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Disclosure Is Coming | Alan DiDio | The Week in Bible Prophecy · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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  Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Momo Benzalez here in studio, and we're going
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  Speaker 2: to be talking about all this UFO crazy stuff that
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  Speaker 2: is really becoming a viral all around all of social media.
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  Speaker 2: And I have the privilege of talking to Alan de
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  Speaker 2: Dio today because he was in one of the meetings
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  Speaker 2: and so he's going to be answering a lot of
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  Speaker 2: questions for us about what is true. And there's so
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  Speaker 2: much misinformation and disinformation going out right now that we're
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  Speaker 2: going to ask him straight from the horse's mouth, who
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  Speaker 2: was there. And before we get to Alan, I just
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  Speaker 4: But back to the task at hand.
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  Speaker 3: Here, Alan, welcome. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: The Prophecy Watchers is my favorite place to receive prophecy teaching,
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  Speaker 1: and I tell everybody this is where you have to go.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so thankful for you.
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  Speaker 1: You're always level headed, You're always word based, and if
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  Speaker 1: I could get on that cruise, i'd be there too.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you are very kind to say that, and you
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  Speaker 2: know that's you've been here before, to our studios and
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  Speaker 2: certainly we've done we've spent time together and interviewing, and
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  Speaker 2: that's honestly one of the things I appreciate about you
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  Speaker 2: as well, that at heart, I'm not a sensationalist. I'm
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  Speaker 2: really not, and I like just the word. The word
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  Speaker 2: is is our foundation. It's our anchor for everything. No,
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  Speaker 2: I love fringe topics, I love conspiracy for sure, but
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day. You and I have
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  Speaker 2: talked before, just even offline.
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  Speaker 4: Is that evidence? Where is the evidence about things? And
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  Speaker 4: so let me just set the stage here that.
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  Speaker 2: Over the last few days this week, really I think
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  Speaker 2: what kind of precipitated everything was a video that was
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  Speaker 2: done by Perry Stone and he's got a very large
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  Speaker 2: social media presence for sure, almost a million subscribers on YouTube, etc.
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  Speaker 2: And he came out discussing a meeting or a series
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  Speaker 2: of meetings that had taken place a few months ago.
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  Speaker 3: I mean this was back in late February.
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  Speaker 2: And then of course then everybody's running to see what
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  Speaker 2: is he talking about?
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  Speaker 3: And then I saw you.
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  Speaker 2: You had posted something on x I think where you said, well, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I was there, and so let's jump in where were
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  Speaker 2: you and what was going on and give us the context.
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  Speaker 1: And this is really strange because, as you said, this
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  Speaker 1: happened months ago. We've all been talking about it since then.
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  Speaker 1: So for this to explode as it has is really
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  Speaker 1: really unusual. And I prayed that the name of Jesus
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  Speaker 1: is going to be glorified and lifted up and people
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  Speaker 1: are going to run back to the word. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I saw this explode online, and I saw everyone attacking
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  Speaker 1: Brother Perry saying there's no such meeting. That's not true,
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  Speaker 1: and actually I was there. So I simply replied, he's
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  Speaker 1: telling the truth. I was there, and that just blew up.
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  Speaker 1: I think millions upon millions of people have now been
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  Speaker 1: tuning in and asking questions about the subject. So you
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  Speaker 1: want me kind of give you the framework of this
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  Speaker 1: meeting and where it was and how it all happened.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and let's clarify it right up up front that
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  Speaker 2: there was actually at least two meetings, yes, and so
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  Speaker 2: there was some groups that were There was another group
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  Speaker 2: of people obviously at a second meeting.
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  Speaker 4: But let's let's give some contact. Yeah, please.
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  Speaker 1: So I was invited around NRB, the National Religious Broadcasters Convention,
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  Speaker 1: which is in Nashville, Tennessee. A lot of US ministers
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  Speaker 1: were all clustered together, people you would never normally have
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  Speaker 1: in the same room together, you know, at NRB or together.
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  Speaker 1: So these end viduals who were putting on this meeting
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  Speaker 1: thought this would be a good opportunity, so they rented
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  Speaker 1: in Airbnb and they invited a few of us that
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  Speaker 1: they knew personally. Now, these individuals have varying backgrounds. Will
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  Speaker 1: call them the briefers. They asked to remain anonymous. That's
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  Speaker 1: the only reason this meeting is referred to as secret.
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  Speaker 1: It's not that the content itself is secret. We're free
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  Speaker 1: to share all of that. But they have concerns for
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  Speaker 1: their reputations, their livelihoods, and maybe even more based off
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  Speaker 1: a lot of what we're seeing in the news here lately.
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  Speaker 1: So they just simply asked to be anonymous. And these
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  Speaker 1: are individuals who come from either places in government or
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  Speaker 1: other agencies, with an enormous background in what's happening. They've
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of access to a lot of intelligence
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of people in the intelligence community, and
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  Speaker 1: they had come across some information that was concerning to them,
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  Speaker 1: and so they have developed they've been investigating this. They
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  Speaker 1: developed this presentation in order to show pastors, here's the
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  Speaker 1: deception that could be coming down the pike. Here's why
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  Speaker 1: we need to teach our people the word of God.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why they're calling the meeting. And someone said,
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  Speaker 1: I think the other day, let's be careful not to
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  Speaker 1: sensationalize this, as you said, and I certainly don't want
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  Speaker 1: to sensationalize it. However, it's very difficult not to refer
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  Speaker 1: to this as some way sensational because it's a really
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  Speaker 1: weird meeting, very strange. So I'm invited by this individual
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  Speaker 1: who has enormous experience with classified things, and he invites
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  Speaker 1: me to this meeting. It's a closed meeting. I go
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  Speaker 1: to this airbnb. I remember it's down a dark street.
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  Speaker 1: It felt like there weren't any street lights on this street.
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  Speaker 1: You get there, you have to turn your phone on
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  Speaker 1: airplane mode. So I'm not overstating how we felt going
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  Speaker 1: into this meeting. It felt really strange. In fact, another
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  Speaker 1: friend called me on the way there and said, are
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  Speaker 1: we sure we want to go to this meeting? Are
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  Speaker 1: we sure we want to do this? Where We're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: if you're going, I'll go.
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  Speaker 3: So we go.
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  Speaker 1: And it was these gentlemen who loved the Lord, their believers, genuine,
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  Speaker 1: sincere who simply want to make sure Christians stay on
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  Speaker 1: the world and that pastors are equipped to answer a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the deceptions. So it was about two and
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  Speaker 1: a half three hours maybe where they went through I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how many slides of here's all the different
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  Speaker 1: theories and the different aspects of the United States government.
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  Speaker 1: I can talk about that if you want here in
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  Speaker 1: a moment. And however, we need to make sure we
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  Speaker 1: ground our people on the word. So that's the gist
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  Speaker 1: of the meeting.
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  Speaker 2: So what we're hearing too, again a lot of misinformation
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  Speaker 2: is and the way it's being presented is some people
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  Speaker 2: are saying that, you know, the headline government, the government
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  Speaker 2: is asking pastors for ABC and D, And in fact,
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  Speaker 2: these briefers are not officially representing the government at all, right.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, quite to the contrary, these briefers are looking
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  Speaker 1: into what the government is doing and are very concerned
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  Speaker 1: at kind of taking the cover off a lot of
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  Speaker 1: what the government is doing and plans to do. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's another thing I've seen that that's been gotten wrong
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  Speaker 1: on social media.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's important because but no doubt when you if
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  Speaker 2: I ever hear the government is trying to go control
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  Speaker 2: or contribute to the narrative of what pastors should and
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't say automatically, I'm like, whoa, you're not telling.
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  Speaker 3: Us what to do, you know? Thank you? Yeah, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: thank you. We don't trust the government any farther. We
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  Speaker 3: can throw them.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly, So that's not the case here.
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  Speaker 2: So I've also seen too, just in some of the
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  Speaker 2: information that that's been available, that these briefers have been
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  Speaker 2: involved again in their own like you said, in their
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  Speaker 2: own agencies, in their own positions, being part of some
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  Speaker 2: of the investigators came in maybe like the I'm not
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  Speaker 2: equating them to David Grush, but in the sense of
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  Speaker 2: David Grush was part of, you know, the the UAP
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  Speaker 2: task Force, and so these guys were also doing their
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  Speaker 2: own part of some investigative opportunities. And so they're seeing
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  Speaker 2: these things and just as their own concern for the church,
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  Speaker 2: their love of the Lord, their love for the church,
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  Speaker 2: this is what led them to say, Hey, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: this is what's potentially coming down, and we need to
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  Speaker 2: be prepared now. Somebody else asked me, was in the
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  Speaker 2: sense of when they were asking or seeking out pastors,
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  Speaker 2: was was it only like Pentecostal pastors? Was it like
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  Speaker 2: you know, what was there any were they what were
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  Speaker 2: they targeting?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, from one understand of both meetings, there was there
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  Speaker 1: was a range of backgrounds. In our meeting, it was
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  Speaker 1: more charismatic leaders. And the reason for that is because
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  Speaker 1: they're first reaching out to people they knew personally or
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  Speaker 1: had connected with personally because they're in that circle. And
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  Speaker 1: then they asked those pastors, is there anyone you trust?
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  Speaker 1: Is there anyone you know and trust? And so I
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  Speaker 1: think in the other meeting there may have been more
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  Speaker 1: of a bit of a diversity. And I think there
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  Speaker 1: was also in the meeting I was in as well,
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  Speaker 1: people from different backgrounds. But yeah, that's the reason why
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  Speaker 1: I was more of a personal contact, personal connection to
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  Speaker 1: get into the meeting.
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  Speaker 4: And in your meeting itself, how many people roughly were there?
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  Speaker 1: Half a dozen to a dozen people were in that room? Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so it's a small, small, small room with a lot
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  Speaker 1: of information.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I because the other meeting, as I've researched thing,
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  Speaker 2: it was I'm hearing there was fifty or twenty at
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  Speaker 2: that other meeting, which.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where there was a representative who apparently called
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  Speaker 1: in to that meeting, but he wasn't a speaker in
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  Speaker 1: that meeting. I think he was just calling in to say,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for what you're doing as pastors.
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  Speaker 3: We need to make sure our people are prepared.
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  Speaker 1: I think he was basically saying the same thing, we
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  Speaker 1: need to make sure our people are prepared. I was
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  Speaker 1: invited to that meeting. I wasn't able to attend that one,
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  Speaker 1: so I went to the next one, and that was
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  Speaker 1: in the same area in the same time, I think so.
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  Speaker 1: I think so there was a little bit of time
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  Speaker 1: between the two, but same people, same information organized in
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  Speaker 1: the event.
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  Speaker 3: Like different state or at the same state or I
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  Speaker 3: don't know for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I think I recall someone saying it was the same state,
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  Speaker 1: but okay, yeah, I mean, these are the little nuggets
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  Speaker 1: of information that I hope I would love to see
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  Speaker 1: people get the facts and rather than they're in the speculation.
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  Speaker 3: And we do know that.
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  Speaker 2: That was Congressman Eric Berlison from Missouri, and he, of
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  Speaker 2: course he's on the UFO committee and he's been doing
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  Speaker 2: a great job.
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  Speaker 3: He's a believer.
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  Speaker 2: I've actually talked to him several times times last summer,
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  Speaker 2: and uh, solid guy. And here again that's encouraging that
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  Speaker 2: he has the same concern for seeing the church be prepared,
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  Speaker 2: because even what I see him saying is, hey, we
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  Speaker 2: don't we don't have all the answers.
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  Speaker 3: That's what we're trying to do, is to get the answers.
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  Speaker 4: Because there's so much mystery to some of this.
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  Speaker 2: Let me let me go through a couple of things here,
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  Speaker 2: because as it relates to the slide, the Slide Show
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  Speaker 2: talk talk about that and about how they how they
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  Speaker 2: approached it in this sense of saying, hey, this is
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  Speaker 2: maybe explain that because I have some information, but I'll
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  Speaker 2: just let you talk.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was extensive.
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  Speaker 1: So again we were talking about two and a half
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  Speaker 1: three hours of going through one slide after another. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how many they were, but there was
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  Speaker 1: a great deal of slides. And the purpose of it
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  Speaker 1: was not necessarily to say this is what this is.
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  Speaker 1: The purpose was to say there are and this was
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it was come from. But this is
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  Speaker 1: something that was interesting or illuminating to me. And I
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  Speaker 1: think we probably know this, but hearing it helps that
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  Speaker 1: there are different silos within the United States government, and
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  Speaker 1: that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand
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  Speaker 1: is doing. And so in certain pockets they believe one thing,
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  Speaker 1: in another pocket they believe another, and another pocket they
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  Speaker 1: believe another and have conflicting interest to often collide and
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  Speaker 1: they're kind of working against each other, sometimes knowingly and
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  Speaker 1: sometimes unknowingly. And what they went through in this sight
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  Speaker 1: presentation was here are all of the beliefs or theories.
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  Speaker 1: And they also included other figureheads, talking heads, people that
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  Speaker 1: are often when considered alien or ufo U it be
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  Speaker 1: specialists if they're on Newsmax or you know, ancient aliens
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. Here's these people, Here's what their background is,
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  Speaker 1: here's where they're really coming from. And so it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: all of that. They weren't saying all of these things
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  Speaker 1: you hear people talking about reptilians and all this other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: They weren't saying this is the case. They were saying,
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  Speaker 1: here's what some people believe. Let's make sure we bring
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  Speaker 1: people back to the Word of God. Was essentially what
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  Speaker 1: it all consisted of.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, if I find that again very encouraging
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  Speaker 2: because we know, we know again the.
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  Speaker 3: That there's a narrative. We know the world's can present
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  Speaker 3: a narrative, no doubt in all this.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that one of the other things
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  Speaker 2: that I saw in some of the research was that
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  Speaker 2: you know that they were showing different different crafts, and
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  Speaker 2: they were saying, Okay, this is this is that's Chinese,
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  Speaker 2: this is Russian.
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  Speaker 4: You know, this is private sector, this is public sector.
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  Speaker 3: This is ours.
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  Speaker 2: That that they were also began to talk about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: capabilities and origins as well as some of the abduction
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  Speaker 2: phenomenon that they discussed that can you expand on that
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  Speaker 2: at all?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they did dive into that now in this meeting.
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  Speaker 1: And to remember, we don't have our phones on, so
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  Speaker 1: we're not able to take notes as we're as we're.
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  Speaker 3: Going through the meeting.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm an interesting when I'm reading a book, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people like stories and books, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: I want to get to the scripture and what is
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  Speaker 1: the what is the commentary surrounding the scripture? So when
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  Speaker 1: I'm listening to this, I'm the guy in the meeting
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  Speaker 1: kind of with a side eye like, okay, all right now, now, okay,
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  Speaker 1: give me where's the meat at show me the meat?
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  Speaker 1: Where is there a there there? And I was actually
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  Speaker 1: pushing in the meeting, how do I know that this
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  Speaker 1: isn't a sy op as an example, how do I
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  Speaker 1: know that this isn't part of petty fogging the issue,
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  Speaker 1: if you will, muddying the waters? And so my questions
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  Speaker 1: were answered satisfactorily. But yeah, they did go into some
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  Speaker 1: things and some of the some of the beliefs that
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  Speaker 1: about eighty to eighty five percent of what we see
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  Speaker 1: concerning UFOs u apiece is actually our technology. But then
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  Speaker 1: there is a ten to fifteen percent that is believed
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  Speaker 1: that that is unexplainable, that they don't know how to
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  Speaker 1: explain it. Take an example of and I'm giving this
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  Speaker 1: example of this seventeen day incursion over Langley Air Force
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  Speaker 1: Base last year, and they don't know what that was,
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  Speaker 1: even over New Jersey. I don't think we've gotten satisfactory answers.
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  Speaker 1: So I find that illuminating that eighty to eighty five
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  Speaker 1: percent is our technology. We have some pretty advanced technology.
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  Speaker 1: Where they got that, that's another question. But ten to
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  Speaker 1: fifteen percent of it we don't know. It could be
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  Speaker 1: enemy technology, it could be supernatural who knows.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: See, that's the important thing is as we again as
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  Speaker 2: pastors and leaders, and of course again our foundation is
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  Speaker 2: the scripture. As always in trying to provide a framework
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  Speaker 2: of that. I know that you and I were involved
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  Speaker 2: in the basically disclosure virtual conference that La Marzuli had
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  Speaker 2: back in January and giving a presentation there again trying
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  Speaker 2: to help people get back to the scripture and simply
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  Speaker 2: see it in that framework, because let's talk a little
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  Speaker 2: bit about you know, right at the same time time,
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  Speaker 2: at this at this meeting, you know, the next day
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  Speaker 2: Trump is out there giving it just happens to kind
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  Speaker 2: of coincide. Yes, maybe for the audience, talk about that
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  Speaker 2: as it relates to the framing of what we see happening,
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  Speaker 2: as it relates to you know, Trump and the FBI,
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  Speaker 2: and then potentially July, you know, the anniversary of Roswell
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  Speaker 2: for disclosure, kind of update the audience on that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, even looking at how this conversation started, even though
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  Speaker 1: we're thankful that it started and it's kind of humbling
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  Speaker 1: to be in the center of this conversation, we're still
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  Speaker 1: all of us who are part of it are kind
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  Speaker 1: of looking at it with a kind of an error suspicion.
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  Speaker 1: When Perry Stone's video came out twenty four hours ago,
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  Speaker 1: thirty six hours ago, whenever this was and it was everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: As I look back on it a few hours later,
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  Speaker 1: I started to think, that's really weird. How is it
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  Speaker 1: that his video was all of a sudden everywhere that
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  Speaker 1: clip with a similar description, Is that in any way
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  Speaker 1: forcing the issue was somebody is some organization as somebody
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  Speaker 1: behind that. So we're all kind of of looking at
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  Speaker 1: that and praying about that and making sure we're using discernment.
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  Speaker 1: And I think one of the most important questions is
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: did the meeting cause our message to change? The answer
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: is no, our message was the same before the meeting
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: as it was after the meeting, because, as you know,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: we've been diving into the subject matter for the last
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: few years, particularly in my ministry, we've kind of dug
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: into it, started doing research over the last I believe
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: five years into the subject matter. And when I got
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: the call to be in the meeting, they said the
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: purpose of it was it's going to start dripping very
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: very quickly, and then it's going to be slowly and
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, there's going to be this
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: massive disclosure. And the day after we have this meeting,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Trump comes out and says we're going to have to
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: declassify some of these files. And what's interesting now is
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: because of this Perry Stone clip myself responding to that,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: this has swirled into something that has forced the conversation
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: with different representatives who I think have are kind of
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: don't know what we've been saying. They kind of hear
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: the rumor of what we've been saying. But Trump just said, yeah,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have to rush. We're going to rush to
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: release these files. I think Cash Mattel also did that.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: So it's interesting that we've been talking about how this
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: is going to happen and then now we're kind of
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: being seems like used to do that, maybe by the
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: hand of God, but we're not altering our message. If
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: they were trying to pick people to use they felt
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: like they could manipulate, they picked the wrong people, because
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: all we're doing is telling people, listen, you better get right.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Jesus is coming. Yeah, exactly.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: And that's you know, going all the way back to
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: which really precipitated. I think LA's virtual conference back in
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: January was the Age of Disclosure documentary that came out
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: last Thanksgiving on Prime Video, and I remember talking to
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: La and he's like, oh, we need to you know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: we need to have this conference in December, and I
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: was like, well, that's way too early. Let let let
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: let the movie get out there a little bit and
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: then and then it'll give us time to actually respond
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: and more people will be aware of it. And then
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: of course we know what's coming in the sense I
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: think it's June twelfth. You have the Steven Spielberg movie,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: you know, the Day of Disclosure coming out, and so
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: comment on that in the sense of, you know, the
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: overall trajectory from Thanksgiving all through this coming up to June.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, as all this coincidence, I don't know. I mean,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: what's your thoughts.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. This is a full
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: court press. It has to be organized. There's no way
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: this is random. And the only question is will the
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: church be prepared for it? So I agree with you
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent that this is being orchestrated. They're rushing
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: this for some reason. And maybe maybe it's a distraction
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: from something some people say, they point to something in
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the news. Is there are we distracting from that? Maybe
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: maybe let's make sure. I think that's the goal of
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the enemy with everything, whether it be haunted houses or
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: ghosts or whatever the case may be, it's all a distraction,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: trying to pull people away from scripture, pull people away
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: from the Gospel, pull people away from the truth, because
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: the truth that you know is what makes you free.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: So if this is the case, and there are unseen
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: forces you know, conspiracy theory is a great way to
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: become a victim, and we are not victims.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: We are victors.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: This idea that there's an unseen force that we can't
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: control that's pushing this narrative, I think it's a very
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: dangerous view and there's nothing we can do about it.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Is a very dangerous view. However, there is an unseen force,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: there are organizations, there are global elites that are pushing
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: this narrative. I believe that's true. But there is something
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: we can do. We can prepare the church, we can
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: make sure that we take control of the narrative and
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: we let people know Listen, the Bible is has a
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: much more interesting story about all this subject matter, and
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: it has stood the test of time for centuries.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great reminder of again just getting back
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: to the word and let me ask you this, you know,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: using I always think in terms of, you know, maybe
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: a new believer or one of our brothers and sisters
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: who isn't you know, isn't as familiar with all of
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: the stuff and the languag that we're talking about. So
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: they might be asking the question, well, brother Allan, what
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: is the narrative? What is the narrative that I need
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: to be as a Christian on the lookout for. I mean,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I'm in bolden to the Gospel, to the v Jesus Christ.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: He's the only What is the government narrative? What even
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: would be potentially Satan's What would his narrative be that
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: he would try to infiltrate through the media or the
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: government or the press or whatever. Help us put describe
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: that narrative so that we can see it.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: That's such a good question, because we're not supposed to
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: be ignorant concerning the devil's devices. And I think throughout
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: your life and throughout history, you can see the enemy
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: doesn't take over all at once. It's inch by inch
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and pinch by pinch that the enemy tries to take over.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: And what was presented to us in the meeting, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: what I've preached and taught for many, many years, is
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: that what the enemy is going to do. This was
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: also the narrative in the conspiracy theory called Project Blue
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Bean that was first popularized in the nineties by a
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Canadian who suggested that there would be some sort of
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: cataclysmic event, a natural disaster that would uncover some ancient
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: religious texts that would show that the Bible was almost true,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that it's almost true. Close, but no cigar. And we're
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: going to have to rally together as a world and
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: gather together to create a one world global religion. And
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: then there'll be some sort of climactic armageddon type event
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: that simulated by these global elites to get the world
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: to come together. I think that is illustrated for us
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: of what the enemy will attempt to do with this,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: that there'll be some sort of disclosure. Maybe these entities
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: have a higher intelligence, whatever the case may be, and
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: they're going to share with us. Listen, it was very
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: close Jesus, he was one of us, or or he
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: was right on track. It was just a little bit off.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: And here's here's the truth. And I think that's the
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: danger of it that because it will appear to be
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: an ally with Christianity, that yes, we love Christianity, we
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: love Christians, we love the Bible, and it's mostly true
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: except for the parts where it's not. And that's where
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: it can get where people say, for example, the Bible
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: contains the Word of God. That's that's a very concerning
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: statement for me, because it doesn't contain the word of God.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: It is the word of God.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: If it contains the Word of God, that means they
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: believe portions of it are not, but portions of it are.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: And I think that's the danger. That's the narrative that's
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: going to be pushed forward.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the slippery slope.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I remember, you know, in dealing with any cults or
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: new age or whatever that phraseology. Well, yeah, I mean
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the Word of God is in there. It contains it.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: The Bible contains it.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Again, words are important, and so if we come back
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: the so let's say, let's fast forward to July. And
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: you know, Trump, he's kind of he's done a very
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: good job of teasing a little bit, almost almost being
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: coy to some degree, like, well, you know, some people
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: are interested in this. I'm not really interested in it,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: but there's others that are. So for you, for you,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: we'll get it out. And there's no doubt that Trump
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: desires to you know, he has uh, he has his
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: own personal foibles, but he wants to be potentially known
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: as a legacy as the as the disclosure president.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: So let's say he comes out and says.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: We're not alone, and then how far down that rabbit
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: hole do you think? And we're just speculating here, but
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: from what you understand and maybe what the briefers suggested,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: did they provide even a little bit more of a
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: narrative how it's going to be shaped by potentially Trump
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: or others.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, they did go into some into some detail on that.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: And when it comes to this document dump, whatever it is,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: we don't know whether this is going to be anything.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: It could be a big fat nothing burger, much like
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of the Epstein files were, for people to
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: just kind of roll around through thousands of useless pages
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and misinterpret this and misinterpret that. And that seems to
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: be a pattern of behavior by the way that there's
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: that they promised disclosure, disclosure, disclosure of this, We're going
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: to do this, and then nothing really happens, and then
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: they do it again until the point that we're just
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: kind of fatigued and we're just so inundated with all
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: this thousands of pages and none of it ever means
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: anything to the point that they'll be able to say anything. So, yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I've heard that potentially they didn't say this in the
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: meeting in July eighth, being the anniversary of Roswell, there
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: could be some disclosure.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: I think Trump would.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I think that he would wait until he's in trouble
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: or the narrative in the nation is gone askew and
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: he wants to take control of the conversation. That's when
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: he'll introduce the document's dump, or that we're not alone
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: in the universe, or that there are intelligence of non
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: human origin. I think that sounds more like Trump. However,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: you're right, he does want to be an historic legacy president.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: And I've heard they're already minting a coin as well
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: for the forty seventh presidency where there's a UFO on
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: the coin. So they're planning this that he is going
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: to be the president that's known for this. When it's
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: going to happen, and whether it's going to be all
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: it's cracked up to be, who knows.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just saw this morning, Uh you know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Kasha Mattel was asked and he said, oh, no, it's
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: the the the the initial the initial dump has already
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: been released, and so I'm not sure what that means
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: released to who and then what what medium is it
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: going to be released? And similar to you know again, well,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: maybe all those are going to be dumped, and maybe
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: they're being at this very moment, they're being uploaded to
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: aliens dot gov.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Right man, that's the new website, right.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Right, And so could be unless aliens dot Gov is
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: for immigration, which who knows, probably who knows what they're
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: gonna do with it. I am concerned with the incongruity
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: of JD. Vans and Trump laughing about this, especially JD.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Vance who says that he believes aliens are demons, and
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: he laughs about the subject matter, and so I don't get.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I don't get. That doesn't make sense to me. Those
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: two don't connect. You think their demons, you think they're real. Uh,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: this is going to be disclosed, and that's funny. Trump
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Trump also laughing about it, saying, well, I've spoken to
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: people from Central Casting. You know how he talks that.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: You know, this Air Force pilot who's handsome and strong
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and has all this experienced, very patriotic and very intellectual,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: and he's seen some things.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: But I don't know. Maybe you guys will think this
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: is interesting. I don't. I don't. I don't know. Uh,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: So I don't get the incongruity with this.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think Trump is attempting to I don't think
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: he's that deliberate in trying to manipulate the masses. I
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: think he says what's on his mind. Yeah, and so
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know why they're approaching it
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: in this manner. I do know there is going to
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: be massive document dumps that are coming, and we just
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: didn't make sure we don't we don't flip out sensationalize
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that fear monger.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Just stick close to scripture.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: So let's let's go back from it, because you can
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: go back to eighties, nineties, whenever.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Maybe he's even the earlier.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's even the sixties where we we have we
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: heard at least way back when you know the brookingss
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: is to they come out with this report that if there,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: if there was a disclosure transparent and see way back then,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: that the because the America was certainly back in the
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: fifties and sixties far more Christian that's way different now,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: but that it would it would turn, it would turn
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: the civilization or the society upside down because Christians wouldn't
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: be able to handle the idea of you know, some
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: other physical not just demons, but some other physical being
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: creatures however you want to call it from Zeta Reticula
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: or Alpha Centauri whatever, that somehow within the Christian paradigm,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: they would they would they would lose their faith. So
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: that's kind of always been kind of some of the
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: background to why the government at least that was their
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: reason for allegedly not presenting this information because they didn't
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: want to disrupt society. Well, I think that certainly society
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: now has been trained through all all the movies in Hollywood,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: et cetera. That and most people aren't even really Christian
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: or have a biblical world view. They're gonna be like, well, big, okay,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: well we watched you know, you know all these films.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, what have you told us that isn't there?
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: So do you think that if this dump that comes out,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: that if it absolutely proves that these are physical craft,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: like it's not just lights in the sky. I mean,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: we might, but these are physical craft potentially, as David
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Grush said, with physical biologics like non human biological beings,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: will that challenge the person in the pew and will
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: that challenge the Christian biblical paradigm?
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I think in the natural course of events, for true believers,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: this will be a blip on the radar. They will
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: be completely unmoved because these are people who love the Lord,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: who have been in the Word of God, who study
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the Word of God, who pray, who understand they are
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: spiritual entities at work. They activate themselves in spiritual warfare,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and they're involved in the great commission they're occupying until
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: as comes. For these people, it's going to have zero
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: impact on their faith and on their life. But you
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: know as well as I do, that a lot of
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: churches have turned into drama classes, teaching tears to act
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: like wheat, and so there's a lot of people sitting
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: in the pews who are just kind of sitting on
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: the fence, and it could have a tremendous impact on them.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: So perceptually there could be a great fallow way. There's
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of people looking for an excuse to not
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: go to church, to not be a part of any religion,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: to live their lives, and this will be that excuse.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: So if left on its own, even within society, I
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: don't think it would have that big of an impact.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: But with social media and with the way nothing mole
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: hills are turned into mountains, and this certainly isn't a
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: mole hill they're going to They've been training the algorithms
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: to teach us how to feel, how to react, how
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: to respond. They're going to be able to get whatever
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: reaction they want to get. If they want hysteria, they're
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: going to get hysteria. And so I wish I could
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: say cooler heads will prevail. I do think within the
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: church that will be the case. But in the world
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: they're going to need to see light and salt. They're
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: going to need to see people who are keeping their
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: heads and walking into peace of God, because I think
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the narrative is going to kind of push them to overreact.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, in one of the other kind
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: of you know scenarios is let's run with it for
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: a moment. In that in the sense of the narrative
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: that we we certainly know from New Age teachings for
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: a long time, pan spermia, you know, are alien, even
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: you go into some of the alien astronaut theory, you know,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: all of that whole paradigm that could it be part
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: of the narrative is hey, we've we've arrived. We're the
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: ones that seeded you again, where the where your ancestors,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: your were your progenitors and we but we've come at
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: this time for whatever reason. I mean, do you do
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: you see that as potentially part of the narrative?
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Could this all be a setup from the time Darwin
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: had his theory popularize? Was it all a setup to
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: get us to view ourselves in a different way less
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: than the image of God from that very moment? So
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I think we do need to watch the Darwinian evolution narrative.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Even with one of the scientists who recently is no
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: longer with us, was talking about p. Forty sevens and P.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Fifty two's you heard about that that there are ultra
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: humans that they're actually communicating with us from the future
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: and there's some sort of apocalyptic event and they're trying
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: to help us now. So I think you're right on
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: track with that, I think, and that's something that people
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: will buy into. You have people like Richard Dawkins, who
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: claims to be an intellectual, the author of the God Delusion.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: He believes panspermia that it is certainly possible that aliens
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: seated life here on this planet. He has said that,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: So it seems to be a narrative that even the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: most intellectual have already said they're willing to buy into.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, that's the thing.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: And for us, let me ask you this and going
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: back to some of the physicality. So let's say you know,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: a ship lands boom there, it is a physical ship.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: That's not an illusion.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: It's not Project Bluebeam there, it is nuts and bolts ship.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: What what what do you what do you tell people?
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Well, here's the question. This is what Troy Bruce says
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: all the time. The question is what do they say
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: about Jesus? Right, that's the question. What do they say
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: about Jesus when they get off that ship? So you can,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: we can get into the weeds and it's a fun
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: conversation of what are these things? Could it be this, this, this,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: this or this? The ultimate question is whose camp are
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: they in? What do they say about Jesus? And how
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: does it line up with the word of God? That
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: has to be our reaction. That has to be our
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: response and our reaction. So I think that's the that's
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: the way that we approach the situation, and we train
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: believers to approach it. Be prepared to see anything, be prepared.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I listen. I am thoroughly unimpressed with anything the devil does,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: no matter how supernatural it is, no matter what it
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: is I've seen orbs I've been with people like, WHOA,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: do you see that? I do see that, and I
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: do I do verify that that these pilots have no
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: idea what that is in the ground controls not being
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: able to identify that.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I'm still not impressed. I'm not impressed with.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: The enemy, and so we need to be trained to
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: be thoroughly unimpressed with anything the enemy puts in front
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: of us, and then ask this question, what do they
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: say about Jesus?
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: And that'll tell us everything we need to know. Yeah.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: I remember when I.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: In my presentation for the for the Virtual Conference, I
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: kind of ended on that, simply to say that if
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: the ship shows up and I happen to be there,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: and I want to go up and knock on the
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: door and say, hey, hey, yeah, I have one question
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: for you. Do you believe that Jesus came in the flesh,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Jesus of Nazareth flesh and is the Messiah, the Son
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: of God, and salvation can only be found through him alone.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Yes or no? That's all I want to know.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, yes and in no wiggle room. The answer
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: is yes or no?
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: And uh and and would you affirm that because there's
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: no doubt? I imagine that you know, we see in
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: first John two, right, the message of the anti christ
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: is you know that Jesus didn't come in the flesh
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: or whatever.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: You have a variety of things.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: But do you think do you think it is possible
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: that in asking that question, okay, that they would say, yes,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: we affirm that.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting, Well, no man can say that Jesus
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: is Lord but by the Holy ghost, right, and so
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: there and there are many what is it? Was it
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: in second John who said there are many many entering
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: into the world who deny that Jesus Christ is come
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: into the flesh. There's something about that that trips up
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: every cult that attempts to say it's Christian. There's something
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: that makes their skin crawl acknowledging that Jesus came in
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the flesh, that he's all God and he's all man.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: And I think that is the litmus test. I don't
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: think they would be able to say that. And if
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: they do say that, they say, all right, well, let's
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: go tell the whole world together that Jesus together is
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: the redeemer of the whole wide world. Yeah, that's right,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and the whole universe.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, because he is the creator of everything.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, our Ursel nineteen pictures attest
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: to the beautiful things that God has created out there.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: It's interesting too that we got to remember that, you know,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: said Grimany's eleven that the Satan appears as an angel
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: of light. And not only that, but it it says
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: in verse fourteen, and then in fifteen that and impulses.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: It's no wonder then that his servants, Satan's servants would
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: appear as ministers of righteousness, so they they can certainly.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I wonder if they would say, well, yeah, of course,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: in order to appear as a light promote righteousness, and
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: then later but say, oh, by the way, yeah, what
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: we really meant was a B and C.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Wow, Well I think we're in for it. We're in
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: for it for sure.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: And with technology, if a spaceship were to land and
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: some endity walk out, we're watching that. If we're watching
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: it on the screen, we know that what we're seeing
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: is is real.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Even if we're not watching on the screen.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: With the technology we have, how do we know that
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: this wasn't just completely fabricated by man or a genetically
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: engineered entity. How do we know it's not a bot?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just I was just amazed last night. I was
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: looking at some of these robots that they're creating and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: what they're able to do. There's nothing we can believe
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: unless it's in Genesis to Revelation. We just there's nothing
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: true except what's in that book.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: And we've got to cling close to it. Yeah.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: That that to me, that it all comes back to
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: this new age that we're in.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: We're not only were we in the AI age, which again,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: anything digital, whether it's visually on a screen or in
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: a phone, is one hundred percent suspect now. And really,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I think the enemy, Uh, I think the devil loves
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: that because now, I mean you and I could be
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: sitting there and we could be you know again, I
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: take a video.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Of Bigfoot there he is, there, he is.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I got it, but nobody would believe it because it's AI.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: It says the existence even the possibility of decisive truth
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: is now removed.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel bad for both bot almost like
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: he probably wants to be revealed by now and no
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: one's gonna believe it. No one's gonna believe it. We're
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: gonna get dog Man on video. He's gonna be finally
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I'm coming out, and no one's gonna believe.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: So as we uh, you know, as we as we
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: kind of think about over the next whatever a few months,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: we've seen we've seen some direction again over the last
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: few months, Like I said, all of a sudden, Now,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: why is this viral? Why is this viral from something
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: that happened a few months ago? There's there's definitely a reason.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Is it is it? Is it projecting or or guiding? Uh,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: you know, what's the source of it? So when if
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: we were to to summarize or sum it up the
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: the the perspective of the whole narrative of the alien
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: agenda or the alien presence, There's been a lot of
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: discussion within the Christian camp brothers and sisters, you know,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: talking about this where like Jdvans you brought them up, well,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: it's all demons. Well, to me, I like to clarify
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: things in my in my presentation, I did. So let's
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: clarify that because that's a little non specific. If we
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: want to just say demons is evil, then I'm fine
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: with that this This is evil, it has a nefarious agenda.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Certainly he's not promoting Jesus Christ, but it seems to
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: be a little simplistic simply to say, oh, aliens are demons.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: And here's here. I want to get your thoughts.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: On this, because every okay, jdvans it's alien that it's
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: all demons. Well, in the Bible, demons are disembodied, they're spiritual,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: they're they're they're not walking around with flesh and blood.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: We don't say they want to possess things, at least
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: in the Bible.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: So that's what makes me a little nervous is if
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: we run with the idea that, oh, the aliens are
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: just demons, but then something physical shows up, people are
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: gonna go, wait a minute, my I thought they were
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: demons because they don't look like a demon. So to me,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: that's I think that we have to we have to
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: be a little bit more careful in our in our nuancing,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: because I think that could potentially work against this.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Your thoughts on that, yeah, I agree, I agree one
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: hundred percent. And when we're having this conversation, when we're
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: talking with people in the world who we're trying to reach.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: We're trying to evangelize these people to act as though
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: you've given no thought to their position or what they're saying,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: that you've taken no time to consider, even though you
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: already have. You know, you spent years thinking about this.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: We have to listen to them, say, you know what,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: that's a really that's a really interesting point. Here's what
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I know from scripture, here's what I know from the Bible.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: And boomom boom, boom boom.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Because even though we may be as a church new
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: to the UFO conversation, relatively speaking, we are not new
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: to the supernatural. This is something that we are very
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: accustomed to, that we know a great deal about. And
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: here's what we know about the supernatural from our perspective.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: But I think you're absolutely right because you have this concept.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: There seems to be an idea and Bible prophecy of
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: the resurgence of the nephelum.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Could that be it?
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Could there be some sort of demonically inspired technology that
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: we're seeing. Could that be it? Could it be you know,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: there's a whole host of things that could be. And
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: again the question is just what matters is what camp
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: is it of what camp is it of That's what
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: we need to find out.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think as the as I talk with people,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I see that, you know, you think about you know,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: the lots of stories, you know, gray aliens.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I've talked to people who said, no, I've seen them.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I mean I've actually seen them, and so you look
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: and you go and they try to say, well, what
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: is it? And as far as I know, and talking
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: to every Christian or those that are involved in.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: This, nobody knows exactly.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, I haven't done an autopsy and not that
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: we that I've seen.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: What is that creature? What is that being?
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: And I look at it And one of the things
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I shared in my presentation is, look, I actually lean
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: towards the idea that that angels have corporeality, that they
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: have physical constructs to them. They're not just like the
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: opposite of a demon, which we don't have any physical
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: construct for them in the Bible.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: But angels show up Genesis eighteen nineteen.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: They're eating, you.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Know, and they're they're having dinner.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: And we know in Luke twenty four one of the
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: ways that Jesus shows up and they think he's a spirit,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: they think he's Casper the ghosts, and he says, wait.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Do you have any food here? Give me some food?
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: You know, you guys, you know even in his hand,
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: give me some food.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: So one of the ways that he showed his physical, new, physical,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: glor fed body was eating. And you think, according to
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Jesus theology, he says, first, a spirit doesn't have flesh
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: and bonus, you see, give me some food. And so
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: in the same way, in my mind, when you see
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: angels eating in the Bible, I find it okay.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: They can show up fallen angels or they seek to deceive.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Could they.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: One of the things that I heard coming out of
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: this one of the meetings was that these briefers were
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: discussing that the United States military and the deep projects
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: they have been involved in hybridization.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, one hundred percent.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: And when you think of the Angelic kingdom and you
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: look at all the descriptions of angels and how many
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: invaried they are, all the way from what we see
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: in Revelation to the four beasts, what we see in
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Ezekiel we see full of eyes. We see so many
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: different descriptions of angels, and the Bible says third of
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: them fell with Satan, and you have to wonder, what
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: if there's a diversity of the angelic hose that's similar
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: to the animal kingdom all the way from the giraffe
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: to the beetle, as far as how diverse and differing
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: they are and how they operate, how they function, what
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: they look like. Is that same diversity within the fallen
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: kingdom as well within fallen angels that can look a
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: variety of different ways. And as you said, is there
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: demonically inspired technology with all of this hybridization which we
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: know is going on. That's something that was discussed in
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: the meeting. We do know that there are hybridization programs
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: and they've been working on this for a long long time,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: decades and decades and decades. What have they produced that
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: we don't know about. In addition to that, something that
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I always bring up is, you remember when Nevi can
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Azer was cursed by God, he literally turns into a
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: beast yep, So could there be cursed individuals who appear
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: to be abnormal, completely different from a human being? Could
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: that be possible as well? So you're right, there is
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of nuance there, so long as we just
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: make sure we stay connected with scripture.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And one of the things that I shared was
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: again going back to the Bible. And to me this
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: is powerful because when you go back to Exodus four
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: and Moses is confronting Pharaoh, and then of course Pharaoh
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: has his occultic priests there, and you know, Moses throws
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: down his wooden staff and it turns into a steak.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, miracle of God. There you go. God. But they
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: did the same thing.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: You think, let's be Satan at least there granted God
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: had loud permission where they were able to appeal and
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: to turn something inanimate like a piece of wood into
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: a snake. Could they have turned it into Bigfoot? Could
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: they have turned it into a the dog man?
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Could? I mean?
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: In my mind, I think here we have a scriptural
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: precedent that, when granted permission for God's sovereign reasons, Satan
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: had the ability to take an inanimate object and make
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: it into something into really an animal of some kind
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: or a creature or could it be something else? So
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I find that's straight from the Bible that we cannot limit.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: This is where I think we have a biblical paradigm.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: If something shows up and go well, certainly Satan doesn't
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: have the ability to do that.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Where did you learn that at?
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: I think for deceptive reasons.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Could a like you said, maybe a fallen angel appear
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: shape shift into something and still be physical and appeer
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: and talk and be an angel blight?
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: That would come right out of the Bible. Yeah, we
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: have to be prepared for that. We have.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're warned about lying signs and wonders. Yes,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: even when we're warned against false prophets. Most of the
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: attack against false prophets is whether or not they were
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: accurate or not. But that's not the fullness of the attack.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: In scripture, the Bible clearly says there are false prophets
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: who are one hundred percent accurate.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: But the question is are they leading you away from
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: the God of your father's that's the question. So yeah,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: even when we even within the spirit field charismatic community,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the warning has to be stop following after signs. That's
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: when you're going to get into trouble. We don't follow signs, well,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: this happened, and this happened, and this well that's wonderful.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Let it happen. Let it follow you. You don't follow it.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: But the Bible says these signs will follow.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Them that believe in My name. So I think that's
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: the key.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: And as we move forward, as God intends to use
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: his people, let's not get the emphossis on the wrong salable.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Let's not begin to focus on the wrong thing. Look
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: at this sign, this amazingly. Let's be thoroughly unimpressed. I'm
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: not impressed when a prophet gets a prophecy accurate. That
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: does not impress me. What impresses me is their fidelity
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: to the word of God. That's what impresses me.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, because we see
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: as we enter the end of the age and you've
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: written you got you know, we interviewed you here on
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: your book on the rapture, and they like you about
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: the rapture, which is again phenomenal to prepare people. And
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: we see in second Theestillings too, this idea of when
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Satan appears, he's going to appear with all power.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: It says all power and Greek.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: It's very clear I was like all power in signs
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: and deceptive wonders. We see that in Revelation thirteen. You know,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: they're called down fire from heaven. It's to me.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: What you said is so perfect because when we think
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: about prophecy.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: In Deutere Army eighteen, God is giving this warning and
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: he talks about you know, if a prophet comes and
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: speaks a word and it doesn't come to pass, well,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: then obviously you don't need to fear that person. But
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: what people forget is do army thirteen? Where do you
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Army thirteen? God says, Look, if someone comes and shares
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: a word and it comes to pass, but they are
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: seeking to bring you away from me their message. He said,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: I'm allowing that to test you so that you will
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: seek and follow me. And so here what you just
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: said is so perfect because Doude Army thirteen, it's not
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: about the sign itself.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: It's about the message. Yes, and the message in the motive,
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: the message in the Yeah.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: So when we come to the end of the age,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: that's why I say, I think all of us would
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: be what is their message? Because the signs somebody's showing
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: up physicality, non physicality, I mean, all those things, the ship.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: I have no problem.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: It doesn't violate my biblical worldview to see that Satan
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: can do a lot of things that are real, But
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: what are they saying.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: We've kind of done a disservice by focusing on Deuteronomy
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: eighteen and giving no attention to Deuteronomy thirteen, and so
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: as a result, we set the church up to believe
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: that there's really no prophecy, and so we don't believe
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: any prophecy at all. Then someone's going to come along
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: and they're going to say something and it's going to
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: come to pass exactly as they said it. And these
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: people are totally unprepared for that, so they're going to
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: buy into it hook line and secret because they thought
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: all this stuff is just you know, it's not happening anymore.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: This doesn't happen any longer. So this must be God. No, no, no, nope, nope.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: It might not be God. It might be supernatural, but
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: it's not God. We need to make sure we stick
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  Speaker 1: close to the Gospel. That's the main thing.
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  Speaker 3: Amen. Amen.
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  Speaker 2: Well, any any as we think about all these things
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  Speaker 2: that are happening over the past, really weak, it's been
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  Speaker 2: quite phenomenal.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, you probab, we.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't realize that your attendance at some you know, small
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  Speaker 2: meeting was going to develop into.
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  Speaker 3: This never never.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, remember I said, I called my friends said
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  Speaker 1: should we do this, I'm be sure we want to
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  Speaker 1: go into this meeting. So never imagine this will be
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  Speaker 1: the case. But I pray this is just bringing people
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  Speaker 1: back to the word.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Amen, amen, And so I think as we as we
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: wrap this up, I appreciate Alan your time, of course,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm glad you were there because what we are
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  Speaker 2: seeing right now is all these people that the world
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  Speaker 2: is in social media, they're getting exposed to conversations like
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: this where you've been out and you've been able to
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  Speaker 2: share and which wouldn't have probably happened, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: at least in a different context.
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  Speaker 3: But God is going to use this for his glory.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, and I'm glad people are talking about it
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  Speaker 2: because again pointing people back to the scripture. So any
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  Speaker 2: any final thoughts for people, and then we'll wrap it up.
• 48:51
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  Speaker 3: Well, you're again, you're very very kind.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for thanks for coming on today, and everybody else,
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  Speaker 2: thanks for joining us again.
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  Speaker 3: Alan was there.
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  Speaker 2: Alan was there, and uh let's get some facts out there.
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  Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, Uh, get back
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  Speaker 2: to the Bible. Hold the Bible close, you know, don't
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  Speaker 2: follow signs, wonders, really anything else. The scriptures, what we
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  Speaker 2: hold on to. It is the living word of God.
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  Speaker 2: And that's that's the path forward for us. So thanks
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  Speaker 2: for listening and we will catch you next time.