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The Rita Panahi Show | 9 September · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: Starting right now, The Rita Panahy Show.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to The Rita Panahy Show. Coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight, the fallout from Victorian One Nation leader Warren
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Speaker 2: Pickering's admission to drug use in his 20s. My panel
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Speaker 2: will cover that and the day's other top headlines. Angela
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Speaker 2: Merkel weighs in on AFD's stunning victory in Germany. I'll
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Speaker 2: get Ralph Schollhammer's reaction to that. Armie Horowitz will have
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Speaker 2: the latest from the US, including families of 9-11 victims
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Speaker 2: demanding Mezoran Mamdani does not attend the coming memorial. And
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Speaker 2: the extraordinary claims of one of Elon Musk's many baby mamas,
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Speaker 2: Michael Loftus, will be here with celebrity news. And Lefty's
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Speaker 2: Losing It features former billionaire and convicted fraudster Elizabeth Holmes
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Speaker 2: starring in a new documentary.
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Speaker 3: I don't have anything to deceive you on. Of course
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Speaker 3: I'm not deceiving you. I'm engaging with you as a
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Speaker 3: human being.
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Speaker 2: But first, Victoria's brightest tech entrepreneurs have slammed Labor's tax agenda,
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Speaker 2: warning it stifles innovation... punishes risk and jeopardises the state's future.
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Speaker 2: A number of leading female founders have taken aim at
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Speaker 2: the Albanese government as well, which has faced significant pushback
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Speaker 2: from start-up and small businesses over its decision to increase
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Speaker 2: capital gains tax in the May budget. Let's bring in
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Speaker 2: the panel. Joining me now is News24 contributor Prue McSween
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Speaker 2: and Women's Forum Australia Head of Advocacy Stephanie Bastian.
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Speaker 4: Steph?
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Speaker 2: We've been saying this since May, these tax reforms punish
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Speaker 2: innovation and they punish people who take enormous risks to succeed.
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Speaker 4: Well, good evening, Rita.
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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely.
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Speaker 5: This government is hell-bent on getting as much taxed because
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Speaker 5: it is overspending and now female entrepreneurs and entrepreneurs in
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Speaker 5: general are under attack with these reforms. For businesses, for
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Speaker 5: people to take risks to build businesses, create jobs and
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Speaker 5: They need support. They need support in the government not
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Speaker 5: overtaxing the area and they need to cut red tape.
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Speaker 5: But instead, the government is allowing them to do the
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Speaker 5: hard yards and then taxing them full throttle at the end.
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Speaker 5: Quite often people, when they're starting out in businesses, they
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Speaker 5: run at a loss for two or three years, even more.
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Speaker 5: Often entrepreneurs don't take a wage. They put their own
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Speaker 5: personal savings into these ventures. And instead of reaping the rewards...
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Speaker 5: The government's waiting there with its checkbook asking them to
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Speaker 5: sign to take away a portion of what they have
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Speaker 5: managed to build. It's absolutely abhorrent.
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Speaker 2: Pro, it's probably why so many are looking at Singapore
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Speaker 2: or Dubai and elsewhere in the world where hard work
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Speaker 2: isn't punished, where the climate for business investment is a
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Speaker 2: little bit more inviting.
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Speaker 6: Well, this is a government that is conducting a witch
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Speaker 6: hunt on aspiration and entrepreneurship. This is the so-called party
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Speaker 6: of the worker. Who do they think employs the workers?
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Speaker 6: You know, I've run businesses, small businesses for about 40 years. And,
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Speaker 6: you know, there are many, many weeks where you lie
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Speaker 6: awake at night thinking, how am I going to pay
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Speaker 6: my tax? How am I going to meet my superannuation
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Speaker 6: bill or pay the wages? You know, you mortgage your
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Speaker 6: house and you think, what more can I do to
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Speaker 6: try and be able to employ people? Payroll tax I
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Speaker 6: was paying, you know, it's just... Every time you think
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Speaker 6: I'm getting ahead, the government has its hand in your
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Speaker 6: pocket and you're lying awake at night and thinking, why
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Speaker 6: the hell am I doing this? And this is the problem.
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Speaker 6: It's such a disincentive now for anybody. Of course, you're
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Speaker 6: going to look overseas. If I was starting out again,
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Speaker 6: there was no way I'd start a business in Australia
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Speaker 6: under this government.
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Speaker 2: Well, yes, so many are doing that. And I think
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Speaker 2: the fact that this government has very little private sector
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Speaker 2: experience among its front bench, that's a huge problem. They
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Speaker 2: don't understand the risks business people take. They just see
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Speaker 2: it all as greed as opposed to people, as you said, Steph,
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Speaker 2: sometimes working for years without a salary until they become
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Speaker 2: an overnight success. Now, let's talk about the federal government
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Speaker 2: unveiling its digital duty of care bill that happened yesterday.
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Speaker 2: This is a cynical and sinister attempt at censorship. Here
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Speaker 2: is Tanya Plibersek explaining all the ways that Labor is
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Speaker 2: keeping you safe by reducing your free will to access
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Speaker 2: information that Labor deems harmful or misogynistic.
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Speaker 7: Cracking down on material that is obviously harmful, stuff that
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Speaker 7: is misogynistic, that encourages crime, that encourages eating disorders or
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Speaker 7: poor mental health.
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Speaker 8: We should be able to crack down on that.
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Speaker 7: That's better for everyone.
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Speaker 2: Steph, I wonder if this harmful material we need to
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Speaker 2: be protected from involves criticism of Labor policy, whether it's
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Speaker 2: information about taxpayer-funded activists or how much renewables cost or,
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Speaker 2: God forbid, content that states things like men can't be
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Speaker 2: women because in the eyes of many on the left,
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Speaker 2: that's harmful.
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Speaker 5: Well, they're clearly trying to pitch it as something that's
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Speaker 5: going to protect kids from algorithms that are going to
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Speaker 5: expose them, although, I mean, minors shouldn't be on social
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Speaker 5: media anyway. They've got a bill to ban that apparently. But,
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Speaker 5: I mean, you look at what the eSafety Commission has
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Speaker 5: already targeted, genuine content. There was the case of Celine Beaumegarden,
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Speaker 5: apologies if I said her name incorrectly, where she posted
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Speaker 5: criticism of a queer club for eight to 12-year-olds in
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Speaker 5: a Melbourne primary school. That was deemed cyber bullying. The
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Speaker 5: case of Billboard Chris, criticising the appointment of a trans
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Speaker 5: activist who had previously posted about bestiality, public interest knowledge
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Speaker 5: that they've tried to remove. So I have a very
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Speaker 5: genuine concern about what the government constitutes as harm. I'm
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Speaker 5: not sure that government is the right person. I mean,
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Speaker 5: this bill allows them, once it's passed, to keep expanding
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Speaker 5: on harm. That is problematic because we know it'll start
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Speaker 5: with the algorithms talking about eating disorders, hopefully, you know,
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Speaker 5: banning only fan content creation to minors, but it's going
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Speaker 5: to evolve into conservatism. People are opposed to climate change,
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Speaker 5: opposing children being put on harmful medical treatments to, you know,
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Speaker 5: affirm their gender, talking about men not being in sport.
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Speaker 5: This is all what the current government, what the eSafety
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Speaker 5: Commissioner deems as harmful content.
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Speaker 8: So.
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Speaker 1: I don't support this bill at all.
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Speaker 2: Prue, probably the two people I least trust to determine
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Speaker 2: what's harmful is Annika Wells and the East Safety Commissioner,
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Speaker 2: Julie Inman-Grant. Their judgment thus far, particularly the East Safety Commissioner,
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Speaker 2: who has been a leftist activist in that role, she
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Speaker 2: has struck down tweets that state things like men can't breastfeed,
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Speaker 2: as if that's some sort of an offence against So, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but they are two people
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Speaker 2: I do not trust to determine what's harmful.
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Speaker 6: I think that line would cue to the left in
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Speaker 6: agreement with you, Rita. Look, what really annoys me is
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Speaker 6: that this is a Trojan horse. They're lying again and
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Speaker 6: spinning it that this is all about putting you in control.
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Speaker 6: It's not putting us in control. It's putting them in
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Speaker 6: control of what we see and hear. And it's very,
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Speaker 6: very sinister as far as I'm concerned. And the thing
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Speaker 6: that is so laughable is that You know, they had
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Speaker 6: the wind put up them when the Secret Harbour result
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Speaker 6: came out, this safe labour seat that suddenly wasn't safe
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Speaker 6: anymore and had gone.
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Speaker 9: And they think.
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Speaker 6: It's all because harmful, you know, truths were told in
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Speaker 6: social media. You know, they didn't stop and think that
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Speaker 6: it's their lies. It's their performance as one of the worst,
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Speaker 6: if not the worst governments we've ever had in this country.
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Speaker 6: And now they're seeking to shut us down, to control what.
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Speaker 2: We can read and see and hear.
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Speaker 6: I mean, this is a minister saying, of the Ooshies,
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Speaker 6: the rorting minister who is so inept on social media,
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Speaker 6: she's embarrassing, and she's going to determine without Parliament having
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Speaker 6: a say in it, this is so dangerous and we
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Speaker 6: all need to fight against it.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And the coalition needs to take a stand on this.
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Speaker 2: They can't leave this for One Nation. They need to
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Speaker 2: take a stand. But on One Nation, their Victorian leader,
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Speaker 2: Warren Pickering, has admitted to a history of drug use
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Speaker 2: in his 20s. He was joined at a press conference
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Speaker 2: yesterday by his daughter and stepson. Let's see a first
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Speaker 2: from his daughter, Jet, and then stepson, Johnny. I'm happy to.
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Speaker 2: My dad's the greatest father that I could have asked for.
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Speaker 10: Throughout my childhood, my mum would go to bed with
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Speaker 10: a bong sitting next to her bed a can of
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Speaker 10: Woodstock and Tola, and a box of Bally. That was
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Speaker 10: my childhood, and Jett's childhood. She's a narcissistic, compulsive liar,
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Speaker 10: and she's mentally ill. Now, we're still suffering trauma today
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Speaker 10: from her actions. Now, without Warren there through my young
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Speaker 10: age as the eldest, our childhood would have been a
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Speaker 10: lot worse than we were. You know, I've got great
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Speaker 10: respect for Warren and what he's done as a person.
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Speaker 8: He has got a past.
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Speaker 10: He clearly has. But that's his past.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: My mother has a past and she's stuck in that past.
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Speaker 10: She's got a V & N against Warren and has
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Speaker 10: for many years. She's been a junkie for 25 years,
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Speaker 10: an alcoholic. I'm one of four kids. I'm a spade
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Speaker 10: for many years, either as a jet. Okay, so what
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Speaker 10: does that tell you? What do you think of those
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Speaker 10: issues here then? To her motivation?
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Speaker 9: Look, it's not just against Warren.
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Speaker 10: This is about her with anybody. If you get on
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Speaker 10: her wrong side or she's got a problem with you,
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Speaker 10: she will make you hell, OK? And she won't stop.
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Speaker 10: She's had a van together for, what, 15 years against you, Warren?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 10: And it's going to keep going.
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Speaker 8: Like I said, my mother's a compulsive.
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Speaker 10: Narcissistic liar who thrives on this type of behaviour. She
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Speaker 10: is loving what she's doing at the moment to Warren
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Speaker 10: and my nation.
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Speaker 9: OK?
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Speaker 8: Now, as her eldest son....
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Speaker 9: It's just appalling.
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Speaker 2: Steph, he went on to say that he admired the
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Speaker 2: way his stepfather, Warren Pickering, had got his life back
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Speaker 2: on track. And you made that point on X last night,
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Speaker 2: and I thought it was a really interesting point about
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Speaker 2: allowing people the opportunity to redeem themselves.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this story was really a poor form
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Speaker 5: of journalism. This is a man who has really overcome
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Speaker 5: great personal challenges, who's stepped up and been there for
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Speaker 5: his kids, the exact sort of role model that we
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Speaker 5: probably need for many of our young men today. And
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Speaker 5: to see these sort of glossy feature photos of his
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Speaker 5: ex-partner who, by the children's own account, has betrayed them
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Speaker 5: and let them down. And I think, you know, in
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Speaker 5: our culture today where we're not allowed to criticise women,
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Speaker 5: That's very confronting. You've got, you know, the saviour dad
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Speaker 5: protecting them from a mother. I think the whole thing
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Speaker 5: was incredibly sad for those children to have to endure
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Speaker 5: this sort of media. So all power to him. Yes,
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Speaker 5: I do believe that you can reform yourself, you can
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Speaker 5: grow and you can overcome these things. He's done that.
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Speaker 5: He's served his country for 20, you know, for the
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Speaker 5: last 20 years and that story should have been one
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Speaker 5: of success, not this three-day feature dragging him through the
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Speaker 5: mud and dragging his family through the mud.
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Speaker 2: Prue, what do you make of the saga? Does Warren
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Speaker 2: Pickering's drug use in his 20s, does that make him
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Speaker 2: unsuitable for public office?
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Speaker 9: Absolutely not.
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Speaker 6: When you look at so many Australians, so many voters
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Speaker 6: who have had similar histories and It's not uncommon for
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Speaker 6: people to take drugs, to explore their sexuality, do all
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Speaker 6: these things that he has enunciated and has been uncovered.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think this is what makes One Nation
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Speaker 6: different because It's relatable to so many people. There's empathy
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Speaker 6: there that people think, yeah, you know, I can see
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Speaker 6: how that would happen in someone's past. But we've got
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Speaker 6: media now, they're going to scrutinise every One Nation candidate.
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Speaker 6: We know that more than for any other party. because
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Speaker 6: they are all either lefties who love Labor and want
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Speaker 6: to support it, or they just can't bear the thought
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Speaker 6: that Pauline Hanson may one day be in a position
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Speaker 6: of power in this country. It's quite appalling, but I
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Speaker 6: think what it's going to do is just make more
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Speaker 6: people vote for One Nation. Go your hardest, because I
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Speaker 6: think it's going to turn many people around and say, well,
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Speaker 6: I'd rather have a party that is owning its dirty
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Speaker 6: laundry and, you know, talking the language that I can
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Speaker 6: relate to and with policies I can relate to.
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Speaker 2: Prue McSween, Stephanie Bastian, thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 2: While she's back, miserable doom goblin Greta Thunberg has taken
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Speaker 2: a break from her anti-Israel activism to return to her
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Speaker 2: first love of being a climate hysteric. She posted a
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Speaker 2: four-minute doomsday rant about a UN climate change report that
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Speaker 2: she says should have all of us terrified. The girl
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Speaker 2: who cried wolf is crying wolf again.
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Speaker 12: I don't think we understand how terrifying this news is.
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Speaker 12: But the one thing more terrifying than this is the
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Speaker 12: fact that it is not groundbreaking news everywhere in the
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Speaker 12: world and not pushing us all out on the streets.
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Speaker 12: This is a death sentence for countless people all over
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Speaker 12: the world, but the window of time to act is
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Speaker 12: rapidly closing. This also significantly increases the risk of setting
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Speaker 12: off irreversible tipping points beyond human control.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is broadcaster, columnist and international relations expert
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Speaker 2: Ralph Schollhammer. Ralph, in 2019 Greta told us that we
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Speaker 2: would all die by 2030. She said by 2030... who
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Speaker 2: would see the end of our civilisation as we know it,
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Speaker 2: she's always predicting, promising a catastrophe.
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Speaker 13: Well, it also appears that the whole Gaza thing is
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Speaker 13: wearing out, at least from her perspective, right? She was
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Speaker 13: the great doomsayer, then she switched to international relations and
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Speaker 13: told us how to resolve the issue in the Middle East,
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Speaker 13: and now she's going.
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Speaker 8: To go back to climate.
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Speaker 13: But I think the biggest problem for her is going
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Speaker 13: to be, I'm very sorry to say it, Slowly but surely,
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Speaker 13: she's getting too old, right? I mean, the charm is
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Speaker 13: the slightly autistic, you know, underage girl that got all
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Speaker 13: the attention at UN meetings and all the presidents and
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Speaker 13: all the powerful, mostly men, I have to admit, in
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Speaker 13: the world.
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Speaker 2: And you couldn't criticize her. You couldn't criticise her because
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Speaker 2: she was a child. So you're right, her power was
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Speaker 2: in the fact that she was a child and she
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Speaker 2: would put forward these arguments and if you were critical
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Speaker 2: of her or the arguments, well, then you were picking
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Speaker 2: on a child and it was bullying. And she doesn't
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Speaker 2: have that card to play anymore, does she?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a little bit like Peter Pan, right?
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Speaker 13: She no longer knows how to fly, so to speak,
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Speaker 13: because she's no longer a child.
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Speaker 8: You're right.
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Speaker 13: It was never the message, right? It was never the
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Speaker 13: scientific underlying of she was saying. It was the way
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Speaker 13: it was presented. I have to admit, we have to
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Speaker 13: be honest, she was built up in a very effective way.
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Speaker 13: I think there's barely a household on the globe who
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Speaker 13: doesn't know her name. She was pushed by all the
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Speaker 13: usual suspects. You know, some people are generally like Arnold
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Speaker 13: Schwarzenegger and, you know, every chancellor. I think the really
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Speaker 13: first politician to snap her was donald trump right there
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Speaker 13: there's this epic meme where it basically just passes her.
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Speaker 2: By Yes, and she's got a very sour look on
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Speaker 2: her face indeed. Now, Ralph, I've been keen to get
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Speaker 2: your reaction to AFD's historic win in Germany's eastern state
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Speaker 2: of Saxony and Holt. You shared this graph breaking down
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Speaker 2: the results at the district level. It shows voters in
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Speaker 2: less affluent areas are moving to AFD. Does that include
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Speaker 2: Germans with migrant backgrounds?
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Speaker 8: Well, two things are very interesting.
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Speaker 13: I mean, one is when we talk about migrants, and
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Speaker 13: I think it's the same thing in Australia. Most people
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Speaker 13: have a very clear picture in mind. So, for example,
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Speaker 13: if I as an Austrian would move to Australia, I
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Speaker 13: would also be a migrant.
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Speaker 8: But I think if I have a debate.
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Speaker 13: In a pub in Sydney about problems with migration, most
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Speaker 13: people will not instinctively think about Austrians coming to Australia.
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Speaker 8: They have a very clear picture in mind. And it's
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Speaker 8: the same in Germany, right?
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Speaker 13: People, for example, with Russian roots, with Eastern European roots,
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Speaker 13: but even to a certain extent with roots from Turkey
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Speaker 13: are growingly voting for the AFD for a very simple reason.
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Speaker 8: They came to.
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Speaker 13: Germany because it was German and they just fear as
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Speaker 13: much as the native Germans that the country that they
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Speaker 13: got used to is disappearing. But there's a second element
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Speaker 13: that kind of dovetails nicely with the previous topic because
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Speaker 13: the only three groups where the AFD was doing comparatively,
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Speaker 13: you know, was performing comparatively less strong than in other
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Speaker 13: voting groups, were everybody over 70, rich affluent areas in
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Speaker 13: the cities, and women under 25. That remains in most,
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Speaker 13: not in every country, but that remains the ones, the
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Speaker 13: greater Thunberg.
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Speaker 8: Let's say, crowd.
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Speaker 13: Is still the one most resisting or the one that
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Speaker 13: our right-wing parties have the hardest time persuading to vote
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Speaker 13: for them.
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Speaker 2: That is interesting because that phenomenon is apparent in the UK,
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Speaker 2: the US, I would argue right here in Australia with
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Speaker 2: young women increasingly veering left and you've got a lot
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Speaker 2: of young women, young men going the other way. Now,
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Speaker 2: Germany's former Chancellor Angela Merkel has reacted to that AFD
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Speaker 2: Victory describing it as a turning point and heartbreaking.
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Speaker 3: Ralph, does Merkel have any.
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Speaker 5: Appreciation of what she did to Germany, what she did
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Speaker 5: to Europe?
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Speaker 2: With her open borders madness.
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Speaker 11: I know.
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Speaker 13: I mean, if you ever have the time to read
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Speaker 13: her autobiography, all you're going to find are justifications that,
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Speaker 13: in fact, she has always been right and everybody else
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Speaker 13: has been wrong, which is very absurd because you could
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Speaker 13: argue that the entire right-wing search across the globe, even
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Speaker 13: with Donald Trump starting in 2016, that also was about migration,
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Speaker 13: was because Angela Merkel pretty much forced the Europeans.
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Speaker 8: to run the experiment.
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Speaker 13: What happens to a country if you open up the
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Speaker 13: borders to people from completely different cultures? Is diversity going
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Speaker 13: to turn out to truly be a strength or is
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Speaker 13: it going to be a disaster? And with a few exceptions, overall,
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Speaker 13: it has turned out to be quite the disaster that
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Speaker 13: many were fearing.
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Speaker 2: Well, absolutely. And particularly when it comes to standard of living,
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Speaker 2: you talk about crime rates. But the AFD, the media
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Speaker 2: meltdown around them has been astonishing. Even right here in
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Speaker 2: Australia they're described as dangerous and far right. Tell me
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Speaker 2: about that in Germany because that's also how they're described.
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Speaker 2: How have people overlooked that and voted for them anyway?
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Speaker 2: Does the term far right not carry the connotation it
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Speaker 2: once had?
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Speaker 13: No, because I think the enemies of the AFD, at
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Speaker 13: least in the migration debate, they lost the argument. All
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Speaker 13: they've left is moral grandstanding. I mean, you can try
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Speaker 13: it on your show. I did it a couple of times.
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Speaker 13: When people say they are far right, you say, what
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Speaker 13: exactly do you mean? Define far right for me. And
20:41
Speaker 13: you will get all kinds of stutterings. Yeah, because they
20:45
Speaker 13: are the Nazi, fascist, Hitler.
20:47
Speaker 8: The party was founded in 2008.
20:48
Speaker 13: They're even temporarily very far removed. And the issue is
20:55
Speaker 13: a very simple one, that they won the argument. But
20:58
Speaker 13: those who supported Angela Merkel, and that's also a significant
21:01
Speaker 13: part of the elites in Australia, they wanted so desperately
21:04
Speaker 13: to believe in the multicultural experiment. And this, as I
21:07
Speaker 13: said before, this is what Angela Merkel tried on steroids, right?
21:11
Speaker 13: If you believe your country is going to get better
21:13
Speaker 13: via migration, then Ms.
21:15
Speaker 8: Merkel should have been proven right, but she was proven wrong.
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Speaker 2: She was proven wrong. Ralph Schoelhammer, thank you for your
21:21
Speaker 2: time tonight.
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Speaker 8: Thanks for having me.
21:24
Speaker 2: Still to come, lefties losing it, plus the latest from
21:28
Speaker 2: the US, including families of 9-11 victims demanding Mayor Zoran
21:33
Speaker 2: Mamdani does not attend the coming memorial. Ami Horowitz is
21:38
Speaker 2: up next. MUSIC Welcome back. It's time for Lefty's Losing
21:51
Speaker 2: It and one of the wokest multinational corporations has hit
21:55
Speaker 2: hard times. Yes, Nike has seen its stock plummet nearly 80%
22:00
Speaker 2: in value in recent years. There are a lot of
22:04
Speaker 2: reasons for that and being relentlessly woke and alienating much
22:08
Speaker 2: of your potential customer base hasn't helped matters. Here's Daily
22:12
Speaker 2: Wire giving us a quick summary of Nike's antics from
22:16
Speaker 2: pushing hijabs, to trans activism, to BLM. Now here is
22:30
Speaker 2: a misgendering-inspired meltdown at a renaissance fair of all places.
22:35
Speaker 2: Watch a grown man lose it after a young gay
22:40
Speaker 2: guy referred to him as a him.
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Speaker 9: Sometimes you don't know.
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Speaker 14: No.
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Speaker 1: Get out. You don't get to misgender me. I just
22:48
Speaker 1: told you that.
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Speaker 9: Well, I didn't know.
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Speaker 1: I just told you, and then you just misgendered me.
22:52
Speaker 9: You didn't misgender me.
22:53
Speaker 1: You just said, I'm sorry, sir.
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Speaker 8: I don't think he heard you. I didn't hear you.
22:56
Speaker 1: I was literally just talking to yourself.
22:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just talking.
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Speaker 14: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 9: He's kind of on the spectrum. Yeah, me too.
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Speaker 14: That's not a f * * * ing excuse.
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Speaker 8: Oh, okay.
23:04
Speaker 9: There's no need to cuss at me though. There's no
23:06
Speaker 9: need to talk to me that way. How was I
23:08
Speaker 9: talking to you?
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Speaker 14: I'm not doing this.
23:09
Speaker 9: Was I being rude? I don't think I said anything rude.
23:12
Speaker 2: That poor kid just wants to buy one of those
23:15
Speaker 2: ugly overpriced hats. But even that goes horribly wrong. And
23:20
Speaker 2: then there are hands laid on this poor young man.
23:23
Speaker 2: Why are these pronoun announcing types so aggressive?
23:27
Speaker 11: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: I don't believe you.
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Speaker 8: Oh, that's okay.
23:29
Speaker 15: I'm still sorry, sir.
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Speaker 9: I mean, ma'am, ma'am.
23:32
Speaker 8: No, that was actually a slip. That was actually a slip.
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Speaker 9: That was actually a slip.
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Speaker 8: I'm sorry.
23:36
Speaker 9: That was actually a slip.
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Speaker 1: That was a slip.
23:39
Speaker 9: That was a slip.
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Speaker 8: No, I'm sorry. That was a slip. I don't care.
23:42
Speaker 9: Give me the hat and get out.
23:43
Speaker 8: I'm sorry.
23:43
Speaker 9: But like, I was so used to saying, sir. This
23:46
Speaker 9: is my boyfriend.
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Speaker 1: I don't care if you're a gay. You don't get
23:48
Speaker 1: to treat me that way.
23:49
Speaker 9: No, I'm sorry.
23:49
Speaker 8: I didn't, I didn't.
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Speaker 1: That was actually a slip.
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Speaker 14: You are.
23:51
Speaker 1: Give me the hat. Pay for it or leave. I'm
23:53
Speaker 1: paying for it right now. No, you are not.
23:55
Speaker 14: Can you pay for mine?
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Speaker 8: You are not doing s * * *.
23:56
Speaker 9: I'm not selling this hat to you. No, he said
23:59
Speaker 9: we could pay for it. I keep slipping.
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Speaker 8: I keep slipping.
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Speaker 1: I keep slipping.
24:05
Speaker 9: Don't grab me.
24:06
Speaker 8: Don't grab me.
24:08
Speaker 2: Now to Elon Musk's eldest child, who now identifies as Vivian.
24:14
Speaker 2: And Vivian is using Elon Musk's name and profile to
24:17
Speaker 2: front ad campaigns like this.
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Speaker 14: He was designed to obey. I wasn't.
24:31
Speaker 2: Yep, this ad campaign can't tell you what it's trying
24:35
Speaker 2: to sell. Not interested. But it features Vivian being annoying. Annoying.
24:40
Speaker 2: I'm sure they think this is edgy and cool, but no. Now,
24:55
Speaker 2: get ready to be creeped out and a little excited.
24:58
Speaker 2: It is a weird combo. The excitement comes from news
25:01
Speaker 2: that there is a documentary on Elizabeth Holmes, the fraudster
25:06
Speaker 2: who's serving a 10-year term. It's produced and co-directed by
25:10
Speaker 2: comic Nathan Fielder, who appears in this next clip. This
25:15
Speaker 2: was just before she went to jail. Get ready to
25:17
Speaker 2: be creeped out.
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Speaker 3: I don't have anything to deceive you on. Of course
25:21
Speaker 3: I'm not deceiving you. I'm engaging with you as a
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Speaker 3: human being. Why would I deceive you?
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Speaker 9: There's no.
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Speaker 3: There's no reason for me to do that.
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Speaker 14: Okay. All right.
25:44
Speaker 9: Okay, good chat.
25:47
Speaker 2: That's just amazing. She knows she's lying. He knows she's lying.
25:52
Speaker 2: I think she knows that he knows that she's lying
25:55
Speaker 2: and yet she persists. Now, what struck me about this clip? Well,
25:59
Speaker 2: the second thing after the creepy affect, the wide eyes
26:03
Speaker 2: and the unnatural smile, what also struck me was the voice.
26:08
Speaker 2: Whatever happened to Elizabeth Holmes' deep, deep baritone voice? This
26:13
Speaker 2: is how she used to sound.
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Speaker 1: Theranos.
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Speaker 3: Means being able to see the onset of disease in
26:22
Speaker 3: time to be able to do something about it.
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Speaker 2: And for those of you who don't remember the Holmes phenomenon,
26:29
Speaker 2: the revolutionary blood testing device you've pretended to invent, well,
26:34
Speaker 2: let's refresh your memory.
26:35
Speaker 3: It's finding what you're born to do. When you really
26:40
Speaker 3: give everything to that, then you can realize great things.
26:44
Speaker 14: I'd like to welcome Elizabeth Holmes.
26:46
Speaker 13: The real treat, the incredible Elizabeth Holmes.
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Speaker 9: No, no, no, no, you can't touch this.
26:53
Speaker 4: California's Silicon Valley and some of the richest people in
26:56
Speaker 4: the world bought the dream.
26:58
Speaker 9: There are people in this world who revolutionise our lives.
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Speaker 13: Coco Chanel, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Walt Disney and Elizabeth Holmes.
27:05
Speaker 11: Mark my words.
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Speaker 4: Turning Theranos into a staggering $ 9 billion juggernaut and making
27:12
Speaker 4: Holmes the tech valley's first self-made female billionaire.
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Speaker 9: You founded this company 12 years ago, right?
27:20
Speaker 14: Tell them how old you were.
27:21
Speaker 3: I was 19.
27:25
Speaker 2: Yes, she was quite the Democrat darling. She was a
27:28
Speaker 2: presidential ambassador during Obama's presidency and she even hosted a
27:33
Speaker 2: high-profile fundraiser for Hillary Clinton in 2016. But the whole
27:39
Speaker 2: thing was a scam. Her claims were bogus. She was
27:43
Speaker 2: a con artist. Let's bring in documentary filmmaker and commentator
27:50
Speaker 2: Ami Horowitz. Ami, this story is almost too fantastical to
27:55
Speaker 2: be true. How did she fool so many people for
27:59
Speaker 2: so long and why would she agree to this documentary?
28:05
Speaker 14: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Hi, Rita.
28:08
Speaker 17: Look, when you're talking about incredible amounts of possible money
28:13
Speaker 17: to be made, people just want to believe, right? No
28:18
Speaker 17: matter how fantastical it may seem, if you make a
28:21
Speaker 17: credible argument and.
28:23
Speaker 9: Say, we can make... Look, she fooled.
28:26
Speaker 17: some of the most powerful, wealthiest, smartest people in the world.
28:30
Speaker 17: Her investor base included Vermerdoc, the DeVos family, the Waltons, Kraft.
28:40
Speaker 17: The list goes on and on and on. And not
28:42
Speaker 17: only that, but also smart money. Silicon Valley investors, she
28:47
Speaker 17: raised $ 1 billion on this thing. So yeah, people want
28:52
Speaker 17: to believe that this thing will be real. And just
28:56
Speaker 17: to remind people what Theranos was, it was this concept
28:59
Speaker 17: where you can have essentially a lab in a box
29:02
Speaker 17: that with just a prick, a few drops of blood,
29:06
Speaker 17: you could do a bevy, nearly 200 tests based on
29:10
Speaker 17: that and right in your own home. It sounded incredible,
29:13
Speaker 17: and she faked almost the entire thing. I had been
29:19
Speaker 17: a consumer of all things Theranos for years.
29:23
Speaker 9: I've watched the documentaries. I've watched the podcast. I watched
29:27
Speaker 9: the TV show on Hulu. Absolutely, absolutely incredible. Couldn't take
29:32
Speaker 9: my eyes off it.
29:34
Speaker 17: I've been paying attention to this particular documentary for a
29:37
Speaker 17: couple of years.
29:38
Speaker 9: It's been rumored.
29:39
Speaker 17: Nathan Fielder is an absolute incredible talent, wildly inventive guy.
29:45
Speaker 17: His TV show on HBO is, you know, the first time,
29:48
Speaker 17: the first episode I saw of it, I was like,
29:49
Speaker 17: I don't even know what I'm watching.
29:51
Speaker 9: But I love it.
29:52
Speaker 17: So to see what he does with Elizabeth Holmes is
29:55
Speaker 17: going to be really, really incredible. Look, she is one
29:59
Speaker 17: of the great deceivers.
30:01
Speaker 9: Of our time, right? She was pretty, right? Enough. And
30:06
Speaker 9: she knew how to speak. She knew how to speak.
30:09
Speaker 9: The inflection that she had, right?
30:11
Speaker 17: I mean, she was so studied in practice. Like, she
30:14
Speaker 17: wore those, you know, and everywhere she went, she wore
30:16
Speaker 17: the black, you know, the black sweater.
30:19
Speaker 2: Like Steve Jobs' outfit.
30:21
Speaker 9: That's exactly.
30:22
Speaker 2: She dressed like Steve Jobs.
30:24
Speaker 9: She did.
30:24
Speaker 2: She wanted to be the.
30:27
Speaker 2: She wanted to be the female Steve Jobs. And they
30:30
Speaker 2: actually presented her in that way. She got her wish.
30:33
Speaker 2: That's how she was promoted. And she did fool a
30:36
Speaker 2: lot of impressive people. Her board, she assembled an impressive
30:42
Speaker 2: board full of heavy hitters, including Democrat Luminary.
30:44
Speaker 9: Two secretaries of state, Rita. Two secretaries of state.
30:47
Speaker 16: Incredible.
30:49
Speaker 17: I mean, when you say, you know, why does she
30:51
Speaker 17: let Nathan Fielder in? Look, as a documentary filmmaker, I
30:54
Speaker 17: can tell you it's my job to make people feel
30:57
Speaker 17: comfortable enough to talk to me.
30:59
Speaker 9: But she's the ultimate narcissist, okay?
31:01
Speaker 17: She was, I guarantee you, she was 100% sure she
31:05
Speaker 17: could bend Nathan Fielder and his team to her will.
31:09
Speaker 9: That she was going to come off looking great. I
31:11
Speaker 9: promise you.
31:12
Speaker 17: That's the way she thought about it going in, and
31:14
Speaker 17: there's no question she is going to come across really,
31:18
Speaker 17: like the word you said, creepy, is exactly the right word.
31:21
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. I've got to say, when I saw that clip,
31:26
Speaker 2: and the clip is a little bit longer than that,
31:29
Speaker 2: but it's just that intense face-to-face interaction with that unnatural
31:34
Speaker 2: look of the wide eyes and the menacing smile. It's
31:40
Speaker 2: the most bizarre smile. I thought it was a drama.
31:44
Speaker 2: This can't be real. How is this real? But it's incredible.
31:48
Speaker 2: So I think it's going to do very well. Now
31:52
Speaker 2: let's talk about the Lindsay Clancy case and her defence lawyer,
31:56
Speaker 2: Kevin Reddington, Made this incredible request earlier today. He had
32:01
Speaker 2: this message for President Trump. This is Beyond.
32:05
Speaker 14: What's next for Lindsay?
32:07
Speaker 16: I'd like to say that perhaps Donald Trump, who felt
32:11
Speaker 16: compelled to speak out about this case, may very well, Mr. President,
32:15
Speaker 16: I would hope that you would consider this young lady,
32:20
Speaker 16: the type of person she is, what she's been through,
32:22
Speaker 16: and consider a pardon.
32:24
Speaker 2: Army, what is going on? I know the criminal justice
32:27
Speaker 2: system in America is cooked in some states, but surely
32:31
Speaker 2: a defence attorney realises that President Trump can't pardon someone,
32:36
Speaker 2: even if he wanted to, when they're facing state murder charges.
32:41
Speaker 2: These are state charges, not federal.
32:44
Speaker 17: I mean, you would think he would realize that, but
32:47
Speaker 17: he just said it, so maybe he doesn't realize it. Look,
32:53
Speaker 17: here's the issue, is that they're just not going to...
32:56
Speaker 17: Massachusetts is somewhat unique in the sense that the burden
33:02
Speaker 17: is on the state.
33:03
Speaker 9: To prove that she was not insane.
33:06
Speaker 17: And that's a very, very high burden and relatively easy
33:11
Speaker 17: for the defense to overcome like they did here. There's
33:13
Speaker 17: not going to find, I don't think, 12 jurors who
33:17
Speaker 17: are the convictor of murder. I just don't know if
33:19
Speaker 17: they're going to see it. I think they need to
33:20
Speaker 17: plead this thing. What I found fascinating was they had
33:25
Speaker 17: one of the jurors gave an interview And the thing
33:29
Speaker 17: she said was incredible. She said, she talked about, I
33:33
Speaker 17: know I've got it here, but she talked about the
33:35
Speaker 17: one juror that was a holdout and said, she thought
33:39
Speaker 17: she convinced him to go with the other 11. And
33:42
Speaker 17: I started to fill out the forms.
33:44
Speaker 9: I was so excited. She was excited to.
33:47
Speaker 17: Let this woman go. Is that the right word to use?
33:51
Speaker 17: Is that what you felt? Like, look, I can see
33:53
Speaker 17: why they may have found that she was criminally insane.
33:56
Speaker 9: I can see that.
33:57
Speaker 17: But to feel happy and excited that she was going
34:00
Speaker 17: to get off after murdering and strangling her three children. And,
34:05
Speaker 17: you know, she said that, again, the juror that held out,
34:10
Speaker 17: that he had a hard time, he couldn't get off
34:12
Speaker 17: the fact that, that Lindsay Clancy murdered her three children.
34:16
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm sorry.
34:18
Speaker 2: She said brutally.
34:19
Speaker 9: She said brutally.
34:23
Speaker 2: The juror who made that point, even her own language,
34:27
Speaker 2: she said he couldn't get it out of his mind
34:30
Speaker 2: that she had brutally murdered these three.
34:33
Speaker 1: Really?
34:33
Speaker 2: So he's the lone sane person?
34:34
Speaker 9: He's crazy.
34:35
Speaker 14: He's not.
34:38
Speaker 17: Maybe he's the personal psychosis that he couldn't get over
34:41
Speaker 17: the fact that she brutally, I don't, and by the way,
34:44
Speaker 17: her lawyer said, talking about a retrial, that she was not.
34:49
Speaker 9: Emotionally prepared for a new trial. emotionally prepared.
34:54
Speaker 17: Like, I remember, you know, when I was in high
34:57
Speaker 17: school and Coach Dick told me when he was having two-a-days,
35:00
Speaker 17: I was like, I was not in the.
35:02
Speaker 9: Mood for a second practice. And he goes, Horowitz, you
35:04
Speaker 9: get in the mood. Yeah.
35:06
Speaker 17: You know what, Lizzie Clancy? You get emotionally prepared. Look,
35:10
Speaker 17: I just can't understand. Again, I've told you, I can understand.
35:15
Speaker 17: I can see both sides. But to be gleeful in
35:18
Speaker 17: saying we want her off is just absolutely insane.
35:21
Speaker 9: I can't wrap my head around that.
35:24
Speaker 2: Well, I can't see both sides because this wasn't some
35:29
Speaker 2: psychotic break. This wasn't some fit of anger where she
35:34
Speaker 2: acted out of character. She planned this. She executed a
35:41
Speaker 2: very carefully crafted plan. She researched it. The manner in
35:46
Speaker 2: which she did it, the fact that she took a
35:48
Speaker 2: phone call during the murders and acted normally and then
35:51
Speaker 2: went back to brutally murdering these children. I'm sorry, even
35:55
Speaker 2: if it was a psychotic break, I don't care. You
35:58
Speaker 2: spend the rest of your life behind bars. You kill
36:01
Speaker 2: three babies. I mean, this is just, it just shows
36:04
Speaker 2: how twisted the American justice system has become. If you're
36:08
Speaker 2: saying you can't see 12 jury members who are going
36:12
Speaker 2: to convict, I can't see. But then we are talking
36:16
Speaker 2: about that particular jury pool. And I think That is
36:20
Speaker 2: something that's not talked about often enough. Your criminal justice
36:24
Speaker 2: system is only as sound as your jewellery pool. And
36:27
Speaker 2: if you've got one or two activist types in there
36:30
Speaker 2: who are gleeful about their participation in a major case,
36:34
Speaker 2: then you get this. There was another shocking case that
36:39
Speaker 2: some are speculating was inspired by the Clancy murders. CNN
36:43
Speaker 2: reports an Illinois mother, Corrie Walsh, had become obsessed with
36:49
Speaker 2: the Lindsay Clancy trial and she murdered her toddler by
36:53
Speaker 2: hanging him.
36:55
Speaker 15: A 40 year old woman from Illinois is now facing
36:57
Speaker 15: a first degree murder charge after police say she killed
37:00
Speaker 15: her two year old son. Prosecutors say that Corey Walsh
37:03
Speaker 15: had become very invested in the Lindsay Clancy trial. and
37:06
Speaker 15: was texting in a group text with friends until 12.30pm Tuesday.
37:11
Speaker 15: Hours later, at 4 o'clock, police were responding to a
37:14
Speaker 15: report of an unresponsive toddler at Corey Walsh's home.
37:18
Speaker 2: Just another shocking case. A lot of similarities with the
37:21
Speaker 2: Clancy case, but... Perhaps we'll talk about it next time
37:25
Speaker 2: you're on when we've got a little bit more detail.
37:29
Speaker 2: Before you go, I want to ask you about the
37:31
Speaker 2: 9-11 memorial. New York's preparing to mark the 25th anniversary
37:36
Speaker 2: of the September 11 attacks at Ground Zero and there
37:39
Speaker 2: are growing calls for Mayor Zoran Mamdani not to attend.
37:43
Speaker 2: A petition started by relatives of 9-11 victims has gathered
37:47
Speaker 2: more than 100,000 signatures and An army, they're calling on
37:51
Speaker 2: Mamdani not to participate in memorial ceremonies. What do you
37:57
Speaker 2: think about that? He is the mayor of New York
37:59
Speaker 2: right now.
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Speaker 17: I mean, I can't blame them for taking that position, right? Obviously,
38:05
Speaker 17: considering who he is. and how he's spoken about America,
38:08
Speaker 17: and particularly 9-11, because as we know, the real victims
38:11
Speaker 17: of 9-11 were the Muslims of New York City, like
38:14
Speaker 17: he said, like his auntie, who may or may not
38:17
Speaker 17: have existed. You know, he said over and over again,
38:22
Speaker 17: I love America. Yeah, I'm going to call BS on that.
38:26
Speaker 9: I'm sorry. I just don't see that at all.
38:29
Speaker 17: Look, this is a man who signed a 9-11 executive
38:33
Speaker 17: order talking about memorializing 9-11. And he handed one of
38:39
Speaker 17: the pens that he signed to a man named Ramzi Qasem,
38:42
Speaker 17: not exactly a household name.
38:44
Speaker 9: But I'll fill you in.
38:45
Speaker 17: Ramzi Qasem is an Al Qaeda lawyer, and his brother-in-law
38:49
Speaker 17: was one of the hijackers in 9-11 who took his
38:52
Speaker 17: plane into the Pentagon.
38:54
Speaker 9: That's who he handed the pen to.
38:57
Speaker 17: This whole thing is just so bizarre that this is
39:00
Speaker 17: the mayor that we have, and I will point out,
39:03
Speaker 17: I'm sorry, I'm gonna belabor the point, Rita, every single
39:06
Speaker 17: time about his exorable wife, who on October 7th hearted
39:12
Speaker 17: and liked and retweeted the lauding of October 7th.
39:17
Speaker 9: This is who we have as mayor of our city.
39:20
Speaker 9: It is deplorable.
39:22
Speaker 17: It's disgusting and shame on New York City. And I
39:25
Speaker 17: include myself in that.
39:28
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have predicted that, Tony. years ago, would you?
39:31
Speaker 2: After that most deadly terror attack in world history, that
39:36
Speaker 2: 25 years later, you would have someone mayor of that
39:40
Speaker 2: city with those sorts of beliefs married to a woman
39:44
Speaker 2: who has got a really quite a sick attitude to
39:48
Speaker 2: the murdering of Jews. I mean, how did New York
39:52
Speaker 2: allow that to happen?
39:53
Speaker 17: I mean, I can tell you, unfortunately, because I actually,
39:57
Speaker 17: I'm going to preview something for you. Just a couple
39:59
Speaker 17: of days ago, I went on the streets of New York.
40:01
Speaker 17: We haven't released the video yet, but I'll tell you
40:03
Speaker 17: a little about it. And I went to the Lower
40:05
Speaker 17: East Side and I asked the people who elected Mamdani
40:08
Speaker 17: about 9-11, their attitudes toward him, and two-thirds, two-thirds, of
40:14
Speaker 17: the people I spoke to said America deserved 9-11 and
40:19
Speaker 17: that if there was another 9-11, they would understand it
40:22
Speaker 17: and have no problem with it. So just to give
40:23
Speaker 17: you a sense of who elected Mamdani, those people elected Mamdani.
40:30
Speaker 2: Oh, that is disturbing. Ami Horowitz, thank you so much
40:33
Speaker 2: for your time.
40:34
Speaker 9: Always a pleasure.
40:36
Speaker 2: Still to come, the extraordinary claims of one of Elon
40:39
Speaker 2: Musk's many baby mamas. Michael Loftus has the details. Welcome back.
40:52
Speaker 2: Joining me now is comedian and host of the Loftus
40:55
Speaker 2: Party podcast, Michael Loftus. Let's start with Sam Smith's new album.
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Speaker 2: It's a massive flop. It has failed to chart on
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Speaker 2: the Billboard 200, sold just 6,500 units in its first week,
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Speaker 2: which is incredible. What happened, Michael? He was a huge star.
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Speaker 2: He was described as a rare talent and certainly he's
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Speaker 2: had a lot of success with previous records.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously, back in the day, everybody liked him.
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Speaker 18: But then he just turned into this very, like his
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Speaker 18: personality got too big for the music. Like when you
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Speaker 18: only sell 6,500 units, those aren't album sales.
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Speaker 1: That's like a condo complex in Miami. Like, come on down.
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Speaker 18: We got 6,500 units that are ready for you to go.
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Speaker 18: I saw Sam in this outfit recently, this big black.
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Speaker 18: It's like he ate Cruella de Vil on the set.
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Speaker 1: Of The Great Gatsby.
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Speaker 2: Was that the rubber one?
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Speaker 1: No, this one had a big, giant feather.
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Speaker 2: I have lost track of his bizarre get-ups.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: You know what?
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Speaker 2: You can have that sort of image as long as
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Speaker 2: the music's good. But I don't know. I mean, maybe
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Speaker 2: people are just too alarmed by his appearance to actually
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Speaker 2: listen to the music. Now, the trailer for the new
42:23
Speaker 2: Harry Potter HBO series was released last week. The series
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Speaker 2: has gained popularity. A bit of criticism for turning white
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Speaker 2: characters into black characters, characters like Hermione and Snape. You've
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Speaker 2: called it a colossal waste of time, money and energy.
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Speaker 2: Explain why.
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Speaker 18: Well, the books are great, and the films were wonderful,
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Speaker 18: and the cast was wonderful, and everybody can remember that.
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Speaker 18: So it looks like they're lining up. It's just like
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Speaker 18: a new version, but it's a shot-for-shot almost remake. It's
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Speaker 18: like a dream, right? Like, oh, I was in my house,
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Speaker 18: but everything had moved around, and it's just off-putting.
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Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't want a woke Harry Potter.
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Speaker 18: It feels like Hagrid's first line is going to be,
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Speaker 18: you're a wizard, Harry.
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Speaker 1: And a colonizer. I don't want that.
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Speaker 18: I don't want Hermione whipping out her wand going, rest roomus, genderless.
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Speaker 18: And I don't want there to be a trigger warning
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Speaker 18: in front of a Quidditch match because brooms are phallic
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Speaker 18: and flying is ableist.
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Speaker 2: That is true. And yeah, they didn't have too many
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Speaker 2: disabled characters or too many characters of color. That was
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Speaker 2: a criticism. But there were. There were Asian characters. There
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Speaker 2: were black characters.
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 2: But they did try to woke it up even with J.K.
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Speaker 14: Rowling.
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Speaker 2: Remember, she suddenly decided Dumbledore was gay and had always
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Speaker 2: been gay. People had just missed it. But we had
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Speaker 2: to all know this. I mean, how was this relevant?
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Speaker 2: He had no love interest throughout the books from what
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Speaker 2: I can remember. Why do we need to know his
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Speaker 2: sexual orientations?
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Speaker 1: That's what I thought was brilliant about J.K.
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Speaker 18: Rowling's response. She's like, oh yeah, Dumbledore, he's totally gay.
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Speaker 18: You didn't get that? You can say whatever you want
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Speaker 18: because his sexuality didn't matter.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't relevant to the story.
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Speaker 18: She could have almost said that, you know, anybody, remember
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Speaker 18: that old, that creepy old guy.
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Speaker 1: That was always around the hallways? Yeah, he was gay too,
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Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter.
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Speaker 2: Yes, what was he? He was the groundskeeper. No, no,
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Speaker 2: he was the janitor, the role. I've forgotten the names.
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Speaker 2: It's been a long time since I read those with
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Speaker 2: my son. Now, speaking of going woke, you've written that Jaguar,
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Speaker 2: the car brand, not the animal, is the latest company
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Speaker 2: to go broke. The automaker revealed plans to cut a
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Speaker 2: reported 4,000 jobs from its 34,000-strong workforce in the UK.
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Speaker 2: And we all remember this ad. I think this is
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Speaker 2: where the brand entered a coma.
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Speaker 14: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to copy that. I don't know what
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Speaker 2: that is. Can the brand be revived?
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Speaker 18: I think they can, and I want them to. I
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Speaker 18: think these companies are all learning their lesson, right? Like
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Speaker 18: Disney's bringing back ladies and gentlemen to the announcements. I
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Speaker 18: want everybody to have jobs and survive. But like Jaguar,
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Speaker 18: like I'm not an ad guy, but I'm pretty sure
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Speaker 18: you should probably have a car in your ad. And
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Speaker 18: who knew that that motto, copy nothing, That was prophetic.
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Speaker 18: They're so poor now they can't afford printer ink. So
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Speaker 18: that's what they're saying, copy nothing. We can't afford a
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Speaker 18: new printer.
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Speaker 2: You can tell almost the marketing team trying to win awards,
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Speaker 2: advertising awards, and try to impress other people in that
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Speaker 2: industry as opposed to sell the cars, which is what
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Speaker 2: your job is supposed to be. It's It's predictable but
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Speaker 2: we've seen it with multiple brands. Now we talked about
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Speaker 2: the US Open earlier in the week and all these
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Speaker 2: influences causing havoc. Now the Arthur Ashe Tennis Arena in
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Speaker 2: New York has moved its luxury suites as part of
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Speaker 2: a massive renovation, meaning influencers and celebrities are having to
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Speaker 2: use the bathroom shed with the rest of the attendees. And, Michael,
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Speaker 2: get this. There is a proposal to have interns stand
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Speaker 2: in for influencers for the ladies' bathroom line. I mean,
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Speaker 2: come on.
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Speaker 18: This is the worst, like where the VIPs are trying
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Speaker 18: to figure out where the VIPs go to VIPP.
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Speaker 1: Who builds VIPs? A luxury box without its own restroom.
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Speaker 1: What's the luxurious part?
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Speaker 18: Like, oh, I paid $ 120, 000 for this luxury box, but
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Speaker 18: I have to go down there and use the bathroom
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Speaker 18: with a bunch of poor strangers.
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Speaker 1: That's not luxury. Like, would you buy a yacht without
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Speaker 1: a motor? No, you wouldn't. This is horrible for the U.S.
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Speaker 4: Open.
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Speaker 18: And whoever was in charge of these luxury boxes, they
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Speaker 18: need to go to school with the Jaguar ad agency.
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Speaker 18: You need to figure out what luxury really is.
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Speaker 2: Now, before you go, I've got a clip I want
47:52
Speaker 2: to play you. The mother of one of Elon Musk's
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Speaker 2: many children has called out the billionaire. Ashley St. Clair
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Speaker 2: claims Elon chooses not to show empathy.
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Speaker 11: He consciously rejects empathy. He makes a conscious choice to
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Speaker 11: not put himself in other people's shoes because he does
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Speaker 11: have the capacity to do it when he needs to.
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Speaker 11: He often, both privately and publicly, speaks about his childhood. However,
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Speaker 11: I can guarantee you that there's many people in this
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Speaker 11: room who probably had traumatic, maybe even horrific childhoods. And
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Speaker 11: I don't see any of you trying to take over
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Speaker 11: the world. I think he's made a lot of bad choices.
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Speaker 2: Michael, yes, most of his bad choices have involved women.
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Speaker 2: He has notoriously poor judgment in that area. Amber Heard,
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Speaker 2: Ashley Sinclair, someone who calls themselves Grimes. There's more. What
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Speaker 2: do you make of that? And she also claimed that
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Speaker 2: she was offered $ 40 million not to speak.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very telling.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, Elon Musk. She can't take Elon Musk. He's got
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Speaker 18: no warmth. He's got no love for humanity. But boy,
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Speaker 18: she had no problem sleeping with him. She found him
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Speaker 18: pretty appealing when he had the big paycheck. She made
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Speaker 18: sure that she got knocked up.
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Speaker 1: When someone gives you, here's $ 40.
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Speaker 18: Million to take care of the baby and yourself, you
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Speaker 18: have a wonderful life. But no, she wants to speak
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Speaker 18: because I think she's trying to make some dough off
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Speaker 18: of just talking trash about Elon Musk. Oh, he doesn't
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Speaker 18: like humanity. He's just trying to get us to other
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Speaker 18: planets to save humanity. He just single-handedly saved free speech
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Speaker 18: to ensure humanity continues to survive. Oh, Ashley St. Clair,
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Speaker 18: we see through you. You're a saran wrap woman.
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Speaker 2: Michael Loftus, thank you so much for your time. And
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Speaker 2: that's all the time we have. Late Edition is up next.