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Gilmore Girls Gazette: Parenthood: Painful Truths (Season 1 E11 “Solace”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Let's kiss you.
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  Speaker 3: Yell more Girls Gazette with Amy Sugarman and Danielle Romo,
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  Speaker 3: an iHeart Radio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: All right, y'all, we're back for another episode of Parenthood,
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  Speaker 1: Season one, Episode eleven.
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  Speaker 3: Great episode. I laughed out loud and remember why? Well,
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  Speaker 3: we'll come to it.
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  Speaker 1: So Zeke shakes things up while staying with Adam and
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  Speaker 1: Christina as Camille immerses herself in her art.
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  Speaker 3: I need to know who played this is an assignment
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  Speaker 3: for Jackie. While we talk who played the guy that Camille?
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  Speaker 1: We have seen him, so many seen him and it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna buy.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, let's just get to it. Do you
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  Speaker 3: need Did you finish this?
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  Speaker 1: No? I haven't yet. Okay. Julia turns in an old
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  Speaker 1: flame to help her dad, upsetting Joel. Meanwhile, Amber feels
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  Speaker 1: guilty about Hattie and krassby consider settling down with Jasmine
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  Speaker 1: and Jabbar.
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  Speaker 3: What's the title of this episode, solace? Okay, let me
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  Speaker 3: start right out the gate. Amber. Should she have even
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  Speaker 3: told Hattie?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: You think? Yes? She did the right thing by telling.
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  Speaker 1: Because otherwise good old Steve would have said something.
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  Speaker 3: M hm.
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  Speaker 1: She did the right thing. She's a right thing for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Tough.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, now I remember where I saw
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  Speaker 1: him from. Okay, so like I had to plays Matthew,
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  Speaker 1: uh huh? Is his name is Joaquim de Almedia. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: if you watched Queen of the South, you good know
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  Speaker 1: exactly who it is.
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  Speaker 3: That's not how I know.
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  Speaker 1: It is one of literally my favorite shows ever. It
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  Speaker 1: was Camillea Vargas's husband in the show.
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  Speaker 3: I know him from something different, so that's good for
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  Speaker 3: those people I know him from. I don't know him.
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  Speaker 3: He's been in everything fast X, but that's not how
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  Speaker 3: I know him. By the way, I'm having a hot
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  Speaker 3: flash right now, like everybody to know. If you listen
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  Speaker 3: to the Gazette, you know what it's like hit Man's bodyguard.
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  Speaker 3: I'm having a massive hot flash. I know him from something,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't know what it is. But this guy
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  Speaker 3: is super recognizable. Revenge the TV show. The other one
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  Speaker 3: is Tim.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's okay, whose storyline do you want to
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  Speaker 1: break down first?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, start with Amber and Hattie. I feel like Amber
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  Speaker 3: told Hattie too soon or something. I just don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think Amber did the right thing. I think, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the second that Hattie invited her to the sleepover to
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  Speaker 1: be basically bashed on Steve, she should have said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: before I did this lumber party, got something to tell you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I look, I think Amber did the right thing in
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  Speaker 1: doing that because Steve rightime. I feel like Steve would
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  Speaker 1: have fumbled that if Amber didn't, and it's better that
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  Speaker 1: it came from Amber versus Steve. I did love that
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  Speaker 1: they broke Steve CDs. That felt very much of my
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  Speaker 1: childhood and things that we would have done in high schoolcause.
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  Speaker 3: I'm of the mixed tape Europe. But then we did
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  Speaker 3: burn CDs, but I never broke them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like it seems like I remember my boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: used to give me mixed CDs all the time. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, that was such a thing.
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  Speaker 3: Same thing, just tapes, right, But yeah, I know, I
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  Speaker 3: think she did the right thing.
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  Speaker 1: I do. I'm still bamboozled that Steve is played by
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I actually really thought about that a lot, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't even watch Housewives, but I see him differently now.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, no, it's it.
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  Speaker 3: Tim was in something else. We know. Also, let's go
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  Speaker 3: to Tim because that was hilarious. Sam Jagger, why do
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  Speaker 3: I always forget his name? Sim Jigger's Jewel Joel just
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  Speaker 3: making fun of Tim and everything with them, and then
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  Speaker 3: at the end when the daughter goes m or whatever
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  Speaker 3: she did. So.
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  Speaker 1: Tim is played by Matthew Donnegro, and he was from something.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like Scandal or something like that, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's kind of done a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like that guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at his IMDb.
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  Speaker 3: I always noticed him by his white teeth. He was
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  Speaker 3: on NCIA, let's see, on Scandal. I know I'm from
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  Speaker 3: I know from something Scandal sixteen episodes. That's where I
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  Speaker 3: knew him.
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  Speaker 1: The West Wing. He was on the West Wing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all his gibber jabber about real estate. Though
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  Speaker 3: I think Joel's right. Joel's like, no, we're not doing that.
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  Speaker 3: I'll go and figure this out. Like I like Joel.
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  Speaker 3: He was on Joel and Sam Jigger is so good
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  Speaker 3: on Handmaid Stale also, so can can we give that
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  Speaker 3: guy his props or full hours?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes we can.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I find I find this to be interesting because
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  Speaker 1: there is a little bit of hypocrisy in this storyline,
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  Speaker 1: in the sense that like Joel and Raquel, and Julia
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  Speaker 1: was like, hey, I don't like Raquel. I don't like Raquel, YadA, YadA.
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  Speaker 1: And Joel was like.
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  Speaker 3: It's fine.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want our friend our kids to be friends?
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  Speaker 1: Do you want do you want her to lose her
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  Speaker 1: bff over your you were indifferences and the fact that
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  Speaker 1: Jewels or that Raquel made him move on me or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: right he had that that was the whole storyline in
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the series. And now Julia is not
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  Speaker 1: even into Tim to let Tim come for dinner, right,
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  Speaker 1: But then he was like no.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no, that's because Tim is that guy.
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  Speaker 3: Tim was full of pretty cents on the dollar, come
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  Speaker 3: on out, no California real estate.
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  Speaker 1: He was. And I think this was the first time
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  Speaker 1: he was established that Joel was like a contractor, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like I didn't know that before. I feel like Joel's
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  Speaker 1: going to come in and save the day.
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  Speaker 3: I do too, weirdly, and I can't even remember.
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  Speaker 1: Like I do feel that. I feel like Tim is
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  Speaker 1: going to do whatever, He'll go away at some point.
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  Speaker 3: First he's gone. I think Tim's gone for now.
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  Speaker 1: It was just one and done.
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I don't think we ever see Tim again.
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  Speaker 1: I do like it, though, I do.
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  Speaker 3: It was funny, good fodder between the two of them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're also like seeing like the two types of
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  Speaker 1: men Julia could have ended up with totally, and we.
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  Speaker 3: Learned it was her prom day.
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  Speaker 1: Right right, And in any other world you Julia matches
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  Speaker 1: up more with Tim, But I love that she's with
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  Speaker 1: Joel totally.
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  Speaker 3: I like, there's a lot happening in this episode, and
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  Speaker 3: I like it. Let's go to save uh Bonnie Badelia
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  Speaker 3: for the end, Let's go to Dax and Joy Bryan.
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  Speaker 3: They were real cute having that dinner.
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  Speaker 1: Right right.
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  Speaker 3: What else happened with that?
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  Speaker 1: And Crosby was shopping for homes and you see that
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  Speaker 1: that's where the real estate agent's like, so many people
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  Speaker 1: are gonna be in here?
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  Speaker 3: You still, I don't know. Maybe definitely the piano, the
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  Speaker 3: moving of the pm I was pretty hilarious to It
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  Speaker 3: just reminded me of Pivot.
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  Speaker 1: Pivot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was funny. Those four together. You never see
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  Speaker 3: those four together, and that was great. It was Joel,
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  Speaker 3: it was Adam, it was Crosby and Sarah's son.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Drew. All I can say is that I've never
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  Speaker 1: seen a lighter piano in my entire life.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure it was like a fake piano, couch
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  Speaker 3: for the thought was a fake couch, and I thought
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  Speaker 3: about that.
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  Speaker 1: It has to be. Yeah, like Crosby, Jasmine and Jabbar,
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  Speaker 1: they're they're good, they're good.
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  Speaker 3: Did he get the place? Did he get the place?
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  Speaker 1: It didn't say we don't have the payoff there. We
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  Speaker 1: don't have the payoff that I remember. But he's definitely,
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  Speaker 1: you know, really interested in that house and it and
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  Speaker 1: he's in this like weird crossroads where he's like, do
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  Speaker 1: I am I shopping for myself? Or am I shopping
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  Speaker 1: for a family? Right, so you see that kind of
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about Bonnie Badelia.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I thought you wanted to say it to the end?
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  Speaker 1: Did you want to save it to the end?
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  Speaker 3: Did I skip somebody? Adam and Manica Potter, everybody's kind
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  Speaker 3: of really a round Zeke oh Zeke kind of trying
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  Speaker 3: to take over the house and get Max a dog.
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  Speaker 3: When Max the turtle, I know another part that made
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  Speaker 3: me laugh. The turtle's missing?
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  Speaker 1: Did you look and see you away?
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  Speaker 3: Where you left him? So good?
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  Speaker 2: It is so good?
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  Speaker 1: It was so so.
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  Speaker 3: So good. And then I love that he saw Adam
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  Speaker 3: taking care of Max.
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  Speaker 1: And realizes that he's a good dad and that he
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  Speaker 1: never did that for his kids.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was really good.
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  Speaker 1: And also just awkwardly saying, hey, Hattie, great job for
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  Speaker 1: not having Oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: And she's just like thanks Grandpa, Like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, if my grandfather ever told me that,
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  Speaker 1: I would have just I would have done that. Homer
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  Speaker 1: Simpson disappears in the bushes. It's just been like and
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  Speaker 1: I'm gone.
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  Speaker 3: It was so hilariously a lot. Zeke is a lot,
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  Speaker 3: but also there's more to the story. I think with Zeke.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he made some good points, like you haven't
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  Speaker 3: been married forty seven years. And also, uh, we don't
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  Speaker 3: know what Camille's doing. I feel like Camille's just boun
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  Speaker 3: So are we too assume Camille slept with the guy?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, brutal? All right, so let's dig into that.
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  Speaker 3: Sarah Rudal, Oh all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, let's dig into that. So Camille is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: down right, and Sarah is you know, is heartbroken for
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  Speaker 1: her mother after Camille tells her that Zeke had had
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  Speaker 1: an affair. Essentially, so Sarah, I mean, Camille is going
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  Speaker 1: to a work party or not a work party and
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  Speaker 1: art club, like yeah, all the people in our art
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  Speaker 1: group are are going to this art gallery whatever party.
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  Speaker 1: And so Sarah's like, I'll go with you, right, And
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  Speaker 1: so they're both dressed to the nines. My heart broke
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  Speaker 1: when go over and call Camille all dressed up, and
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  Speaker 1: he literally was like like where you go? You know, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oh my heart broke so bad.
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  Speaker 3: You look beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that was so sad, but yeah, I mean whatever.
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  Speaker 1: They go to the party and Camille's like, oh, this
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  Speaker 1: is my art teacher, and they were flirty, flirty, flirty flirty,
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  Speaker 1: and Camille evens is like even just tell Sarah like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go to this next hit the road
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  Speaker 1: Jack like leave me alone. And I think at that moment,
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  Speaker 1: Sarah knew that like her mom was gonna do.
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  Speaker 3: She randomly says something, has an outburst with that random
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  Speaker 3: and then weirdly, they had a subtle mention for Sex
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  Speaker 3: and the City too. Did you hear that there's a
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  Speaker 3: mention for Sex and the City too. That's why at
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  Speaker 3: first I thought, is this guy in Sex and the
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  Speaker 3: City Too?
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  Speaker 1: But what would you have done in that situation? Like
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  Speaker 1: you just vomit, but you gotta let your mom do
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  Speaker 1: what she's gonna she.
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  Speaker 3: Is but it's so cringedastic, You're just like, and they
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  Speaker 3: have been separated for all of one day, Like that's
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  Speaker 3: the other thing.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, Oh, I think yes, but I think also not.
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  Speaker 1: You can tell that they haven't been you know, they've
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  Speaker 1: been dealing with this for a while now. Just everyone knows, right, how.
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  Speaker 3: Does everybody know? Or do only Adam and Sarah? Only
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  Speaker 3: Adam and Sarah.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean the four kids know that the.
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  Speaker 3: Money problems, but I think only Adam and Sarah at
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  Speaker 3: this point.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you're right, right? And would you would you say
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  Speaker 1: in this instance, this is a debate which can leave
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  Speaker 1: people really upset, would you say that Camil cheated on
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  Speaker 1: Zeke here?
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  Speaker 3: So thank you for asking that. It definitely crossed my mind.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say no, but yes, Like it's all to one,
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  Speaker 3: one man's no is another man's yes.
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  Speaker 1: Right, it can go both ways either way. I lean
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  Speaker 1: on the side of yes, and.
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  Speaker 3: I'll lean on the side of no, although we're both
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  Speaker 3: right right, right, tough.
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  Speaker 1: One now now, now it's going to be this whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Does Sarah tell oh, does Sarah tell Adam? Does she
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  Speaker 1: tell Zeke that Camille slept with her art teacher? Take
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  Speaker 1: this to the grave?
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  Speaker 3: Like what?
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  Speaker 1: Like what does Camille eventually break down and tell everybody?
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  Speaker 3: But then Camille is already breaking down. Totally reminded me
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  Speaker 3: of Emily Gilmour when she goes out on that date.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So, but you know what's interesting is at the
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  Speaker 1: end when uh, Zeke and Adam have their like thing
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  Speaker 1: and Adam's like, how doubt could you do that to mom?
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  Speaker 1: And he said something along the lines of like, she's
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  Speaker 1: not innocent, and.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's very complicated, you can tell
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  Speaker 3: you something.
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like there's more to Camille. Maybe she
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  Speaker 1: had her own affair at that time, or had in
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  Speaker 1: the past before Zeke even cheated on her. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but there's definitely something to Camille that she has messed
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  Speaker 1: up prior to this time. In my opinion based off
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  Speaker 1: of that conversation, Oh.
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  Speaker 3: There's just much more to the story. I'm convinced of
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  Speaker 3: it all. It's a very replicated situation we're dealing with here.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and then the payoff is, you know, the piano
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  Speaker 1: goes to get is brought down from the attic. Camille
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  Speaker 1: turns the attic into an art studio, and Zeke finds
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  Speaker 1: the turtle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I did, have a nice little bow. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but it was a good episode. I had some gig
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  Speaker 3: it was. I'm going to give it a nine right now,
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 1: Zeke and Camille's storyline is crushing. It is It is
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  Speaker 1: the Richard and Emily. Yeah what season was that for?
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  Speaker 1: Were they not the demise of their relationship?
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  Speaker 3: You never come back?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you never want the people that've been married for
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  Speaker 1: forty plus years to.
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  Speaker 3: Like interesting coming to the end of season one because
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: season one is only thirteen episodes, Oh wow, yeah, so
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: we're on episode what eight?
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  Speaker 1: No, this is eleven.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we only have two more of the season.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow yeah yeah wow, yep, so.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of interesting. We're coming to the end of
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  Speaker 3: the season.
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  Speaker 1: Well nine four for me?
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  Speaker 3: Oh nice, I'm going nine. But I really enjoyed it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it. God, this series is so good.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how we end this.
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  Speaker 1: Braverman's Out.
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  Speaker 2: Braverman's Out.
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