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#669 - Blxst Talks New Album, Home Invasion, Leaving Red Bull Music, Empire Partnership, LA Music & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Bootlet Cav podcast Boutlet keV show my brother. He's got
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: a new album coming out, Labor of Love.
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: Labor of Love six twelve. Man we out, Yes, that's
• 0:12
  Speaker 2: next weekend, next week, next week, next Friday.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: Last is in the building?
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir boo Let Cav. What's up? Man?
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: So, man, I haven't seen you in a minute. Last time,
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: I think we did something together. We were at my
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: pizza restaurant. This was like when you drop the debut album,
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: which feels even weird to say now because it felt
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: like you're like third album. But it's fine.
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: Hey, you know, it get political when they say debut
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: because I feel the same way you feel.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: But hey, so that was like you've you've come a
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: long way. That was about it almost two years ago.
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was twenty twenty four.
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that.
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: Was the last time dropped.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: That is crazy. A lot has happened since then. You
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: Red Bull Records is no longer a thing period, right, Yeah?
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: So you had a great run with him, by the
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: way I did. Now you're with Empire, who tried to
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: get you in the first place, yep, back in the day.
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How you feeling, man, how are you feeling in twenty
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: twenty six.
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: Man, I feel like I'm back to square one. It's
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of highs and lows that I've been going
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  Speaker 2: through since twenty twenty four. But in a nutshell, I
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: would say I feel like I'm in control, Like I'm
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: back to the roots, back to the basics, And that's
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: what Labor of Love represents. Yeah, doing it for the
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: love of the game.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like because I feel like you have
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: had so many quote unquote hit records and had so
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: much success, like immediately and then like you kind of
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: like got boxed in where people will be like every
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: blast song sounds the same, but then your debut album
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: comes out and you dibbled and dabbled sonically a lot. Yeah,
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: but it seemed like people didn't like fuck with it.
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: I thought it was great.
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: That's crazy that you say that, because I just had
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  Speaker 2: this converseation last night, like people say your shit sound
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: insane and you do something different and they like it
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: don't even exist, bro, Like.
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: Did you not hear the first album song? Like I
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: feel like it didn't sound like you were like trying hard.
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  Speaker 1: You just made some different experiments, Like there was some
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: shit on that album.
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you that was executive produced by sound Wave too.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I was tapped in with different cultures. You know,
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: when you first get in the game, it's like you're
• 2:23
  Speaker 2: doing what you do and then you start meeting other producers,
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: then get signed and it's like you should work with
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  Speaker 2: this person. So I went through the ringer of working
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: with different people. But yeah, I had fun making that album.
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: It was It was my most experimental album. You know.
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: It was after I was traveling the world, so I
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: was working with international artists and stuff like that. Got
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: fade on there. The fade Man shout.
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  Speaker 1: Out brought to a whole new audience exactly.
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  Speaker 2: He brought me out all the way in Colombia too
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: to do that song. I brought him out at Coachella too.
• 2:53
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: But yeah, we're back to me fully producing it.
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: How was the initial response to the album or maybe
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: maybe not the album, like having like a chosen on it,
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: or having the success that like maybe you thought it
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  Speaker 1: might have had, because I do I remember when you
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: came out at was it that rolling loud and you
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: had the crazy performance? It was fucking a movie dog
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: la or it was la Okay? Yeah, but did did that?
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  Speaker 1: Like I feel like being an artist has to be
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: like a roller coaster experience because like anything you put
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  Speaker 1: out is like an artistic you know, it's an artistic
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  Speaker 1: representation of where you are at the time. You care
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  Speaker 1: about it, you love it. You're vulnerable enough to release
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: your art to the world. Like did that album's I
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: guess lack of like popping or doing as well as
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  Speaker 1: maybe some of your previous stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Did it?
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  Speaker 1: Did it make you question anything to throw you off
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  Speaker 1: track at all?
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  Speaker 2: Did he throw me off track? Yeah? I mean I
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: think it kind of make you self reflect because you
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: especially when you come in a game on fire, you know,
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: you back to back of like just scorching, just scorching everything.
• 3:59
  Speaker 2: I had double Excel, Freshmen tours, multiple Grammy nominations, Kendrick features. Yeah, so,
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: and then I dropped my debut album quote unquote, and
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  Speaker 2: yeah it was. It was a weird time honestly too,
• 4:16
  Speaker 2: because a lot of other ship was going on in
• 4:19
  Speaker 2: my real life, right you know. So twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 2: is when I started managing myself. I haven't had a
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  Speaker 2: manager since twenty twenty four. Yeah, and I went on
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  Speaker 2: tour no management, So it was a lot of shit.
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: I was learning you're having to deal with that all
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: of the shit on your own.
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so you know, it was it was a
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: lot of ups and downs that kind of affect the creativity.
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  Speaker 2: I love the music, but as far as like the
• 4:46
  Speaker 2: aesthetic outside of it. I dyed my hair blond and
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: all kind of crazy shit. Yeah, you know, and I
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: felt like I was, like, looking back, I was kind
• 4:52
  Speaker 2: of like in a rebellious mind state if I had to.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was also conceptually dope, like you like,
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: it was like a quadruple disc format. Everything kind of
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  Speaker 1: tied in together.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And I had to uh the short film with
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  Speaker 2: it and everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I even like when you did the rollout,
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: you're running around and you ended up doing something what
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: up though? But you were just running around the city.
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: It felt it was it was. It was crazy. But
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed the album a lot. But I always wonder
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: when that happens to an artist, like where you just
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: didn't miss for so long and then like that album
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: kind of comes and goes and you're like, well, fuck
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: does that? Like, like where how do you regroup artistically
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: and how do you regroup mentally? Because I can only
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: imagine like if you you can let that noise get to.
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: You, right, I think you gotta just stick to what
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, on that album, it was a lot
• 5:42
  Speaker 2: of chefs in the kitchen, I would say too, Like,
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: even though I had my management situation was falling apart,
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: it was a lot of like different chefs in the kitchen.
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  Speaker 2: I was working with new people, you know. In a nutshell,
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  Speaker 2: it felt good in the in the midst of creating it.
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: But I think looking back, you just gotta reflect on
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: what didn't connect and what did connect. A lot of
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: people knew me for a certain sonic and it kind
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: of went left, you know, And I think it was
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: a little bit too early. Like if I would have
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: dropped this album I'm dropping now then dropped, I'll always
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: confined you. I felt like it would have connected way crazier.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So do you think this new album, Labor of
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  Speaker 1: Love is more back to the roots of I mean,
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: obviously this stuff we've heard from the album to me,
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: I mean I got to listen to I only got
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: through about half of the album, but it does feel
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  Speaker 1: like some classic blast Yeah.
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what was your question now?
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: I was just say, do you feel like with this
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  Speaker 1: album you kind of got got back to the roots
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: of like, yeah, what we know, blast to be kind
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: of came into game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say for me, like this album, I
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: just got back to what I felt was missing in
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: the universe, like why I started making music just for
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: the love of the game. Like I said, so just
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: me being boxed in in the studio, pulling from my
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: inspirations that made me started making music in the first place. Ye, yeah,
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: you know so, I think naturally the fans will connect
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: to that.
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: The other thing, I feel like when you came in,
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: you were you were damn near like the West Coast
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  Speaker 1: RUSS because you were in charge of I remember the
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: artistic direction and like all your videos look so crazy
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: and like you were in charge of the videos and
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: you were. I think you were in charge of the
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: artwork too. You're mixing, your mastering, you're producing everything, so
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: like every part of the creative process you're touching. I'm
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: sure the bigger you get, it's a lot easier to
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: let some of that creative process slip away exactly because
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: you're so busy now and you're like, well maybe if
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: I you.
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, I think you you, like I said, you
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: go through the industry you start doing, you start wearing
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: yourself thin. It's just so much shit you gotta do.
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: Especially when you first in the game and you making
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: a name, it's like, go do this show, go do this,
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: do this, meet this person, meet this producer, to where
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: you kind of like lose track of yourself and it's
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: important for you to slow down. Sometimes it's kind of
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: hard to like tell an artist that that's fresh in
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: the game and on fire. But slowing down, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's been the best part of everything up until this
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: point for me, Like I've been dropping probably two projects
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  Speaker 2: every year, from the sixth tape to my own projects.
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  Speaker 1: this album. Can you talk to me? About what was
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: did you have like a labor of love breakdown? Like
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: what's behind that title and kind of what the theme
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: of this album is.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: Labor of love is enjoying the process of it, you know,
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: instead of just focusing on the destination. It's like, I
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: have to embrace the journey of it. I think if
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: you too focused on the destination and what you can
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: get from out of a situation, you kind of lose
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: sense of the love and the arc that goes into
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: the details of what you're building. And a lot of
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: times when when I've been dropping albums and stuff, the
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: happiness really come from in the midst of those sessions,
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: you know, when you're producing, or when you find that
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: right snare, when you find the right kick or the
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: right line. So I just want to live in a
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: process and enjoy the journey over over everything because it's
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: gonna come to an end one day.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw you doing like a beat breakdowns and shit,
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is like blasts in his pocket
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: if he's fucking making the bead to Yeah, are you
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: still like on this album? How much of the album
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: did you handle the production? So you did everything?
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I brought it in some live instrument, like if.
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: You need some strings or something, you need somebody coming.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: Right right right outside of that. Yeah, hands on with everything,
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  Speaker 2: And I've been documenting the process. So I bought a
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: Sony camera and I just throw it in the corner
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: of the room and just document the process because I
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: kind of look at it now, it's like like a
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: visual diary, like something for my kids to have in
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: the future. Like imagine if you had like a like
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: raw videos of your grandpa way back then.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, it'd be crazy.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: So that's that's the type of ship I've been doing lately.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: Do you uh on the on this album? I know
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: you've been working with Big You got a record with
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: Big Sad. Out shout out to Big Sad, who's going crazy.
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like you have this other guy named Mazi
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: that you have this like crazy just just I feel
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: like I just been trying to throw the idea of
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: you and Mazzi doing a whole album in the universe
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: for like five six years. Is he on the album?
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: He's not on the album.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, he's not any more progress on doing a Masi
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: Blast album.
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: Nah, bro, I haven't really been tapped in with Bro
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: as of recently. We got a bunch of songs that's
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: just never been released naturally, but we never really tapped out.
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: He did do the project with Kaitlin too. He did
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: you know that that went crazy? But nah, I got
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: to tap in with Devo. Man, he been going crazy
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: in a basketball space.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: I've seen that having like g Herbo play against like
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: Skill a baby or whatever. Yeah, man, he's going crazy.
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: If you could do a joint album with somebody besides
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: obviously you would be no have a crazy history. Is
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: there anybody else you could see yourself walking in with.
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: I had talks with doing a project with Larry June.
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: We had a couple of joints in a cut, but
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: it never came to fruition. But that would be one
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: of the least. This was like around the time when
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: we was working and Heavy. I think we got like
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: two songs out, but it was around that time.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe you guys are both on Empire now he's not
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: Empire ere.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it'd be very easy, Yeah, but you
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: know he's doing his thing too.
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's a little bit easier for
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: you because I don't know what the politics were with
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: Red Bull, but you kind of were red Bull music,
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: like the most successful artists ever been signed there. Kept
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: the lights on. But it is still label, which I'm
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: assuming it's like a little bit, you know, you still
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: got to get some stuff approved. I'm sure it's an
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: unconventional label system. But do you feel like being with
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: a company like Empire, you're able to do more random
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Like Hey, I feel like I want to just throw
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: some shit out with Let's say you and Larry June
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: got up in the Bay in two weeks and like, yo,
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: let's drop this ship next week.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the flexibility is way more flexible
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: at like an Empire versus you know, Red Bull. Red
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: Bull was really like behind the scenes, really heavy about
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: the brand, even though they didn't want to cross pollinate
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: the side with the actual brand, right Like I wanted
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: a can for the longest time, like my face on
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: the can y, but I never ever got that opportunity
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: because they was like, naw, the music is the music,
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: the brand is the brand.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: Were you able to walk away from that situation with
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: your masters?
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: Absolutely? I started off with only my master's fire that's
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: gonna be forever.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: So now that they're not a thing. Is your catalog
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: still with them? Where does the catalog lie?
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a licensing deal.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: So they still get to license it.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: Right until a yeah period of time fire.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: So then you'll just get it back and you just oh,
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: that's a big that's fire.
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  Speaker 2: I dropped the video on that too, some of my
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: Instagram about talking about three versions and the masters and
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: stuff like that.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: That's awesome, that's awesome. I want to talk to you
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. A lot of people have
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: been dealing with the same thing, but you and your
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: family would do something traumatic. Someone broke into the house.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: How did that kind of change shit for you? Man?
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Because I've been in that situation where somebody has broken
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: into my shit took my shit. When I I mean,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: it makes you want to like really yeah, it's just
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: a certain level of violation you feel. That is Yeah,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: very hard to communicate to people if they have never
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: gone through that.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: Man, were You're the first person that asked me that?
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: I think, how did it change me? Definitely made me
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: more alert. I definitely bought more guns up, the security system,
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. I had actually moved out that house
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: after it happened, probably like two months ago, I mean
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: two months after the situation, but just recently I've moved
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: back because I felt like as a representation for my kids,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: I don't want to them to see like, yeah, somebody
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: can move you at your own house, because I had
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: uncomfortable time sleeping there around that time.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: You know, but that area you're in, it that has
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: happened to a lot of yeah.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: That's what I found out. A lot of people that
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: lived there, like different celebrities been tapping in like once
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: it happened, like, bro, that's the same situation happened to me.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: And it's almost like they'll I mean, unfortunately, if you
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: live in LA it's not the hardest thing to figure
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: out where famous people live. They do damn TMZ tours
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: the people's right, So it's not the crazy.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: That was the one thing I hated, Like when it happened,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: the news was outside the house the whole and it's like, you.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Know, they tell you what and there's and where you're at,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Like there's only a couple of neighborhoods it could be,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like, but I
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: can just imagine it's like you're a famous person and
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, like if people want to find out if
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: you're even if you're like Angelina Jolie or somebody, they
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: can find out where you live and they'll be like, oh,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Angelina Jolie's on set filming because you're out of town.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: And yeah, dude, that shit's horrible, dude.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the hardest part. Like I was in
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: New York when it happened, and my two boys was
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: at the house.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: It just felt like they were with their nanny, grandma grandma.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, damn. It just felt like a helpless, hopeless situation.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: And it was in the middle of the night. It
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: was probably like four o'clock in the morning, so imagine
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: waking up. My son said, he said, the bad guys
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: are in the house, like he facetimey on his iPad said,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: the bad guys in my stomach. I just I didn't
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: know what to do, who to call. It was crazy why.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad you're back in the house though.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we back in it, man. You know, it changed
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: me for the better too, because you just can't be
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: caught lacking, you know, and.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I think too, like we just I mean, we all go.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I got to the point where I feel like I
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: was moving on too comfortable. It's like you always gotta
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: kind of be on your keep your head on the
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: swivel out here.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Man, just gotta stay ready. I got protective training for
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: my dog and my doverman about to get another dog.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: And even like even I tell everybody, it's like, it's
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: a pain in the ass to get a concealed permit
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: out here, but fuck, man go.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Through that you're talking about like to carry on the ship.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if you're like.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: I heard, it's actually easier.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: It became easier since COVID because before, well, shit, I
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: would say like anything, like before twenty twenty two, it
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: was like a pain in the ass. But now because
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: all the robberies and shit, they kind.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Of were like, all right, we gotta they gotta be
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: more flexible to it.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because otherwise you're just gonna have everybody out here
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: running around with guns anyway, trying to protect themselves.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: The wild Wild West.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Man, what uh what features can you talk about on
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: the project?
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: That?
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: That that you I mean obviously uh, big sads on
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the album. Who else you got on the album?
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: So this album is real tight Kit, It's just big
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: sad Sasha Kibo. I just announced her and then we
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: got Chyenne Right on there as well. Chyenne Right is
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: a crazy singer from La She does background singing on
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: my on every tour that I've ever been on. So
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: if you know Blast and you've been to a show,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: you know who Cheyenne Right is.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: So keeping it super tight, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fire.
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• 19:42
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• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Ty whoever, is like really good at the hook making.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Once you catch a couple of records, you end up
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: kind of being a very high and demand person for
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: artists to reach out to to get hooks for. Obviously,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: you got the Kendrick feature with NAS. You know what
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Uh, there's some other random East Coast shit
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: you did that I can't even think about right now.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I did some shit with Buster to run.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Bust, but you were. I feel like like that has
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: to be a cool thing to go through where like
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: everyone's hitting like, Yo, we need a blast feature. We're
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: trying to go to radio, we need a blast feature,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: or yo, we need something that's gonna be commercially successful.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: It's got to be kind of like it's gotta feel
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: good to be like Bust. The rhymes reached out, NAS
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: reached out like was there a feature that you did
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: that just like meant the most you. That was just
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: kind of crazy to obviously. Besides I think Kendrick we
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: could put.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I think NAS was like the one, yeah, you know,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: like it's because I've got uncles and shit that like
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: looked up to each East Coast rat of course, so
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: that one was just like okay, I'm here now, like
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: you can't tell me nothing, Like no, if NAS stamped me,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: what can you really tell me? As far as like
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: hip hop and yeah, that was one of the ones.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: That was Was that something you guys did in person together?
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we actually did that was at a hip.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Hooist hit studio. Yeah, is that was that childie?
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's crazy because like I don't
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people understand like NAS was doing
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: all that ship there, so it'd be like how does
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Dom Kennedy end up on the Knas album? Be like, well,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: it's because he's fucking in LA and hit boys calling
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: everybody to pull up exactly.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: They had a crazy culture over there. I think I
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: don't even know if hit Boy got that spot. I
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: think Bro moved to Miami or some crazy.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Well hit moved to the fab Factory in North Hollywood,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: which is Hella deep in the valley. But then he
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: got robbed. He posted, Yeah, I saw that, So then
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: he moved out and now my friend does merch out
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: of his old studio, which is random. They have machines
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: and ship so I don't know where it went to,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: but yeah, but that spot in particular was a very
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: interesting place to have a studio because Yeah, when he
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: got robbed, I was like, bro, you had They were
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: doing those Neon streams with the streamer dude Neon, and
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I went over there was just like fucking just the most.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: It's like a party. I'm like, dude, all these people
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: now know how to get in the back of the studio.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: But shout out to Hit, who's been on fire? You
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: and Hit would kind of go crazy if you just
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: like project with him and let him just be like, look, dude,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I don't want to handle any of the production. Let's
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: let's just cook. I'm gonna do what I do. You
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: do what you do? That'd be crazy. What has been something?
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I always talk about how dope Empire is and Nima
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and Ghazi those guys. You've been around some incredible minds
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: in the music industry, but is there anything dope You've
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: been able to kind of take away from being being
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: over there and working closely with uh what I'd like
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: to call the gruesome twosome Gazi and Nima. I mean
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: that a positive way.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I think I just got my foot in the door
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: over there, so you know, I'm still learning in the
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: ropes only put out a couple songs so far. Luckily
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: we made it to the point where we can put
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: out a full body of work. But my experience there
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: has been nothing but amazing so far. I've been working
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: real close with Jada and Gentry as far as the album,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: you know, putting it out, and they've been helping me
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: with different activations like I'm more about the like fan
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: engagement for sure.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: How can we always done?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah? How can we you know, tap into the community
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: and the fans. So we've been able to do some
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: cool stuff like for Mother's Day we did the Lamart
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Park Mothers Giveaway. I saw that, you know, stuff like that.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I'm finna do something for my elementary school in LA
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: and then some for my high school and the Ie Fire.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: So yeah, there's been some cool activations going on.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Where do you feel like West Coast Music what's West
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Coast aside? LA music is right now because we had
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: this like huge moment with Kendrick and the pop out
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: and Sisson Kendrick tour in the super Bowl, and I
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: feel like, uh, Shoreline has done a really good job
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: of kind of like stepping up to the plate and
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: like delivering records and delivering you know, some tour stuff.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: But I feel like, as in a totality like LA music,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it fully took advantage of.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Like the catch at that moment you're talking about, like
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: the album or just.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I mean just like the music that came off of it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Like I felt like like it was the time for
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: everybody to like come super correct with like records, and
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I just felt like only a few people kind of did. Yeah,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: But I wonder what your thoughts are just on where
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: LA hip hop is now, because Bro, look, I mean
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you've kind of been the face of it, like you
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and Roddy, I think are the two guys that kind
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: of carried the city on the radio outside of Kida
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: for the last six years.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say this. I think it's all perception
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: of what you feel LA is because sometimes we kind
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: of contract contradict ourselves and hyper focus on one segment
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: of what LA is like, we still got other people
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: going crazy and have been going crazy during the whole.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Tyler the creator exactly.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I gotta say, Tyler, Tyler dojah kat, You're right Tiger still.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: That because I like, literally just fucking Tiger. No ship Tiger,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: but Tyler exactly.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Even Shortline Mafia they doing arenas and ship like that.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: So going crazy.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: So when you hyper focus on one little underground, you
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: know obviously it's gonna be trials and tribulations because it's
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: a big gap between a Kendrick Tyler versus was bubbling
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: in the streets of LA. But I think like more
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: collaborations like what Kendrick did. I think that helps out
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: a lot. You see a z Chik Finna go crazy.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Just waiting for needs to just drop. I heard his
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: album is fucking crazy. I think it's done.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Man, I'm waiting for it. I'm waiting for Roddy to
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: drop again.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: The Navy album. Please, yes, please, have you heard any
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: of it? No?
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Not at all, man, They top secret over there, shout
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: out Kifa.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Uh you know what one of my
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: what's the the hand of God record you had God with,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: it's one of your best. I think that might be
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: my favorite song.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Heres, bro, that song is so fucking cold. Bro. Shout
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: out Ramble too. Niggas gotta pop out side. That's what
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: It's like like Ramble did the pop out.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Ain't gonna lie. Sometimes I'd be like I'd be feeling
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: like I'm the only one, because I do feel like
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: part of the success got to be when other people
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: going crazy at the same time when you going crazy,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: because that helps the momentum.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I feel like you've done such a great job of
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: doing music that aesthetically is true to LA but also
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: it's commercially viable nationwide, and I think Roddy did a
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: good job of that. Obviously Kendrick has done a good
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: job of that. But I think it's like I feel
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: like a lot of I think YG has done a
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: good job of that throughout the years. But I think
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: it's like being self conscious of like you could do
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the West Coast Chitlin circuit, which is like all the
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: way up to Seattle and then probably the Texas, New Mexico,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: obviously Phoenix, Denver. But it's like, how do you do,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: like New York sell it out? How do you do,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Dayton Ohio? I want sell it out in Miami, you
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. I remember you guys did that
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that Red Bull event in Miami Rolling Loud weekend, like
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Yeapy, that shit was a movie though.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Bro I sold out in London. I think it was
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: like a two thousand venue before and that was around
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: the time when I only did the Roxy out here.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: So it's like moments like that I attribute to like
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Roddy Rich going crazy as well, because it's in the
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: same eCos same with Beano or Kalin, Like that wave
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: when we was all pushing at the same time, even
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: if we wasn't directly collaborating, it was just a momentum
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: wave that was also.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Like very similar like Vibe where everybody's melodic, everybody can sing,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, great songwriting, you know what
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I'm saying?
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Would you and you know, have you guys talked about
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: doing another six tape?
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Oh for sure?
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know he's got prolific. Got to put out
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: with Nipsey.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's at the top of my list. You know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: we just got to get on the same accord. But
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I want to do fifty six, says I want to
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: work on six tap fifty one because I felt like
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: that's kind of a barrier. We gotta push instead of
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: just doing three, four or five tapes, like how many?
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: How long can we go?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like you guys need to do the next one,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and then when you do it, do like a like
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: a little sixth city run do fucking Yeah, do La,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: do Phoenix, do fucking Vegas, do the brooklye Vegas, do
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the Bay.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: We actually did that for six tap three, did you. Yeah?
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: We went on small little I think it was only
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: like four dates. Seattle, Vegas, La, Seattle, be going up
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: dog Yeah, Seattle. I love Seattle. I always, not always,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: but my first tour. I started there when I first
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: ever toured, and the energy just was contagious.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: So Fade brings you out. You go to Columbia. How
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: is Columbia? I heard it as a movie.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy, but I was only out there
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: for like maybe twenty four hours.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Match so you went in and did what you do,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: got the funk out?
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean but it was fun though different world.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: It was a different world. It was hell of traffic.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I feel like I didn't get the full experience stuff
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: because we just was sitting in traffic, went to soundcheck,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: went back to the room, and going back to the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: room took like three hours just sitting in traffic. Then
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: we went back to the venue. Was it.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: No that the beaches?
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I think right, Yeah, it was beautiful out there.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: What besides Columbia or has there been a what's the
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: craziest place your music is taking you?
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I would say places like Amsterdam, Paris, Australia. I would
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: say Australia was the funniest show. Melbourne, Sydney. I did
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: a show in Gold Coasts and these was all my
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: personal tours.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: They're like eighteen hours ahead or some ship.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just crazy.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: They're like living in tomorrow day time.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ahead of time.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: It's like an up side down America. That's what I heard.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I said that when you flush the toilets that go backward, Yeah.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Because they're like it's like an americanized ass place from
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: what I hear.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they tapped. They love LA culture too, like more
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: than any other I don't know what it is, but
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Australia they like super tapped in to like underground LA shit.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they got the wildest animals there. Man, I'll be
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: found all these YouTubers and beyond. They're out there. They
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: just be fucking catching, fucking sharks and steam raising ship.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: My only thing I ain't see one kangaroo out there.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: That'd be disappointing. I'd be like, I need to go
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: see we need to hit this whatever they call the Safari.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I need a kangaroo. They got koala bears out there.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I ain't see not one exotic animal. Man.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back to the podcast. Have you done the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Tokyo run yet?
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: No?
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, we gotta make that happen. I got the
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  Speaker 1: homies out there of the Bookie Yeah, connect me Tokyo
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  Speaker 1: is a movie, bro.
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  Speaker 2: I've been trying to get out there since it's twenty twenty.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: It is a movie out there. Yeah, what if you
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: weren't doing music full time and you were forced to
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: explore other professions? What do you think you gon up doing?
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Probably be like a director or more so like an editor,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: or like a graphic designer. I like the tedious work
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: of putting the project together, so something like creative like
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: that probably be making not as much money as I
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: am now.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Doing helping creative direction. Or do you feel like AI
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: is kind of fucking up the game a little? Because
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: man is it's crazy.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Is definitely a gift that a curse, but you know
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: it depends on how you you can use it or
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: abuse it. So the ones who abusing it is definitely
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: fucking up the culture.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I'll see, like I do these
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: new music streams or people senmit music and it's like
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: the amount of ar artwork that looks like it's just
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: it's just fresh out of chat GPT. It's like the
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: same font, the same style.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, like, but that's how to be doing
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the flyers now, to throw it straight in chat.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: GPT and it all looks the same exactly. It is diabole.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Do you think there is because even like suit.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Is it suno soon o?
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, soon as a trip soun.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: No, it was tough though.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I like using sono, So how do you use it?
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: So I play this is the thing. Whatever I'm using
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: sono is like something that I actually played, but it'll
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: just be an interpolation like if I play it on
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: if I played a piano or something, right, I say,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: turn this into electric guitar or something like that. Ah,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: So you know I use it to my tool as
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: a convenience.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel like it's the same thing with
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: like you know, even like like if you were to
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: you know, I use Claude to like put together deck
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: sometimes m hm. But I like it's still like my idea.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like putting together the graphic. I'm like,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: all right, put this graphic. It's just like to organize
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: it as close to like. But I do feel like
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: there's like this stigma that if you use AI at
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: all in any of the recording process, people like will
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: frown upon you. But I think that like it's the
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: same things when like Serrato first came out and DJs
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: were like shitting on people who had laptops and that
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: weren't carrying crates anymore. It's like, well, look I can,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I could do this, but it's a lot easier for
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: me to do. Like what you just said, if I
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: play something, I could just dump it in and it'll
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: just give it to me the way I want it.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: It's a tool, and it's just it's more efficient.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I come from the generation when auto tune was just
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: a regular thing too. Can't stop at sooner and not
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: talk about auto tune so much different. You know, computers,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: technology is gonna happen the inevitable.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the AI thing is like you said,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: it's a gift in a curse.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: It's like, I think you can use it in ways
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: that can help me. I think even like I I
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: don't know, maybe you would know this, But is there
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: AI mixing and mastering thing?
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think waves they got something to where you
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: could just upload a song and they give you three
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: different versions masters of which.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Some artists need that shit because some artists will be
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: dropping shit because and they I don't know who's mixing.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, yo, fam, this shit, this shit sounds horrible.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Nah, you can. You can't just ai yo mixed though,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: you still gotta no.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: But if you're just like some random bruh like, listen,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you. We have these guys submitting songs once
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: a week at these streams, and the shits, the amount
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: of horrible mixes and masters that I hear where I'm like,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: this is just unlistenable. Yeah, what are we doing here?
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Get together?
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Put it in ai Have you heard the new Phoenix
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Flexing song that's gone viral?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: No, I haven't heard it.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I need to get your reaction because this song is
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: it comes out tonight.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: To get my reaction.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Man, it is the most viral song in Los Angeles,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna be surprised that this is Phoenix Flexing.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: It's a fucking vibe. It's called rubbers.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, set shipships. Let me look right, my bucket's getting bigger.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Watch this movie.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Flood lockets sleep through.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Can't sleep through? They can't. They got no rhythm? Hard
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: this the whole song.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a preview.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so when you start rapping, he don't rap.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: It's an eighties fucking pop song.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Is that him singing?
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: It's Phoenix Flexing singing no Ai. No, he said no Ai.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I don't believe he. Look.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I saw him. I was backstage with him at the
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: show in uh Ontario. They sold out right at the
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Hondason or whatever, and he's like Yo. He's like, I'm
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: doing a whole random project and he starts playing. So
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: he starts playing stuff and he's like, yo, let me
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: play some ship. He puts it up. You know, he's
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: got like ship like this, like some pop like rock ship.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: I would say this, if that's really him, it's fire,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: it's viral. If it's Ai, it's just Ai.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Don't it's not Ai.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: But if he do a whole project like that and
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: he got to document the process, I.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Mean, listen, he says, it's not a I. It sounds
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: like him.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: If you think about you know, he probably fooled you.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: It comes out tonight on Empire Phoenix Flex gentry there.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna think they're about to put a
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: real rocket ship behind this record. It's like the number
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: one song on Instagram. Don't think I got it. It's
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: going crazy. Phoenix Flex caught one Flexing is uh yeah,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's it's gonna be It's called rubbers.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: That's what's up, Phoenix flexing Rubbers. I think it's called rubbers. Yeah, rubbers. Yeah,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: give me shooting videos and shit, it's been crazy. Are
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: you working on a tour all on the other side
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: of this?
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: So?
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely after the album come out. Definitely going
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: on tour, maybe like three months after yeah, having an announced yet,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: so maybe even sooner than that.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Do you uh, do you feel like this album is
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: like a the most you've ever had a chip on
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: your shoulder for.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: A project, chip on my shoulder, like I gotta remind
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: you motherfuckers what I do.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily feel like chip on my shoulder. It's
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: more so like, let me continue to do me, continue
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: to do what people already love me for. You know,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like I gotta like reintroduce myself. I'm
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: just reminding people. But it's not like what a chip
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: on my shoulder?
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Are you still managing yourself?
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Is that because some artists probably need a manager? But
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like you handle so much work yourself anyway.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: But do you feel like is that something you would
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: suggest other artists try to do? No.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I mean it's not something that I'm like, I manage
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: myself like you know, but the fact that I'm able
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: to I do take with pride. But I do think
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: it's important to have a team if you that's something
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: that I would highly recommend, especially if you finish think
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: you're just managing yourself and it's just you the artist,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: you still got to have a team, Like I couldn't
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: do nothing I'm doing alone.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it's like almost like if you're
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: an athlete. Like some athletes, it makes sense that they
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: decided not have an agent because they're pretty sharp and
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: figure it out. But then there's some guys where you're like, wait,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: he don't got an agent. Like Ace Bailey came into
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: the league, and it's like uncle's homie was like agent
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: and it was like, so, yeah, I feel it's kind
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: of similar.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: But it's just taking my time with it though. You know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I saw the Michael Jackson movie and it was crazy
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: because he didn't even have a manager at one point,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: right it was just him and his attorney. I would say,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: you having a relationship with your attorney is more than
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: more important than you.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Having a good attorney is very important yes, yes, someone
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you trust exactly. Well, listen, Labor of Love is coming
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  Speaker 1: out June twelfth. It's next Friday, June twelth, Is that right? Yep, yeah,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: next Friday tour following hopefully in the next few months. Yeah,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: hopefully we get a new six tape. Is this going
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: to be the last of the new music you drop
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six? Do you think you got some
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: more in you? I mean, obviously we're halfway through the year,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: so you take care.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: You never know, We never know. I'm staying creative for sure,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: but you know, I like to take my time at
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: this point. I ain't got nothing to prove. I want
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: to put out the best bodies of work, best music.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: So we'll see.
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