Latest / Motivation Mindset Podcast / Inside the Mind of a Champion: 79-Year-Old Boxer Frank Gilfeather’s Secrets
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- 0:06Speaker 1: My name is Frank Gilfeather. I'm seventy eight. I remember
- 0:13Speaker 1: coaching a couple of I don't know to be thirteen
- 0:15Speaker 1: or fourteen year old boys and I was saying, come on, guys,
- 0:19Speaker 1: you need to do this and do that.
- 0:22Speaker 2: And I remember one of.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Them said to me, did you box? And I said, yeah,
- 0:26Speaker 1: I boxed when I was young, well right through to
- 0:30Speaker 1: senior level. And they said, how many fights do you have?
- 0:34Speaker 1: And I said, give or take two hundred anyway, yeah, sure,
- 0:41Speaker 1: you know, And I said, no, you don't understand. Nowadays,
- 0:45Speaker 1: an amateur boxer was lucky if you get three fights
- 0:47Speaker 1: a year, you know. But we were boxing three fights
- 0:51Speaker 1: in a one night. Now, of course that's unthinkable. Guys, God,
- 1:06Speaker 1: what you know, three fights maybe in three weeks. Yes,
- 1:09Speaker 1: that's that's okay. There's an easiness in some of the
- 1:19Speaker 1: approach by some young boxers now, and they think they
- 1:23Speaker 1: come into the gym, I think, you've only got ninety minutes.
- 1:29Speaker 2: We gave it everything. You'll leave the gym. You'll be
- 1:32Speaker 2: feeling on top of the world.
- 1:33Speaker 1: But I seem tippy tapping him and I said, come on,
- 1:36Speaker 1: why just give it everything.
- 1:39Speaker 2: You know you want to go you want to exhaust yourself.
- 1:42Speaker 1: But these guys, lots of these guys, it's it's an
- 1:45Speaker 1: easier time for them.
- 1:46Speaker 2: They don't know what's gone before. God help them.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Do they ever had to realize that or go to
- 1:54Speaker 1: that era, if you like. But now they're gaming, they're
- 1:59Speaker 1: you know, it's it's all about the phone, texting, you know,
- 2:03Speaker 1: filming this, filming that, and you think, can we just
- 2:07Speaker 1: get on with it, you know, and do it? You
- 2:14Speaker 1: know the good thing and this is what taught me
- 2:15Speaker 1: a great thing about boxing through my dad.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Boxing is a family, right. Families fall out.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Sure, there's politics involved in all amateur sports, but at.
- 2:29Speaker 2: The heart of it all is that we care for
- 2:32Speaker 2: each other.
- 2:33Speaker 1: We have a respect for each other because we've been
- 2:36Speaker 1: in the ring. I'm talking generally now, we've been in
- 2:39Speaker 1: the ring. We've delivered punches onto somebody's nose and we've
- 2:43Speaker 1: fed them back. And you know the great thing about boxing.
- 2:48Speaker 1: You can go in there with the aim naturally to
- 2:51Speaker 1: punch your fellow man, and you want to do damage,
- 2:56Speaker 1: you want to win the contest, and when the final
- 2:59Speaker 1: bell rings, thing, what do you do?
- 3:02Speaker 2: You embrace? Right, there's a respect that was a great fight.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Some guy might have been beaten to blooming pulp and
- 3:10Speaker 1: he and he thinks his opponent that was a great fight,
- 3:14Speaker 1: thanks very much.
- 3:15Speaker 2: And they hug.
- 3:17Speaker 1: And I think what I always think, that's an amazing
- 3:20Speaker 1: thing to do. You know what you would think there'd
- 3:22Speaker 1: be You would think they'd be anger, You think that
- 3:25Speaker 1: be hatred there, but there's not.
- 3:28Speaker 2: At the end of it, all your pills, your boxers,
- 3:32Speaker 2: And that's a brilliant thing. I think.
- 3:50Speaker 1: So the thing I think about is if you respect
- 3:54Speaker 1: your fellow man, then you're going down the right road, right,
- 3:58Speaker 1: And I think what you've got to recognize is that
- 4:02Speaker 1: in all lots of life, there are people less fortunate
- 4:07Speaker 1: than you, right, and you've got to remember that. You
- 4:11Speaker 1: and I think the worst thing we can do sometimes
- 4:14Speaker 1: it's judge people on their appearance, judge people on what
- 4:21Speaker 1: they say or what they wear or what they've done
- 4:25Speaker 1: without actually knowing them. That kind of deep down kind
- 4:30Speaker 1: of inner belief in other people was helpful to me
- 4:35Speaker 1: in learning how you should behaving society and what society
- 4:39Speaker 1: should mean to each other. I mean, be true to yourself,
- 4:42Speaker 1: respect your fellow man, and.
- 4:47Speaker 2: Just be everything you can be.
- 4:50Speaker 1: And if you're not going to be a star in
- 4:54Speaker 1: whatever field you choose, it doesn't matter. You're giving your best,
- 4:59Speaker 1: give your best every time if you can. And I
- 5:03Speaker 1: never let up on your values in life. The values
- 5:07Speaker 1: that he taught me remain with me today and I
- 5:11Speaker 1: try to pass them down to my kids, you know,
- 5:13Speaker 1: not by sitting them down and actually saying, right, this
- 5:16Speaker 1: is value number one.
- 5:17Speaker 2: You'll do the just by example, lean by example.
- 5:21Speaker 1: And if you could do that, then I think you're
- 5:25Speaker 1: doing a decent job. I guess one of the big
- 5:29Speaker 1: lessons in life for me was watching my father. His
- 5:34Speaker 1: name was Dennis Skill Feather. He ran over decades. He
- 5:37Speaker 1: ran a series of boxing clubs, amateur boxing clubs, and
- 5:41Speaker 1: his ethoughts was to take young boys and it's pretty
- 5:44Speaker 1: much the same just now off the streets and now
- 5:47Speaker 1: young women and give them something meaningful in their lives
- 5:51Speaker 1: that keep them away from trouble, away from petty crime
- 5:54Speaker 1: and all the stuff that young kids at fourteen, fifteen,
- 5:57Speaker 1: sixteen would get up to. And it gave them, it
- 6:01Speaker 1: gave them a kind of feeling of belonging. I belonged
- 6:04Speaker 1: to For instance, his first club, after the Camper Down Club,
- 6:09Speaker 1: which was in the juke mill in the canteen. We established,
- 6:12Speaker 1: or he established, the Lochy Amateur Boxing Club. So what
- 6:16Speaker 1: you got was and I was four years old when
- 6:18Speaker 1: I started to go along there and kind of take
- 6:21Speaker 1: part in the training. But for me it was a
- 6:23Speaker 1: learning thing. And it's the smell of the sweat that
- 6:26Speaker 1: was listening to the thumps of the bags. I remember
- 6:28Speaker 1: those days. The punch bags were sailors kit bags stuffed
- 6:34Speaker 1: with sawdust, packed tightly with sawdust, and you could hear
- 6:39Speaker 1: the thumping that were hung by a piece of rope
- 6:41Speaker 1: from rafters. And these guys were trying to make the
- 6:44Speaker 1: grade as boxers.
- 6:46Speaker 2: But you know that didn't matter for my dad. It
- 6:48Speaker 2: didn't matter.
- 6:49Speaker 1: If you didn't want a box or he didn't want
- 6:51Speaker 1: to be a champion, or he didn't have any great ability.
- 6:54Speaker 1: As long as you were coming along, keeping fit and
- 6:57Speaker 1: joining in, that was important. I think all stuff, the YouTubers,
- 7:02Speaker 1: the UFC guys who've tried to transfer to boxing, in effect,
- 7:08Speaker 1: the guys who are not boxers, who are now demanding
- 7:11Speaker 1: huge phays and television rights and so on because of
- 7:15Speaker 1: their appearance in a boxing ring, wearing boxing gloves and
- 7:19Speaker 1: trying to be boxers. I think that has distilled the sport.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Oh big style, I think, you know, and I think
- 7:28Speaker 1: what's happened is.
- 7:31Speaker 2: That in the days when.
- 7:33Speaker 1: You know, managers, promoters, coaches, boxers were real boxing people.
- 7:42Speaker 2: They lived the sport, you know, they lived for it.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Now all that's changed because.
- 7:50Speaker 1: While in the great old days you're boxing every you know,
- 7:55Speaker 1: every other month, and that's why they racked up huge
- 7:59Speaker 1: numbers a fight, Sugar Air Rominson, all the Joe Lewis
- 8:02Speaker 1: and all these guys. They were boxing every other month,
- 8:05Speaker 1: sometimes every other week. I mean I looked at a guy,
- 8:09Speaker 1: Freddie Tennant, who was from my hometown in Dundee, who
- 8:13Speaker 1: was a flyweight boxer who gave his all.
- 8:17Speaker 2: He was a crowd pleaser, right, so he would box sometimes.
- 8:22Speaker 1: I counted up one nine times in a month, right,
- 8:27Speaker 1: and it wasn't unusual where he boxed three successive nights.
- 8:32Speaker 1: He would box nine times in a fortnight. He bought
- 8:35Speaker 1: fourteen times in three weeks. You had one hundred and
- 8:38Speaker 1: ninety six fight.
- 8:40Speaker 2: It's incredible. Of course you wouldn't get that now.
- 8:42Speaker 1: I wonder how long people are going to buy into boxing,
- 8:46Speaker 1: or are they going to say oh, not another.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Fight that we know is going to you know it's
- 8:52Speaker 2: going to how it's going to turn out.
- 8:53Speaker 1: And not another kind of press conference where you know,
- 8:56Speaker 1: somebody's upturning tables or shouting or sticking the head on somebody.
- 9:02Speaker 2: We don't need that in boxing dog and should be
- 9:04Speaker 2: clean of all that. It should be full of integrity
- 9:08Speaker 2: and authenticity. And it's not at the moment.
- 9:16Speaker 1: That the kind of the kind of atmosphere in which
- 9:29Speaker 1: I grew up is hugely different to where it is now. However,
- 9:36Speaker 1: we must never forget that there are underprivileged people still
- 9:42Speaker 1: in our society. I mean, if you look at the
- 9:44Speaker 1: place we're sitting in today in Aberdeen, at the height
- 9:48Speaker 1: of the Aberdeen of the North Sea oil industry, Aberdeen
- 9:53Speaker 1: was a wash with money, despite that at that very
- 9:59Speaker 1: time there was seven areas of deprivation in aber day,
- 10:04Speaker 1: if officially, areas of deprivation, and people saying how could
- 10:09Speaker 1: it be so?
- 10:09Speaker 2: But it's always been like that.
- 10:11Speaker 1: You know, we always talk about, oh, we must level up,
- 10:15Speaker 1: bring you know, bring the poor people up into line
- 10:18Speaker 1: with the rich. But well, as soon as you do that,
- 10:21Speaker 1: then the other lot go higher, so that gap is widening.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Year after year.
- 10:27Speaker 1: We had to recognize that. And so the guys who
- 10:31Speaker 1: come to the boxing clubs. When I went, you wore
- 10:35Speaker 1: a white vest and a pair of shorts and if
- 10:39Speaker 1: you were lucky, and as I progressed, I have a
- 10:41Speaker 1: pair of boxing books. But most of the guys didn't.
- 10:45Speaker 1: They just came in clim souls and they just got
- 10:49Speaker 1: stuck in and enjoyed it. Well, my kind of description
- 10:56Speaker 1: of a champion is anyone who give us back to life,
- 11:02Speaker 1: you know, in any walk of life, who gives something
- 11:06Speaker 1: of themselves. Right. So we talk about champions, obviously because
- 11:10Speaker 1: we're in the sport of champions, but a champion for
- 11:15Speaker 1: me is are people like the guys who open up
- 11:19Speaker 1: the boxing clubs to help others. Because if the boxing
- 11:22Speaker 1: club didn't exist, thirty forty kids.
- 11:26Speaker 2: And young adults and all kinds.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Of people would not have a place to come and
- 11:31Speaker 1: keep fit and be part of something and be you know,
- 11:35Speaker 1: you're being.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Doing something meaningful. They wouldn't have that.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Now, can you imagine right across the country, right across
- 11:41Speaker 1: the world, if we didn't have those people to do
- 11:46Speaker 1: that kind of stuff free of charge, volunteering and not
- 11:51Speaker 1: making anything out and not looking for anything out of
- 11:53Speaker 1: it other than perhaps to discover, you know, a champion
- 11:58Speaker 1: here and there.
- 11:59Speaker 2: But for me, those guys are the champions. So why
- 12:01Speaker 2: would rather have people in all walks of lives?
- 12:04Speaker 1: People who give charity workers? You know, these people who
- 12:09Speaker 1: go are unsung heroes. These people who do stuff don't
- 12:13Speaker 1: want any kind of they don't want any recompense, they
- 12:16Speaker 1: don't want any glory, they don't want any recognition, but
- 12:20Speaker 1: they give to others, charity workers, boxing club people, these
- 12:26Speaker 1: all these men and women are champions. So for me,
- 12:31Speaker 1: a champion person is more important than a champion boxer
- 12:35Speaker 1: or a champion sprinter, or a champion.
- 12:37Speaker 2: Sportsman or woman.
- 12:40Speaker 1: These are the champions of my society. I'm not looking
- 12:46Speaker 1: for praise or glory or publicity or.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Anything like that. I mean, I'm just past that stage,
- 12:54Speaker 2: you know. But what I'm looking for now is for people.
- 12:58Speaker 1: And this is what I'm getting people who are buying
- 13:01Speaker 1: into what I'm saying right and my teaching, And I've
- 13:05Speaker 1: got to tell I always tell young boxers the reason
- 13:09Speaker 1: why I'm telling them to do this and not that.
- 13:13Speaker 1: And I think if you help explain the why why
- 13:18Speaker 1: we're doing this is because then I think they will
- 13:22Speaker 1: kind of take it on at least that's why I hope.
- 13:26Speaker 1: And the other thing is the messages I'm trying to
- 13:30Speaker 1: get over to people and this is again happening. You know,
- 13:33Speaker 1: nothing has been planned, nothing has been planned.
- 13:36Speaker 2: I start getting.
- 13:36Speaker 1: People think, wow, you're seventy eight, and this has inspired me.
- 13:41Speaker 1: I'm fifty three. I used to go be a boxer.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Now I'm going back to the gym. One guy got
- 13:46Speaker 1: in touch and he said, I used to box when
- 13:49Speaker 1: I was young. And he said, when I saw you and.
- 13:52Speaker 2: Thought I think he said he was sixty two. He said.
- 13:55Speaker 2: I phoned up my two pals who used to go
- 13:58Speaker 2: to the boxing club decades ago, and said, have you
- 14:01Speaker 2: seen this guy.
- 14:01Speaker 1: On Instagram or TikTok? And we'll say, yeah, Well, why
- 14:07Speaker 1: don't we go back.
- 14:08Speaker 2: To the gym? And I tell people go and knock
- 14:10Speaker 2: on the door.
- 14:11Speaker 1: Say in the gym I want to join. I'd be
- 14:17Speaker 1: very very surprised if a gym. And I'm talking about
- 14:21Speaker 1: when I say a gym, I'm not talking about a
- 14:23Speaker 1: private gym where you have to pay. I'm talking about
- 14:26Speaker 1: a n amateur boxing club where you have to pay
- 14:28Speaker 1: three quid or whatever, a fiver, They're not going to
- 14:31Speaker 1: turn you away.
- 14:32Speaker 2: Well, I think I've.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Proved that it's never too late to find something in
- 14:40Speaker 1: your life that suits you in which you'll be comfortable
- 14:45Speaker 1: right now. It might be a fitness It might be
- 14:48Speaker 1: walking around the block three times. It might be going
- 14:51Speaker 1: out for half an hour in one direction walking back
- 14:54Speaker 1: for half an hour in the other direction towards home,
- 14:57Speaker 1: and that you know that does for your fitness couple
- 15:02Speaker 1: of two or three times a week.
- 15:03Speaker 2: See what I'm very conscious of now. Everybody speaks about.
- 15:06Speaker 1: Mental health issues, and really interestingly, I've never really bought
- 15:12Speaker 1: into a lot of that, but I do recognize with
- 15:16Speaker 1: the pressures of life today and the pressure that people
- 15:20Speaker 1: put on themselves, our release is required.
- 15:24Speaker 2: So the release could be the gym. It could be
- 15:27Speaker 2: the swimming pool.
- 15:27Speaker 1: My wife is seventy one and swims every day. It
- 15:31Speaker 1: could be it could be walking, it could be hill walking,
- 15:36Speaker 1: you know, anything that keeps the pulse.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Racing, the heartbeat going.
- 15:41Speaker 1: I know, you know, we've read studies that show that
- 15:45Speaker 1: if you do, for example, twenty minutes of exercise every day,
- 15:51Speaker 1: you could reduce or you could reduce.
- 15:53Speaker 2: The chance of you dying early by.
- 15:57Speaker 1: Between thirty five and forty two percent, So why wouldn't
- 16:01Speaker 1: you do it?
- 16:02Speaker 2: Now?
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- 16:07Speaker 1: a limp hed one leg short than the other to
- 16:10Speaker 1: a football accident.
- 16:11Speaker 2: Before they were antibiotics. My dad didn't do any training
- 16:15Speaker 2: in the gym.
- 16:16Speaker 1: But my dad walked everywhere right even till.
- 16:21Speaker 2: The age of its mid nineties, and he had a dog.
- 16:26Speaker 1: And we calculated, well, what's your route dad? He said, well,
- 16:28Speaker 1: I go up here, I'll do this. We calculated he
- 16:31Speaker 1: walked four miles every day he was in ninety five
- 16:35Speaker 1: ninety six. You don't need a gym, I say that,
- 16:44Speaker 1: don't need a gym. If you've got a car park,
- 16:46Speaker 1: you've got a field, if you've got a back garden,
- 16:48Speaker 1: you could train, you could share a box, you could
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- 16:55Speaker 1: out of your day. Twenty minutes out of the day
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