Latest / Carne Cruda Podcast / Iñaki Gabilondo inaugura la República Independiente de la Radio (CARNE CRUDA 1322)
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- 0:00You' re going to put the guillotine on the sun door, by the
- 0:02way, the guillotine. The guillotine. I' m going to follow him
- 0:05my whole life writing pamphlet and then you stay against the buns. Yes,
- 0:07sir, the quiltina. The Queen za guillotina the pimps of the Queen zazas
- 0:11and I throw away the king' s pimps. It is guillotine to the
- 0:15Chulas ministers that I throw the Obísorge surrounds it that I here ink, which
- 0:18has not all lies. I do, I do, the guillotine is over.
- 0:23Yes, sir We' re going to eat Walt like a card We
- 0:31' re going to eat him exactly. It' s raw days, Violeta,
- 0:36how are you? All right, raw day, Javier, how about
- 0:39me great because today we have a party to present. On the first day
- 0:42of this month of February we inaugurated the space of the Independent Republic of the
- 0:45radio for compañeros media, collaborators and friends, and we did it all the
- 0:49way up with the great voice of the radio, Iñaki Gaviron, with the
- 0:52live music of some dear friends and of the program Varieties Azafrán and another musical
- 0:56surprise that I will not reveal, because if we would not go to surprise.
- 0:59That' s all we recorded so you wouldn' t miss it.
- 1:00So on our last day of broadcasting this month, we upload it to you
- 1:04to listen to it and to see it, because the party started with a
- 1:07video in which we presented our brand new studio inside raw video afternoons, forgive
- 1:12me that I greet you from a plasma like Mariano Rajoy, but it is
- 1:17not that you all end up here in and before starting this inauguration of the
- 1:19Independent Republic of the Radio. I wanted to show you our brand new studio,
- 1:23the first in our country, funded entirely by its listeners. As you
- 1:26can see, it is a studio on the street, overlooking the street where
- 1:30they can hear us from outside, they can even hear us from there connecting
- 1:36to the broadcast in a QBR code. But also, obviously, you can
- 1:38listen from within and watch from anywhere, because we not only record and broadcast
- 1:46sound as well video. So here you have this studio and that space for
- 1:52what you want and what you need, and we thank you very much that
- 1:56you wanted to come to the inauguration of this independent Republic in which there could
- 2:01be no better godfather than a name that means radio in this country, but
- 2:10that is also much more than radio. It' s an institution, it
- 2:14' s a myth in journalism, it' s like the boat. It
- 2:17' s more than a club. Just like us, we' re more
- 2:20than just a radio show. We are a family, a community, a
- 2:23history of resistance and we are a study and a space. We are now
- 2:29an independent republic, something that was the dream of this team and that has
- 2:34come true. And besides, there can be no better godfather, because he
- 2:38' s the son of butchers. So, to inaugurate the Republic of raw
- 2:42meat from the butcher shop with all of you, Luis del Olmo Inaki Gabylondo,
- 2:55you have once opened a station. Yeah, like that and it doesn
- 3:00' t smell many. So, realize I' m many years old and
- 3:02I was on a radio. Fifty- five has given me time and in
- 3:05some such small accounts one and the other already, but also a musical line,
- 3:09of classical music that made the chain until long ago digital and such I
- 3:13did also sun and how a radio is inaugurated. What did this tell you,
- 3:16no idea, no idea? Don' t ask me things about me
- 3:21I' m not young enough to know everything. I said it was cool,
- 3:23I mean. I know what I know, but I' m not
- 3:27very young. Good, but you' ve started a lot of projects,
- 3:30you' ve started a lot of shows, you' ve directed a lot
- 3:31of radios. You know how you start a project like how you start an
- 3:38adventure, so look. Some believe that you start knowing where you want to
- 3:40get there. But I don' t think it starts that way, you
- 3:45know, you know what engine drives you, and then we' ll see.
- 3:46No, because if the route is a little long, it ends up
- 3:52making different swings. Those who become obsessed with a destination point will surely end
- 3:57up first not right with him and also obsess. I think we have to
- 4:00have an engine inside. The illusion you have at the beginning is the one
- 4:03that pushes you. We' ll see how far it goes, not you
- 4:08how you opened up on the radio, since you were a little boy.
- 4:11Little Tiny' cause of course when I was a kid there was no TV.
- 4:15The TV appeared in my life when I was in college, but not
- 4:17because I lived in a lost village, but when the TV came in it
- 4:23came and it was up to me so we loved each other with the radio.
- 4:27We grew up on the radio. The radio was the home electro that
- 4:30we had there at home. It was he, moreover, a country of
- 4:32the mettle dictatorship. It was like a barracks. It was all black and
- 4:35white and suddenly expensive. The radio. I' d open the window,
- 4:40the window to the dream, the magic, the viticent verdu used to say
- 4:44ilversun te. You found there on that Creton radio that had names of cities
- 4:48and it was, because that was the dream of the technicolor dream, that
- 4:54you wanted to more or less live on the radio. And everyone had gathered
- 4:57him in the family around the furniture that you had because of that you had
- 5:00not been with your family. You even huge family. I made it clear
- 5:04to you, until I went to college, there was no TV. Not
- 5:08only do I call José Sacristán one day, for example, people more or
- 5:11less your fifth or José Luis Garcí and they will start singing ads of the
- 5:15time, just like me, because, like me, they were raised at
- 5:17that time fascinated by that was their vehicle of communication with the outside world and
- 5:24with the world that they wanted to dream also in what made you dream.
- 5:27And that' s where it made us clear how I wanted to live there
- 5:30and I' ve lived until old, so, man, I' m
- 5:34being privileged uncle, there that Colombia, the radio, in my life you
- 5:36don' t remember the first day on the radio, that' s what
- 5:40happens, is that I have a very rare story, but I don'
- 5:45t think there' s a biography like the way on the radio to see
- 5:47why my first paid job was to run a station? My second paid job
- 5:50was running another station? My third paid job was running another station? My
- 5:56fourth paid job was directing the news series. The fifth says turn the news
- 6:00on TV It' s this and then one day they plant me in front
- 6:03of the microphone. I mean, I was a manager' s guy.
- 6:06Ah always that state of three. Of course, people usually take another tour,
- 6:10they do programs and, perhaps, one day they get older and the
- 6:12norm to the manager of something they didn' t put me in, they
- 6:15already plugged me in in that world of management 27 years old. I think
- 6:20he directs the most powers the sea is still minted, yes, twenty-
- 6:24six. If you know what happens is that they noticed a kind of great
- 6:29trait that companies have a radar to detect that is the sense of responsibility.
- 6:33I, as older brother of nine brothers in the butcher shop of not so
- 6:36many of raw meat, know a little yes, yes, because I have
- 6:40three, nine because so other eight good and one more, because we had
- 6:44the sense of responsibility almost of factory, of a center of responsibility of factory.
- 6:48And all seem to species detect this and in general, because they have
- 6:53always entrusted me with tasks giving, of course, that either bad or regular,
- 6:56I was of course going to carry them out as I could not,
- 7:00and then, already because of some circumstances of life, I ended up finding
- 7:02myself in front of a microphone doing programs. But when it didn' t
- 7:04go through my mind that it was going to be my life that wasn'
- 7:08t and you remember that the first time you put yourself in front of a
- 7:10microphone and you have to tell in a story, you have to tell the
- 7:14reality to the listeners today. When I was the director of Radio Sevilla,
- 7:17when Franco was still alive the broadcaster of the team of the plain, because
- 7:24there were sometimes that intervened in scene appear some kind of comments, some observation
- 7:28or the thing And so yes, but I do not remember as a great
- 7:33solemnity, nothing very concrete. Then he also directed Ara twenty- five and
- 7:38suddenly I found myself officio stuck the drug And it was especially when after being
- 7:43director of Spanish television news, that that is a matter that caught you to
- 7:47the State drip, that asked the State drip for example, I realized one
- 7:50thing that I had not noticed and that is what happens to the coaches.
- 7:54I' m a coach, I mean, I was on the bench and
- 7:56others were playing and their success was your success and their failure was your failure.
- 8:03Uh, then, I' m always running things later. You say
- 8:05that discovery and I said today, at that time we are on Spanish television,
- 8:11we were doing well, but without the political circumstances they are of such
- 8:16caliber that it was a gale that made us all to fly And from now
- 8:18on, I triumph or I fail. I just, I mean, I
- 8:22play the field. I' ll go far or I won' t go
- 8:26far, but I' m not sitting on the bench telling people what I
- 8:28think needs to be done and waiting for it to be right or wrong to
- 8:33see if I' ve succeeded the loser. And then, above all,
- 8:33when he told me one day José María González Sinde, the father of the
- 8:37laquerologist, was a minister, who was a very friendly, honest friend of
- 8:39Chaval and such that he had been on the PC for quite a few years
- 8:43And Mira told me, I left the PC to not go to any more
- 8:46meetings. Hahaha, and I wasn' t on the PC, but I
- 8:50also got out of there so I wouldn' t go to any more meetings,
- 8:54because the management world is devastating. It' s one thing to write
- 8:58a book. It' s awful, it' s hairy. I mean,
- 9:01I ran away from there in this life. Well, and some of
- 9:03you here are witnesses to Berlin, good friend, and you' ve seen
- 9:07me get so off the rebound from that world of management and the man in
- 9:11office. Secretary of these things, it' s not clear that later I
- 9:13objected in principle to having office for nothing, that is I in thirst was
- 9:18going to be very early like him. There was no one introduced me wherever
- 9:20I wanted. I didn' t have such a thing, I didn'
- 9:26t have any slow ones and I didn' t want to have any offices.
- 9:26Never you and when I left the show, after being eight hundred years,
- 9:31what they tell you, take your stuff and go I had no drawer
- 9:33to open to take something that could take me away. And that was the
- 9:39one they said office. No. No, no, I want to fly
- 9:43to friend, to my ball and as I was lucky that at the time
- 9:46I was going to be all the free table sitting good. You' ve
- 9:50already said that you succeed or fail alone. But in the end lightning is
- 9:54a very team work, totally team work. But by saying yes, but
- 9:58it' s a team job you' re playing at. Well, no,
- 10:01it' s not quite equipment, but I differentiate it from the role
- 10:05of sitting on an instruction bench, giving instructions that others execute or not.
- 10:07I wasn' t. I participate in the fight with my colleagues, in
- 10:11a perfectly organized team. No one can do it alone, but you'
- 10:16re taking part in the fight, you' re playing on your moustaches there
- 10:18you' re not sitting. No, and that' s what I'
- 10:22m saying. I got away with it. You' ve sung a part
- 10:24of your story that I wanted to ask you about. I think when you
- 10:26were on Radio Sevilla, you got a fine of twenty- five thousand pesetas
- 10:31for saying something you shouldn' t have given a piece of that information.
- 10:33We have many, but the fattest of that is worth telling, because people
- 10:37who don' t know what a dictatorship was. With this anecdote I have
- 10:41seventy eh, but this can be very revealing. Look you couldn' t
- 10:46give information until the year seventy- six it was forbidden at two and a
- 10:50half and ten at night. All the stations in Spain connected with Radio Nacional
- 10:52and there it was given the only information that could be broadcast in Spain.
- 10:56The other stations gave local things, sports, reports, contests, music,
- 11:01but we all started to give a little bit for a sack and so with
- 11:07the problem and we had to occupy ruo that is called José María Rincón.
- 11:09That one day he caught and told on the radio, as well as that
- 11:15when he discredited a problem of money in the Provincial Council of Seville, that
- 11:18is, a problem of money the diputación polidad of Seville, with the small
- 11:22detail that the president of the diputación was the son- in- law of
- 11:26Carrero Blanco, resident of returning with this, well the Vice- President of
- 11:31the Government notice us that they see things, This gentleman of yes yes,
- 11:39well, this is the white raced hierno. The president of the council sent
- 11:41a note through information and tourism, by which that boy was fired to eternal
- 11:43for life. Outside seek another breadwinner to live, another country not to be
- 11:52forgiveness, forgiveness, truth. And then, after that had already been done,
- 11:54you tell a boy guy guy from now on you won' t be
- 11:58able to work. And then there' s a message that tells me unless
- 12:01you, the station' s director, are going to apologize. Dude,
- 12:07and here you see a servant going to the silution, to ask her forgiveness,
- 12:13because I went to ask her forgiveness. My partner was playing the bread,
- 12:16and when I got there I thought that a guy who was kind of
- 12:20just seeing me get there might already appreciate the gesture and save me. No,
- 12:24no, I didn' t wait for him to get there and apologize.
- 12:28What you didn' t hear is what I was saying inside. But
- 12:31that' s how it was. One of the small displays of moderation that
- 12:33could allow a gentleman to say that journalist that I didn' t like to
- 12:39the fucking street, but to the street not a month or, five days,
- 12:43no no In addition, in a sada sanction I could put a company,
- 12:46no, no, no, an administrative decision. So, yes,
- 12:48and then I became interested. I don' t remember, but we had
- 12:52enough of those. Well, and another of the moments I was counting on
- 12:54is that it' s that moment when you' re directing the Spanish radio
- 12:58and television news outlets, and at a stroke of this one already in democracy,
- 13:01that you hadn' t stood in front of the House until then,
- 13:07and you have to make that decision that day is perhaps one of the most
- 13:11tense, most difficult moments you' ve ever lived in your career. Well,
- 13:11for starters, I' ve already told you a lot about that,
- 13:13but the 23rd faith was the hardest day of my life for so many reasons.
- 13:16There was only one TV and I was the news director of that TV
- 13:20that there was only one and I was the only Spanish. I think he
- 13:24saw the coup d'état live without being in Congress of the deputies,
- 13:26because, as I told society, that act was not happening live because there
- 13:30was only one TV like. There was no mystery, because it was a
- 13:35second vote that already resulted. Inexorably, it was a voting routine and was
- 13:39being recorded so that it could be given on the television. I, in
- 13:43my office had the monitors from all the channels you have there are recording of
- 13:46grovisión and whatever and I saw that at the time it happened and always invited.
- 13:52Fernando has smelled me say this many times. I invite people to imagine
- 13:56what they' ve seen many times without knowing how it ends. Sure,
- 14:01you imagine you' re watching it and you don' t know how it
- 14:03ends and you see those shots and then they had all that mess there.
- 14:05So one day began, a day enormously complicated and it was very, very
- 14:09long and very very difficult for many reasons. And then, on that long
- 14:13day so many things happened that God would already need an hour to tell her
- 14:18that in the end the decision was made that I would go out to tell
- 14:22that the soldiers who had come to occupy them because they came to occupy them
- 14:26and then they left and so made the decision that it would be me who
- 14:28would say it. And then I went there to make my debut. I
- 14:33never think that aya, but there will never have been in the history of
- 14:35television anyone who debuted less worried about knowing how he was getting away with saving
- 14:43his life was enough. No cat man and there was the first time I
- 14:48saw myself on screen. I see myself now and I look like a three
- 14:52- year- old. I was thirty- eight years old. Not anymore,
- 14:54no, not little. Okay. We' ve come to talk about
- 14:56radio more than television for you that without radio there' s nothing that means
- 15:01to anyone. For me on the radio is a mechanism that establishes a natural
- 15:05communication like breathing. So when he talks about the future of the media,
- 15:09I don' t know what the radio is. He doesn' t have
- 15:11any problems. I do not know whether it will be developed with one technology
- 15:15or another, with one technical toy shop or another, if it will have
- 15:18an organizational structure of one type of enterprise of the other. But as long
- 15:20as there' s someone who has something to say to someone who has to
- 15:22listen to it. It is natural that a human being communicates in an oral
- 15:26way and that is part of social breathing. And that' s right.
- 15:31That' s why I usually define the radio, to begin with, the
- 15:33only means of communication that lives in hours, minutes and seconds like man and
- 15:39doesn' t take over you to read a book, to open the computer,
- 15:45to watch a movie. You have to leave everything to do it.
- 15:48The radio is a modest and formidable second voice. He' s seeing what
- 15:54he' s living, doing what he' s doing. And the radio
- 15:56is by your side as a company. I usually define it as a kind
- 16:02of tik tak, like a second heart that' s there I touch,
- 16:04touch, everything, while you go looking. It' s a task.
- 16:07It' s a second voice. You know, and you don' t
- 16:11need it sometimes, plus you just hear it, sometimes you listen to it,
- 16:17it' s not the same thing, and sometimes you take it away,
- 16:19but it' s not the power of your life. It doesn'
- 16:21t make you the protagonist of your life. You can be cooking, eating,
- 16:23and then you have that particularity of living with people in real time and,
- 16:30in addition, getting used to it at any angle of life. And
- 16:33the other day, Andreo from the fountain, I told him I' m
- 16:36going to entrust you with a task. Look for a name for the radio
- 16:40' s relationship with the listeners, because of course realize that a listener takes
- 16:44a radio to the kitchen, to the car, to the bed, to
- 16:49the bathroom, Uncle, that' s a family relationship. That' s
- 16:55a lot of people who go to bed and look at a ra intimacy.
- 16:56But we are not brothers, nor cousins and nephews. But we are something.
- 17:00Andre says put a name on that relationship, because that' s a
- 17:03clearly familiar ration. It establishes a very particular relationship intimacy. It wasn'
- 17:07t, because it was very easy. Eh Iñaki is worth the name.
- 17:11No. In fact, I think that for a large part of Spaniards,
- 17:15during a very long time in that country, Iñaki was synonymous with radio.
- 17:21That is to say, today was and has been the most heard program in
- 17:23the history of Spanish radio. What it meant to You, because besides,
- 17:27we all have the anecdote that Iñaki said it, that the sun has risen
- 17:32you have seen it, not that Iñaki said it. What that meant,
- 17:36what responsibility it meant for you to have on men. For me, the
- 17:38responsibility is going to be one, I mean, I' ve always said
- 17:41it to myself is enough for a person to listen to me and trust me
- 17:48and believe I' m being playing fair with him. That person fills all
- 17:52my responsibility, that is to say that there are one hundred and zero million
- 17:56more, not multiplying by one hundred thousand responsibility weighs on me one person suffices
- 17:57to me. Besides, I roll the reform from my routine. My routine
- 18:00was to tell you guys. Today his name is José Luis and he is
- 18:04from Burgos and is forty- four years old and he will wake up or
- 18:08the radi I will say hello it is six in the morning. That'
- 18:11s the raison d'être of our work. He is there, concludes,
- 18:15is born and dies our work. No polanco, no soe, no
- 18:18milk, no world, no comb. That' s great. It'
- 18:22s part of the general uproar. Children who don' t forget that our
- 18:25business is there and tomorrow is Mari Carmen and tomorrow it is pepe that the
- 18:30fireman and that is the afternoon. And with that, don' t tell
- 18:33me that that doesn' t hold me responsible to imagine that a person was
- 18:37going to be in a bar in the afternoon defending a point of view that,
- 18:40perhaps, I didn' t have and that I had fed him counterbalanced
- 18:44by something that I was saying to myself. That filled me with absolute responsibility
- 18:45and I didn' t care. If it were eight or eight billion.
- 18:51It didn' t change It can' t change that. You think an
- 18:53actor who' s doing a deeply important function for him is going to do
- 19:00the worst because there are three empty rows in the seating yard or because it
- 19:04' s full. Well, no, I' ve never noticed the crowd
- 19:11of me I' ve perceived a listener to someone who hears you struggling and
- 19:15believing you and or who feels treacherous about you, or who feels deceived or
- 19:18hates you because you' ve said a lot of people about yourself, but
- 19:22you don' t know. The number of people is that if I could,
- 19:23I' ve cut my head off, that is, and it also
- 19:27lets me know You think I can imagine it. I don' t understand
- 19:32that when I had a guy on the street and he still tells me that
- 19:34you' re an old and retired astor and on the street I had you
- 19:37tell me, since you leave Spain, he says well, yes, I
- 19:42guess they weren' t very good. Yeah, well. And in that
- 19:48play you played every day in one thing that has always impressed me very much
- 19:51that I have been told by colleagues who have worked with you and colleagues is
- 19:55that you have never had a script until the editorial you were doing in the
- 19:59morning. I don' t take four notes and let it go like that,
- 20:03well, like I' ve never done an interview with papers, but
- 20:07you don' t know the papers you have to read to do a paperless
- 20:08interview. I mean, you didn' t have an interview script. Neither
- 20:11did I, but I kept reading and studying and being up to date.
- 20:15I did take had an action skeleton, but I had a respoxyon. Just
- 20:21what I was doing. I didn' t interview anyone who wrote a book.
- 20:23If I hadn' t read the book to myself, I know how
- 20:26to do an interview by reading only to the solaba. We' re sleeping
- 20:29and you' re still having a lot of experience. It doesn' t
- 20:30seem decent to me that the work of a writer is the job of a
- 20:34journalist holding an interview because he came out of the flap and that he wanted
- 20:37more than my colleagues to go up and everyone knew it. It was part
- 20:40of our code of good manners. And then I, when I started talking
- 20:44to the writer, I didn' t need to have a lot of notes.
- 20:45I was talking to an author of a book that I had read that
- 20:48I had happened the same with cinema, with things, and I was trying
- 20:52to inform myself and everything I could and I was trying to be aware of
- 20:56the royals and have judgment. My wife often told me that it was very
- 20:59funny in the time of the war of the old self, Goslavia, that
- 21:03I went crazy like everyone else, but I did, I mean, I
- 21:06took, I drew some plans, some maps there to see Bosnian. Bosnian
- 21:10servo servo Croatians to try to understand that formidable hieroglyphic that the next morning we
- 21:15were going to comment. I was doing all day and I was saying joa
- 21:18after being here for an hour, I know how to talk five minutes about
- 21:22this subject and tomorrow all the radios are going to be talking about this for
- 21:26three hours. But, but if you can' t be too complicated,
- 21:30then I' m telling you. The key was to have all the information
- 21:33you could and then to give communication the spontaneity of a communication that you want,
- 21:38that sprouts from you from your knowledge and not to read the interviews.
- 21:44For example, I don' t know how to do some interviews with papers
- 21:48because I discovered a long time ago that people only answer if they know how
- 21:53to listen to someone who doesn' t know how to listen, doesn'
- 21:56t answer, corresponds to the zero doubts and almost you ask a question and
- 22:00when you' ve already thrown it out and start the answer, you start
- 22:04already disinteresting yourself from the answer to look for the next question. You think
- 22:04that' s the interview. You don' t notice that the communication circuit
- 22:08has broken. Then of course, but you have to read a lot of
- 22:12interview papers, some extremely difficult on very delicate, running the risk that you
- 22:17will forget something, but making sure that this is going to happen at a
- 22:23point of real communication, not at a point forged by a articulation of something
- 22:29written. It' s my point of view. I insist a lot.
- 22:32I don' t have a universal recipe. I know great fellows who do
- 22:34wonderful perfectly written interviews. I say what happens to me and it happens to
- 22:38me that I don' t know how to do that, so I take
- 22:44a lot of trouble to do an interview, a lot of annoying. I
- 22:45' ve refueled to lulver. Then I start making them without having any paper.
- 22:49I don' t want to have any or. I' ve had
- 22:51no part here, but if I hadn' t remanded myself to ask the
- 22:52questions, I' m sorry. Javier, I' m going to give
- 22:56you a lot of remodeling for raw meat. Ever since he came to Evole,
- 23:00I' ve had the gusto. I' ve gone to row you.
- 23:00We work nine more here. Yeah, it' s really ho of
- 23:03them jeres. I see little representation. Yeah, I could, maybe I
- 23:07' ll ask you some key questions. Two of those three you want to
- 23:11come. Tell me according to all of you. Violeta Muñoz, don'
- 23:17t add her, because I' m leaving the channel i Naki. Violeta
- 23:18Violeta Iñaki, two stars on the radio. I, unlike Iñaki, have
- 23:22to wear a script not, but because I have a question. It'
- 23:26s been a long time since I explained I' m in those days that
- 23:29it' s not very hot, because you' re with the jsei of
- 23:32high coyo and they' re giving you a seal on your face. But
- 23:32we' re going to finish and pre- see I have a key question.
- 23:34Like we' re saying. Javier used to say he was a butcher
- 23:37' s son, and nine children came out of that butcher' s shop,
- 23:42namely, to see if I' m not misinformed, Lourdes helps people
- 23:45in Korea. Pedro sports journalist with nine Olympic Games to the Ramón Executive Back
- 23:48of Communication Luis and Aranza Doctors. Javier continued the family business. Jesus worked
- 23:53with clarity. Jesus worked with a person to compare them and Cerebral and Angel
- 24:00has come to defend the people. Well, you and that butcher shop you
- 24:03ate and what we have to eat here to have so much of if you
- 24:07look at a family of nine who also had grandmothers. My great- grandmother
- 24:11died when I was twenty years old to want nine if you weren' t,
- 24:14thirteen or fourteen and over in an open house like the houses used to
- 24:17be. Then there was no cousin uncle or people with difficulties who will not
- 24:19go that way. And then and we all went to the butcher shop to
- 24:22run errands and we were all going to leave with them for some advice for
- 24:26the meat, not trusting that the piece is beautiful. There' s attention
- 24:32to this. There are a lot of pieces that are very nice and very
- 24:33dry. You have to count on that pieces like I know the back,
- 24:38for example, if rich, what game is very good back. Yeah,
- 24:44no alub gets fucked up in a family like ours getting a little ranch going.
- 24:48No, frankly, my poor mother was doing what she could, but
- 24:52we didn' t get a little bit more guurbs than much success. There
- 24:57some of my brothers bought themselves in the first clothes they bought, bought or
- 25:00got married before they were picking clothes from the boat and school book just the
- 25:07same and you loved yourself. Only that I had the advantage to the large
- 25:11family that we learned to divide before to read clearly, that is, there
- 25:15was no other you put, a tray of croquettes in the middle of the
- 25:18direct and the brothers until I didn' t know how to say ah I
- 25:22already knew he had five. The life of such a large family. Vers
- 25:26is a great game, which produces very formidable movements. Or I was wondering
- 25:33that we' re also a large family. A family of ours is named
- 25:34on horseback between the radio, the radio and the little one, because I
- 25:37wanted to ask you listen podcast you like, yes, of course, podcasts,
- 25:41you listened to them since I was seven years old, because now we
- 25:45have called podcast to what in the radio, before the information became possible,
- 25:49had greatly developed the expressive creative capacity of the radio, with sounds, with
- 25:55planes, with background music, with special effects, which now, fortunately,
- 25:59has recovered to complete already all the prosibilities of the radio. Before, when
- 26:03it wasn' t going to be information, it was an amputated radio and
- 26:08when after the information we fell in love with it so much that we forgot
- 26:11the expressive possibilities of the radio. And now that' s back again and
- 26:15we call it Podcast, which I find formidable, because suddenly we already have
- 26:18the whole market. Only there' s no reason for those who believe that
- 26:22podcast is the radiofonic reality and the other is already dead. It' s
- 26:26not part of the same thing. In fishing you already have fishing or fresh
- 26:29is that frozen fishing you can make, but that you have Here there is
- 26:33no one of the industry. If you mean he' s fed up with
- 26:36few conversationals, he can say nothing has happened. If you have an obligation
- 26:40to listen to them. Everyone would tell you, but at the moment no
- 26:42one had felt, since the younger youth no longer go to the radio,
- 26:47to look for the radio, they go to the podcast, well, as
- 26:49they go wherever they want. But what I' m telling you is that
- 26:53the chances of seeing so many death announcements, he dies on the radio,
- 26:59so he dies. I have not stopped attending burials that later it turns out
- 27:02that the dead you kill were in very good health. The reality is that
- 27:07you remember her, although she still didn' t touch me as a man
- 27:11of the profession, I don' t remember. When that radio that I
- 27:14told you before, which was a radio locked in the kitchen, suddenly disappeared,
- 27:18because it appeared on the radio, the radio that we now have as
- 27:23a stair on the radio this and for a while the listener disappeared, that
- 27:30is, the radio that had seen the listener always placed, had identified him
- 27:34in his house, in the family, at the kitchen table, there was
- 27:37suddenly where the listener was had lost the listener and from that apparent feeling of
- 27:41panic in the room, this is over. It turns out that he was
- 27:48now in the car, in the kitchen, in the short roadways he had
- 27:51never been able to be and suddenly appeared on the radio used in another way
- 27:56and acquired nothing more a dimension than he had never had before. And then
- 27:57now the radio is followed in one way or another, podcast or not podcast
- 28:02through the mobile, other metal or through whatever, but the communication game that
- 28:03goes through fashions by styles and by things remains the key to the play.
- 28:12I' ve always said. If anyone wants to know what the future is
- 28:17going to be like radio, that explains to me what society is like and
- 28:18that gives me ten minutes. If you explain to me what society is like
- 28:22and you measure ten minutes, I tell you we go radio, because it
- 28:25adapts like a glove in one hand, gets up without any difficulty. So,
- 28:27of course, it may not have anything to do with the structures we
- 28:30know. I don' t guarantee that there' s going to be the
- 28:34SER or the COPE or the BBC or idea for the best. No,
- 28:37no, I don' t know what' s gonna exist. I don
- 28:38' t know if it' s going to deserve independent public, but everything
- 28:41else is, but it can disappear or this, the rest, can disappear.
- 28:45But it will be done and I don' t know how it will
- 28:47be done? But I don' t even know if they' ll call
- 28:49him a radio, but that' s what we see on the radio.
- 28:52I remember when the television began, the morning television, they said the radio
- 28:56is over and the aim is no more. But what takes place is also
- 29:03transformations. Right now, a very successful TV show now has a million viewers.
- 29:11This until very few years ago had so many more. I' ve
- 29:14distributed in other ways. Eh it makes another sense, another value, because
- 29:17look, if there is transformation, is that we that start being a radio
- 29:19program, that we pass through one station and then we pass through another station.
- 29:22In the end we have ended up setting up a podcast, which is
- 29:26a radio program that at the same time is this space that at the same
- 29:29time has a study that to proclaim the Republic within the monarchy you notice an
- 29:36absolute creativity, absolute creativity and I believe that this must be inaugurated. I
- 29:37' m not happy that I mentioned that, because he' s late author
- 29:41looking for a perfect scissors for Iñaki, who now opens more stuff with mayor.
- 29:45Why have I seen you out there how you have to cut off what
- 29:48I' ve seen you inaugurate a lot of things and I have a perfect
- 29:51scissors for You and I have the tape. I got the tape. We
- 29:52' re going to inaugurate this swamp. Too bad I thought I was bringing
- 29:56something else. You wanted to cut something because we have guillotine. As you
- 30:02know, the whole Republic has been based on a guillotine. Is it a
- 30:04good invention, the best invention Europe has had in the last two centuries?
- 30:07Yeah, three centuries. Well, what do I remind you of this swamp?
- 30:11I have to say, you can say, this swamp is open.
- 30:14Please stick to the mic because this is going to be recorded for posterity.
- 30:17He can already say a few words, because of the baptism of the creature.
- 30:22I know you want to tell him dear posterity. I' ll get
- 30:26you in the name of the north, the south, the east and the
- 30:29west. Brava, eda inaugurated this swamp. But good and this you tire
- 30:53San John g his sas s h I chi Hi what are neither the musical
- 33:52surprise for singing herms Sun as did the plasm we performed years ago in a
- 34:00unemployment office. It was almost as exciting to live it back as when I
- 34:05saw it on video the first time. I, by then was not yet
- 34:07here for those who have not seen it, can still be found on YouTube
- 34:12putting flashmop office of the raw meat stop, as this was almost the same.
- 34:15But with the musicians of variety of Azafran who also performed at the party,
- 34:19giving a hilarious concert, but missing it go to you. We leave
- 34:22with it very good afternoon, dear friends and friends of raw meat. Of
- 34:30justice, that a place like this is a place for music and for us
- 34:37varieties azafran is an honor, a pride that we have been called to make
- 34:45a few coplites, inaugurate this wonderful space, this independent republic. We are
- 34:54very chaste, we are great valtors of the roads of this city. And
- 35:01well, in our task of internationalizing and disseminating all our values, our chairs
- 35:07and also to help sell this city to international tourism, a question that is
- 35:14much needed and strongly supported by that town council by the Community. We composed
- 35:20chotis and in a mortal leap, we composed, we created the first chotis
- 35:25in Shakespeare' s noble language in English, it is a subject called chotis
- 35:34your name that we intend to interpret. Here is plenty of room to dance
- 35:40or T or The play O O O O O O O O O The
- 38:00city of partners Son, The lit Solf, The Down Town, The The
- 38:20st Crown On, t My Like or D O O O W Silver street
- 39:15ay good shows the Real This too much thanks for its very wide audience of
- 39:35raw meat. The following song is a genre that we practice a lot,
- 39:39because we really like tango. The tango for what it has always has in
- 39:45mind a nostalgia for something that is lost is a tango very tango and speaks
- 39:53of something that little by little. We' re losing visual acuity. We
- 40:00are in a moment of life in which to sing to what is before us
- 40:04and we see it becoming more and more cloudy. It' s called MM
- 40:31presbyopia. But my master noticed that for a while there has been something strange
- 40:40about my way of acting. I look like I' m missing like I
- 40:46' m running away from this body. I live in limbo where no one
- 40:50else is to the neighbors. We greeted on the street the acquaintances always so
- 40:59why of this attitude between the latter and the desair that I wanted to be
- 41:06the air more seems from desperate I sheltered in the reading and earth the book
- 41:15Spenas comment I am tired of inventing so many things. It will be that
- 41:22the worst rose if I don' t understand the half proves tired, chased,
- 41:37must look so much and see nothing. Proebidlia seen tired. Now you
- 41:43know what I mean. This look provided tired life, letter, small,
- 41:52not fragrant on a paper with the look of the cast cats, before the
- 42:20mockery of the whore. Reality is worth a thousand words, my vowels are
- 42:27free, my second unit and self- medication with prospects murderer buys food that
- 42:37I do not intend to consume paying properties that are abusive, because sometimes I
- 42:45can not see even the obsolete and to me the questos rachinando the look and
- 42:52long the arm, pulling away the jar. Sometimes I think that nothing happens
- 42:58to me and it is the world that spends so much rotating for it.
- 43:06Brevitia, tired vein, you' re going to get out of so much
- 43:17looking good, not seeing anything, previdia, tired vein. Now you know
- 43:23he' s hiding such a Brevitia look, all tired. Letran small,
- 43:31do not coracan a father in arazafran We are very given to the galleries of
- 43:46urban idols, galleries as I would say that I eat of neighborhood superheroes and
- 43:54among all and all of them we have on our altar to the mutan,
- 44:01because who has drunk on the trail in a room without elevator and has run
- 44:05out of chocolate someday in the morning knows what it is of him. That
- 44:09character in this song is called the last butanero. The last boater will arrive
- 44:31in the last neighborhood of tomorrow scaring the stars in his path with the echo
- 44:43of honey brass, bells or health dana de leco the silence that comes out
- 44:52of the portals, the walks of an dawned magpie and the first two dogs
- 45:01of the street and big God silvandona. A sharp t like a toothpick will
- 45:12enter the inner courtyard. Come look for your last customers tonando their mop whoranos
- 45:35a fourth port any way through the courtyard of lights cheers up that is peace
- 45:46masters. The last hooker, like a triumphant atlas with his waiting on his
- 45:58bona fide and right back, walks into the ladder. I take money pours
- 46:12out each step as one less, each carrying his cross. In this life.
- 46:20The chocolates are his Nazarene cross and whistling the arrow of who is not
- 46:30will see affection or propensity. It goes with sun color route, will bend
- 46:40with its truck the last corner the usual cast and then the skies will open
- 47:04and a great angelic choir of cherubs will ask for four butanero chocolates while the
- 47:28harps and clarinet sound. It will bring down the infinite a ladder in three
- 47:40perfumed clouds of whoranus. It' ll be just like the last butanero.
- 47:50It will leave the mortal world of humans. No good, good varieties to
- 49:42good fran, friends and friends. And to close this little intervention, let
- 49:55' s touch on a very special theme. Let' s explain ourselves first
- 50:00We are very happy to be here in the Republic of Crude Meat. We
- 50:05' ve been through all the places where raw meat was in your history.
- 50:08That' s where we' ve been. We have intervened some time before,
- 50:12and perhaps our intervention in the program the most memorable, the one we
- 50:16remember most with affection, was one that was not in any of the places
- 50:20it was on the phone from our house and it was in those strange months
- 50:27that all of us were in the pandemic. We had made a song that
- 50:31Javier and his people premiered with great affection and decided that we wanted to improvise
- 50:37in that Saint Isidro, which was not a raw meat chotis. And it
- 50:40' s a very peculiar song that wasn' t released on cassette, CD
- 50:45or mp three, because it premiered on the phone, like the stories of
- 50:58shooting with all of you today, with all of you, and besides,
- 51:00we expect you to make us many choruses. When we say that little done,
- 51:05they have to say eye that half raw, bey oburo and the chotis
- 51:15called little made half raw, the raw chotis of raw meat. Original version
- 51:35in my mind there is no confinement, because I don' t care a
- 51:40pepper that I have buried while I have well opened in the window, a
- 51:50coffee in the morning and the raw meat next to it, which is arraqueo
- 51:55eat ahol that itches that this radio doesn' t criticize so or believes it
- 52:05opinion a program with spark and good vibe songs that are the monda with guts
- 52:09and heart. Or half raw bribery against funnel law with decency and rock and
- 52:21roll? Ogo made half raw already shined the guillotine put on the door of
- 52:31the sun? Little fact of giving raw this hypogram is paid by the one
- 52:43who lights the transistor and in a world in which cacl goes his own,
- 52:49I tell you with pride I will become producer. Oco made half raw against
- 53:00funnel law with since encierrock and roll? Or half raw bribe already shines guillotine?
- 53:14Just the door of the sun or bribe, I raw this programmed roams
- 53:24you here in the good of the transistor and in a world in the cacaulva
- 53:31to your own. I tell them with the rogullo I' m going to
- 53:37become a producer. Yes, sir, but let' s have a good
- 53:40time, uh, violet, well, well, it' s a shame
- 53:46we won' t record karaoke later, too I' m telling you things
- 53:46happened. Yes, but what happens in the Republic in the late hours stays
- 53:50the Republic a pity that they cannot enjoy your version of Nino Bravo. No,
- 53:54it' s already been enjoyed by the neighbor who calls the police.
- 53:58But that' s another story. So I' ll say, as he
- 54:00told the officers that oak, a party isn' t a full party,
- 54:05whole and well party if you don' t sing to Nino Bravo. That
- 54:07' s true too. So I hope you enjoyed the party and have a
- 54:10good party this weekend, but don' t leave yet, because there'
- 54:15s still more. There will be more parties next March 6th. Of the
- 54:19listeners who put more for the Republic will collect their gift a visit to our
- 54:22study at the inauguration that we owe them will be next March 6th, as
- 54:27I said, will be with Alberto San Juan and the band that accompanies him
- 54:30in his last male show screams. That party will also be broadcast the next
- 54:36day, March 7. The one that we like a party, we like
- 54:38very much come let' s go health and Republic and that the radio accompanies
- 54:45you s s s o