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Patrice Grimball_ The SC BookGal Amplifying Authors, Building Community, and Putting Literary Pieces in Place · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, welcome, welcome.
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  Speaker 3: To The Crew, podcast and media network where voices rise,
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  Speaker 3: stories shine, and purpose meets the world. Welcome to The Crew.
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  Speaker 3: We are the change.
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  Speaker 2: We are the change. Right here in our hearts. Welcome home,
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  Speaker 2: The crew around the world.
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  Speaker 3: Lifting every voice too.
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  Speaker 2: We make space for the voiceless.
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  Speaker 3: Hope for the undeserved. Real talk, real stories.
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  Speaker 2: Every voice deserves.
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  Speaker 1: To be heard.
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  Speaker 2: From the mic to.
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  Speaker 3: The nations, we build transformation. Change begins with us.
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  Speaker 2: Faith, purpose, power, trust.
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  Speaker 3: Seen around the world tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Dye crew shining bright. This is where it starts.
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  Speaker 4: We are the change.
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  Speaker 3: Right here in our hearts.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome home.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome through.
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  Speaker 3: There's a place for you. Down in South Carolina, where
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  Speaker 3: the stories rise. There's a queen with a mission, fire
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  Speaker 3: in her eyes.
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  Speaker 2: 20 years and counting, serving wisdom on the shelves.
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  Speaker 3: Helping voices find the courage to believe in themselves.
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  Speaker 1: She opens up.
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  Speaker 2: The pages, lets the hidden stories shine. Black and brown
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  Speaker 2: authors stepping boldly into time. With a mic and a.
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  Speaker 3: Message, she's changing the scene. Everybody knows her name, she's
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  Speaker 3: the literary queen.
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  Speaker 2: From the library sales to the podcast stream lift every
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  Speaker 2: offer you wake up a dream tuesday night at eight.
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  Speaker 3: And the room leans in patrice grimball let it all begin.
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  Speaker 4: Hey everyone, this is your girl Essie Bookout843.
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  Speaker 2: And how are you? You guys, you guys, see, I
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  Speaker 2: was going to wait until later and do this, but
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  Speaker 2: I need to go ahead and do it now. I
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  Speaker 2: am on a high right now. I'm literally on a high,
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  Speaker 2: and I want to thank those who came out, okay?
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  Speaker 2: So before I bring on my guests, okay, and ladies,
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  Speaker 2: y'all go ahead and call your friends, your girlfriends, your
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  Speaker 2: sister friends, your sister cousin, your sister from the other mother.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead and call all them and tell them to
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  Speaker 2: tune into this podcast, okay? But this weekend was bananas,
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  Speaker 2: you guys. So I don't know if y'all been following
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  Speaker 2: me on social media. And if you ain't, check the bottom,
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  Speaker 2: all my information. You never know what I might have
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  Speaker 2: up my sleeve, okay? So me and two co-workers, right,
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  Speaker 2: we came together. And last year, we presented something at
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  Speaker 2: our staff day, right? And it was about authors of color, okay?
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  Speaker 4: Romance.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all know I'm kind of finicky when it comes to romance,
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  Speaker 2: but I'll give the romance girlies their props, okay? So
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  Speaker 2: from that one conversation to that presentation, we did this event, okay?
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  Speaker 2: And the event was called Brown Sugar Black Romance. And
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  Speaker 2: we had 15 plus authors, all of them from South Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: They originated Live. State of South Carolina. 781 people. At
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  Speaker 2: Kisame North Charleston Library came out. Did we think it
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  Speaker 2: was going to be this big? Never in our wildest dreams, okay?
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  Speaker 2: So I have a video that I'm going to post
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  Speaker 2: later on tonight that's giving shout outs to everybody. I
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  Speaker 2: was not the main coordinator. I'm going to say that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to say her name is Shekinah Sidora Wright.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all go grab her books. And then there was another coordinator.
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  Speaker 2: Her name is Maya Hollinshed. Y'all go visit her at
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  Speaker 2: Dart Libraries. But when three great minds come together and
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  Speaker 2: we get other people to support us, listen, Charleston, y'all
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  Speaker 2: came out and I say thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Because y'all put the exclamation point. on a
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  Speaker 2: lot of questions that people have. All right, we got
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  Speaker 2: that out the way. Ladies, ladies, ladies, ladies, Lord, y'all, ladies,
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  Speaker 2: don't we go through some things in life? Don't you
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  Speaker 2: feel that you are one person and you got 50
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  Speaker 2: million stories to tell? Well, y'all, the author I have
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  Speaker 2: coming up, this book is All the women. That's all
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  Speaker 2: I can say is all the women. Tonight, I want
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  Speaker 2: to bring up author Lori Hurt. Come on up. Come
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  Speaker 2: on up, girlie. How are you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm wonderful. How are you tonight? Excited.
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  Speaker 2: Very excited. Y'all know when I get that big smile,
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  Speaker 2: y'all know what's up, right? Y'all know I can't help it.
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  Speaker 2: So before we go any further, Please tell us a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about yourself.
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  Speaker 4: So I am retired.
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  Speaker 1: I live in Panama. I spent the better part of
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  Speaker 1: my life in corporate America.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a mom of two, a widow, an ex-wife, a sister.
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  Speaker 1: I've been an artist my whole life, but I put
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  Speaker 1: it on the back burner and only about two years
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  Speaker 1: ago did I start writing again and am thrilled to
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  Speaker 1: be able to share the work I do. The underlining
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  Speaker 1: theme of everything I do is changing the conversation about grief.
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  Speaker 1: So hopefully tonight I'll get to give you a peek
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  Speaker 1: into that and we all can start some good conversations.
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  Speaker 2: So I love she said that, you guys, because me
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  Speaker 2: and her were talking behind stage, okay? So I know
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  Speaker 2: many of you remember, and if you don't, I'm bringing
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  Speaker 2: you back into my world, okay? I lost my cousin,
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  Speaker 2: and this is a close cousin, okay, on June 17th.
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  Speaker 2: And if you're very close to me, you know June
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  Speaker 2: 17th is when I lost my best friend, my mentor.
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  Speaker 2: So both of those things happening on that day, it
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  Speaker 2: was awful. But when I was telling her behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to stop thinking of grief as a bad thing. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, football season is starting, and me and his fiance,
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  Speaker 2: we still talk. And my mom would like to say,
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  Speaker 2: she's kind of naked.
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  Speaker 4: God bless her, too.
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  Speaker 2: But we were laughing, and we were making jokes upon
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  Speaker 2: him because she's still like the same team. But we
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  Speaker 2: took that grief, and we made it to laughter. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad that she said that because a lot of
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  Speaker 2: us is walking around with grief.
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: And like I told her, grief does not necessarily mean
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  Speaker 2: the loss of a loved one. Loss of yourself. Loss
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  Speaker 2: of a job. Loss of economy. Loss of a vision.
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  Speaker 2: You know, things like that. Why did you feel that
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  Speaker 2: you needed to write this book to rewrite how we
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  Speaker 2: see grief.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think I necessarily wrote the book itself
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  Speaker 1: to rewrite how we see grief. I wrote it as
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  Speaker 1: an example of how to carry grief with you, right?
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  Speaker 1: So everything that impacts us is, it stays with us, right?
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  Speaker 1: So think about the happiest day of your life, right?
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  Speaker 1: The day your kid was born or the day you
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  Speaker 1: got married, whatever that happy day is. And for so long,
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  Speaker 1: it was Every morning, this is the joy, this is
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  Speaker 1: the joy, this is joy, this is joy, right? But
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  Speaker 1: after a while, it's not that the joy went away,
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  Speaker 1: but it became a part of who you are. So
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  Speaker 1: it went on the shelf over here. Grief is the
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  Speaker 1: exact same thing, right? So the grief and the pain
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  Speaker 1: that we feel, it stays with us. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can pull it up sometimes and it's as fresh
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  Speaker 1: as it was day one. It never goes away, but
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  Speaker 1: it sits on the shelf over here. So I got
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  Speaker 1: my joy and I got my grief and my love
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  Speaker 1: and all of that. And I wanted to take all
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  Speaker 1: of that. and put it in perspective for people. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted people to be able to say, you're right. I
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  Speaker 1: can name that. I can identify it, see how it's
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  Speaker 1: impacted me and move forward. I like that.
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  Speaker 4: I like that.
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  Speaker 2: Now, you said that you had a kid. Which kid
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  Speaker 2: are we talking about? See, I got two of them.
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  Speaker 4: Well, let's see.
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  Speaker 1: So the first one was easy. The second one, it
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  Speaker 1: was easy. I think the joy with my second one, though,
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  Speaker 1: was more because it was such a hard pregnancy. The
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  Speaker 1: fact that she made it here healthy was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that was joyous. I was happy for the first one,
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  Speaker 1: but I was happier at the result that I got
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  Speaker 1: a healthy child.
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  Speaker 4: When they told me that she wasn't going to be healthy.
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  Speaker 2: Now, see, that's me and you. See, we just went, see,
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  Speaker 2: same thing with her. I was, y'all, I was on
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  Speaker 2: bed rest from November to March with this little chick.
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  Speaker 2: So why are you telling my story?
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  Speaker 1: Cause I was on bed rest at halftime at three
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  Speaker 1: and a half months.
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  Speaker 2: And at four months I was on bed rest for
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  Speaker 2: the rest.
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  Speaker 4: Of my pregnancy. Man.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So at three and a half months, I had
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  Speaker 2: a scare at three months with her. And it was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: there's still a heartbeat. This mean, dang, this is, y'all literally,
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  Speaker 2: there's a no limit soul genie. What is this? I
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  Speaker 2: truly understand and was on bed rest from November. I
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  Speaker 2: remember all my family went to Greenville for Thanksgiving and
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sitting down here ordering Chinese food, looking at
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  Speaker 2: a game, but I was mad. But I loved a
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  Speaker 2: little chick like those ones. So what made you want
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  Speaker 2: to become an author? I've always loved to write. As
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  Speaker 2: a kid, it was my way of.
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  Speaker 1: Expressing and processing the traumas that I lived. because I
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  Speaker 1: had a very traumatic childhood. I wanted to keep writing,
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  Speaker 1: but life's when you become an adult and it takes
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  Speaker 1: money to raise a family. And we agreed that I
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  Speaker 1: should get a real job, real job. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: I did. But when I look at it, that was
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  Speaker 1: the best decision I ever made because I could not
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  Speaker 1: have written the way I write now if I started
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  Speaker 1: back then. Yes, I had trauma, but it was unprocessed
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  Speaker 1: and unhealed, and it was ugly. Now, I can take
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  Speaker 1: the ugly and write beautifully and inspirationally for people.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay. So, y'all, I'm about to bring up her
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  Speaker 2: book cover. Y'all know I am a cover girl. Not
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  Speaker 2: the makeup-wise, because this is about the most y'all make
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  Speaker 2: it out of me, okay? But look at this cover
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  Speaker 2: you got. Look at that. So I got it. All right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to let her tell you guys about this
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  Speaker 2: cover and the significant parts of the cover. Tell us
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about it.
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  Speaker 1: So when I designed the cover, I wanted something that
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  Speaker 1: spoke to the brokenness and rehealing that we all did.
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  Speaker 1: That's something that's shaded and that's kind of dimmed which
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  Speaker 1: is the coloring. But I also wanted to show the
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  Speaker 1: little bits of hope, the sun in the background, the
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  Speaker 1: fainted flowers. I wanted to show the history, the culture.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got the Kemetic symbols in there. But I
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  Speaker 1: wanted something soft. So that was the design of the writing,
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  Speaker 1: something that's soft but strong. So when we were talking
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  Speaker 1: and you were describing the things that you saw. And
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  Speaker 1: he was like, I'm like, you absolutely got it. And
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  Speaker 1: that makes me feel good because that means that what
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to do, the message I'm trying to communicate
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  Speaker 1: is coming across.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So Mr. Eddie said, Miss Lori was my neighbor
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  Speaker 2: from across the street back in Detroit. So your cover
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  Speaker 2: speaks before you open your book. Tell us now a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about your book. So All the.
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  Speaker 1: Women I Have Been is a series of linked stories.
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  Speaker 2: So it's.
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  Speaker 1: Moments in Nefra's life that happen where there's a whole
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  Speaker 1: lifetime that happens in a very short moment. Just as
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  Speaker 1: the first chapter, for instance, she's, I'm sorry, the second chapter,
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  Speaker 1: she's in an elevator. And in the course of going
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  Speaker 1: those few floors, she has three lifetimes. She experiences three lifetimes,
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  Speaker 1: three of her lifetimes, which is where I introduce some
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  Speaker 1: of the characters that are in the book. And they're
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  Speaker 1: moments that on the surface seem really small, but when
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  Speaker 1: you stop and think about it, those moments are what
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  Speaker 1: make up your life. So the book is like that
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  Speaker 1: throughout the whole thing. You'll get whole stories that happened
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  Speaker 1: in an instant. And that was my inspiration was one
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  Speaker 1: day I was just like, you know how you have
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  Speaker 1: those days you're just memory after memory after memory after memory.
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  Speaker 2: You're, I don't want to say stuck there, but you're
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  Speaker 2: in a memory mode.
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  Speaker 1: And I the importance of those memories became evident to
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  Speaker 1: me and I had to figure out how to put
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  Speaker 1: it on paper and that's what I did.
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  Speaker 2: So you talked about being a mother. You talked about
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  Speaker 2: the disappointment of a relationship. You talked about the difference
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  Speaker 2: between Well, let's go there because that really, really touched me.
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  Speaker 2: The difference between longing and, oh, she dropped. We'll get
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  Speaker 2: her back, you guys. Give me one quick moment and
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  Speaker 2: I can add her back. Hello?
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  Speaker 4: Hello?
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  Speaker 2: So, well, I'll continue talking. So let me tell you
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  Speaker 2: guys a little bit more about her book until we
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  Speaker 2: get her back, okay? The character in her book, they
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  Speaker 2: go through different series in her life, okay? It all
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  Speaker 2: centers around a character named Nefira. And I know I'm
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  Speaker 2: saying it wrong, and I do apologize. But she lives
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  Speaker 2: so many lives inside one lifetime. And all of us women,
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  Speaker 2: we do, okay? She goes from longing to love. And
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  Speaker 2: that's the question I'm going to ask her as soon
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  Speaker 2: as she comes back. Then she talks about how she's
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  Speaker 2: building a family and trying to find and understand herself.
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  Speaker 2: I can admit, I understand that fully. Once I had
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  Speaker 2: my kids and when I was married, I literally lost myself.
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  Speaker 2: Because I play so much into my family. Okay. But
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  Speaker 2: now I'm a part of this and I'm finding bits
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  Speaker 2: and pieces of myself that is astonishing, which is like,
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  Speaker 2: I never thought I could speak.
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  Speaker 4: Out in the open.
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  Speaker 2: Like, this is brand new to me. And I love
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  Speaker 2: doing it. I never thought I'd be able to interview
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  Speaker 2: authors and enjoy reading all these new books. Books that
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  Speaker 2: I would have never picked up if I was in
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  Speaker 2: a store. So I was able to do that. Now
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  Speaker 2: also this character, she goes through devotion, disappointment, passion, and partnership.
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  Speaker 2: And then she's then left as a widow and have
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  Speaker 2: to figure out what to do because the love story
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  Speaker 2: is in. So all of this emotion, all of these
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  Speaker 2: different parts of life is going on in this book.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel that this is a great read for anyone,
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  Speaker 2: mainly females, but anyone who's traveling through these points in life.
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  Speaker 2: And like we said, grief is not only losing a
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  Speaker 2: family member. She lost herself. She lost, um, her job.
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  Speaker 2: She lost her love. She lost, um, herself when it
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  Speaker 2: came to being a mother and what all these, this
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  Speaker 2: one characters and all these things she was going through,
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  Speaker 2: she had to find that courage to become whole again.
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  Speaker 2: And that's where the work starts becoming whole again. You
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  Speaker 2: have to put in that work.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So I want to thank you guys for being with
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  Speaker 2: us tonight we're going to bring um miss hurt back
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  Speaker 2: again and we're going to continue to talk about her
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  Speaker 2: book but again grab this she has a website i'll
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  Speaker 2: put all her information at the bottom of the screen
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  Speaker 2: where you can grab her books. She has a website
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  Speaker 2: called laurihurtliving.com. She also has her books on Amazon, Barnes
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  Speaker 2: & Noble, Bookshop.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, and she's... Flickered and I lost everything. So I apologize.
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  Speaker 1: You're on my phone now.
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  Speaker 2: You're absolutely fine. Yes, you guys. She's in Panama. You've
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: been telling us for the longest. Get your supplies. Because
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: we in the States, we might be next. And y'all know.
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  Speaker 2: What was that? Gary Indiana? That was not a powerful week.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead and get your stuff together. So we're not
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  Speaker 2: going to keep you long. Because we know you need to... Right?
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  Speaker 2: You are good. So what would you want readers to
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  Speaker 2: take away from your book?
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  Speaker 1: I want people to read the book and find something
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  Speaker 1: that resonates with them and learn to appreciate that the
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  Speaker 1: losses that we experience, the day-to-day losses, the little ones,
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  Speaker 1: not the big ones. We know how to process the
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  Speaker 1: big ones and we have... groups and books and things
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  Speaker 1: to process the big ones. We don't have readily available
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  Speaker 1: how to process the little losses, the loss of who
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  Speaker 1: I thought I was going to be, the loss of
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  Speaker 1: a community that we gave up, the loss of our
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  Speaker 1: favorite toy for our little people. So I would like
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  Speaker 1: them to be able to realize that you can celebrate
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  Speaker 1: those small things and embrace those changes those moments of
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  Speaker 1: grief that we haven't named as grief. And just change
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  Speaker 1: the way we think about it. Because once you embrace it,
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  Speaker 1: you name it, incorporate it, it's a lot easier to
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  Speaker 1: move forward with it.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. And that is true, you guys. You know, when
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  Speaker 2: you think about it, we do have groups for losing
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  Speaker 2: a family member, losing a child. We do have those groups.
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  Speaker 2: But when it comes to things like a job and yourself,
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  Speaker 2: for instance, the mother who murdered her kids, and I
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  Speaker 2: haven't been following the trial, I have to say, but
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  Speaker 2: I have yet to hear anybody say anything about therapy
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  Speaker 2: efforts for this mother.
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  Speaker 1: Not even just for the mother, but for the community,
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  Speaker 1: for the people around them, because the one thing about
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  Speaker 1: grief is other people's grief makes us uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 4: But that's everybody's grief.
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  Speaker 1: That woman killing her children, that's everybody's grief. That's grief
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  Speaker 1: that children that we don't even recognize that they're going
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  Speaker 1: to have a sense of loss, even if they didn't
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: know those children or know that family, That's a type
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: of loss that's going to be with them.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: And that's really true. That's really true because when it
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: came down to my daughter, you guys, and my son,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I did not know that they were still grieving my
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: mother at their young age. I didn't know that. And
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: even my daughter, with the situation she may have in
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: her little life, she was going through some grieving process.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: And it's not until you actually talk. And parents... Okay,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I'm going to put the book aside for a second, y'all.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Let me jump into this. Talk to your kids. We
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: don't know what these kids are holding into. And I'm
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: going to tell you right now, I realize that my
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: daughter and my son go through way more than I
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: went through.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I had that childhood of going outside playing and not
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: have to worry about anybody snatching me up.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: These kids nowadays, they don't have that outlet. But we
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: put them in front of computers and phones and stuff,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: but we won't talk. Every day my daughter comes, flop
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: her big head on my bed and tell me about
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: her day. And I wouldn't change that for the world.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: When I get off this podcast, sometimes she's in my
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: room and we might have already talked earlier. But believe
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: you me, the camera goes down and I am mommy.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: So you guys, talk to your kids, okay?
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: So, I did have a question before you went out.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: You said this statement. A woman learning the difference between
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: longing and love. Please explain that to the naive person
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: in me.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Please explain this. So.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: When I say learning the difference between longing and love,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: so we can long for something. We can want something.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: We can reach for it. We can even attain it.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: But loving something, it's stronger.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: It's unconditional.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: It's just different. It's knowing the difference between loving yourself
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: and longing for the person you want to be. I
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: love me where I am right now. I love the
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: broken me. I love the future me. And I love
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the now me. I long for the woman that I
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: want to be, both physically, emotionally, spiritually. But I love
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: me right now.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: And we have to learn to love me right now.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: You have to.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Because if all you're doing is reaching for tomorrow, when
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: are you going to take time and appreciate today?
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: You're going to wake up and you're going to miss tomorrow.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: All of your today's looking at tomorrow, which is kind
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: of what the book does is she's, she's experiencing those moments, good, bad,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and ugly. Those lifetimes of moments that she missed, but
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: now she's seeing them and experiencing them and recognizing them,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: naming them.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: In herself. And it's, it's acceptance of yourself. If that
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: makes sense.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. So I want you to know, I'm
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: about to take that segment right there, that nice little
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: segment that you did, and that is going to be
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: a highlight. I'm going to just let you go ahead
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: and know that now.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Okay. Well, thank you.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: You said love who you are right now. Ladies, we
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: have a tendency not to do that. We have a
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: tendency to put on this armor. But do we truly
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: love the person who we are right now? You did
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: that one right there. You did that.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Okay. All right.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: So remember I told you.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Don't get scared.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: I'm not scared. I'm not scared. I'm not scared.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: You're not scared?
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Let's bring you to the hot seat. So you guys
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: know these are my fun questions. And because a lot
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: of people, when they ask for books, they're really asking
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: for what they read, what they, I'm sorry, what they
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: watch on TV and what they listen to. Well, nine
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: times ten would be the thing that they read. So,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I have a question for you.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Now, I am going to say the character's name wrong.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Please correct me.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Nerfe?
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Nefra.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Nefra.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I said I was going to say it wrong, y'all. Nefra.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: I told you I was going to say it wrong.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Listen, y'all, when I read books, and I don't know
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: the characters' names, they name us the first letter.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: T-L-Nephri.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: That's what we say, correct?
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, Nephra.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: See, look, I done did it again. It's all right.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: I know what you're talking about.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: We here. Okay, so Lifetime... called and they say, you
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: know what? We want to make your book into a movie.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: We are going to make all the women I have
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: fit into a movie.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: We need to cast the female male, the female main character.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: We would love to get someone that is an actress.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Who would you choose? to play the part. and why.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: From a skill level Angela Bassett because she's got the
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: depth to cover all of the women that Nefra has
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: been from an like.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: I think it would be Angela Bassett. Honestly.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: You think it would be Angela Bassett.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: I think she can play it. You think she can
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: play it?
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: All right. Now, when your character is in a mother
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: mode and we're in that point of her life, we
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: would like her to be an 80s musical artist, R
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: & B. Who would she be?
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: An 80s?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: 80s, we talking about.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Ooh. That's a tough one. 80s R & B artist
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: that she would be. Hmm.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Um.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Ooh. She said ooh.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Um....
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I DON'T KNOW.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: MAYBE.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: MAYBE.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: NO.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: OKAY, THE LAPTOP. OKAY, THE LAPTOP. THAT'S A GO-OFF. I
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: 80s female R & B artist.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Maybe Shanice.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: No.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Now, which one is Shanice? What is she? I love
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: your smile, right?
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Okay. Flex's wife. Okay, okay, okay.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Maybe, maybe, maybe.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Like that one, I never would have
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: thought about. Like I think about it in a movie,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: but I would an 80s artist.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: No. If you ask me a current day, Jill Scott.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: OK, OK. So why Jill Scott?
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Because she gives me that vibe.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Like when I listen to her do interviews and talk,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: she gives me that nurturing vibe.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: With an edge.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: You know what? You're right. I don't think I could
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: be Jill Scott's child. I would feel so wrong if
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I did anything.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Yes, baby.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: And you'd be like, dang, mama, I'm sorry.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: She's got that little edge. Jill's got that little edge.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: If you ever watch her interviews, she's nice and sweet,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: but the undercut is like, yeah, but I got you.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Hi, baby. Why you do that?
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I heard you could never do that again.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Still smiling and threatening you. And you're like, damn, I'm sorry.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: So, we have, if she was an actress, she would
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: have met Angela Bassett. And then, if she was a
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: musical artist, she would be, Lord Jesus, we were just
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: talking about her. Jill Scott. But, you know, sometimes you
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: need somebody to help you write your book. What author
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: would you ever want to co-write a book with and why?
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: This is going to sound crazy. It's a male artist.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, a male author.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: So James Patterson, because I think that his writing is,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: it's so detailed and the details are so clear. that
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: you literally can visualize it. And after, like, I read
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Along Came a Spider, and then I saw the movie.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I read Kiss the Girls, and then I saw the movies.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: And it was so on point with, his descriptions were
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: so on point that when they made the movie, they
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: were able to capture it. And that is rare because most, like,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I read books and then I watch the movies most
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: of the time. And it's, they don't usually match. And
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: The details in those movies did.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: All right, now. See, you survived my trick questions.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: You survived the jokes.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: But before we let you go, what would you like
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: to say to the readers who have read this book?
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: What would you like to say to the readers who
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: are going to read this book and the readers who
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: watch this podcast and go and read the book? What
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: would you like to say to your readers?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: So to the readers who read it and those who
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: did the early review for me, thank you for the
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: confidence that you gave me. You confirmed that I got
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: my message across and I appreciate that. To those who
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: are about to read it, have a good time.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Enjoy it. Be prepared.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Have some tissue because there's a couple chapters that are
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: going to make you cry. But find what resonates with
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: you and It doesn't matter if you're male, female, young, old,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: there's something in here for everybody. And for people who
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: joined us on the podcast, thank you for joining me.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: I hope you go and buy the book.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: And I hope that you come and join me on
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: my social media, email me, talk to me, come to
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: my author talks so that we can start changing the
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: way we think about grief. We kind of, didn't go
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: detailed into it, but we really, everything I do is
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: about changing the conversation and being.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Comfortable, not only in your own grief, but in other
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: people's grief. So that would be my message. That would
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: be what I would want.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Let me know what I can do to help you
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: change this conversation or have these conversations.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: So I heard from a little bird, please. that you
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: have a special that's going on for anybody who's seen
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: the live. Can you tell us a little.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Bit about that?
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So if you came to the podcast, there's a
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: link up to my website that goes to promo site.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: You can go there and get a deeply, deeply discounted
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: copy of the book. I took it down to where
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: it is literally you're paying the printing cost and that's all.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: So go get it.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Enjoy it.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Let me know what you think about it. Email me.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I do read and respond to every single email.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: So you guys, for 24 hours, you have a chance
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: to get that special price. There is no reason why
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: you should not have a copy of this book. The
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: same price you would get for Starbucks. yeah mcdonald's or
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: my daily regimen a red bull you can get this
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: book so if you look at the bottom of the
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: screen it is scrolling okay you guys i will make
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: sure that i put it on my facebook page tonight
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: because it does have a link in you know tiktok
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: them be act crazy when it comes to links so
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: i will put it on my facebook page if you
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: are in sc book gals and friends um book club group,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: the virtual book club group. I'm going to put it
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: there and I will put it on the page of
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: SC Book Gals and Friends and the crew podcast. 24 hours. Tick, tick, tick, tick.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: So thank you for being with us tonight.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Thank you. I appreciate you so much.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: No, I appreciate you. You don't drop all these nuggets
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: and stuff. Got me feeling all But before you go,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: we got to give them your social media contacts so
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: they can follow you. Go ahead and get us to
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: run down.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: So on Facebook, you can find me at Lori hurt. Um,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: you can find me on YouTube at Lori hurt living.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: You can find my webpage at Lori hurt living.com. And
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I also have a Lori hurt living Facebook page. So
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I'm there. Um, I'm the, uh, livingmybestlife0612 on Instagram. I'm
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: linked everywhere, so find me, reach out. You can't find me,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: email me, and I will send you the links.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Someone says, that's my baby.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Manu Simon?
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Kamau Simon.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: Kamau Simon, that's my fiancé. That's my fiancé. He said,
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: that's my thing.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Clock it.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: Wow. Thank you for showing up.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Patrice Richardson says, I love this. So proud of you, Lori.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Thank you. Patrice is awesome. She's got her book. I
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: am Patrice.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: And she has been such a help and an inspiration.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: to me going public. I've only met her recently, but
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: she is such a powerful woman. And if you're an author,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: if you're looking for a good read, definitely check out
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: her book.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Patrice, you need to come and be interviewed by Patrice.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Come on. The Patrice show.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Two peas in the pod. What I'm talking about.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? There you go. I'm serious.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Patrice, hit me up. I would love to have you
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: on my show.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Audrey.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Audrey says, well done. And Eddie says, you have come
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: a long way. So proud.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Eddie. We just love hearing that you still
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: live across the street. I love him to death. Thank you, Eddie.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I thank you for being with us tonight. This
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: was so much fun. And you guys, 24 hours.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Check it out.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Again, thank you, Ms. Hurt, for being with us tonight.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: And enjoy that beautiful, y'all, she has the most beautiful
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: view behind her.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I wish I was there. Look at that. Y'all, that
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: is beautiful. Even though the lights went out, it's still pretty.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: Everywhere else kicked on. It finally kicked back on here, too.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: But, yeah.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: So thank you for being with us tonight. And remember,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I thank you.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: I thank you. Thank you so much.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: You guys, it's another great interview in the books. This
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: is what I'm doing on 20 Seconds. So make sure
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: y'all join me for this one. I'm going to be
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: talking to Leah Thomas about her book, Athena. 24 hours. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: There's no such thing as no book because not everybody
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: has read every book. You guys have a great night. Bye.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: The replay 1520 more behind. We are the chain. We
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: are the chain.