Latest / Simply Bitcoin / Michael Saylor Exposes His True Bitcoin End Game | EP 1103
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- 0:00Yo, welcome to Simply Bitcoin. Did Michael Saylor change his
- 0:04mind? Well, we're going to talk about
- 0:06that today. There is a viral video that went
- 0:09around where Michael Saylor joined a great content creator.
- 0:13Her name is Madison Reidy, and she asked him a question
- 0:17regarding the dangers, the potential dangers of the
- 0:22centralization of the custody of Bitcoin.
- 0:25And what's really interesting to me is the change in answers and
- 0:29we have all the receipts for you guys.
- 0:31So we have the clip lined up, we're going to play it and then
- 0:33we're going to talk about it. Let's check it out.
- 0:34Here we go for Bitcoin, bitcoins held with these third party
- 0:41custodians. What risk does that pose having
- 0:44greater supply held by fewer large institutions?
- 0:50Does that increase the risk of seizure and confiscation like
- 0:53we've seen with gold? And is that not exactly what
- 0:56Bitcoiners don't want to happen? No, I think it's the opposite.
- 0:59I think that when the Bitcoin is held by a bunch of crypto
- 1:04anarchists who aren't regulated entities, who don't acknowledge
- 1:09government or don't acknowledge taxes or don't acknowledge
- 1:12reporting requirements, that increases the risk of seizure.
- 1:16You have An OG crypto community is very hardcore about it, but
- 1:20if you look at where all the money is, 99.9% of the money is
- 1:25actually in the traditional economy.
- 1:27If you consider the Great Depression, I mean, people
- 1:29thought that their gold was safe and banks until the executive
- 1:32order of 1933. So we're not entirely safe.
- 1:34I mean, I know that's kind of a wild thing to suggest may happen
- 1:37again, but history does repeat itself.
- 1:39So it was Bitcoin wouldn't be entirely safe.
- 1:41People say that, but mostly it's mostly it's paranoid crypto
- 1:45anarchists that say that. OK, because it's it's a it's a
- 1:49myth and a trope that goes on over and over again.
- 1:53But first of all, he didn't really seize the goal.
- 1:55People voluntarily turned in the goal.
- 1:57They didn't go and kick in everybody's door, arrest them,
- 2:00shoot them and take their goal. That never happened.
- 2:03Is the United States on the Bitcoin standard?
- 2:05Maybe we will be. Soon, but the point, but the
- 2:07point really is we're not right. It's totally not a reasonable
- 2:11comparison. You know, people have these
- 2:13inflammatory, you know, tropes or inflammatory memes that they
- 2:18they use. And it's like, I say that
- 2:20because I want you to give me your money, OK?
- 2:23Like I want if if you don't trust the bank, then you'll buy
- 2:29my hardware wallet. If you don't trust this
- 2:32government, you'll move to my country and you'll buy a
- 2:34passport from me. That's the kind of fear
- 2:37mongering to get you to give me your money, right?
- 2:41And I use it to sell you a gun, to sell you a hardware wallet,
- 2:45to sell you an account, to sell you a financial advisor, to sell
- 2:49you an insurance policy, to sell you a, you know, fill in the
- 2:52blank. OK, All right.
- 2:55So you know, first of all, I want to say this about Sailor.
- 2:59I'm a huge Sailor fan. I think he's contributed so much
- 3:02to the industry, but it's a little interesting because he
- 3:06was actually saying, and this particular topic, he was
- 3:10actually saying something very different on the Patrick Bette
- 3:14Davis podcast. Let's check it out.
- 3:16Churchill seized the gold. Roosevelt seized the gold.
- 3:19If you'd lived in Germany, you would have had your gold seized
- 3:21multiple times. In Japan, they lost it two or
- 3:23three times. And Russia, you know, count the
- 3:26number of times. So there's nowhere on earth
- 3:28where you could have kept your your gold, Churchill seized.
- 3:32I mean, that's in stark contrast to what he's saying, right?
- 3:37He was saying like, oh, like, you know, these are paranoid
- 3:41bitcoiners. Here's a a video of him about,
- 3:45you know, a couple years ago. He's talking about self custody.
- 3:49Very, very different perspective.
- 3:50Let's check it out. Well, if something you can own
- 3:52$100 million of, where you can take personal custody of it and
- 3:57where you can actually move it anywhere on earth, and where
- 4:00even if I hold a gun to your head, I can't take it from you.
- 4:03And the only thing we've ever figured out that you can do that
- 4:06with is Bitcoin. And so Bitcoin is like it.
- 4:10It keeps everybody honest. The optionality to do this means
- 4:15that all you got to do is find one bank in Singapore that'll
- 4:18treat you better than the bank in New York or London or Tokyo.
- 4:21And then you can move it in 1/2 an hour for 5 bucks.
- 4:24And what happens next? The bank in New York thinks,
- 4:27well, I guess we can't screw these guys over because in
- 4:29they'll just move to Singapore. And the guys in California say,
- 4:33well, I can't, I can't just tax all the Bitcoin in California.
- 4:36It'll move to Wyoming, it'll move to Singapore, it'll move to
- 4:39Malta. And at the end of the day, you
- 4:41can tell everybody to go fuck themselves.
- 4:43You can put it in your head, memorize the freaking key,
- 4:46right? And it's here.
- 4:48And then, you know, the classic Bitcoiner response is, Oh yeah,
- 4:51my Bitcoin. I lost it in a boating accident.
- 4:55You ever heard that phrase? It's it's kind of a trope.
- 4:58But what it means is at the end of the day, if you push me too
- 5:02far, I lost it, it's gone. Sorry, tax that.
- 5:08So again, radically, radically different perspectives here.
- 5:16I I radically different, radically different.
- 5:20He's bringing up examples of gold seizures in the past.
- 5:25He's bringing up the power of self custody.
- 5:30And then he goes on this recent podcast and he's downplaying the
- 5:35importance of self custody. He's basically making the case
- 5:37that only paranoid bitcoiners should want self custody.
- 5:43Now a lot of people have a lot of people have, you know,
- 5:50thoughts about this and I, I want to get them before I share
- 5:53my thoughts about this recent Sailor podcast.
- 5:57Here's Max Keiser. Max Keiser's a legend.
- 6:00My road map for Bitcoin differs from sailor.
- 6:03I believe money existed before the state.
- 6:06Bitcoin separates money from state.
- 6:09Bitcoin ends the state. Sailor's Road Map is very
- 6:13provincial, US centered and reactionary.
- 6:16It fails to consider the imminent and much needed
- 6:19collapse of central banking and Fiat money and El Salvador.
- 6:23We are not so naive. We understand a Bitcoin
- 6:26renaissance is upon us and El Salvador is leading the way.
- 6:30Sailors trying to fix an irreparable and more immoral
- 6:34broken system. We are building a new system, a
- 6:38new economy on top of that, on top of Bitcoin.
- 6:41Come here and you'll see what I mean.
- 6:44Here is Jameson law Bitcoin self custody isn't just about being a
- 6:50paranoid mountain man. There are many long term
- 6:53negative ramifications to convincing people to trust third
- 6:56parties. One, centralizing coins into a
- 6:59few hands increases systemic risk of loss and seizure. 2
- 7:04Bitcoin get disenfranchised from participating in governments,
- 7:09the governance activities like running nodes or trading forks.
- 7:123 Ossification arguments are strengthened because
- 7:16institutions don't care about more advanced cryptographic
- 7:20features. 4 Permissionless scaling gets de prioritized
- 7:24because we can just scale via trusted third party IO.
- 7:28US self custody is not merely important to individual Bitcoin
- 7:32holders, it's important to the continued strengthening and
- 7:36improvement of the entire network.
- 7:40Moving on, Jameson Lomp once again says the folks who are
- 7:43focused on Triadfi adoption of Bitcoin don't care about
- 7:47improving the protocol and scaling the network because they
- 7:50don't care about self custody. The next battle for the future
- 7:53of Bitcoin is brewing. Completely agree.
- 7:57Anyways here is NVK he says the problem that sailor and the
- 8:02content creator whose clip we posted her name again is Madison
- 8:06Righty. You can find the entire
- 8:09interview on her YouTube channel so go definitely check it out.
- 8:12Missed here is not 61O2. He is correct on that the issue
- 8:16is large large holder choosing which fork to follow.
- 8:20Say Coinbase held 25% of the supply and decided to follow a
- 8:2520 gigabyte block fork. That would pose a huge problem,
- 8:29could make strategy go to zero in a way that Triadfi's shorter
- 8:32or government's capture never could.
- 8:36Here's Jack Mahler's reacting to all this.
- 8:39Calling self custody crypto anarchism oversimplifies what
- 8:43Bitcoin accomplishes. It's about freedom, freedom of
- 8:47speech, property rights, and protecting your right to own
- 8:51what's yours. We must not dismiss it because
- 8:54freedom isn't promised. It must be fight for, fought
- 8:58for, and protected. As I said at the end of the
- 9:01clip, I love Sailor. He's a friend.
- 9:03This is the only free market in the world.
- 9:05Being free. In any free market, especially
- 9:08something as revolutionary as Bitcoin, people are going to
- 9:11have different views. That's not just normal, it's
- 9:14necessary. It's all love for me.
- 9:17My goal is simply to defend the principles that I believe make
- 9:20Bitcoin powerful. Freedom and the ability for
- 9:23anyone to engage with it however they see fit.
- 9:28And I echo what Jack Mahler says.
- 9:30I'm a huge fan of Michael Saylor and forever grateful for what
- 9:33he's done for our movement and for the Bitcoin movement
- 9:36overall. I think he's fundamentally wrong
- 9:39on self custody though. I think self custody is the
- 9:43revolution. Self custody is what is going to
- 9:46fundamentally, radically change the world into a much better
- 9:50world. A a world where everyone has the
- 9:54opportunity to get ahead. If history has shown time and
- 9:59time again if the state and if the government has the ability
- 10:04to confiscate everyone's wealth in order to bail themselves out,
- 10:08they will do it. Do you think that six months or
- 10:12a year before the 6102 order in a country like the United States
- 10:16with the constitutional protections that it has, do you
- 10:19think people envisioned that here?
- 10:22No, there is a bunch of lawsuits after it happened, specifically
- 10:27citing the Constitution. And remember, when FDR did this,
- 10:31he initially did it with an executive order.
- 10:35The, the legislation through Congress came after the fact.
- 10:39And again, at that time, the Democrats had a super majority
- 10:44in Congress and also the Supreme Court.
- 10:47So like, again, it, it, you know, you can say that you can
- 10:51make a very strong argument that FDR was as close as the US would
- 10:56ever get to a, a, a, a dictator of some sorts.
- 11:00He was one of the only American presidents that ran for three
- 11:03terms, even though that, you know, they they made that part
- 11:08of the they ratified that into an amendment after the fact.
- 11:11But, you know, it was like long standing culture in American
- 11:17history since George Washington that presidents would only run
- 11:21for two terms because the United States didn't want to have a
- 11:24king, right. So again, you know, it was
- 11:29different times. There was the Great Depression
- 11:31that happened, right? You know, the world wars were
- 11:33mixed in there as well. But it it, it, it, you know, it
- 11:38not learning from the past and expecting things not to repeat
- 11:44in a way, maybe it doesn't repeat exactly.
- 11:46But rhyming, I think is a bit naive.
- 11:50So I'm sticking to what we advocate for on simply Bitcoin,
- 11:56spot Bitcoin and put that Bitcoin into self custody in
- 11:59your cold storage Bitcoin wallet.
- 12:02Even if you're an institution or a company, do it.
- 12:06Do it. Don't trust a third party,
- 12:10especially now that we have a technology where you don't have
- 12:14to anymore. With gold, you needed to.
- 12:17With stocks, you needed to. With Bitcoin, you don't need to.
- 12:22So I understand why he's saying that.
- 12:26I get why he's saying that. No one is better than their
- 12:29incentives, and I understand Michael Saylor's incentives.
- 12:33However, I disagree with him and what Jack Mahler says.
- 12:37It comes from a place of love. This is a free market.
- 12:41Everyone has different opinions, but make no mistake, self
- 12:45custody is the revolution. Self custody is what is going to
- 12:49free you. And self custody isn't just for
- 12:53a paranoid few self custody. I believe that if enough of the
- 12:57world population takes their wealth into self custody, it
- 13:01will dramatically change the world for the better.
- 13:05Anyways, that's my two sats. Opti, what's your take on this?
- 13:09It was a bit surprising. I'm not going to lie.
- 13:12When I when I initially heard that, I was a little bit
- 13:14disappointed. But at the same time, I get
- 13:17where sailors coming from sailors trying to sell his
- 13:20stock, right? Sailor is trying to get people
- 13:24to buy the ETFSI understand that that's traditional finance.
- 13:30But at the same time, like there's nothing like spot
- 13:34Bitcoin and cold storage. You can't replace that, right?
- 13:38So Opti, what's your take? Yeah.
- 13:40Well, obviously, fundamentally, just on the surface, I do
- 13:44disagree. I mean, I, I would when that
- 13:47when this news came out, I, I pretty much just tweeted like
- 13:49only the paranoid survive, obviously kind of trolling it.
- 13:51And I think it's important to be paranoid and get your keep your
- 13:54head on a swivel. But like, if you just kind of
- 13:58take his words and you kind of realize the game he's playing
- 14:02now, Saylor does have a huge target on his back.
- 14:05We know that some of his comments and podcasts were used
- 14:08against him in court. And so this is probably why he's
- 14:11trying to shift his rhetoric a little bit and play the game a
- 14:14little differently than us, you know, average retail everyday
- 14:17bitcoiners that don't have billions of dollars in the
- 14:19system. But when you really kind of
- 14:21think about what he said in that clip in particular, I think he
- 14:24does kind of have a point. And this is not saying like self
- 14:27custody is bad. I mean, he didn't really even
- 14:29say that in particular, but what he said is essentially like all
- 14:33the money coming from Tradfi isn't going to go into self
- 14:36custody. And I think anyone that isn't
- 14:38Naive knows that that's the case.
- 14:39These billionaires out here or even, you know, wealthy people,
- 14:42they don't like to hold their assets.
- 14:44And of course, they want some trusted third parties, though us
- 14:47Bitcoiners do always reference the classic article by Nick Zabo
- 14:51of, you know, trusted third parties are security holes.
- 14:54And so This is why we are so skeptical and hear things like
- 14:57this, especially coming someone that is as big as sailor saying
- 15:01like, oh, you don't need to take Bitcoin into self custody.
- 15:04That makes you a, you know, paranoid crypto anarchist or, or
- 15:07whatever the phrasing was. And so obviously here I
- 15:12completely disagree. I think it's very important that
- 15:14people do take Bitcoin into custody.
- 15:16I think that is probably the most important aspect of this is
- 15:19that people hold their own Bitcoin because we know like
- 15:23what was that lop, that lop quote?
- 15:24We were saying like the biggest threat necessarily is not just a
- 15:28six one O 2 order. It's more that Bitcoin does get
- 15:31centralized. And we know, especially since
- 15:33we've been covering choke .2 point O the whole year that if
- 15:36they can centralized the money, then it makes it that much
- 15:39easier for them to cut off the on and off ramps of Bitcoin.
- 15:43And I think this is kind of the battle that we've been seeing
- 15:46and we're seeing play out in real time is that now, you know,
- 15:50politics and Wall Street is on our door and they are doing, I
- 15:55mean, not necessarily saying that sailor is a part of this,
- 15:57but there is a concerted effort to kind of centralized Bitcoin
- 16:02and make it not become the digital money or digital
- 16:05currency that we all believe, believe it will be, especially
- 16:07with the rhetoric of, oh, it's just a digital asset.
- 16:10It's just a store of value, whereas we fundamentally think
- 16:13it's different. We think it's the best money in
- 16:15the world because it's permissionless, because it's
- 16:17censorship resistant and because you can take it into custody.
- 16:21And so, you know, on those fronts, obviously, I think self
- 16:24custody is super important. But talking on the six 102 part,
- 16:29I did see a really good note from Lynn Alden and I and I want
- 16:31to pull it up right now. So reading kind of what Lynn
- 16:35Alden said, she's going here. This is again on primal.
- 16:38She goes one-on-one on how gold was confiscated.
- 16:40You had to turn it in for dollars by a deadline prior to
- 16:43dollar devaluation. And there were massive prison
- 16:46consequences for not turning it in, but little resources in term
- 16:49of investigating who didn't turn it in.
- 16:51That would be expensive. So it was fear based, focusing
- 16:54on illegality and tail risk on edge cases more than enforcement
- 16:58on average. Institutions had to comply
- 17:01immediately, which is interesting considering what he
- 17:03said in that clip since it's all visible.
- 17:05So the government broke liquidity in the domestic gold
- 17:07market, which was enough for their purposes.
- 17:09Gold became a hard to trade illegal illegal relic for those
- 17:13that held it. If a small family huddled some
- 17:15extra bars for 40 years until it became legal again, then they
- 17:18did OK. But can the government track
- 17:20Bitcoin in the twenty 20s better or worse than gold in 1930s for
- 17:24enforcement purposes? That's the right question.
- 17:26And don't just think of confiscation, think of 70%
- 17:29selective taxes and things like that.
- 17:31Far more within the current rule law.
- 17:33That's the sophisticated approach.
- 17:35Don't take it selectively tax it by a lot.
- 17:38Those are the politics to push against from a Bitcoin
- 17:40perspective. And we've been seeing this kind
- 17:42of narrative also get pushed recently, of course, in Italy
- 17:45about the, you know, raising the capital gains tax on Bitcoin.
- 17:49And you know, even Elizabeth Warren with the anti crypto army
- 17:54that she was building and some of the rhetoric that she was
- 17:56saying. And of course, let's not forget.
- 17:58Is it a coincidence that right after the ECB articles or
- 18:02reports were dropped up that we get this clip?
- 18:04So kind of backtracking on some of those those comments that
- 18:07sailors made in the past. And then of course, a lot of the
- 18:11more cynical bit corners on Twitter are saying like he used
- 18:14the plebs and the Bitcoin rhetoric to build a huge
- 18:17platform and now he's kind of rolling it back.
- 18:19Of course, we've constantly seen from Sailor that he is for
- 18:24better or worse a dollar maxi. He thinks that the dollar and
- 18:27Bitcoin will survive together. A lot of his Bitcoiners kind of
- 18:30have a different take that Bitcoin will win eventually and
- 18:33all roads lead to Bitcoin. So it is a very interesting and
- 18:37kind of like head scratching take here and of course not
- 18:42trying to mind read here 'cause I don't really know what's going
- 18:44on in Sailor's mind here. It does seem like he is trying
- 18:48to protect his neck now that there is, you know, the forces
- 18:51that be kind of attacking Bitcoin.
- 18:53What do you got here? Dude, not your keys, not your
- 18:55coins, yeah. Exactly, and also also let's not
- 19:00forget that he is also working towards building a Bitcoin bank.
- 19:04So this is, you know what this is guys?
- 19:07It's it. Look, the Elon was super pro
- 19:11Bitcoin and Tesla was accepting Bitcoin on their website and
- 19:15then all of a sudden Elon did a 180 and he never brought up
- 19:18Bitcoin again. So I think that if you have a
- 19:22public company in the United States and you are prone to
- 19:27government regulatory pressure, I think in a way you have
- 19:34tremendous amount of pressure not to talk about something that
- 19:39could potentially threaten the US dollar and specifically US
- 19:45sanction policy. That's my two sides.
- 19:48I think this is what's going on here and this is what I was
- 19:52talking about with when it comes down to incentives and no one's
- 19:56better than their incentives. I think, I think Sailor knows
- 20:01the benefits of self custody, but now his incentives aren't
- 20:06aren't necessarily aligned with saying listen, you should take
- 20:11self custody. Because again, you know, it's,
- 20:14it's someone saying in the comment, MicroStrategy is very
- 20:17Wall Street dependent. Something to keep in mind,
- 20:19right? So again, I don't blame him.
- 20:22This is a free market. Everyone is entitled to their
- 20:24opinions. I personally love Saylor, love
- 20:27what he's done. I've I've had.
- 20:29Great interactions with him and experiences with him in person.
- 20:33So, you know, I'm not trying to, you know, shit on, on his
- 20:38opinion or anything. Everyone's entitled to it.
- 20:40And that's what makes Bitcoin beautiful, right?
- 20:43Everyone has different approaches to it, after all.
- 20:46So anyways, guys, let's jump in straight into the show.
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- 23:51At the time of recording, the Bitcoin price is $65,890.00 sats
- 23:59per Dollar 1518 Block height 867,029 Realized monetary
- 24:07inflation 1.28% market cap 1.3 Trillion Bitcoin versus Gold
- 24:14market cap 6.79% money supply 19,771,749 BTC percentage issued
- 24:2794.15%. In the grand scheme of things,
- 24:32things are just getting started. Anyways, interesting observation
- 24:37from Alex Thorn. Alex Thorn is the head of
- 24:40research at Galaxy. Let's check it out.
- 24:43When you adjust for inflation, the Bitcoin bull market hasn't
- 24:47even started yet. That's a really good point.
- 24:50Here is the data itself November 21st Bitcoin all time high it's
- 24:56at 6767 thousand 734 but if you adjust for inflation the March
- 25:032024 BTC all time high is 73 is was which was 73,157.
- 25:13But if you adjust for inflation it's actually $60,738 in terms
- 25:18of purchasing power. What about the the October 21st
- 25:242024 BTC? The nominal was 67,419.
- 25:30If you adjust for inflation, that's actually the equivalent
- 25:33of 55,325 worth of purchasing power.
- 25:38And again BTCTUSD to break prior all time high, it would actually
- 25:44require a $77,000 all time high to break the previous all time
- 25:51high if you adjust for inflation.
- 25:53So a little it's quite interesting and it, it just
- 25:57shows you the, the loss of purchasing power.
- 26:00Anyways, I have a clip for you guys of, of potentially the
- 26:03future president of the United States.
- 26:05Here's Donald Trump. And here he is saying that he
- 26:10would put 100% tariffs on countries abandoning the US
- 26:14dollar as a world reserve currency.
- 26:16Let's check it out. If a country tells me, Sarah, we
- 26:19like you very much, but we're going to no longer adhere to
- 26:22being in the reserve currency. We're not going to salute the
- 26:25dollar anymore. I'll say that's OK.
- 26:28And you're going to pay a 100% tariff on everything you sell
- 26:31into the United States. And we love your product.
- 26:34I hope you sell a lot of it into the United States, but you're
- 26:36going to pay 100% tariff. He will then follow it up by
- 26:39saying, Sir, it would be an honor to stay with the reserve
- 26:42currency. I will be.
- 26:43That will be like just playing. That's not even chess.
- 26:45That's checkers. But you don't have other listen
- 26:48to this. You don't.
- 26:49You don't have other people that can talk that way.
- 26:51If so, again, like it, it's it. That's quite strange to me,
- 26:56right? It it and the reason it's quite
- 26:59strange to me and kind of connecting this with it, kind of
- 27:04connecting this with, with, with, with, with Michael Saylor
- 27:10in his bit. Look, guys, you know, the US
- 27:14government gets a tremendous amount of, of raw power being
- 27:20able to issue its own money. So if you are the CEO of a
- 27:25publicly traded company, you can't come out and be against
- 27:29the dollar. You can't do that.
- 27:32You can't do that, right? Like look at that, that and
- 27:35again, this is someone who is pro Bitcoin, pro crypto, right?
- 27:40And look, and he's basically saying like, look, if a country
- 27:44drops the dollar as a world reserve currency, I'm basically
- 27:47going to punish them with tariffs and taxes.
- 27:51So it just shows you how protective he is.
- 27:55And the question that I have for you guys is like it it, you
- 28:00know, is the dollar really benefiting you?
- 28:04Like, and again, like this is like a very tough, I love
- 28:09America and I know that Opti does too.
- 28:10I'm a first generation, first generation American.
- 28:14So is Opti and I believe in the idea of America.
- 28:18But like Ron Paul said yesterday, you can love America
- 28:25and not be a dollar maxi like the the Federal Reserve
- 28:29Frankenstein the dollar, right? You know, Fiat money.
- 28:36Those things don't equate and don't let them manipulate you
- 28:39into thinking that you hate your country because you dislike
- 28:45Fiat. Both things can be true is what
- 28:50I'm trying to tell you. So I'm going to leave it at that
- 28:53and I'm going to pass it on to Opti.
- 28:56I mean, Opti, it's, it's it it again, it's, it's, it's
- 29:02troubling, right? It's troubling, like, and then
- 29:05it kind of explains a little bit of where sailors coming from,
- 29:10right? Yeah, 100% and someone just hit
- 29:14me to this in the chat, so I'm going to pull it up before I
- 29:18give my thoughts on this. Sailor just tweeted about
- 29:21supporting self custody, so let's read this for the audio
- 29:23listeners. It's a Sailor on Twitter
- 29:25literally a minute ago. I support self custody for those
- 29:29willing and able, the right to self custody for all and freedom
- 29:32to choose the form of custody and custodian for individuals
- 29:35and institutions globally. Bitcoin benefits from all forms
- 29:38of investment by all types of entities and should welcome
- 29:41everyone, which I think it's kind of what Nico and I were
- 29:44saying. So I'm glad we got a
- 29:46clarification on this literally as maybe he's listening maybe.
- 29:52OK, first of all, I do want to kind of talk on the Bitcoin
- 29:58hasn't hit all time high if you adjust for inflation.
- 30:01I think, you know, again, without having that data, I
- 30:05think a lot of us kind of feel that same sentiment right now in
- 30:08regards to the Bitcoin price. I know we're all kind of bored
- 30:11right now and we're like, man, we're literally the meme like
- 30:13poking Bitcoin, can you do something?
- 30:14This is boring. It's been such a long bear
- 30:16market. And I think when you look at the
- 30:19numbers, not only is a sentiment like that, of course, you know,
- 30:22we just brought the numbers to you, but now we have the the
- 30:26numbers to back it up that if you adjust for inflation,
- 30:28Bitcoin hasn't hit an all time high.
- 30:30And one thing I noticed yesterday is like, there's so
- 30:33many bullish indicators of where we are in Bitcoin, and yet no
- 30:38one is paying attention to Bitcoin right now, which I think
- 30:40is such a bullish like development happening right now
- 30:44that once Bitcoin does break out of this all time high range.
- 30:47What was the number there, Nico? I think it's 73.
- 30:49Is 77. 77 so OK, now the new number I've been kind of looking
- 30:54at like once we actually break all time high on the chart,
- 30:57which was around like what 71 ish 73 K, depending on how much
- 31:01shorting is going on up there. Now we have that range from like
- 31:05you know 71 to 77 K that once we actually break out of that
- 31:08range, then we can all really kind of get excited and and
- 31:12start to start to really claim that the bull run is here and
- 31:16the bears have no control over Bitcoin.
- 31:18So now we got some new some new numbers to kind of go check.
- 31:22So hey, draw your lines at 77 K. Now I know it's kind of floating
- 31:26in mid in mid air if you are doing your TA charting.
- 31:30But now, now we have an idea of what the all time high was when
- 31:33you adjust for inflation. So love to see it.
- 31:35The second part is that Trump clip.
- 31:37I have been referencing this clip for a minute and I think
- 31:41this is the growing trend. Obviously we've been talking.
- 31:43Yesterday we played the clip of Paul Tudor Jones basically
- 31:46saying like, I'm not going to hold bond, I'm holding, you
- 31:49know, hard money. I'm holding gold and Bitcoin and
- 31:53no fixed income investment. Maybe the NASDAQ, if I have some
- 31:57cash, it's going to be for short term, you know, like bills or
- 32:00whatever. And I think that's the growing
- 32:03trend that we've noticed this year.
- 32:05Is that what we've covered here on the show for a long time?
- 32:07The dollar has been weaponized and people are looking for
- 32:11alternatives. The dollar has been used as a
- 32:14way to control people and I think this is just kind of the
- 32:20the laid out playbook for what happens when you have a world
- 32:23reserve currencies. Obviously part of the Elizabeth
- 32:26Warren anti crypto army attack was essentially the same thing.
- 32:31It's to keep people in the dollar.
- 32:32We know that the politicians and the bankers out there want to
- 32:36ensure that you don't find the escape route referencing what's
- 32:40the Christina Lagarde's. We don't want people going to
- 32:43the exit route because we all know that now with digital
- 32:47money, with everything on a digital Ledger, bank runs can
- 32:50happen very quickly. And if you're looking at all the
- 32:53stuff going on in macro land like it seems, of course, I
- 32:56don't want to be a dollar doomer here because I think they can
- 32:59kick the can down the road for a lot longer than we expect.
- 33:02But the Tratify system globally, not just in the US, but globally
- 33:07at large, is on a very, very, very precarious ledge right now.
- 33:12It's becoming very obvious that something might be happening,
- 33:16something might be brewing. Can the Fed control the markets?
- 33:19I just saw a tweet by the Kobayashi letter asking, or
- 33:23rather giving the question of, did the Fed break the markets
- 33:27right now because of that 50 basis rate cut?
- 33:30And now, you know, things aren't going according to plan.
- 33:34And so obviously we're seeing a trend that people are looking to
- 33:37drop U.S. debt, they're looking to drop U.S.
- 33:40Treasury and people are finding alternatives.
- 33:43And I did see a clip this morning go around Twitter about
- 33:46Putin basically saying the same thing that the US dollar has
- 33:49been weaponized and it wasn't them that wanted to get off the
- 33:52dollar. They were forced off the dollar
- 33:54and hence why they're looking for alternatives.
- 33:56So this trend has been happening all year long.
- 33:59Again, I think there is a lot of tricks up the US government, you
- 34:03know, world reserve currency status sleeve to control people
- 34:07using the dollar. Obviously, all of what Trump was
- 34:11saying, we're seeing that they're doing very similar stuff
- 34:14in regards to Bitcoin, whether it's capital gains or
- 34:16regulations or choke .2 point O of trying to control capital
- 34:22from flowing into Bitcoin. And you know, like, like you
- 34:26were saying, I, I think this is kind of the trend we're seeing
- 34:29even with Sailor coming out and saying the same thing.
- 34:31It's like, look, institutional capital is having a hard time
- 34:34find its way into Bitcoin. And he just clarified that,
- 34:37yeah, I believe in self custody, but I also believe that if
- 34:41Bitcoin is going to go where we think it's going to go, then
- 34:44there will need to be some good custodians out there.
- 34:47You know how Finney even said it what, like a week after Bitcoin
- 34:50was was released that in the future there will be Bitcoin
- 34:53banks. And I know a lot of Bitcoiners
- 34:55are like, oh, banks are going away and banks are never going
- 34:58to happen. And, you know, they're, they're
- 35:00on a, a time limit. But I kind of disagree with
- 35:04that. I think there will always be
- 35:05banks. I think there will always be
- 35:06need for banks. But as we are clarifying, I
- 35:10think it's very important that we do kind of ensure that self
- 35:13custody does happen and people are able to take self custody.
- 35:16But the growing trend's the same.
- 35:18People are wanting to drop the US dollar because it has been
- 35:21weaponized and people are tired of losing their purchasing
- 35:24power. And that's the game we're at
- 35:25right now. They have to continue to print
- 35:27money to ensure that the dollar looks strong to people and that
- 35:31they're incentivized to use the dollar.
- 35:33But now we have many options. You can go into your local
- 35:36currency if you want, but we obviously will argue that the
- 35:40best bet is to go into Bitcoin. And that's why we think Bitcoin
- 35:43is going to win, and that's why we think everyone should be
- 35:46holding some Bitcoin. Amen to that all right
- 35:48everybody, let's get to the news.
- 35:50We have a lot to talk about today.
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- 36:12And also shout out to Sailor for clarifying, coming out and
- 36:15clarifying his stance on and self custody.
- 36:19Again, I love, love this is a free market and love everything
- 36:24that Sailor has done for the movement.
- 36:26Personally, I'm a Sailor fan, but again, incentives are
- 36:30incentives, ladies and gentlemen, and what Jack Mahler
- 36:33said, you know, this comes from a place of love.
- 36:35Anyways, everybody, let's speech, let's get to the news.
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- 39:07though, even though we were did ask, someone did ask anyways, so
- 39:13this is what I want to talk about today.
- 39:16We we kind of ended yesterday's show regarding this topic and I
- 39:20just wanted to add a little bit to it.
- 39:22Bitcoin is the what do we want as Bitcoiners?
- 39:26We want the separation of money and state, right?
- 39:28We believe that's going to make the world a better place.
- 39:30By definition, the separation of money and state is highly
- 39:33political. And what's going to happen,
- 39:36inevitably going to happen, is Bitcoin.
- 39:40The Bitcoin industry and Bitcoiners are going to become
- 39:44part of the donor class in DC and that's exactly what is
- 39:50happening. I just want to read the headline
- 39:52of this article. A wave of crypto friendly
- 39:55lawmakers is about to crash Congress.
- 39:58Brace yourself for the crypto Congress. $160 million political
- 40:03spending spree by cryptocurrency firms and executives is poised
- 40:07to usher in a new bipartisan army of industry friendly
- 40:12lawmakers across the House and Senate.
- 40:15Who are they? As many as 13 new pro crypto
- 40:19candidates could ascend to seats in the House next year with
- 40:22backing from the industry's network of super PACs, which
- 40:26have spent big to promote allies and block critics and races
- 40:29across the country. The potential House members
- 40:32range from progressive Democrats who tout digital assets as a
- 40:36tool for financial inclusion, to Republicans who bashed the Biden
- 40:40administration's crypto policy and say the technology can,
- 40:43quote, create an economic freedom.
- 40:46The Senate is expected to gain several pro crypto members,
- 40:50including Representatives Adam Schiff and John Curtis, who are
- 40:54all but guaranteed to win races in their respective states.
- 40:58Republicans in nearly every key battleground state contest are
- 41:03crypto proponents, meaning that any seats the GOP flips will
- 41:07deliver a new ally. Regardless of who wins the
- 41:10presidency, the result of the 2024 election is likely to be
- 41:15the most pro crypto Congress ever and one that could deliver
- 41:19the industry's long held lobbying priority of removing
- 41:22regulatory roadblocks. It's a stunning rise with crypto
- 41:26products being used by only a fraction of the US population.
- 41:30But executives willingness to dump money into the political
- 41:34system from their company's bank accounts and their own has
- 41:37helped make politicians pay outsize attention to their
- 41:40'cause that is not true. The last 3 1/2 years, the Biden
- 41:46administration has metaphorically attacked the
- 41:50industry with A2 by 4A3 by 4 and that is what has caused this
- 41:57reaction by industry executives and people that are part of the
- 42:02industry to react to it. This was a response to the
- 42:07attack. This was not.
- 42:08This just didn't come out of nowhere.
- 42:11This is, this came out because of Elizabeth Warren, because of
- 42:14the current administration. That's why Trump is mentioning
- 42:18he's going to protect the right to self custody.
- 42:21That would have never have happened in a million years if
- 42:24there wasn't an incentive for that to happen in the 1st place.
- 42:29They created that incentives when they attacked the industry.
- 42:33And ladies and gentlemen, This is why we're going to win.
- 42:36This is a bottom up movement that involves all political
- 42:41parties and our movement has better incentives.
- 42:47So you're going to see the continuation of this and what is
- 42:51the House of Representatives, but not representing the
- 42:56interest of the American people. So I disagree with you,
- 43:00Politico. I've been paying attention to
- 43:03what has been happening the last 3 1/2 years and we've been
- 43:06getting attacked, which is why you're seeing this immune system
- 43:10response of cyber Hornets sticking up for the Bitcoin
- 43:15industry. It goes on to say, quote, when
- 43:18it comes to new players on the scene, there has not been
- 43:21something to just expose like this, to go from an industry
- 43:25that spent very little to being arguably the biggest spender of
- 43:28the election cycle, said John Lebowitz, vice president for
- 43:32communications at the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in
- 43:36Washington, an ethics watchdog that tracks campaign finance
- 43:39issues. Here's a look at the crypto
- 43:41industry's likely class of 2025 and how much it's super PAC has
- 43:46spent to support preferred candidates.
- 43:49Excuse me. So for the Democrats, they've
- 43:54spent $31.5 million. Crypto has flexed its influence
- 43:59in more than four dozen House races this year.
- 44:03The crypto super PAC Protects Progress, has spent 2.6 million
- 44:08boosting figures who won a crowded Democratic primary in
- 44:12March and now hopes to represent a redrawn district around
- 44:16Montgomery, AL. All right, you guys get the
- 44:19general gist of this. And what I got to say about this
- 44:23is, yeah, good riddance. Isn't it nice to get a taste of
- 44:26your own medicine? Isn't it nice?
- 44:28Isn't it nice? We are now part of the donor
- 44:32class baby and we're in DC and we want our, we want our, our,
- 44:39we want our industry protected. We want what we want.
- 44:43We want our we want, you know, our future secured.
- 44:49We don't want our future attacked.
- 44:51And that sucks that it contradicts, you know, certain
- 44:57policies of the current administration.
- 45:00They always talk about democracy.
- 45:02Bouyakasha, here's a taste of democracy for you.
- 45:05And it's coming in hot. And we got a lot of Bitcoiners
- 45:09that are back in this. Yeah, exactly.
- 45:11Someone in the IT just reminds me of the of the, of the of the
- 45:15meme from that movie of the Somalian pirates, Tom Hanks and
- 45:19whatever. It's like we are the captain
- 45:21now. And it's going to continue.
- 45:24Our our industry is just going to continue to get bigger.
- 45:27As it gets bigger, our lobbying effort will continue to get
- 45:30bigger. Our donor class will continue to
- 45:33get bigger. And at the end of the day, you
- 45:36know, Washington, DC politics is controlled by the donor base.
- 45:40We are now part of the donor base, baby.
- 45:42And that's not going away. Like welcome to democracy.
- 45:46Like, I don't know what else to tell you.
- 45:48You know, so, and again, we didn't ask for this.
- 45:53I I think that Bitcoiners and inherently anyone that's part of
- 45:56the Bitcoin and crypto industry inherently distrusts the
- 46:01political system because of how connected it is with the Fiat
- 46:05money system. But I think that if you attack
- 46:09us for 3 1/2 years, if you try to kill our industry the way
- 46:14that Elizabeth Warren tried to kill our industry, this is the
- 46:18end result. Like we fight back, we bite back
- 46:22that like it's, it's like, did you expect us to roll over and
- 46:26say, hey, you know what? You guys are right?
- 46:29We're just going to go away, forget about it.
- 46:32This is what happens. Yeah, well, Politico has been
- 46:36cooked for a while. They've been pretty anti Bitcoin
- 46:39for a long time and it's just interesting.
- 46:42You know, I think in this article they tried to kind of
- 46:45lay it out like they're unbiased.
- 46:47But if you really read. It they they spend it like.
- 46:49Yeah, they, yeah, exactly. They tried to come off as
- 46:52unbiased, but it's definitely biased.
- 46:54And, and essentially if you read between the lines, they're
- 46:57saying like this is a bad thing. And we've heard this trend come
- 46:59out the last couple of weeks as well.
- 47:01I forget who it was last week or like 2 weeks ago, but basically
- 47:05saying that we have to watch the, the crypto donation super
- 47:10PACs because they are, you know, messing with democracy or
- 47:13whatever. And what I forget what the
- 47:15actual quote was, but and, and who it was exactly.
- 47:18But they're freaking out about this because now Bitcoiners are
- 47:22playing the game. And I know a lot of bitcoiners
- 47:24kind of take the opposite view of like, oh, you know, just like
- 47:27build a parallel system and no need for us to play the game
- 47:31because bitcoins going to win. And we, we talked about this
- 47:33yesterday and I'm glad that this article drop today or actually
- 47:36after the show yesterday on Politico because it's making our
- 47:40point for us. And really when you look at the
- 47:42numbers, 160 million for super PAC, like, yeah, it's not like
- 47:48too much money in the grand scheme of things, obviously, but
- 47:51as one donation base, like that's a pretty big, big
- 47:56donation. Like that's a lot of spending
- 47:58going on for our industry. And you just love to see it
- 48:00though again, you know, being more of a Bitcoin maxi, I did
- 48:04read the that article and kind of look at some of the wording
- 48:07from some of these politicians. And I haven't had enough time to
- 48:10like deep dive every single one of those politicians, but I did
- 48:14catch a trend of a lot of conversations about, you know,
- 48:17blockchain and digital asset innovations.
- 48:20So until they just go hard on, we are here to protect Bitcoin.
- 48:24I will obviously be a little skeptical about what their
- 48:28incentives are and how educated they are, but I think this is a
- 48:32good first step. And obviously this is our first
- 48:34basically Bitcoin election. And I think moving forward,
- 48:37Bitcoiners are going to get more involved.
- 48:39And Nico, when you were referencing the quote of I'm the
- 48:42captain now, I, I thought you were going to reference the, the
- 48:45Max Keiser quote of it was like 2017.
- 48:47And it's like he who has the money, makes the rules and we
- 48:50have the best money. And now we can get involved in
- 48:53the political system and try to influence what's going on.
- 48:56And let's not forget that Howard Lutnick is one of is on the
- 49:00board for the Trump transition team.
- 49:01Of course, Cantor Fitzgerald, yes, you can say that, you know,
- 49:05there's some iffy stuff going on with Tether, but I think that is
- 49:09growing trend that Bitcoin and you know, for lack of better
- 49:13terms, quote the crypto industry is being taken legitimate and
- 49:17now we are maturing and hopefully soon we will get some
- 49:20favorable regulations in the US. Hopefully they're, they're a
- 49:23little more hands off and they don't try to embark some weird
- 49:27taxes on us and, you know, force us not to hold custody Bitcoin
- 49:33and all that stuff. Like there's still a lot of work
- 49:35to be done, but I think this is a good first step on the road
- 49:39where we all know what's going to happen.
- 49:40Bitcoin is going to take over not only the financial sector,
- 49:43but the political sector. And hey, $160 million super PAC
- 49:48donations for being pro Bitcoin. Like it's, it's going towards
- 49:52the trend and the narrative that I've been and Nico have been
- 49:55saying on the show for a long time that if you fight Bitcoin,
- 49:58you're no longer going to be a politician.
- 50:00And I just love to see it, you know, this, this is how America
- 50:03works. This is how democracy works, is
- 50:05those who lobby, they get their favorite.
- 50:08Yeah, it isn't it, isn't it crazy, right?
- 50:10We're using their system, right? We're playing by their rules and
- 50:14this is how it, you know, this is how it comes it's just it's
- 50:17just interesting watching them see then and you, you, you feel
- 50:21the bias in that political article.
- 50:23They're not being sincere. They're not being honest.
- 50:25Bitcoin, without a shadow of a doubt, has been attacked for the
- 50:30last 3 1/2 years and we've covered it, it like we've
- 50:33covered it in depth in this show on on a Monday through Friday
- 50:38basis. So yeah, I mean, there you go.
- 50:41Like did you expect us to roll over and go away?
- 50:44It like, no, like this is what happens.
- 50:47Like you, you fight and then you get a reaction back and you get
- 50:50a taste of democracy anyways. Everybody hold on.
- 50:53It is funny though, Nico, you just reminded me.
- 50:55We were talking about it yesterday, but the, the, the
- 50:58meme of like rules for thee, but not for me.
- 51:01It it's like it's playing out again in this regard.
- 51:04They're like, oh, this is bad. You know, they're they're
- 51:07spending way too much money to lobby our politicians.
- 51:10Like we should fight this. And then when you really
- 51:13understand how politics works, like, hey, we're just playing
- 51:16the game. Like this, it's like we're doing
- 51:18exactly what you did, you just don't like the fact that we
- 51:21figured it out. Anyways, everybody, let's get to
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- 52:25one Bitcoin social layer, download the orange Pull app
- 52:28today. Stack friends who stacks sats
- 52:31Anyways, so we are going to talk about self custody today and the
- 52:36importance of taking self custody.
- 52:38Opti where are we? How are we going to get started?
- 52:41It was fitting, it was fitting we had to do it for today.
- 52:43I haven't done it in a while and we are getting new viewers here
- 52:48and considering that we are talking about self custody all
- 52:50day, I figured I'd give you guys, you know, just the, the
- 52:53elementary, the first steps on what you should be doing if you
- 52:57are only buying Bitcoin and you're leaving it on an
- 52:59exchange. And so I do again, I, I do the
- 53:02just the little TLDR, the framework that I like to use.
- 53:05If this is your first time taking your Bitcoin off in
- 53:07exchange so that you are secure. And then of course, I got some
- 53:10hardware wallets and, and mobile wallets that I like and desktop
- 53:13wallets that I like. So First off, First things first
- 53:17guys, if this is your first Bitcoin wallet, first of all,
- 53:19you need to take your Bitcoin off in exchange.
- 53:22As we said on the show, not your keys, not your cheese.
- 53:26If it's on in exchange, you could argue it's not really your
- 53:29Bitcoin. Yes, you have claimed to that
- 53:31Bitcoin, but until you take it off the exchange, it's not your
- 53:34Bitcoin. But once you do that, like, what
- 53:37are the first steps? Like what are the steps for you
- 53:39guys that are new that haven't done this before?
- 53:41How should you set up your Bitcoin wallets?
- 53:44So first of all, you know, you guys could throw tomatoes.
- 53:46Usually the best move forward for most people is just
- 53:49downloading a mobile wallet on your phone.
- 53:50You know, there's, there's a progression here, but First
- 53:54things first, download a mobile wallet.
- 53:55I'm going to give you some of my favourites that that are
- 53:57endorsed by and then this is the process.
- 54:01First, you're going to create a seed phrase.
- 54:02Your phone will do it for you. Of course, we've come on the
- 54:05show multiple times and and explain to you different ways
- 54:07that you can create a seed phrase.
- 54:09Then of course, you got to write your seed phrase down.
- 54:11Of course, double check that it's correct.
- 54:13Make sure you're writing clearly.
- 54:15Of course, there's next steps after that, but First things
- 54:17first, just write down your seed phrase.
- 54:19Double check it, make sure it's clear and and legible so that
- 54:23you can gain access back into your Bitcoin wallet.
- 54:26The second thing is don't send all, all of your Bitcoin from
- 54:29the exchange all at once yet. I would do a test transaction, a
- 54:32small transaction that could be whatever it means to you, you
- 54:36know, 5 dollars, $10 what whatever that means to you.
- 54:40Just make that decision for yourself.
- 54:41But you want to do a small test transaction to that new formed
- 54:45Bitcoin wallet. Now, once the transaction
- 54:48confirmed, you know, you can feel that that feeling that I
- 54:51first felt when I did my Bitcoin transaction where you're like,
- 54:53wait, what did I do? Did I mess it up?
- 54:55And then you see it confirm. And once you see your Bitcoin
- 54:58confirm into your new wallet, I always say you should wipe that
- 55:02Bitcoin wallet. I know scary.
- 55:03Oh my God, you're wiping your Bitcoin wallet.
- 55:05What if I can't get in? This is why we tell you to do a
- 55:08small Bitcoin transaction in the 1st place.
- 55:10So if you lose a couple of dollars, it's like whatever.
- 55:12But if you do this correctly, you're going to be fine.
- 55:16So once you wipe that wallet again, clear the seed phrase,
- 55:19basically restart the wallet, re enter your your Bitcoin seed
- 55:23phrase from the piece of paper that you got and voila, your
- 55:26Bitcoin should be there if it's done correctly.
- 55:29And once you do that, now you have the Peace of Mind knowing
- 55:32that you can get access back into your Bitcoin and then you
- 55:35can send the rest of your Bitcoin.
- 55:36Of course, you can complicate this.
- 55:38You can add passphrases on it, etcetera, etcetera, and move
- 55:41towards hardware wallets eventually.
- 55:43But for most people, to start off what you want to do, just
- 55:46send a little Bitcoin to a new wallet, make sure you can get
- 55:49back into that wallet with your seed phrase or get access to
- 55:52those signing devices. And then you know for sure that
- 55:55if you send all of your Bitcoin to it, you're not going to wreck
- 55:58yourself. OK, that's the basic TLDR our
- 56:01screenshot that last this scene right here and you know, follow
- 56:04that process it it shouldn't take long, but I I think that's
- 56:08kind of like an initiation, right?
- 56:09That most people should do. Once you become more
- 56:11experienced, you're probably like OK with it and you may not
- 56:15do these steps again, but for you beginners here, for people
- 56:18just taking their Bitcoin off in exchange and that's what you
- 56:20should be doing. OK, next thing is the question
- 56:23that everyone always asks. What about this Bitcoin wallet?
- 56:25Is this wallet good? What about this hardware wallet?
- 56:28Again, I am not the authority figure here on Bitcoin wallets
- 56:32and you know what are the best. You may think differently, but
- 56:35these are the wallets that I cosigned.
- 56:37These are the ones that I used and have used and they have very
- 56:41good reputations amongst the Bitcoin community.
- 56:44Again, there is a factor of trust when it comes to the
- 56:47Bitcoin wallets. That's why a lot of Bitcoiners
- 56:50say that you should use open source wallets, etcetera,
- 56:52etcetera. But then if that's over your
- 56:53head, this is the list that I've compiled that I constantly
- 56:56compile and I do update this when new wallets come out.
- 56:59There is one on here that I haven't got my hands on yet, but
- 57:01heard a lot of good things of and I'll point that out
- 57:04particularly. But again, usually you start
- 57:06with a mobile wallet. So First things first look, my
- 57:10favorite at this point is just cause I've been using it for so
- 57:13long and I'm such a lud eye and I don't like to change things is
- 57:17a blue wallet. I've been using it for years.
- 57:18It's it's my go to, it's my utility, it's my day-to-day
- 57:22wallet on my phone. It's blue wallet.
- 57:25But with that said, I also really like envoy wallet from
- 57:28our sponsor passport or sorry, foundation.
- 57:31And then there's another great 1, you know, green wallet from
- 57:34Blockstream or nunchuck. If you want to kind of get a
- 57:37little more serious about your custody and do multi sig, you
- 57:40should use an unchecked. And then there's some lightning
- 57:42wallets. Again, if I have to
- 57:44differentiate between on chain and lightning, maybe that's for
- 57:47another conversation, but for the sake of keeping this short,
- 57:50you know, lightning is so you can send Bitcoin quicker.
- 57:53Technically it's considered off considered off chain.
- 57:56My favorite is shouts out to the team over at Zeus.
- 57:59Zeus. They're the goats.
- 58:00They're, you know, keeping their lightning wallet open source.
- 58:05You can run a note on your computer.
- 58:06They're staying in America. Love them.
- 58:08Always push. Zeus shouts out to our boys over
- 58:11at Zeus. And then Aqua wallet.
- 58:12You know Aqua from Jan 3, I believe you know Samsung Mao,
- 58:16they're doing really cool stuff. Considering that wallet Satoshi
- 58:19left the US, they've kind of filled that void of just quick,
- 58:22easy to use Bitcoin lightning wallet.
- 58:25They are using tether as a part of their lightning swap.
- 58:28So if that's something you're concerned with, then there's
- 58:31other options. Bit kit is one of the new recent
- 58:34wallet. Shouts out to John Carvalho for,
- 58:36you know, his work over at Synonym.
- 58:38They're killing it love bit Kip. And then of course, if you're
- 58:41not in the US wallet of Satoshi, yes, it's custodial and again, a
- 58:45whole other conversation, whole other kind of worms here.
- 58:48But it just works and for small transactions, I think it's good
- 58:52enough for most people's needs here.
- 58:54But next is desktop. That means, you know,
- 58:58downloading a wallet on your laptop or your computer and
- 59:01using a desktop wallet. Of course, Niko and I are kind
- 59:05of well I I've I've slowly but surely became more of Electra
- 59:08Maxi because it's on my start 9 and I just love it Electra it's
- 59:13tried and true it's one of the OG desktop wallets.
- 59:15It's you know it's very very stable.
- 59:18The new ones on the block Sparrow.
- 59:20I really like Sparrow because of all the advanced features you
- 59:23can use on it. Sparrow just works.
- 59:24It's great. Highly recommend Sparrow and
- 59:26then Spectre similar to Sparrow, newer kid on the block, but a
- 59:30great desktop wallet. Now here where it gets to the
- 59:34fun part, of course, the hardware wallet and this is you
- 59:38know, there's some others maybe and you know you guys can tell
- 59:41and yell at me which ones you like the most.
- 59:43But of course, our sponsor for you and you guys, I think pass
- 59:48forward by foundation is like to go just because of easy use.
- 59:51It is open source cold wall cold storage.
- 59:54Your seed phrase never hits the Internet.
- 59:56The OG one for a lot of the bitcoiners out there is a cold
- 1:00:00cold card. I have two of them here, you
- 1:00:02know, the Q and the MK series. Those are great.
- 1:00:06And then this next one. Bit key, I haven't personally
- 1:00:09used this one yet guys, but I've been hearing a lot of good
- 1:00:12things from bit key and I'm actually I think I'm going to
- 1:00:14purchase one for myself this Christmas so that I can, you
- 1:00:17know, test it out and see what's good with it.
- 1:00:20Shouts out to Adam from Bitcoin. Well, he's keeps telling me they
- 1:00:24did the bit key. It's just it's so simple.
- 1:00:26It works. I love it.
- 1:00:27It's my day-to-day and then you know, there is a lot of
- 1:00:29contention in regards to the last one seed signer, but DIY, I
- 1:00:35love it. It's really good.
- 1:00:36If you want to, you know, they're a hardware wallet,
- 1:00:40hardware signing device for your friends and your family and
- 1:00:42uncle Jim them. It's a really fun, fun project
- 1:00:45to build a seed signer. It you know, you, it makes you
- 1:00:47feel kind of cool and technical and all that stuff.
- 1:00:50So again, these are the ones that I endorse.
- 1:00:53These are the wallets that I use for most people out there.
- 1:00:56Like if I know last time I did this, I believe it was Elaine
- 1:00:59who who was like yelling. I mean, she's like, well, just
- 1:01:01tell me which ones to use. Again, I recommend that you use
- 1:01:05them all. Maybe there's some trade-offs
- 1:01:07that you like. On some it's.
- 1:01:08Passport. It's great.
- 1:01:10You should get a passport. I was.
- 1:01:11Going to say that. So like, like I said, I've been
- 1:01:15using blue wallet on my phone for a long time, but the Envoy
- 1:01:17app is really, really great. And I'm not just saying that
- 1:01:20because they pay us. I'm saying that because it's
- 1:01:22just ease of use, it's great. So to simplify it, you know, for
- 1:01:26you new people here, and of course we're paid by by
- 1:01:29passport, but download the Envoy app, get yourself a passport.
- 1:01:32And if you're your newer ease of use, you don't want to
- 1:01:35complicate things. That's that's more than good
- 1:01:38enough for you guys out there and it's going to be secure.
- 1:01:41You know, you don't have to trust us.
- 1:01:42You can look at the code, you can you can do your own
- 1:01:44research. It's it's open, it's open
- 1:01:46source, it's easily used, it has a secure element.
- 1:01:50It's it's completely air gapped. It's incredibly easy to use.
- 1:01:54I recommend the passport. The passport has all the
- 1:01:58convenience of someone that is just getting into self custody
- 1:02:02and perhaps they feel a little bit intimidated by the
- 1:02:05complexities of the other hardware wallets, but it also
- 1:02:08gives you all the Security benefits of someone who someone
- 1:02:14who you know does. It is a cold storage a a maxi
- 1:02:20and and an OG bitcoiner right? So I would recommend the
- 1:02:22passport. Of course, you know they are a
- 1:02:25partner of simply Bitcoin, but we do not partner with products
- 1:02:30or Bitcoin companies that we don't use personally.
- 1:02:33So highly recommend the passport.
- 1:02:35Definitely check it out. You can use promo code simply
- 1:02:39and it will definitely give you a discount.
- 1:02:41But yes, take self custody of your Bitcoin.
- 1:02:44You can connect it with the Envoy app.
- 1:02:46So you download the Envoy app for your Android or your or your
- 1:02:49iOS, the Apple device and you can even connect the app to your
- 1:02:54personal node. So you don't even have to use
- 1:02:56their node, right. So it's it's really, really
- 1:03:00built with Bitcoiners in mind. So definitely go check out
- 1:03:04passport by foundation devices. The links in the video
- 1:03:07description. Not your keys, not your cheese
- 1:03:09guys. This one.
- 1:03:10Last thing, last thing, Nico, I do have one last PSA here just
- 1:03:15just to know for you guys out there, it doesn't just stop with
- 1:03:18that guys. There is some next steps here
- 1:03:20for most people that I highly recommend.
- 1:03:22Of course, run a note. Don't just trust the companies
- 1:03:25that you're hooking up your Bitcoin wallets to make sure you
- 1:03:27are verifying your own transactions.
- 1:03:29This is how we ensure the Bitcoin network stays true to
- 1:03:32what Bitcoin is. Of course, continue to save in
- 1:03:35Bitcoin and then as you start to build your Bitcoin stack, when
- 1:03:39the mempools start to clear out, consolidate your UTX OS.
- 1:03:43I've done episodes on that before in the past.
- 1:03:45And then, of course, like I said, you know, back up your
- 1:03:47seed phrase. Of course, we do have the
- 1:03:49sponsor stamp seed out here. Make sure you're putting it on
- 1:03:52something that won't just get destroyed if some kind of
- 1:03:57catastrophe or emergency happens and you don't want to leave your
- 1:04:00seed phrase on a piece of paper. Sure.
- 1:04:02So there's extra steps to this guys.
- 1:04:03It is a journey. You don't have to do this all at
- 1:04:06once. Of course, you know, you got to
- 1:04:09look at your Bitcoin today. Think of it like it's 10X the
- 1:04:13price it is today and with that in mind, how do you want to
- 1:04:16secure your Bitcoin? If you just want to put it on a
- 1:04:18Bitcoin wallet, by all means do or a mobile Bitcoin wallet, by
- 1:04:22all means do that. But you should think of the
- 1:04:25wealth you have in Bitcoin going up by 10X.
- 1:04:28And then that's how you should consider how, you know,
- 1:04:32complicated and secure that you want that Bitcoin in cold
- 1:04:37storage backed up, all that stuff.
- 1:04:39But you should think of it like say, if you have $1000 in
- 1:04:42Bitcoin right now, does that change in your mind if it was
- 1:04:46$10,000, you know, say you have 10,000, does that change how
- 1:04:49your security view on your Bitcoin is if it's $100,000?
- 1:04:53These are the things you should be talking about and thinking
- 1:04:55about right now. But first on 1st, make sure you
- 1:04:58get your Bitcoin off in exchange.
- 1:04:59Self custody is the revolution and we'll, you know, we'll do
- 1:05:02our best to kind of guide your hand throughout the process, but
- 1:05:05you need to take your Bitcoin off the exchanges.
- 1:05:08Not your keys, not your cheese. All right everybody, if you guys
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