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- 0:07Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Wherever you're joining us from, I'm Eric Shellhouse alongside me
- 0:13Speaker 2: Spencer Nusbaum of The Athletic and Kevin Franzen, the color
- 0:16Speaker 2: commentary and also field analysts for the Washington Nationals. Coming
- 0:20Speaker 2: off of one of their best games of the season
- 0:22Speaker 2: last night, I'm trying to think.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Of one word for this on the way over.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Awesome, epic baller, really just one of their best collective
- 0:31Speaker 2: wins of the season. But Franny, what's one word from
- 0:34Speaker 2: your experience down there in the camera?
- 0:35Speaker 3: Well last night, oh man, one word?
- 0:42Speaker 1: Maybe three? I just used three so you can get.
- 0:44Speaker 4: No I know, but I'm just saying, like one word
- 0:46Speaker 4: to describe it. Telling, patient, I mean, the offense was
- 0:55Speaker 4: very telling. Telling was telling was everything because it's like
- 0:59Speaker 4: they let everybody know that they could do this, that
- 1:02Speaker 4: they can handle a little adversity from the night before, right,
- 1:07Speaker 4: because this has happened a few times now where you've
- 1:10Speaker 4: had some late inning, you know, comebacks, or.
- 1:15Speaker 3: Just a bad game overall.
- 1:17Speaker 4: Right, defensively, and then to come back out.
- 1:21Speaker 3: It's very telling that there there's a lot of.
- 1:28Speaker 4: I don't you know the exact word to use, but
- 1:30Speaker 4: just uh, the attention to detail on certain things that
- 1:34Speaker 4: were you know, very noticeable, Like you know, I go
- 1:38Speaker 4: to a mistake that was not compounded into a bigger mistake,
- 1:41Speaker 4: but you know CJ being in the right spot on
- 1:44Speaker 4: a on a double play ball. Ah, that was the
- 1:48Speaker 4: scene was supposed to be covering, but Louis didn't allow
- 1:51Speaker 4: it to happen. And by that it's telling me because
- 1:54Speaker 4: it just shows where they're at as far as one
- 1:57Speaker 4: day mistake not happening leading into the next day, and
- 2:00Speaker 4: then from there they're correcting it, they're being ahead of
- 2:04Speaker 4: they're getting ahead of things, and it's very telling.
- 2:07Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:08Speaker 2: Top of the eighth inning, that was one of the
- 2:09Speaker 2: most bizarre plays I think I've ever seen. But a
- 2:12Speaker 2: credit to SKJ to show how mentally locked in he
- 2:15Speaker 2: is right now to finish the play and to still
- 2:17Speaker 2: get one out there. Spencer, can you even pinpoint one
- 2:21Speaker 2: word for yesterday's eleven to four victory?
- 2:24Speaker 5: Yeah, Actually, even though you didn't bring this up ahead
- 2:27Speaker 5: of time, it's something I had thought about. The word
- 2:29Speaker 5: I'd use is comprehensive. I think that might be the
- 2:32Speaker 5: most well rounded win you've seen this year, or if
- 2:35Speaker 5: that wasn't the one's close to it. Again, as Franny said,
- 2:40Speaker 5: the way that they fix their mistakes is obviously a
- 2:43Speaker 5: big point that I would make, But even beyond that,
- 2:47Speaker 5: that's probably one of the best pitching performances we've seen
- 2:50Speaker 5: out of a NAT starter this year, one of the
- 2:53Speaker 5: probably better managed games in terms of what you see
- 2:58Speaker 5: out there in the sixth and how they're able to
- 2:59Speaker 5: handle at offensively. You know, this offensive has been great.
- 3:04Speaker 5: So I don't know that letting the Braves throw a
- 3:07Speaker 5: ton of pitch like waist pitches throughout the game is
- 3:10Speaker 5: something that I necessarily say is an outlier, But I
- 3:14Speaker 5: think it's good that they let those pitches go by.
- 3:18Speaker 5: You got to give them credit at least for that,
- 3:21Speaker 5: you know. And I just think there wasn't really a
- 3:24Speaker 5: facet of the game where you looked at it and said, hey,
- 3:26Speaker 5: like they need to make big strides here, and just
- 3:29Speaker 5: kind of as a larger point here, I think when
- 3:32Speaker 5: you looked at the Nats of twenty twenty four and
- 3:33Speaker 5: twenty twenty five, so much of it was they would
- 3:37Speaker 5: have games like this, but they wouldn't either necessarily be
- 3:40Speaker 5: able to build on it, or you'd see the peak,
- 3:43Speaker 5: but then a week later you'd see a pretty hard fall.
- 3:46Speaker 5: And so something that I'm really focusing in on is
- 3:49Speaker 5: You're not going to get this comprehensive effort every night,
- 3:51Speaker 5: But can you get a couple more starts like Foster had?
- 3:54Speaker 5: Can you keep the offense rolling a little longer? Defensively?
- 3:58Speaker 5: Can you go three or four games in a row
- 4:00Speaker 5: without you know, two or three big mistakes. But I
- 4:04Speaker 5: think this is a fantastic starting point for the team
- 4:07Speaker 5: as far as maybe going on a little bit of
- 4:09Speaker 5: a run here, I feel like I've.
- 4:11Speaker 4: I've done this like open so many times on TV
- 4:14Speaker 4: where it's like great, you know, like last night was awesome,
- 4:18Speaker 4: but can you do it again?
- 4:21Speaker 3: You know?
- 4:21Speaker 4: And it's that you don't have to have the same
- 4:23Speaker 4: exact repeat performance. But look, if they can make those
- 4:28Speaker 4: adjustments that they've they've shown they've made on the offensive
- 4:31Speaker 4: side of times, can they go back to back games.
- 4:37Speaker 3: Not giving in to a picture because.
- 4:39Speaker 4: So many times in the past I would and I
- 4:44Speaker 4: stress I don't want to continue to say in the past,
- 4:46Speaker 4: but it's true it's the past.
- 4:49Speaker 3: They wouldn't make these adjustments.
- 4:51Speaker 4: They would they would go in the first thing and
- 4:52Speaker 4: they go, you know what, two three runs, let's say,
- 4:56Speaker 4: and then let the picture off the hook almost virtually,
- 4:59Speaker 4: kind of like how much Day Night was right where
- 5:02Speaker 4: they had Bryce elder on on the ropes and they couldn't.
- 5:06Speaker 3: Put them away.
- 5:07Speaker 4: And I'm I'm with you, Spance, like I think that, man,
- 5:11Speaker 4: I just want to see this moving forward as far
- 5:13Speaker 4: as a couple more days of it, right and seeing
- 5:15Speaker 4: if you can go from there and build, keep on building.
- 5:18Speaker 4: You know they always say build the good days, like
- 5:20Speaker 4: keep on, keep on, keep on stacking the good days,
- 5:24Speaker 4: stack another one of these.
- 5:27Speaker 5: And I think if you even look back at the
- 5:30Speaker 5: numbers last year, I think the last time I looked
- 5:33Speaker 5: was last August. So it's possibly in a great September
- 5:35Speaker 5: to change this. But the fourth and fifth inning last
- 5:38Speaker 5: year offensively was a disaster because they weren't some of
- 5:42Speaker 5: those adjustments, right, yeah, yeah, And so if they're able
- 5:45Speaker 5: to make those mid game adjustments like they've at least
- 5:49Speaker 5: seemed to so far, I mean, they're the best offensive
- 5:51Speaker 5: baseball right now. I mean that's something I'm paying such
- 5:54Speaker 5: close attention to total on Thursday than Chris Sale, like
- 5:58Speaker 5: that is a guy who is is impossible to adjust
- 6:00Speaker 5: to and so if they can do that, that tells me, hey,
- 6:03Speaker 5: like that's a different sort of benchmark.
- 6:05Speaker 4: Well here's another thing too, to Chris Salle, like they
- 6:07Speaker 4: got traject. Now they're gonna have guys able to see them.
- 6:11Speaker 4: Does it mean they're gonna hit him, No, but they're
- 6:14Speaker 4: gonna have they have the little tech pieces that could
- 6:18Speaker 4: help them get out there see him well before get
- 6:22Speaker 4: an idea, because we know he ate a machine.
- 6:26Speaker 3: He's just as good as a machine, Billy, he ate
- 6:28Speaker 3: a machine.
- 6:30Speaker 2: There's there's so many things to talk about, and last
- 6:33Speaker 2: night's came my opinion. I mean, they really did so
- 6:35Speaker 2: many things well and like you said, you look at
- 6:37Speaker 2: like this this or beg your pardon for those of
- 6:40Speaker 2: us watching online. That was pitching. Now we have the
- 6:42Speaker 2: hitting box score top to bottom. Everyone was making contributions
- 6:46Speaker 2: last night. And I think he got started, you know,
- 6:49Speaker 2: with good pitching, a one, two three top of the
- 6:51Speaker 2: first thing from Foster Griffin. And then in the bottom
- 6:53Speaker 2: of first the Nats allowed Lopez to kind of make
- 6:56Speaker 2: his mistakes. Jacob Young got the offense going with the
- 6:58Speaker 2: base hit early on. He would eventually where was he hitting?
- 7:02Speaker 2: He was hitting third in the lineup, a great decision
- 7:05Speaker 2: by Puteria and then takes third the center field. They
- 7:08Speaker 2: were just running with their hairs on fire in the
- 7:10Speaker 2: first couple of innings, their four solen bases over the
- 7:13Speaker 2: course of the game. But I really think getting Foster
- 7:16Speaker 2: and early three nothing lead allowed him to settle in
- 7:18Speaker 2: a little bit more.
- 7:19Speaker 1: Did you notice that as well, Franny.
- 7:23Speaker 4: No, because I I just just just be honest. This
- 7:26Speaker 4: is my my perspective on him after his few few
- 7:31Speaker 4: starts here. I don't think Scordon dictates anything for him.
- 7:37Speaker 4: He's gonna be who he is. He has a seven
- 7:39Speaker 4: pitch mix that he uses all seven pitches to all
- 7:41Speaker 4: seven or to all batters, righty lefties, And I think
- 7:46Speaker 4: it just I think you watch someone that knows himself
- 7:49Speaker 4: better than.
- 7:49Speaker 3: Most right just because he had inexperienced in the big leagues.
- 7:53Speaker 4: He's he went to Japan and understood how to scout
- 7:57Speaker 4: for himself, how to prepare for himself and not have,
- 8:02Speaker 4: you know, have other people do it for him. And
- 8:05Speaker 4: he learned and you could just see it on the mountain,
- 8:08Speaker 4: like the confidence that he has and what he wants
- 8:10Speaker 4: to do. And I was telling Zim last night on
- 8:12Speaker 4: air was like, what I see from this perspective on
- 8:15Speaker 4: the side was the confidence of I could read this
- 8:19Speaker 4: guy's swing. I got him, you know.
- 8:23Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:24Speaker 2: I asked that question almost like as in a Devil's
- 8:27Speaker 2: advocate kind of way, because in the first inning, in
- 8:29Speaker 2: the sixth inning, he looks like the exact same guy.
- 8:31Speaker 2: And we'll get to the sixth inning later on and
- 8:34Speaker 2: whether or not that was a bu taih we're a
- 8:35Speaker 2: preordained decision or in the moment to let him face
- 8:38Speaker 2: du Bond for a third time. But yeah, he looks
- 8:41Speaker 2: like the same guy from the first bat of the
- 8:43Speaker 2: game to the final start of the game. And I
- 8:45Speaker 2: think that's one of the most telling things about him
- 8:47Speaker 2: as a player, is that he approaches every batter like
- 8:50Speaker 2: it's an O ball game, like he's there to get
- 8:52Speaker 2: him out. He doesn't care what the score, right, and
- 8:54Speaker 2: I absolutely love it. The offense kept on clicking well.
- 8:58Speaker 2: The Braves responded in the top of the second they
- 9:00Speaker 2: got to run back on back to back two out levels,
- 9:02Speaker 2: but the Nats responded in the bomb half of the inning.
- 9:05Speaker 3: James would.
- 9:07Speaker 2: On the broadcast the other night, you were saying right
- 9:10Speaker 2: handers hit balls like this to the left field bullpen,
- 9:12Speaker 2: not lefties. This kid is just so special. Is eighth
- 9:16Speaker 2: home run in the season, Spencer. He is clicking so
- 9:19Speaker 2: different right now. But what's working?
- 9:23Speaker 5: Everything? Everything is working right now. How often do you
- 9:27Speaker 5: see a guy walk four times in one game? And also,
- 9:29Speaker 5: homer doesn't happen often. The I guess the biggest thing
- 9:35Speaker 5: that I've paid attention to with James right now is
- 9:38Speaker 5: the fact that teams are starting to make those small
- 9:42Speaker 5: adjustments to him. And again, with James, they're always going
- 9:45Speaker 5: to be locked in on that scouting report. But right
- 9:46Speaker 5: now it's a lot of breaking balls away and what
- 9:49Speaker 5: he's doing is he's either spinning on those or if
- 9:51Speaker 5: they're left too far inside, he's able to do damage
- 9:54Speaker 5: on them. This is a player who you know. When
- 9:58Speaker 5: I ask Blake in spring training a little bit about
- 10:00Speaker 5: James and his ability to make adjustments, he said that,
- 10:03Speaker 5: you know what, is one of the best he's ever
- 10:05Speaker 5: seen in terms of making adjustments from one game to
- 10:07Speaker 5: the next. The next step in his game was being
- 10:10Speaker 5: able to make it from one at bat to the next.
- 10:13Speaker 5: And I think when you see him do that within
- 10:15Speaker 5: games like this, when you see teams constantly bring in
- 10:20Speaker 5: new pitchers to face him every time he's on deck.
- 10:23Speaker 5: This is someone who needs to make those adjustments. And
- 10:25Speaker 5: I think that that's all we've seen this season, at
- 10:28Speaker 5: least since April started, as his ability to make those
- 10:31Speaker 5: specific adjustments hit the ball the other way. This is
- 10:34Speaker 5: the This is the James that you know we saw
- 10:36Speaker 5: in the first half last year, and I think it's
- 10:38Speaker 5: honestly a better version right now.
- 10:42Speaker 4: A yeah, guys, I don't know if you went back
- 10:44Speaker 4: and watched the highlights at all, but he hit that
- 10:47Speaker 4: ball and I started laughing.
- 10:50Speaker 3: Is again yeah, like my.
- 10:52Speaker 4: My one of my main reasons of wanting to do that,
- 10:55Speaker 4: like be on the side in the camera roll by
- 10:57Speaker 4: first base, was I just wanted to watch James from
- 10:59Speaker 4: the level. Seriously. I told that to Ryan Spielboorgs, who
- 11:03Speaker 4: does the Colorado Rocky games. Just get an idea about
- 11:06Speaker 4: like you know what what to look for as far
- 11:08Speaker 4: as you know, it's different being on the side. He's
- 11:10Speaker 4: always there. And I told him, he goes, what are
- 11:13Speaker 4: you looking forward to him? Like James saying James from
- 11:15Speaker 4: that level, and it's just it's comical, Like the ball
- 11:18Speaker 4: got off that pad. I was like, oh, my god,
- 11:21Speaker 4: and you start laughing. And by the time you start laughing,
- 11:24Speaker 4: they're like mid chuckle. It just it hammers off that
- 11:27Speaker 4: back wall and you're going like, oh my god. But yeah,
- 11:30Speaker 4: like the adjustments are real with him. And I don't
- 11:33Speaker 4: know how you guys feel about this, but like that's
- 11:34Speaker 4: second inning, right, so you get the couple runs. I
- 11:37Speaker 4: still feel like they let Renald the Lopez off the
- 11:39Speaker 4: hook in that first inning, you know, and uh, you
- 11:44Speaker 4: bat through, you know, bat all nine and that and that,
- 11:47Speaker 4: and you get to the top of us or the
- 11:48Speaker 4: bottom of the second and you're going, is there a
- 11:50Speaker 4: better guy than Dames to have up there?
- 11:54Speaker 3: And in my mind, because of the.
- 11:57Speaker 4: This is where we've gone as far as the pass is,
- 11:59Speaker 4: Like that first thing happens, that's second inning. Whoa, I
- 12:02Speaker 4: don't know how that happened. But the one thing that
- 12:07Speaker 4: happens is I don't know, patience.
- 12:13Speaker 5: There we go.
- 12:15Speaker 2: Patience, I think is the key, like you said, the
- 12:17Speaker 2: Braves pitching had And I should give a credit to
- 12:20Speaker 2: the Nats hitting twelve walks over the course of this game,
- 12:23Speaker 2: which I believe is a tide or sorry second in
- 12:26Speaker 2: franchise history since the team moved here in two thousand
- 12:28Speaker 2: and five, they made Braves pitching throw two hundred and
- 12:31Speaker 2: one pitches over eight innings. I mean they were just
- 12:33Speaker 2: extremely patient and waited for their pitches to attack in
- 12:37Speaker 2: this game real quickly. Before we take a break, I
- 12:39Speaker 2: just need to take a look at James Wood's catch
- 12:41Speaker 2: here that he made in the top of the third
- 12:43Speaker 2: inning after that home run. This thing belongs on a
- 12:45Speaker 2: baseball card. For those of you watching online, you're going
- 12:48Speaker 2: to get one more look at it here when he
- 12:50Speaker 2: is full extension here, Franny. These are simply plays that
- 12:54Speaker 2: most players cannot make.
- 12:58Speaker 4: No look, I think his play best play wasn't even
- 13:02Speaker 4: that one. It was Monday Night too, with the sinking
- 13:04Speaker 4: line drive off Ozzie Albi's and his I don't know.
- 13:09Speaker 3: His reactions to.
- 13:10Speaker 4: The right field have been have been so good and
- 13:13Speaker 4: so confident. I should say, does it make him an
- 13:19Speaker 4: elite outfielder. Yet, No, it doesn't, because it's part of
- 13:23Speaker 4: experience and getting there, and he's on his way.
- 13:26Speaker 3: To being a really, really good right fielder.
- 13:28Speaker 4: Though on one of them going straight back that you're going,
- 13:34Speaker 4: I mean he was. He had the right depth the
- 13:36Speaker 4: entire time. It's just a ball was hammered right like
- 13:39Speaker 4: he wasn't gonna get to it, but seeing his alignment
- 13:41Speaker 4: and he wasn't zig zagging on his turns.
- 13:43Speaker 3: He was think about like a six six sixty seven guy.
- 13:47Speaker 4: You know, it's easy to get off flying and sway
- 13:50Speaker 4: away from your your alignment on it on a ball
- 13:52Speaker 4: over head, and he didn't, and it was it was
- 13:54Speaker 4: sweet to see, absolutely.
- 13:57Speaker 5: And I've even had people ask me in the past,
- 13:59Speaker 5: you know, do you think James as the first baseman?
- 14:02Speaker 5: Do you think he's better suited there? I simply think
- 14:05Speaker 5: we're way too early in his career to be moving
- 14:08Speaker 5: him around. And even I talked to Corey Ray a
- 14:11Speaker 5: little bit about this the other day, not about the
- 14:13Speaker 5: first base aspect, but about Wood kind of learning how
- 14:17Speaker 5: to play out there and getting comfortable in right field,
- 14:19Speaker 5: and he said, hey, like you look at Jacob's reads,
- 14:21Speaker 5: they're fantastic. You look at Dalen's reads, they've they've gotten
- 14:24Speaker 5: a lot better this season. With James, there's been there's
- 14:27Speaker 5: been absolute improvement. But he's the one where he feels like, hey,
- 14:31Speaker 5: we're still figuring out the pre pitch more than what
- 14:33Speaker 5: those other two guys and we're still figuring out the reactions,
- 14:36Speaker 5: and so the fact that you've seen him basically have
- 14:39Speaker 5: these kind of league average reads, which again is kind
- 14:41Speaker 5: of what you want out of a fantastic hitter. The
- 14:44Speaker 5: fact that they feel there's still more room to grow
- 14:46Speaker 5: there tells me there's no reason to be putting him
- 14:48Speaker 5: in at first base anytime soon.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Agree.
- 14:52Speaker 2: I remember people ask me the same thing. Oh, he's
- 14:54Speaker 2: so tall, just stick him at first base. He'll be
- 14:55Speaker 2: able to grab over those high throws.
- 14:57Speaker 3: No, we're not. It ain't that easy. No easy, guys.
- 15:02Speaker 2: Heck no, We're going to take a quick break for
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- 16:17Speaker 1: And we are back.
- 16:20Speaker 2: That was incredible play by James as we were just discussing.
- 16:22Speaker 2: But the braves, We're not just going to roll over
- 16:24Speaker 2: that easily great offense home runs from Drake Baldwin. I
- 16:27Speaker 2: don't know how he scooped that ball up and hit
- 16:29Speaker 2: out four into thirty eight feet Eli White his Speedway
- 16:32Speaker 2: classic legend. All of a sudden, it's a four to
- 16:35Speaker 2: three game. But Luis Garcia had an answer for that.
- 16:37Speaker 2: He had a career night, four hits for him, a
- 16:39Speaker 2: career high, making it a five to three game. Then
- 16:42Speaker 2: we get to the top of the sixth inning, we're
- 16:44Speaker 2: going to bring up the final pitching line because this
- 16:46Speaker 2: was definitely a discussion in a part of me that
- 16:51Speaker 2: should be Tuesday Night's box scoring, no Wednesday's box score.
- 16:54Speaker 1: But either way, there.
- 17:00Speaker 2: The people watching at home, this is I mean, this
- 17:02Speaker 2: is a thing of beauty. Looking at the names that
- 17:04Speaker 2: they used, Fosster griffinto three and zero on the season
- 17:07Speaker 2: with the three thirty eight era, and at the top
- 17:09Speaker 2: of the sixth inning there was a moment where he
- 17:11Speaker 2: came to face Marusio Dubon. We flip over my box
- 17:15Speaker 2: score really quickly. With two outs and a man on second,
- 17:19Speaker 2: Blake Dutara went out to the mound. He didn't motion
- 17:21Speaker 2: to the bullpen and he let him face them. He
- 17:23Speaker 2: got the ground out to second and got a six innings,
- 17:26Speaker 2: which is really big in the stretch that the Nets
- 17:28Speaker 2: are going through right now with no off days to
- 17:30Speaker 2: give the bullpen even just one or two more extra
- 17:33Speaker 2: batters for any What can you say about his effort
- 17:37Speaker 2: last night and what that does for the pitching staff
- 17:39Speaker 2: Over the next how many games it is.
- 17:42Speaker 3: Well, it sucks that we're celebrating six innings.
- 17:45Speaker 4: Number one. I think that needs to be first and foremost.
- 17:47Speaker 4: Number two. Riso Dubon had hammered two balls already on him, right,
- 17:52Speaker 4: So I think that there was truth behind that, you know,
- 17:56Speaker 4: leaving him in. And I say truth because that wasn't planned,
- 18:05Speaker 4: you know, Like I was talking about trying to think about,
- 18:06Speaker 4: like was there if there's.
- 18:07Speaker 3: A guy on, does he face you know, Mauricio?
- 18:10Speaker 4: Guy gets on and you're like, no chance, and then
- 18:13Speaker 4: he comes out and it's like just watching Blake and
- 18:16Speaker 4: trying to get used to the kiss cadence of what
- 18:18Speaker 4: he's gonna do.
- 18:19Speaker 3: It started to like set in.
- 18:22Speaker 4: He's not gonna take him out right now, and you
- 18:25Speaker 4: get just sense in a dugout too, Like that was
- 18:27Speaker 4: the part of the boys were like here we go,
- 18:30Speaker 4: you know, and you started to get fired up, and
- 18:32Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, that's a good builder. But uh,
- 18:35Speaker 4: I think more importantly it was the guy that got
- 18:37Speaker 4: on twice, you know, that hammer two balls against some
- 18:39Speaker 4: like two good pitches too. It wasn't like it was
- 18:42Speaker 4: like middle middle like Dubon and Eli White hit some
- 18:45Speaker 4: pitchers pitches, uh, you know for extra base hits that
- 18:49Speaker 4: I look at him like, all right, this is good
- 18:52Speaker 4: and and for Blake it's a big moment. I don't
- 18:55Speaker 4: he's not seeking I don't see Blake trying to win
- 18:59Speaker 4: over people like the fan. He's trying to win over
- 19:02Speaker 4: his team. And he sensed the guy that he had
- 19:04Speaker 4: the right guy on the mound. It wasn't from like
- 19:08Speaker 4: the previous night, like people that were hammering, you know,
- 19:11Speaker 4: Jake not being left in. I'm like, he just walked
- 19:14Speaker 4: and hit a guy like and you're getting into two, three,
- 19:18Speaker 4: four against Baldwin, Olsen and Riley that you're like, no,
- 19:22Speaker 4: no thanks, you know, like in that situation.
- 19:24Speaker 1: Third time around ten.
- 19:26Speaker 4: Yeah, and I look at it with you know, Mauricio
- 19:29Speaker 4: Dubond where they were in that lineup, I was like,
- 19:30Speaker 4: perfect time, nice job.
- 19:33Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I agree, execute a beautifully. I think a
- 19:36Speaker 2: lot of people wanted to see Jake go a little
- 19:38Speaker 2: further out. I think a lot of people's issue with that.
- 19:40Speaker 2: And I'll let you touch on this year at a
- 19:41Speaker 2: Spencer in a minute, Spencer, but I think people's issue
- 19:44Speaker 2: with Jake was he was a what eighty or eighty
- 19:46Speaker 2: one pitches and just the stretch the team is in,
- 19:48Speaker 2: the stretch that the team is in right now. They
- 19:50Speaker 2: would have liked to have seen a few more pitches
- 19:52Speaker 2: either starting pitcher to preserve the bullpen for this stretch.
- 19:55Speaker 2: But I think you Taror made the right decision, as
- 19:58Speaker 2: they said in the postgame press conference, was the decision
- 20:00Speaker 2: they had made before the inning even started. Hey, he's
- 20:03Speaker 2: going to face these guys and then that's it. Third
- 20:06Speaker 2: time through the lineup we get to these big batters,
- 20:08Speaker 2: we're going to turn it over. Last night, like Franny
- 20:10Speaker 2: just said, I think was the perfect situation to do it,
- 20:13Speaker 2: because Dubon is a great hitter, had two hits in
- 20:15Speaker 2: the game, but he then had a sense of a
- 20:17Speaker 2: game plan of maybe how can we attack this guy
- 20:20Speaker 2: and face them at differently. Okay, this is not work
- 20:22Speaker 2: twice tonight, what might work the third time here? Unfortunately
- 20:25Speaker 2: it did? Sorry, Spencer, No, I.
- 20:28Speaker 3: Mean that's perfectly put.
- 20:29Speaker 5: When we actually talked to Foster after the game, and
- 20:32Speaker 5: I mean the three of us as a group have
- 20:34Speaker 5: talked about Foster's ability to not let the hitter necessarily
- 20:38Speaker 5: dictate what he wants to do up there. That isn't
- 20:40Speaker 5: to belie anything though, about the fact that he can
- 20:43Speaker 5: read a hitter when he needs to. And he told
- 20:46Speaker 5: us after the game, he said, yeah, you know, I
- 20:48Speaker 5: knew Dubon was two for two against me, but that
- 20:51Speaker 5: also meant I knew how he wanted to get me.
- 20:54Speaker 5: He said, I knew that he wanted something on the
- 20:56Speaker 5: outside part of the plate, and he wanted something either
- 20:59Speaker 5: soft to pull or kind of hard the other way.
- 21:02Speaker 5: And so he opens him up with with a pitch
- 21:04Speaker 5: outside that gets filed off to test him, and then
- 21:07Speaker 5: he goes right inside knowing that, hey, he thinks, I'm
- 21:09Speaker 5: going to go right back there, and he you know,
- 21:11Speaker 5: that's the sort of thing where you know, has Foster
- 21:14Speaker 5: faced a big league line up in years, No, but
- 21:17Speaker 5: he's been one of the smartest pictures on the roster.
- 21:20Speaker 5: You ask Blake about him, and it feels like there's
- 21:23Speaker 5: a different adjective every time, whether it painter yesterday, assassin.
- 21:27Speaker 3: A couple starts to.
- 21:28Speaker 5: Go like there's just kind of a level of respect
- 21:31Speaker 5: I think between Blake and Foster, knowing what he's able
- 21:35Speaker 5: to do out there on the mound, the fact that
- 21:38Speaker 5: they let him call his own pitches you really kind
- 21:41Speaker 5: of get the sense that, like, hey, the Nationals are
- 21:44Speaker 5: managing games in more modern ways, but if you have
- 21:47Speaker 5: more of a throwback picture out there, who knows how
- 21:49Speaker 5: to get through proven it? And who even beyond that?
- 21:54Speaker 5: Just the emotional for six innings. I know, again for
- 21:58Speaker 5: any year, frustrated with maybe being the bar, but if
- 22:02Speaker 5: we're realistic about what this team has allowed people.
- 22:04Speaker 8: To do, I I'm frustra I'm frustrated with it that there,
- 22:11Speaker 8: I'm frustrated with it, but I'm also not It's not
- 22:14Speaker 8: an indictment.
- 22:15Speaker 4: It's just the game. Because I feel like you come
- 22:17Speaker 4: up in the game and you you have this understanding
- 22:19Speaker 4: like six is not it?
- 22:20Speaker 3: Right? Seven?
- 22:22Speaker 4: I'm in there's something about that, Like there's something about
- 22:26Speaker 4: the seven am mark, especially in these stretches right that
- 22:29Speaker 4: you want your guys to have.
- 22:33Speaker 3: So like it.
- 22:35Speaker 4: I love the modern game, Like don't get don't we
- 22:37Speaker 4: can't say it Inspescer's knows this from talking to me.
- 22:40Speaker 4: Like I love it, I love change, I love all that.
- 22:42Speaker 4: That's the little part that I do want to see,
- 22:45Speaker 4: like that it comes back every once in a while.
- 22:47Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be every time, but like that.
- 22:48Speaker 4: There's that want of getting through that seven having the
- 22:52Speaker 4: ability to have to think through it. And that's why
- 22:54Speaker 4: I think watching Foster makes you think it throwback, but
- 22:57Speaker 4: makes you think like I can get through three times
- 22:59Speaker 4: through or right. If you looked at his pitch mix
- 23:02Speaker 4: from last night, it's one of the most fascinating ones
- 23:05Speaker 4: because it's like it's twenty one cutters, nineteen sinkers, fifteen
- 23:09Speaker 4: change ups, thirteen splitters, twelve sweepers, ten four seamers, six
- 23:13Speaker 4: curve balls.
- 23:14Speaker 3: I mean, Zim and I were talking about it on.
- 23:17Speaker 2: Aer like, there's no one percent pitches, is what you
- 23:21Speaker 2: guys said? Oh, he uses all of them fairly. Yeah,
- 23:24Speaker 2: you're not eliminating stuff, right, right, How do you handle
- 23:27Speaker 2: a guy like this, whether you're a righty or a lefty,
- 23:30Speaker 2: Because every pitch is in play in every count, he
- 23:33Speaker 2: has the confidence to throw every pitch. I'm not gonna
- 23:35Speaker 2: say that for him, but it seems like he is
- 23:38Speaker 2: willing to throw any pitch in any count I think
- 23:41Speaker 2: that was evident when he walked Riley.
- 23:44Speaker 1: You know he didn't you know, didn't give him. Yeah,
- 23:47Speaker 1: he didn't give in there.
- 23:49Speaker 4: Yeah, and is Zim was always there's always like I
- 23:53Speaker 4: always like to associate it like golf right were you?
- 23:56Speaker 3: Like, the best thing that's happened in the last.
- 23:58Speaker 4: Couple of years has been where they get close enough
- 24:01Speaker 4: that you can hear the caddy and the player talk, right,
- 24:04Speaker 4: and they talk about where's my miss where's the miss
- 24:08Speaker 4: where's the safety zone on that right, Like if I
- 24:12Speaker 4: go there, there's trouble. Right, You can almost associate the
- 24:16Speaker 4: catcher and picture convo as being like the caddy and
- 24:20Speaker 4: the golfer talking, because it's like, know where your miss is.
- 24:22Speaker 3: And I feel like, even with Drew Millis.
- 24:24Speaker 4: Behind there, last night, I felt like Foster was in
- 24:27Speaker 4: such a great spot that he knew exactly.
- 24:29Speaker 3: Where his missus were, you know, like where is where's safety?
- 24:32Speaker 3: Where's my safety?
- 24:34Speaker 4: And he went to it and then you get right
- 24:36Speaker 4: back into where he wanted and it's just it's really
- 24:38Speaker 4: fun to watch him go through everything right, and just
- 24:42Speaker 4: how quickly he goes to his Pitchcolm, He's confident in
- 24:44Speaker 4: what he wants to do. He goes right there, boom,
- 24:46Speaker 4: here we go. Yeah, And I think.
- 24:49Speaker 5: I don't want to put here, I don't want to
- 24:51Speaker 5: put words in Foster's mouth, but I have asked him
- 24:55Speaker 5: about some of even the cultural differences of pitching over
- 24:58Speaker 5: in Japan versus pitching year, and one of the things
- 25:02Speaker 5: that he's talked about is kind of the communication barrier,
- 25:05Speaker 5: where like maybe in his third year over there, he
- 25:09Speaker 5: was able to have pretty consistent conversations with the catchers
- 25:12Speaker 5: and the pitching coaches. But I do think there's a
- 25:15Speaker 5: level of confidence you need to find in yourself when
- 25:18Speaker 5: you're over there, because you are again going through an interpreter.
- 25:23Speaker 5: You he felt like he had great teammates, but there's
- 25:26Speaker 5: also a sense when you're in another culture that you're
- 25:28Speaker 5: going through it alone a little bit, right, And I
- 25:30Speaker 5: think you kind of do need to find that sense
- 25:32Speaker 5: of self when you're over there. And again, I think
- 25:34Speaker 5: that's why when he comes back here and has the
- 25:37Speaker 5: assistance of a big league pitching coach and a staff
- 25:42Speaker 5: that can help him out, on top of that sense
- 25:44Speaker 5: of self he has within, I think that's why you've
- 25:47Speaker 5: seen such a dominant pitcher so far.
- 25:50Speaker 2: Yes, nice, Sure, and we get we got to keep
- 25:53Speaker 2: boom with the game recap or we're not going to
- 25:54Speaker 2: get dual thing. But I think as a biased Nats fan,
- 25:57Speaker 2: we got spoiled for so many years by so such
- 26:00Speaker 2: great pitching, that kind of being the forefront of this
- 26:03Speaker 2: team and seeing seven, eight, nine innings from those guys.
- 26:06Speaker 2: But six innings is a quality start in the box score.
- 26:09Speaker 2: And if you got three guys down there in the bullpen,
- 26:12Speaker 2: they can give you ten or fifteen pitches each night.
- 26:15Speaker 1: We don't have to worry about them.
- 26:16Speaker 3: But that's that's the thing.
- 26:18Speaker 4: Though, you talked about that bulls, that that thing, the
- 26:21Speaker 4: pitch efficiency has got to be better. Like getting through
- 26:27Speaker 4: the inning is one thing, right, we could talk about
- 26:29Speaker 4: that all day, love, but the bullpen's got to be
- 26:31Speaker 4: a little bit more efficient, right, give me too many stretches? Yeah, yeah,
- 26:37Speaker 4: but yeah, the that's held the braves quiet in the
- 26:40Speaker 4: sixth inning.
- 26:40Speaker 2: The nets went quiet in the sixth thing. And then
- 26:42Speaker 2: the seventh inning naturally started to tacking on as sorry,
- 26:44Speaker 2: with the leadoff walk from Curtis Meade who came in
- 26:47Speaker 2: off the bench, and Drew Millis the base knock and
- 26:49Speaker 2: James Wood the unintentional intentional or was that the true
- 26:52Speaker 2: to that was the unintentional intentional?
- 26:54Speaker 1: And the seventh inning and then.
- 26:56Speaker 2: They went they wanted nothing, nothing to do with him
- 27:00Speaker 2: there is smart. It's opened up the door for Luis
- 27:04Speaker 2: Garcia to have a huge double. Two runs would score
- 27:08Speaker 2: on this play. Wood was held at third base and
- 27:11Speaker 2: then would come in to score on this ground out
- 27:14Speaker 2: by Jacob Young, which ended up making it an eight
- 27:16Speaker 2: to three game going into the eighth inning. Definitely gave
- 27:19Speaker 2: the Nationals a little more confidence in breathing room going
- 27:21Speaker 2: into the eighth cl You know, battled got through that inning.
- 27:27Speaker 2: I think also, you know, you gotta get him some credit.
- 27:29Speaker 2: Let me see the batters he faced. This is the
- 27:30Speaker 2: meat of the lineup right here, right, two three, four.
- 27:33Speaker 1: Yeah. So you know, people, people like the bloggers the
- 27:36Speaker 1: other day saying oh he struggled, he struggled. I don't
- 27:38Speaker 1: think he struggled. He faced some of the best hitters
- 27:41Speaker 1: in MLB and he gave up one.
- 27:42Speaker 3: Bloggers, they're bloggers, they're bloggers. Yeah. So it really really quick,
- 27:47Speaker 3: really quick.
- 27:48Speaker 4: Did you guys, were you guys on the same page
- 27:49Speaker 4: as Ash Blake on that with he was going for
- 27:54Speaker 4: be bus Antenna on that he went, uh, Brady and
- 27:57Speaker 4: then and then Curtis right, yeah, And it shocked me
- 28:02Speaker 4: a little bit because we're used to seeing the Louis
- 28:04Speaker 4: part and Curtis, you know, be the platoon in that.
- 28:09Speaker 4: And that was fascinating too because he there's a confidence
- 28:11Speaker 4: level in Louis facing that lefty and I don't know
- 28:14Speaker 4: if it was more than now. I didn't talk to
- 28:16Speaker 4: Blake after the game about it, and maybe you guys did, Spence,
- 28:19Speaker 4: but like they I found that like whoa, okay, Like
- 28:24Speaker 4: there's Dylan Dodd was the LEFTI or or yeah, that
- 28:28Speaker 4: was Dylan Dodd.
- 28:29Speaker 3: And that one I think, right, yep, yep? And why him,
- 28:33Speaker 3: you know?
- 28:34Speaker 4: And and were they going to save Curtis or was
- 28:36Speaker 4: that always the plan?
- 28:37Speaker 3: You know? There's certain things.
- 28:38Speaker 4: That that was that's been fascinating trying to learn what
- 28:40Speaker 4: Blake's doing with this whole thing. But being down there
- 28:43Speaker 4: in that spot, like watching how early they got those
- 28:46Speaker 4: guys ready still fun to watch.
- 28:49Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 28:50Speaker 5: Well, I'd say the big thing there, and it's kind
- 28:53Speaker 5: of a constant push and pull that we'll talk about
- 28:55Speaker 5: all season, is the difference between playing matchups and playing
- 28:58Speaker 5: feel I think you've seen the news play matchups again
- 29:01Speaker 5: and again and again. I also don't think that there's
- 29:04Speaker 5: always necessarily a righty lefty, Like it's not an automatic
- 29:09Speaker 5: per se, although it sometimes feels like it. But I
- 29:12Speaker 5: think when you looked at what Louis had done in
- 29:15Speaker 5: the game up to that point, keeping him in and
- 29:19Speaker 5: then getting Curtis in there as well was a way
- 29:21Speaker 5: to say, hey, we still trust that matchup. We understand
- 29:24Speaker 5: what the Braves want to do, not only for the
- 29:26Speaker 5: rest of this game, but for the rest of this series.
- 29:28Speaker 5: You're balancing a whole thing, a lot of things at
- 29:29Speaker 5: once when you make that decision. And then again, yeah,
- 29:32Speaker 5: like we talk about the preparation. I mean, I'm sure
- 29:36Speaker 5: again Franny you saw it up close. But our perspective
- 29:40Speaker 5: on it too was like we asked before the game
- 29:41Speaker 5: about the catchers and how they, you know, get ready
- 29:45Speaker 5: if they're getting called in late to games, and it's
- 29:47Speaker 5: not just hey, we're gonna have you hit off the
- 29:49Speaker 5: trajector a couple of times, it's hey, we're gonna have
- 29:51Speaker 5: you catch off the trajects and we're gonna have you
- 29:52Speaker 5: get ready in that aspect of things, so they're they're
- 29:54Speaker 5: paying really close attention to how those guys get ready
- 29:57Speaker 5: before the game. Big credit to Bobby Wilson too, who
- 29:59Speaker 5: is done that before and knows how to implement that
- 30:03Speaker 5: in a big league dugout. So, yeah, can't give enough
- 30:06Speaker 5: credit to the preparation. The decisions aren't always going to work,
- 30:09Speaker 5: but it seems like more often than not they've been
- 30:11Speaker 5: the right one so far.
- 30:12Speaker 2: They're putting them in there to succeed man. Yeah, Yeah,
- 30:15Speaker 2: we talked about that in the last episode. They're putting
- 30:17Speaker 2: the players in the you know, positions that will be
- 30:19Speaker 2: most beneficial for them. I think the players are reading
- 30:23Speaker 2: that and believing in that and thriving in a lot
- 30:25Speaker 2: of those communications.
- 30:27Speaker 4: Drew Millis is what forty eight bats? Now, that's your like,
- 30:31Speaker 4: your your number two catcher has forty at bats and
- 30:33Speaker 4: then Cavorite hit forty forty plus a bats. You're like,
- 30:38Speaker 4: this is nothing on Riley, right, but like Riley by
- 30:42Speaker 4: I think May got his fifteenth at bat last year
- 30:44Speaker 4: something like that. Yeah, yep, it's look, would they love
- 30:50Speaker 4: to have one catcher that they believed in?
- 30:52Speaker 3: Trust?
- 30:53Speaker 4: Absolutely? I think one hundred percent we could all agree
- 30:55Speaker 4: on that, right probably, But when you look at this
- 30:59Speaker 4: raw and how it's constructed, and you have guys that
- 31:02Speaker 4: are twenty five and plus at bats all up and
- 31:05Speaker 4: down the roster, and then you could look at the
- 31:07Speaker 4: Braves and and this is like, this is where you
- 31:10Speaker 4: want to get to. I feel like, if I'm not mistaken,
- 31:12Speaker 4: I think you want to have a pretty set lineup
- 31:15Speaker 4: or pretty you know, like a five five guys that you're.
- 31:18Speaker 3: Relying on all the time.
- 31:20Speaker 4: What they do is so different because they have that
- 31:23Speaker 4: upper echelon talent everywhere, right, and so their bench doesn't
- 31:28Speaker 4: have that many at bats. It's like, think about if
- 31:31Speaker 4: they had that, if they had that ability there You're going,
- 31:34Speaker 4: is that a scary lineup or not? And I'm going
- 31:36Speaker 4: I don't think so, because you're taking away those five
- 31:38Speaker 4: guys that are always going to be in that in
- 31:40Speaker 4: that you know the lineup every day. And uh, it's
- 31:43Speaker 4: fun to see just based on I think Caber like
- 31:48Speaker 4: in how locked in he is.
- 31:49Speaker 3: He's in that dugout.
- 31:52Speaker 4: I don't remember really seeing him a whole lot when
- 31:54Speaker 4: he wasn't playing last year, just saying so.
- 31:58Speaker 5: Well, yeah, because he needed off after catching right.
- 32:01Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you know, so you said, I'm sure
- 32:04Speaker 2: Riley would have loved to have more than fifteen at
- 32:06Speaker 2: bats come one hundred this time last year. But I
- 32:08Speaker 2: think in previous season's Ruiz has been given such a
- 32:11Speaker 2: hefty load in April and may that you come to
- 32:14Speaker 2: August in September, maybe his production is starting to dip
- 32:17Speaker 2: a little bit, and you scratch your head and you
- 32:18Speaker 2: wonder why. Well, maybe it's because this guy played forty
- 32:21Speaker 2: games in fifty games in the first two months of
- 32:23Speaker 2: the season. It's hard to believe we're almost a month
- 32:25Speaker 2: through the season already. Curtis Meade answered for that, Braves
- 32:29Speaker 2: one run in the top of the eighth inning, putting
- 32:31Speaker 2: them out of slam range. Franny, as you said on
- 32:33Speaker 2: the broadcast, we got the light show. I love when
- 32:35Speaker 2: we get a good light show. I love the light show.
- 32:39Speaker 2: Honestly the best edition fair. How did he keep it fair?
- 32:43Speaker 2: Is really the ultimate question here, But that would go
- 32:46Speaker 2: to make it an eleven to four game. And Clayton
- 32:48Speaker 2: Beater slammed the door his first appearance since Pittsburgh or
- 32:52Speaker 2: Milwaukee sixteenth. Yeah, it's been a while from pitches in
- 32:56Speaker 2: two and stint, so that was that was needed. Yeah,
- 33:00Speaker 2: how much do you breathe it for him?
- 33:01Speaker 3: And then and then.
- 33:04Speaker 1: The breaking stuff looked good for him.
- 33:07Speaker 3: Last night finally, Yeah, that was that was the best
- 33:09Speaker 3: it looked.
- 33:12Speaker 2: The wind brings the Nats record to eleven and thirteen.
- 33:14Speaker 2: I don't have the division standings, but I imagine that
- 33:17Speaker 2: kept us in a tie for second, tie for second, yep,
- 33:20Speaker 2: tied for second with the Marlins. They get two more
- 33:22Speaker 2: against the Braves, one tonight and then one on Thursday
- 33:26Speaker 2: before they continue this grueling stretch of baseball without off days.
- 33:30Speaker 1: But who's complaining?
- 33:31Speaker 3: It's baseball. We love it.
- 33:32Speaker 1: This is what we live for.
- 33:34Speaker 2: Looking ahead to later tonight, I'm obviously in Arizona, you
- 33:36Speaker 2: guys are going to be at the ballpark. But I
- 33:38Speaker 2: asked you this on Monday, Franny, we'd split the first
- 33:41Speaker 2: two games. What can the Nats do right the next
- 33:44Speaker 2: two days to keep playing good ball? Maybe split the
- 33:47Speaker 2: next two, maybe get two.
- 33:50Speaker 4: I think that the consistency of a bats from the
- 33:52Speaker 4: beginning is got to be it. You could talk about
- 33:57Speaker 4: like the scoring and the runs. It's look, you just
- 34:00Speaker 4: continuously put pressure on them. I think the running game
- 34:03Speaker 4: has been an issue for the Braves to stop from
- 34:07Speaker 4: both I think it's now.
- 34:10Speaker 3: They've only caught two guys.
- 34:11Speaker 4: I think it's like two for twenty five running against
- 34:15Speaker 4: them right now. The twenty three for twenty five sorry,
- 34:20Speaker 4: I go on the catcher'scot stealing, so uh so, I
- 34:23Speaker 4: think that that has got to be a thing they
- 34:25Speaker 4: got to continue to pressure. You know, Brady had a
- 34:28Speaker 4: stolen base yesterday, Louis, and then you had a couple.
- 34:30Speaker 3: From Nas and it's like those are awesome.
- 34:33Speaker 4: That needs to be a constant against the Braves because
- 34:36Speaker 4: they're a team that has such a good bullpen and
- 34:39Speaker 4: all that stuff that you got to you gotta find
- 34:40Speaker 4: a way, right.
- 34:41Speaker 3: I think those are two constants.
- 34:43Speaker 4: And and you know, obviously the clean baseball and defensively
- 34:46Speaker 4: I think is gonna be huge.
- 34:48Speaker 2: Yeah, Censor, I'm curious what your thoughts are too. I mean,
- 34:53Speaker 2: I think the overwhelming theme right now for this team
- 34:55Speaker 2: just a month into the season is kind of the defense.
- 34:58Speaker 2: I think the pitching is what the pitching is. Knew
- 35:00Speaker 2: what it was going to be, and the bats have
- 35:01Speaker 2: been incredible, better than I think a lot of people
- 35:04Speaker 2: might have expected. I mean, we knew watching the spring
- 35:06Speaker 2: that these guys were great. But yeah, I mean, from
- 35:09Speaker 2: from a fielding standpoint, is there anything your highlighting specifically
- 35:14Speaker 2: you'd like to see them do well next two games?
- 35:18Speaker 5: I don't know specifically as much as you saw poor
- 35:22Speaker 5: performance on Saturday, defensively, you saw a better one. Sunday,
- 35:27Speaker 5: you saw poor one Monday, you saw a better one
- 35:30Speaker 5: Tuesday Wednesday. Is it going to be the same sort
- 35:33Speaker 5: of pattern or can you fix that? The other big
- 35:36Speaker 5: thing I think I'm paying attention to the next couple
- 35:38Speaker 5: of days is after and you know, I don't want
- 35:41Speaker 5: to make too much out of Foster getting one more out,
- 35:45Speaker 5: but with a bullpen that's not entirely text. Can you
- 35:49Speaker 5: attack those pockets in the right way, because this Braves
- 35:52Speaker 5: lineup is as deep as almost any you'll find, and
- 35:56Speaker 5: so I think, you know, I don't necessarily know that
- 35:58Speaker 5: the guys who pitched the next two days, Lttel and
- 36:01Speaker 5: Kavali are gonna get six innings. And if they don't,
- 36:05Speaker 5: can you attack those pockets in the right way? Can
- 36:07Speaker 5: the bullpen come through? Because for as good as they've
- 36:12Speaker 5: been at moments this week, I'm still skeptical that they're
- 36:17Speaker 5: over the hump, And so, like Franny said earlier, quicker outings,
- 36:20Speaker 5: better pockets and kind of figure it out from there.
- 36:23Speaker 5: I think this NASA offense, if you are within three
- 36:27Speaker 5: through the sixth, you're in striking distance.
- 36:30Speaker 3: But it's about not blowing that away. We totally saw
- 36:33Speaker 3: this coming, guys, We totally saw that coming. Yes, that's well.
- 36:37Speaker 2: I gotta say I want to eat my shoe really
- 36:39Speaker 2: quickly because I was on the phone with my friend
- 36:40Speaker 2: last night and he was watching on a delay and
- 36:43Speaker 2: I hung up on him before the sixth inning start.
- 36:45Speaker 2: I said, he's gonna face two batters here and then
- 36:47Speaker 2: they'll pull them before Riley and.
- 36:49Speaker 3: I was shocked, Huh, isn't that fun?
- 36:52Speaker 5: Though?
- 36:53Speaker 3: Yeah, because we're growing. We're growing with like how Blake and.
- 36:58Speaker 4: Simon Matthews are doing this whole thing, and I like
- 37:00Speaker 4: that part. I felt like we And so when you
- 37:04Speaker 4: have that idea, you're like, all right, I think it's
- 37:06Speaker 4: a it's for thinking.
- 37:07Speaker 3: Man.
- 37:07Speaker 4: You know this this sport. Everyone always, you know, the
- 37:10Speaker 4: fans are always like, hey, what is he doing?
- 37:13Speaker 3: It's like, all right, here we go. But you want
- 37:15Speaker 3: to get on the same page. It's fun not being
- 37:18Speaker 3: on the same page at the same time.
- 37:22Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yesterday, it's funny. Mark actually set up in
- 37:26Speaker 5: the press box. That's the most fun he's had with
- 37:28Speaker 5: a moment this year, because like he had predicted, oh
- 37:30Speaker 5: he's that eighty eight pitches. I know, like, he's face
- 37:33Speaker 5: this pocket, he's not going to do this, And all
- 37:35Speaker 5: of a sudden we see him walk out there and
- 37:37Speaker 5: doesn't point out there, and it's like whoa, So, yeah,
- 37:40Speaker 5: that was awesome.
- 37:41Speaker 2: I too, stow yep, I loved Mark's take on it
- 37:44Speaker 2: on That's Chatter earlier today. And yeah, I said to
- 37:46Speaker 2: my friend, with all the confidence in the world, I said,
- 37:48Speaker 2: he's not even going to face Riley here.
- 37:50Speaker 1: He'll just get.
- 37:51Speaker 2: Pulled after the first two batters. Doesn't matter if he
- 37:52Speaker 2: gets him out, done matter if they get all. It's
- 37:54Speaker 2: just something that they have decided as a team. That's
- 37:57Speaker 2: how they're going to attack it this year, especially after
- 37:59Speaker 2: the night before with Irvan and seeing how that played out.
- 38:02Speaker 2: And then yeah, I mean I think that moment, this
- 38:04Speaker 2: might be one that you're circling a month from now
- 38:06Speaker 2: and being like, hey, wait, we're still two games under
- 38:10Speaker 2: five hundred. But right now is it stands and as
- 38:12Speaker 2: a eleven thirteen game number twenty five later tonight, two
- 38:15Speaker 2: more against the Braids. We'll have another episode for you
- 38:17Speaker 2: all on Friday, and we'll see you then.
- 38:21Speaker 3: Please bye.