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S7, Ep 75: From Kitchen Table to Riverbank: The Whuff Rod Co. Journey with Dave Huff - The Articulate Fly · The Long Haul with The Articulate Fly

0:03
Hey
0:04
folks,
0:04
it's
0:04
Marvin
0:05
Cash,
0:05
the
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host
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of
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The
0:06
Articulate
0:06
Fly.
0:07
On
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this
0:08
episode,
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I'm
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joined
0:09
by
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Dave
0:09
Huff,
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the
0:10
driving
0:10
force
0:10
behind
0:11
Whuff
0:11
Rod
0:11
Co
0:12
and
0:12
the
0:12
Kentucky
0:13
River
0:13
Musky
0:14
Classic.
0:14
Dave
0:15
shares
0:15
his
0:15
passion
0:15
for
0:16
chasing
0:16
muskie
0:16
on
0:17
the
0:17
fly
0:17
and
0:17
what
0:18
drove
0:18
him
0:18
to
0:18
make
0:18
Whuff
0:18
Rod
0:19
Co
0:19
a
0:19
reality.
0:20
I
0:20
think
0:20
you're
0:20
really
0:21
going
0:21
to
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enjoy
0:21
this
0:21
one,
0:22
but
0:22
before
0:22
we
0:23
get
0:23
to
0:23
the
0:23
interview,
0:24
just
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a
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couple
0:24
of
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housekeeping
0:25
items.
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It
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helps
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out.
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And
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a
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shout
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to
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our
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newest
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changer
0:36
patron,
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Michael
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Bryan.
0:38
Thanks
0:38
for
0:38
your
0:38
support.
0:39
And
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1:29
Well,
1:29
Dave,
1:30
welcome
1:30
to
1:30
the
1:30
Articulate
1:31
Fly.
1:32
Yeah,
1:32
thanks
1:33
for
1:33
having
1:33
me.
1:33
Yeah,
1:34
I'm
1:34
looking
1:34
forward
1:34
to
1:34
our
1:35
conversation.
1:35
And
1:35
we
1:35
have
1:36
a
1:36
tradition
1:36
on
1:36
the
1:36
Articulate
1:37
Fly.
1:37
We
1:37
like
1:37
to
1:38
ask
1:38
all
1:38
of
1:38
our
1:38
guests
1:39
to
1:39
share
1:39
their
1:39
earliest
1:40
fishing
1:40
memory.
1:41
Okay.
1:42
Yeah,
1:43
Farm
1:44
pond
1:44
fishing
1:44
for
1:44
me,
1:45
man.
1:45
My,
1:46
you
1:46
know,
1:47
I
1:47
grew
1:47
up
1:47
in
1:47
Kentucky,
1:48
rural
1:49
Boone
1:49
county
1:50
area
1:51
and
1:52
fishing
1:53
with
1:53
my
1:53
grandpa.
1:54
Probably,
1:54
probably
1:55
the,
1:55
the
1:56
single
1:57
moment
1:58
that
1:58
sticks
1:58
out
1:58
the
1:58
most
2:00
is,
2:01
you
2:01
know,
2:02
I
2:02
was
2:02
maybe
2:04
six
2:04
or
2:04
seven
2:05
and
2:06
I
2:06
remember
2:07
casting
2:08
out
2:08
a
2:09
Rapala
2:09
or
2:09
something
2:10
and
2:11
hooking
2:12
two
2:12
fish
2:13
on
2:13
the
2:13
same
2:14
lure
2:14
and
2:14
bringing
2:15
them
2:15
in.
2:16
And
2:16
I
2:17
remember
2:17
that
2:17
pretty
2:18
vividly
2:18
is
2:19
after
2:19
that
2:19
I
2:19
was
2:20
like,
2:21
I
2:21
was
2:21
all
2:21
about
2:22
fishing.
2:22
You
2:22
know,
2:22
like
2:23
I
2:23
want
2:23
to,
2:23
you
2:24
know,
2:24
lunch
2:24
break
2:25
at
2:25
the
2:25
farm.
2:25
I
2:25
was
2:26
fishing
2:27
after
2:27
work.
2:28
I
2:28
was
2:28
fishing,
2:29
just
2:29
trying
2:30
to,
2:31
you
2:31
know,
2:31
chase
2:32
stuff.
2:32
And
2:33
I
2:33
was
2:33
notoriously
2:35
like
2:35
late
2:35
for,
2:36
for
2:36
dinner
2:36
with
2:37
my,
2:37
with
2:37
my
2:37
buddies.
2:38
You
2:38
know,
2:38
my
2:38
mom
2:39
would
2:40
be
2:40
like,
2:40
you
2:41
know,
2:41
we'd
2:41
be,
2:41
we'd
2:42
walk
2:42
down
2:42
a
2:42
creek
2:43
and
2:43
before
2:44
you
2:44
realize
2:44
that
2:45
you're,
2:45
you're
2:46
two
2:46
miles
2:46
down
2:46
the
2:47
creek
2:47
and
2:47
realize
2:47
you
2:48
have
2:48
to
2:48
be
2:48
back
2:48
for
2:48
dinner
2:49
and,
2:49
you
2:49
know,
2:49
a
2:50
half
2:50
hour
2:50
and
2:50
you're
2:50
not
2:51
going
2:51
to
2:51
make
2:51
it,
2:51
you
2:51
know,
2:52
kind
2:52
of
2:52
stuff.
2:52
So,
2:54
yeah,
2:55
whatever
2:55
kind
2:55
of
2:55
outdoor
2:56
adventures
2:56
I
2:56
could
2:56
get
2:57
into,
2:57
I
2:57
always
2:58
tried
2:58
to
2:59
tie
2:59
into,
3:00
you
3:01
know,
3:01
try
3:01
to
3:01
tie
3:01
in
3:01
fish
3:02
into
3:02
that
3:02
stuff.
3:03
Yeah.
3:03
Very,
3:03
very
3:04
neat.
3:04
So
3:04
when
3:04
did
3:04
you
3:04
come
3:04
to
3:05
the
3:05
dark
3:05
side
3:05
of
3:05
fly
3:05
fishing?
3:08
I
3:08
tried
3:09
it.
3:11
At
3:11
one
3:11
point.
3:12
I
3:13
had
3:13
a
3:13
relative
3:13
from,
3:14
like,
3:14
Texas
3:14
that
3:15
had
3:16
a
3:16
fly
3:17
rod
3:17
or
3:17
something
3:17
that
3:18
he
3:18
brought
3:18
up
3:18
on,
3:18
like,
3:19
a
3:19
family
3:19
trip.
3:20
And
3:20
I
3:20
noted.
3:20
I
3:20
saw
3:21
it.
3:21
I.
3:21
And
3:21
I.
3:22
I
3:22
mean,
3:22
I
3:22
tried
3:23
it
3:23
a
3:23
couple
3:23
times,
3:24
and
3:26
I
3:26
feel
3:27
like
3:27
I
3:27
had.
3:28
I
3:28
don't
3:28
remember
3:29
the
3:29
year
3:30
necessarily,
3:30
but
3:31
I
3:31
definitely
3:31
know,
3:32
like,
3:33
in
3:33
my
3:34
younger
3:34
years,
3:35
you
3:35
know,
3:35
middle
3:36
school
3:36
age
3:37
is.
3:38
You
3:38
know,
3:38
I've
3:38
tried
3:39
it
3:39
a
3:39
few
3:39
more
3:39
times
3:40
and
3:41
didn't
3:41
really
3:41
pick
3:41
it
3:42
back
3:42
up
3:42
until
3:43
after
3:43
college.
3:44
And
3:46
it
3:46
was
3:46
one
3:46
of
3:47
those
3:47
things
3:47
where
3:47
it
3:47
just
3:47
kind
3:47
of
3:48
set
3:48
the.
3:48
The
3:48
rod
3:49
just
3:49
kind
3:49
of
3:49
sat
3:49
in
3:49
the
3:50
corner,
3:50
you
3:50
know,
3:51
it
3:51
was
3:52
cool.
3:52
And
3:52
then
3:52
other
3:52
stuff
3:53
got
3:53
cool.
3:53
I
3:53
grew
3:53
up
3:54
racing
3:54
dirt
3:54
bikes
3:55
and
3:55
got
3:55
into
3:56
cars
3:56
and
3:57
then
3:57
college,
3:57
and,
3:58
you
3:58
know,
3:59
I.
4:00
I
4:00
picked
4:00
it
4:01
back
4:01
up
4:01
later
4:02
in
4:02
life
4:03
on
4:04
a
4:04
trip
4:04
down
4:04
to
4:07
Brevard
4:08
and
4:09
fishing
4:10
the
4:10
Davidson
4:10
River.
4:12
That
4:13
kind
4:13
of
4:13
like,
4:13
re.
4:14
Ignited
4:15
fly
4:15
fishing
4:16
for
4:16
me.
4:18
And
4:19
then
4:19
from
4:19
there,
4:19
it
4:19
was
4:19
kind
4:20
of.
4:20
It
4:20
was
4:20
kind
4:20
of
4:21
on,
4:21
you
4:21
know,
4:23
still.
4:24
I
4:24
still
4:24
do
4:24
some
4:24
spin
4:25
fishing
4:25
from
4:25
time
4:25
to
4:26
time,
4:26
but
4:27
I'm
4:28
about
4:28
a
4:28
90
4:28
percenter
4:29
when
4:29
it
4:29
comes
4:29
to
4:29
fly
4:30
fishing.
4:31
Yeah,
4:31
it's
4:31
pretty
4:31
neat.
4:32
The
4:32
Davidson
4:32
is
4:32
probably
4:33
my
4:33
favorite
4:34
river
4:34
to
4:34
fish
4:35
in
4:35
North
4:35
Carolina.
4:36
Yeah.
4:37
Yeah.
4:37
I
4:38
was.
4:38
It
4:38
was
4:38
on
4:39
a
4:39
kind
4:39
of
4:39
a
4:39
whim.
4:40
A
4:40
buddy
4:40
of
4:40
mine
4:41
was
4:41
down
4:41
there.
4:42
We
4:42
were
4:43
on
4:43
a
4:43
trip,
4:43
and,
4:44
you
4:44
know,
4:45
we
4:45
were
4:45
kind
4:45
of.
4:46
We
4:46
have
4:46
been
4:46
talking
4:47
about
4:47
fly
4:47
fishing,
4:48
and
4:48
we
4:48
had
4:48
new
4:49
fly
4:49
fishing
4:49
setups
4:50
that
4:50
we
4:50
were.
4:50
We
4:51
were
4:51
trying
4:51
to
4:51
plan
4:51
this
4:52
big
4:53
boundary
4:53
water
4:54
trip,
4:54
and
4:54
we
4:54
were
4:55
gonna
4:56
try
4:56
to
4:56
go
4:56
up
4:56
there
4:56
and,
4:57
you
4:57
know,
4:58
live
4:58
out
4:59
of
4:59
canoes
4:59
for
5:00
three,
5:00
three
5:00
to
5:00
four
5:00
weeks
5:01
and
5:02
take
5:02
some
5:03
fly
5:03
rods
5:03
with
5:03
us.
5:04
And
5:04
we
5:05
went
5:05
down
5:05
there
5:05
one
5:06
year
5:06
just
5:07
on
5:07
vacation,
5:08
and
5:09
we're
5:10
kind
5:10
of
5:10
like,
5:10
man,
5:10
we
5:10
should
5:11
just
5:11
book
5:11
a
5:11
guide
5:11
trip
5:12
so
5:13
we
5:13
could
5:13
kind
5:13
of
5:13
take
5:14
a
5:14
crash
5:14
course
5:15
and,
5:15
like,
5:15
learning
5:16
all
5:16
this,
5:16
because
5:16
it's
5:17
like.
5:17
I
5:17
was
5:17
like.
5:18
It's
5:18
way
5:18
different
5:18
from
5:18
when
5:19
I
5:19
did
5:19
it.
5:19
Did
5:19
I
5:20
come
5:20
up
5:21
and
5:22
we
5:22
met.
5:22
We
5:22
met
5:23
up
5:23
with
5:23
a
5:23
guide.
5:24
Guide
5:25
down
5:25
there
5:25
by
5:25
the
5:26
name
5:26
of
5:26
Jeb.
5:28
And
5:28
I
5:29
remember
5:29
we
5:29
showed
5:30
up.
5:30
We
5:31
showed
5:31
up
5:31
and
5:32
look
5:32
like
5:32
noobs,
5:33
probably.
5:34
And,
5:35
you
5:35
know,
5:36
we
5:36
get
5:36
out
5:36
in
5:36
the
5:36
water,
5:37
and
5:37
the
5:37
first
5:38
thing
5:38
he
5:38
Said
5:38
to
5:38
me,
5:39
to
5:39
us
5:39
is
5:39
said,
5:40
this
5:40
ain't
5:40
a
5:40
river
5:41
runs
5:41
through
5:41
it,
5:41
and
5:42
woolly
5:42
buggers
5:42
ain't,
5:43
you
5:43
know,
5:44
he's
5:44
like,
5:44
we're
5:44
not.
5:44
You're
5:45
not
5:45
going
5:45
to
5:45
be
5:45
waving
5:46
these
5:46
things
5:46
around
5:46
in
5:47
the
5:47
air
5:47
all
5:47
day
5:47
trying
5:47
to
5:48
make
5:48
false
5:48
casts.
5:49
He's
5:49
like,
5:49
I'm
5:49
going
5:49
to
5:49
show
5:49
you
5:49
how
5:50
to
5:50
roll
5:50
cast.
5:51
I'm
5:51
going
5:51
to
5:51
show
5:51
you
5:51
how
5:52
to
5:52
catch
5:52
some
5:52
fish.
5:52
You.
5:53
And
5:54
I
5:54
kind
5:54
of.
5:54
I
5:54
kind
5:54
of
5:55
looked
5:55
at
5:55
my
5:55
buddy.
5:55
I'm
5:55
like,
5:56
this
5:56
guy's
5:56
my
5:56
kind
5:56
of
5:57
people,
5:57
you
5:57
know?
5:57
So,
5:58
yeah,
5:59
from
5:59
then
5:59
it
6:00
was.
6:00
It
6:00
was
6:00
kind
6:00
of
6:01
on.
6:01
We.
6:02
My
6:02
buddy
6:02
hooked
6:03
into.
6:03
Immediately
6:04
hooked
6:04
into
6:04
a
6:04
huge
6:05
brown
6:05
trout
6:07
that
6:08
the
6:08
guide
6:09
kind
6:09
of
6:09
opened
6:10
his
6:10
eyes
6:10
when
6:10
he
6:10
saw
6:10
it
6:11
jump
6:11
out
6:11
of
6:11
the
6:11
water
6:11
and
6:12
realized
6:12
it
6:12
was
6:12
a
6:12
big
6:13
one,
6:13
you
6:13
know,
6:13
and
6:14
we
6:14
caught
6:14
a
6:14
bunch
6:15
more
6:15
fish
6:15
that
6:15
day.
6:16
And,
6:17
yeah,
6:17
rest
6:18
is
6:18
history.
6:19
Now
6:19
it's
6:19
just
6:19
a
6:19
challenge
6:20
of
6:20
getting
6:21
out
6:21
of
6:21
as
6:21
many
6:21
days
6:22
as
6:22
I
6:22
can
6:22
and
6:23
trying
6:24
to
6:24
learn
6:25
as
6:25
many
6:25
different,
6:25
you
6:26
know,
6:26
styles
6:27
of
6:27
fishing
6:27
that
6:27
you
6:27
can.
6:28
So.
6:29
Yeah,
6:29
I
6:29
bet
6:29
that
6:29
was
6:30
Jeb
6:30
hall
6:30
from
6:30
Davidson
6:31
River
6:31
Outfitters,
6:31
wasn't
6:32
it?
6:32
Oh,
6:32
yeah.
6:33
He's
6:33
a
6:33
bad
6:33
man.
6:34
Yeah,
6:34
I've.
6:35
So
6:35
I've
6:36
known
6:36
those
6:36
guys
6:36
forever,
6:37
and
6:37
I
6:37
have
6:37
a
6:37
tradition
6:38
with
6:39
my
6:39
boys.
6:39
I
6:39
take
6:40
them
6:40
fishing
6:41
during
6:41
the
6:41
Christmas
6:41
holidays,
6:42
and
6:42
Jeb
6:43
was
6:43
our
6:43
guide
6:44
on
6:44
one
6:45
of
6:45
those
6:45
trips
6:45
because
6:45
I
6:46
always
6:46
know
6:46
that
6:47
it's
6:47
better
6:47
for
6:48
him
6:48
to
6:48
work
6:48
with
6:48
the
6:48
kids
6:49
so
6:49
I
6:49
don't
6:49
lose
6:49
my
6:49
patience
6:50
when
6:50
they
6:50
were
6:50
younger
6:50
and
6:51
yell
6:51
at
6:51
them
6:51
and
6:51
ruin
6:51
the
6:52
day.
6:52
So.
6:53
Yep,
6:53
yep.
6:54
Yeah,
6:55
he's
6:55
got
6:56
a
6:56
lot
6:56
of
6:56
patience,
6:57
and
6:57
he's
6:57
just
6:58
a
6:58
really
6:58
fishy
6:58
dude.
6:59
So.
7:00
Yeah,
7:00
absolutely.
7:00
Jeb
7:01
is.
7:01
Jeb
7:01
is
7:01
a
7:01
great
7:02
guy.
7:02
All
7:02
the
7:02
guys
7:02
at
7:02
DRO
7:03
Are
7:03
awesome
7:03
and,
7:04
you
7:04
know,
7:05
so
7:05
you
7:05
kind
7:05
of
7:05
come
7:05
back
7:05
to
7:06
it
7:06
a
7:06
little
7:06
bit
7:06
later
7:06
on
7:07
in
7:07
your
7:07
life,
7:07
you
7:08
know?
7:08
Who
7:08
are
7:08
some
7:08
of
7:08
the
7:08
folks
7:09
that
7:09
have
7:09
mentored
7:09
you
7:09
as
7:09
you've
7:10
gotten
7:10
kind
7:10
of
7:10
deeper
7:10
into
7:11
the
7:11
sport.
7:13
Man,
7:14
Mostly.
7:14
Mostly
7:15
guys
7:15
from
7:15
the
7:15
fly
7:16
fishing
7:16
club
7:17
up
7:17
here.
7:17
The
7:17
Northern
7:17
Kentucky
7:18
fly
7:18
fishers.
7:23
They're
7:23
just.
7:25
There's
7:25
so
7:26
much
7:26
knowledge
7:26
there.
7:28
It's
7:28
an.
7:28
It's
7:28
an
7:28
aging
7:29
club,
7:30
you
7:30
know,
7:31
Mike
7:31
Arnold
7:34
is
7:34
one
7:34
of
7:34
the
7:35
oldest
7:35
members
7:36
of
7:36
the
7:36
club,
7:36
and
7:38
he's
7:38
actually
7:38
the
7:39
one
7:39
that
7:39
taught
7:39
me
7:40
how
7:40
to.
7:40
How
7:40
to
7:41
build
7:42
fly
7:42
rods.
7:43
And
7:44
he's
7:44
still
7:44
there.
7:44
He's
7:45
still
7:45
active
7:45
with
7:45
the
7:45
club.
7:46
He
7:46
still
7:46
teaches
7:47
rod
7:47
building.
7:49
And
7:49
I
7:49
just
7:49
kind
7:49
of.
7:50
I'm
7:51
one
7:51
of
7:51
those
7:51
dudes.
7:51
Like,
7:52
my
7:52
wife
7:52
knows
7:53
when
7:53
we
7:53
go
7:53
on
7:54
vacation,
7:55
she's
7:55
probably
7:56
gonna.
7:56
I'm
7:56
gonna
7:57
disappear
7:57
for
7:57
a
7:58
Couple
7:58
hours
7:58
and
7:59
she
7:59
can
7:59
always
7:59
probably
8:00
find
8:00
me
8:00
at
8:01
the,
8:01
the
8:02
old
8:02
bait
8:02
shop
8:03
talking
8:03
to
8:03
the
8:03
old
8:04
crusty,
8:05
salty
8:05
dudes.
8:06
Like
8:06
she
8:07
just
8:07
knows
8:07
that
8:07
she's
8:07
gonna
8:08
lose
8:08
me
8:08
for
8:08
a
8:08
couple
8:08
hours
8:09
to
8:09
those
8:09
dudes.
8:10
You
8:10
know,
8:10
I
8:10
just
8:10
love
8:11
hearing
8:11
stories
8:12
and
8:12
love
8:13
learning
8:13
and
8:15
those,
8:15
those
8:15
guys
8:16
are
8:16
just
8:16
a
8:16
wealth
8:17
of
8:17
knowledge.
8:17
And
8:19
yeah,
8:20
they're
8:20
probably
8:21
some
8:21
of
8:21
my,
8:21
as
8:22
far
8:22
as
8:22
fly
8:22
fishing
8:23
goes,
8:23
like
8:24
some
8:24
of
8:24
my
8:24
biggest
8:25
mentors
8:25
came
8:25
from
8:25
the
8:26
NKFF
8:26
for
8:27
sure.
8:27
Yeah.
8:28
It's
8:28
interesting.
8:28
I
8:29
know
8:29
Mike
8:29
Arnold
8:30
from
8:30
my
8:30
time
8:30
is
8:31
the
8:31
president
8:32
of
8:33
the
8:33
Southeastern
8:34
council
8:34
of
8:34
fff.
8:35
And
8:35
yeah,
8:36
yeah,
8:36
he's
8:36
a
8:37
great
8:37
guy
8:37
and
8:37
he
8:37
was
8:38
always,
8:39
he
8:39
know,
8:39
always
8:40
doing
8:40
tons
8:40
of
8:40
stuff
8:41
with
8:41
the
8:41
council.
8:41
I
8:42
haven't
8:42
seen
8:42
him
8:42
in
8:42
a
8:42
long
8:42
time
8:43
because
8:43
the,
8:44
you
8:44
know,
8:44
the,
8:45
the
8:45
council
8:45
wasn't
8:46
as
8:46
active
8:46
as
8:46
it
8:46
has
8:46
been
8:47
and
8:47
it's
8:47
kind
8:47
of
8:47
coming
8:47
back.
8:48
But
8:48
yeah,
8:48
he's
8:48
a
8:48
great,
8:49
great
8:49
person
8:49
to
8:50
learn
8:50
from
8:50
for
8:50
sure.
8:51
Yeah.
8:51
Yeah,
8:52
absolutely.
8:52
Yeah.
8:53
And
8:53
so
8:53
kind
8:53
of
8:54
funny,
8:54
right?
8:54
So,
8:54
you
8:55
know,
8:55
Wolf
8:55
Rod
8:55
Company
8:55
is
8:56
almost
8:56
10
8:56
years
8:56
old.
8:57
You
8:57
know,
8:58
you,
8:58
you
8:58
kind
8:58
of
8:58
get
8:58
into
8:59
fly
8:59
fishing.
8:59
Like,
9:00
you
9:00
know,
9:00
what
9:00
makes
9:00
you
9:00
crazy
9:01
enough
9:01
to
9:01
want
9:01
to
9:01
start
9:01
a
9:02
rod
9:02
company?
9:04
I
9:04
mean,
9:04
in
9:05
the
9:05
early
9:05
days
9:06
I
9:06
was
9:06
doing
9:06
custom
9:07
rods.
9:07
So
9:07
I
9:08
started
9:08
doing
9:08
custom
9:08
rods
9:09
in
9:09
2016
9:13
and
9:14
I
9:14
just
9:15
basically,
9:16
I
9:16
really
9:16
enjoyed
9:17
the
9:17
process.
9:20
You
9:20
know,
9:21
my
9:21
background
9:22
in
9:22
design,
9:23
you
9:24
know,
9:24
creating
9:25
things
9:25
has
9:25
always
9:25
been
9:26
something
9:27
that
9:27
I,
9:28
I
9:28
love
9:28
to
9:28
do.
9:29
I
9:29
mean,
9:29
even
9:29
in
9:29
my
9:29
full
9:30
time
9:30
job,
9:30
I
9:31
build
9:31
mountain
9:31
bike
9:31
trails
9:32
and
9:32
hiking
9:32
trails
9:33
for
9:33
a
9:33
living.
9:33
So
9:34
we're
9:34
just
9:34
creating
9:36
things
9:36
in
9:37
nature
9:37
and
9:37
forests
9:38
and
9:38
trying
9:39
to
9:39
make
9:39
things
9:40
out
9:40
of
9:40
dirt
9:41
that
9:41
look
9:41
like
9:41
they've
9:42
been
9:42
there
9:42
for
9:42
10
9:43
years,
9:43
you
9:43
know,
9:44
so,
9:47
so
9:47
yeah,
9:47
I
9:47
mean,
9:48
started
9:49
doing
9:49
custom
9:49
rods.
9:50
It
9:50
got
9:50
to
9:51
a
9:51
point
9:51
where
9:52
with
9:52
the
9:52
full
9:52
time
9:53
job,
9:53
I
9:54
just
9:54
couldn't
9:54
really.
9:55
I
9:55
hated
9:55
the
9:55
fact
9:55
that
9:56
I
9:56
had
9:56
to
9:56
tell
9:56
people,
9:56
like,
9:57
hey,
9:57
it
9:57
might
9:57
be,
9:57
you
9:58
know,
9:58
four,
9:58
five
9:59
months
10:00
before
10:00
I
10:00
can
10:00
get
10:01
your
10:01
rod
10:01
done.
10:02
You
10:02
know,
10:02
that
10:03
was
10:03
like
10:04
that
10:05
for
10:05
me.
10:05
That
10:05
was
10:06
like
10:06
the
10:06
turning
10:06
point
10:07
from
10:07
where
10:07
it
10:07
went
10:07
from
10:08
like
10:08
Dave
10:08
building
10:09
rods
10:09
on
10:09
his
10:10
kitchen
10:10
table
10:10
or
10:10
in
10:11
the
10:11
basement
10:11
in
10:11
his
10:12
garage,
10:12
whatever,
10:13
to
10:13
like
10:14
trying
10:14
to
10:14
figure
10:14
out
10:14
like,
10:15
maybe
10:15
this
10:15
needs
10:15
to
10:16
be
10:16
something
10:16
else.
10:17
And
10:17
then
10:18
the
10:18
icing
10:19
on
10:19
the
10:19
cake
10:19
for
10:20
me
10:21
for
10:21
the
10:22
actual
10:22
birth
10:23
of
10:24
Wolf
10:24
Rodco
10:25
was
10:27
I
10:28
was
10:28
like,
10:29
I
10:30
started
10:30
fly
10:30
fishing
10:31
for
10:31
Muskie,
10:32
you
10:33
know,
10:33
10
10:33
years
10:33
ago
10:34
or
10:34
something
10:36
and
10:36
I
10:37
just
10:37
didn't
10:37
enjoy
10:37
the
10:38
rods.
10:38
I,
10:39
they
10:39
weren't,
10:40
you
10:40
know,
10:40
I,
10:40
I
10:41
tried,
10:42
I
10:42
tried
10:42
a
10:42
few
10:43
and
10:43
they
10:43
just
10:44
like
10:44
some.
10:45
I
10:45
didn't
10:45
know
10:45
what
10:46
I
10:46
didn't
10:46
like,
10:46
but
10:46
I
10:47
Knew
10:47
I
10:47
didn't
10:47
like
10:47
them,
10:48
you
10:48
know,
10:50
and
10:51
that's
10:52
when
10:52
I
10:52
kind
10:53
of
10:53
went
10:53
to
10:53
the
10:53
drawing
10:54
board.
10:54
And
10:54
now,
10:55
you
10:55
know,
10:55
I
10:55
was
10:58
super
10:58
active
10:58
in
10:58
my
10:59
club,
11:00
the,
11:01
you
11:01
know,
11:01
the.
11:01
The
11:02
local
11:02
club.
11:03
And
11:04
we
11:04
were
11:04
getting
11:04
a
11:04
ton
11:05
of,
11:05
like,
11:06
new
11:06
members
11:07
every
11:07
month.
11:07
Like,
11:08
we
11:08
were
11:08
getting
11:08
like
11:09
10
11:09
or
11:09
12
11:10
new
11:10
members
11:10
showing
11:11
up
11:11
to
11:11
the
11:11
fly
11:12
club,
11:12
and
11:12
then
11:13
they
11:13
weren't
11:13
coming
11:14
back.
11:15
So,
11:15
like,
11:16
between.
11:17
There's
11:17
like,
11:17
a
11:17
little
11:17
culmination
11:18
of,
11:19
you
11:19
know,
11:19
not.
11:20
Not
11:20
loving
11:21
the
11:21
fly
11:21
rods
11:21
that
11:22
I
11:22
had
11:22
access
11:22
to,
11:24
seeing
11:24
people
11:24
that
11:24
were
11:25
really
11:25
passionate
11:26
about
11:26
fly
11:27
fishing
11:28
not
11:28
come
11:29
back
11:29
to
11:29
the
11:29
meetings.
11:30
And
11:30
I
11:30
just
11:31
kind
11:31
of.
11:32
My
11:32
brain
11:33
is
11:33
so
11:33
focused
11:34
on,
11:34
like,
11:36
the
11:36
better
11:36
mousetrap,
11:37
so
11:37
to
11:37
speak.
11:38
You
11:39
know,
11:39
I.
11:39
I
11:39
kind
11:39
of
11:40
put
11:40
my
11:40
head
11:40
down
11:40
and
11:41
realized,
11:42
like,
11:42
most
11:42
of
11:42
the
11:43
people
11:43
were
11:43
going
11:43
to
11:44
our
11:44
local
11:44
shop,
11:46
they
11:46
were
11:47
trying
11:47
on
11:47
waiters,
11:48
they
11:48
were
11:49
doing
11:49
all
11:49
the
11:49
stuff
11:49
that.
11:50
That
11:50
they
11:50
were
11:51
taught
11:51
to
11:51
do,
11:51
you
11:52
know,
11:52
to
11:52
get
11:52
set
11:53
up.
11:53
And
11:53
then
11:53
they'd
11:53
go
11:54
to
11:54
the
11:54
rods
11:54
and
11:56
they'd
11:56
put
11:56
a
11:56
Thomas
11:57
and
11:57
Thomas
11:57
in
11:57
front
11:58
of
11:58
them,
11:58
and
11:58
they'd
11:58
be
11:59
like,
11:59
holy
11:59
crap,
11:59
you
12:00
know,
12:00
like.
12:01
Like,
12:01
I'm
12:02
going
12:02
to
12:02
be
12:02
spending,
12:02
like,
12:02
$2,000
12:03
to
12:04
go
12:04
fly
12:05
fishing.
12:05
And
12:05
then,
12:06
you
12:06
know,
12:07
it
12:07
was
12:07
kind
12:07
of
12:07
like
12:08
they
12:08
just.
12:09
I'm
12:09
fine
12:10
with
12:10
just
12:10
spin
12:10
fishing.
12:11
You
12:11
know,
12:11
they
12:11
didn't
12:11
know
12:12
another
12:12
way.
12:13
Um,
12:14
so
12:15
it
12:15
was
12:16
a
12:16
little
12:16
bit
12:16
of
12:17
rod
12:17
performance.
12:18
I
12:18
wanted
12:18
something
12:18
that
12:19
wasn't,
12:19
you
12:19
know,
12:20
necessarily
12:21
super
12:21
popular
12:21
at
12:22
that
12:22
time.
12:22
Um,
12:23
and
12:24
then
12:24
price.
12:25
I
12:25
wanted
12:25
to
12:26
be
12:26
able
12:26
to
12:26
provide
12:27
a
12:28
rod
12:28
that
12:28
had
12:29
really
12:30
good
12:30
quality
12:30
at
12:31
an
12:31
affordable
12:31
cost
12:32
so
12:32
that
12:32
people
12:32
could
12:33
actually
12:33
get
12:33
out
12:33
and
12:34
enjoy
12:35
fishing
12:35
and
12:35
not
12:36
be
12:36
stressed
12:36
about
12:37
saving
12:37
money
12:37
to
12:38
buy
12:38
a
12:38
fly
12:38
rod.
12:39
Yeah,
12:40
got
12:40
it.
12:40
And
12:40
so,
12:40
you
12:40
know,
12:41
tell
12:41
me
12:41
a
12:41
little
12:41
bit.
12:41
You
12:41
know,
12:42
you
12:42
were
12:42
saying
12:42
there
12:42
was
12:42
something
12:43
specifically
12:43
you
12:43
didn't
12:44
like
12:44
in
12:44
the
12:44
musky
12:44
sticks
12:45
you
12:45
were
12:45
fishing.
12:46
So
12:46
tell
12:46
me,
12:46
like,
12:47
how
12:47
that
12:47
translated
12:48
into
12:48
the
12:48
style
12:49
and
12:49
feel
12:49
of
12:49
the
12:50
wolf
12:50
rodco
12:51
rides.
12:53
I
12:53
just.
12:53
They.
12:55
They
12:55
were
12:55
really
12:56
stiff
12:57
and
12:58
didn't
12:59
handle
12:59
musky
13:00
flies
13:00
well,
13:01
you
13:01
know,
13:01
and
13:02
at
13:02
that
13:02
time,
13:03
I
13:04
didn't
13:04
know
13:04
why,
13:05
because
13:05
I
13:05
didn't
13:05
know
13:05
enough
13:06
about
13:06
fly
13:06
rod
13:07
design.
13:07
I
13:07
just
13:07
knew
13:08
I
13:08
didn't
13:08
like
13:08
it.
13:08
And
13:09
when
13:09
I
13:09
don't
13:09
like
13:09
something,
13:10
I
13:10
try
13:10
to
13:10
figure
13:10
out
13:11
how
13:11
to
13:11
make
13:11
it
13:12
work.
13:13
You
13:13
know,
13:13
I
13:14
can
13:14
work
13:14
with
13:14
anything,
13:15
but
13:15
I
13:15
know,
13:15
I
13:16
know
13:16
what
13:16
I
13:16
want
13:17
and
13:18
I
13:18
know
13:18
what
13:18
I
13:18
don't
13:18
like,
13:19
you
13:19
know,
13:19
And
13:20
I
13:21
think
13:21
part
13:21
of
13:21
it
13:21
is
13:22
the
13:23
long
13:23
time
13:24
frame
13:25
from
13:25
when
13:25
I
13:25
learned
13:26
how
13:26
to
13:26
fly
13:26
fish
13:26
to
13:27
where
13:27
I
13:27
picked
13:27
it
13:27
back
13:27
up
13:28
to
13:28
where,
13:30
you
13:30
know,
13:31
I
13:31
just
13:31
remember
13:32
as
13:32
a
13:33
Kid
13:33
and
13:34
you
13:34
know,
13:35
being
13:35
younger,
13:36
how
13:36
much
13:37
feeling
13:37
and
13:38
like
13:39
soul
13:40
a
13:40
flyer
13:40
I'd
13:41
had,
13:41
like,
13:41
that
13:42
was
13:42
the
13:42
thing
13:42
I
13:42
loved
13:42
about
13:43
it
13:44
is
13:44
you
13:44
could
13:44
feel
13:45
the
13:45
fish,
13:45
you
13:46
could
13:46
feel
13:46
the
13:46
cast
13:47
when
13:47
you
13:48
caught
13:48
a
13:48
fish,
13:48
you
13:48
could
13:48
feel
13:49
the
13:49
fight.
13:51
And
13:52
these
13:52
new,
13:52
these,
13:53
these
13:53
fly
13:53
rods
13:54
I
13:54
was
13:54
using
13:54
for
13:54
muskie,
13:55
you
13:55
know,
13:55
they're
13:56
looking
13:57
at
13:57
it
13:57
now.
13:57
They
13:57
were
13:58
just
13:58
essentially
13:58
rebranded
13:59
saltwater
14:00
rods
14:00
that
14:01
weren't
14:01
made
14:01
to
14:02
throw
14:02
wet
14:02
socks,
14:03
you
14:03
know,
14:04
at,
14:04
at
14:04
tree
14:05
stumps.
14:05
They
14:06
just,
14:06
they
14:06
were
14:07
made
14:07
for
14:07
throwing
14:07
little
14:08
flies
14:08
through
14:08
wind.
14:09
They
14:09
had
14:09
a
14:09
lot
14:09
of
14:10
tip
14:10
feel
14:11
and
14:11
that
14:11
was
14:11
about
14:11
it.
14:12
And
14:12
that's
14:12
just
14:13
not
14:13
what
14:14
I,
14:14
you
14:14
know,
14:15
I,
14:15
I
14:15
went
14:16
back
14:16
to
14:16
the
14:16
drawing
14:16
board
14:17
and
14:17
wanted
14:17
to
14:17
really,
14:19
I
14:19
wanted
14:19
to
14:20
provide
14:21
a,
14:21
a
14:21
really
14:22
mid
14:22
flex
14:22
heavy
14:23
rod
14:24
that
14:24
you
14:24
could
14:24
cast
14:25
day
14:25
in
14:25
and
14:26
day
14:26
out
14:26
for
14:26
an
14:26
entire
14:27
four
14:27
day
14:27
trip
14:28
and
14:28
not
14:28
wear
14:29
yourself
14:29
out.
14:30
And
14:31
it
14:31
would
14:31
be
14:31
built
14:32
like
14:32
a
14:32
tank
14:33
and
14:35
affordable.
14:35
And
14:36
that's
14:36
the
14:36
Riverwolf,
14:37
one
14:38
of
14:38
our
14:38
rods,
14:38
the
14:39
11
14:39
weight,
14:40
that
14:40
was
14:40
the
14:40
first
14:41
rod
14:41
that
14:41
I
14:41
actually
14:42
developed
14:43
was
14:44
an
14:44
11
14:44
weight,
14:45
which
14:45
is
14:46
probably
14:46
not
14:47
something
14:47
most
14:47
flop
14:48
companies
14:49
start
14:49
with,
14:49
but
14:50
that's
14:51
where
14:51
I
14:51
went.
14:51
So.
14:53
Yeah,
14:53
it's
14:53
interesting
14:54
too
14:54
because
14:54
I
14:54
think
14:54
having
14:55
a
14:55
little
14:55
bit
14:55
more
14:55
feel
14:56
in
14:56
the
14:56
rod
14:56
certainly
14:57
helps
14:57
from
14:58
a
14:58
timing
14:58
perspective.
14:59
And
14:59
you
14:59
know,
15:00
because
15:00
you
15:00
feel
15:00
the
15:00
rod
15:01
better
15:01
and
15:01
it
15:01
makes
15:01
it,
15:02
I
15:03
think,
15:03
you
15:03
know,
15:03
fishing
15:04
a
15:04
rod
15:04
with
15:04
a
15:04
little
15:04
bit
15:05
more
15:05
sole
15:06
actually
15:06
makes
15:06
it
15:07
more
15:07
pleasant
15:07
because
15:07
you
15:07
don't
15:07
have
15:08
to
15:08
sit
15:08
there
15:08
and
15:08
watch
15:08
what's
15:08
happening
15:09
because
15:09
you
15:09
can
15:09
feel
15:09
what's
15:10
happening.
15:11
Yep,
15:11
yep.
15:13
So,
15:13
you
15:13
know,
15:13
you
15:14
have
15:14
a
15:14
background
15:14
in
15:14
industrial
15:15
design.
15:15
Tell
15:16
me
15:16
a
15:16
little
15:16
bit
15:16
about
15:16
how
15:17
that
15:17
kind
15:17
of
15:17
works
15:17
its
15:18
way
15:18
kind
15:18
of
15:18
into
15:19
your,
15:19
your
15:19
ride
15:19
designs
15:20
and
15:20
your,
15:21
your
15:21
manufacturing
15:22
process.
15:24
I
15:24
mean
15:25
for
15:25
the
15:25
most
15:25
part
15:26
I,
15:26
I
15:27
probably
15:27
did
15:27
things
15:28
really
15:28
backwards
15:29
from
15:29
like
15:29
what
15:29
a
15:29
traditional
15:30
fly
15:30
rod
15:31
company
15:31
would
15:31
do.
15:32
I
15:32
just
15:34
ordering
15:34
blanks,
15:36
figuring
15:36
out
15:36
the
15:36
ones
15:37
that
15:37
I
15:37
really
15:37
liked,
15:37
figuring
15:38
out
15:38
like
15:38
learning
15:39
about
15:39
tapers
15:39
and
15:40
learning
15:40
about
15:40
mandrels.
15:41
And
15:43
I,
15:43
I
15:44
designed
15:44
the
15:44
first
15:45
few
15:45
ones
15:45
in
15:45
my
15:46
rods.
15:46
I
15:46
designed
15:46
them
15:47
out
15:47
of
15:47
feel
15:48
like
15:48
reverse
15:49
engineering
15:49
them
15:50
essentially
15:50
off
15:51
of
15:51
like
15:51
blanks
15:52
that
15:52
I
15:52
would
15:52
just
15:52
order
15:53
from
15:53
a
15:53
catalog,
15:54
you
15:54
know,
15:54
until
15:54
I
15:54
found
15:55
the
15:55
ones
15:55
that
15:56
I
15:56
liked,
15:56
you
15:56
know,
15:57
and
15:57
then
15:57
from
15:58
there,
15:59
you
15:59
know,
15:59
doing
15:59
some
16:00
measurements,
16:01
figuring
16:01
out
16:01
what,
16:01
what
16:02
I
16:02
liked
16:02
about
16:02
them
16:03
and
16:03
what
16:03
they,
16:03
what
16:03
made
16:04
them,
16:04
you
16:04
know,
16:04
react
16:05
the
16:05
way
16:05
they
16:05
did.
16:06
Not
16:07
having
16:07
that
16:07
background
16:09
fly
16:09
fishing
16:10
wise,
16:10
but
16:10
having
16:11
the
16:11
industrial
16:12
design
16:12
background
16:12
to
16:13
kind
16:13
of
16:13
know
16:14
like
16:15
how
16:16
to
16:16
take
16:16
something
16:16
apart
16:17
and
16:17
dissect
16:17
it
16:18
and
16:18
really
16:18
like
16:19
figure
16:19
it
16:20
out.
16:21
That's
16:21
what,
16:22
that's
16:22
kind
16:22
of
16:22
where
16:22
the
16:23
influence
16:23
part
16:24
comes
16:24
in
16:24
is,
16:25
you
16:25
know,
16:25
obviously
16:26
like
16:26
people,
16:27
people
16:27
know
16:27
us
16:28
from
16:28
our
16:28
colors.
16:30
Our
16:30
colors
16:30
are
16:30
definitely
16:31
stand
16:31
out
16:32
against
16:32
the
16:33
crowd.
16:34
And
16:34
that
16:34
was
16:34
another
16:35
thing.
16:35
The
16:35
industrial
16:36
design
16:37
side
16:37
of
16:37
me
16:37
was
16:38
like,
16:38
like,
16:39
if
16:39
I'm
16:39
going
16:39
to
16:39
come
16:39
out
16:40
here
16:40
and
16:41
I'm
16:41
going
16:41
to
16:41
come
16:41
out
16:41
swinging
16:42
against
16:42
all
16:42
these
16:43
big
16:43
companies,
16:43
I,
16:43
I
16:44
got
16:44
to
16:44
not
16:44
look
16:45
like
16:45
all
16:45
those
16:45
big
16:45
companies.
16:46
You
16:46
know,
16:46
if
16:47
I
16:47
come
16:47
out
16:47
with
16:47
the,
16:48
you
16:48
know,
16:49
a
16:49
standard
16:50
green
16:50
rod
16:50
with
16:51
black
16:51
wraps
16:51
or
16:52
a
16:52
black
16:52
rod
16:53
with
16:53
gray
16:53
wraps,
16:54
like
16:54
I'm
16:55
going
16:55
to
16:55
get
16:55
lost
16:55
in
16:55
the
16:56
crowd
16:56
real
16:56
quick,
16:57
you
16:57
know.
16:58
Yeah.
16:59
Plus
16:59
it
16:59
helps,
16:59
you
16:59
know,
17:00
when
17:00
people
17:00
bump
17:00
into
17:01
people
17:01
fishing
17:01
your
17:01
rods
17:02
on
17:02
the
17:02
water
17:02
and
17:02
they're
17:02
like,
17:03
well,
17:03
what's
17:03
that
17:03
kind
17:03
of
17:03
lime
17:04
green
17:04
rod?
17:04
Who
17:04
made
17:05
that?
17:05
Right?
17:06
Yep,
17:06
absolutely.
17:07
I
17:07
mean,
17:08
and
17:08
it's
17:08
great.
17:08
Like
17:09
we've
17:09
been
17:09
a
17:10
major
17:10
supporter
17:10
of
17:11
like
17:11
the
17:11
Beast
17:11
of
17:11
the
17:11
east
17:12
tournament
17:13
for
17:13
the
17:13
last
17:13
four
17:14
years
17:14
or
17:14
five
17:15
years
17:15
now.
17:15
And
17:17
it's
17:17
cool
17:18
being
17:18
on
17:18
the
17:18
water
17:19
in
17:19
a
17:19
tournament
17:19
setting
17:20
and
17:21
seeing
17:21
a
17:22
bunch
17:22
of
17:22
our
17:22
like
17:23
blue
17:24
12
17:24
weights
17:25
with
17:25
bright
17:26
orange
17:26
wraps
17:27
standing
17:27
up
17:27
in
17:27
a
17:28
rod
17:28
tube,
17:28
like
17:28
going,
17:29
you
17:29
know,
17:29
flying
17:30
down
17:30
the
17:30
river,
17:30
you
17:30
know,
17:30
you
17:30
can
17:31
see
17:31
them
17:31
right
17:31
away.
17:33
Yeah.
17:34
And
17:34
it's
17:34
just,
17:34
it's
17:34
just,
17:35
it's,
17:35
it's
17:35
been
17:36
cool.
17:36
I
17:36
mean,
17:37
I've
17:37
had
17:37
a
17:38
lot
17:38
of
17:38
really
17:38
great
17:38
feedback.
17:39
People
17:40
like,
17:40
really
17:40
like
17:41
the
17:41
rods,
17:41
you
17:42
know,
17:42
and
17:43
even
17:43
at
17:43
trade
17:44
shows
17:44
and
17:44
stuff,
17:45
you
17:45
surprisingly
17:46
had
17:48
a
17:48
good
17:48
amount
17:48
of
17:48
older
17:50
folks
17:50
that
17:53
voice
17:53
their
17:53
opinions
17:54
positively
17:56
that
17:56
they're
17:56
like,
17:56
man,
17:57
these
17:57
things
17:57
look
17:58
so
17:58
great.
17:59
Sometimes
17:59
those
17:59
other
18:00
rods,
18:00
Rods
18:00
just
18:01
got
18:01
really
18:01
boring,
18:02
you
18:02
know,
18:02
And
18:02
I'm
18:02
like,
18:03
dude,
18:04
coming
18:04
from
18:04
like
18:04
a
18:05
78
18:05
year
18:06
old
18:06
dude,
18:06
that's
18:06
kind
18:07
of,
18:07
that's
18:07
pretty
18:07
cool,
18:07
you
18:08
know.
18:08
So,
18:10
yeah,
18:10
absolutely.
18:11
And
18:11
I
18:11
would,
18:11
I
18:12
wonder
18:12
too.
18:12
So
18:12
I
18:13
was
18:13
kind
18:13
of
18:13
curious.
18:14
So
18:14
have
18:14
you
18:14
found
18:15
people
18:15
making
18:16
blanks
18:16
that
18:16
you
18:17
like
18:17
or
18:17
have
18:17
you
18:18
gotten
18:18
to
18:18
designing
18:19
tapers
18:20
that
18:20
you
18:20
like
18:20
and
18:20
you
18:20
have
18:20
people
18:20
making
18:21
the
18:21
blanks
18:21
for
18:22
you?
18:22
So
18:23
I,
18:23
I,
18:24
I
18:24
have
18:24
a
18:24
factory
18:25
overseas.
18:26
They
18:26
have,
18:27
they
18:27
have
18:27
their
18:27
own
18:28
full
18:28
R
18:28
and
18:28
D
18:29
facility
18:31
and
18:33
I
18:33
basically
18:35
utilize
18:36
their
18:36
R
18:37
D
18:37
facility
18:38
to
18:38
produce
18:39
me
18:39
tapers
18:40
that
18:40
I,
18:40
that
18:41
I
18:41
want
18:42
in
18:42
the
18:43
beginning.
18:43
It
18:43
might
18:44
like
18:44
the,
18:45
the
18:45
11
18:45
weight.
18:47
I
18:47
think
18:47
I
18:47
built
18:50
10
18:50
or
18:51
11
18:51
rods
18:53
before.
18:53
I
18:53
was
18:53
like,
18:53
this
18:54
is
18:54
the
18:54
one.
18:57
I've
18:57
used
18:57
the
18:58
same
18:58
shop
18:59
from
18:59
day
18:59
one
19:00
when
19:00
I
19:00
went,
19:00
when
19:01
I
19:01
decided
19:01
to
19:01
go
19:01
factory
19:02
built.
19:05
I
19:05
still
19:05
build
19:05
all
19:06
the
19:06
originals
19:08
and
19:09
I've
19:10
got
19:10
a
19:10
really
19:10
good
19:10
working
19:11
relationship
19:11
with
19:11
them.
19:12
I
19:12
can
19:12
at
19:13
this
19:13
point,
19:13
I
19:13
can
19:13
kind
19:14
of
19:14
tell
19:14
them
19:14
what
19:14
tweaks
19:15
I
19:15
want
19:15
to
19:15
make
19:16
and
19:16
they'll
19:16
send
19:16
me
19:16
a
19:17
blank
19:17
to
19:17
test.
19:19
And
19:20
you
19:20
know,
19:20
the
19:20
last
19:20
two
19:21
or
19:21
three,
19:23
man,
19:23
they,
19:23
they
19:23
nail
19:24
them,
19:24
dude,
19:24
straight
19:25
out
19:25
of
19:25
the
19:25
gate.
19:25
That
19:26
like
19:26
I.
19:27
Our
19:27
communication's
19:28
so
19:28
good
19:28
after
19:29
5
19:29
years
19:30
been
19:30
dealing
19:30
with
19:30
the
19:31
same
19:31
person
19:31
in
19:32
the
19:32
company
19:34
and
19:34
it's
19:34
been
19:34
great.
19:35
They
19:35
own
19:35
all
19:36
the
19:36
mandrels.
19:38
And
19:38
that's
19:39
just
19:39
a
19:39
cost
19:39
thing
19:40
for
19:40
me
19:40
right
19:40
now.
19:41
Like,
19:42
it's
19:42
not
19:42
super
19:42
important
19:43
for
19:43
me
19:43
to
19:43
own
19:43
the
19:43
mandrel.
19:45
It's
19:45
more
19:45
important
19:46
for
19:46
me
19:46
to
19:46
have
19:46
access
19:47
to
19:47
a
19:47
full
19:47
R
19:48
D
19:48
facility
19:49
that
19:49
can
19:49
tweak,
19:50
you
19:50
know,
19:50
tapers
19:51
and
19:52
do
19:52
things
19:52
that
19:52
I
19:53
want
19:53
because
19:54
I
19:54
don't
19:54
have
19:54
the
19:54
ability
19:55
to.
19:55
To
19:56
build
19:56
my
19:56
own,
19:57
you
19:57
know,
19:57
facility
19:58
like
19:58
that
19:58
yet.
19:59
So
20:00
they
20:00
do,
20:01
they
20:01
do
20:01
all
20:01
that.
20:02
I
20:02
do
20:02
all
20:02
the
20:02
specs
20:03
and
20:03
then
20:03
I'll
20:04
blueprint.
20:04
I'll.
20:05
I'll
20:05
blueprint
20:06
a
20:06
rod.
20:06
Once
20:06
I
20:06
get
20:06
it
20:07
where
20:07
I
20:07
want
20:07
it,
20:08
I'll
20:08
spec
20:09
the
20:09
taper
20:09
that
20:10
they.
20:10
That's
20:10
the.
20:10
Whatever
20:11
the
20:11
final
20:11
revision
20:12
is.
20:12
I'll
20:12
spec
20:12
that
20:13
and
20:13
then
20:13
I'll
20:14
spec
20:14
everything
20:14
down
20:15
to
20:16
thread
20:17
wrap
20:17
color,
20:19
you
20:19
know,
20:19
spacing
20:20
guides,
20:22
cork
20:22
grade,
20:23
you
20:24
know,
20:24
rating
20:25
grain,
20:25
grain
20:26
window,
20:26
the
20:27
whole
20:27
deal
20:28
and
20:28
then
20:28
do
20:29
all
20:29
the
20:29
artwork
20:29
for
20:30
them.
20:30
And
20:32
it's
20:32
a,
20:33
it's
20:33
a
20:33
cool
20:33
process.
20:36
I
20:36
enjoy
20:37
it.
20:37
I
20:37
really
20:37
do
20:37
enjoy
20:38
it.
20:39
You
20:39
know,
20:40
the
20:41
first
20:41
few
20:41
rods
20:41
that
20:42
I
20:42
developed
20:42
were
20:44
I
20:44
really,
20:44
you
20:44
know,
20:44
the
20:45
5
20:45
weight,
20:45
the
20:45
7
20:46
weight
20:46
and
20:46
our
20:46
11
20:47
weight,
20:48
they
20:49
have
20:49
like
20:49
that
20:49
more
20:50
mid
20:50
flex
20:51
feel.
20:52
Really
20:52
got
20:52
a
20:52
ton
20:53
of
20:53
soul
20:53
to
20:53
them
20:55
and
20:55
just
20:55
kind
20:55
of
20:56
take
20:56
you
20:56
back
20:56
to
20:56
your
20:57
roots
20:57
cast
20:57
kind
20:58
of
20:58
feeling.
20:59
But
21:00
then,
21:00
you
21:00
know,
21:01
I've
21:01
got
21:01
some
21:01
other
21:01
rods
21:02
that
21:02
have
21:02
a
21:02
little
21:02
bit
21:02
more
21:03
action
21:03
to
21:03
them
21:03
and
21:05
a
21:05
little
21:05
wider,
21:05
a
21:05
little
21:05
faster,
21:07
you
21:07
know,
21:08
so
21:08
there's
21:08
a
21:09
little
21:09
bit
21:09
of
21:09
everything
21:09
that
21:09
every
21:10
one
21:10
of
21:10
our
21:10
rods
21:11
isn't
21:11
built
21:11
on
21:11
the
21:11
same
21:12
taper
21:13
or
21:14
blank
21:14
material.
21:15
So
21:16
very
21:16
neat.
21:17
And
21:17
so,
21:17
you
21:17
know,
21:17
it's
21:18
kind
21:18
of
21:18
interesting
21:18
hearing
21:18
you
21:18
talk
21:19
about
21:19
having
21:19
stuff
21:20
made
21:20
overseas.
21:20
How
21:21
are
21:21
you
21:21
dealing
21:22
with
21:22
the
21:22
tariff
21:22
stuff
21:23
right
21:23
now?
21:24
So
21:25
far
21:25
so
21:25
good.
21:26
I
21:26
know
21:26
some
21:27
companies
21:27
are
21:27
having
21:27
a
21:28
little
21:28
harder
21:28
time
21:28
than
21:28
we
21:29
are.
21:30
It's
21:31
the,
21:32
the
21:32
biggest
21:32
hurdle
21:33
for
21:33
us
21:33
has
21:33
been
21:35
freight
21:35
costs.
21:36
The
21:36
freight
21:36
companies
21:36
are
21:37
really
21:37
dinging
21:37
you.
21:39
Their
21:39
freight
21:40
costs
21:40
have
21:40
doubled
21:41
over
21:41
what
21:42
they
21:42
were,
21:43
which,
21:44
you
21:44
know,
21:44
is
21:45
unfortunate.
21:46
I
21:46
think
21:46
they're
21:46
trying
21:46
to
21:47
take
21:47
advantage
21:48
of
21:48
a
21:48
situation
21:49
more
21:50
than.
21:50
I
21:50
mean,
21:50
the
21:51
costs
21:51
haven't
21:51
gone
21:51
up
21:51
that
21:52
much
21:52
for
21:52
them.
21:52
It's
21:52
just.
21:54
They
21:55
see
21:55
a
21:55
chink
21:55
in
21:55
the
21:56
armor
21:56
and
21:56
they
21:56
go
21:56
for
21:56
the
21:57
throw.
21:57
Right.
21:57
So.
21:58
So.
21:59
Well,
21:59
let's,
22:00
let's
22:00
hope
22:00
that
22:01
that
22:01
gets
22:01
better.
22:02
And
22:02
the
22:02
terror
22:02
Stuff
22:03
doesn't
22:03
cause
22:03
you
22:03
any,
22:04
any
22:04
lost
22:05
sleep,
22:05
right?
22:06
Yeah,
22:06
man,
22:06
I'm,
22:07
I'm
22:07
gonna,
22:08
you
22:08
know,
22:08
we
22:09
had
22:09
a
22:09
few
22:09
questions
22:10
about
22:10
that
22:10
this
22:10
year
22:10
at
22:11
the
22:11
trade
22:11
shows
22:11
and
22:12
things.
22:12
And
22:12
I
22:13
just
22:13
kind
22:13
of
22:13
told
22:13
them,
22:13
you
22:14
know,
22:14
like,
22:14
we
22:14
know
22:15
our
22:15
numbers.
22:16
We're
22:17
gonna
22:17
try
22:17
to
22:17
hold
22:17
steadfast
22:19
as
22:20
far
22:20
and
22:20
long
22:20
as
22:20
we
22:21
can
22:21
to
22:22
our
22:22
current
22:22
pricing.
22:26
And,
22:26
you
22:26
know,
22:26
if
22:26
we
22:27
got
22:27
to
22:27
make
22:27
changes,
22:27
we
22:28
do.
22:28
But
22:29
for
22:29
now,
22:29
we're,
22:30
you
22:30
know,
22:30
my
22:31
wife
22:31
and
22:31
I
22:31
are,
22:32
are
22:32
the
22:32
entire
22:33
company
22:33
and
22:34
we're
22:34
both,
22:35
we're
22:35
both
22:35
comfortable
22:35
with
22:36
where
22:36
we're
22:36
at
22:37
and
22:38
we
22:38
want
22:38
to
22:38
try
22:38
to.
22:39
I'd
22:39
rather
22:40
get
22:40
more
22:40
hand,
22:40
more
22:41
rods
22:41
out
22:41
in
22:41
people's
22:42
hands
22:42
fishing
22:42
than
22:43
pad
22:44
my
22:44
pockets
22:44
more.
22:45
So.
22:46
Yeah.
22:46
And
22:46
so,
22:47
you
22:47
know,
22:47
kind
22:47
of
22:47
help
22:48
us,
22:48
help
22:48
me
22:48
kind
22:48
of,
22:49
you
22:49
know,
22:50
help
22:50
our
22:50
listeners
22:50
kind
22:51
of
22:51
understand
22:51
what
22:51
differentiates
22:52
your
22:52
rods,
22:53
you
22:53
know,
22:53
in
22:53
the
22:53
sense
22:53
of,
22:54
you
22:54
know,
22:54
you're
22:55
at
22:55
a
22:55
great
22:55
price
22:55
point.
22:56
How
22:56
do
22:56
you
22:56
compare
22:57
to
22:58
like
22:58
the
22:58
super
22:58
high
22:58
price
22:59
points
22:59
in
22:59
terms
22:59
of
23:00
performance
23:00
and
23:00
warranties
23:01
and
23:01
things
23:01
like
23:02
that?
23:02
And
23:02
then
23:02
similarly
23:03
to
23:03
kind
23:03
of
23:03
come
23:03
down,
23:04
you
23:04
know,
23:04
I
23:04
think
23:04
one
23:04
of
23:05
the
23:05
things
23:05
that
23:05
like,
23:05
for
23:06
example,
23:06
TFO
23:07
really
23:07
did
23:08
in
23:08
the
23:08
fly
23:08
rod
23:08
business
23:09
is
23:09
based
23:10
basically
23:10
made
23:10
everyone
23:11
start
23:11
to
23:11
make,
23:12
you
23:12
know,
23:12
for
23:12
lack
23:13
of
23:13
a
23:13
better
23:13
word,
23:13
like
23:13
an
23:13
entry,
23:14
mid
23:14
level
23:14
and
23:14
high
23:15
level
23:15
rod.
23:15
You
23:15
know,
23:15
how
23:16
do
23:16
you
23:16
kind
23:16
of
23:16
compare
23:17
to,
23:17
you
23:18
know,
23:18
other
23:19
kind
23:19
of,
23:19
you
23:19
know,
23:20
entry
23:20
level
23:20
rods
23:21
from
23:21
other
23:21
manufacturers?
23:23
Yeah,
23:23
I
23:23
mean,
23:25
you
23:25
know,
23:26
the
23:26
beauty,
23:26
the
23:26
beauty
23:27
of
23:27
it
23:27
is
23:28
we're
23:29
so
23:29
new
23:30
that
23:31
our
23:32
biggest
23:32
hurdle
23:33
is
23:33
getting
23:33
our
23:34
name
23:34
in
23:34
front
23:34
of
23:35
people.
23:36
Our
23:36
rods
23:37
perform
23:38
very,
23:38
very
23:39
well.
23:40
And
23:40
most
23:41
people
23:41
that
23:42
test
23:42
cast
23:43
one
23:43
of
23:43
our
23:43
rods
23:43
at
23:44
a
23:44
trade
23:44
show,
23:46
their,
23:46
their
23:46
immediate
23:47
response
23:47
is
23:48
this
23:48
rod
23:49
tests
23:49
or
23:50
this
23:50
rod
23:50
casts
23:51
as
23:51
good
23:51
as
23:51
X,
23:51
Y
23:52
or
23:52
Z,
23:53
you
23:53
know,
23:53
which
23:53
are
23:53
typically
23:54
all
23:55
four
23:55
to
23:56
five
23:56
hundred
23:57
dollar
23:57
rods,
23:58
you
23:58
know,
24:00
and
24:00
then
24:01
the
24:01
other
24:01
thing
24:02
is
24:02
like,
24:03
I
24:03
can't
24:03
believe
24:03
it's.
24:04
I
24:04
can't
24:04
believe
24:04
this.
24:05
You're
24:05
selling
24:05
these
24:05
rods
24:06
for
24:06
this
24:06
much,
24:07
you
24:07
know,
24:08
and
24:08
we've
24:09
got
24:09
about
24:09
a
24:10
75%
24:12
conversion
24:13
rate
24:13
at
24:13
trade
24:13
shows.
24:14
If
24:14
we're
24:15
at
24:15
a
24:15
trade
24:15
show
24:16
that
24:16
has
24:16
a,
24:18
has
24:18
a
24:18
casting
24:19
lane
24:20
and
24:20
the
24:21
availability
24:21
for
24:21
people
24:22
to
24:22
pick
24:22
a
24:22
rod
24:22
up
24:23
and
24:23
go
24:23
cast
24:23
it,
24:23
about
24:24
75%
24:25
of
24:25
those
24:25
people
24:25
come
24:25
back
24:25
and
24:26
buy
24:26
a
24:26
rod.
24:27
So
24:28
I
24:29
think
24:29
that
24:29
we're
24:29
doing
24:30
the
24:30
right
24:30
thing.
24:31
We've
24:31
grown
24:32
organically.
24:33
I've
24:34
been
24:34
a
24:34
super
24:34
big
24:35
proponent
24:35
from
24:35
day
24:36
one.
24:37
I
24:37
don't,
24:38
I
24:38
don't
24:38
believe
24:38
in
24:39
flash
24:39
in
24:39
the
24:39
pan
24:39
marketing.
24:40
I
24:41
want
24:41
to
24:41
grow
24:41
organically
24:42
and
24:42
slowly.
24:43
Word
24:43
of
24:44
mouth
24:44
is
24:44
you
24:45
know,
24:45
word
24:46
of
24:46
mouth
24:46
is
24:46
still
24:46
king
24:47
no
24:47
matter
24:47
what.
24:47
You
24:48
know,
24:48
we,
24:48
we
24:49
don't
24:49
buy,
24:49
we
24:49
don't
24:50
buy
24:50
likes,
24:50
we
24:50
don't
24:51
buy
24:51
followers
24:53
and
24:53
we,
24:53
you
24:54
know,
24:54
we
24:54
put
24:54
our
24:54
money
24:54
where
24:55
our
24:55
mouth
24:55
is.
24:55
And
24:56
I
24:56
think,
24:57
you
24:57
know,
24:58
from
24:58
a
24:58
rod's
24:59
perspective,
24:59
you
25:00
know,
25:01
a
25:01
lot
25:01
of
25:02
our,
25:02
a
25:02
lot
25:02
of
25:02
our
25:04
250,
25:05
$250
25:05
plus
25:06
rods
25:06
are
25:07
built
25:07
on
25:07
Fuji
25:08
Alkanite
25:08
guides.
25:10
Really
25:10
good
25:10
modulus
25:12
blanks.
25:14
You
25:14
know,
25:15
the,
25:16
the
25:16
componentry
25:17
is
25:17
there.
25:17
You
25:17
can
25:18
see
25:18
it
25:18
and
25:18
feel
25:18
it.
25:19
Another
25:20
cool
25:20
thing
25:20
for
25:21
us,
25:22
you
25:22
know,
25:22
from
25:22
a
25:23
sales
25:23
perspective,
25:24
everything,
25:26
everything
25:27
six
25:27
weight
25:27
and
25:27
above
25:28
comes
25:28
with
25:28
an
25:28
extra
25:29
tip
25:29
in
25:29
the,
25:29
in
25:30
the
25:30
rod
25:30
tube.
25:32
Part
25:32
of
25:33
my
25:33
reasoning
25:34
for
25:34
that
25:34
is
25:36
just
25:36
because
25:37
I've
25:37
been
25:38
on
25:38
trips
25:38
before
25:39
where
25:39
I
25:39
did
25:39
something
25:39
stupid
25:40
and
25:40
broke
25:40
a
25:40
tip
25:41
and
25:41
it
25:42
just
25:42
ruined
25:42
my
25:42
trip
25:43
because
25:43
I
25:43
was
25:43
just
25:43
bombed,
25:44
you
25:44
know,
25:44
so
25:45
having
25:45
an
25:46
extra
25:46
one
25:47
there,
25:49
you
25:49
know,
25:50
it,
25:51
it's
25:52
not,
25:52
it's
25:52
not
25:52
a
25:52
huge
25:53
thing,
25:53
but
25:53
it's
25:54
something,
25:54
it's,
25:54
it's
25:55
a
25:55
nod
25:55
to
25:55
let
25:55
people
25:56
know
25:56
like,
25:56
hey
25:56
man,
25:57
like
25:58
I
25:58
grew
25:58
up,
25:58
you
25:59
know,
26:00
I
26:00
grew
26:00
up
26:01
fishing
26:01
and
26:01
traveling
26:02
and
26:02
fishing
26:02
and
26:04
I'm
26:05
trying,
26:05
we're
26:05
trying
26:05
to
26:05
think
26:06
through
26:06
all
26:06
those
26:06
little
26:06
details.
26:07
You
26:07
know,
26:09
another
26:10
really
26:11
big
26:11
thing
26:11
that
26:12
we
26:12
do
26:12
that
26:12
a
26:12
lot
26:12
of
26:13
companies
26:13
don't
26:13
do,
26:14
we
26:15
do
26:15
not
26:15
replace
26:16
sections
26:16
of
26:16
a
26:17
rod.
26:18
I
26:18
just
26:19
don't,
26:19
don't
26:19
agree
26:20
with
26:20
it.
26:21
I've
26:21
never
26:22
had
26:22
a
26:22
good
26:22
experience
26:23
with
26:24
trying
26:24
to
26:24
get
26:24
one
26:25
section
26:25
replaced
26:25
on
26:26
a
26:26
rod.
26:27
The
26:27
rod
26:27
just
26:28
has
26:28
never
26:28
felt
26:29
the
26:29
same
26:30
ever
26:30
again.
26:31
So
26:31
if
26:32
one
26:32
of
26:32
our
26:32
customers
26:33
breaks
26:33
a
26:33
rod,
26:35
there
26:36
is
26:36
a
26:37
replacement
26:38
fee,
26:39
65
26:40
plus
26:40
shipping.
26:41
And
26:41
you
26:41
know,
26:42
if
26:42
it's
26:42
on
26:42
their
26:42
side,
26:43
if
26:43
they
26:43
smash
26:44
it
26:44
in
26:44
a
26:44
car
26:44
door
26:45
or
26:45
something,
26:46
$65
26:47
plus
26:47
shipping,
26:47
they're
26:48
getting
26:48
a
26:48
brand
26:48
new
26:49
fly
26:49
rod
26:50
shipped
26:50
to
26:50
their
26:50
door.
26:53
So,
26:53
and
26:53
if
26:53
it's
26:53
something
26:54
on
26:54
our
26:54
end,
26:55
you
26:55
know,
26:56
a
26:56
guy,
26:56
they
26:57
have
26:57
a
26:57
guide
26:57
failure
26:58
or
26:58
something
26:58
happens
26:59
that
26:59
we
26:59
can
27:00
identify
27:00
as
27:01
a
27:01
quality
27:02
issue,
27:02
then
27:03
we
27:03
ship
27:03
them
27:03
a
27:03
brand
27:03
new
27:04
rod
27:04
on
27:04
our
27:04
dime.
27:05
So
27:06
I
27:06
think
27:07
that's
27:07
something
27:07
that's
27:07
kind
27:08
of
27:08
unheard
27:08
of
27:08
in
27:08
the
27:09
industry.
27:10
Most
27:10
people
27:11
don't
27:11
know
27:11
that's
27:12
our
27:12
policy
27:13
just
27:13
because
27:13
we're
27:14
so
27:14
small
27:14
still.
27:15
But
27:16
it's
27:16
just
27:16
another
27:17
thing
27:17
that
27:17
we
27:17
do
27:18
to
27:18
try
27:18
to
27:18
get
27:18
people
27:19
back
27:19
out
27:19
fishing
27:20
quickly
27:21
and
27:21
not
27:22
have
27:22
ongoing
27:23
problems
27:23
with
27:23
a
27:24
rod
27:24
that
27:25
they
27:25
have,
27:25
you
27:25
know,
27:26
three
27:27
sections
27:27
that
27:27
are
27:28
two
27:28
years
27:28
old
27:28
and
27:28
then
27:28
one
27:29
section
27:29
that's
27:29
brand
27:30
new.
27:31
It's
27:32
just,
27:32
it's
27:33
a
27:33
philosophy
27:33
that
27:34
we're
27:34
going
27:34
to
27:34
stick
27:34
with
27:36
and
27:37
you
27:37
know,
27:38
it's
27:39
Obviously
27:39
not
27:40
the
27:40
best
27:41
financial
27:41
model,
27:42
but
27:44
we're,
27:45
we're
27:45
willing
27:45
to
27:45
put
27:45
our
27:46
money
27:46
where
27:46
our
27:46
mouth
27:46
is
27:47
and
27:47
we
27:48
want
27:48
people
27:48
to
27:48
be
27:48
happy
27:49
with
27:49
our
27:49
product
27:49
and
27:50
get
27:50
back
27:50
out
27:50
to
27:50
fishing.
27:52
Yeah.
27:52
It's
27:52
funny
27:52
you
27:52
say
27:53
that.
27:53
We
27:53
should
27:53
have
27:54
a
27:54
few
27:54
beers
27:54
sometime
27:55
and
27:55
talk
27:55
about
27:55
organic,
27:56
Organic
27:57
growth.
27:57
Cause
27:58
I
27:58
think
27:58
that's,
27:59
I
27:59
actually
28:00
think
28:00
it's
28:00
a
28:00
superpower
28:01
in
28:01
this
28:01
day
28:01
and
28:01
age.
28:02
And
28:02
I
28:02
think
28:02
the
28:02
more
28:02
and
28:02
more
28:03
we
28:03
see
28:03
technology,
28:04
I
28:04
think
28:04
it's
28:04
going
28:05
to
28:05
be
28:05
more
28:05
and
28:05
more
28:05
important
28:06
for,
28:07
for
28:08
real
28:08
companies
28:08
to
28:08
grow
28:09
their
28:09
businesses.
28:10
Yeah,
28:11
I,
28:11
I
28:11
mean,
28:13
I
28:13
think
28:13
that
28:14
a
28:14
man's
28:15
word
28:15
is
28:16
always
28:16
going
28:17
to
28:17
be
28:17
valuable,
28:18
you
28:18
know,
28:19
and
28:19
organic
28:20
growth
28:20
is
28:20
a
28:20
lot
28:20
like
28:21
that.
28:22
Organic
28:22
growth
28:23
to
28:23
me
28:23
is
28:23
kind
28:23
of
28:23
like
28:24
a
28:24
man's
28:24
handshake.
28:25
Right.
28:25
So
28:27
it's
28:27
not
28:28
something,
28:28
you
28:29
know,
28:29
if,
28:29
if
28:29
you
28:29
stand
28:30
behind
28:30
it
28:30
and
28:31
you
28:31
stand
28:31
behind
28:31
your
28:32
product
28:32
and
28:32
you
28:32
do
28:33
what
28:33
you
28:33
say
28:33
you're
28:34
going
28:34
to
28:34
do.
28:34
And
28:36
I,
28:36
I
28:36
think
28:36
it's.
28:37
Yeah.
28:37
I
28:38
mean,
28:38
in
28:38
this
28:38
world
28:39
of
28:39
AI
28:39
and
28:40
all
28:40
this
28:40
other
28:40
stuff,
28:40
like,
28:41
people
28:41
can
28:41
create
28:41
fake
28:42
things,
28:42
but
28:43
if
28:44
you're
28:44
a
28:44
human
28:44
doing
28:45
good
28:46
things
28:46
and
28:47
being
28:48
a
28:48
good
28:48
person
28:49
and
28:50
creating
28:50
a
28:50
good
28:51
brand
28:51
and
28:51
sticking
28:52
behind
28:52
it,
28:52
like,
28:53
they
28:54
can't
28:54
take
28:54
that
28:54
away
28:54
from
28:55
you.
28:55
So.
28:56
Yeah,
28:57
and
28:57
I've
28:57
never
28:57
understood
28:58
this
28:58
whole
28:58
game
28:58
of
28:58
buying
28:59
followers.
28:59
Like,
29:00
I
29:00
just,
29:00
it
29:00
just
29:01
makes
29:01
no.
29:01
Sense
29:01
to
29:01
me,
29:03
man.
29:03
When
29:04
you
29:04
start
29:04
putting
29:04
a
29:04
dollar
29:05
figure
29:05
to
29:05
it,
29:06
that's
29:06
what,
29:07
that's,
29:07
that's
29:07
how
29:07
they
29:07
make
29:08
it
29:08
make
29:08
sense,
29:08
you
29:09
know,
29:10
that's
29:10
where
29:10
it
29:10
went
29:11
wrong,
29:11
you
29:11
know,
29:12
so
29:13
every
29:13
10,000
29:14
followers
29:14
you
29:15
get
29:15
is
29:15
a
29:16
dollar
29:16
amount
29:16
and
29:17
that's,
29:18
that's
29:18
when
29:18
things
29:19
kind
29:20
of
29:20
go,
29:20
go
29:20
askew
29:21
a
29:21
little
29:21
bit.
29:22
Yeah,
29:22
it's
29:22
interesting.
29:23
So,
29:23
like,
29:23
in
29:23
my
29:24
world,
29:24
you
29:24
know,
29:26
you
29:26
know,
29:27
I,
29:27
I
29:27
don't
29:28
believe
29:28
in
29:28
buying
29:28
the
29:28
listeners
29:29
and
29:29
the
29:29
followers
29:30
because
29:30
when
29:30
you
29:30
go
29:30
to
29:30
sell
29:31
advertising,
29:31
you
29:31
want
29:32
to
29:32
sell
29:32
people
29:32
real
29:32
engagement.
29:33
Right.
29:35
It's
29:35
also
29:35
too,
29:36
like,
29:36
I,
29:36
you
29:36
know,
29:37
I
29:37
don't
29:37
know
29:37
how
29:37
you
29:38
feel
29:38
about
29:38
promotions
29:38
and
29:39
things
29:39
like
29:39
that,
29:39
but
29:39
I'm
29:40
very
29:41
promotion
29:42
averse
29:43
unless
29:43
it's
29:43
got
29:44
a
29:44
really
29:44
good
29:44
kind
29:45
of
29:45
reason
29:45
behind
29:46
it.
29:46
Because
29:46
I
29:46
think,
29:47
you
29:47
know,
29:47
my,
29:48
my
29:48
feeling
29:48
is
29:48
people
29:49
understand
29:49
what
29:49
free
29:50
means.
29:51
And
29:51
you're
29:52
not
29:52
really
29:52
testing
29:53
anything
29:53
other
29:53
than
29:53
people
29:53
that
29:54
are
29:54
looking
29:54
for,
29:54
you
29:55
know,
29:55
free
29:55
tires,
29:56
basically.
29:57
Yeah,
29:58
Yeah.
29:58
I
29:58
mean,
29:59
we're,
29:59
we're
29:59
kind
30:00
of
30:00
similar
30:00
to
30:00
that.
30:00
I
30:01
mean,
30:01
we,
30:02
we
30:02
get
30:02
people,
30:03
you
30:03
know,
30:03
do
30:04
you,
30:04
do
30:04
you
30:04
have
30:04
a
30:04
pro
30:04
staff?
30:05
And,
30:05
you
30:05
know,
30:06
I
30:06
kind
30:06
of
30:06
always
30:06
tell
30:06
them
30:07
like,
30:07
like
30:07
everyone's,
30:08
you
30:08
know,
30:09
like
30:09
our,
30:10
our
30:10
rod
30:10
prices
30:10
are
30:11
pretty
30:11
affordable.
30:13
And
30:13
you
30:13
know,
30:14
when
30:14
you
30:14
buy
30:14
a
30:14
rod,
30:14
you
30:15
become
30:15
a
30:15
member
30:15
of
30:15
the
30:15
wolf
30:16
pack,
30:16
and
30:16
the
30:16
wolf
30:17
packs
30:17
are
30:17
pro
30:17
staff.
30:18
You
30:18
know,
30:18
like,
30:19
we've
30:19
got,
30:20
we've
30:20
got
30:21
folks
30:21
in
30:21
Canada
30:22
and
30:22
in
30:22
America
30:23
here
30:23
in
30:23
the
30:23
North
30:23
America,
30:24
too.
30:24
Like,
30:25
they
30:26
bought
30:26
one
30:26
rod,
30:26
and
30:27
within
30:27
a
30:27
year,
30:28
they
30:28
own
30:28
every
30:28
rod
30:28
we
30:29
make,
30:29
you
30:30
know,
30:30
and
30:30
like,
30:30
they
30:31
paid
30:31
full
30:31
price
30:31
for
30:31
all
30:32
of
30:32
them.
30:32
And
30:32
like,
30:33
when
30:33
we
30:33
went
30:33
to
30:34
Canada
30:34
for
30:34
the
30:34
Toronto
30:35
Sportsman
30:35
show
30:36
this
30:36
year,
30:38
two
30:39
customers
30:40
that
30:40
I
30:40
met
30:40
at
30:40
a
30:41
fly
30:41
fishing
30:42
Muskie
30:42
tournament
30:43
in
30:43
2019,
30:45
they
30:45
took,
30:46
they
30:46
took
30:46
days
30:47
off
30:47
to
30:48
come
30:48
work
30:48
the
30:49
booth
30:49
with
30:49
us.
30:51
Like,
30:52
just
30:53
surprised
30:53
me.
30:54
Like,
30:54
they
30:54
didn't,
30:55
you
30:55
know,
30:55
they're
30:55
like,
30:55
oh,
30:56
if.
30:57
I
30:57
just
30:57
thought
30:57
they
30:57
meant,
30:58
like,
30:58
they
30:58
were
30:58
going
30:58
to
30:58
come
30:58
hang
30:59
out
30:59
or,
30:59
like,
31:00
see
31:00
us.
31:01
Like,
31:01
they're
31:01
like,
31:01
no,
31:02
we
31:02
took
31:02
the,
31:02
we
31:02
took
31:03
the
31:03
days
31:03
off
31:03
to
31:03
come
31:04
help
31:04
you
31:04
work
31:05
the
31:05
booth,
31:05
you
31:06
know,
31:06
like
31:07
taking
31:07
people
31:08
over
31:08
to
31:08
the
31:08
casting
31:09
lane
31:09
to,
31:09
like,
31:10
teach
31:10
them
31:10
how
31:10
to
31:11
cast
31:11
and
31:11
fly,
31:12
you
31:12
know,
31:12
like
31:13
work
31:13
with
31:13
kids
31:14
and
31:14
things.
31:14
Because
31:15
they
31:15
just
31:15
knew,
31:15
like,
31:15
we
31:15
were
31:16
going
31:16
to
31:16
be
31:16
inundated
31:16
with
31:17
people.
31:17
I
31:17
think,
31:17
like
31:17
70,000
31:18
people
31:18
came
31:19
through
31:19
that
31:19
show
31:19
in
31:20
four
31:20
days.
31:21
So,
31:22
like,
31:24
that's
31:24
something
31:24
you
31:25
can't
31:25
buy.
31:26
Yeah,
31:26
I
31:26
would
31:27
say,
31:27
too.
31:27
I
31:27
mean,
31:27
it's,
31:28
it's
31:28
the,
31:29
the
31:29
real
31:29
power
31:29
of
31:29
it
31:30
is,
31:30
you
31:30
know,
31:30
plenty
31:31
of
31:31
people
31:31
will
31:31
fish
31:32
and
31:32
wear
31:32
stuff
31:32
that
31:33
people
31:33
give
31:33
them
31:33
for
31:33
free.
31:34
Yep.
31:35
Right.
31:36
And
31:36
so,
31:36
you
31:36
know,
31:37
kind
31:37
of
31:37
to
31:37
that
31:37
point,
31:37
like,
31:38
I'm
31:38
a
31:38
big
31:38
believer.
31:38
Like,
31:39
I
31:39
just
31:39
tell
31:39
people,
31:39
like,
31:39
this
31:40
is
31:40
what
31:40
I
31:40
spend
31:40
my
31:40
money
31:41
on.
31:42
Right.
31:43
And
31:43
I
31:43
think
31:43
that's
31:44
a
31:44
very,
31:44
very
31:44
powerful
31:45
brand
31:45
testimony.
31:47
Yeah,
31:47
I
31:47
think
31:48
so,
31:48
too.
31:48
I
31:48
mean,
31:49
and,
31:49
you
31:49
know,
31:49
we
31:50
have
31:50
started
31:50
trying
31:51
to
31:51
mess
31:51
with
31:51
the,
31:52
the
31:52
guide
31:53
side
31:54
of
31:54
things
31:55
to
31:55
try
31:55
to
31:56
get
31:57
our
31:57
name
31:57
out
31:57
there
31:58
more.
31:59
But,
31:59
you
32:00
know,
32:00
I
32:00
grew,
32:00
I
32:01
grew
32:01
up
32:01
racing
32:01
motorcycles
32:02
and
32:02
bicycles,
32:03
too,
32:04
and
32:04
I've
32:05
run
32:05
teams
32:05
and
32:05
done
32:06
the
32:06
team
32:06
manager
32:06
thing.
32:07
And
32:07
one
32:08
of
32:08
the
32:08
pet
32:08
peeves
32:08
for
32:09
me
32:09
as
32:09
a
32:09
team
32:10
manager
32:10
was
32:10
always
32:11
like,
32:11
you
32:12
know,
32:12
you
32:12
had
32:12
your
32:12
bike
32:13
sponsor
32:13
and
32:13
the
32:14
first
32:14
thing
32:14
you
32:14
did
32:14
at
32:14
the
32:15
beginning
32:15
of
32:15
the
32:15
year
32:16
was
32:17
you
32:17
got
32:17
your
32:18
discounts
32:18
and
32:18
everyone
32:19
ordered
32:19
all
32:19
their
32:19
parts,
32:20
you
32:20
know,
32:20
so
32:21
you,
32:21
you,
32:21
you
32:21
got,
32:21
you
32:22
know,
32:22
whatever,
32:22
50,
32:23
65%
32:24
off
32:24
for
32:24
all
32:24
your
32:24
stuff
32:25
to
32:25
get.
32:25
To
32:26
get
32:26
all
32:26
your
32:26
stuff
32:26
ready
32:27
to
32:27
build
32:27
your
32:27
bike
32:28
to
32:28
go
32:28
for
32:28
the
32:28
racing,
32:29
you
32:29
know,
32:30
and
32:30
then
32:31
it
32:31
was
32:31
crickets,
32:32
you
32:32
know,
32:32
the
32:33
whole
32:33
deal
32:33
was
32:33
here,
32:34
you
32:34
guys
32:34
are
32:34
going
32:34
to
32:35
be
32:35
on
32:35
this
32:35
team,
32:35
you're
32:35
going
32:35
to
32:35
get
32:36
your
32:36
jerseys,
32:36
you're
32:36
going
32:37
to
32:37
get
32:37
all
32:37
your
32:37
parts,
32:37
and
32:37
then
32:38
you're
32:38
going
32:38
to
32:38
race
32:38
all
32:38
season,
32:39
and
32:39
you're
32:39
going
32:40
to
32:40
do
32:40
all
32:40
these
32:40
things
32:40
on
32:41
social
32:41
media
32:41
and
32:42
promote
32:42
the,
32:43
you
32:43
know,
32:43
promote
32:44
the
32:44
companies
32:44
that
32:44
support
32:45
us.
32:45
And
32:45
then
32:46
once
32:46
they
32:46
got
32:47
their
32:47
stuff,
32:48
it
32:48
was
32:48
like
32:49
they
32:49
forgot
32:50
all
32:50
that,
32:50
you
32:50
know,
32:50
and
32:51
you
32:51
can't
32:51
take
32:51
it
32:51
all
32:52
back
32:52
because
32:52
they
32:53
did
32:53
pay
32:53
for
32:53
it,
32:54
you
32:54
know,
32:54
to
32:54
some
32:54
degree.
32:55
And
32:57
that
32:57
was
32:57
my
32:57
worry
32:58
with
32:58
the
32:58
whole
32:58
pro
32:59
deal,
32:59
like
33:00
guide
33:01
ambassador
33:02
thing
33:02
was
33:02
like,
33:04
like,
33:04
how
33:04
do
33:05
you,
33:05
how
33:05
do
33:05
you
33:06
patrol
33:06
that?
33:06
You
33:07
know,
33:07
we're
33:07
going
33:07
up,
33:08
we're
33:08
going
33:08
up
33:09
against
33:09
these
33:09
huge
33:10
companies
33:10
that,
33:11
you
33:11
know,
33:11
you
33:11
might
33:12
get
33:12
a
33:12
new
33:12
guide
33:12
that
33:13
wants
33:13
to
33:13
get
33:13
a
33:13
good
33:13
deal
33:14
on
33:14
some
33:14
rods,
33:14
but
33:15
the
33:15
first
33:16
chance
33:16
they
33:17
get,
33:17
or
33:17
the
33:18
first
33:18
sniff
33:18
they
33:19
get
33:19
by
33:19
G.
33:19
Loomis
33:20
or
33:20
one
33:20
of
33:20
these
33:20
big
33:21
companies
33:21
to
33:21
get
33:22
some
33:22
support,
33:23
like
33:23
the
33:23
first
33:24
thing
33:24
they
33:24
do
33:24
is
33:24
drop
33:25
us,
33:25
you
33:25
know,
33:26
because,
33:26
because
33:26
Orvis
33:27
or
33:27
G.
33:28
Loomis
33:28
is
33:28
way
33:29
cooler.
33:29
Right.
33:30
So
33:30
it's,
33:31
it's
33:31
a
33:31
hard
33:31
thing
33:31
to
33:31
police.
33:32
So
33:34
we
33:34
just
33:34
kind
33:34
of
33:34
done
33:35
that
33:35
organically
33:35
too,
33:36
you
33:37
know.
33:38
And
33:39
I've
33:39
just
33:40
met
33:40
people
33:41
along
33:41
the
33:41
way
33:42
and
33:42
kind
33:42
of
33:42
let
33:43
them
33:43
ask
33:43
me
33:43
what
33:44
they
33:44
want,
33:45
what
33:45
they
33:45
need.
33:48
Most
33:48
of
33:48
them
33:48
want
33:49
to
33:49
support
33:49
us
33:50
because
33:50
they
33:50
like
33:50
us
33:51
as
33:51
humans
33:52
and
33:52
they
33:53
think
33:53
the
33:53
rods
33:54
cast
33:54
well
33:57
and
33:57
they're
33:57
not
33:57
under
33:57
any
33:58
kind
33:58
of
34:00
obligation
34:00
through
34:01
a
34:01
shop
34:01
to
34:02
run
34:02
a
34:03
certain
34:03
brand
34:03
in
34:03
their
34:04
boat,
34:04
you
34:04
know,
34:05
so
34:06
we're,
34:06
we're
34:06
still
34:07
playing
34:07
with
34:07
it.
34:08
We've
34:08
got
34:08
a
34:08
couple
34:08
different
34:09
tiers
34:09
of
34:11
guide
34:11
ambassadorship,
34:12
you
34:12
know,
34:13
so
34:14
if,
34:14
if
34:14
people,
34:15
if
34:15
guides
34:15
are
34:15
out
34:16
there
34:16
and
34:16
they
34:16
want
34:17
to
34:17
get
34:17
some
34:17
of
34:17
our
34:18
product
34:18
in
34:18
their
34:18
boats,
34:20
we
34:20
usually
34:20
test
34:20
the
34:21
waters
34:21
with
34:21
a
34:21
smaller
34:22
discount,
34:23
see
34:24
if
34:24
they're
34:24
gonna
34:25
do
34:25
what
34:25
they
34:25
say
34:26
they're
34:26
gonna
34:26
do,
34:26
and
34:27
then
34:27
they
34:27
can
34:27
work
34:27
their
34:28
way
34:28
up
34:28
into
34:29
a
34:29
bigger
34:30
discount
34:31
as
34:31
a
34:32
guide.
34:33
Because
34:33
it
34:34
is
34:34
important
34:35
when
34:35
people
34:35
are
34:36
out
34:36
catching
34:37
fish,
34:37
they
34:37
look
34:37
down
34:38
and
34:38
see
34:38
what
34:38
they're
34:38
fishing
34:39
usually.
34:39
And
34:40
if,
34:40
you
34:41
know,
34:41
we
34:41
could
34:41
get
34:41
some
34:42
brand
34:42
recognition
34:42
out
34:43
of
34:43
that,
34:43
it's
34:43
important.
34:44
So
34:46
very,
34:46
very
34:46
neat.
34:47
And
34:47
so
34:47
why
34:47
don't
34:47
you,
34:47
Dave,
34:48
walk
34:48
us
34:48
through.
34:49
I
34:49
think
34:49
you've
34:49
got
34:49
what,
34:50
about
34:50
a
34:50
half
34:50
a
34:50
dozen
34:51
specific
34:52
rod
34:53
rides?
34:53
You
34:53
want
34:53
to
34:53
walk
34:54
us
34:54
through
34:54
those?
34:55
Yeah.
34:56
So
34:56
we,
34:57
we
34:57
run,
34:57
we
34:58
have
34:58
everything
34:58
from
34:58
a
34:59
10
34:59
foot
34:59
3
35:00
weight
35:00
up
35:00
to
35:00
a
35:00
9
35:01
foot
35:01
12
35:01
weight.
35:02
So
35:02
we've
35:03
got
35:03
our
35:03
high
35:03
stick,
35:04
which
35:05
is
35:05
our
35:05
10
35:05
foot
35:05
3
35:06
weight.
35:08
Great
35:08
entry
35:08
level
35:09
price
35:10
at
35:10
179.
35:12
A
35:13
really,
35:13
I
35:13
mean
35:14
it's
35:14
a,
35:14
it's
35:14
a
35:14
fun
35:14
casting
35:15
rod.
35:15
You
35:15
know,
35:16
whether
35:16
you're
35:16
Kentucky
35:17
farm
35:17
ponding
35:18
for
35:18
pan
35:18
fish
35:18
out
35:19
of
35:19
a
35:19
canoe.
35:20
Uh,
35:20
tons
35:20
of
35:21
guys
35:21
do
35:21
that.
35:21
Just,
35:22
they
35:22
just
35:22
use
35:22
that
35:23
extra
35:24
one
35:24
foot
35:24
of
35:24
length
35:25
to
35:25
roll
35:25
cast
35:26
their
35:26
cast
35:26
out
35:26
there
35:26
while
35:27
they're
35:27
sitting
35:27
down.
35:29
It's
35:29
an
35:29
effortless
35:30
cast
35:30
and
35:30
rod.
35:33
Great,
35:33
great,
35:34
great
35:35
option
35:35
for
35:36
someone
35:36
that
35:37
wants
35:37
to
35:39
not
35:39
just
35:39
have
35:39
a,
35:40
a
35:40
ten
35:40
foot
35:41
three
35:41
weight
35:41
that
35:42
is
35:42
solely
35:42
just
35:43
built
35:44
for
35:44
euro
35:44
nymphing.
35:45
You
35:45
know,
35:45
like
35:45
it
35:46
casts
35:46
well,
35:48
it
35:48
roll
35:49
casts
35:49
well.
35:50
It's
35:50
not,
35:51
it
35:51
doesn't
35:51
have
35:51
a,
35:53
a
35:53
down
35:53
locking
35:54
reel
35:54
seat
35:54
on
35:55
it.
35:55
I
35:56
did
35:56
that
35:56
for
35:56
a
35:56
reason.
35:57
I
35:57
wanted
35:57
to,
35:58
I
35:58
left
35:58
a
35:58
little
35:59
bit
35:59
of
35:59
room
35:59
in
35:59
the
35:59
quiver
36:00
to,
36:00
to
36:01
develop
36:01
a
36:01
more
36:02
euro
36:02
specific
36:03
rod
36:04
down
36:04
the
36:04
road
36:04
as
36:04
we
36:05
grew.
36:07
And
36:07
then
36:07
we've
36:08
our
36:08
9
36:08
foot
36:08
5
36:09
weight,
36:09
the
36:09
roll
36:09
caster.
36:10
It's
36:11
going
36:11
to
36:11
be
36:12
more
36:12
of
36:12
a
36:12
medium,
36:13
medium
36:14
action
36:14
rod.
36:16
A
36:16
lot
36:16
of
36:16
people
36:18
compare
36:18
it
36:19
to
36:19
like
36:19
the
36:19
Reddington
36:20
classic
36:20
trout,
36:21
like
36:21
that
36:21
kind
36:22
of
36:22
a
36:22
feeling
36:22
rod.
36:23
So
36:23
lot,
36:24
lot
36:24
more
36:24
forgiveness,
36:25
a
36:25
little
36:25
bit
36:26
more
36:26
soul
36:27
roll
36:28
cast
36:28
beautifully.
36:30
The
36:31
beauty
36:31
of
36:31
that
36:31
rod,
36:33
when
36:33
I
36:33
was
36:33
developing
36:34
it,
36:34
I
36:34
really
36:35
wanted
36:35
a
36:35
rod
36:35
that
36:35
was
36:36
light
36:36
in
36:36
hand
36:37
but
36:37
like
36:38
a
36:38
beginner
36:38
could
36:38
pick
36:38
up
36:39
and
36:40
put
36:40
a
36:41
loop
36:41
together
36:42
and
36:42
not
36:42
feel
36:42
like
36:42
they're
36:43
fighting
36:43
the
36:43
rod
36:43
the
36:43
whole
36:44
time.
36:45
And
36:45
it,
36:46
it's
36:46
cool
36:46
watching
36:47
people
36:48
pick
36:49
that
36:49
rod
36:49
up
36:49
for
36:49
the
36:50
first
36:50
time.
36:51
Even
36:51
like
36:52
casting
36:52
instructors,
36:53
they'll
36:54
pick
36:54
it
36:54
up
36:54
and
36:55
they'll,
36:55
they'll,
36:56
they'll
36:56
try
36:56
to
36:56
cast
36:57
at
36:57
like
36:57
a
36:57
super
36:58
fast
36:59
dry
36:59
fly
37:00
rod
37:00
or
37:00
something
37:00
and
37:03
they'll
37:03
slow
37:03
down
37:04
their
37:04
cast
37:04
and
37:04
get
37:04
it
37:05
and
37:05
then
37:05
they'll
37:05
just
37:05
be,
37:06
they'll
37:06
weld
37:06
it.
37:06
You
37:07
know,
37:07
it's
37:07
like
37:07
they
37:07
can
37:08
immediately
37:08
adjust
37:09
to
37:09
that
37:09
rod
37:10
and
37:10
get
37:11
it
37:11
working
37:11
the
37:11
way
37:11
it
37:11
needs
37:12
to.
37:13
And
37:13
then
37:13
you
37:13
pick
37:13
up.
37:14
A
37:14
beginner
37:15
will
37:15
pick
37:15
it
37:16
up
37:16
and
37:16
go
37:16
out
37:16
there
37:16
and
37:16
they
37:17
immediately
37:18
have
37:18
confidence,
37:19
you
37:19
know,
37:19
so,
37:22
so
37:22
that's
37:22
our
37:22
nine
37:22
foot
37:23
five
37:23
weight.
37:23
We
37:23
have
37:23
got
37:23
a
37:24
nine
37:24
foot
37:24
six
37:24
weight
37:25
with
37:25
a
37:25
fighting
37:25
butt
37:26
called
37:26
the
37:26
Fish
37:27
Whistle.
37:28
That's
37:28
going
37:28
to
37:28
be
37:29
our
37:29
first
37:30
rod
37:30
that
37:30
has
37:31
more
37:31
of
37:31
a
37:31
salt
37:31
inspired
37:32
taper,
37:32
A
37:32
little
37:33
wider
37:34
modulus,
37:35
a
37:35
little
37:35
more
37:36
tip
37:38
action
37:39
so
37:39
it's
37:39
a
37:39
little
37:39
lighter,
37:40
a
37:40
little
37:40
faster.
37:41
That
37:42
rod
37:42
was
37:42
originally
37:43
designed
37:43
for
37:44
fishing
37:45
dock
37:45
light
37:45
fishing
37:46
for
37:47
juvenile
37:47
tarpon
37:48
and
37:48
snook
37:49
down
37:49
in
37:49
Florida
37:50
for
37:50
a
37:50
guide
37:51
buddy
37:51
of
37:51
mine.
37:52
And
37:53
once
37:54
I
37:54
got
37:54
done
37:54
with
37:54
it,
37:56
I
37:56
just
37:56
really
37:57
enjoyed
37:57
casting
37:57
it.
37:58
I
37:58
was
37:58
like,
37:59
you
37:59
know
38:00
man,
38:00
I
38:01
need
38:01
to
38:01
add
38:01
this
38:01
one
38:01
to
38:02
the
38:02
lineup.
38:02
So
38:03
nine
38:03
foot
38:03
six
38:04
weight
38:04
Fish
38:04
whistle.
38:05
Then
38:05
our
38:06
nine
38:06
foot
38:06
seven
38:07
is
38:07
the
38:07
streamer
38:07
stick
38:09
that
38:10
is
38:10
going
38:10
to
38:10
be
38:11
going
38:11
back
38:11
to
38:12
more
38:12
of
38:12
the
38:12
traditional
38:13
mid
38:13
flex
38:14
feeling
38:14
rod.
38:15
Super
38:16
fun
38:16
to
38:16
cast.
38:17
You
38:17
know,
38:18
all
38:18
of
38:18
our
38:18
rods
38:18
are
38:19
kind
38:19
of
38:19
named
38:20
something
38:20
a
38:20
little
38:20
different
38:22
and
38:22
based
38:22
off
38:22
of
38:23
their
38:23
kind
38:24
of
38:24
indicative
38:24
of,
38:25
you
38:25
know,
38:26
what
38:26
their
38:26
qualities
38:27
are.
38:28
So
38:30
that
38:30
one's
38:31
179
38:32
price
38:33
point
38:33
for
38:33
that
38:34
one
38:35
because
38:35
of
38:35
the
38:35
componentries,
38:37
you
38:38
know,
38:38
a
38:38
little
38:38
bit
38:39
more
38:39
in
38:39
line
38:39
with
38:39
the
38:40
five
38:40
weight
38:40
stuff.
38:42
The,
38:43
the
38:43
next
38:43
rod
38:44
that
38:44
we
38:45
have
38:45
is
38:48
the
38:48
eight
38:49
foot
38:50
bomber
38:50
is
38:50
our
38:51
graphite
38:52
eight
38:52
weight.
38:55
The
38:55
nine
38:55
foot
38:56
nine
38:56
foot
38:56
eight
38:56
weight
38:57
bomber.
38:58
That
38:58
one
38:58
is
38:59
built
39:00
on
39:00
a
39:02
similar
39:02
taper
39:02
to
39:03
our
39:03
six
39:03
weight.
39:03
So
39:04
a
39:04
little
39:04
lighter,
39:04
a
39:04
little
39:04
faster.
39:05
Salt.
39:05
Salt.
39:06
Inspired
39:07
Fuji
39:07
alkaline
39:08
guides.
39:09
Spare
39:10
tip.
39:11
Yeah,
39:12
lot,
39:13
lot
39:13
of
39:13
fun
39:14
for
39:15
your
39:15
snook,
39:16
red
39:17
fish,
39:18
sea
39:18
trout,
39:19
things
39:19
like
39:19
that.
39:22
And
39:22
we
39:22
have
39:22
another
39:23
8
39:23
weight
39:23
is
39:24
a
39:24
8
39:25
foot
39:25
8
39:25
weight
39:25
power
39:26
glass
39:26
which
39:26
is
39:26
a
39:27
fiberglass
39:27
rod.
39:29
Super
39:30
fun
39:30
carp
39:30
rod.
39:31
It's
39:32
got
39:32
a
39:32
lot
39:32
of
39:32
power.
39:34
Started
39:34
that
39:34
rod
39:35
out
39:35
as
39:35
a
39:35
nine
39:35
footer
39:36
and
39:36
didn't
39:37
like
39:37
it,
39:38
but
39:38
then
39:39
got
39:39
it
39:39
down.
39:40
Once
39:40
we
39:40
got
39:40
it
39:40
down
39:41
to
39:41
the
39:41
eight
39:41
foot
39:41
range,
39:42
it
39:43
was
39:43
punching
39:43
through
39:43
some
39:44
wind.
39:44
I
39:44
did
39:44
a
39:44
lot
39:44
of
39:45
testing
39:45
down
39:45
in
39:45
Texas
39:46
for
39:46
that
39:47
red
39:48
fishing
39:49
and
39:50
it
39:50
just
39:50
turned
39:50
into
39:51
a
39:51
really
39:51
fun
39:51
rod.
39:52
I,
39:52
I
39:52
kind
39:52
of,
39:53
I
39:54
knew
39:54
I
39:54
wanted
39:54
to
39:54
add
39:55
at
39:55
least
39:55
one
39:55
fiberglass
39:56
rod
39:56
in
39:57
the
39:57
lineup
39:58
and
39:58
it
39:58
was,
39:59
I
39:59
didn't
39:59
want
40:00
to
40:00
do
40:00
a
40:00
three
40:00
weight
40:00
or
40:01
anything
40:01
real
40:01
light
40:01
because
40:02
there's
40:02
a
40:02
ton
40:02
of
40:02
people
40:02
doing
40:03
them.
40:03
And
40:04
I
40:04
was
40:04
just
40:04
kind
40:05
of,
40:05
I
40:05
was
40:05
kind
40:05
of
40:06
sold
40:06
on
40:06
the
40:06
eight
40:06
weight
40:07
because
40:07
of
40:07
its
40:07
versatility.
40:08
I
40:08
feel
40:08
like
40:08
you
40:08
can
40:09
take
40:09
that
40:09
thing,
40:12
you
40:12
can
40:13
take
40:13
that
40:13
thing
40:13
to
40:13
a
40:14
little
40:14
creek
40:14
and
40:14
catch
40:15
some
40:15
pan
40:15
fish
40:15
and
40:15
it's
40:16
still
40:16
fun
40:17
or
40:17
you
40:17
could
40:18
really,
40:18
you
40:18
know,
40:19
go
40:19
catch
40:19
some
40:19
bigger
40:20
fish
40:20
and
40:20
it's
40:21
forgiving
40:21
enough
40:21
to,
40:22
to,
40:22
you
40:23
know,
40:23
you
40:23
know,
40:23
I've
40:24
got
40:24
customers
40:24
that
40:25
have
40:25
caught
40:25
30
40:25
inch,
40:26
you
40:26
know,
40:26
pike
40:26
and
40:26
muskie
40:27
on
40:27
it
40:27
up
40:27
north.
40:28
So
40:28
it's
40:29
got
40:29
a
40:29
good
40:29
range.
40:30
As
40:31
for
40:31
a
40:31
glass
40:31
rod
40:33
and
40:33
then
40:34
going
40:34
back
40:34
to
40:34
the
40:34
graphite
40:35
stuff,
40:35
We've
40:36
got
40:36
a
40:36
9
40:37
foot
40:37
9
40:37
weight
40:39
strip
40:39
set
40:40
which
40:41
also
40:41
built
40:42
on
40:42
that
40:42
faster
40:43
taper
40:43
like
40:43
the
40:44
6
40:45
and
40:45
the
40:45
8.
40:47
And
40:47
then
40:47
we've
40:47
got
40:47
our
40:48
river
40:48
Wolf
40:48
which
40:49
is
40:49
our
40:49
9
40:49
foot
40:49
11
40:50
muskie
40:50
stick
40:51
that
40:51
comes
40:51
in
40:52
two
40:52
colors
40:52
like
40:52
a
40:53
gold
40:53
metallic
40:54
and
40:54
orange
40:55
or
40:55
an
40:55
OD
40:56
green
40:56
matte
40:56
and
40:57
black.
40:59
And
40:59
that's
40:59
going
40:59
to
41:00
have
41:00
that,
41:00
that
41:01
medium
41:02
deep
41:03
flex
41:03
for
41:03
casting
41:04
big,
41:05
bigger,
41:05
heavier
41:05
flies.
41:06
And
41:06
just
41:07
a
41:07
rod
41:07
that's
41:08
really
41:08
comfortable
41:09
to
41:09
cast
41:09
like
41:09
day
41:09
in
41:10
and
41:10
day
41:10
out
41:10
for
41:10
like
41:11
four
41:12
days
41:12
at
41:12
a
41:12
time,
41:12
you
41:13
know.
41:13
And
41:13
then
41:14
we've
41:14
got
41:15
our
41:15
9
41:16
foot
41:17
12
41:17
weight
41:18
which
41:18
is
41:18
the
41:19
double
41:19
hall,
41:19
which
41:20
is
41:20
a
41:20
little
41:20
bit
41:20
lighter
41:21
and
41:21
a
41:21
little
41:21
bit
41:22
faster
41:22
than
41:22
our
41:22
11.
41:24
A
41:25
lot
41:25
of
41:25
people
41:25
use
41:25
it
41:25
for
41:26
musky
41:26
but
41:26
it's
41:27
a
41:27
great
41:27
rod
41:27
to
41:28
go
41:28
take
41:28
to
41:28
the
41:28
salt.
41:28
If
41:29
you're,
41:29
if
41:29
you're
41:30
a
41:30
dude
41:30
that
41:30
primarily
41:31
fishes
41:31
freshwater
41:32
and
41:32
you
41:32
want
41:32
to
41:32
do
41:33
a
41:33
couple
41:33
tarpon
41:33
trips
41:34
a
41:34
year
41:34
or
41:34
whatever.
41:35
One
41:35
a
41:35
year.
41:35
It's,
41:36
it's
41:36
a
41:36
great
41:36
option
41:37
for
41:37
that
41:37
and
41:37
for
41:38
you
41:38
know,
41:38
Amber
41:39
Jackson,
41:39
bigger
41:40
fish
41:40
and
41:40
assault.
41:42
So
41:42
yeah,
41:42
that's,
41:42
that's
41:43
our
41:43
current
41:43
lineup
41:45
and
41:45
we're
41:46
working
41:46
on
41:46
some
41:46
other
41:47
stuff
41:47
too.
41:47
So.
41:48
Yeah.
41:48
Can
41:49
you
41:49
share
41:49
tease
41:50
any
41:50
details
41:51
of
41:51
the
41:51
other
41:51
stuff?
41:52
Yeah.
41:52
So
41:54
been
41:54
working
41:54
on
41:55
a
41:55
shorter
41:55
rod.
41:56
Working
41:56
on
41:56
a.
41:57
A
41:57
seven
41:58
foot
41:59
probably.
42:00
I
42:00
was
42:00
kind
42:00
of
42:00
up
42:00
in
42:01
the
42:01
air
42:01
between
42:01
a
42:01
771
42:02
and
42:03
a
42:03
73
42:03
trying
42:04
to
42:04
figure
42:04
out
42:04
what
42:04
I
42:04
want.
42:05
I
42:05
think
42:05
it's
42:05
going
42:05
to
42:06
end
42:06
up
42:06
being
42:06
a
42:06
7
42:06
foot
42:07
2
42:07
weight
42:07
called
42:08
the
42:08
pocket
42:08
knife.
42:10
And
42:10
that's,
42:11
that's
42:11
just
42:12
come
42:12
out
42:12
of.
42:12
We've
42:12
had
42:13
a
42:13
lot
42:13
of
42:13
requests
42:13
for
42:13
a
42:14
shorter
42:14
rod
42:14
especially
42:15
in
42:15
the
42:16
Appalachians
42:16
and
42:17
the
42:17
brook
42:17
trout
42:17
guys.
42:18
So
42:19
going
42:19
to
42:19
try
42:19
to
42:19
create
42:20
something.
42:21
It's,
42:21
it's,
42:21
it's
42:22
in
42:22
process
42:24
and
42:24
just
42:24
trying
42:25
to
42:25
refine
42:25
it
42:25
a
42:25
little
42:25
bit
42:26
and
42:26
get
42:27
it.
42:27
Most
42:28
of
42:28
our
42:28
rods
42:28
go
42:29
through
42:29
about
42:29
a
42:29
year
42:30
of
42:31
testing
42:32
and
42:32
just
42:34
prototyping
42:34
before,
42:35
before
42:35
they
42:36
land
42:36
on
42:36
the
42:36
website
42:37
for
42:37
the
42:37
general
42:38
public.
42:39
And
42:39
then
42:40
the
42:40
other
42:41
really
42:41
cool
42:41
exciting
42:42
thing
42:43
I'm
42:44
working
42:44
on,
42:45
I'm
42:46
working
42:46
on
42:46
our
42:46
first
42:47
lineup
42:48
of
42:48
mid
42:49
priced
42:49
rods.
42:51
Gonna
42:51
be
42:51
called
42:51
the
42:52
Destination
42:52
series.
42:54
Gonna
42:54
built.
42:54
Be
42:55
built
42:55
with
42:55
a
42:55
little
42:55
bit
42:55
higher
42:56
end.
42:56
Components
42:58
haven't
42:58
landed
42:58
on
42:59
the
42:59
exact
42:59
guides
42:59
yet.
43:01
They're
43:01
either
43:01
gonna
43:02
be
43:02
like
43:02
sea
43:03
guides
43:03
or,
43:05
or
43:06
recoil
43:06
guides.
43:08
It's
43:08
the
43:09
jury's
43:09
still
43:09
out
43:09
on
43:09
that.
43:10
I'm
43:10
testing
43:10
both.
43:11
There's
43:11
some
43:12
pros
43:12
and
43:12
cons
43:12
to
43:12
both
43:13
of
43:13
them
43:13
but
43:13
the
43:14
modulus
43:14
is
43:14
gonna
43:14
be
43:15
a
43:15
little
43:15
lighter,
43:15
a
43:15
little
43:16
faster.
43:16
The
43:17
reel
43:17
seat's
43:17
gonna
43:18
be
43:18
nicer,
43:18
the
43:18
cork's
43:18
gonna
43:19
be
43:19
nicer.
43:21
Price
43:21
point
43:21
for
43:22
it.
43:22
We're
43:23
shooting
43:23
for
43:23
like
43:23
a
43:24
$459
43:26
price
43:26
point
43:26
for
43:26
the
43:27
Destination
43:27
series.
43:28
And
43:29
it's
43:29
going
43:29
to
43:29
be
43:30
the
43:30
first
43:31
series
43:32
that
43:32
we
43:32
are
43:32
going
43:33
to
43:33
offer
43:33
in
43:35
different
43:36
sizes.
43:36
So
43:36
you'll
43:37
be
43:37
able
43:37
to,
43:37
you'll,
43:37
you'll
43:38
be
43:38
able
43:38
to
43:38
go
43:39
on
43:39
the
43:39
website
43:39
and
43:40
order
43:40
anything
43:40
from
43:41
a
43:41
7
43:41
up
43:41
through
43:42
like
43:42
a
43:42
12
43:42
or
43:42
a
43:43
14
43:43
weight.
43:43
So
43:44
up
43:44
until
43:44
now
43:45
our
43:45
rods
43:46
have
43:46
all
43:46
been
43:46
just
43:47
whatever
43:47
that
43:47
model
43:48
is
43:48
is.
43:48
It's,
43:49
that's,
43:49
that's
43:50
that
43:50
color
43:50
and
43:50
that's
43:51
the
43:51
size.
43:51
So
43:52
this
43:52
will
43:52
be
43:52
the
43:52
first
43:53
like
43:53
step
43:54
into
43:54
our
43:54
like
43:55
mid
43:55
priced
43:56
range.
43:57
And
43:57
I've
43:58
also
43:58
kind
43:58
of.
44:00
My
44:00
goal
44:01
is
44:01
to
44:01
be
44:02
able
44:02
to
44:02
create
44:03
a
44:03
price
44:03
point
44:04
around
44:04
the
44:04
$459
44:05
range
44:06
with
44:07
a
44:07
lot
44:07
of
44:07
performance.
44:09
And
44:09
ultimately
44:10
what
44:10
I
44:10
want
44:10
to
44:11
do
44:11
is
44:11
be
44:11
able
44:11
to.
44:12
I
44:12
want
44:12
people
44:12
to
44:13
be
44:13
able
44:13
to
44:13
go
44:13
on
44:13
our
44:13
website
44:14
and
44:14
buy
44:14
a
44:14
three
44:14
pack
44:15
of
44:16
rods
44:16
for
44:16
what
44:17
the
44:17
cost
44:17
of
44:17
like
44:18
one
44:18
heliognose
44:20
cost.
44:21
So
44:21
people
44:22
are
44:22
trying
44:22
to
44:22
go
44:22
on
44:22
a
44:22
trip
44:23
to,
44:23
you
44:23
know,
44:23
Belize.
44:24
They
44:24
want
44:25
to
44:25
knock
44:25
out
44:25
the
44:26
slam.
44:28
They
44:28
can
44:28
go,
44:30
you
44:30
know,
44:30
I'm
44:30
working
44:31
on
44:31
some
44:31
packaging
44:32
designs
44:33
so
44:33
that
44:33
they
44:33
could,
44:33
you
44:34
know,
44:34
buy
44:35
an
44:35
8,
44:35
10
44:35
12,
44:36
3
44:36
pack
44:37
that
44:37
comes
44:37
in
44:37
a
44:38
case.
44:39
They
44:39
can
44:39
just
44:39
buy
44:39
all
44:40
that
44:40
for
44:40
1200
44:40
bucks,
44:41
jump
44:41
on
44:41
a
44:42
plane
44:42
and
44:42
be
44:42
set,
44:43
take
44:43
some
44:43
reels
44:44
with
44:44
them,
44:44
you
44:44
know.
44:44
So
44:45
that's
44:45
kind
44:45
of
44:46
one
44:46
of
44:46
the
44:47
more
44:47
exciting
44:47
projects
44:48
I've
44:48
been
44:49
working
44:49
on.
44:50
And
44:50
I've
44:50
got
44:50
a
44:50
lot
44:50
of
44:50
hours
44:51
in
44:51
on
44:51
the
44:51
12
44:52
weight
44:52
that
44:52
I've
44:53
been
44:53
testing.
44:53
And
44:54
everyone
44:55
that's
44:55
casted
44:55
it's
44:56
really
44:56
loved
44:56
it.
44:57
So
44:58
I'm
44:58
excited
44:58
to
44:58
get
44:59
those
44:59
out
44:59
there.
45:00
Yeah.
45:00
So
45:00
when
45:00
should
45:01
folks
45:01
expect
45:01
to
45:01
see
45:01
those
45:02
on
45:02
the
45:02
website?
45:03
Man,
45:05
I
45:05
don't
45:05
have
45:05
a.
45:05
I
45:06
don't
45:06
have
45:06
an
45:06
exact
45:06
data
45:07
on
45:07
it
45:07
yet.
45:08
It's
45:08
a
45:08
big
45:09
ask
45:09
from
45:09
us
45:10
financially
45:11
to,
45:12
to,
45:12
to
45:13
get
45:13
that
45:13
inventory
45:14
in.
45:15
That's
45:15
the
45:15
biggest
45:15
hurdle
45:16
for
45:16
us
45:16
right
45:16
now.
45:17
The,
45:17
the
45:17
rod
45:18
development
45:18
is
45:18
farther
45:19
ahead
45:19
than,
45:21
you
45:21
know,
45:22
we
45:22
just
45:22
gotta
45:22
be
45:23
careful.
45:24
Most
45:25
of
45:25
em,
45:25
it's
45:25
kind
45:25
of
45:25
easy.
45:26
Cause
45:26
we
45:26
can
45:26
bring
45:27
in,
45:27
you
45:27
know,
45:28
a
45:28
couple
45:28
hundred
45:28
of
45:29
a
45:29
nine
45:29
weight
45:29
or
45:29
something.
45:30
But
45:30
when
45:30
you're
45:31
bringing
45:31
in
45:31
a
45:31
couple
45:32
hundred
45:32
of
45:32
seven,
45:33
seven
45:33
through
45:34
12,
45:34
like
45:35
you're
45:35
talking
45:35
a
45:35
pretty
45:36
big
45:36
chunk.
45:36
So
45:38
we're
45:38
just
45:38
trying
45:38
to
45:39
see,
45:40
you
45:40
know,
45:40
test
45:40
the
45:40
waters.
45:41
We're
45:41
working
45:41
on
45:42
some
45:42
other
45:42
marketing
45:42
stuff
45:43
to
45:43
try
45:43
to
45:43
get
45:43
in
45:44
a
45:44
few
45:44
more
45:44
shops
45:45
and
45:45
things
45:45
like
45:45
that
45:45
and
45:46
really
45:47
get
45:48
some
45:48
samples
45:48
in
45:48
people's
45:49
hands
45:49
so
45:49
that
45:50
we
45:50
kind
45:50
of
45:50
have
45:51
a
45:51
little
45:51
bit
45:51
more
45:52
product
45:52
moving
45:53
across
45:54
the
45:54
country
45:54
versus
45:55
just
45:55
in
45:55
the
45:55
eastern
45:56
side
45:56
where
45:56
we're
45:57
at
45:57
now,
45:58
and
45:59
make
45:59
us
45:59
feel
45:59
a
46:00
little
46:00
bit
46:00
more
46:00
comfortable
46:01
about
46:01
making
46:01
that
46:02
last
46:02
push,
46:02
you
46:03
know.
46:03
So
46:04
yeah,
46:04
I
46:04
got
46:05
it.
46:05
Cause
46:05
it'll,
46:05
it'll
46:05
probably
46:06
more
46:06
than
46:06
double
46:06
your
46:07
inventory
46:07
to,
46:08
to
46:08
make
46:08
that
46:08
purchase,
46:09
right?
46:10
Yeah,
46:10
yeah,
46:10
for
46:11
sure.
46:11
And
46:12
honestly,
46:13
we
46:13
were
46:13
kind
46:13
of,
46:14
you
46:14
know,
46:15
kind
46:15
of
46:15
waiting
46:16
to
46:16
see
46:16
what
46:16
the
46:16
tariff
46:16
thing
46:17
did
46:17
too.
46:17
You
46:17
know,
46:18
you
46:18
don't
46:18
want
46:18
to
46:18
go
46:19
drop
46:20
or
46:20
order
46:20
for
46:21
1400
46:21
rods
46:22
or
46:22
you
46:23
know,
46:23
2000
46:24
rods
46:26
right
46:26
away.
46:26
And
46:27
we,
46:27
we
46:27
got
46:27
a
46:28
decent
46:28
shipment
46:28
of
46:29
rods
46:29
in
46:29
to
46:29
refill
46:30
some
46:30
inventory
46:30
that
46:30
we
46:31
were
46:31
sold
46:31
out
46:31
on
46:32
a
46:32
few
46:32
models,
46:34
you
46:34
know,
46:35
about
46:35
a
46:35
month
46:35
and
46:35
a
46:36
half
46:36
ago
46:36
and
46:37
pleasantly
46:38
Surprised
46:38
that
46:38
the
46:38
tariffs
46:39
didn't
46:39
really
46:39
affect
46:40
us
46:40
as
46:40
bad.
46:40
So
46:41
kind
46:41
of
46:41
refocused
46:42
and,
46:42
like,
46:42
all
46:42
right,
46:43
well,
46:43
maybe
46:43
we
46:43
can
46:43
make
46:43
this
46:44
happen.
46:44
So
46:45
the
46:45
biggest
46:46
thing
46:46
for
46:46
me
46:46
is,
46:46
like,
46:48
just
46:48
making
46:48
sure
46:50
the
46:50
testing's
46:51
exactly
46:52
the
46:52
way
46:52
we
46:52
want
46:52
it.
46:53
So
46:53
I'm
46:53
going
46:53
to
46:53
get
46:53
some
46:54
final
46:54
samples
46:55
back
46:55
from
46:55
the
46:56
R
46:56
D
46:56
facility
46:58
and
46:58
hopefully
46:59
be
46:59
able
46:59
to
46:59
show
46:59
some
46:59
of
47:00
those
47:00
off
47:00
during
47:01
show
47:01
season.
47:02
And
47:03
what
47:03
I'd
47:03
really
47:03
like
47:04
to
47:04
do
47:04
is
47:04
push
47:04
some
47:04
orders
47:05
through
47:05
show
47:05
season
47:06
so
47:06
they
47:06
can,
47:06
you
47:07
know,
47:07
show
47:07
up
47:07
in
47:07
March
47:08
or
47:08
April
47:08
and
47:09
hit
47:09
the
47:09
shelves.
47:10
So,
47:11
yeah,
47:11
absolutely.
47:12
You
47:12
know,
47:12
folks
47:13
may
47:13
not
47:13
know
47:13
that
47:13
you
47:13
are
47:14
also
47:14
the
47:14
founder
47:14
of
47:15
the
47:15
Kentucky
47:15
River
47:15
Muskie
47:16
Classic,
47:16
and
47:17
just
47:17
kind
47:17
of
47:17
curious,
47:18
you
47:18
know,
47:18
when
47:18
did
47:18
you
47:18
get
47:18
the
47:19
fever
47:19
to
47:19
chase
47:19
muskie
47:20
on
47:20
the
47:20
fly?
47:22
Oh,
47:22
man,
47:23
like,
47:23
2015.
47:25
I
47:25
think
47:25
I
47:26
started
47:27
2015
47:28
late,
47:29
like,
47:30
that
47:30
fall,
47:30
and
47:30
then
47:31
it's
47:31
kind
47:31
of
47:31
just.
47:32
Yeah,
47:32
it's
47:32
been
47:32
10
47:32
years
47:33
now.
47:33
So
47:35
I'm,
47:36
you
47:36
know,
47:37
I
47:37
think
47:38
for
47:39
me,
47:39
it's
47:39
a
47:39
heritage
47:40
thing.
47:40
They're
47:41
native
47:41
to
47:41
Kentucky.
47:44
I
47:46
just
47:46
got
47:46
really
47:46
interested.
47:47
Anything
47:47
that's
47:48
super
47:48
challenging
47:49
and
47:49
is,
47:49
like,
47:50
something
47:50
that
47:50
most
47:51
people
47:51
just
47:51
would
47:51
think
47:51
is
47:52
dumb
47:52
and
47:52
pointless,
47:53
those
47:53
are
47:53
the
47:54
things
47:54
that
47:54
I
47:54
get
47:54
attached
47:55
to
47:55
somehow.
47:57
And
47:57
musky
47:58
fishing
47:58
was
47:58
one
47:58
of
47:58
those
47:58
things.
47:59
You
47:59
know,
48:00
it
48:01
was
48:01
a
48:01
challenge.
48:01
It
48:02
was,
48:04
you
48:05
know,
48:05
you
48:05
get
48:05
your
48:05
highs
48:06
and
48:06
your
48:06
lows.
48:06
And
48:08
once
48:08
I
48:08
started
48:10
catching
48:10
a
48:10
few
48:10
fish,
48:11
floating
48:12
some
48:12
beautiful
48:13
rivers
48:14
in.
48:14
In
48:14
my
48:15
home
48:15
state
48:15
and
48:17
learned
48:17
about
48:18
all
48:18
the
48:18
history
48:19
of
48:19
those
48:19
rivers
48:19
with
48:20
the
48:20
Indians
48:20
and,
48:21
you
48:21
know,
48:21
the
48:22
hunting
48:22
and
48:23
the.
48:23
The
48:23
backstories
48:24
of
48:25
all
48:25
these,
48:25
you
48:26
know,
48:26
these
48:27
rivers
48:27
and
48:27
creeks,
48:27
it
48:28
just,
48:28
you
48:28
know,
48:29
it
48:29
kind
48:29
of
48:29
stuck
48:29
with
48:30
me.
48:30
And
48:30
then
48:32
the
48:32
community
48:33
behind
48:33
it,
48:33
too,
48:34
was
48:34
just
48:34
so.
48:35
So
48:35
cool.
48:36
And.
48:37
Yeah,
48:38
just.
48:38
Yeah.
48:39
Just
48:39
was
48:39
kind
48:40
of
48:40
drawn
48:40
to
48:40
it.
48:40
And
48:40
I've
48:40
met
48:41
a
48:41
lot
48:41
of
48:41
awesome
48:41
folks
48:42
along
48:42
the
48:42
way
48:45
because
48:45
of
48:45
the
48:45
musky
48:46
fishing
48:46
thing.
48:46
I
48:47
mean,
48:48
I
48:48
would
48:48
say,
48:48
if
48:49
anything,
48:51
it's.
48:51
It's
48:52
been
48:52
one
48:53
of
48:53
the
48:53
harder
48:53
hurdles
48:54
for
48:54
us
48:54
to.
48:54
To.
48:55
To
48:56
cover
48:57
or.
48:57
Or
48:57
get
48:58
away
48:58
from.
48:58
Like,
48:59
if
48:59
all
49:00
I
49:00
had
49:00
to
49:00
do
49:00
was
49:00
sell
49:00
musky
49:01
rods,
49:01
I'd
49:01
be
49:01
fine.
49:02
Um,
49:03
just
49:03
trying
49:03
to
49:03
let
49:03
people
49:04
know
49:05
we
49:05
saw
49:05
other
49:05
odds,
49:06
you
49:06
know,
49:06
So
49:07
I
49:07
was
49:07
so
49:07
heavily
49:08
focused
49:08
in
49:08
the
49:09
muskie
49:09
community
49:10
from
49:10
the
49:10
beginning,
49:12
just
49:13
trying
49:13
to
49:13
get
49:13
our
49:13
name
49:13
out
49:14
there
49:14
to
49:14
the
49:14
world,
49:14
you
49:15
know?
49:16
Yeah.
49:16
Very
49:17
neat.
49:17
So
49:17
tell
49:17
us
49:17
a
49:18
little
49:18
bit
49:18
more
49:18
about
49:18
the
49:18
event.
49:20
Yeah.
49:20
So
49:21
last
49:21
weekend
49:22
In
49:23
February
49:25
started
49:25
two
49:25
years
49:26
ago,
49:26
we
49:27
had
49:27
21
49:28
teams,
49:28
I
49:29
believe
49:29
the
49:29
first
49:29
year.
49:31
The
49:31
second
49:32
year,
49:32
we
49:32
had
49:33
40
49:33
teams.
49:33
Two
49:34
teams
49:35
didn't
49:36
show,
49:36
so
49:36
we
49:36
ended
49:37
up
49:37
with
49:37
38
49:37
total.
49:38
Teams
49:38
and
49:40
112
49:42
anglers.
49:43
So
49:44
huge,
49:45
huge
49:46
growth.
49:46
And
49:46
within
49:47
the
49:47
first
49:47
year,
49:49
the.
49:49
This
49:49
second
49:50
year,
49:50
we
49:50
had
49:50
38
49:51
teams,
49:51
112
49:52
anglers,
49:53
and
49:53
38
49:54
fish
49:54
got
49:54
boated.
49:55
So
49:58
really,
49:58
really
49:58
good
49:59
outcome
49:59
for
50:00
the
50:00
tournament.
50:02
Most
50:02
folks
50:03
didn't
50:03
even
50:03
think
50:03
we
50:03
were
50:04
going
50:04
to
50:04
be
50:04
able
50:04
to
50:05
put
50:05
the
50:06
tournament
50:06
on
50:06
because
50:07
three
50:08
weeks
50:08
before
50:08
the
50:09
tournament,
50:09
we
50:09
had
50:10
like,
50:10
historic,
50:11
like,
50:11
catastrophic
50:12
flooding
50:13
that
50:14
affected
50:14
southern
50:15
Kentucky.
50:16
And
50:17
a
50:17
lot
50:17
of
50:17
the
50:17
waters
50:18
that
50:18
we
50:18
were
50:18
fishing,
50:20
even
50:20
during
50:20
the
50:20
tournament,
50:22
about
50:22
2/3
50:23
of
50:23
the
50:23
fishable
50:24
water
50:25
was
50:26
just
50:26
not
50:26
fishable
50:27
because
50:27
the
50:27
rivers
50:28
were
50:28
just
50:28
getting
50:29
blown
50:29
out
50:29
because
50:30
all
50:30
the
50:30
reservoirs
50:31
above
50:31
them
50:31
were
50:31
just
50:32
full.
50:32
So
50:33
the
50:33
dams
50:33
were
50:33
just
50:34
wide
50:34
open,
50:34
you
50:34
know,
50:35
so
50:37
to
50:37
have
50:37
that
50:37
good
50:37
of
50:38
a
50:38
turnout,
50:40
everyone
50:40
had
50:40
a
50:40
blast.
50:41
Everyone
50:42
was
50:42
catching
50:42
fish
50:43
and
50:43
seeing
50:43
fish.
50:45
You
50:46
know,
50:46
it
50:47
was
50:47
cool
50:47
to
50:47
see.
50:47
And
50:48
we're
50:48
going
50:48
to
50:48
continue
50:48
to
50:49
grow
50:49
it
50:49
every
50:50
year
50:50
and
50:50
just
50:51
make
50:51
it
50:51
better
50:51
and
50:53
try
50:53
to
50:54
raise
50:54
as
50:54
much
50:54
money
50:55
for
50:55
the
50:55
Muskies
50:55
Inc.
50:56
Chapter,
50:57
chapter
50:57
52,
50:58
the
50:58
Daniel
50:58
Boone
50:59
Chapter.
51:01
We're,
51:03
you
51:03
know,
51:03
it's.
51:05
It
51:05
was
51:06
an
51:06
idea,
51:06
and
51:07
we're
51:07
trying
51:07
to
51:08
figure
51:08
out
51:08
ways
51:08
to
51:09
help
51:09
them
51:09
raise
51:10
some
51:10
more
51:10
money.
51:12
And
51:12
the
51:12
growth
51:13
of
51:13
the.
51:13
The
51:14
growth
51:14
of
51:14
the
51:14
tournament
51:15
has
51:15
actually
51:16
got
51:16
us
51:16
a
51:17
seat
51:17
at
51:17
the
51:17
table
51:18
with
51:18
some
51:18
of
51:19
the
51:19
fisheries
51:20
biologists
51:20
and
51:21
people
51:21
that
51:22
we
51:22
actually
51:22
need
51:22
to
51:23
be
51:23
talking
51:23
with
51:23
to
51:24
make
51:24
some
51:24
changes
51:25
because
51:25
we've
51:25
had
51:25
some
51:26
really
51:26
bad
51:26
stocking
51:27
years.
51:28
You
51:29
know,
51:29
Covid
51:29
didn't
51:30
help,
51:30
and
51:30
then
51:31
it
51:31
kind
51:31
of
51:31
just
51:33
snowballed
51:33
from
51:34
there.
51:35
So
51:35
we're
51:35
trying
51:35
to.
51:37
Trying
51:37
to
51:38
make
51:38
some
51:38
changes.
51:39
We've
51:40
got
51:40
the
51:41
hatchery
51:42
there
51:42
at
51:42
the
51:42
bottom
51:42
of
51:43
cave.
51:43
Ron
51:44
has
51:44
had
51:44
a
51:44
lot
51:44
of
51:45
water
51:45
problems
51:45
the
51:46
last
51:46
few
51:46
years
51:48
just
51:48
with
51:49
algae
51:50
blooms
51:50
and
51:50
things
51:51
like
51:51
that.
51:51
So
51:51
the,
51:52
the
51:53
fish
51:54
health
51:54
has
51:54
been
51:55
bad,
51:55
and
51:56
they're.
51:56
They're
51:57
going
51:57
to
51:57
change
51:57
some
51:57
of
51:58
that
51:58
up
51:59
and
51:59
grow
51:59
some
51:59
muskies
52:00
in
52:00
a
52:00
different
52:01
facility
52:01
that
52:01
has
52:01
a
52:02
little
52:02
bit
52:02
better
52:02
water
52:03
situation
52:05
to
52:05
help
52:05
us
52:05
with
52:06
our
52:06
stocking.
52:06
So,
52:07
you
52:08
know,
52:08
none
52:08
of
52:08
that
52:08
would
52:08
have
52:09
been
52:09
possible
52:09
without
52:11
multiple
52:11
tourism
52:12
boards
52:13
noticing
52:14
how
52:14
many
52:14
people
52:14
were
52:15
coming
52:15
through
52:15
their
52:15
city
52:16
and
52:16
renting
52:16
airbnbs
52:17
and
52:17
buying
52:18
fuel
52:18
and
52:19
hauling
52:19
their
52:20
rafts
52:20
and
52:21
jet
52:21
boats
52:21
and
52:22
stuff.
52:22
Like,
52:22
people
52:23
immediately
52:24
understood,
52:24
like,
52:24
man,
52:25
there's
52:25
a
52:25
lot
52:25
of
52:25
people
52:26
coming
52:26
for
52:26
this,
52:26
you
52:27
know,
52:27
so
52:28
it
52:28
was.
52:29
It's
52:29
been
52:29
a
52:30
huge,
52:30
huge
52:30
help.
52:31
And
52:31
we're
52:31
only
52:31
going
52:31
to
52:32
continue
52:32
to
52:32
hopefully
52:33
raise
52:33
more
52:34
and
52:34
more
52:34
money
52:34
to,
52:36
you
52:36
know,
52:36
keep
52:36
our
52:37
conservation
52:37
good
52:37
for
52:38
the
52:38
muskies.
52:39
Very,
52:39
very
52:39
neat.
52:40
And
52:40
so
52:40
folks
52:40
wanted
52:41
to
52:41
get
52:41
more
52:41
information
52:42
for
52:42
February
52:42
of
52:43
2026.
52:43
Where
52:44
should
52:44
they
52:44
go?
52:45
You
52:45
can
52:46
go
52:46
to
52:46
The
52:46
Kentucky
52:47
River
52:47
Muskie
52:48
Classic.
52:49
Instagram
52:49
or
52:50
Facebook.
52:51
We
52:51
don't
52:51
currently
52:52
have
52:52
a
52:52
website
52:54
but
52:54
it's
52:55
managed
52:55
all
52:56
through
52:56
social
52:56
media.
52:57
It's
52:57
been.
52:58
Been
52:58
great.
52:59
Easy
53:00
to
53:00
get
53:00
a
53:00
hold
53:00
of
53:00
us.
53:01
Super
53:02
small
53:02
group.
53:03
So
53:03
anybody
53:04
needs
53:04
any
53:04
information,
53:06
you
53:06
know,
53:06
obviously
53:07
the
53:07
Instagram
53:08
or,
53:08
or
53:09
Facebook
53:10
page
53:10
and
53:10
then
53:11
obviously
53:12
you
53:12
can
53:12
reach
53:12
out
53:12
to
53:12
the
53:12
Wolf
53:13
Rod
53:13
co
53:13
page
53:14
too
53:14
and
53:14
we
53:14
can
53:14
point
53:14
you
53:15
in
53:15
the
53:15
right
53:15
direction
53:16
on
53:16
that.
53:17
It's
53:17
just,
53:19
yeah,
53:19
I
53:20
mean
53:20
it's
53:20
just
53:20
a
53:20
really
53:21
cool,
53:22
it's
53:22
such
53:22
a
53:22
cool
53:23
river
53:23
system
53:24
with
53:25
you
53:25
know,
53:25
I
53:26
was
53:26
super,
53:28
I
53:28
was
53:29
super
53:29
hard
53:30
on
53:30
myself.
53:31
You
53:31
know,
53:32
the
53:32
musky
53:32
zinc
53:32
guys
53:33
were
53:33
wanting
53:33
to
53:33
do
53:34
it
53:34
earlier
53:35
and
53:35
you
53:36
know,
53:36
I
53:36
was
53:36
super
53:36
worried
53:37
about,
53:37
you
53:37
know,
53:39
affecting
53:39
the
53:40
fishery
53:41
and
53:41
then
53:41
I,
53:42
we
53:42
kind
53:42
of
53:42
sat
53:43
down
53:43
and
53:43
we're
53:43
just
53:43
like,
53:44
man,
53:44
there's
53:44
like
53:44
over
53:45
500
53:45
miles
53:46
of
53:46
fishable
53:46
water.
53:47
Like
53:48
it's
53:49
going
53:49
to
53:49
be
53:50
like
53:51
the
53:51
fisheries
53:51
not
53:52
going
53:52
to
53:52
be
53:52
bothered
53:53
by,
53:53
you
53:53
know,
53:54
40,
53:54
40
53:55
boats
53:55
showing
53:55
up
53:56
to
53:56
fish
53:56
for
53:57
two
53:57
days,
53:57
you
53:57
know,
53:58
so.
53:59
And
53:59
it,
54:00
it's
54:00
been
54:00
great.
54:01
It's,
54:01
it
54:01
really
54:01
has
54:02
been
54:02
great.
54:02
It's,
54:02
it's
54:03
a
54:03
beautiful
54:03
river
54:04
system.
54:04
The
54:04
Kentucky
54:05
river
54:06
drainage
54:06
is,
54:07
you
54:08
know,
54:08
it's,
54:08
it's
54:08
huge.
54:09
There's
54:09
so
54:09
many
54:10
tribs.
54:10
There's
54:11
three
54:11
main
54:11
rivers
54:12
that
54:12
flow
54:12
into
54:13
one
54:13
big
54:13
river
54:13
and
54:13
it's
54:14
just,
54:14
there's
54:14
just
54:15
a
54:15
lot
54:15
of
54:15
water
54:16
and
54:16
it's
54:16
all
54:17
filled
54:17
with
54:17
fish.
54:18
So
54:20
yeah,
54:20
definitely
54:23
look
54:23
for
54:23
sign
54:23
ups
54:24
soon.
54:24
It's
54:24
coming
54:24
around
54:25
the
54:25
corner.
54:25
I
54:25
guess
54:27
we'll,
54:27
we'll
54:27
start,
54:28
we'll
54:28
start
54:28
getting
54:29
registrations
54:30
out
54:30
about
54:30
six
54:30
months
54:31
before
54:31
the
54:31
event
54:32
and
54:33
it's
54:33
going
54:33
to
54:33
fill
54:33
up.
54:34
Filled
54:34
up
54:34
last
54:34
year.
54:35
So
54:35
I'd
54:36
imagine
54:36
it's
54:36
going
54:36
to
54:36
fill
54:36
up
54:37
again
54:37
and
54:37
then
54:38
you
54:39
know,
54:39
one
54:39
of
54:39
the
54:40
favorites
54:40
from
54:40
all
54:41
the
54:41
people
54:41
that
54:41
come
54:41
there,
54:43
Black
54:43
Barn
54:43
Barbecue.
54:44
Local,
54:45
local
54:46
barbecue
54:46
place.
54:47
They
54:47
do
54:47
our,
54:47
they
54:47
do
54:48
our
54:48
food
54:48
every
54:48
year
54:48
and
54:49
they
54:49
do
54:49
it
54:49
upright.
54:50
They
54:50
smoke
54:51
chicken
54:51
wings
54:51
and
54:52
gouda
54:52
Mac
54:52
and
54:52
cheese
54:53
and
54:53
cornbread
54:54
and
54:54
brisket.
54:55
The
54:55
whole
54:55
deal.
54:55
We,
54:55
we
54:56
do
54:56
it
54:56
upright
54:56
Kentucky
54:57
style.
54:57
So
54:59
yeah,
54:59
better
55:00
get
55:00
a
55:00
team,
55:01
get
55:01
a
55:01
team
55:01
figured
55:02
out.
55:02
Three
55:02
man
55:03
teams,
55:03
two
55:03
man
55:04
teams,
55:04
whatever
55:04
you
55:04
want
55:05
to
55:05
do.
55:05
And
55:07
get
55:07
signed
55:07
up
55:07
when
55:07
you
55:08
see
55:08
that
55:08
registration
55:09
pop
55:09
up.
55:09
Because
55:09
it
55:09
won't,
55:10
it
55:10
won't
55:10
take
55:10
long
55:11
to
55:11
fill
55:11
up.
55:11
Yeah.
55:12
Well,
55:12
there
55:12
you
55:12
go.
55:12
And
55:13
so
55:13
where
55:13
can
55:13
folks
55:13
find
55:14
you
55:14
on
55:15
the
55:15
show
55:15
circuit
55:15
in
55:15
20,
55:16
26?
55:17
Oh
55:18
man.
55:19
So
55:19
we're
55:20
going
55:20
to
55:20
try
55:20
to
55:20
hit
55:20
a
55:20
couple
55:21
of
55:21
the
55:21
big
55:21
fly
55:21
fishing
55:22
shows.
55:24
I
55:24
don't
55:24
know
55:24
exactly
55:25
which
55:25
ones
55:25
yet.
55:25
We're
55:26
trying
55:26
to
55:26
be
55:26
in
55:26
Atlanta
55:27
for
55:27
sure.
55:30
Denver's
55:31
another
55:31
one,
55:31
but
55:31
it's.
55:31
I
55:32
think
55:32
it's
55:32
gonna.
55:33
It
55:33
overlapped
55:34
with
55:34
the
55:34
Trout
55:35
Fest
55:35
and
55:36
the
55:36
Guadalupe
55:38
River
55:38
Trout
55:38
Fest
55:39
last
55:39
year
55:40
down
55:41
in
55:41
New
55:41
Braunfels,
55:42
Texas.
55:44
So
55:45
we're
55:45
still
55:45
trying
55:45
to
55:45
figure
55:46
out
55:46
final
55:47
calendar
55:47
on
55:48
that.
55:48
We'll
55:49
definitely
55:49
be
55:49
back
55:49
in
55:50
Toronto
55:50
again
55:50
at
55:51
the
55:51
Sportsman
55:51
show.
55:53
And
55:53
then,
55:56
man,
55:57
I
55:57
don't
55:57
know.
55:57
We
55:57
did
55:58
like
55:58
nine
55:58
shows
55:58
this
55:59
year.
55:59
It
55:59
was
55:59
pretty
55:59
much
56:00
full
56:01
bore
56:01
from
56:01
like
56:03
January
56:04
to
56:04
the
56:05
end
56:05
of
56:05
March.
56:05
So
56:07
we
56:07
did.
56:08
We're
56:08
going
56:08
to
56:08
be
56:08
at
56:09
the
56:09
Virginia
56:09
Fly
56:10
Fishing
56:10
and
56:10
Wine
56:10
Festival.
56:13
That's
56:13
in
56:13
Doswell,
56:14
Virginia.
56:14
That'll
56:15
be
56:15
the
56:15
first
56:15
one
56:16
we're
56:16
at.
56:18
And
56:18
then
56:18
we
56:18
typically,
56:19
we
56:19
always
56:19
do
56:20
the
56:20
Kentucky
56:20
and
56:20
a
56:21
fly
56:21
fishing
56:21
show
56:22
that's
56:23
just,
56:23
that's
56:24
just
56:24
south
56:24
of
56:24
Louisville.
56:25
That's
56:25
more
56:25
of
56:25
a
56:25
local
56:25
show,
56:26
but
56:27
it's,
56:27
it's
56:27
usually
56:28
on
56:28
a
56:28
weekend
56:29
where
56:29
then
56:29
there's
56:29
no
56:29
other
56:29
big
56:30
shows
56:30
going
56:30
on.
56:32
And
56:32
then
56:33
obviously
56:33
Trout
56:34
Fest,
56:35
we
56:35
did
56:36
the
56:36
Midwest
56:36
Fly
56:37
Fishing
56:37
Expo
56:38
up
56:38
in
56:38
Warren,
56:38
Michigan
56:39
last
56:39
year,
56:40
then
56:40
the
56:40
Toronto
56:41
show
56:41
and
56:41
then
56:42
we
56:42
did
56:42
the
56:42
Maggie
56:42
Valley
56:43
Fly
56:43
Fishing
56:43
Festival
56:44
this
56:44
year
56:44
as
56:44
well.
56:44
So
56:45
that's
56:45
our
56:45
second
56:45
year
56:45
doing
56:46
that.
56:46
So
56:47
probably
56:47
honestly
56:48
at
56:48
this
56:48
point
56:49
we're
56:49
going
56:49
to
56:50
try
56:50
to
56:50
stick
56:50
to
56:50
all
56:50
of
56:51
the
56:51
shows
56:51
that
56:51
we
56:51
have
56:52
been
56:52
doing
56:52
and
56:52
then
56:53
add
56:53
on.
56:53
So
56:55
just
56:55
going
56:55
to
56:56
try
56:56
to
56:56
keep
56:56
growing
56:56
it
56:57
and
56:57
letting
56:58
people
56:58
tell
56:59
people
56:59
about
56:59
our
57:00
product,
57:00
man,
57:00
getting
57:00
it
57:01
in
57:01
people's
57:01
hands.
57:03
Hopefully
57:04
we
57:04
can
57:04
get
57:04
a
57:04
decent
57:05
booth
57:05
at
57:05
a
57:05
couple
57:05
of
57:05
these
57:06
bigger
57:06
shows.
57:07
We
57:08
are
57:08
even
57:08
talking
57:08
about
57:09
potentially
57:09
trying
57:09
to
57:09
go
57:10
to
57:10
ICAST
57:10
this
57:11
year
57:11
or
57:11
next
57:11
year.
57:13
Just,
57:15
you
57:15
know,
57:15
get
57:16
in
57:16
front
57:16
of
57:16
more
57:17
of
57:17
the
57:17
industry,
57:17
so
57:18
to
57:18
speak.
57:19
Got
57:20
it.
57:20
And
57:20
before
57:20
I
57:20
let
57:21
you
57:21
go
57:21
tonight,
57:21
Dave,
57:21
is
57:22
there
57:22
anything
57:22
else
57:22
you'd
57:22
like
57:22
to
57:23
share
57:23
with
57:23
our
57:23
listeners?
57:24
Man,
57:25
I
57:25
just,
57:26
you
57:26
know,
57:27
we're,
57:27
we're
57:27
here
57:28
for
57:28
the
57:28
long
57:28
haul.
57:30
I.
57:32
It's,
57:33
it's,
57:33
it's
57:33
a,
57:34
it's
57:34
a
57:34
definitely
57:34
a
57:35
cutthroat
57:35
world.
57:35
You
57:36
know,
57:36
the
57:36
industry
57:36
as
57:37
a
57:37
whole
57:37
is
57:37
just,
57:39
it's,
57:41
it's
57:42
always
57:42
changing.
57:42
But
57:43
I
57:43
think
57:44
that,
57:45
you
57:46
know,
57:46
if
57:46
you
57:46
have
57:46
an
57:47
opportunity
57:47
to,
57:48
to
57:48
get
57:48
a
57:48
hold
57:48
of
57:48
one
57:49
of
57:49
our
57:49
rods,
57:50
test
57:50
it
57:50
out
57:51
and
57:51
I
57:52
think
57:52
you'll
57:52
be
57:52
pleasantly
57:53
surprised
57:53
with,
57:55
with
57:55
its
57:55
performance
57:56
and
57:57
just
57:57
keep
57:58
an
57:58
eye
57:58
on
57:58
our,
57:58
on
57:59
our
57:59
website.
57:59
Another
58:00
thing,
58:01
you
58:01
know,
58:01
we're
58:02
working
58:02
on,
58:02
I
58:03
told
58:03
you
58:04
briefly
58:04
touched
58:04
base
58:05
that
58:05
we're
58:05
working
58:05
on
58:05
some
58:05
new
58:06
marketing
58:06
stuff
58:07
and
58:08
been
58:08
trying
58:08
to
58:08
film
58:08
some
58:09
YouTube
58:10
stuff.
58:10
So
58:12
we
58:12
do
58:12
have
58:12
a
58:13
YouTube
58:13
channel.
58:13
It
58:13
doesn't
58:14
have
58:14
a
58:14
lot
58:14
of
58:14
stuff
58:14
on
58:14
it
58:15
now,
58:15
but
58:16
we're
58:16
going
58:16
to
58:16
start,
58:17
we're
58:17
going
58:17
to
58:17
have
58:17
some
58:17
teasers
58:18
out
58:18
there
58:18
soon.
58:18
We're
58:19
doing
58:19
a,
58:19
we're
58:19
doing
58:19
a
58:20
new
58:20
series
58:20
on
58:20
YouTube
58:21
called
58:21
the
58:21
Wolf
58:22
Pack
58:22
Series.
58:22
So
58:24
it's
58:24
essentially
58:24
just
58:25
a
58:25
series
58:25
of
58:26
YouTube
58:26
episodes
58:27
where
58:28
I
58:28
travel
58:28
around
58:29
the
58:29
country
58:29
and
58:30
meet
58:30
fly
58:31
shops
58:31
that
58:31
carry
58:31
our
58:32
products
58:32
or
58:33
fish
58:33
with
58:34
guide
58:34
companies
58:35
that
58:35
fish
58:36
our
58:36
stuff
58:36
on
58:36
their
58:36
boats.
58:37
And
58:39
yeah,
58:39
it's
58:39
going
58:39
to
58:39
be
58:40
real,
58:40
professionally
58:40
done.
58:41
Got
58:41
some
58:42
great
58:42
film
58:42
folks
58:43
helping
58:44
along
58:44
the
58:44
way
58:45
with,
58:46
you
58:46
know,
58:47
way
58:47
more
58:47
expensive
58:48
stuff
58:48
than
58:48
I
58:49
even
58:49
know
58:49
anything
58:50
about.
58:50
But
58:51
let,
58:52
let
58:52
them
58:52
capture
58:53
all
58:53
the
58:53
stuff.
58:53
I'm
58:54
just
58:54
gonna,
58:55
you
58:55
know,
58:55
do
58:56
my
58:56
thing
58:56
which
58:56
is
58:57
talk
58:57
to
58:58
the
58:58
shops
58:58
and
58:58
introduce
58:59
people
58:59
and
59:00
do
59:00
some
59:01
fishing
59:01
and
59:01
hopefully
59:01
catch
59:02
some
59:02
fish.
59:02
But
59:02
yeah,
59:03
look
59:03
for
59:03
the
59:03
Wolf
59:04
Pack
59:04
series.
59:04
We've
59:04
got
59:05
some,
59:05
got
59:06
some
59:06
cool
59:06
stuff
59:06
on
59:07
this
59:07
on
59:07
the
59:07
schedule.
59:08
We'll
59:08
be
59:08
up
59:08
in
59:08
Canada
59:10
doing
59:11
some
59:11
filming
59:11
with
59:11
some
59:12
of
59:12
the
59:12
folks
59:12
that
59:12
I've
59:12
met
59:13
over
59:13
the
59:13
years.
59:14
And
59:14
yeah,
59:15
should
59:15
be
59:15
a
59:15
cool
59:15
series
59:16
and
59:17
hopefully
59:17
another
59:18
avenue
59:19
for
59:19
folks
59:20
to
59:20
learn
59:21
more
59:21
about
59:21
us
59:22
as
59:22
a
59:22
brand
59:23
and
59:23
more
59:24
about
59:24
how,
59:25
how
59:25
our,
59:26
you
59:26
know,
59:26
what
59:26
our
59:27
vibes
59:27
are
59:27
and
59:28
what
59:28
kind
59:28
of
59:28
people
59:28
we
59:29
are.
59:29
So
59:30
yeah,
59:30
and
59:30
I'll
59:30
drop
59:30
a
59:31
link
59:31
to
59:31
your
59:31
YouTube
59:31
channel
59:32
in
59:32
the
59:32
show
59:32
notes.
59:32
And
59:33
are
59:33
there
59:33
other
59:33
places
59:34
that
59:34
folks
59:34
should
59:34
go
59:35
to
59:35
follow
59:35
Wolf
59:36
Rodco,
59:36
get
59:37
updates
59:37
on
59:37
the
59:37
Kentucky
59:38
River
59:38
Muskie
59:38
Classic
59:39
and
59:39
just
59:39
generally
59:40
follow
59:40
your
59:40
adventures
59:41
on
59:41
the
59:41
water?
59:42
Yeah,
59:42
man,
59:43
the
59:43
Wolf
59:44
Rod
59:44
Company,
59:44
Instagram
59:46
and
59:46
Facebook,
59:48
definitely
59:48
Instagram's,
59:49
we're
59:49
a
59:49
little
59:49
heavier
59:50
on
59:50
that.
59:51
It's
59:52
just
59:52
a
59:53
lot
59:53
easier
59:53
for
59:53
us
59:53
to
59:54
manage
59:54
as
59:54
a
59:54
small
59:55
company.
59:56
And
59:57
then
59:57
the
59:58
Kentucky
59:58
River
59:59
Muskie
59:59
Classic,
1:00:00
Instagram
1:00:00
as
1:00:00
well.
1:00:01
But
1:00:02
yeah,
1:00:02
definitely
1:00:03
the
1:00:04
website
1:00:04
wolf
1:00:04
rodco.com
1:00:05
has
1:00:06
all
1:00:06
of
1:00:06
our
1:00:06
stuff.
1:00:07
Got
1:00:07
some
1:00:07
cool
1:00:08
hats.
1:00:09
Keep,
1:00:10
keep
1:00:10
an
1:00:10
eye
1:00:10
out
1:00:10
for
1:00:11
some,
1:00:11
some
1:00:11
new
1:00:11
rods
1:00:12
popping
1:00:12
up
1:00:13
down
1:00:13
the
1:00:13
road.
1:00:15
And
1:00:15
then
1:00:15
I
1:00:16
guess
1:00:16
the
1:00:16
only
1:00:16
other
1:00:16
thing
1:00:17
I
1:00:18
would
1:00:18
ask
1:00:18
is
1:00:18
if
1:00:19
anyone
1:00:19
is,
1:00:20
you
1:00:20
know,
1:00:20
a
1:00:21
shop
1:00:21
owner
1:00:22
or
1:00:23
you
1:00:23
know,
1:00:24
even
1:00:24
guides.
1:00:24
If
1:00:25
you're
1:00:25
interested
1:00:25
in
1:00:26
learning
1:00:26
more
1:00:26
about
1:00:27
what
1:00:27
we
1:00:27
have
1:00:27
to
1:00:27
offer
1:00:28
and
1:00:29
what
1:00:29
you
1:00:29
know,
1:00:29
we've
1:00:29
got
1:00:30
some
1:00:30
great
1:00:30
dealer
1:00:31
pricing,
1:00:32
super
1:00:33
competitive
1:00:34
pricing
1:00:35
and
1:00:35
our
1:00:35
warranties
1:00:36
second
1:00:36
to
1:00:37
none.
1:00:37
So
1:00:38
you're
1:00:39
interested
1:00:39
in
1:00:39
getting
1:00:39
us
1:00:39
in
1:00:40
your
1:00:40
shop,
1:00:41
hit
1:00:41
me
1:00:41
up
1:00:42
Wolf
1:00:43
radco
1:00:43
at
1:00:43
gmail.
1:00:45
Be
1:00:46
happy
1:00:46
to
1:00:46
hear
1:00:46
more
1:00:48
from
1:00:48
you
1:00:48
and
1:00:49
send
1:00:50
you
1:00:50
a
1:00:50
little
1:00:50
bit
1:00:50
more
1:00:50
info
1:00:51
on
1:00:51
us.
1:00:52
Well,
1:00:52
there
1:00:52
you
1:00:52
go.
1:00:52
Well,
1:00:53
Dave,
1:00:53
I
1:00:53
really
1:00:53
appreciate
1:00:54
you
1:00:54
taking
1:00:54
some
1:00:54
time
1:00:54
out
1:00:55
of
1:00:55
your
1:00:55
evening
1:00:55
to
1:00:55
talk
1:00:55
with
1:00:56
me.
1:00:56
All
1:00:57
right,
1:00:57
man,
1:00:57
I
1:00:57
appreciate
1:00:57
it.
1:00:58
Take
1:00:58
care.
1:00:59
Thanks.
1:01:00
Well,
1:01:00
folks,
1:01:01
we
1:01:01
hope
1:01:01
you
1:01:01
enjoyed
1:01:02
the
1:01:02
interview
1:01:02
as
1:01:03
much
1:01:03
as
1:01:03
we
1:01:03
enjoyed
1:01:04
bringing
1:01:04
it
1:01:04
to
1:01:04
you.
1:01:05
Remember,
1:01:05
links
1:01:06
to
1:01:06
all
1:01:06
this
1:01:06
episode's
1:01:07
sponsors
1:01:07
are
1:01:07
in
1:01:07
the
1:01:07
show
1:01:07
notes.
1:01:08
Check
1:01:08
them
1:01:09
out.
1:01:09
Tight
1:01:10
lines,
1:01:10
everybody.