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The Kenny Report | 4 September · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Live from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me tonight.
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Speaker 3: Federal labor and Victorian labor goes soft on Daniel Andrews,
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Speaker 3: even though he hangs out with murderous dictators and hands
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Speaker 3: China a huge propaganda win. But in an exclusive interview,
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Speaker 3: South Australia's Labor Premier Peter Malanowskis calls Andrews out. Labour
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Speaker 3: looks at changes to increase the number of federal politicians.
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Speaker 2: Don't let them FoST this one on us.
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Speaker 3: John Howard and Alexander Downer say Labour's move to recognize
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Speaker 3: a non existent Palestinian state.
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Speaker 2: Is reckless and dangerous. Alexander Downer will join me live
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Speaker 2: all that, a special preview of the AFL.
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Speaker 3: Fin Finals starting tonight, and a weekly wrap up with
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Speaker 3: Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson.
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Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
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Speaker 3: I've got to talk more about Daniel Andrews and China.
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Speaker 3: There's been plenty of fallout today. Of course, It's a
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Speaker 3: lot more than just Chairman Dan and China. It's more
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Speaker 3: than Andrew's being a guest of Chinese President Jijiping and
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Speaker 3: providing a propaganda coup for the Chinese dictator Sure by
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Speaker 3: turning up Andrew's made it look as though a liberal
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Speaker 3: democratic nation like Australia, a US ally like Australia might
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Speaker 3: actually support the Chinese communist dictatorships deliberately intimidating display of
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Speaker 3: military might and diplomatic heft. I mean, this was a
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Speaker 3: hell of a show. Just have another look. Yeah, Andrews
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Speaker 3: was effectively endorsing this display, which was actually intended to
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Speaker 3: challenge and even threaten liberal democracies like ours. That's how
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Speaker 3: idiotic it was for the former Victorian premier to attend.
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Speaker 3: Presumably Andrews saw some benefit in all this for himself,
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Speaker 3: because it certainly didn't help our national interest. It could
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Speaker 3: only hurt our national interests and those of other democratic countries.
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Speaker 3: But yes, it was even worse than all of that,
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Speaker 3: of course, because the man some people like to call
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Speaker 3: Dictator Dan for the way he ruled with an iron
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Speaker 3: fist during COVID, well, he stood with a lamentable collection
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Speaker 3: of despots. There he was with the leaders of China, Russia,
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Speaker 3: North Korea, and even Iran, a country that sponsors terrorism
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Speaker 3: around the world, a country whose ambassador has just been
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Speaker 3: expelled from our country because Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps was
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Speaker 3: behind anti Semitic terror attacks in Sydney and Melbourne. This
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Speaker 3: is simply disgraceful behavior from Andrews. It goes against everything
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Speaker 3: our nation should stand for. But most of his labor
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Speaker 3: colleagues are unwilling to condemn him.
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Speaker 4: Look, I'm unlikely to ever be invited to such an event,
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Speaker 4: let alone attend one, but that is ultimately a matter
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Speaker 4: for him. He's attended as a private citizen and I'm
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Speaker 4: not here to speak for Dan Andrews.
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Speaker 5: What do you think of Dan Andrews joining a line
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Speaker 5: of people greeting President she at this parade, which includes
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Speaker 5: Vladimir Putin and Kim John?
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Speaker 2: Well, do you like that Dan andrews caravan is.
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Speaker 1: Not meeting them?
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Speaker 6: I don't doubt that there's a You know that you've
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Speaker 6: got a level of concern about what a private citizen
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Speaker 6: has done here. In my job, the Foreign minister's job,
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Speaker 6: the Defense minister's job, the Prime minister's job, the Trade
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Speaker 6: minister's job is to act consistent with Australia's nest of
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Speaker 6: interest with a sense of purpose.
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Speaker 1: And we've done that.
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Speaker 2: Pathetic, isn't it?
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Speaker 3: Just call it out Andrew's successor, Victorian Labor Premier Jacenta Allen,
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Speaker 3: actually put out a statement saying it's good for Victoria
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Speaker 3: that Daniel Andrews is held in such high regard by
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Speaker 3: the people of China. Really, I doubt Andrews is held
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Speaker 3: in high regard anyway. More likely, he's regarded as one
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Speaker 3: of those Western dupes that the Soviets dubbed useful idiots
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Speaker 3: because they further the propaganda aims of communist regimes. Federal
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Speaker 3: Opposition leader Susan Lee took up the attack in parliament.
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Speaker 7: With dictators, despots and war criminals like Vladimir Putin and
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Speaker 7: King Jong Un. Will the Prime Minister show the necessary
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Speaker 7: leadership to join with us and so many other labor
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Speaker 7: leaders in this condemnation. What message does it say when
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Speaker 7: the Prime Minister of this country doesn't have the spine
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Speaker 7: to condemn his former flatmate Daniel Andrews for posing in
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Speaker 7: family photos with the Iranian president, a leader whose regime
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Speaker 7: has actively orchestrated attacks on Australian soil, and.
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Speaker 3: In keeping with his general weakness on national security and
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Speaker 3: foreign affairs.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister was tempered well that they are Deluluvians.
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Speaker 2: To speak.
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Speaker 8: I am not responsible for what every Australian citizen does.
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Speaker 8: My position is very very clear, which is we did
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Speaker 8: not send any government representative because it wouldn't have been appropriate.
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Speaker 8: None of my team would have sat in that position,
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Speaker 8: as simple as that.
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Speaker 2: So at least one Labor leader has called it out.
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Speaker 1: Look, I think it's a little stuf hardly. Mister Andrews
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Speaker 1: is his own private citizen. Now he can speak for
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Speaker 1: his own judgments. But like I said, I wouldn't have thought.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have thought it's a good judgment to be
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Speaker 1: in the company of some of those people.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll have more from the South Australian Premier in
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Speaker 3: that exclusive interview in just a moment. But too many
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Speaker 3: Labor politicians have failed this test. Are they prioritizing the
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Speaker 3: Labor Party above the national interest? Are they more interested
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Speaker 3: in protecting the reputation of their Labor Party comrade than
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Speaker 3: they are in standing up clearly and robustly for our
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Speaker 3: national values. There are more angles to be followed up here,
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Speaker 3: and it could become even more embarrassing for Andrews and
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Speaker 3: Labor is.
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Speaker 9: A Prime minister aware that Daniel Andrews has not disclosed
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Speaker 9: his engagement on the Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme Register. And
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Speaker 9: will the Prime Minister immediately write to his close personal
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Speaker 9: friend and form a flatmate seeking his immediate compliance with
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Speaker 9: the rect stuff.
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Speaker 8: It won't you complode with the It's as simple as that.
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Speaker 2: Look.
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Speaker 3: Daniel Andrews is a bloc who locked people in apartment blocks.
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Speaker 3: He forced a curfew on citizens, He locked them down
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Speaker 3: for months on end. He put a ring of steel
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Speaker 3: around Melbourne. He closed borders, shut playgrounds and scolded people
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Speaker 3: for looking at the sunset or getting on the bears.
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Speaker 3: Hanging out with dictators in the oppressive communist dictators of
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Speaker 3: China probably suits him.
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Speaker 2: Perhaps he should stay in China.
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Speaker 3: The Albanezy Labor government is reportedly looking at some electoral reform,
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Speaker 3: but typically they're looking at all the wrong ideas. Firstly,
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Speaker 3: they're pushing for four year terms in federal Parliament, something
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Speaker 3: that surprise, surprise, most politicians seem to support once they
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Speaker 3: get in there.
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Speaker 8: I support fixed four year terms, always have. Referendums are
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Speaker 8: pretty hard to carry in this country, and opportunism kicks
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Speaker 8: in and unless you have bipartisan support then it's not
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Speaker 8: going to be supported. I have no intention of any
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Speaker 8: referendums this term we've supported. If people want to go
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Speaker 8: out there and advocate and build support for it, that
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Speaker 8: would be a sensible thing.
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Speaker 10: Four year terms, yes or no, Mister Dutton.
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Speaker 8: I support four year terms, Prime Minister, Yes, but they'll
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Speaker 8: never support a referendum.
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Speaker 3: This is about idea. I'm sick of this argument that
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Speaker 3: if we give governments longer in power, they'll make better
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Speaker 3: long term decisions.
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Speaker 2: It's just not true.
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Speaker 3: We know it's not true because it's been tried and
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Speaker 3: tested all of the states.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: I've switched to four year terms over the past few
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Speaker 3: decades and the quality of state governments hasn't improved one
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Speaker 3: I owed it. In fact argue they've gotten worse and
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Speaker 3: it's been frustrating for voters having to wait longer to
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Speaker 3: boot them out. In the end, there's only one thing
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Speaker 3: that keeps politicians on their toes. That there's only one
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Speaker 3: way to hold them to account, and that's through elections.
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Speaker 3: If we lengthen the electoral cycle, if we give governments
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Speaker 3: power for longer without facing voters, we're giving politicians more
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Speaker 3: power and voters less.
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Speaker 2: So we should all oppose this and strongly.
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Speaker 3: Former Prime Minister Toney Abbott has dismissed this push pretty succinctly.
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Speaker 11: I've always taken the view that if there's a bad government,
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Speaker 11: an election can't come soon enough, and if it's a
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Speaker 11: good government, it shouldn't be scared of an election, So
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Speaker 11: I certainly would not be in favor of any change
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Speaker 11: towards four year fixed.
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Speaker 2: Terms spot on. The other change Labor is looking at.
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Speaker 3: Is increasing the size of the Lower House from the
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Speaker 3: existing one hundred and fifty MPs. Again, this is a
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Speaker 3: bad idea. We don't have a shortage of politicians. We've
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Speaker 3: got too many of them. What we should be doing
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Speaker 3: is changing the constitution to get rid of the guaranteed
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Speaker 3: five federal seats for Tasmania, so we get back to
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Speaker 3: one vote, one value nationally. And we should be reducing
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Speaker 3: the size of the Senate because the share of votes
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Speaker 3: needed to get a Senate spot has become ridiculously small.
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Speaker 3: That's why we get a Senate full of misfits. We
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Speaker 3: need fewer politicians, better politicians, and more accountability, not more
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Speaker 3: politicians and fewer elections. Let's go to Camber now and
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Speaker 3: catch up with Zoey Mackenzie, who's the shadow Assistant Minister
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Speaker 3: for Education.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us Zoe.
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Speaker 3: As a Victorian Liberal MP yourself. Your thoughts on Daniel
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Speaker 3: Andrews's performance in Beijing and is there any sanction, any
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Speaker 3: admonishment that should be coming from the.
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Speaker 2: Federal government.
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Speaker 12: Originally, Chris, when I saw the images, I almost thought
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Speaker 12: I was watching an American movie. The lineup literally looked
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Speaker 12: like something out of Thunderbirds. There they all were. We've
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Speaker 12: got Russia, we've got Iran, we've got North Korea. And
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Speaker 12: Dan Andrews one of the longest serving premiers of my state.
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Speaker 12: So it was quite a surprise. But I suspect he's
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Speaker 12: there obviously entirely in a personal capacity. I suspect he's
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Speaker 12: there because it's good for his business in his post
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Speaker 12: political life. But it was quite a shock. He's obviously
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Speaker 12: been condemned today by a number of his former colleagues.
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Speaker 12: I think Anastasia Palichet was quite clear that this was
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Speaker 12: a big no in her judgment to be amongst that lineup.
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Speaker 12: But interestingly the Prime Minister has refused to comment on it,
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Speaker 12: and let bygones big up bygones, I suppose, but it
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Speaker 12: is obviously quite a confronting imagery to see him there
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Speaker 12: with many people deeply opposed to Australia's stand on many
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Speaker 12: principles in the world at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Now, Alberniz, he's lying that. You know, he's a free citizen.
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Speaker 3: He can do what he's likes. There's no need to
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Speaker 3: really admonish him publicly. Is wrong, isn't it? Because he
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Speaker 3: has status as a former premier, he is there, whether
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Speaker 3: we like it or not. He's seen effectively as a
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Speaker 3: de facto representative of Australia. It damages our diplomacy, it
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Speaker 3: damages our national reputation, and therefore the Prime Minister should
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Speaker 3: be very clear about stating that so that China and
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Speaker 3: those other dictatorships know exactly where Australia stands well.
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Speaker 12: I think he was precisely invited there as a former
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Speaker 12: Australian senior politician. Based on the family photo that I saw,
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Speaker 12: it seems to be people of stature within the political
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Speaker 12: world in their relative countries. So he's invited really to
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Speaker 12: indicate Australia's participation in such an event, and for that
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Speaker 12: reason the Prime Minister could and should be able to
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Speaker 12: make a comment. I just suspect in this case the
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Speaker 12: Prime Minister's somewhat hampered by the fact they're really good mates.
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Speaker 12: You know, they flew into my electorate a couple of
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Speaker 12: years ago for a barbecue on a cliff top, and
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Speaker 12: he doesn't want to diss his mate in public.
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Speaker 3: I'll just go reading from a statement that has just
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Speaker 3: been put out by Daniel Andrews Zowie. I just share
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Speaker 3: it with people as quickly as we can. And you
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Speaker 3: know he's tried to justify his trip there. He says
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Speaker 3: that there's no confusion from me, and he's condemned Putin
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Speaker 3: in the past for his illegal war in Ukraine and
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Speaker 3: says he's been banned from Russia because of that. And
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Speaker 3: he also says that he's a strong supporter of Israel
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Speaker 3: and the Australian Jewish community community and therefore he's unequivocally
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Speaker 3: condemned Iran for its attacks in Australia and elsewhere. Well,
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Speaker 3: you don't back up those views, Daniel Andrews by turning
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Speaker 3: up and sharing a stage with these blokes.
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Speaker 2: Your actions don't meet your words. So that's the latest
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Speaker 2: from Daniel Andrews family. From the statement, I.
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Speaker 3: Just got to get to Yeah, Zoey Mackenzie, while we've
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Speaker 3: got you also, I've got to get your thoughts on Niru.
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Speaker 3: We find out this deal with NARU could be two
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Speaker 3: point five billion dollars over time. It's eerics of hypocrisy
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Speaker 3: because our Benizi and so many others in labor have
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Speaker 3: so lot, for so long condemned the Pacific Solution and
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Speaker 3: the sending of asylum seekers to Naru. Yet now they're
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Speaker 3: looking to send criminals there.
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Speaker 12: Honestly, I think we need to have a good hard
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Speaker 12: look at this government's actions in relation to our Pacific neighbors.
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Speaker 12: Earlier this week I rose in the Chamber to talk
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Speaker 12: about the Australian NAARU treaty that have been entered into
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Speaker 12: at the end of last year. That was meant to
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Speaker 12: give us some certainty about any future deals NAARROO might
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Speaker 12: deal do with our neighbors that may consider to be
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Speaker 12: a threat to Australia. So that deal was done in November,
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Speaker 12: and then in August there was another deal done for
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Speaker 12: a billion dollars between NAARU and some Chinese organization that
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Speaker 12: no one can actually find anywhere on the internet. The
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Speaker 12: good folks from the Department Foreign Affairs described it as
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Speaker 12: an investment proposal, but there's been no clear certainty what
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Speaker 12: this is for. Did we have any discussions, did we
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Speaker 12: know about it? The next thing you know, the Minister
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Speaker 12: for Home Affairs is flying to Naru urgently on the
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Speaker 12: weekend to do what's supposedly a four hundred million dollar deal,
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Speaker 12: but then, based on evidence given to the Senate last night,
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Speaker 12: may in fact be a two point five billion dollar deal.
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Speaker 12: I had a community forum on Sunday and I had
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Speaker 12: residents saying to me, seriously, I need help here, We
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Speaker 12: need help here.
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Speaker 2: My kids.
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Speaker 12: NDIS payments are about to be cut and we're spending.
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Speaker 2: All this money.
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Speaker 12: Now, I think people are happy to spend money when
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Speaker 12: it's for good outcomes, and it's for real security. Point
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Speaker 12: five billion dollars for a few hundred people, frankly to
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Speaker 12: make up for a message own making extraordinary yep.
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Speaker 2: We need to find out. We need to find out more.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, so I appreciate Zoey McKenzie there joining.
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Speaker 2: Us from Canberra.
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Speaker 3: Now I'm bringing the show to you tonight from Adelaide
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Speaker 3: for reasons that will become obvious.
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Speaker 2: And as I mentioned.
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Speaker 3: Earlier, I caught up with the State Premier here, Peter
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Speaker 3: malanowskis to discuss Daniel Andrew's immigration, electricity supplies and more.
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Speaker 2: Premier thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Chris.
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Speaker 3: What do you think of your former Labor Premier colleague
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Speaker 3: Daniel Andrews turning up in Beijing?
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Speaker 1: Look, I think it's a little startling. I mean, meeting
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Speaker 1: with Ggping or a senior Chinese official is not particularly unusual.
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Speaker 1: Prime ministers do that on a frequent basis. They're our
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Speaker 1: largest trading partner. But I think what was a bit
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Speaker 1: surprising to me was being in a photo with Vladimir Putin.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy that has brought war
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Speaker 1: to continental Europe for the first time since World War II.
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Speaker 1: He's invaded an entirely sovereign country and tens of thousands
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Speaker 1: of people have lost their lives as a result. You
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Speaker 1: said it would be catching me in a photo with Pudin,
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Speaker 1: That's for sure.
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Speaker 2: And King John Un and the President of Iran.
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Speaker 3: I mean this was a gathering that was really directed
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Speaker 3: against Western interest, against Western democracies, wasn't Daniel Andrews. Isn't
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Speaker 3: his presence there actually acting against Australia's national interest?
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Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I mean the countries that you
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Speaker 1: just listed. These are not liberal democracies in the way
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Speaker 1: that we subscribe to in this country. They are a
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Speaker 1: completely different value system that they've got, I mean, the
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Speaker 1: most egregious of which, of course his prudent's given the
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Speaker 1: carnage is brought to so many people's lives around around Europe.
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Speaker 1: And look, mister Andrews is his own private citizen. Now
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Speaker 1: he can speak for his own judgments. But like I said,
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't thought. I wouldn't have thought it's good judgment
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Speaker 1: to be in the company of some of those people.
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Speaker 2: But he's a former labor premier.
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Speaker 3: Surely he brings disservice to his political party, to the
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Speaker 3: labor movement.
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Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I don't always agree with all
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Speaker 1: of my colleagues on all sides of politics. There are
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Speaker 1: often points of difference, and clearly this is a pretty
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Speaker 1: stark one.
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Speaker 3: Should the Prime Minister say something about this admonish Daniel
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Speaker 3: Anders at least speak out against it.
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Speaker 1: I think our those values are also well known in
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Speaker 1: this regard, and I'm very grateful that the Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: has stood up as strongly as he has on behalf
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Speaker 1: of our country to pin in particular let's.
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Speaker 2: Go to immigration.
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Speaker 3: The federal government announced the permanent migration intake for this
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Speaker 3: year will be one hundred and eighty five thousand, the
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Speaker 3: same level as last year.
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Speaker 1: Does which is a number that's down on years before that.
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Speaker 2: Are you happy with that number?
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Speaker 3: Do we need to see a decrease in immigration numbers
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Speaker 3: in this country or is that.
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Speaker 2: Sort of level?
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Speaker 1: Well, I think we have a decrease in it. Well not.
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Speaker 1: I think we have seen a decrease in immigration numbers
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Speaker 1: over time, and I think that's prudent given some of
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Speaker 1: the challenges have got around the country. My personal view
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Speaker 1: is that skilled migration still has an important role to
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Speaker 1: play within our country. We've seen a lot more value
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Speaker 1: brought to Australia through migration than costs. That's self evident.
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Speaker 1: We are a migrant nation by definition, and certainly I
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Speaker 1: think about it in the South Australian context. We're at
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Speaker 1: full employment. There are skills gaps everywhere you look.
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Speaker 3: Isn't that show we're stuffing up immigration? Though we've had
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Speaker 3: record levels of immigration, yet we've still had skills gaps,
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Speaker 3: so surely we're not bringing in the right people.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think the bigger challenge we've got here is
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Speaker 1: making sure that we've got adequate housing supply and that's
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Speaker 1: been my focus. I think this Australia's got a housing
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Speaker 1: supply crisis far more than it's got a migration crisis,
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Speaker 1: given the migration numbers have been coming down, and when
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Speaker 1: young people feel a sense of dejection or incomparabi city
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Speaker 1: to participate in the housing market, which is so central
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Speaker 1: to our way of life in this country, then we've
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Speaker 1: got a major problem. And that's where we've been all
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Speaker 1: in as a state government, introducing a whole range of
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Speaker 1: policy measures that the ABS now recognizes as delivering the
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Speaker 1: fastest housing growth in the country and we will sustain
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Speaker 1: that effort.
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Speaker 3: Now, South Australia leads the nation when it comes to
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Speaker 3: renewable energy input or renewable energy share, also leads the
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Speaker 3: nation in electricity prices.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's not always true, Chris, Generally true that we
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Speaker 1: have been periods where that has been true, but not
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Speaker 1: so much recently. We see the DML offers in other
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Speaker 1: parts of the national electricity markets.
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Speaker 2: Are still the most extensive electricity.
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Speaker 1: There are other states and other jurisdictions that now have
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Speaker 1: prices that exceed South Australia. But that doesn't take away
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Speaker 1: from the fact that we still think that power prices
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Speaker 1: are too high.
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Speaker 3: And you're just looking at extending the life of the
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Speaker 3: Torrens Island gas generated Now, doesn't this just prove the
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Speaker 3: point that you can't have mainly renewables electricity grid, you
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Speaker 3: need to have gas generation or cold generation to supplement it.
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Speaker 1: Well. I would challenge anybody Chris to find a more
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Speaker 1: pro gas jurisdiction or maybe Western Australia, but more progas
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Speaker 1: jurisdiction and South Australia particularly in the role that gas
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Speaker 1: plays in providing firming services to renewables. We have been
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Speaker 1: consistent for a long period of time now and I'm
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Speaker 1: a strata an advocate for gas playing a critical role
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Speaker 1: in the transition. But as it stands right now, we
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Speaker 1: need more gas in this country, not just for industrial purposes,
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Speaker 1: but firming purposes of renewables South.
21:36
Speaker 3: Australia the transition, though it needs to be there permanently
21:40
Speaker 3: for firming.
21:40
Speaker 1: Well, the firming role. We would not be at eighty
21:43
Speaker 1: percent renewables in South Australia not for gas playing a
21:47
Speaker 1: critical firming role and we want to see more of
21:49
Speaker 1: it We believe in it deeply. My governor enjoys a
21:54
Speaker 1: really good working relationship with both Beach and Santos as
21:57
Speaker 1: the major gas produces in our state. We resisted the
22:02
Speaker 1: former Liberal governments effort in South Australia to lock up
22:05
Speaker 1: some gas reserves in South Australia. We resisted that effort
22:09
Speaker 1: when the LIPS were trying to stop gas extraction in
22:13
Speaker 1: the southeast of South Australia. So we are very much
22:16
Speaker 1: a progress labor government because we know it plays such
22:19
Speaker 1: a critical role in actually the transition towards renewables.
22:24
Speaker 3: Now, is the nuclear energy debate over in this country?
22:26
Speaker 3: I'm conscious South Australia of course exports uranium. You're going
22:30
Speaker 3: to be building nuclear submarines here. Surely the potential for
22:33
Speaker 3: nuclear energy it's not going to happen next month, next year,
22:37
Speaker 3: in the next decade probably, But is.
22:38
Speaker 1: That debate over Well, My view has always been consistent
22:41
Speaker 1: about this. I think nuclear energy has a critical role
22:43
Speaker 1: to play in the decarbonization of global energy markets, and
22:48
Speaker 1: that's an opportunity for South Australia given that we are
22:50
Speaker 1: home to one of the largest economic reserves of uranium
22:53
Speaker 1: anywhere in the world. In the terms of the nucleus
22:57
Speaker 1: role within the domestic energy market. However, I don't see
23:01
Speaker 1: anything changing until it becomes economic, and that's for me,
23:04
Speaker 1: that's always been the clear question. It's not about safety,
23:06
Speaker 1: it's always been about the economics of it. And if
23:09
Speaker 1: nuclear technology evolves into the future that it becomes economic,
23:12
Speaker 1: then clearly that I'll invite a different question, but it
23:15
Speaker 1: feels like we're a long way from that. A long
23:17
Speaker 1: way from that.
23:18
Speaker 3: Let me ask you about a parochial issue of South
23:21
Speaker 3: Australian issue, but should be national interest in this? And
23:24
Speaker 3: this is of course the live golf tournament going to
23:27
Speaker 3: the North Adelaide golf Course, now the North I used
23:29
Speaker 3: to hack around the North Adlaid golf Course.
23:32
Speaker 2: You wouldn't find a better public.
23:34
Speaker 3: Course anywhere in the world. I don't think you'd see
23:36
Speaker 3: you off there looking over the city. Does it surprise
23:40
Speaker 3: you that the move to upgrade that course and use
23:42
Speaker 3: it for live and it will still be a public
23:44
Speaker 3: course is getting all sorts of opposition, including now from
23:48
Speaker 3: indigenous interests.
23:49
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't surprise me because we've seen this every
23:53
Speaker 1: time there's been a major investment like this in South Australia,
23:56
Speaker 1: there's always a coterie of people that were seek to
23:58
Speaker 1: resistant and fight without laid oval, and now everyone claims
24:01
Speaker 1: it as a success. We even have it building a
24:04
Speaker 1: new aquatic center in our parklands. The same will be
24:07
Speaker 1: true here. We're determined to get this done. It's actually
24:10
Speaker 1: a very modest investment in the scheme of things and
24:12
Speaker 1: what it brings alive is this amazing golf course that
24:16
Speaker 1: is in this truly unique location. Not many other CBDs
24:19
Speaker 1: in the world have anything like it, and all we're
24:21
Speaker 1: doing is upgrading it to make it into a world
24:23
Speaker 1: class standard to have a international Toumai. I think it's
24:26
Speaker 1: a bit of a no brainer. The resistance is coming.
24:29
Speaker 1: I anticipated that we're just going to focus on getting
24:32
Speaker 1: things done.
24:32
Speaker 2: When it comes to the indigenous opposition to it, has
24:36
Speaker 2: your indigenous voice, your state based indigenous voice already become
24:39
Speaker 2: a right across your own.
24:40
Speaker 1: Back because they haven't expressed any opposition to that. There's
24:44
Speaker 1: been members of the Garner community who are i think
24:47
Speaker 1: quite reasonably raising questions about what will happen to Aboriginal
24:51
Speaker 1: heritage if any of it is disturbed, and there is
24:53
Speaker 1: a process that is pursued under the Aboriginal Heritage Act.
24:56
Speaker 1: That is well and truly in train and that is appropriate.
24:59
Speaker 1: But as yet the Voice hasn't expressed any opposition to
25:02
Speaker 1: the proposition.
25:03
Speaker 3: You're not going to the foota tonight as a Port
25:05
Speaker 3: Adelaide manager rooting for a Adelaide victory.
25:09
Speaker 1: There's a trick question that's been coming my way a
25:11
Speaker 1: little bit. I want to see a great game of
25:13
Speaker 1: footage for tex Walker, who I quite like. I think
25:16
Speaker 1: is a good fella, and he's got a three hundred
25:18
Speaker 1: games tonight. I wish him every success. But you're going
25:21
Speaker 1: to be barracking for the Black Yeah, it's good for
25:24
Speaker 1: the state of the Crows. They're up and about right
25:26
Speaker 1: and that's good for the state. But I don't know
25:27
Speaker 1: many too Crow support. It's like you, Chris, that were
25:29
Speaker 1: barrack for Port Adelaide last never never. Thanks for joining
25:33
Speaker 1: us my pleasure.
25:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to stick with your team, mark my words.
25:38
Speaker 3: This live golf, the world standard golf in the middle
25:41
Speaker 3: of the CBD.
25:42
Speaker 2: Right in the heart of Adelaide.
25:44
Speaker 3: That's going to be a big win when it eventually happens. Now,
25:47
Speaker 3: after that interview, though, I wanted to fact check of
25:49
Speaker 3: course what we're talking about there when it came to
25:51
Speaker 3: electricity prices and I said and as I said there,
25:55
Speaker 3: it is still the case. The South Australia has the
25:57
Speaker 3: highest prices, the highest penetration of renewables, the lowest power
26:01
Speaker 3: reliability and the highest power bills in the country. Just
26:05
Speaker 3: look at these three price comparison sites that we checked on.
26:08
Speaker 3: One says South Australia has the highest electricity prices.
26:11
Speaker 2: In Australia at average prices.
26:14
Speaker 3: Another says around the country of thirty three cents a
26:17
Speaker 3: killer what are but South Australians face the highest rates
26:20
Speaker 3: and another summary that says South As usually pay the
26:23
Speaker 3: highest electricity bills.
26:25
Speaker 2: So there you go on this topic. It doesn't really
26:28
Speaker 2: matter what politicians say.
26:29
Speaker 3: What matters is the numbers on your power bill and
26:33
Speaker 3: they don't lie.
26:34
Speaker 2: We've got to get to a break on the other
26:36
Speaker 2: side of that.
26:36
Speaker 3: I'm going to catch up with Anne Webster to talk
26:38
Speaker 3: about Albanizi's BS. Now, as we've shown you before, the
26:47
Speaker 3: Prime Minister faced a fiery crowd at the bush somewhere
26:49
Speaker 3: in Ballarat last week. Heckled over the reckless renewables rollout.
26:54
Speaker 8: People need to be treated with respect and that is
27:00
Speaker 8: what I am doing through my presence here and I'll
27:03
Speaker 8: continue to engage, but I won't bullshit people.
27:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, that bulldust about bulld Us has really come back
27:12
Speaker 3: to bite him, as we've been showing you all week.
27:14
Speaker 3: But not long after all of that, of course, the
27:16
Speaker 3: PMS modicade was chased out of town by farmers on tractors.
27:20
Speaker 3: It was a pretty funny site and Webster, the Nationals
27:24
Speaker 3: Member for Mali, followed up in Parliament.
27:27
Speaker 13: The Prime Minister told the Bush Summit and I quote,
27:30
Speaker 13: I won't BS people. The Prime Minister promised Australians are
27:35
Speaker 13: two hundred and seventy five reduction in their energy bills
27:38
Speaker 13: prior to the twenty twenty two election. Hasn't that now
27:42
Speaker 13: proven to be BS? Is this broken promise the reason
27:46
Speaker 13: why the Prime Minister was chased out of town by
27:49
Speaker 13: a convoy of tractors.
27:51
Speaker 8: I'm always prepared to front up. I've run up write
27:55
Speaker 8: in seats right across this Parliament.
27:59
Speaker 3: And Webster now joins me live from Canberra. Good to
28:02
Speaker 3: talk to you again, and I know you had a
28:03
Speaker 3: question again today referencing something that the PM had got
28:08
Speaker 3: wrong and using this BS line again, We've had a
28:11
Speaker 3: bit of fun cutting together a compilation of a BS
28:14
Speaker 3: things that Prime Minister's gotten wrong. Promises that he's broken
28:17
Speaker 3: and that BS comment at Ballarat might come back to
28:21
Speaker 3: haunt him time and time again.
28:25
Speaker 13: Well, Chris, I certainly hope so, because he deserves it.
28:28
Speaker 13: I've had a question every day this week and called
28:33
Speaker 13: him out on his BS from the fact that he
28:36
Speaker 13: says he wasn't chased out of town by tractors the
28:41
Speaker 13: evidence you've just shown. He said that he is the
28:45
Speaker 13: first PM in forty years to go to Horsham. That
28:49
Speaker 13: also has been proven to be BS because Tony Abbott
28:53
Speaker 13: was there in twenty fifteen as Prime Minister, and even
28:58
Speaker 13: Michael mccormacks, acting Prime Minister under Scott Morrison, was also
29:04
Speaker 13: in Horsham. So there have been a range of Prime
29:07
Speaker 13: Ministers who have been in Mali, but specifically in Horsham.
29:12
Speaker 13: And look, honestly, I don't think he can get his
29:15
Speaker 13: facts straight.
29:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, he keeps getting it wrong.
29:19
Speaker 14: Now.
29:20
Speaker 3: He had a hard hit back at you today because
29:23
Speaker 3: he was quoting some of the things you've said in
29:26
Speaker 3: the past that are positive about renewable energy.
29:29
Speaker 2: Here's some of the Prime minister.
29:31
Speaker 15: This is someone who was committed to renewables in that
29:34
Speaker 15: part of the world. Seventh of octobert twoenty twenty, Dr
29:40
Speaker 15: Webster welcomed announcements she said would benefit the Mallee electorate.
29:46
Speaker 3: So and Webster explained this one to us, because I
29:48
Speaker 3: don't think there's anybody in the coalition or anywhere else
29:51
Speaker 3: who's saying there should be zero renewables, renewable energy or
29:55
Speaker 3: some share of the energy market.
29:57
Speaker 2: The energy mix is going to be there forever. But
30:00
Speaker 2: what is your attitude to renewables in Western Victoria? Has
30:04
Speaker 2: it changed over time?
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Speaker 13: Absolutely, it's changed over time because I happen to listen
30:11
Speaker 13: to my community from one end of it to the other.
30:14
Speaker 13: And it is absolutely plain that Victorian Labor and the
30:18
Speaker 13: Federal Labor government have completely botched the role out of renewables.
30:25
Speaker 13: There are other answers that they are not looking at.
30:28
Speaker 13: Chris Bowen has made it his goal in life. Shall
30:33
Speaker 13: we say to make Australia all renewables. Well, look at
30:37
Speaker 13: what happened to Spain a week after they became one
30:40
Speaker 13: hundred percent renewables. The entire greed crashed. There needs to
30:45
Speaker 13: be common sense policy. The Coalition has always said that
30:49
Speaker 13: we are technology agnostic. We will look at everything, including
30:54
Speaker 13: nuclear but we need to look at everything, which is
30:57
Speaker 13: what the Nationals particularly are focused on.
31:00
Speaker 10: That.
31:00
Speaker 13: As Susan Lee, as the opposition leader, has made clear,
31:04
Speaker 13: the Coalition will also be coming up with policies that
31:07
Speaker 13: are technology lot I could even say the word technologically agnostic.
31:13
Speaker 3: Technologically agnostic. Indeed, thanks for joining us and I appreciate it.
31:17
Speaker 3: And Webster they're joining us alive from Cameber. We're going
31:19
Speaker 3: to get to a break. John Howard and Alexander down
31:23
Speaker 3: Alexander Downer have had a swipe at Labor over its
31:26
Speaker 3: recognition of Palestine.
31:28
Speaker 2: Alexander Downer will join me live.
31:34
Speaker 3: In a highly unusual move, the former Prime Minister John
31:37
Speaker 3: Howard has joined with Alexander Downer, who was his Foreign
31:40
Speaker 3: minister throughout the Howard government term, to issue a statement
31:45
Speaker 3: condemning Labour's plan to recognize the non existent state of Palestine.
31:50
Speaker 3: The statement outlines how the Palestinian territories meet none of
31:53
Speaker 3: the official criteria for statehood. To recognize Palestine prematurely is
31:59
Speaker 3: not just poor diplomacy, Howard and Danna say, it is
32:03
Speaker 3: a betrayal of the legal order that underpins the very
32:07
Speaker 3: idea of a rules based international system.
32:11
Speaker 2: Those who value.
32:11
Speaker 3: International law and who understand the hard lessons of conflict
32:15
Speaker 3: resolution should resist such a reckless and dangerous course.
32:21
Speaker 2: Alexander Down joins me now, as he does every Thursday,
32:24
Speaker 2: live in the studio. Good, just talk to you, Alexander.
32:26
Speaker 3: Why have you and John Howard not only issued this
32:29
Speaker 3: unusual joint statement but been so strong about it.
32:32
Speaker 14: Well, there are two things here. One is that we've
32:35
Speaker 14: been outraged that Hamas has been rewarded in this way
32:39
Speaker 14: by the Australian government. It's a shocking thing to do.
32:43
Speaker 14: I mean, your viewers don't need to be reminded of
32:46
Speaker 14: the horrific crimes that Hamas has committed. But also it's
32:51
Speaker 14: an organization determined to destroy Israel, So there's that rewarding
32:58
Speaker 14: an organization like that. And secondly, I mean I've known
33:02
Speaker 14: noticed people who are supporting the Palestinians are always going
33:06
Speaker 14: on about international law and the importance of international law. Well,
33:11
Speaker 14: the recognition of a Palestinian state is quite contrary to
33:15
Speaker 14: international law because it doesn't meet any of the four criteria.
33:20
Speaker 3: There's no borders, no effective government, what are the other quoterias.
33:25
Speaker 14: Yes, I mean it's particularly no borders and particularly no
33:31
Speaker 14: effective government. I mean the place is ungovernable and the
33:36
Speaker 14: moment Albanese says he's been given reassurances by the chairman
33:41
Speaker 14: of the President of the Palestinian Authority Abbas that Hamas
33:50
Speaker 14: won't rule any longer in Gaza, but he has no
33:53
Speaker 14: capacity to do that. So the only way you'll get
33:57
Speaker 14: Hamas out of Gaza, unfortunately, is through military action.
34:01
Speaker 3: Now, there will have been a lot of decisions, even
34:04
Speaker 3: specifically in foreign affairs, that you and John Howard.
34:07
Speaker 2: Would disagree with, that this government has taken over the
34:10
Speaker 2: past four years.
34:12
Speaker 16: Why is this.
34:13
Speaker 2: One so important for you to speak out now?
34:15
Speaker 3: Why do you think this has such an impact globally
34:18
Speaker 3: but also for Australia's posture.
34:20
Speaker 14: So it has an impact globally because liberal democratic countries
34:24
Speaker 14: around the world need to stick together and need to
34:28
Speaker 14: work together, exchange intelligence, support each other. And in this
34:33
Speaker 14: particular case, Israel is one of those liberal democratic states
34:38
Speaker 14: on the front line of a war against Iran and
34:42
Speaker 14: Iran's proxies, and we Australia, always having been a champion
34:49
Speaker 14: of the liberal democratic world, have decided that we will
34:53
Speaker 14: abandon Israel and thereby weaken the liberal democratic world. It's
35:00
Speaker 14: a shocking thing, and I think both John Howard and
35:03
Speaker 14: I feel very betrayed by the government. It's not as
35:07
Speaker 14: though Hawk or Heating, or you know, going all the
35:12
Speaker 14: way back to Dr Evett Chiff Lee. It's not as
35:15
Speaker 14: though the Labor Party has been in an opponent of Israel.
35:20
Speaker 3: Speaking of Western liberal democracies, when you've got Jiji Ping,
35:26
Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un and Daniel Andrews in a picture,
35:33
Speaker 3: that whole gathering in China surely is a tilt against
35:37
Speaker 3: Western liberal democracies. What damage has Daniel Andrews done to Australia,
35:42
Speaker 3: And forget about his reputation, what.
35:45
Speaker 2: Damage has he done to the national interests?
35:47
Speaker 14: He just embarrasses the country. He's just a huge embarrassment.
35:50
Speaker 14: But after all, why would we be surprised. Here's a
35:53
Speaker 14: man who locked down the whole of Victoria for longer
35:57
Speaker 14: than any other place in the world other than Argentine
36:00
Speaker 14: was lockdown, So locking people up and locking places down
36:04
Speaker 14: and restricting freedom, he will feel very at home in
36:09
Speaker 14: Sheeting Ping's China. But seriously, it's just a huge embarrassment
36:14
Speaker 14: for the Labor Party in particular. It's humiliating for the
36:18
Speaker 14: Labor Party that particularly Daniel l Andres. But let's face it,
36:22
Speaker 14: Bob Carr as well, that these two people would be
36:26
Speaker 14: involved in this. You know what, can you call it
36:29
Speaker 14: a dictator fest?
36:31
Speaker 2: Really?
36:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exactly what it was, a dictator fest. Yeah,
36:34
Speaker 3: thanks for joining us, Alexander. I know you're off to
36:36
Speaker 3: the footy finals tonight, so am I king.
36:38
Speaker 2: The best hope for this.
36:39
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Alexander down here live in Adelaide.
36:42
Speaker 3: You've got to love footy finals so you can smell
36:44
Speaker 3: them in the air at this time of the year,
36:46
Speaker 3: the year and certainly it's all kicking off at the
36:48
Speaker 3: Adelaide Oval tonight. I'm going to be just straight down
36:51
Speaker 3: the road after this show where the Crows are taking
36:54
Speaker 3: on Collingwood. It's going to be a cracker of a game.
36:57
Speaker 3: And to preview the finals, I special guest joining us.
37:01
Speaker 3: He used to be the chief footy writer for the
37:03
Speaker 3: Herald Sun and for years he co hosted the best
37:06
Speaker 3: TV show I reckon outside Sky News that is AFL
37:08
Speaker 3: three sixty on Fox. He is, of course Mark Robinson
37:12
Speaker 3: and he joins me. Now, Robbie, welcome aboard. This final
37:16
Speaker 3: series looks like it's going to be a cracker, doesn't it.
37:19
Speaker 16: Yeah, thanks Chris for having me. Yeah it should be.
37:22
Speaker 17: I think the AFL is dying out for having a
37:25
Speaker 17: good final series.
37:26
Speaker 16: They're under the pump, the AFL.
37:27
Speaker 17: On a lot of a lot of levels and they
37:31
Speaker 17: need footy to start, and it starts tonight.
37:34
Speaker 16: We go back to the.
37:35
Speaker 18: Hot bed of Adelaide Oval two weeks ago where Isaac
37:39
Speaker 18: Rangon found himself in trouble cracking game.
37:44
Speaker 16: Isaac got five four weeks but that'll be put to bed.
37:50
Speaker 16: The Isaac Rangon will be put to bed.
37:52
Speaker 18: And has been a very very poor week for the AFL,
37:55
Speaker 18: and I think for football.
37:57
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, it's been pretty ugly, hasn't it. And we
38:03
Speaker 3: can't wait for the ball go up in the game
38:05
Speaker 3: to start tonight. I'll be there obviously barracking for the Crows,
38:08
Speaker 3: but you could make a case for just about every
38:11
Speaker 3: team in the top eight this year, couldn't you.
38:13
Speaker 2: It's a pretty even spread. Obviously the top four are
38:15
Speaker 2: in the box seat, but it seems to be pretty open.
38:19
Speaker 3: Who do you think is going to Who's going to
38:22
Speaker 3: get all the way through.
38:23
Speaker 16: Come on, mate, they'd have been Stirling Gins. He's going
38:27
Speaker 16: to win it. The bottom four sides, I've always got.
38:32
Speaker 17: The taffatas they're going to win four in a row
38:35
Speaker 17: against the best teams in the competition. So I don't
38:40
Speaker 17: think anyone outside the top four top four can do it.
38:44
Speaker 16: I think the winner of Brisbane and Geelong will be
38:47
Speaker 16: in the box seat. And if the Crows win tonight they.
38:51
Speaker 17: Get a home Bloomery final, then God help anyone who's
38:55
Speaker 17: going to go to Adelaide in front of fifty two
38:57
Speaker 17: thousand Bros fans.
38:58
Speaker 18: And have a winning the finals. So they could get
39:01
Speaker 18: there as well. I mean, if Collinwood they can win tonight,
39:05
Speaker 18: they nearly won last game, they nearly won.
39:07
Speaker 16: Against the Crows. They or did thirty odds inside fifties
39:11
Speaker 16: more well, they just couldn't. They couldn't stick, the couldn't
39:14
Speaker 16: stix goals.
39:15
Speaker 18: So if they can win to nine, you know everyone
39:19
Speaker 18: I'll be thinking Collinwood are right back in.
39:21
Speaker 16: The box seat.
39:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think you're right, And I think
39:26
Speaker 3: over the last six games there's only been about twenty
39:29
Speaker 3: five points all up between Adelaide and Collingwood. So I'm
39:32
Speaker 3: hoping it's not that close tonight. I'm hoping the Crows win, win,
39:35
Speaker 3: and win easy. When you talk about no one from
39:37
Speaker 3: the bottom four being able to get through, what about
39:40
Speaker 3: g w wes Giants. Aren't they just about capable of
39:44
Speaker 3: beating anyone? But as you say, they'd have to do
39:46
Speaker 3: it four times said that last year.
39:49
Speaker 18: Pitt and they gave up two fourth quarter leads to
39:53
Speaker 18: lose two matches last year, and everyone thought that last
39:57
Speaker 18: year was going to be it.
39:58
Speaker 16: They're bringing a few players by Hagen Stringer, I don't
40:03
Speaker 16: know how much fit they are these.
40:05
Speaker 18: Finals games, and you've seen a lot and a lot
40:07
Speaker 18: of the viewers have seen these finals.
40:09
Speaker 16: It is a jungle and you've got to be matt hardened.
40:12
Speaker 18: And I wonder if they're bringing in a couple of
40:15
Speaker 18: players who are going to be underdone and the Hawks,
40:19
Speaker 18: the Hawks are going to play high, high intensity footing,
40:23
Speaker 18: so you know they can do it, but they've got
40:28
Speaker 18: to win four in.
40:29
Speaker 16: A row and that's a that's a big ask.
40:35
Speaker 3: And just finally, how significant is it for the AFL
40:38
Speaker 3: that the Gold Coast Sons are playing their first final
40:42
Speaker 3: fourteen years?
40:43
Speaker 16: It's very significant. It's significant for the game.
40:46
Speaker 17: Of course, the it's the AFL team and they want
40:49
Speaker 17: them to do well, even though there's a couple of
40:51
Speaker 17: bets going on that was revealed this week.
40:54
Speaker 16: Maybe some in the AFL we're being against.
40:56
Speaker 18: Them, but fourteen years the game me strengthening in Southeast Queensland.
41:03
Speaker 18: If they can knock over Fremantle at Freemantle, I have
41:07
Speaker 18: put the enormous pressure on just a longbing of.
41:10
Speaker 16: The coach of the doctors, but what it would do
41:13
Speaker 16: for the national game. I can't be boored.
41:16
Speaker 18: And Damian Hardwick he played in two, he played in
41:19
Speaker 18: two premierships, he coached three at Richmond.
41:23
Speaker 16: Now he's gone to the goal coach.
41:24
Speaker 11: Now.
41:24
Speaker 16: I don't think they can win it.
41:25
Speaker 18: This year, but if you can get another premiership the
41:27
Speaker 18: next couple of years at the Gold Coast, signs that
41:30
Speaker 18: puts Damien Hardwick in the upper echelons of the coaching list.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely great to talk to you, Robo. Thanks for joining
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Speaker 3: us and we'll catch up with you next week. Robert
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Speaker 3: there on the footy. It's great to have him back
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Speaker 3: on the telly. We've got to take a break now
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Speaker 3: on the other side of the catch up with Tim
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Speaker 3: Blair and Mark Dicklson. We'll discuss Dan Andrews' communist dictator fest.
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Speaker 3: Let's catch up now with the Daily Telegraphs Tim Boyce
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Speaker 3: and Mark Nicholson from step Mate Studios.
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Speaker 2: Tim, we were.
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Speaker 3: Talking about Horsham earlier. Your wonderful hometown Horsham's been making
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Speaker 3: the news in the federal political debate.
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Speaker 2: That's got to be heartening, doesn't it.
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Speaker 5: Not only are we making the news, but Robo himselfie
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Speaker 5: saw earlier on this show. Great to see him looking
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Speaker 5: so well after his battles earlier. He of course played
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Speaker 5: football in Horseshap, so it's a Horshap night here on
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Speaker 5: Sky News.
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Speaker 2: Fantastic.
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Speaker 3: I didn't know that I knew, I knew he was
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Speaker 3: in the bush, but he's at the other end of
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Speaker 3: the victoria at the moment. Is Robo used to play
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Speaker 3: footy in Horsham?
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Speaker 2: There you go.
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Speaker 3: Now, I've got to get your thoughts on Dictator Dan.
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Speaker 2: Mark. I mean, this is just extraordinary what we've seen
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Speaker 2: him do.
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Speaker 3: Mark Knight has got this wonderful cartoon in the Herald
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Speaker 3: Sun today where you've got Dictator Dan and a host
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Speaker 3: of other dictators going for the selfie.
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Speaker 2: There has this surprised you?
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Speaker 10: Well, at first I thought it was ai to be honest,
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Speaker 10: I think that was my immediate reaction. I was like, surely,
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Speaker 10: surely he's got more tact than this than not to
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Speaker 10: just go ahead like not even care to hide it anymore.
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Speaker 10: But it's one hundred percent real. I was genuinely kind
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Speaker 10: of shocked. But like we were going around for years
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Speaker 10: calling him dictated Dan, you know Chairman Dan Manchuri and
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Speaker 10: Dan an asset of the CCP, and we were called cookers,
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Speaker 10: we were called crazy. I had a conspiracy wall up
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Speaker 10: in my office of linking it all together.
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Speaker 1: And I feel completely vindicated, Like I knew this was
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Speaker 1: the truth.
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Speaker 10: I just can't believe he was this reckless to be
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Speaker 10: able to do it. It just shows how much of a
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Speaker 10: trader and how treason is he really is that he
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Speaker 10: just doesn't even care anymore. He's just letting it all out.
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Speaker 1: It's mental. Like there was a Victorian member.
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Speaker 10: Of Parliament last week they got in trouble for likening
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Speaker 10: him to Stalin in relations to the in relations to
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Speaker 10: the statute, and she.
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Speaker 1: Was called unfair. This is just last week she was
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Speaker 1: called a cooker. And unfair, and I think it is.
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Speaker 10: Unfair to Stalin, to be honest, Stalin, you know, he
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Speaker 10: built stuff, The trains ran on time, He was a
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Speaker 10: snappy dresser. He never wore a north face jacket to
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Speaker 10: a press conference. But have a look at him now,
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Speaker 10: he looks He looks well at home amongst a sea
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Speaker 10: of dictators crazy times.
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Speaker 3: It is just extraordinary, tim, isn't it, Because this is
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Speaker 3: the point. You know, there was the Builton Road initiative that,
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Speaker 3: of course Andrews signed up to for Victoria and had
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Speaker 3: to be overturned by the federal government. And we're all
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Speaker 3: talking about him basically dancing to China's tune, and.
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Speaker 2: You're worried that you're being too strong on this Stacey space.
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Speaker 3: He couldn't really be that much in the lap of China.
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Speaker 3: Yet he turns up there and goes through this He
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Speaker 3: is effectively the Manchurian candidate.
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Speaker 5: Well what about his claim that he could you know,
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Speaker 5: it was it was really important for him to be
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Speaker 5: there so he could talk to regional leaders. And then
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Speaker 5: he ran off a list of names of people who
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Speaker 5: aren't leaders anymore.
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Speaker 1: That was interesting.
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Speaker 5: But also now to merge that, of course he was
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Speaker 5: on television on Chinese state television, where you're always going
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Speaker 5: to get you know, the hard questions are going to
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Speaker 5: be asked in that forum. But he's is he saying
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Speaker 5: China do and great guns, great guns with all the
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Speaker 5: renewable energy. They deserve a lot more credit. The man
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Speaker 5: is just a sucker to a modern day regime that
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Speaker 5: is historically right along the same levels as Mark says
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Speaker 5: with Stalin, with Hitler, with the worst of the worst,
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Speaker 5: and here he is kissing up to him.
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Speaker 3: He actually put out a statement that I read out
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Speaker 3: earlier where he's saying that he opposes Pudin and he
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Speaker 3: opposes the terror rest sponsors in Iran. Well, if you
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Speaker 3: oppose these people, you don't stand on a podium with
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Speaker 3: them looking.
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Speaker 2: At all sorts of missiles and weaponry go past. That
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Speaker 2: kind of is a mixed message. I would have thought
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Speaker 2: I want them, but it's speaking of weapons.
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Speaker 3: I want to go to something else out of the US,
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Speaker 3: and I will show you this footage of where the
45:44
Speaker 3: US military has taken out a boat that was allegedly
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Speaker 3: bringing drugs into the US. The boat was coming from
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Speaker 3: Venezuela and you can see here that US military take
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Speaker 3: out the boat and eleven people apparently are killed as
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Speaker 3: a consequence. And Tim, you've drawn our attention to what
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Speaker 3: JD events. The Vice president has has had to say
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Speaker 3: about this when he was asked about the legal premise
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Speaker 3: for this sort of action. They have a look at
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Speaker 3: the Vice president.
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Speaker 13: I'm a Venezuela Bassal.
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Speaker 3: You know, professor straight what legal authority were you guys
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Speaker 3: working under?
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Speaker 13: And will there be an after.
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Speaker 19: Work on the straight Well, I'm sure they're going to
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Speaker 19: be an after report. I mean the legal authority and
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Speaker 19: I want to talk about these kids, is that there
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Speaker 19: are people who are bringing literal terrorists, who are bringing
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Speaker 19: deadly drugs into our country, and the President of the
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Speaker 19: United States ran on a promise of stopping this poison
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Speaker 19: from coming into our country.
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Speaker 3: Another question, Yeah, Tim, this bloke went to an ivy
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Speaker 3: league college and has got a law degree, but he
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Speaker 3: didn't worry about the technicalities.
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Speaker 2: Of the law. He was more interested in political promises.
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Speaker 5: This is a straightforward bay of addressing things and quite
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Speaker 5: aside from his stellar educational qualification obviously prior to that,
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Speaker 5: jod Evans, he's a good appalation boy who see things
47:05
Speaker 5: rather clearly. And I advise everyone who needs a bit
47:08
Speaker 5: of background on a man who potentially will be the
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Speaker 5: United States next president to read his biography, in which,
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Speaker 5: among other characters who have mentioned is his grandmother who
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Speaker 5: I think once shot a man at the age of
47:21
Speaker 5: twelve for trying to steal a family cow. So he
47:24
Speaker 5: comes from good stock.
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Speaker 3: He sure does. Read hill Billy Elegy. I can't recommend
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Speaker 3: that highly enough. I've read it. I don't know ten
47:35
Speaker 3: years ago when before he went into politics, but it's
47:38
Speaker 3: a fantastic insight into his upbringing and so, as you say,
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Speaker 3: the common sense approach he brings to politics. Hey, I
47:45
Speaker 3: want to bring it back to Australia now and your
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Speaker 3: hometown there, Mark, because the crime wave and the crime
47:51
Speaker 3: crisis in Victoria keeps making headlines and the latest incident
47:55
Speaker 3: was a home invasion into the house of the former
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Speaker 3: AFL coach and AFL commentator now Mick moldhouse, and he's
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Speaker 3: hurt himself actually chasing these home invaders down the street apparently.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, not good, mate, not good. It's you know, it's
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Speaker 10: yet another thing. This is just another example of Melbourne
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Speaker 10: just adding another pin to its jacket, isn't it? About
48:19
Speaker 10: were youth crime. We've got machetes, we've got this. We're
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Speaker 10: attacking coaches, we are taxes, We've got everything. It's the
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Speaker 10: place to be Melbourne, isn't it great? And we don't
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Speaker 10: even have the footy tonight like it used to be
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Speaker 10: the home of footy. We don't even have the footy tonight,
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Speaker 10: so we can't even do that. Well we can do
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Speaker 10: is just attack our coaches.
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Speaker 1: It's it's not on, mate, it's not on.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing is with Mick Moldhouse.
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Speaker 3: He's in his seventies now, but I still wouldn't want
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Speaker 3: to grapple with him.
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Speaker 2: I reckon, you wouldn't want to have him right, just.
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Speaker 5: Quickly, Chris. There's been a couple of cases where we're
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Speaker 5: the bad guys. Mistakes one of them. Now, obviously he's
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Speaker 5: breaking in the mixed mix house and you wouldn't want
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Speaker 5: to take him on even at seventy two.
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Speaker 16: But a few years.
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Speaker 5: Ago some idiot as if he broke into a house
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Speaker 5: owned by Jeff Finnick. Good move, really, good move there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you picked the wrong house that time. Now we
49:10
Speaker 3: all are amazed at Greta Tumberg and how she switches
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Speaker 3: from climate action to the pro Palestinian stance.
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Speaker 2: Apparently, she says, there's an obvious link. Have a look.
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Speaker 20: I do not understand how people cannot see that connection.
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Speaker 20: In what ways are Palestine and climate justice not connected?
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Speaker 20: Of course, there are the obvious links between climate justice,
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Speaker 20: environmental destruction and Palestine, which is a wars, occupations, environmental degradation, ecoside,
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Speaker 20: huge emissions. Are they go hand in hand?
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Speaker 3: Now, Mark, you're going to have to help me out here.
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Speaker 3: Listen to what she said. I read a transcript to
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Speaker 3: what she said, and.
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Speaker 2: I don't understand the connection.
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Speaker 10: Stay in school, kids, that's the message line, Stay in school.
49:59
Speaker 10: She's skipped far too much school. I think we're all
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Speaker 10: dumber for having listened to that. But she's she missed.
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Speaker 10: The easy thing here is that the connection between climate
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Speaker 10: change and Palestine is very simple. It's that neither technically exist.
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Speaker 10: That's the answer.
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Speaker 2: Ah, what do you reckon? Tim?
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Speaker 5: I just love that her basic After all that gimmish
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Speaker 5: and she used a lot of words, and she looked
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Speaker 5: a bit unsure of herself, but she eventually got to
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Speaker 5: the point that the thing they have in common is
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Speaker 5: they're bad. They're just bad, and one day we're going
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Speaker 5: to see in the museum, say the Smithsonian, which is
50:37
Speaker 5: all very woke these days. We will see the bucket
50:39
Speaker 5: that gave her haircut, which is which I think is
50:41
Speaker 5: going to be an important artifict.
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Speaker 3: Great stuff, guys, great to talk to and special to
50:51
Speaker 3: mention for you mark your first Father's Day as a
50:54
Speaker 3: father coming up this weekend, so you have a great weekend.
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Speaker 10: On the buddies, Boucher's Boys and having other's day.
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Speaker 2: Eli Mate socks.
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Speaker 3: You're gonna get lots of socks and have a great
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Speaker 3: Father's Day everybody. Just time for some of your feedback
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Speaker 3: on Dan Andrews that he's tripped to China.
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Speaker 2: One viewer says it's jaw dropping, it sure is.
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Speaker 3: And another viewer has told us that Dictator Dan got
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Speaker 3: the Golden handshake for the job he's done. That's all
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Speaker 3: the time we got for you tonight. I'm just going
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Speaker 3: to dom this little scarf and head down the road
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Speaker 3: to the Crow's Collingwood final.
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Speaker 2: You have a good night. Peter Kredlin is up next.