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F1 2025 Montreal GP Recap & Austrian GP Preview - Fast Laps with the Boys · Banter with the Boys

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  and laced up let's go it's time for banter with
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  the boys uh welcome back to what we got here
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  better with the boys yes i thought we were joking
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  about you forgetting what we're doing here i'm
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  not joking i've been down for too long He's been
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  gone for a single episode. That is too much.
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  Missed one episode in two years. That's too much.
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  How are you doing, Smelty? We missed you. We
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  talked about you a little bit. It happened. I
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  heard. Well, you kind of talked about me. Did
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  you love my little pitch to Alpine for like a
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  second? Yeah, I think I mentioned something in
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  the group. text or something of that nature like
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  um maybe i didn't actually but i i remember you
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  it was very short and sweet uh smelty alpine
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  all right oh my god and then i thought that was
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  a fake out and that you guys were actually going
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  to talk about alpine and then then you proceeded
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  to not do that no no joe i have the floor um
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  when When Gasly actually gets a top 10, Alpine
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  actually gets points, I think for the second
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  time this year, and you choose not to talk about
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  Alpine. Where's Alpine and Constructors again?
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  Nah, don't worry about it. They're a solid 11.
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  They're in last by a solid 11 points. Yeah, to
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  be fair, I do think I was going to talk about
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  it, but the moment just kind of overtook you.
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  How funny would it be if I didn't? No, I'm not
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  disappointed at all. Mike, how's it going? Mike's
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  here. I made it. I didn't miss last week. Wearing
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  an Aston hat today. Yeah. I grabbed, like, this
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  morning, I grabbed my Haas shirt and hat, and
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  I was like, you know what? I'm going to grab
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  that. Mercedes engine suppliers. Yep. And you're
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  wearing a Mercedes hat today, Joe. Yeah. I somehow
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  lost all of my McLaren hats. Weird, huh? Yeah,
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  it's crazy. I think they crashed into each other
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  or something. Speaking of hats, before we jump
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  into it, I bought a Williams hat. three months
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  ago it got lost in no transit no and i messaged
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  them and they're like oh yeah it's being held
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  like because it was coming from the uk and they're
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  like it's being held by customs and i was like
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  oh okay so i messaged them two weeks later and
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  like oh yeah it was lost in transit we'll send
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  you a new one so i got another one coming and
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  i think it's actually gotten into the u .s now
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  i'm just waiting for customs though i think so
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  i'll check does it tell you that if you're tracking
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  no it gave me nothing yeah it got stuck in between
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  it'd be nice to know yeah it got stuck in between
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  the person getting it to the u .s and usps usps
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  just kept saying waiting for handoff yeah yeah
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  probably someone's rocking a williams hat i almost
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  i almost bought a new f1 hat today wow i did
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  not i also was looking at a new f1 hat as well
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  i had a package in the mail and i was like this
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  could be my hat but it wasn't so yeah that sucks
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  that's tough did you buy a hat no i was looking
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  at one though yeah i was too and i can't i can't
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  pull myself to pull the trigger yet i'm gonna
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  be straight i kind of just want to get a i kind
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  of want to get a sauber hat no that's what i
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  was looking at i just i just uh something about
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  the light blue mercedes hat first to me i might
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  have to do but or we could all just like pick
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  a few teams each We all pick three teams each,
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  and one of us gets four, and then we get all
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  of the team's hats. I like the idea that Smelty
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  and I both have Sauber hats, and then we both
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  wear them on the same pod, and then we get to
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  make fun of you for not having a Sauber hat.
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  We get to point and laugh. Have you seen Constructor's
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  Standings? I don't think. My team's doing pretty
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  well. My team's are doing. Recently. We should
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  get into it. We should get into it. We should
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  talk about it. Good point. This is supposed to
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  be the intro. Kev. Kev is here. Also, Kev is
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  here. Next week, we will have KevCam. KevCam
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  and KevMike. Not to be confused with Mike's Mike
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  or Mike in general. Canadian GP recap, Kev. Let's
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  just send it. Awesome. Here we are. Is my hat
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  on straight? It is not. Oh, I don't know what's
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  going on. Anyway. It's a hat podcast now. Hat
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  podcast. Hat cast. Canadian GP recap, yes. Pre
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  -race banter. We got the sprint quality practice,
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  yada, yada. All I got for that is George Russell
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  was fast most of the weekend, and he ended up
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  proving that in the GP. Is there anything that
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  is sticking out to you right out of the gate,
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  Joe, with your pre -race notes? Yeah, the biggest
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  thing, mediums were faster for most cars. I think
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  George got his fastest lap on mediums. So it
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  was kind of a toss -up between softs and mediums.
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  McLaren didn't use any mediums at all. Some teams
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  didn't. They just went softs. But Mercedes used
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  a lot of mediums. A couple of other notes. Yuki
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  was given a 10 -place grid penalty for overtaking
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  under red flags in the final practice session.
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  Evolution seemed to be pretty high. Did we get
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  any pit starts? I thought we had... I think we
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  had two pit starts, right? That's what I thought.
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  I can't remember who the two are. It was Lawson
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  and Gasly. I have it written down. Lawson and
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  Gasly started the pit lane. And then Hajar impeded
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  signs. This really rubbed me the wrong way. In
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  Q1, Hajar... signs and signs got knocked out
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  because he was impeded granted we don't know
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  exactly what his lap time would have been but
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  he was on a fast lap when he was impeded that
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  was investigated and he was given a three place
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  grid penalty because of it and that is oh first
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  time this is the first time George has ever taken
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  a pole in a track that he's taken pole previously
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  in so this is his first repeat interesting Where
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  did you find that? No, that was stated, I think,
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  just by dang. That's yeah. I like that. Anyway,
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  you know, as a Mercedes fan, you know, of course,
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  the only one here, obviously. Yeah. Only one
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  that exists anyway. OK. Yes. So did you have
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  anything pre race? I think also Gabby also in
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  similar to Yuki was accused of overtaking under
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  a red flag and Bortoletto. Yeah. Yeah. Gabriel
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  Bortoletto. And I think. uh sauber actually fought
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  that yes and had it repealed and just goes to
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  show how good oliver oaks is at playing the rules
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  no yeah you're right i do remember that yeah
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  so he almost had a 10 place grid penalty as well
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  but yeah that also i like you you jogged my memory
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  so that was all i had for pre -race fair enough
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  fair enough well we won't Waste any more time
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  on pre -race and dig right into the GP, where
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  our starting grid was Russell Verstappen, Piastri,
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  Antonelli, Hamilton, Alonso, Norris, Leclerc,
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  Hedger, and Albon. Some same, some different,
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  right? Finishing 10 is going to be Russell Verstappen,
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  Antonelli, Piastri, Leclerc, Hamilton, Alonso,
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  Hulkenberg, Ocon Seitz. Um, I want to save McLaren
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  for last low key. Uh, we all know our way from
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  bottom to top. Oh, I like that. I like that.
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  So that would probably be racing bowls cause
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  they are absolutely garbage. Um, and I mean,
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  unfortunately all that pre -race stuff that Joe
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  had already mentioned played a massive role in
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  that. Um, I don't know. Liam's Liam, uh, Isaac.
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  better luck next week buddy yeah you know him
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  had car issues so he had to retire and then oh
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  shucks isaac just yeah he just couldn't i think
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  he yeah he's he ended 16th even though he was
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  qualified ninth so not a good race to be fair
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  this is like i think his worst race is melbourne
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  yeah oh yeah i mean like you're due you're due
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  yeah and for like a rookie whatever man Take
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  your lumps. And again, he had the three -place
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  grid penalty, Isaac? Yeah, I mean, again, what
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  are you going to do? You're already starting
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  from behind, essentially, in that. Yeah, that's
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  a good point. Yeah, his starting... Did he get...
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  Was his penalty after that starting grid? Because
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  it says here he started ninth. Did he line up
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  ninth? Oh, you know what? I don't think he did.
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  Let me just check super, super quick. I think
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  I have that wrong. Starting grid, he was... 12th.
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  Okay. So Albon and then who started 10th? Colapinto.
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  Colapinto. Do you think he got points? Didn't
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  end well. Let's see. The only other team to have
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  both drivers finish out of points. We don't need
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  to spend a lot of time on these guys. Alpine.
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  Yep. You know what? I think you're... The commentary
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  on Alpine last week applies, or last episode
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  very much applies to this one. I didn't see a
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  lot. I think they actually, I think Colapinto
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  started 13th, too. Do you still have the starting
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  grid pulled up? Colapinto started, no, he started
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  10th, yeah. Did he? Colapinto? I thought you
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  just said that. Who did I think you just said?
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  Hadjar got pushed down, so it pushed Colapinto
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  to 10th. Yeah, for some reason I thought you
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  said Bortoletto. My names are getting mixed up
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  here. No, he started 15th. Speaking of Colapinto,
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  though, what is your temperature check on Colapinto
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  thus far? Ooh, yeah. This will be his fifth race.
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  That's a great question. Hmm. I mean... And it's
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  supposed to be every five, isn't it? I was about
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  to ask. Do we know how... This is his fifth.
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  This is his fifth. Okay. The one that we just
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  were going to. Yeah, Austria will be his fifth.
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  So, no points yet. No word on if they're switching
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  him after Austria yet. Although there was a little
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  bit of gaslighting coming from, why am I forgetting
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  his name? Flavio? Flavio, yeah. Flavio was gaslighting
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  the press a little bit, saying like, they asked
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  him, they're like, so what's the deal with Colapinto's
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  five race thing? And he goes, I never said he
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  was only going to be in for five races. You guys
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  said that, not me. Yeah, whatever, man. So we'll
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  see if that really goes through or not. I mean,
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  without remembering every single race, right?
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  And just off my memory, which we've learned very
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  quickly that is garbage, considering I got the
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  name wrong a minute after Joe said it. I feel
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  like he's done a better job than Jack doing.
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  But at the same time, as far as I feel like Colapinto's
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  practicing and qualifying has been better than
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  Jack doing. Yeah. But the GP is a similar result,
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  right? I don't know. I would like to see him
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  in for a couple more races. I don't think we'll
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  see Jack. I don't think they'll put Jack Doolin
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  back in the car. No. You know? You don't think
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  so? You think they could? Or are you looking
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  at driver comparison? I'm looking at driver comparison.
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  Neither of them have points. Gasly is 11. i just
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  carrying the team yeah truly but i mean like
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  same goes for you know bordoletto and hulkenberg
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  and right there was and that's it really it's
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  just those three i it's i don't know i think
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  if you keep swapping them out none of them are
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  gonna get good yep right so it's a flawed idea
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  uh You can't expect to put a driver who's never
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  driven at this level before in, and then even
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  though cold bunch of drive to half a season ish,
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  um, and then expect them to you. What I'm trying
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  to say is you need them to be in, in the car
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  so they can get practice in before new regs come
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  next season. And if you keep swapping out five
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  after five, after five, I think it was just maybe
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  it could be, uh, I'm kind of hoping cause I kind
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  of like do I like do hand. Why do you think he
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  had such a short leash? Do you think they just,
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  I think it's just because, They knew they had
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  Colapinto right there. I think so. They saw Colapinto,
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  and they were at least a little bit more impressed,
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  I suppose. It's unfair to Doohan, but it is what
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  it is. Does Doohan get outlandish, right? This
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  is not going to happen. But does Doohan get a
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  Liam Lawson seat at Racing Bulls next year? Oh,
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  there is no seat for them to upgrade to, you
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  know? Well, I'm saying if Lawson gets kicked.
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  oh does he get kicked at the end of this season
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  red bull still has way too many drivers to cycle
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  just ready to come up yeah yeah i don't think
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  they're looking literally at any other team fair
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  enough other than their own yeah uh i was seeing
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  a uh i i saw a different content creator who
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  had talked about the differences between the
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  drivers and he brought up that um neither second
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  driver on alpine have really done anything but
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  uh he did comparisons on qualifyings for the
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  two of them and and how far apart they were qualifying
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  away from each other and he said that um on average
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  colapinto has been uh qualifying typically two
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  places closer than doing So that'll kind of do
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  it. Honestly, if I was them. Yeah, I'm glad I'm
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  not crazy thinking that the practice and then
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  qualifying was better than doing. But I didn't
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  think two whole places. So to your point, Flavio
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  saying what five place thing that five placing
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  could have just been a light letdown for doing.
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  And they just give Cole a pen to the PR. Honestly,
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  and that's like probably the it sucks. Because
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  everyone's going to be like, hey, that's not
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  cool. But it's the smartest play to make is to
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  keep a single driver in and let them learn and
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  grow and get better. I think what they should
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  have done is they should have held Doolin for
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  the first 12 races. And if he just didn't pan
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  out, give him half a season at least. Give him
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  his time to shine. He doesn't pan out. Then you
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  say, look, man, we gave you a crack. We got another
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  guy that we want to give a crack to. They announced
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  they were swapping drivers like race three, right?
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  Yeah. It was early. Yeah, it was super early.
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  Okay. So they didn't say this preseason, though.
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  They said it. They're like, he's not panning
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  out. Yeah. Okay. In fact, Oliver Wheatley, that
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  was the old team principal, right? He was saying
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  he actually was defending. For Alpine? Yeah.
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  I thought it was Wheatley. The one that just
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  left? Yeah. I thought it was Wheatley. No, no,
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  no. Who is it? You'll tell me. It was Oaks. So
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  you said Oaks earlier. I said Oaks was Gabby.
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  That's what set me off when he said Oaks. Maybe
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  Wheatley is the one that went is. current uh
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  team principal at i think that's correct at salver
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  then i think that's correct um stand by joe's
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  typing yeah it is wheatley yeah okay yeah you
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  said okay and i was like but we both went with
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  it though we're both because i was like okay
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  he said it he knows he knows like i didn't want
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  to like both their names are oliver so i got
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  but i heard i heard no there no it's jonathan
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  wheatley oh it's jonathan well i'm just dumb
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  Both their names are Oliver. You've got to put
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  the shovel down sometimes when you're digging
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  the hole. Both their names are Oliver. It's fine.
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  So, Oliver, how do you think? No, yeah, that's
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  fine. Well, nonetheless, yeah. So that Oaks was
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  saying that he was defending the heck out of
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  Dewan before the season and was like, we're not
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  putting Kolopinto in. Kolopinto is our reserve
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  driver. We are driving Dewan. And he was full
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  -on team Dewan. So, and notably. Like, what was
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  it? Two races after Oaks is gone. We have Colapinto.
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  It was the next. I think it was the next race.
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  It might have been. I think it was. It happened
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  very close to it together. He left like midweek
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  and then two days later they announced it. I'm
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  pretty sure. That feels right. Yeah. Actually,
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  it might have been even after. After what? After
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  Colapinto joined. The Oaks thing? Yeah. Because
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  Oaks left in May. Oh, well, then, yeah, maybe.
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  Maybe I'm wrong. I've clearly been around a few
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  times. That's fine. Hold on. Hold on. Sorry.
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  We just got to clear this. Google is our friend
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  today. Starting at the Imola. So when was Imola?
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  May 7th. So it was right before Oaks. Right before
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  Oaks left. Okay. Interesting. I believe. Well,
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  maybe everything was already in the news. He
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  was already thinking he was going to leave. I
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  don't know. I'm not trying to defend Oaks defending
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  Doohan. Yeah, anyhow. Yeah, anyway, what was
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  the point we're getting to here? Because I forgot.
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  I was just talking about Oaks defending Doohan
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  and whatnot. For sure, for sure. Anyway, Alpine,
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  hot garbage at the moment, and dead last in the
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  Constructors, which I did not see coming. I did
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  not see coming, and that is extremely disappointing.
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  Good thing I got one of their hats. Money well
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  spent. We love underdogs. We do. We kind of do,
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  though. That's the thing. So let's see. Let's
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  talk about. i mean williams i guess yeah go with
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  williams you want to go with williams got 10th
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  albon hit us you have it in notes albon hit a
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  sick jump on lap one um he got i think it was
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  with wasn't it against cola pinto where he got
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  pushed a bit and then yeah i think so yeah yeah
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  yeah uh uh yeah he go he goes off he went goes
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  through the grass and then literally gets jumped
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  over and then has to retire later for damage
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  to the car yep um so you know he he did he did
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  start 10th uh he dropped a lot of places luckily
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  signs was able to pick up the pieces and finish
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  in points but that'll suck for albon who didn't
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  have a horrible weekend you know yeah definitely
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  didn't have a horrible weekend definitely not
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  his best weekend we've seen him do better but
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  like uh Yeah, he was in contention for points
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  until that moment, and then, yeah, just damage
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  limitation didn't hold out, unfortunately. Let's
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  just go to Haas. Let's do it. Let's go to Haas.
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  Let's go to Haas. We just did all three of ours
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  right there. Boom, boom, boom. It was a weekend.
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  It was a weekend. I don't even remember. I just
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  have defer to Mike. Yeah, I don't even remember
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  where my team finished. Bearman 11th, Ocon 9th.
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  Ocon 9th. I'm calling him Ocon. Yeah. Esteban.
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  Esteban Ocon. It was fine. I remember, like,
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  seeing Ocon, like, working his way up and was
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  like, oh, okay, he's doing pretty good. But,
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  like, yeah, it was pretty good. A mild weekend.
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  A mild weekend. I mean, we didn't really – I
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  guess we did close in on Williams a little bit,
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  but, like, not really by much at one point. Yeah.
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  Yeah. The difference now being 27. 1 ,000 cuts
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  will get you. Is Haas to Williams is 27? Yes.
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  Still a chunk. Which is almost exactly the amount
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  of points Haas has, so it doesn't bode well.
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  I'm feeling good. I'm feeling lucky. We did talk
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  about Racing Bulls already. Yes, we did. Kick
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  Sauber. Let's just talk about Aston. Wait. Did
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  you just skip over Kick Sauber? He did. Did we
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  not talk about Kickstarter? Oh, we didn't talk
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  about Kickstarter. I was about to say, how dare
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  you? No, you're right. We've just said Bortoletto's
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  names many times, so I thought we talked about
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  them already. Hulkenberg, which I'm very disappointed
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  I missed last episode, because that was just
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  awesome to see. And then follows it up with a
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  P8. Sure, it's not five, but hey, he's still
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  scoring points in Kickstarter right now, and
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  that's kind of fun to watch. Again, making us
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  look at hats today. Yeah, right? I'm super excited.
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  I love Nico Hulkenberg. He's probably one of
• 20:07
  my favorite drivers. Am I a fan of the gambling
• 20:10
  company? The gambling racing team? Yes, you are.
• 20:16
  I'm a fan of Nico Hulkenberg and Gabby Bortoletto.
• 20:20
  It's pretty cool. It'll be Audi next year. Two
• 20:24
  years, sorry. Next year. Is it next year? Yeah,
• 20:26
  next year. I found it's hard to like a team if
• 20:30
  I don't like the drivers, I've realized. I think
• 20:33
  I'm more committed to the drivers. That's why
• 20:36
  he's such a Red Bull fan. He's such a big Max
• 20:39
  fan. That makes sense. I definitely hate Red
• 20:42
  Bull less that Yuki's on it. I will say, I give
• 20:44
  them more sympathy. At least I give him sympathy.
• 20:46
  You really hated Sergio, huh? Oh man, that's
• 20:49
  a good point. I don't think I hated... I disliked...
• 20:52
  I was actually thinking about this the other
• 20:54
  day. Maybe we talk about this when we get to
• 20:56
  Red Bulls. There is a point that I'd like to
• 20:58
  bring up that I had thought about. Are you going
• 20:59
  to remember it when we get there? Yeah. Yeah,
• 21:01
  yeah, yeah. We'll do it. Remember that last time
• 21:03
  was like a thought. What was the segment called?
• 21:06
  We called it just quick thoughts. Quick thoughts.
• 21:08
  I'll have a quick thoughts for us. Yeah, yeah.
• 21:09
  Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah, yeah. For sure.
• 21:11
  I got one. It'll be a really quick one. Joe probably
• 21:14
  knows what it is. Anyway. My quick thought. Anyway.
• 21:18
  What are we talking about? Ah, Kickstarter, yes.
• 21:20
  I mean, that's it, really. Yeah, I think we got
• 21:22
  it. Another great weekend. Gabby kept it on the
• 21:25
  track. He's been fairly mad. Yeah, he didn't
• 21:27
  slam into a wall or anybody else, for that matter.
• 21:30
  It's fine. And then, yeah, Hulkenberg again,
• 21:33
  kind of having a consistent season, honestly.
• 21:36
  Driving the heck out of that car, honestly. Do
• 21:39
  you still have the constructors up? Where is
• 21:41
  Kicksalber in that right now? So, unfortunately,
• 21:43
  they were overtaken by Aston Martin in this race,
• 21:47
  and they are ninth currently. Nine points ahead
• 21:50
  of Alpine and two points away from Aston. But
• 21:55
  only two points away from Aston. And then sixth
• 21:58
  place is at 28 points, right? We say but only
• 22:00
  two points away. No, I know. I hear you. Unfortunately.
• 22:03
  But who's in sixth? Sixth is Haas. and they got
• 22:07
  28 yep yep and then right behind with 28 again
• 22:11
  is racing bulls yeah but i mean a falcon i don't
• 22:13
  know i think it's possible i think those bottom
• 22:16
  teams could get fun i hope alpine can join the
• 22:19
  party but i'm not gonna hold out hope really
• 22:21
  good late season uh that's what they do yeah
• 22:24
  yeah that's true are they gonna are they gonna
• 22:26
  pay focus on a late season so they can finish
• 22:29
  Or are they just going to say, screw this year,
• 22:32
  we're looking at next year? I mean, I think we've
• 22:33
  determined it's a big money difference, though.
• 22:35
  And you'd probably want that allocation heading
• 22:38
  into new regs. I don't know, though. I mean,
• 22:40
  maybe from 6th to 10th, it's not. Compared to,
• 22:44
  like, 1st to 5th. They can focus next year and
• 22:47
  still bring upgrades. They can. It's just means
• 22:50
  that you're... It's possible that the upgrades
• 22:52
  they have planned are all ready for the later
• 22:54
  part of the year anyway. It's true. Yeah, good
• 22:56
  point. Yeah, fair, fair. It's fair. Uh, Kickstarter.
• 22:59
  Yes. Uh, yeah. Aston. And then we'll talk about
• 23:03
  the big four. Um, I mean, Alonzo in points, uh,
• 23:08
  Alonzo qualified really well again. Yeah. Right.
• 23:11
  Was he in points the race prior to, yeah. Did
• 23:14
  he get points? I see. I think he did. He got
• 23:16
  his first points in. So it was the first point.
• 23:18
  Yeah. That's right. So points, two races in a
• 23:20
  row, uh, trending in the right direction for
• 23:22
  Alonzo stroll. Um, is not now, now, Allegedly,
• 23:29
  there was going to be a deal. Was it Stroll?
• 23:33
  I think it was Stroll that allegedly pushed Gasly
• 23:36
  off the track a little bit. And Gasly started
• 23:38
  clipping the wall and crap. It was later in the
• 23:41
  race. Oh, yeah, I remember. But for once, I actually
• 23:44
  do not blame Stroll for that. I think Gasly was
• 23:46
  trying to hit a gap that wasn't there, like another
• 23:48
  driver that we'll talk about in a little bit.
• 23:50
  That made Joe close his eyes. But, yeah, anyway,
• 23:54
  Stroll doing their thing. I don't know. I got
• 23:57
  nothing for Aston. You got an Aston hat on. No,
• 24:00
  you've hit everything that I want to hit. Like,
• 24:02
  just what we want to see out of Fernando. Like,
• 24:05
  he's not getting unlucky. He's not getting screwed
• 24:07
  over by the car. He's not getting screwed over
• 24:09
  by strategy. Like, as long as this keeps up,
• 24:12
  he keeps scoring points. And they're only jump
• 24:15
  back ahead of kick by only two points. I mean,
• 24:17
  again, I think this race at the bottom is going
• 24:20
  to be kind of fun. I think we're going to see
• 24:22
  a lot of movement between sixth and ninth. I
• 24:27
  think 10th is locked at the moment. Anyway. Yeah,
• 24:33
  okay. I had to count the teams. I was like, wait
• 24:36
  a minute. I know I've been doing this. You're
• 24:37
  just the top four, I think. Yeah, so let's do.
• 24:41
  Yeah, Ferrari. That sounds good. Ferrari. You
• 24:46
  know, people can say what they want about Lewis
• 24:49
  Hamilton this year, you know. But, man, he's
• 24:52
  being mad consistent with those mid -top ten
• 24:55
  points. Somewhere in there. Well, it's more the
• 24:58
  back half, right? Between six and eight, nine,
• 25:01
  somewhere in there. He's at least consistently
• 25:04
  staying there. He's not necessarily gaining any
• 25:07
  ground. And he even lost a place this race to
• 25:10
  Leclerc, who started, what, three points, three
• 25:12
  spots back behind him? Yep. Is that a concern
• 25:17
  or not really considering Leclerc is probably
• 25:19
  their quote unquote number one driver? Or do
• 25:21
  they have one when you bring in a guy like Lewis
• 25:23
  Hamilton? Have we ever really determined that
• 25:25
  this year for Ferrari? You know, because we determined
• 25:28
  that. I hope after seeing his performance in
• 25:30
  Mercedes, they don't just think he's going to
• 25:32
  go to Ferrari and everything's going to be like
• 25:33
  the best thing ever. You know, it's a new car
• 25:35
  for him. And I think this line of cars is just
• 25:39
  not suited to his driving style. Ever since we
• 25:41
  got into ground effects era, they've just been
• 25:43
  just not great. And yes, he is consistently getting
• 25:49
  those small points, but he's also consistently
• 25:53
  saying that he's struggling, that the car and
• 25:55
  where he is at is not where he needs to be or
• 25:58
  wants to be. So until he stops saying that, I'm
• 26:01
  going to think that he's struggling. I'm just
• 26:03
  going to take his own word for it. Because if
• 26:07
  Norris was up there, is Hamilton seven then?
• 26:09
  Probably. You know, if Norris didn't wreck out.
• 26:12
  Is Lewis finishing seven instead? Probably. Yeah,
• 26:15
  definitely. You know, are we having the same
• 26:16
  conversation if he finishes seven? You know,
• 26:19
  it's like he can't quite take that step, but
• 26:22
  Leclerc is still doing better, again, in a car
• 26:24
  that he's been in, right? Yeah. Maybe they're
• 26:26
  hoping for a more long -term play with Hamilton.
• 26:29
  Maybe next year he comes out swinging with the
• 26:31
  new cars. I mean, you got to hope if you're signing
• 26:33
  a guy like that, right? Yep. Anything else on
• 26:37
  Ferrari, Mike? No, I got nothing. I didn't even
• 26:40
  pay attention to him. I got to look this way
• 26:40
  more. My neck's getting kinked this episode.
• 26:44
  All right. So, Max Bowles. Max Bowles. Max getting
• 26:51
  P2. So, okay, okay, wait a minute. So, Max, the
• 26:56
  early, ah, whatever, whatever. Max getting P2
• 26:59
  is just going to be what it's going to be, I
• 27:01
  guess. I thought Mercedes actually could have
• 27:05
  one -twoed. There was a point where Antonelli
• 27:09
  was getting close to Max, but I think he used
• 27:12
  up his tires a bit too much and then started
• 27:13
  falling. Which is part of that aggressive nature
• 27:15
  of Antonelli. It's also the rookie nature, I
• 27:19
  would say, of any driver. It just needs more
• 27:22
  time to marinate. But I think the bones are there,
• 27:26
  if you will. You know what I mean? I think the
• 27:29
  right structure is there. What? You like marinade?
• 27:32
  Kev likes marinade. Nice. I'm going to let that
• 27:35
  one marinate. I forgot that's in that show. I
• 27:40
  used to say that before I knew that show existed.
• 27:45
  Where were we? Yes, Max Bowls. Yuki, tough race.
• 27:49
  I mean, yeah, starting off with 10 plays, good
• 27:51
  penalty. I mean, that's just a non -starter,
• 27:52
  right? It's going to be tough to recover from,
• 27:54
  like we talked about racing bowls. So that means
• 27:56
  three Red Bull cars had grid penalties, right?
• 27:59
  To start this race? Since they're one team, Joe?
• 28:03
  Lawson didn't have a grid penalty, though. I
• 28:05
  thought he did. Lawson started from the pit lane.
• 28:07
  Oh, pit lane. That's what it is, pit lane. Well,
• 28:09
  he started from the pit lane because he changed
• 28:10
  parts on the car in Park Faraday. Yeah, but that's
• 28:13
  not technically a panel. I guess it's technically
• 28:15
  not a panel. But, okay, fine. So three Red Bull...
• 28:20
  Okay, you're getting a little aggressive. No.
• 28:22
  So three Red Bull cars started with a disadvantage.
• 28:27
  No. three grade book card yes but you didn't
• 28:30
  say that i know i know i had to correct myself
• 28:32
  after i what ruined after i what i'm trying to
• 28:37
  see how did so we'll open your eyes if you're
• 28:40
  trying to see sonota did also qualify poorly
• 28:45
  uh he qualified 11th um I'm trying to see in
• 28:50
  Lawson qualified 19th. Yeah. So a really bad
• 28:52
  showing from Hedger was once again, the best
• 28:55
  second Red Bull driver. So again, begs the question,
• 28:59
  like we asked about Alpine. No, no, no, no, not
• 29:02
  about switching, but about more of. Has Yuki
• 29:05
  been the right decision over Lawson? I think
• 29:08
  we continue to see that as the right answer.
• 29:09
  You don't think so? No, he does think so. I thought
• 29:13
  you were going to hit me with the one. Should
• 29:15
  Hajar address Yuki? No. I think we're done switching
• 29:20
  seats for everybody right now. It's obvious.
• 29:23
  At this point, it should be well obvious. that
• 29:26
  it's not the driver at the moment, it's the car.
• 29:29
  I think some of these drivers, especially Gasly,
• 29:31
  just need to get to summer break, just take a
• 29:33
  little break, stretch out, and then Alpine's
• 29:36
  going to come get sixth. But anyway, what are
• 29:39
  we talking about here? What are we even talking
• 29:41
  about? You realize this is recorded, right? You
• 29:45
  realize Kev's got to edit all of that out. We're
• 29:47
  clipping that. So since we were saving McLaren
• 29:50
  for last, George Russell. i mean it was just
• 30:00
  a crazy consistent and good race for russell
• 30:04
  he didn't make a single mistake he was never
• 30:06
  under pressure that i know of even at the safety
• 30:09
  car race no there wasn't a race start yeah he
• 30:11
  just he just stayed up front and that's that's
• 30:14
  where he was a little frustrated about and that's
• 30:16
  that was part of their yes dumb outlandish is
• 30:18
  what i put yeah we can talk about that russell
• 30:20
  won this race and at the safety car uh during
• 30:24
  the safety car he made uh he braked very quickly
• 30:28
  after the uh yeah yeah he braked fairly quickly
• 30:30
  while beneath while under while under safety
• 30:34
  car causing max to almost run into him and also
• 30:38
  get past him so they called for his his win to
• 30:41
  be taken away and that was obviously dismissed
• 30:43
  pretty quickly i think but so that one was dismissed
• 30:46
  right away and then there's another one that
• 30:47
  took a few hours that they were trying to say
• 30:49
  that he did not keep 10 car lengths away from
• 30:54
  from max uh and he pulled away when they came
• 30:57
  through the pit the pit lane you know on one
• 30:59
  of the caution laps oh interesting whatever they
• 31:02
  come through the lane it's not oh do you mean
• 31:03
  max did not keep 10 links or not not keep within
• 31:06
  10 links to russell because i think that's their
• 31:08
  rule correct but red bull was trying to say that
• 31:11
  george accelerated too much and he was the reason
• 31:14
  why the gap was too big which also got shot delta
• 31:17
  doesn't really matter yeah which also got shot
• 31:20
  down so he's behind the safety car and within
• 31:23
  delta it does not total had a great comment about
• 31:26
  it and i did not put that in there darn it but
• 31:29
  basically it's just a waste of time like totally
• 31:30
  i mean it's red bull i honestly i'm not even
• 31:33
  surprised it's it's any on it i actually don't
• 31:36
  think any team would do this because it's pretty
• 31:37
  petty but like but It makes sense that Red Bull
• 31:40
  would. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm disappointed
• 31:43
  that the race ended under safety car. Who isn't,
• 31:46
  right? If there was one lap left, do you think
• 31:51
  Max could have actually caught George Russell?
• 31:53
  No. I don't think so either. Russell had it in
• 31:55
  the bag. Okay, second question. Here we go. Could
• 31:58
  Kimi have caught Max for safety? Oh, no. No.
• 32:01
  No. No, I don't think so. So my only argument
• 32:04
  that Max could have caught George... is nobody
• 32:08
  on the grid right now is better coming out of
• 32:11
  a safety car than Max Verstappen, in my opinion.
• 32:13
  True. So now when he's in first, right, obviously.
• 32:16
  But I don't know. I would have liked to see it
• 32:19
  just to know, but I would have been really disappointed
• 32:22
  if Max won over George Russell because George
• 32:24
  earned that this weekend straight up. But I would
• 32:27
  just be curious as to if George was able to get
• 32:31
  as good of a jump as Max does coming out of a
• 32:34
  safety car, like he does. He just... Max is a
• 32:38
  very smart driver. He is. I think Kimmy crashes
• 32:41
  before he gets ahead of Max. Just too aggressive.
• 32:45
  Pretty much copy and paste the McLaren kerfuffle.
• 32:49
  Get into it. Okay, you know what? Let's talk
• 32:53
  about it. Put your clothes back on. Our Spotify
• 33:00
  listeners are going to YouTube right now. You
• 33:02
  asked Max to Russell. kimmy to max yep now we
• 33:07
  got to talk about norris to piastri if he did
• 33:10
  not crash would he have caught piastri would
• 33:12
  he have taken piastri he was he was really pushing
• 33:15
  charging and before before that happened those
• 33:18
  two three turns whatever right before it happened
• 33:20
  he was trying to get him there and then is it
• 33:24
  the double or the double hairpin or the double
• 33:25
  actually get him he was he did get him a little
• 33:28
  bit yeah all the way out and let and let and
• 33:31
  let he broke early and let oscar i don't think
• 33:34
  he let oscar do that i think oscar just got a
• 33:36
  better line because he kind of dive bombed oscar
• 33:39
  a little bit and therefore had a bad line into
• 33:41
  the entry right and that's why he had to back
• 33:43
  out though i don't think he backed i don't think
• 33:44
  he backed up no i don't think he backed up yeah
• 33:46
  pull it out let me see your receipts he braked
• 33:50
  i'm right there too in the video he braked at
• 33:53
  like what like 140 meters or something like that
• 33:55
  and like oscar just broke late like you watch
• 33:58
  him Like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, that's
• 34:02
  not what I was leading up to it. This is what
• 34:03
  I want. Yeah, so this right here. It's not this
• 34:07
  lap, though, right? It is. Yeah, it's coming.
• 34:11
  Wait on it. Wait on it. Sorry, viewers. It's
• 34:13
  not this lap, though, right? We're talking about
• 34:15
  the same or the lap right after they crashed,
• 34:17
  right? No, I'm talking about this lap. Because
• 34:20
  you asked, can Lando take? Oh, yeah. So it's
• 34:23
  not this lap. Joe is right. Well, it'll do it
• 34:26
  in a second. Hold on. Oh, yeah, you're right,
• 34:27
  because here's the new lap. Yeah. Joe knows what
• 34:31
  he's talking about. So right now, we're just
• 34:33
  watching the two McLarens go through the first
• 34:36
  few corners. We're on lap 66 now. We're watching
• 34:38
  Lando follow quick and then get on the inside
• 34:40
  of Piastri, kind of cut him off. Piastri gets
• 34:43
  the switchback and gets alongside Norris and
• 34:47
  starts pulling ahead of him. This is where Lando
• 34:49
  backs off. I do not think Lando backs off there.
• 34:51
  Right here. He comes up heading into this. Piastri
• 34:54
  might. just have... I think Piaget just has...
• 34:57
  Oh, you're talking about right there. Lando did
• 35:02
  not... No, Lando did not back out in that corner
• 35:05
  there. Lando hit his brakes earlier. Lando braked
• 35:10
  to that corner where he normally would, while
• 35:12
  Oscar late broke, and you see that. You can see
• 35:15
  the DRS is closed. You see Lando's closed, and
• 35:17
  then half a second later, you watch as Oscar's
• 35:19
  closed. Oscar just broke later and took an inside
• 35:22
  line and just... Just had it. We're watching
• 35:25
  them alongside at the moment. We see Lando. ahead
• 35:30
  of oscar and then yeah there's really really
• 35:35
  really fast you're right so okay uh lando can't
• 35:39
  make the turn with oscar alongside he has to
• 35:42
  slot in behind him he can't get ahead of him
• 35:44
  he knows oscar is not going to stop he's no oscar's
• 35:47
  not going to give him the place so he has to
• 35:49
  move in behind him and then unfortunately they
• 35:51
  get onto the starting straight lando's directly
• 35:53
  behind him he goes for the inside gap that was
• 35:56
  not there hits piastri's tire hits the wall end
• 35:59
  of race lando safety car comes out ends on a
• 36:01
  safety car so to answer your question yes i think
• 36:04
  lando could have passed really if if that's why
• 36:08
  i'm 66 that's four more laps four more laps four
• 36:11
  more laps of fighting if lando was more patient
• 36:14
  with it he absolutely could have found his opportunity
• 36:16
  do you think piastri keeps the place or does
• 36:18
  it get taken no i think i think oscar's keeping
• 36:21
  it I think it's close. I think they're both so
• 36:25
  good at fighting, and they were going to keep
• 36:26
  fighting. That made me nervous, and I wasn't
• 36:28
  even a McLaren fan. But when that was happening,
• 36:30
  I was like, oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Like, don't
• 36:33
  take them both out. Yeah, dude. Oh, we are so
• 36:36
  lucky. I am so lucky. Can you imagine? I was
• 36:39
  like, and then, yeah. I would have made things
• 36:43
  a little bit more. More interesting as we get
• 36:46
  closer to summer break. They wouldn't have changed
• 36:48
  their standings, but it would have made things
• 36:50
  a little more interesting. Constructors, it would
• 36:52
  have made things closer, right? They're running
• 36:54
  away with it, right? They're running away with
• 36:56
  it. Constructors as well. They're running away
• 36:57
  with it, but it would have put the thought in
• 37:00
  your brain. Sure. Okay, you're a McLaren fan,
• 37:02
  so I wouldn't know. It would have put a thought
• 37:04
  in my brain. It puts the driver's championship
• 37:05
  more in my brain ever than it would the constructor's
• 37:07
  championship. Which is fair, especially with
• 37:09
  George winning a race now. Yeah, and Antonelli
• 37:12
  getting third. Oh, we didn't talk about this.
• 37:14
  I think just super quick, like we're already
• 37:17
  on McLaren. I want to jump back to Mercedes for
• 37:18
  a quick second. Do it up. But McLaren, I think
• 37:22
  Piastri probably keeps the place. And if he doesn't,
• 37:26
  I think he gets it back. I mean, he was fighting
• 37:28
  so hard. Norris does not get Piastri on that
• 37:32
  starting straight. And if he doesn't get him
• 37:35
  there, I don't think he gets him anywhere. I
• 37:38
  think Norris had his had his opportunity on lap
• 37:42
  66 and just lost it. Plus, Norris is right behind
• 37:45
  Piastri picking up a ton of dirty air. His tires
• 37:49
  die before the last lap of the race. Yep. And
• 37:52
  he just and I think he even he probably I'm even
• 37:54
  I'll even be so bold to say he gets within he
• 37:58
  probably loses like five tenths of Piastri by
• 38:00
  the end of the race. Yeah. Fair enough. I do
• 38:03
  also want to point out, too, that Oscar was very
• 38:05
  quickly charging on Kimmy and probably would
• 38:08
  have caught Kimmy if it weren't for them running
• 38:10
  into back markers pretty much as soon as Oscar
• 38:13
  was catching Kimmy because Oscar put himself
• 38:15
  within DRS to Kimmy again. Oh, yeah, they both
• 38:18
  had DRS. That's a great point. They had DRS.
• 38:21
  Granted. I think if Lando didn't crash, them
• 38:25
  fighting would have lost probably that lead to
• 38:27
  Kimmy, which means Lando would have had DRS on
• 38:30
  Piastri through the back straight. Stop playing
• 38:35
  devil's advocate for yourself. I don't know.
• 38:38
  It's a hard decision. I think overall, Piastri,
• 38:41
  I think I agree with you. I think Piastri probably
• 38:43
  keeps it, but I really wish we would have been
• 38:45
  able to see the right battle. But I get why it
• 38:49
  happened, and he immediately took blame. He said,
• 38:51
  this is all my fault. I shouldn't, you know.
• 38:54
  Respect. Yeah, for sure. The fact that it came
• 38:56
  right away, too. Like, he knew he messed up.
• 38:59
  Like, I should not have done that. Yep, seeing
• 39:01
  him, he apologized to Piastri as soon as he saw
• 39:03
  him out in the media pen. He took full responsibility
• 39:07
  for it, and it was fully his fault. Hey, that's
• 39:09
  just two of the best racers on the grid right
• 39:11
  now going at it. Exactly. But, again, that's
• 39:14
  the inevitable. Finally, it's happened. The inevitable
• 39:17
  has finally happened that I've been on about
• 39:20
  now. Don't get me wrong. I don't think this is
• 39:23
  going to be at. No, you guys are trying to shoot
• 39:26
  me down earlier in the season. What? Yeah. No,
• 39:29
  it's not going to happen. They got a clear number.
• 39:32
  That they weren't going to fight like that. No,
• 39:34
  no, no, no, no. Maybe. I knew they were going
• 39:38
  to fight. I knew they were going to come together
• 39:39
  and crash at some point. I would say we all knew
• 39:41
  that this was inevitable. They were eventually
• 39:44
  going to clash. I think very early in the season,
• 39:45
  I probably wouldn't have thought that simply
• 39:48
  because of the orders that were taken last season.
• 39:50
  I didn't expect Piaget to be competing so hard.
• 39:53
  Enough said. You didn't expect him to come out
• 39:56
  the gate winning races? Yes, exactly. I didn't.
• 39:58
  So now that he is, I mean, begs the question,
• 40:02
  like... Were team orders needed there? I'm personally
• 40:05
  happy that they weren't given. They were silent.
• 40:08
  What do they do after? Do they start enforcing
• 40:13
  more team orders or do they just keep letting
• 40:14
  them fight? I'm with Mike. I think they let them
• 40:16
  fight because I don't think this is actually
• 40:18
  going to happen again. Now that we've seen it,
• 40:19
  I don't... I don't feel like I did beforehand
• 40:22
  now. You know what I mean? It's changed for me.
• 40:24
  Now that it has happened, one of them didn't
• 40:27
  finish the race. I think if they both don't finish
• 40:28
  the race, it's a little bit different feel to
• 40:31
  me. But at least one finished the race. This
• 40:33
  isn't a freaking Max Verstappen and Danny Ricardo
• 40:37
  situation by any means. You know what I mean?
• 40:41
  But I think now that it's happened, now I think
• 40:44
  they're both. I don't know. I just feel like
• 40:45
  they're going to have a little bit more. space
• 40:48
  around them which could be a negative thing yeah
• 40:50
  you know they might be more timid around each
• 40:53
  other now i don't know i think i don't think
• 40:55
  piastri's shaken at all about this because i
• 40:57
  think norse i could see norse's and i'm seeing
• 41:02
  this a lot on like socials norse's confidence
• 41:04
  could probably be a little shaken um i'm hoping
• 41:07
  it doesn't affect his race pace but if he gets
• 41:09
  close he just has to he just has to i mean he
• 41:12
  has to go at it a different way i guess right
• 41:15
  I'm actually hoping he it would probably be best
• 41:18
  if nothing changes and he just makes better decisions.
• 41:21
  Right. But, you know, what are you going to do?
• 41:23
  Yeah. I don't know. I don't I don't think they'll
• 41:27
  knock each other out. But I hope so. That's me.
• 41:30
  You hope they do. I hope they don't. No, I'm
• 41:31
  just kidding. Calm call out. Oh, sorry. Quick
• 41:36
  touch. Touch on Mercedes. Just want to kind of
• 41:38
  gauge. Do they carry this momentum or is this
• 41:41
  just the track that suited them? Well, just a
• 41:43
  track. I mean, it's not like they've been trash
• 41:46
  all year. That's my only thing. That'd be my
• 41:48
  only argument is that George Russell has had
• 41:51
  some podiums this year. Yes, but this is Antonelli's
• 41:58
  first, and it's their first double podium. I
• 42:01
  don't think they can double podium again. I think
• 42:05
  that might be the track, but I think George Russell
• 42:07
  being P5 or better is what we've seen all year.
• 42:11
  He's competing. I think Kimi's gotten better
• 42:14
  throughout the season. Can Kimi continue to battle
• 42:18
  or beat the likes of Piastri and Lando Norris?
• 42:21
  No way. But do I think Kimi can compete and beat
• 42:24
  Charles Leclerc and Lewis Hamilton right now?
• 42:26
  Yeah. I think he can carry that momentum and
• 42:29
  compete with the Ferraris. I feel like a lot
• 42:31
  of people have a lot of recency bias because
• 42:33
  of this finish. And Mercedes has come out and...
• 42:37
  They were saying going into Canada that they
• 42:39
  felt really strong about this. Canada is a good
• 42:41
  track for them. And their biggest strength right
• 42:43
  now is in cool track climates. And when the track
• 42:47
  gets hot, they struggle with their tires. So
• 42:50
  the reason why they were so strong here is because
• 42:51
  they're really good in colder environments. So
• 42:54
  I think as we move to warmer tracks, we're going
• 42:57
  to see them struggle more. I think we'll see
• 43:01
  a couple more good races out of them, particularly
• 43:04
  some of the cooler tracks. But outside of those
• 43:07
  colder tracks, I think we might see them doing
• 43:10
  what they've been doing. Maybe another couple
• 43:12
  podiums, but I wouldn't expect too much more.
• 43:14
  Do you think they can double podium again? No.
• 43:16
  Yeah, I don't think so either. But I do think
• 43:18
  Antonelli, even from the start of the season,
• 43:21
  he's been aggressive all year, and he's been
• 43:23
  learning the ins and outs and whatever. I'm no
• 43:26
  F1 driver. I don't know what that learning curve
• 43:29
  is. But I think we've seen enough that Antonelli
• 43:33
  could even podium without George Russell or something.
• 43:36
  You know, that I could see happening. I think
• 43:39
  it'd have to be a very specific situation, like
• 43:42
  probably a cold air track, you know. But because
• 43:46
  you're totally, you hit the nail on the head
• 43:47
  on that one. Mercedes is absolutely a cold track
• 43:50
  race car. Anyway. I think they can carry some
• 43:56
  momentum, to answer your question. But I don't
• 43:58
  see another double podium. I could see another
• 44:01
  George Russell win, though. Okay. I'm going to
• 44:05
  have to take him in the picks someday soon to
• 44:09
  win. Soon, even? It won't be this week. I can
• 44:12
  spoil that. I'm probably going to pick him at
• 44:14
  some point later in the season. At least to podium
• 44:16
  or to win? To win. I've got my eyes on a track
• 44:20
  later in the season. You'll figure it out. Get
• 44:23
  off my back. Did I nail it? Did I nail it? I
• 44:28
  think I nailed it. Calm call -outs. I got two
• 44:32
  calm call -outs. Lap 21, Albon states, I don't
• 44:36
  really know why we don't listen to me. It really
• 44:38
  annoys me. Later that lap, his engineer asks
• 44:42
  him to box now and Albon replies, no, don't box
• 44:45
  now. Don't box now. Yep. Uh, so frustrations
• 44:49
  between what he believes is the right call and
• 44:51
  what I think actually was the right call. I don't
• 44:54
  think he made the right call staying out, unfortunately.
• 44:56
  Um, and then obviously he retires the car. I'll
• 44:58
  just trust your team a little bit. Yep. Lap 32,
• 45:01
  uh, Fernando's engineers, uh, tell some gentle
• 45:04
  turns three and eight. Fernando replies with,
• 45:06
  we are racing, not testing. I loved that one
• 45:08
  too. Oh yeah. That was a great answer. That was
• 45:11
  a great answer. Uh, that's all the call outs
• 45:13
  I got though. Yeah. I knew there wasn't many.
• 45:15
  I do remember both of those. That Alonzo one,
• 45:17
  that was awesome. That was definitely an Alonzo
• 45:20
  thing. What's your quick thought, Joe? Okay.
• 45:24
  You said something about Red Bull. Yes. I was
• 45:29
  thinking about this the other day. I was really
• 45:31
  hard on Checo last year. I think a lot of people
• 45:34
  were. Everybody was. Because he was not competing
• 45:36
  with Max even a little bit, consistently getting
• 45:38
  below top 10. And now we're seeing that it's
• 45:40
  the car's fault. Or are we dumb for trying to
• 45:44
  compare so many different people, drivers, to
• 45:46
  Max Verstappen? I don't think I could ever compare.
• 45:51
  Well, I mean, it's hard to say because he was
• 45:54
  right behind Max. for some of his others a number
• 45:58
  of times and then just and then he just like
• 46:00
  all of a sudden he fell below 10th i think now
• 46:03
  that we're seeing lawson didn't get anywhere
• 46:06
  close to max like anywhere yuki's not getting
• 46:09
  anywhere close to max where we know we and then
• 46:12
  max is even struggling with his own car we can
• 46:15
  guess that these issues probably stemmed a little
• 46:17
  bit from last season probably not as widely as
• 46:20
  this season because max is struggling so much
• 46:21
  too um but i think it changed it changed something
• 46:26
  in me after realizing that's like why it was
• 46:28
  probably a little hard on checo he had a hard
• 46:30
  car to drive um and i think his letting i let
• 46:35
  his tenure of being a race car driver and being
• 46:38
  red bull kind of get in the way of just the cars
• 46:40
  meant for max verstappen maybe and he's not max
• 46:43
  verstappen um that being said i think that so
• 46:47
  i just kind of i guess i guess here we go wanted
• 46:49
  your thoughts maybe on if checko really deserved
• 46:54
  to be kicked off red bull at the time like if
• 46:57
  they know what they know now if they knew what
• 46:59
  they know now if they knew that the car was flawed
• 47:01
  do they still kick checko off i hate hindsight
• 47:04
  questions like that because it's like well yeah
• 47:07
  of course right but i mean checko's coming back
• 47:10
  to f1 no he's not yes he is you know i'm actually
• 47:13
  i'm actually on board i don't think he's coming
• 47:14
  back that's changed that has changed you're like
• 47:18
  oh he could yeah you're alone that's all right
• 47:24
  i'm alone i don't think he's coming back i think
• 47:29
  like i heard that his father was making remarks
• 47:32
  like somebody was talking to his father and his
• 47:34
  father was making remarks saying that chaco's
• 47:36
  done he's not going he has no intent to go back
• 47:39
  to f1 at racing at all though maybe I don't know
• 47:42
  about racing at all. His father just said he
• 47:44
  has no intent to go back to Formula 1. He should
• 47:45
  come to IndyCar. Checo's going into politics.
• 47:49
  Checo for FIA president? We'll see. We still
• 47:51
  don't know who the two... We still don't know
• 47:54
  who the two drivers are for Cadillac yet. The
• 47:57
  Mexican Minister of Defense becomes the president?
• 48:01
  Okay, so that was your quick thought. That was
• 48:03
  my quick thought. Do you have a quick thought?
• 48:06
  No. I don't have very many. He doesn't have thoughts
• 48:09
  in general. Correct. My quick thought came pre
• 48:12
  -pod. All pirates are Irish. Oh, my God. No,
• 48:17
  we're not bringing this back up. Kev, let's head
• 48:20
  right into our news. All right, we got some news
• 48:39
  for you. Mike actually brought us this news about
• 48:42
  the Irish driver in FP1. Oh, yeah, I can bring
• 48:45
  that up. Oh, that's probably why the Irish...
• 48:46
  Oh, we kind of did start going nice. Holy cow,
• 48:49
  I didn't think you were doing something with
• 48:50
  that. Me either. Yeah, so coming up in FP1, driving
• 48:56
  for Lando Norris in Austria this season, Alex
• 49:01
  Dunn. A driver from the McLaren Academy will
• 49:05
  be driving. And he is the first Irish driver
• 49:08
  to drive a Formula One car in 43 years. So, very
• 49:13
  exciting. The first Irish driver that I know
• 49:16
  of. So, I don't know. Same. He's also worth noting
• 49:19
  the driver who caused a massive pileup in F2.
• 49:22
  I should bring up. At Monaco. But he is also
• 49:25
  worth noting currently winning the F2 championship.
• 49:27
  So, he's pretty fast. Yeah, I mean. mclaren's
• 49:33
  not really strapped for drivers at the moment
• 49:35
  unfortunately uh so he he'd be a good uh reserve
• 49:39
  cadillac but mayhap cadillac yeah mayhap mick
• 49:42
  schumacher hey mayhap yeah you can't just say
• 49:47
  perchance you know you said that he was responsible
• 49:51
  for the crash and f2 at monaco but so was k megan
• 49:55
  he's a legend so For different reasons. I'm just
• 49:59
  kidding. I'm just kidding. All right. What's
• 50:01
  this Botas thing? Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
• 50:04
  This is amazing. Botas made a short video the
• 50:08
  other day where him and someone else who was
• 50:11
  videotaping him went up to a Cadillac. They're
• 50:14
  like, oh, this is a nice car. This is a nice
• 50:15
  car. And they're like, oh, look, the seat's open.
• 50:17
  And they looked it up. They opened up the car.
• 50:19
  And he's like, oh, yeah, this is nice. The seat's
• 50:21
  really nice here. It's like, oh, but look, there's
• 50:23
  two seats open. He's like, oh, look at the passengers.
• 50:26
  Were you going to get in? And then he looked
• 50:28
  at the camera and he said, not yet. Is that his
• 50:33
  video to Cadillac to put him in the car? I think
• 50:36
  what's funny is that there are a lot of people
• 50:39
  like, oh my God, he's soft launching his entry
• 50:41
  into Cadillac. And I was like, no, he's 100 %
• 50:43
  trolling us. He's 100%. I think he would take
• 50:46
  the opportunity to drive for them. You got the
• 50:50
  mullet man and then you got Checo to get the
• 50:52
  Mexico support. You got mullet man that's somehow
• 50:56
  going to get the American support. Our American
• 50:58
  -Australian. Where is he actually from? Norway?
• 51:02
  Finland? Finland, yeah. No, he's Finnish. Our
• 51:05
  American -Australian Finnish guy. Yeah, our American
• 51:09
  -Australian Finnish guy. That's the guy. Valtteri,
• 51:11
  you know him? Yeah, he's Finnish. So, anyway.
• 51:16
  Counterpoint. I'm now along the lines of there's
• 51:21
  been a lot of talk that the second they'll probably
• 51:22
  take a veteran driver, somebody hopefully like
• 51:24
  Valtteri Bottas and the other driver will be
• 51:26
  a rookie. And there's a lot of talk about Felipe
• 51:28
  Drogovic. OK, yeah, because he's doing nothing
• 51:32
  in Aston. So why would he just sit there? He
• 51:35
  could go actually driving on the sidelines for
• 51:37
  a while, too. Yes. So, Joe, that just leads me
• 51:41
  to ask you, then, do you think this is the end
• 51:43
  of Mick Schumacher? Mick Schumacher is steadily
• 51:47
  racing in other things at the moment. That's
• 51:48
  what I mean. I do not think he's racing for Alpine
• 51:51
  in sports car at the moment. He raced in Le Mans.
• 51:54
  Finished top 10 in Le Mans. He did, which is,
• 51:56
  I mean, yeah, top 10 is fine. I mean, his car
• 51:59
  finished. To be fair, he finished in Le Mans
• 52:02
  last year. Both Alpines were out fairly quickly.
• 52:04
  So, yeah, it's decent. And, hey, you know what?
• 52:08
  Alpine is actually doing stuff. Everywhere but
• 52:12
  F1. Everywhere but F1. Mick Schumacher for Kalapinto?
• 52:17
  Oh, my God. There were also people that were,
• 52:19
  like, people noticed that, like, some Cadillac.
• 52:25
  like soiree that happened a little while back
• 52:26
  mick schumacher was there and people were like
• 52:29
  could this maybe be a thing and i'm just like
• 52:31
  come on guys quit that's what we should turn
• 52:34
  into signed up with yeah i mean like the weird
• 52:37
  like toto and alpine reno relationship i think
• 52:40
  helped him get that alpine gig a little bit maybe
• 52:43
  but like yeah he's he's driving there f1 i mean
• 52:46
  f1 drivers find success in sports car like you
• 52:48
  know right now did uh uh jensen button right
• 52:53
  uh he he actually qualified like i think like
• 52:55
  first or third in le mans in a cadillac uh this
• 52:59
  last these last few weekends ago so actually
• 53:01
  same same uh weekend as the canada gp so oh yeah
• 53:05
  they're they're doing stuff all right all right
• 53:08
  uh what's up no nothing just saying all right
• 53:11
  all right all right all right cool all right
• 53:13
  cool okay uh montreal race extended through 2035
• 53:17
  so we're gonna get more canada yay Okay. Vowels
• 53:23
  signs a long -term deal to stay with Williams.
• 53:27
  How do you feel about that, Joe? I think it's
• 53:29
  a great idea. Yeah. I mean, his whole deal has
• 53:33
  been Williams for the future, getting drivers
• 53:36
  that are going to stick around and build Williams
• 53:38
  up. If he wants to do that, he needs to be on
• 53:41
  the team for a while. So I think it's absolutely
• 53:43
  the call. I mean, there was no doubt. And both
• 53:46
  drivers are signed through next year, right?
• 53:49
  yeah through yeah yeah i've heard talk about
• 53:52
  both drivers having at least two plus one deals
• 53:54
  okay yeah they at least are they at least the
• 53:57
  hundred percent at least are starting next year
• 53:59
  oh is albon maybe not albon actually hold on
• 54:04
  I'm fairly certain Albon's got a long deal. I
• 54:06
  feel like with all the seat movement we had this
• 54:07
  year, you wouldn't sign a driver not through
• 54:09
  new regs. You know what I mean? Albon has a contract
• 54:14
  through 2027. There is someone on the grid that
• 54:18
  ends this year. George Russell. Russell, that's
• 54:21
  the one. He's not going anywhere. They have not
• 54:24
  signed his contract. Neither have they, Kimmy,
• 54:26
  either. God, I'm so tired of seeing all the tabloids.
• 54:30
  Could Max be going to Mercedes? Why they haven't
• 54:33
  signed. Max gets his final penalty penalty point.
• 54:37
  That'll trigger the contract loophole that he'll
• 54:39
  get to. Yeah. It's like, he's not going anywhere
• 54:43
  and neither is George. I don't think every time
• 54:46
  I see it, I'm like, shut up. Okay. But kind of
• 54:49
  like, kind of a fun thought, a scary thought,
• 54:51
  but like, here we go. What if they're right?
• 54:53
  And like, and what if mix? What if, what if mattress
• 54:56
  tapping is like, I don't want to be a part of
• 54:58
  the scummy team anymore. And then. They give
• 55:02
  Kimmy's spot to Max. How crazy would that be?
• 55:06
  I don't think Max is going to. No, I don't. I'm
• 55:09
  just saying what if, you know. It'd be awful.
• 55:12
  There's no way they would. Max and George don't
• 55:15
  get along. They can't drive together. That's
• 55:17
  a really good point. Ocon and Gasly didn't get
• 55:20
  along. Yeah, look how that went for them. It
• 55:22
  didn't go well. I think we sooner see Max go
• 55:26
  to Aston. I don't think Ocon gets along with
• 55:28
  a lot of drivers, though, unfortunately. He's
• 55:30
  getting along well with all these. I suppose,
• 55:32
  yeah. Esteban has actually been super happy at
• 55:35
  Haas. How many bad situations can you say that
• 55:40
  he's been in? How many headlines has he made
• 55:42
  since he's moved to Haas? He's been pretty consistently
• 55:44
  okay. He's chilling. He's living his best life
• 55:47
  right now. It's best for him. With that, Kev,
• 55:52
  I think we've got to head now into our Austria
• 55:55
  preview. all right now i'm here to bring you
• 56:10
  up to speed for the formula one msc cruises austrian
• 56:14
  grand prix 2025 per usual Fun fact, Niki Lauda
• 56:20
  is the only Austrian to win his home race, and
• 56:23
  this track has the fewest corners on the F1 calendar.
• 56:26
  Looking back to last year, our starting three
• 56:31
  were Max, Tolando, to George. Off the line, and
• 56:35
  Max gets an expert start, planting himself firmly
• 56:37
  in first, heading ahead of Lando and George,
• 56:40
  who start fighting up the hill with Lewis and
• 56:42
  Carlos behind. Through the second DRS straight,
• 56:45
  Piastri and Checo fight for position and go through
• 56:47
  the corner, Checo not giving any room to Piastri,
• 56:49
  who has to retreat into the gravel behind the
• 56:51
  Red Bull. Now fending off the Ferrari of Leclerc,
• 56:54
  who at the starting line picked up some damage
• 56:56
  in a close call with Piastri. He pits for a new
• 56:59
  wing a lap later. Hamilton starts making some
• 57:02
  time and gets an overtake on his teammate for
• 57:04
  third on the third lap of the race. With the
• 57:06
  help of the DRS on the second straight, Russell's
• 57:08
  able to make his place back with a super clean
• 57:10
  overtake before the wide corner. After a radio
• 57:13
  message from Bono, Hamilton is told to give position
• 57:15
  back to Sainz for an infringement made on lap
• 57:17
  one. He starts fighting Sainz for position only
• 57:20
  a couple laps later. At the same time, just behind,
• 57:22
  Piastri attacks Checo for a spot back and makes
• 57:25
  an incredible overtake on the outside of turn
• 57:27
  six for sixth position. On lap 20, we watch Joe
• 57:31
  get hit from behind at the corner above the hill
• 57:33
  from Alonzo, locking up and running into the
• 57:35
  side of him. Alonzo picks up a 10 -second penalty.
• 57:38
  Up through lap 36, we watch a pair of Alpines
• 57:40
  fight each other as they get held up from Alonzo
• 57:42
  ahead. Ocon finally manages to overtake Alonzo,
• 57:45
  and in the lap after, Gasly makes a move ahead
• 57:47
  of Alonzo and in competition with Ocon. Through
• 57:49
  the top hill corner, they fight and push one
• 57:51
  another off track, Ocon keeping Gasly behind.
• 57:54
  This isn't the end of their squabble as we watch
• 57:56
  this fight continue through lap 41, Gasly finally
• 57:59
  making... The moves stick on his teammate. A
• 58:01
  slow pit stop from Verstappen and an uncharistic
• 58:04
  lockup at turn four finds Norse closing the gap
• 58:07
  to first place quickly on lap 52. Lap 55, the
• 58:11
  fight begins with Lando taking some looks at
• 58:13
  overtakes on Max at the top of the hill. He keeps
• 58:17
  the position behind Max for another four laps
• 58:19
  until he makes the overtake up the hill at the
• 58:21
  same corner. However, it does so off track, Max
• 58:24
  leaving him no space whatsoever, having him give
• 58:26
  it back to his rival at the end of the straight.
• 58:28
  On lap 63, a similar move is made. by lando this
• 58:31
  time keeping it on track but locking up slightly
• 58:34
  forcing max to take a line off track lando is
• 58:36
  ahead for a moment but max speeds ahead from
• 58:38
  him track speeds ahead from off track rather
• 58:41
  back in the first place max doesn't give the
• 58:44
  place and instead on the very next lap they go
• 58:46
  wheel to wheel up the hill once more this time
• 58:48
  making contact with one another lando's back
• 58:51
  right collides with max's back left immediately
• 58:53
  puncturing it and picking up wing damage to his
• 58:56
  own car as well they both need to pit giving
• 58:58
  russell the opportunity at a win 15 seconds behind.
• 59:02
  Norris pits to retire and Verstappen is able
• 59:04
  to pit and only drops down to fifth. All the
• 59:06
  while, with 65 laps left, Piastri starts to fight
• 59:08
  Carlos for the second podium position. Piastri
• 59:11
  makes a similar outside overtake on Sainz as
• 59:13
  he did on Checo, taking second position from
• 59:15
  the Spaniard. Russell, he who falls into the
• 59:18
  podium positions, takes the lines for first place,
• 59:21
  followed by Piastri and Sainz completing the
• 59:23
  podium. Our finals, Russell, Piastri, Sainz,
• 59:26
  Hamilton, Verstappen, Hulkenberg, Perez, Magnussen,
• 59:29
  Ricard. and ghastly hulkenberg and magnuson in
• 59:32
  the top 10 yeah that was uh that was like if
• 59:40
  i remember correctly that was like uh what do
• 59:43
  they call it like the first shot between like
• 59:45
  max and and and lando that was like our first
• 59:48
  like look into them fighting and it was ugly
• 59:52
  it was so ugly we watched that race together
• 59:54
  and i remember you saying like as they were getting
• 59:57
  close and they were fighting you were like i'm
• 59:58
  starting to get that sick feeling again like
• 1:00:00
  three corners later they hit and you were just
• 1:00:03
  quiet i was like joe are you okay this is also
• 1:00:08
  i also remember this being the race where they
• 1:00:10
  showed the mclaren car and they looked at the
• 1:00:11
  wing and there was a little spike at the end
• 1:00:13
  of the wing of the mclaren car and i was like
• 1:00:15
  yeah you don't want to get close to that or you'll
• 1:00:16
  pick up a puncture and lo and behold uh it was
• 1:00:20
  A messy, messy end of the race for McLaren and
• 1:00:23
  Red Bull, specifically Max and Lando. Messy,
• 1:00:25
  messy, messy. Oh, my gosh. That was a good callback.
• 1:00:30
  Completely unrelated to what we're talking about,
• 1:00:32
  but a good callback. So that was Austria. How
• 1:00:35
  do you guys like this track? I love this track.
• 1:00:37
  This is a fun track. It's a fun one to race.
• 1:00:38
  It's like a very simple track, but it's fun,
• 1:00:40
  I think. Yeah. I mean, we get, what, three DRS
• 1:00:45
  zones? And it's like, yeah, starting straight.
• 1:00:48
  up the hill and then the turn right after and
• 1:00:51
  then yeah down and then they repeat it literally
• 1:00:53
  like 20 seconds later yeah all right because
• 1:00:56
  at that point you're just doing sector three
• 1:00:58
  and you're done you're almost i would say for
• 1:00:59
  half the lap you might be in the drs yes actually
• 1:01:02
  yeah it is pretty fun it's it's really fast yes
• 1:01:05
  it's so fast very fast yep uh we also uh historically
• 1:01:10
  have seen a lot of um track violations yes um
• 1:01:14
  because of that that final turn yeah yep that
• 1:01:17
  final turn and also last year we saw a lot of
• 1:01:20
  people at the end of turn six going on the inside
• 1:01:24
  before they get close to the pit straight there's
• 1:01:26
  a gravel trap there now too to stop people from
• 1:01:29
  going wide because that was also an issue a year
• 1:01:31
  beforehand so i'm looking forward to this race
• 1:01:33
  it should be a fun one it'll be a fun one so
• 1:01:37
  fair enough um what do you think smelty what
• 1:01:40
  do you think He's busy looking up analytics right
• 1:01:43
  now. He's sitting here looking over everything.
• 1:01:47
  Everything, yeah. I'm looking at everything right
• 1:01:49
  now. Man didn't prep beforehand. Not for predictions,
• 1:01:53
  absolutely not. Zero preparation. I am in my
• 1:01:56
  mind palace. Yeah, actually, I'm not supposed
• 1:02:00
  to go first anyway. Oh, actually, I do. Smelty.
• 1:02:04
  I had a good week. He's back into the lead. He
• 1:02:05
  had a very good week. I had a good week again.
• 1:02:08
  Somehow, I just don't know how he does it. You
• 1:02:10
  know what it was? He can't keep getting away
• 1:02:12
  with it. Truly. George was on my podium. Yep.
• 1:02:15
  And I had Max at second, so I got the bonus point
• 1:02:19
  for that. So you're going to do it again? No.
• 1:02:22
  Put George on your podium. No, no. I'm actually
• 1:02:24
  a little bit concerned. George won here last
• 1:02:26
  year. He's trying to tie me into it. You hear
• 1:02:28
  that? You should do it. Last year. Do it. Back
• 1:02:32
  -to -back wins, baby. You were saying you're
• 1:02:39
  going to pick George very soon. That's true.
• 1:02:42
  That was true. A quote from one Tyler Smelty.
• 1:02:46
  I think... Oh, man. Tough. Tough cookies here.
• 1:02:56
  Wait, who did I say was going to be soon? George.
• 1:03:00
  Oh. Yeah, I did say soon. Yeah. Yeah. So it's
• 1:03:06
  gaslighting us. No, I didn't. I did it. Crazy.
• 1:03:10
  I'd be like, man, this guy really is an Alpine
• 1:03:11
  fan. Delusional. Oh, man, I don't want to do
• 1:03:18
  it, but do it. It's going to be Max Landau George.
• 1:03:26
  Max Lando George. He did it. He did it. He put
• 1:03:29
  George on the podium. That's awesome. I really
• 1:03:32
  want to put Oscar up there, though. I think both
• 1:03:34
  McLarens absolutely could be double podium this
• 1:03:36
  week. I think we are. Get back to what they know.
• 1:03:40
  Yeah. So do you want to do the same thing we
• 1:03:41
  did last week and try saying our stuff at the
• 1:03:43
  same time? Oh, man. Ooh, yes. Are we tied? We
• 1:03:46
  are. Oh, yep. You have to say it at the same
• 1:03:48
  time. I hate it here. It makes sense. Them's
• 1:03:49
  the rules. Them's the rules. Those are the rules
• 1:03:52
  that I made up just now. Go, go, go. Do you want
• 1:03:54
  to start third? Sure. Do you have it in mind?
• 1:03:56
  Yep. All right. Three, two, one. Max Verstappen.
• 1:04:01
  You put Lando in third? I did. I'm shocked. I
• 1:04:05
  thought for sure you were going to put Lando
• 1:04:07
  on first with how fast he was. This is one of
• 1:04:10
  Lando's best tracks. I think we're going to have
• 1:04:12
  the same podium again, except different orders.
• 1:04:15
  You ready for second? Yeah. Three, two, one.
• 1:04:19
  Max. And then you're both taking Oscar to win.
• 1:04:23
  Oscar first. And then Oscar first. So we've got
• 1:04:27
  that out of the way. One quick thing. One reason.
• 1:04:29
  You're crazy putting George on your podium. I
• 1:04:31
  know. I know. I know. You heard me say earlier
• 1:04:35
  that they're super fast in cold tracks and super
• 1:04:39
  bad on hot tracks. And I saw you looking at the
• 1:04:42
  weather. You know it's supposed to be in the
• 1:04:45
  80s. It's cold leading up until race day. It's
• 1:04:47
  supposed to be like 85 degrees, which is like
• 1:04:51
  30 degrees Celsius. I'm seeing 78. But I did
• 1:04:56
  see 86 on another one, though. So who knows,
• 1:05:00
  right? We're doing this. From the U .S., and
• 1:05:03
  these are all probably correct. Did you give
• 1:05:04
  your prediction knowing that? I looked at it.
• 1:05:07
  Or did you look after saying your prediction?
• 1:05:08
  No, he looked at it beforehand. This whole time,
• 1:05:10
  all the end of your up to speed, I'm sitting
• 1:05:12
  here looking at the track and the turns and just,
• 1:05:14
  like, re -familiarizing myself with Austria.
• 1:05:17
  Like, oh, yeah, Red Bull Ring. Okay. I love that
• 1:05:18
  track. And then, you know, looking at the temps,
• 1:05:21
  temps of practice, weather of practice. Are they
• 1:05:24
  going to get good practice in or not? You know,
• 1:05:27
  qualifying. I think. I think you're going to
• 1:05:32
  be lucky if you see George in the top five. Ooh.
• 1:05:35
  Lucky if we see George in the top five. I frankly
• 1:05:37
  was fighting between Max and Charles Leclerc
• 1:05:41
  for a third. Oh. And picked Max because it's
• 1:05:45
  Red Bull Ring. It is so good on this track. I
• 1:05:48
  think the biggest defining factor is the power
• 1:05:51
  unit, but also just Max is good on this track.
• 1:05:54
  They're both good on this track. When in doubt,
• 1:05:59
  just pick Max Verstappen. Can Yuki climb into
• 1:06:03
  points this race? Yeah, I think Yuki will get
• 1:06:06
  points. I would put Yuki no higher than ninth,
• 1:06:09
  but I think Yuki gets points this weekend. Fair
• 1:06:11
  enough. I'm just curious. And maybe Nico Hulkenberg
• 1:06:15
  in the points hole? I was going to say it, but
• 1:06:18
  I mean, hey. Probably not. Dude, if Hulkenberg
• 1:06:22
  wins a race this season, I will buy a sour shit.
• 1:06:26
  Wait, I'm sorry. If Nico Hulkenberg wins a race.
• 1:06:29
  We're going to win a race. Stakes are low. You
• 1:06:31
  got to do something. If Hulkenberg wins, I'm
• 1:06:34
  going to buy a shirt. Stakes are so low. Who
• 1:06:39
  else is buying a shirt at this table? Nobody.
• 1:06:41
  Me. You're going to buy one? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 1:06:45
  You got to get the whole suit. That's right.
• 1:06:47
  Get the whole set. Let's remember how crazy you
• 1:06:50
  are to say that. Nico Hulkenberg currently holds
• 1:06:52
  the record for most race finishes having never
• 1:06:55
  been on a podium. Hey, you never know. Okay,
• 1:06:58
  but race finishes is... Okay, I mean... Yeah,
• 1:07:00
  most race finishes for never having been on a
• 1:07:02
  podium. I don't know about you guys, but it sounds
• 1:07:04
  like I'm saving money on not buying a shirt then.
• 1:07:06
  I don't know what the argument is here. Anyway.
• 1:07:12
  Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. That's the show.
• 1:07:16
  That's the show. That is the show. Next week,
• 1:07:20
  we do have another one. Oh, we got back -to -back
• 1:07:23
  racing. Really? I thought there was a week between
• 1:07:25
  Austria and... There's a race next week. It's
• 1:07:28
  Britain after this. During July 4th weekend for
• 1:07:31
  the US. Oh, man. They are in... Oh, yeah, you're
• 1:07:36
  right. Yeah, there's a weekend between. So we...
• 1:07:38
  No, no, no. They race next weekend. Do they?
• 1:07:41
  It's July 6th. Oh, they do. Oh, well, you know
• 1:07:43
  what? I'm wrong about things sometimes. Ooh.
• 1:07:45
  Yeah. Sometimes. So, 9 a .m. race. Oh, man. And
• 1:07:49
  it's the 4th of July weekend. Sick. Oof. That's
• 1:07:53
  going to be a rough one to watch, but that's
• 1:07:55
  only 9 a .m. We'll be okay. We'll see. I just
• 1:07:58
  got to look up something really quick. I'm just
• 1:08:00
  curious. Yeah, so. Oh, yeah. I already have my
• 1:08:03
  podium figured out for Silverstone. What is it?
• 1:08:05
  I've got a pretty good idea of what I'm going
• 1:08:07
  to do as well. I think you guys can probably
• 1:08:08
  guess what I'm going to do. I need to wait and
• 1:08:10
  see. Ooh. He's picking all of the British drivers.
• 1:08:15
  Just straight down the line. Yep. You're not.
• 1:08:20
  i mean i'll just say you're not wrong it's gonna
• 1:08:22
  be lando lewis george it's gonna be lando george
• 1:08:26
  lewis probably whoa you're still gonna put i
• 1:08:28
  mean i i will not i think i think lewis could
• 1:08:31
  come back in his home race that would be so cool
• 1:08:34
  i think this is gonna be the first year we see
• 1:08:35
  a fully british podium at the british grand prix
• 1:08:38
  i would love to see that I really would. We're
• 1:08:41
  not going to. A full British program? Everyone's
• 1:08:43
  been around for a long time. We're not going
• 1:08:45
  to. We're not going to see it this next weekend.
• 1:08:47
  No, I agree. We're not going to. I don't think
• 1:08:48
  Lewis sniffs the podium. I would agree with that.
• 1:08:51
  I would agree with that, unfortunately. As good
• 1:08:54
  as his history is at that track, it's not going
• 1:08:58
  to happen. Okay, you're right. I've been wrong.
• 1:09:00
  I've been wrong. It's not I've been wrong. I
• 1:09:02
  am wrong. I've been wrong for a while. This track's
• 1:09:06
  been around for a while. Last year qualifying,
• 1:09:08
  we had George Russell lose Hamilton and Lando
• 1:09:10
  Norris. Oh, we did. But that was quali, obviously.
• 1:09:12
  It wasn't the race podium. Nah. Nah. Since 64.
• 1:09:18
  64 was the last time. It was a 1, 2, 3. It was
• 1:09:21
  a podium. Yep. It was Jim Clark, Graham Hill,
• 1:09:24
  and John Surtees. Oh, yeah. I know those guys.
• 1:09:27
  Yeah. Surtees? Surtees? Household names. I was
• 1:09:30
  hanging out with him. You were hanging out with
• 1:09:32
  John? Yeah. He was over yesterday. That was crazy.
• 1:09:35
  He's really old. Yeah, right? He was having a
• 1:09:41
  great time. Anyway, Joe. Mike, thanks for being
• 1:09:46
  here this week, buddy. Hey, I'm glad I was here.
• 1:09:48
  We talked about some stuff. Oh, by the way, Mike's
• 1:09:50
  co -host, by the way. I deserve that for my LP
• 1:09:53
  thing last week. Yeah, clearly, because Joe's
• 1:09:56
  our host, right? Yeah. Correct. Thank you for
• 1:10:00
  being here. No problem. No problem. Really appreciate
• 1:10:03
  you showing up for once. I know, for once. Just
• 1:10:06
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• 1:10:11
  things I should be doing and could be doing.
• 1:10:13
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• 1:10:16
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• 1:10:22
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