this film. I just remember as a kid
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  Speaker 1: like that, the sound of this music. It just means
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  Speaker 1: horror and it means death in a way, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. Absolutely, And Carpenter has composed a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the music. I mean, the film before he made
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  Speaker 1: this one was Assault on Priesting thirteen, and he made
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  Speaker 1: the music for that film as well as writing and
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  Speaker 1: directing it. So this was actually his third film. He
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  Speaker 1: was making very low budget movies in a couple of
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  Speaker 1: action movies. Assault in Precinct thirteen actually Start Kurt Russell
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  Speaker 1: was their first collaboration together. The year before. Two years
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  Speaker 1: before that, he made Dark Stars, So those were his
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  Speaker 1: first feature films. This was his third feature film. It's
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  Speaker 1: a pretty decent remake of Assault on Precinct thirteen, starring
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  Speaker 1: Handsome Hawk and Larry Lawrence Fishburne. Right, yeah, it's very good.
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  Speaker 1: I like it and Maria Bello. Yeah. Well, let's do
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  Speaker 1: a quick synopsis of Halloween. And we know everyone listening
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  Speaker 1: to this has probably seen this movie. It's again the
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  Speaker 1: most iconic core movie of all time. You know James
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  Speaker 1: loves the synopsis I Love On a cold Halloween night.
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  Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty three, six year old Michael Myers brutally
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  Speaker 1: murdered his seventeen year old sister Judith. He was sentenced
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  Speaker 1: and locked away for fifteen years. But in October thirtieth,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, while being transferred for a court date,
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  Speaker 1: a twenty one year old Michael Myers steals a car
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  Speaker 1: and escapes Smith's Grove. He returns to his quiet home
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  Speaker 1: of Haddonfield, Illinois, where he looks for his next victims.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta say the opening of Halloween is really what's
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  Speaker 1: so defining for the film. It's, in my opinion, the
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  Speaker 1: opening POV long take is one of the best shots
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  Speaker 1: in horror history. If not, it could be the greatest
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  Speaker 1: shot ever done in horror. It's so effective, it's so brilliant,
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  Speaker 1: This really great long take POV. We start with voyeurism,
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  Speaker 1: like spying on the residence of the home from outside.
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  Speaker 1: We think it's a killer, and I'm sure for people
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  Speaker 1: who saw the trailer and poster, they think that's Michael Myers,
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  Speaker 1: and little do we know it ends up being six
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  Speaker 1: year old Michael Myers, a little kid, but to see
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  Speaker 1: the perspective of a killer, of a serial killer, and
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  Speaker 1: watching them stock their prey and then kill their prey. Also,
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  Speaker 1: the POV of the murder actually carrying it's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it takes us a step further from Psycho where we're
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  Speaker 1: holding the knife. Now now the audience is holding the knife.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just seeing someone getting stabbed in such close
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  Speaker 1: quarters and intimacy, but we're actually, as a way, because
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  Speaker 1: of the POV subjective, we are taking part in the killing,
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  Speaker 1: something that I just think is just such a brilliant concept.
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  Speaker 1: And John Carper execute it really perfectly. They shot it
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  Speaker 1: in one night and they wanted to do some more takes,
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  Speaker 1: but they actually ran out of time because the sun
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  Speaker 1: was rising. But it's just a really impressive shot and
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  Speaker 1: sets the stage for the film because after that opening,
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  Speaker 1: you're like, I am all gears ahead, just like, let's
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  Speaker 1: go what's gonna happen in this movie? It's really iconic.
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  Speaker 1: It's four minutes and eleven seconds. It's really well done.
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  Speaker 1: You know, starting pushing into the house, creeping around the
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  Speaker 1: bushes on the side, looking in the window at the
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  Speaker 1: boy and the girl ready to go upstairs and have
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  Speaker 1: a quickie before the boy has to go home, very
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  Speaker 1: quick quickie. He like walks out of the house like
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  Speaker 1: like I'm man. But it's like, dude, bro, we were
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  Speaker 1: sixteen once. That's true. That's true. But like you said,
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  Speaker 1: it's really well done. And then not even just not
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  Speaker 1: to mention holding the knife in the pov of the night,
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  Speaker 1: but putting the mask on the lens and everything like that.
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  Speaker 1: It's so clever and it works so well, really puts
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  Speaker 1: you in the shoes of Michael. But even before that
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  Speaker 1: long take, we have another long take, the opening title
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  Speaker 1: credit sequence, Oh yeah, of the Jackal Lantern, where it's
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  Speaker 1: just a low camera pushing in with the left side
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  Speaker 1: of the screen is being filled in with this jackal
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  Speaker 1: lantern that's lit up obviously with the candle on the inside,
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  Speaker 1: and all the credits and the names and production info
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  Speaker 1: is on the rights until the camera is really pushing
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  Speaker 1: in and the pumpkin is half off screen and all
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  Speaker 1: we have are the flickering like evil eyes of the
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  Speaker 1: jack of lights turn and then the jackal lanterns, the
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  Speaker 1: candle gets blown out, the light is off, and then
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  Speaker 1: we just have Halloween. It's awesome, it's brilliant, it's great.
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  Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's a two minute credit role, but
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  Speaker 1: I just love watching it. It's entertaining as hell. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's just a pumpkin lit up, but it's fucking awesome.
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  Speaker 1: And then the room that's just completely blacked out. The
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  Speaker 1: title font is just perfection. It's such a great title
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  Speaker 1: sequence in the design of that font and the coloring
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  Speaker 1: it just plus the title of the movie, it's just
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  Speaker 1: everything just works. Some movies, all the pieces come together
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  Speaker 1: to create something that is just lightning in a bottle.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, I really do think Halloween is one
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  Speaker 1: of those movies where it was just this mad dash effort,
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  Speaker 1: kind of strown together in a matter of a month
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  Speaker 1: or so. But somehow all these pieces they fit together
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  Speaker 1: perfectly and they made something legendary. And I got a
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  Speaker 1: little info on, obviously the story and screenplay, which I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait to talk about. So there's a myth, in
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  Speaker 1: kind of common misconception, that the original title for this
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  Speaker 1: movie was The Babysitter Murders. This is a myth which
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  Speaker 1: was confirmed to be untrue by the producer of the movie,
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  Speaker 1: Irwin Yoblin. So, after viewing Carpenter's film Assault on Precinct
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  Speaker 1: thirteen in nineteen seventy six at the Milan Film Festival,
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  Speaker 1: independent film producer Irwin Yoblins and financier Mustafa Akad sought
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  Speaker 1: out Carpenter to direct a film for them about a
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  Speaker 1: psychotic killer that stocked babysitter So they had an idea
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: of like, we want to make a horror movie about
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: babysitter killers. In an interview with Fangoria magazine, Yoblin stated,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I was thinking that would make sense in the horror genre,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: and what I wanted to do was make a picture
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: that had the same impact as The Exorcist. Carpenter agreed
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: to direct the film contingent on his having full creative control,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: and it was paid ten thousand dollars for his work,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: which included writing, directing, and eventually scoring the film. I
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: hope he got some back end. I'm sure he did
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: a couple of points. For sure. He and his then
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: girlfriend Deborah Hill began drafting the story for Halloween. There
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: is an urban myth that the film at one point
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: was supposed to be called The Babysitter Mirrors, but Yoblins
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: has since debunked that, stating that it was always intended
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: to be called and take place on Halloween. Carpenter said
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: of the basic concept, Halloween Night has never been This
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: has never been the theme in the film, my idea.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: It was just a haunted house film that happened to
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: take place on Halloween. And so he and Hill, who
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: worked together on this screenplay, they used to date. Actually,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: so they dated for a while. And Deborah Hill is
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: also credited as a producer of this and co writer
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: on many of Jordan Carpenter's films. Whole let me pull
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: up her info that I have for give me one second.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: So she was also John Carper's girlfriend at the time,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: an eventual frequent collaborator in Friend, She also wrote and
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: co wrote The Fog, Escape from New York and Escape
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: from la and they also wrote and produced Halloween two together.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Hill helped support talent in the film industry throughout her career,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: and a number of Hills associates went on to later
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: success in film. For example, James Cameron, the filmmaker That Guy,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: once worked for Deborah Hill in the visual effects departments
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: of her production companies. Unfortunately, Hill passed away in two
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: thousand and five after her death, Carpenter told the Associated
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Press that working with Hill was one of the greatest
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: experiences of my life. She had a passion for not
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: just movies about women or women's ideas, but films for everybody.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: And when they wrote the screenplay, Deborah Hill did all
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: the dialogue for the female characters. She worked as a
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: babysitter in her youth, so she had a lot of
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: experience with that. While Carpenter drafted Loomis's speeches on the
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: soullessness of Michael Myers, I like how Laurie points out
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: the motivation of her friend being a babysitter is just
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: a place to get hook up with her boyfriend. And
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: there's another misconception, and it's something I grew up thinking
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: about this film and thinking about Michael Myers's motivation is
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: that he didn't he didn't like teens having sex. That's
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: something I always thought motivated his kills. However, Carpenter and
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Hill have stayed him many times over the years. They
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: did not consciously set out to depict virginity as a
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: way of defeating the rampage and killer of like avoiding
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: his knife. The reason why the horny teens always die
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: is simply because they're too preoccupied with getting laid that
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: they don't notice there's a killer at large, because if
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: you compare to Laurie, Laurie's never getting laid and she's
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: always prepared and always fights back. So I thought it
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: was like he was after people who were losing their
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: virginity and people who were no longer pure. But it
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: was just a misconception that we heard through word of
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: mouth and stuff, the irony that became a horror trope
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: for decades. Yeah, even pointed out and Scream as a
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: very meta horror film in itself, and just pointing out
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Randy and all of his rules, like the virgin survives,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: who survives in Halloween Laurie survives, She's the virgin the film.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Don't have sex. If you have sex, You're gonna get killed.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Those are really the rules. And obviously you can, of
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: course associate sex and violence with this movie teenage sex,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: young sex. Is Michael did he kill? Like, let's talking
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: about why Michael at six years old killed his sister.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Was he jealous of her and having a boyfriend and
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: like having a relationship which she didn't want to spend
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: time with her. Was he mad that Laurie didn't take
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: him trick or treating, which he clearly looks like he
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: didn't get taken out trick or treating that night on Halloween.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: It's a bit of a reaction. But I think when
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: you look at Mike Myers, and I don't believe anybody's
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: born evil, but when it comes to cinema and movies
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and characters, I think Michael Myers just at the end
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: of the day, was just born evil, and it was
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: deep inside of him, was waiting to be unleashed at
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: some point, and this night was just a trigger for
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: many things happening to him being ignored by his sister,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: maybe being jealous of him and her and her boyfriend
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: at the time, and that evil gets unleashed and he
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: has to finally lash out. I agree because Louis Stevens
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: says multiple times that he's not a man, he's just
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: you're evil, and he keeps calling Michael it and that
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: other doctors like, how about you call him him? He's
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: like if you prefer, He's like, it's he's this isn't
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: a man, this is a monster. So doctor Loomis understands
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: that Michael Myers has no empathy, and he can't be
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: reason with or empathized with whatsoever. And he actually he
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: did intended that he wants. So Carpenter's intention was to
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: create someone with an intent with the character was that
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the audience should never be able to relate with him ever,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: and part of that stems from his inability, his lack
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: of dialogue. He doesn't speak, so there's already that disconnect.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: And he even says, I've been treating him for fifteen years,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: He's never spoken a word, So there's that disconnect. And
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: then the mask is the other disconnect. So in a way,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Michael is as far from human as a person can be.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: So I totally agree. And you know, I understand that
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: modern day cinema we like to empathize with our villains,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: but some of the most iconic villain you can't empathize with.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: And there's a reason. It's just because they it's a
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: representation of evil. It's not a representation of an evil person,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: but like he's evil personified, and I really like that
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: in horror movies. And why then does Michael Myers return
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: to Haddonfield, Illinois? You know, why does he drive all
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: these miles to go back there. Obviously, if you have
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: watched all of the movies, or even if you've watched
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: the second one, you know now that there brother and sister.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: But when you watch the first film, that wasn't part
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: of it at all. It's never insinuated, and it's just
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: he's going back. And why does he stok Laurie? And
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: he goes back to Haddonfield. I think it's pretty clear
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: it's the only place he knows, it's the only place
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: he's been thinking of. It's his home. He wants to
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: go back to his home, probably, And then why does
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: he kill Laurie? Why does he stock her and her friends?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Because she's really the first person he sees, you could say,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: because he's hiding out inside of his old abandoned home,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: which was actually abandoned in real life at the time
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: of the making of this movie, and they recreated it,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: demolished it, and then recreated again. It's actually in South Pasadena.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: It's located at one thousand Mission Boulevard. You can actually
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: look it up on Zo Apps. It's painted blue now though,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: next to a train track. But why does he stock Laurie?
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: She's the first person you could argue he sees who
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: maybe reminds him of his sister. She has to drop
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: off the key. Her father's the realtor. He's trying to
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: sell the Meyer's home, which obviously no one's gonna buy
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: this home, so she he asked her in the beginning
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: of the film to drop the key off, put it
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: under the front door mats at the Meyer's residence. Little
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: does she know, Mikey Maya's is inside the house looking
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: outside the windows and he sees Laurie and from then
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: on he starts to stalk and follow this girl, Laurie,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: who I just believe he follows her because she looks
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: probably like his sister, reminds him of his sister. He's
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: gonna go back to Haddonfield. He has to kill again,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: and it seems like the thing he wants to do
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: is kill young woman. Yeah, and I think it's her
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: stepping onto the porch and having the key is like
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: a connection to his home, and so he wants to
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: kill her. So he wants to kill her, and that's
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: why he ends up stalking her. And I mean, we
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: get a lot of the famous horror tropes is the
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: first time we see them in this movie, Like a
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: student being stalked outside over their classroom. I mean, this
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: is the first time it was done, and now we're
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: seeing it done a thousand times. It's become like such
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: a cliche. But I mean John Carpenter started a lot
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: of the cliches of just like Michael Myers just staring
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: at her through the window from across the street. It's
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: even in hereditary. It's an hereditary. Yeah, a lot of
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: horror films have which is borrowed from these cliches and
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: archetypes that filmmakers. He's not the only one filmmakers like
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: John Carpenter basically created. And I also think that him
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: coming back to the home also ties to what happens
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: with the finale of the film, where when Laurie's going
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: through the home after everybody's been murdered, it's basically like
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: it's like a haunted house of finding body after body.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: You know. She finds her friend's corpse on the bed
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: with the tombstone of Michael's sister on the headboard. Then
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: she fires another friend in the closet hanging upside down,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and then another friend in another close in the towel
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: closet and so digging up his sister's grave and then
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: taking the tombstone. You could say that Michael is trying
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: to maybe recreate his sister's death through all of this.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's trying to make some connection to that fateful
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: night fifteen years ago. I think it all ties to
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: his sister. I don't think that she did anything wrong
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: with him. I don't think that he was upset with
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: her in any way. I just think that he clearly
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: it's just as simple as he wanted to kill her.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: He just wanted to do it. But it all ties
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: to the sister. That's why he put the tombstone there. Yeah,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: it's a crazy thing. And the first time he says
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: moving the tombstone's there, like holy crap, that is wild.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: And he's taunting Laurie like you could say that Laurie
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: is now the representation of his sister exactly in the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: way he's bringing her back to life by bringing the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: tombstone there and digging up the grave and everything. That's
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: what it feels like to me. He's like taunting Laurie,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: pretending Laurie's his sister. I'm gonna stalk, haunt her and
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: kill my sister again or redo it. I think that's
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: why he does that, because we got a few dms
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: about people asking about the tombstone, and I think it's
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: kind of a recreation of killing his sister. It's just
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: so he wants to do it over and over again. Yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Pretty messed up, Pretty f and messed up. And I
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: love how Michael is. He's just going through town. He's
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: driving around with that mask on. But it's the perfect
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: time of year. Yeah, It's like that great sequence in
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the Office when it's Halloween one of the Halloween episodes,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Create is like covered in blood and he comes in
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and they're they're like, oh, great car. He's like, oh
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: it's Halloween. Oh, perfect timing, good timing. Yeah. So I
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: saw a meme someone posted of a guy driving a
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: truck and who's covered in blood with Michael Myers's mask on,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and it said like, Halloween is the perfect time to
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: commit a murder, Like no way to look twice exactly.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Drive around like that in March, you might get pulled over. Yeah,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: but he just blends in, Like he can walk around
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: someone's house and just like be on their sidewalk covered
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: in this mask and no one will think twice because
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: there are people dressed up on the other side of
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: the block or across the streets, so he blends right in.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: And also I really like him just driving around and
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: that him stealing the car is a great sequence. It's
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: a really scary sequence and we get a great special effect.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: It's my face favorite instance of special effects in the
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: film of when he he jumps on top of the
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: car and the nurses panicking and then he slaps his
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: hand his palm onto the side window and it cracks
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the window, and it's just a really great special effect.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm they must have thrown some like I don't know,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I have no idea how they did, honestly, but it's
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: just wonderful seeing that that glass break. It doesn't break,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: but it cracks. The show is strength, because the thing
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: with Michael is he has, like you could say, a
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: supernatural power to him, and it could be because he
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: represents evil and evil powers him in a way. That's
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: why he's an unstoppable force. That's why he can. He
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: can he can lift a man up to buy his
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: neck and choke him out, and that's why he can
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: survive several gunshot wounds. And and then the they kind
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: of went a little too far with the sequels of
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: he's a little bit too much like a terminator. He
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: has like invulnerable exactly where it's like annoying. Sometimes it's
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: laughable and it takes you out of it. But in
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: the first film and a couple of the others, it's
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: done pretty well. But there is like there there's gotta
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: be some kind of supernatural power going on for him
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: to be able to survive all this and to keep going.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: He gets stabbed in the neck, he gets stabbed in
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the chest, he gets shot several times. Boat in the eye,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: poke in the eye, that looked like it hurt. Yeah,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: con anger, man, that's the worst one. I cringe you Okay, Mike, Hey,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: what did you do that for? Lord's like gos shit,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, get you in the eye? Sorry about that, man.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Should we go to the hospital? All right?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Are you?
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: How about I'll start the top of the top of
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the stairs, start chasing me. Let's take But there is
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: this supernatural strength to him. That is one of the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: reasons why he's so legendary. I think I think it's
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: used so well in this movie. But like you said,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: it's drawn out too much. He's too much of this
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: super villain, but in the first one he's vulnerable. He
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: does get wounded, but having him disappear off the front
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: lawn after four gunshot wounds is awesome because you know
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: someone could survive that if they're fueled by pure evil,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: whether he's possessed by a spirit or whatever it is,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: or it's just insanity where he doesn't really feel pain
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: because he's so focused on evil deeds and he's just
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: consumed by rage and just wanting to murder. Is that
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: where he gets his strength. He's obviously a little taller
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: and stronger than the average person for sure, but to
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: be able to lift somebody up and choke them like
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: you said, and then stab them onto the wall, it
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: takes a good amount of strength to do that. So
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: is there some sort of supernatural I like when there's
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: like a like a dash of the supernatural for Mike Myers,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: But sometimes they go overboard. It's a little too much.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: It's a little too overboard because I remember being a
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: kid watching because we watched I think various times all
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the sequels at some point, and sometimes it's like so ridiculous,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: like how he survived that. It's just getting a little
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: too outlandish. But He's so memorable, and the culture was
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: affected by this movie and by this character and by
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: this franchise. It's similar to Jaws, when people are afraid
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to go in the water at the beach because Jaws
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: came out in nineteen seventy five and it was such
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: a phenomenon. But people are afraid to serve, people are afraid
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: to swim out in the oceans. And I feel like
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: when I was a kid, Mike Myers it just had
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: that pulse of Halloween night, Like, look out from Mike
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Myers out there somewhere. He's walking around, he's stalking, and
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: then you see adults and older kids dressed up as
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Mike Myers, and he just terrifies a kid walking the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: streets on Halloween trick or treating, or even the night
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: before Halloween. But just yeah, that's a great point. I always,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I will say, whenever we were kids we walked by
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Michael Myers, guy, I was always just like, just be
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: ready to run, that might actually be Mike Myers, Like
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: we got a bucket. There's something different about the Michael
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Myers costume. It's just some dad who works like for
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the city department, liked down pipes and he's just like
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: he loves Halloween. Yeah, but like I was, You're right,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I was always on edge, always on edge around of
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Michael Myers costume, but not just going out on Halloween
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: and feeling the the aura of Michael Myers around you
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: with just like fear, but also the giddiness of trick
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: or treating is so much fun, but there's always like
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the back of your head, like the Boogeyman's around. Someone's
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: getting killed tonight, someone's getting someone's getting press, and someone's
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: getting murdered tonight. Unrelated hopefully, but the same thing with
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: not just that, but you know, walking around the hallways
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: of your house at night with all the lights off,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: like looking around the corners, like is Mike Myers in here?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I used to always like be afraid of Mike Myers
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: in the house of I'm walking around at night. Oh yeah, absolutely.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: And his costume and mask are so legendary. I think
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: everybody knows it's it's a James T. Kirk mask from
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Star Trek. However, the first choice was a clown mask,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: so clown yeah. Because of the film's type budget, the
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: production DESI designer Tommy Lee Wallace had to use whatever
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: he had at his disposable disposal, so he put the
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: mask down the disposal exactly, and he had to buy
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: materials cheaply. So when he created the Michael Myers mask,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: he made two versions. The first was a Don post
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Emmett Kelly smiling clown mask that they put frizzy red
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: hair on. They tested it out and it appeared to
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: be very demented and creepy. The other mask that he
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: made was a nineteen seventy five Captain James T. Kirk
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: mask from Star Trek that was purchased in a costume
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: shop on Hollywood Boulevard for one dollar and niney eight cents,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: which is eighty thousand dollars because of inflation. Yeah. It
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: had the eyebrows and sideburns ripped off, the face was
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: painted bluish white, the hair was spray painted brown, and
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the eyes were opened up more. After testing out that mask,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: the crew decided that it was much more creepy because
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: it was emotionless and I totally get that. And on
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: top of that, he has the mechanics one piece outf
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: and on. Yeah. Yeah, the interesting thing about this earlier
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: you said that it was sort of almost like you
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: said lightning in a bottle of this movie, or would
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: you say something like that sort of like that's exactly right.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: So like how whenever we talk about Glady or that
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: movie like shouldn't have been as good as it was,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: but obviously really Scot's the man and they were making
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: that movie as they were writing in It's just like,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: imagine this movie magic so many things with this this
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: low budget and then forcing them to get creative and
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: this mask working out not only for the aesthetic of
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: the film, but then becoming so iconic and memorable and
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: just Halloween culture and horror culture. Who would have thought
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: that taking a William Shatner James James T. Kirk mask
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: from Star Trek spray, painting it white and ripping the
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: eyebrows off would make the most iconic horror icons look
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: of all time, so iconic, it's just what I'm saying.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: But it's just crazy. Well, because that's a great point
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: because if they had a big budget, he probably never
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: would have thought to go to that store and try
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and buy a cheap mask. He probably would have made
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: a cool mask and it would have never looked the same.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: They would have overthought it, they would have overproduced it
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: and it wouldn't have been the same. And it's just
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: this magic concoction of fate and just on the fly
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: creative filmmaking, kind of just doing it as we're going.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: We got to figure it out as quickly as possible.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: It's just all these things just factored in John Carver
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: doing the music, creating that score because they had such
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: a low budget, not planning on doing it at all,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Like so many things factoring into making this the most
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: memorable horror movie of all time. And then with the
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: face of Michael Myers, we see his real face in
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: this film, and if I remember correctly, I might be wrong.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I might be thinking of Jason. But I think that
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: you see his face in a couple of the sequels
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: and it's deformed or like very gary or burnt or something.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I think, if I remember, I might be wrong. I
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: might be thinking of Jason. However, Jason's face is fucked up.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: So that's fucked up for sure, from the swamp when
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: he comes up that he comes out of the water,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: it's fucked up. But in this film we see his
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: face and he's just a normal guy. He's just like
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: a twenty one year old guy. However, for years after
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Halloween was released, people would tell John Carpenter how horrified
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: they were by Michael Myers's grotesquely disfigured face, which they
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: glimpsed when Laurie pulled the mask off for a moment
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: within the closet. But all they saw, however, was the
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: ordinary face of actor Tony Morin playing the lead role,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: so his face wasn't deformed. It it's just a guy,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: just a guy man, perfectly normal, except for the small
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: knifephoon inflected by Laurie during their struggle in the closet,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: which was created using makeup. It was just a little scratch.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Carpenter cites this example as evidence of the power of
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: suggestion in cinema, that the audience saw a monster on screen,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: so they assumed that he must look like a monster
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: underneath the mask. That's pretty great stuff, man, that's pretty
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: great stuff. How will we use that interesting point and
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: segue into our intermission to have some fun, We'll do
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: some superrelativestive told you wouldn't be able to do it. Superlatives, superlatives, superlatives, Oh,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: there we go. Superlatives about the movie, like the best actor,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: best shots, as well as some movie trivia stuff, and
• 34:25
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• 34:29
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• 37:33
  Speaker 1: the episode. Do you think sounds less? It's different than
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: when we did last episode. Yeah, I think it'll flow better.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: James has been losing sleep over that. I was up
• 37:41
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• 37:43
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• 37:46
  Speaker 1: stressed out. I have been eating in an hour. Moving
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: on to our movie quote, come, it is a long
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: time for you. It is a pretty long time for me,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: to be honest. I ate right before you filmed, which
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: is my fourth meal of the day. Movie quote competition
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: you ready ready? So this is two characters, so we're
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: just going to ignore the bear. Then it's a bear midsummer.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: That's good. If you want justice, go to a whorehouse.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: If you want to get fucked, go to court. That's
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: a great line. Man, What fucking movie is this? Oh
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: my god, I'll give you a hint. It's a courtroom movie.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I've figured. Thank you. Wow, it's so revealing. I don't
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: know primal fear Rich a GEARCHI gea kid a gear.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: That's a good movie. If you've never seen that movie.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Blow your hairback, kid, whatever blows your hair back? People
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: in your books, you get all these books in the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: wrong fucking books. How many times do we quote good?
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: How many times do we quote Matt Damon movies on
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: the show? Quite a lot? Ray Ripley and Google Hunting.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a good cat.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: You're fucking easy. This is for me. It's a fucking joke.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I come in here and watch you screw it up?
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: All right? Moving on two our movie release here, Anthony
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: and listeners, what year did hocus Pocus come out? Fuck?
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Fuck is not the correct answer. Would you like to
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: guess again? Nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety three. No, that
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: was pretty clossless, pretty closs I would seeing since sounds
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: a kid, it's a banger. Watched it last year? Yeah,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: you gave it one star?
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: No?
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I gave the sequel one star? Okay, sequel right? Bad?
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: It's right. I mean, when twenty percent of your movie
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: takes place in a Walgreens, does it really spend that
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: much time in a Walgreen store? It's shocking how much time.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing Walgreens fund in some of the movie for Disney,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: but like, holy shit, why were they there? Were getting there?
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: It was it started off as like a joke, like
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: they're witches. They can't figure out like an automatic door
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and they were getting face cream.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Walk up to they're getting face cream because like they
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: didn't want to get they want didn't want to get old.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: But there's this like new magic to get rid of
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: wrinkles and stuff like that. It's just it started like
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: on paper, it seems like a good joke, but execution wise,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I was just like, nah, sounds terrible, but it just
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: was drawn out so much. Yeah, you gave it one
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: star in letterbox. That movie was not good. I'm sorry.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: And I liked the first one. It's a classic, I
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: don't apologie classic Halloween movie. I don't think anyone gave
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: it a good review. Really, I liked the first film.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: That's why I put it all. Right, what year did
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Primal Fear come out? Nineteen ninety six? Yes, I shouldn't
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: have said ninety six, That's what I was thinking anyways,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: And it helped it egged you in that direction A
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: bit of an egg like it. Well, I knew it
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: wasn't ninety five, knew it wasn't ninety four. Why because
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: ninety four we've done grace years of cinema, because we've
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: talked about years of nineteen ninety five. Two. Yeah, we
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: have dabbled. We've never talked about nineteen ninety five. Well,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I mean I never in my life. And we talked
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: about the year of nineteen ninety five when we talked
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: about heat. So yeah, I mean it's come up. It
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: has Listen, I got it right, and I know you're
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: just surprised. How did you How did you get that right? Jim?
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: How did you get that? Did you look at my
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Google doc? I can't believe it getting grilled over here?
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Get one correct answer? Bullshit? Hey, I'm sorry man, you
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: earned that right. Thank you. You're in that correct answer.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I earn the correct answer. All right, Let's move on
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: to movie pop Quiz time. Anthony and listeners who wrote
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: and directed Give everyone a chance a Nightmare on Elm Street. Okay,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: West Craven, Wes Craven, Wes Craven. I don't know, I whispered, yeah,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: West Craven. Taste the Rainbow. Skittles skittles. No, No, it's
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: like I said, with joke, Someone's like, oh, I mean
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: so it's in a movie to l I read it
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: in a book that actually happened, you know, to be
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: taking the bull by the horns. I like to make
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: bring about this wet you're reading the dictionary got me good?
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: We should we should make I mean, michell, nobody makes
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: me plead my own blood. Nobody.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: All right, this is blaze, No laser blazer, laser, it's
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: laser blaze, then blazer something like that.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, here's my quick question. How many Wes
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Anderson films has Everard Norton acted in Edward Norton. That's
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: a good question. I'm gonna say three five films? Wow, okay,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: so can I guess them if you want? YEA n't
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: have to answer my permission, No, I mean like, go ahead,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: it's a fun part of this question. You may answer,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: you may list them off. Actually no, I don't want
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: to win the rest Kingdom. Yeah, great, Budapest, uh huh,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: French dispatch, yes, as well as I haven't seen the shorts.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's in the shorts and
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: the shorts I gotta watch those. I keep hearing them
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: really good. What I'm blanking Asteroid City, Asteroid City? Fuck?
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: And Isle of Dogs? It's okay? Five? Which dog is
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: he in? Isle of Dogs? I don't know what was
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: the first one? First? What was the first one? The
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: first movie that he was in, win Rest Kingdom? Yeah,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: they didn't anything. Great job, man, thanks even though you
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: got it wrong and only named three out of five
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the thing. Actually it was an okay job. They got
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: sixty sixty percent. That's an F. No, it's a D.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Sixty percent is an F. Sixty is a D. Oh, yeah,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: you're right. Seventies is C sixties is d ds get degrees? Baby, Well,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I don't pass high school. They get to, yes, they
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: do these do you don't understand what the difference between
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: a D N N F is? You can't wait? Can
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: you pass high school? Can pass high school? D's not
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: saying you should, but you can damn you can get
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: and like d's get degrees. I guess yeah, I mean,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: as long as you don't fail. It's a GPI GPA
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: was sucked, dick, though. Yeah, I'm not kissing. You're not
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna be like a one four. You're gonna
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: get one. You're gonna get into like Starbucks Community College,
• 44:42
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• 44:47
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get into Trump University. But no, Yeah, D
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: is not a fail man, it's not good. Like you
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: don't get a D. Study hard, kids, Yeah, don't get these.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Study don't study hard, just study, study, do something, Just
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: do a little bit. But yeah, let's move on to
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: what we got for hadas this week, and he unsubscribes, Anthony,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: what are we cooking with?
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got some, So we got Stephen wrote in
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: our I made a video of we put Dune on
• 45:21
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• 45:24
  Speaker 1: no cuddling with dogs while watching Dune unsubscribed. It's brutal. Also,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, why are those dogs
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: in the kennel? So the kettles, they were in their cages.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: We were about to leave the house. So we were
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: putting a movie on from be entertained, All right, we weren't.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: We Also we were following. We were following the instructions
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: of their owners. Yes, we don't just we don't just
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: keep them in cages all day. Also, I like the
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: cute name kennel instead of what it really is is
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: a cage. Yeah, it's a cage. People just don't like
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: the term cage, so they came up with kettle. It's
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: a kettle. What the fuck is the kettle? He's absolutely correct.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: It's a nice word for cage, smaller cage. No, it's
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: not a cage. It's it's you know, it's a it's
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: a metal frame that keeps them trapped, six walls of steel.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Next up, Dusty Rhodes wrote about are about Midnight Ruin.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: He said, release the tutorial or all unsubscribed. He means
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: like behind the scenes stuff. Okay, so yes, yeh bts, gotcha,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: we'll do that. And then again in the Dune Dog video,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Joshua Stettlitz wrote, how Darry keep that? But that good
• 46:32
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• 46:37
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• 46:42
  Speaker 1: This might be the best new inside as funny as hell. Man,
• 46:50
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• 46:52
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• 46:57
  Speaker 1: a great five star review from Derek. These Bostonians make
• 47:01
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• 47:04
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• 47:07
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• 47:10
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• 47:24
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• 47:26
  Speaker 1: fist of Dude. Now, Anthony, what is your streaming recommendation
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: for this episode? I recommend snow Piercer. It's on Amazon Prime.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Do you know, baby?
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: No?
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I recommend watching v for Vendetta. It's on Max.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: And I'm recommending it because the fifth of November is
• 47:42
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• 47:45
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• 47:47
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• 47:51
  Speaker 1: great one. It's so good. The fifth of November. Now
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: let's get into our super letters. Yes, he failed again. Superlative, superlative.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: It's funny. It's like in my head the year's working.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: In my eyes, you froze and then you looked at
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: me in a second of panic in your face. You're
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: like just like like your your head just like exploded inside.
• 48:22
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• 48:25
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• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so funny. Superlatives all right, Moving
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: into the superlatives. Who is the m VP of Halloween?
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: J C? You know, I mean Jesus Christ, I mean
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: John John Carpenter. You referenced Jesus Christ is like four
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: episodes straight, baby religious. It's a cool guy. But John Carpenter,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I mean he did everything. I agree. I also put
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: John Carpenter because I mean he wrote, directed, was the
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: creative vision, did the music. I mean, it's his baby.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: It's about his hands on a director can be. And
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: he did an incredible job in this movie's obviously we're
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: still talking about it. Forty five years later, we're still
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: talking about it right now. Best Actor, Best Actor, Jamie
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Lee Curtis. I also put Jamie Lee Curtis. She's like
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: the only like the guy who plays the doctor Millimis
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: is great. Paul, I mean, what's this fucking He was
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: in Donald Pleasants, he was in The Gray Escape. He
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: plays the four Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got twenty five
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars for three days of filming on this. It
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: was four days of filming. Forties facts straight. I'm subscribed.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: There's actually a funny story about him I've found. So
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: let's hear it. Man get away to laugh at this story.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Sion shirk. Oh my god, where is it? Sorry?
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: What's seck? I know James is gonna say something really
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: wise right now, I'm trying to spit out my water.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: U fuck, where is it? Well? Anyways, I remember it. Well,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I'll laugh and then we can edit it and you
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: get on when you edit. Ah, right, everyone, that was
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: such a funny story. At the day, he sound like
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: a crazy person. So Donald Pleasance, well he's so he's
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: let me get into the story. Very respected actor in
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: some great iconic films. I mean he was in The
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Great Escape. That was the film of the year that
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: year came out, and of that decade, what was it
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: seventy seventy eight, No, no, no, seventy it was like seventy
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: two something like that. It's pretty early so they he
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: actually wanted John Carper, wanted a bigger name, but he could.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: He settled for Donald Pleasants, Like you said, paid in
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: twenty five thousand for four days of work. So Donald
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Pleasants was just like, fuck it, I'm getting paid and
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: he said too. He said to John Carpenter, he took
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: this job because he has to pay alimony to his
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: wife because his daughter is in a rock band in London,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: and said that you made cool music for your last movie,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Assault on Precinct thirteen, So that's why I took That's
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: why I took this job. And then Carpenter and he
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: ended up bonding and had a great time working together,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: and Pleasants actually appeared in two other John Carpenter films. However,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: I think he was going through rough patch in his
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: life because so the scene, the opening scene of him
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: of driving the car with the nurse to the hospital.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Before they shot that scene, the crew said that he
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: put down two bottles of wine. They were worried that
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't be able to do anything, but he ended
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: up doing the scene perfectly and they were shocked and
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: just elated that he pulled it off. Damn, I gotta
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: watch that scene again, two bottles of wine for one
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: persons in that scene. I know his teeth must be
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: read in that scene. Check nails that sat damn great?
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, holy shit, all right? Who what is the
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: best line in Halloween? All right? My best line from
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Halloween is when Rack and Loomis walk into the Myers
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: for the first time after they come to Haddonfield, and
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: you know, Louis is dragging Bracket around saying that Michael's
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: gonna start killing people in this town. And they go
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: in Toto their house, the MYERSLUSA has abandoned, spent for years,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: but Michael was inside earlier in the morning obviously when
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: he saw Laurie, and they noticed it has been broken into.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: And then they see on the kitchen floor. They stop.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: We don't see it as the audience, but the actress
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: and characters react to a dead dog in the ground
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: and Brackets disturbed and he says, a man wouldn't do that,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: because he's like, there's no way that someone's been here,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: like a man wouldn't do that. And then Loomis like,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: this isn't a man. He got hungry exactly, this isn't
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: a man. Can I Can I say the fucking line
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: you said, you did say it, while he said, I
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: said after you said, I don't know if I have to
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: check the time on that. I didn't stop you last
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: like you did last time. I didn't say the line
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: for you. That might have happened. I'm so excited. Before
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I get into my line, we had one more hater.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: It's a real hater, hater of you, of me. Yeah,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: but what believe it or not? Why believe it or not? Why? Though?
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: So you posted a video on TikTok talking about an
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: anonymous anonymous movie go Over, assuming Warner Brothers for emotional
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: damage due to Warner Brothers delaying and the release of
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Dune Part two, saying that they had nothing else to
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: look forward to for the year. And we have a
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: joke that it was you. Yeah, so I made a
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: selfie video second and then but it might have been me. Yeah.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: And then some guy on TikTok wrote, are you really
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: a fan or have you just been told you're supposed
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: to like Dune? Yeah? What a fucking asshole. I literally
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: have a tattoo like, oh yeah, I just I bought
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the books just to look at them. I just want
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: to be cool, So I like, dude, what, dude, Like,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: that's not a cool thing to do. It's not not
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: even that. Yeah, it's incredibly dorky. To read five Dune
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: books is not a cool thing. It's it's a very
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Hey you're cool, you are cool man, Thanks, you're a
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: fucking asshole. Yeah, I thought it was funny. What a loser.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: It's like Star Wars fans hate themselves, and other Star
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Wars fans like Dune fans like so many of them.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: They're so pretentious. They can be, yeah, because it's like
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: the intelligent person star Wars, that is what people call it.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: But I think that a lot of the fans for
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: the Dune universe are very pretentious. Really, Yeah, dude, the
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: comments we've gotten on their videos, is it because they've
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: been like big fans of the books for a long
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: time and people haven't recognized it until recently. I wouldn't
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: say that it's just that they're complex books. They're not
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: easy read. So I understand like people who are diehard
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: fans and they like hold it so close to their
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: chest and they're very protective of it, but still like
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: easy the fuck up, chill out, dude, it's a movie guy,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Like I remember when we made our first Dune twenty
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: twenty one review, and we got a hater on YouTube
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: that was like a Dune expert. He kept he like
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: tried to uh fact check us on a bunch of things,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: and one of them was the way we pronounced Fremen.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember that. He's like, no, it's pronounced Freeman.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: And then when the movie came out finally, because we
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: didn't hear the word Fremen in the trailer, this is
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: we their preview, they didn't say Fremen and the trailer,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: but that's how I've always pronounced it from reading the books.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's Freman. It's fucking pretty clear. It's one e.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: It's not Freeman, it's Fremen. And then this guy and
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: this is before the movie came out. We did that
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: preview you and he did all these fact check things
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: on because I was explaining things from doing and remember
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: we were like previewing, like oh yeah, terms. And then
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: after the movie came out, I found that comment and
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I was like I was waiting for this movie to
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: come out so I could prove you wrong. That's pronounced freman. Idiots, motherfucker.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: It was like sober War that was back when you
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: used to stitch people sometimes on TikTok. Yeah, I used
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: to used to stitch back to sometimes. I stopped doing that,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: but that was that one. That's the rare time I've
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: like done that, like gone and find a comment of
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: some and I was waiting for the movie to come
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: out to get confirmation that was Chevy. Uh what's it
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: called Billy Madison. They're like putting makeup on. Well, I'm
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: glad I called that guy. That was you about that
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: guy and I just want to say, I'm like sorry
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: for other things. I said, Oh man, it's cool. He
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: just comes up amazing, all right, But that's what I mean,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: like they're so pretentious, like you don't even know the
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: facts about the fact you think you're talking about. Anyways,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: back to the line, my best line. I expect that
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: to take an hour. It didn't take an hour. It
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: feels like it you got somewhere to be. Yeah, I
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: got my lines fifty it's my best line of Halloween.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: After that, one day, I hope I can say the line.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll get to the point of my life where
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I can say my favorite life from Halloween. No, man,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: you gotta wait, wait your turn I had to tell
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: my ancdote. I regret bringing that hater up. I'm just kidding.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: It's a funny story, all right. My favorite line of
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Halloween is was it as funny as the story you
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: told earlier? Yeah, it's funny. It's very funny. It was
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: pretty funny anyways. So it's my line, my favorite lie
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: just let me say oh, I let me compose myself. Yeah,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: you can say it, alright, my favorite line from Halloween.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Finally we made it. It's about to come out. So
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: when the first act in the movie, just say it, man,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: just get it out. It's your turn. Laurie runs into
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: bracket the cop uh jump scare, and he goes, it's Halloween.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Everyone's a title to one. Good scare. It's good line,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: good line. I'm glad that I finally got to say it.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: All right. What's the best scene of Halloween? I think
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the opening long take of Michael killing his sister. It's incredible,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: you know what. I get to agree with you. That's
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: what I picked as well. The opening peel V scene,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: like we mentioned earlier, is the best piece of filmmaking
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: in the whole movie. Yeah, I agree, I agree, And
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: it's just fucking strong opening man. So good. All right,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: what's your stimming recommendation? Oh you missed the best shot?
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Best shot? What's the best shot? Jim? So? My best
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: shot is when Michael kills Bob. Now, he comes out
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: of the closet when Bob's looking around for a beer, right,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: and he grabs Bob by the throat, lifts him in
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: the air with two hands and strangles him. Then he
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: takes his knife and just stakes him to the wall
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: with the knife and let's Bob die and just flail
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: like his body's just hanging. And then Michael like looks
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: at him and like twists his said sideways, like out
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: of curiosity. And it's a great kind of side silhouette
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: shot of them with the light pouring in from the moon.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: My favorite shot is probably when the girls are walking
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: through the neighborhood and Michael just appears at the edge
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: of the bushes. I think that's a great shot. It's
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: very scary. It's very scary because we don't even know.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, we know what he's capable of, but he
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: hasn't killed yet. It's actually a while until he kills
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: the first person. Because one of the strengths of the
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: film is that well that we see him kill, yes,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: because he technically kills somebody on the way he kills
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: a mechanic that where he gets the outfit. But John
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Carpenter plays with the audience a couple of times, especially
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: with the laundry room scene of the girl going into
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: the laundry room and then getting locked and then having
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: to climb to the window, and we're just like he's
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: setting up all these possible kill moments and he doesn't
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: even do it. He's just like messing with the audience.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna set it up a scene where
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: they think he's gonna show up and kill her. Multiple
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: times it doesn't happen. And so I really like that
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: scene because she's like stuck in the window with her
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: foot stuck in like the table. It's like ideal situation
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: for someone to kill her, and yet nothing happens. And
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: he constantly with scenes like that's putting the audience on
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: edge and showing that like he's gonna set it up,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: but he's not gonna deliver to make us guess when
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: things are gonna happen, and it's become a trope. You
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: could say, of these moments where you think someone's gonna
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: get killed. He might as well segue in because that's
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: the end of the superlatives. Superlatives. Yeah, I said it right,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: you're I mean, it's okay, I'm on the edge. Yeah,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: where the trope of someone not getting killed where they
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: should be getting killed, or you're waiting for it to come,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: and then how you're waving your hands waiting for it
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: to come, the murder to happen, waiting for the murder
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: to happen, the execution with the large knife to kill somebody.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: That's what we're waiting for it to happen, at least
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: a specific now. But it doesn't. And it's brilliant because
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: it adds a suspense mixed in with the slow walking
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: the following the voyeuristick, which everyone obviously makes the joke
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: of Mike Myers just gently walking and striding along while
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Laurie can just sprint and escape. It had suspense and
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: it's at the time was awesome and I think it
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: still works so well with this movie. But it's become
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: a trope that thing might be overdone. That's when people
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: get annoyed with it. But this is like the og
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: version of that there's one there's one thing that annoys
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: me with this movie. I understand it happening once, However
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: it happens twice, and that's Laurie incapacitating Michael and then
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: dropping the knife right at his right, right next to
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: his body. Second time, she like throws it in. She
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: might as well place it in his hand like dead
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: corps hair. Take the knife back, so I get. The
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: first time she stabs him in the neck with the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: fucking whatever, the needle, the sewing things, swing, needle, crocheting,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: it's knitting, knitting, nitting needle, knitting needle, whoever, it's a needle.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: She stabs him in the neck with it, and then
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: he like passes out, and then she takes the knife,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: and she's like scared of the knife, so then she
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: drops the knife runs away. I get. I get that shock. Shock.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, I just got to get
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: out of here. I get it. But the second time
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: where she pokes him in the eye with the coat
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: hanger and then she stabs him the chest with the knife,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: and then he clapses onto the floor beside the bed, unmoving,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: and then she comes down of the closet with the
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: knife and then she's like, Okay, I can get out
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: of here. Let me just drop the knife right next
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: to him, throws it at him. He throws it at
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: him and then takes off, And I was like, no,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: she doesn't take off, Oh, she just she cowers into
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: the doorway, turns her back to him and tells the
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: kids that go crying, and then she tells the kids
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: to go get help, facing the doorway, still facing the hallway,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: not looking behind her for like a whole minute, You're like, Laurie,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: look the fuck behind He already came back from Get
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: the fuck out of there. But I think I think
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Carburn does it on purpose. I think he's doing it
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: on purpose. He's messing with the idence. He wants you
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: to strive in us. He wants you to go crazy
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: and want you just screaming at the screen when you're
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: watching it at TV on TV at home, but like
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: in the theater, you're probably just like on the edge
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: of your seat, like, what are you doing you, Eddie,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of there. Stab him, just fucking
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: stab the ship up. Cut his fucking head off. Cut
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: his head off. James is like, cut his face off,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: wear it where his face he take his nose right off.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is what I would do. It's totally normal.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: What's he gonna do without a nose? Can't possibly kill
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: you without a nose? He is he looking first? Not?
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: But again, when you watch the movie, it's like, Laurie,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: take the knife with you, get out of the fucking house.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: It's pretty funny. Yeah, but they do a great job
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: with suspense. And also Billy had so many locations, tight budget,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: tight schedule. We can't she has to go back to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: the house. They they probably could only do so much
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: with what they had to work with. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: there's then they have the two houses are across the
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: street from each other, So you gotta do it with
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: work with what you got. But also the long take
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: filmography in this movie, outside of just that opening long
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: take in the opening credit, there's a ton of long
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: takes that work so well in this movie, and they're
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: actually some pretty complicated ones with like Michael driving the
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: back seat, like following the little kid was a little
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Tommy when the kids bully him, they knock his pumpkin down,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: and then Mike's just stalking him and he follows little
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Mikey down the street and around the corner, it's like
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: a minute and a half. I think there's there's a
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: lot of great long takes in this movie. That John
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Carter is a great director. He's always been a fantastic director,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: and that's why The Thing is so great. Speaking of
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: the Thing, my favorite part of the movie. I always
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: forget that he has about a minute and a half
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: of screen time of the Thing from outer space in
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: this movie. I think from another world, Think from another world,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: just playing on TV on multiple screens. The kids are
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: watching it, and it's just so funny to see this
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: because I'm sure making the Thing was always a dream
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: of his and he ended up doing it. And that's
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: why he didn't do the sequel to Halloween, because he
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: did thing. He did the Thing. But man, to see
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: like the opening credit title sequence of that film with
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: the Thing titled just bursting onto the screen from the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: back light, and then also sequences like the scientists finding
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  Speaker 1: the saucer and stuff, It's just like, it's so amazing
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  Speaker 1: to see how influential the Thing was on John Carpenter
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  Speaker 1: and how much he loved it that he put it
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  Speaker 1: into this movie so much so to me, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it takes up a chalk of screen time showing this
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: the thing in this movie, that's how much he adores it,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: and then being able to make that movie only a
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: few years later, I'm sure. I mean, what a thing
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: for the filmmaker to be able to pull off quite
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: the thing, Quite the thing, but the thing to do.
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  Speaker 1: The original came out in nineteen fifty one, and it's
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: kind of like a classic Hollywood monster flick in a
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: lot of ways, Like it's just like a guy with
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: prosthetics and a suit versus what he did with nineteen
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: eighty two version of The Thing, which is one of
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: the best horror movies ever made. And I think that's
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: an awesome thing that he got to do. It's a
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: little different than when Chris Nolan made Following and one
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: of the apartment doors had a Batman sticker on it.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Like Chris Nolan was not a well known director at all.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: It's his first project he made on ten thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't like foreshadow like I'm gonna make a Batman
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  Speaker 1: movie someday. This was kind of, like you could say,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: like more of a tease of like, not only do
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: I love the thing, I'm doing this very much on purpose.
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  Speaker 1: Putting this in the movie for a minute and a half.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean maybe he used a like, dude, let
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  Speaker 1: me make the thing remake. The Batman one was just
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: an accident, yea. He said that. He said that there
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: was a batman symbol on his friend's apartment door and
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: it was just there there. Man, Mike Myers. What a
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: character they came up with. Born evil. Mike Myers actually
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: didn't speak a line of dialogue until two thousand and
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: seven and Rob Zombies Halloween. Fun fact, and twelve actors
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: have played Mike Myers in thirteen movies, including some of
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: the crew even filling in for scenes, so if you
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: count them, it's up to sixteen and six people actually
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: played Mike Myers in the original film Halloween, and even
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Deborah Hill, the writer and producer. So in the original
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Halloween movie released nineteen seventy eight, Michael Myers was actually
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: played by six actors as a young child. Obviously, in
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the movie, Michael's played by Will Sandon,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: and the first person camera sequence when the young Michael
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: takes a knife from the kitchen and goes upstairs to
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: kill Judith, Michael's hand that comes on screen to take
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: that knife was actually played by Debrah Hill, the co
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: writer and producer. Adult Michael Myers, or the shape as
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: he was listed in the credits, was portrayed mostly by
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Nick Castle, and all the scenes where the mass killer
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: is stalking about. However, when Michael o' myers is briefly
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: unmasked by Laurie Strode, the bear faced Michael was Tony Morin.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: In addition, scenes in which Michael was required to break
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: through barriers were performed by Tommy Lee Wallace. Since he
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: had created many of the props used on the film,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: he knew the best way to destroy them. Finally, for
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Michael's climactic fall from the bedroom terrace, stuntman James Windburn
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: don the Michael Myers mask to perform the maneuver. That's awesome,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: So cool like to have the crew involved because it's
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: slow budget. And another great fact about being low budget
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: is all of the actors wore their own clothing for
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: their roles, and since there was no money for a
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: cost and department, Jamie Lee Curse actually went to a
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: local J. C. Penny and bought all of Laurie Strode's
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: wardrobe herself. She spent less than one hundred dollars for
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: the entire set. She used. I think she wears three
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: outfits in the course of the film, something like that. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: so the first outfit at school, second outfit at home,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: and then she changes into her night outfit for the
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: rest of the film for babysitting. Yeah, and then I mean,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Jamie Lee Curtis, everyone knows her mother was Janet Lee
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: from Psycho, and Deborahill was quoted saying, I knew casting
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Jamie Lee would be great publicity for the film because
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: her mother was in Psycho. So it's one of the
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: major factors for how she got her role as Laurie Strode.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: And the name Laurie Strode was based on one of
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Carpenter's ex girlfriends apparently. And Jamie Lee Curtis is just
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: terrific in this movie. She's really great, She's got it is.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: I mean he wanted to kill her killer for break
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: it up with him. That's a good point. And this
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: is actually Jamie Lee Curis's feature film debut as well. Wow,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: she was in a TV show before this. Yeah, and
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: she actually Jamie Lee curs was so disappointed with her
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: own performance that she became convinced she would be fired
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: after the first day of filmmaking. However, when her phone
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: rang that night and it was John Carpenter on the phone,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: even though she was certain it was the end of
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: her career, Instead, Carpenter called to congratulate her and tell
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: her that he was very happy with the way things
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: had gone. The fact that she was Gently's mother probably
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: didn't hurt, though she wasn't his first choice, so according
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: to Deborah Hill, Jamielee Curis was the second choice. His
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: first choice was from an actor who was the daughter
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: of a member of the Lassie cast. So I guess
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: it's always just been nepotismotism, nepotism. Netos the daughter of Lassie.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: She's a great performer. She only barks, but you know,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: she barks her ass off. She can bark in Spanish.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: It's great, But I think Halloween also aesthetically has one
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: of the best horror posters of all time. It's great
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: because it's obviously the hand wielding the knife, which is
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: blended into the evil jack O lantern, but also the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: guy who designed this poster. There's in the knuckles of
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: the hand holding the knife an open face man screaming
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: with his mouth open. It's really interesting. He said that
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: he didn't plan on doing it, but while he was
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: designing it, he kind of realized that he created an
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: open face, mouth screaming person inside the knuckles of the
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: hand holding the knife, and then it's it's pretty airy.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: So then he's like, oh, wow, I tried to do it.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: I couldn't have done it, but it was just sort
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: of like an evil, sinister accident. I never noticed that because, yeah,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: it looks like he shadowed it on the left side
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: of the hand to really make the face out. Yeah,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: with deep shadows. WHOA, that's crazy. I never noticed that.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: It's a legendary poster. It's a face. Yeah, it's an
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: amazing poster. It's just really fantastic. I love it. It's an
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: amazing movie, and Halloween's iconic, and we love this movie.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: It's one of my annual watches for spooky season. Got
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: to get this in every single year. And I mean,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: it's everything about it, man, I love it, even the campiness,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: even the stuff that ticks people off that you're like
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: screaming to the TV. I screamed of the TV three times,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: but it was fun, Like I had a fun time
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: screaming up I'm like, get the fuck out of there, Laurie.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: But I know to watch with people, Yeah, it's a
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: good watch. It's a great watch with people. Absolutely, Like
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: I would love to do one of those outdoor movies
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: with Halloween. Oh yeah, that would be a fun experience.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: We had. We put our projector on the wall and
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: it was like a ninety inch screen. Bro that was
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: sitting it was like one hundred ten. It was awesome, huge.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: I hadn't done that yet. It was massive. It looked
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, but I had a blast. And I mean,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: we know this is gonna get turned into a verse
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: very soon, multiple shows and movies for sure. And I
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: think you brought up a Season of the Witch Halloween three,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: that would be something they'd use as a Probably the
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: culture'll definitely be something because Season of the Witch it's
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: it's an anthology of short stories, so probably using characters
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: from that, or just making new characters based off Season
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: of the Witch, making a horror anthology and then just
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: going in that direction. That's probably when I'm assuming they're
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: going to do an addition to new Michael Myers led
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: Halloween movies. Yeah, I mean, maybe they'll be good. We'll see.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: You can't get much worse than the new ones. You
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: can't so evil, you can evil dies tonight. You can
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: only go up from there. So hey, that's the bright side.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: You can only go up. Bro. I'm sorry. I love
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: Laurie as a character, but when she gets stabbed brutally
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: with that huge knife and then is walking around the
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: hospital hours later after after serious intestinal surgery, come on,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: I love her, but like, that's makes no sense. Everything
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: in that hospital was just read. Yeah, the hospital sequences
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: were not great, But this guy keeps making horror movies now.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: I bet they'll get a cool director for the Merrimax one.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, I hope so. But you
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: got anything else on Halloween. Halloween's awesome. Man, It's iconic.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: It's I said it the other night when we put
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: it on, I was like, it's like the it's the first,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: Like it's like the ultimate independent film. Yeah, in terms
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: of success, success and how it was made, you know
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: what I mean? It really is. I mean, on a
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: budget of three hundred thousand, grossing seventy mil, twenty day shoots,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: absolutely insane. Yeah, it's us it's bonkers. Not to mention
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: just it might be the most successful independent film of
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: all time, not just box office wise, but the legendary
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: status and still going. It might be the most successful
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: in the paid film become one of the biggest brands
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: in film history without a doubt it probably, Yeah, I
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: would classify that then. Yeah, man, think of all of
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: the times that's been watched and all the posters, all
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: the costumes, think about all the costume to mention, you
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: know the VHSS you wore, you wore out as a kid,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: watched it seventeen times. You watched Airheads and Halloween back
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: to back every night all night. He's on repeat. All right,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for tuning into this episode of Halloween.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Happy Halloween to everyone. Today's the thirtieth, but tomorrow's Halloween,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: so have a great time. Send us pictures of your
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: costumes and everything. We'd love to see what you're dressing
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: up as. Have a safe night, eat your candy, has
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: some good time at the parties and everything you go to.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: We did. If you were tuned in with us, We
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: had our stream with on yesterday on Twitch. Was the
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: first time we ever did that. That's when we were
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: not dressed up today because were dressed up for that. Yeah, well,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: I wore a Lost Boys T shirt. It's not dressed up.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a shirt. Man, it's fucking spooky,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: said a costume. It's fucking David screaming with his fangs out.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Is it a costumes not a costume, But it's spooky
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: dressed up? You just wore a T shirt? All right?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Well here this is my hand. Shut up, it's an
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: evil hand. Anyways, that was fun. The stream with that
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: was great. I'm sure we'll do another one soon, but
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: it was a good test run. It was a blast,
• 1:13:58
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