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"Take Me to Your Leader!" · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Today's episode
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Speaker 1: I call take Me to Your Leader. There's a cliche
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Speaker 1: in the UFO field that if ets were arrived on
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Speaker 1: our planet, they would land on the White House lawn
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Speaker 1: and say, take me to your leader. And perhaps this
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Speaker 1: is not really a cliche at all, because UFOs did,
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Speaker 1: in fact hover over the White House in the early
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Speaker 1: nineteen fifties. A couple of times. They were photographed, they
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Speaker 1: were caught on radar, we chased after them. It did
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Speaker 1: not get a particularly friendly reception. I'm sure you have
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Speaker 1: heard of several encounters with world leaders, such as the
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Speaker 1: President Eisenhower alleged meeting in nineteen fifty four at Edward's
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Speaker 1: Air Force Base, or perhaps the encounter with President Nixon
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Speaker 1: showing Jackie Gleeson et bodies at an Air Force base
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Speaker 1: in Florida. So I'm not talking about these cases. I
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Speaker 1: have about twenty or more cases in which highly placed
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Speaker 1: world leaders across the United States and the world have
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Speaker 1: actually gone public and said in their own words that
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Speaker 1: they've had ufone coners. This includes presidents like Jimmy Carter
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Speaker 1: and Ronald Reagan, but also governors, senators, representatives, people in
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Speaker 1: all stages of politics, all levels of political office. And
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Speaker 1: it's not just in the United States, this is across
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Speaker 1: the world. So this is what I'd like to talk
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Speaker 1: about today. I think these cases are important for a
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Speaker 1: number of reasons. Our world leaders are the ones who
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Speaker 1: are responsible for setting policy, enacting laws, and basically doing
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Speaker 1: the right thing for all humanity, and they are being
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Speaker 1: contacted by UFOs, and I'm guessing the vast majority of
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Speaker 1: them are not talking about it. But these cases are
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Speaker 1: important for that reason alone. And as researcher Antonio Hunius
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Speaker 1: writes and I quote, UFO sightings by heads of state
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Speaker 1: are always an important milestone because it shows that this
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Speaker 1: phenomenon reaches all walks of life, including politicians and national leaders.
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Speaker 1: So what I'd like to do is take you on
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Speaker 1: a little journey through time and present all the cases
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Speaker 1: that I could find of world leaders who have had
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Speaker 1: UFO encnors. And this reaches back decades, all the way
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Speaker 1: to really the dawn of the modern age of UFOs
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Speaker 1: nineteen forty seven up to pretty much the present day.
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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of cases I'd like to present
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Speaker 1: to you today, so let's just get started. Among The
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Speaker 1: first politician or world leader that I could find to
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Speaker 1: step forward and talk about their own UFO counter was
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Speaker 1: Potter P. Howard. He was the mayor of Boise, Idaho,
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Speaker 1: in nineteen forty seven, and on August one, nineteen forty seven,
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Speaker 1: Mayor Howard was on a United Airlines flight traveling from
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Speaker 1: Boise to Rena, Nevada, and while over the vicinity of Winnemucca,
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Speaker 1: the mayor saw a fleet of a dozen discs sweep
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Speaker 1: below the plane, and as he told the Idaho Statesman
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Speaker 1: newspaper and I quote, the saucers were several thousand feet
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Speaker 1: below the plane. A woman passenger also saw the twelve discs.
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Speaker 2: So this was a.
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Speaker 1: Very early case. But ever since then, year after year,
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Speaker 1: politicians and world leaders have been stepping forward to talk
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Speaker 1: about their own encounters. And in fact, the next one
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Speaker 1: I could find occurred five years later, on August fifth,
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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty two, and this involves the former mayor of Gainesville, Texas.
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Speaker 1: His name is H. A. Latham, and he shared his
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Speaker 1: story of his UFO encounter with the News Telegram newspaper.
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Speaker 1: Mayor Latham was fishing with his brother Jack and teenage
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Speaker 1: son Jimmy on the evening of August fifth, when they
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Speaker 1: all simultaneously noticed a cylindrical shaped object flying overhead. Was
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Speaker 1: comparable in size, he said, to a large airplane. They
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Speaker 1: moved slowly at first in an arc overhead, then darted
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Speaker 1: extremely rapidly to the west, and as Mayor Latham said,
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Speaker 1: I've been skeptical up to now of all these flying
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Speaker 1: saucer stories, but all three of us saw it at
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Speaker 1: the same time. Another really excellent case occurred that same year.
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Speaker 1: About one month later, on September sixth, nineteen fifty two,
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Speaker 1: it was four fifty five pm when former Congresswoman Isabella King,
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Speaker 1: who was in fact the first congresswoman in Arizona's history,
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Speaker 1: she and her friend Bill McClaine observed an orange tear
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Speaker 1: shaped object overhead. It first whirled on its vertical access
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Speaker 1: and then descended very quickly, stopped and began whirling in
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Speaker 1: the opposite direction, and retraced its path upward. So clearly
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Speaker 1: an unusual object, not a shooting star or a plane
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Speaker 1: or anything like that. And after interviewing the witnesses and
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Speaker 1: investigating the incident, intelligence officers from the Air Force's Project
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Speaker 1: Blue Book or stumped they could not explain it, and
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Speaker 1: the incident became case number two zero four to eight
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Speaker 1: in Blue Book files and was declared unidentified. It was,
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Speaker 1: in fact, one of several unexplained sightings over the city
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Speaker 1: of Tucson at that time. It's a good case. It
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Speaker 1: was three years later, October fourth, nineteen fifty five, around
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Speaker 1: seven pm, when Senator Richard Russell of Georgia was a
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Speaker 1: passenger on a train traveling through the Transcaucza region of Russia,
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Speaker 1: yet his whole crew with them, and looking out the
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Speaker 1: window of the train, Senator Russell and the others saw
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Speaker 1: a large disc shaped craft rising up from alongside the
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Speaker 1: railroad tracks. They said a bright flame was coming from
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Speaker 1: the bottom of the craft, which ascended and actually crossed
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Speaker 1: the tracks in front of the train. This was immediately
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Speaker 1: followed by another craft, so Senator Russell alerted his companions,
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Speaker 1: who only saw the second disc before the Soviet train
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Speaker 1: officials quickly shut the curtains and refused to let the
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Speaker 1: passengers look outside, so they were trying to cover it up,
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Speaker 1: but one of the witnesses was Colonel Hathaway, who said
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Speaker 1: and I quote, I doubt if you are going to
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Speaker 1: believe this, but we all saw it. Senator Russell was
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Speaker 1: the first to see this flying disc. We've been told
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Speaker 1: for years that there isn't such a thing, but all
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Speaker 1: of us saw it. One disc ascended almost vertically at
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Speaker 1: a relatively slow speed, with its outer surface revolving slowly
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Speaker 1: to the right to an altitude of about six thousand feet,
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Speaker 1: where its speed then increased sharply as it headed north.
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Speaker 1: The second flying disc was seen performing the same action.
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Speaker 1: It was about one minute later, and the take off
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Speaker 1: area was about one to two miles south of the
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Speaker 1: rail line. So at the time, Senator Russell was the
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Speaker 1: head of the Armed Services Committee, it's a very powerful
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Speaker 1: position within the US Senate, and he reported his sighting
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Speaker 1: to various intelligence agencies. But when queried about the sighting
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Speaker 1: by reporters from the Los Angeles Examiner, Russell was very
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Speaker 1: brief in his reply and said only I have discussed
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Speaker 1: this matter with the affected agencies, and they are of
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Speaker 1: the opinion that it is not wise to publicize this
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Speaker 1: matter at this time. So this remained secret for quite
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Speaker 1: some time, and it wasn't until nineteen eighty five that
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Speaker 1: the files about the incident were declassified and the details
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Speaker 1: on this case were revealed. But he's certainly not the
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Speaker 1: only senator to have had a close encounter. There's a
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Speaker 1: long list of highly placed government officials who have seen UFOs,
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Speaker 1: and it wasn't long after Senator Russell's sighting same year,
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Speaker 1: in fact, that Colorado State Senator S. T. Taylor also
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Speaker 1: saw a UFO. This was on November twenty five, nineteen
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Speaker 1: fifty five, and it was over LaVeta, Colorado. This was
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Speaker 1: a dirigible shaped object, and according to the senator, this
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Speaker 1: object glowed blue green and had an almost jelly like appearance.
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Speaker 1: He estimated it was moving about half the speed of
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Speaker 1: a shooting star, so very quick. It appeared to be
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Speaker 1: at about fifteen thousand feet elevation, and it was diving
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Speaker 1: downward overhead at a forty five degree angle, but at
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Speaker 1: one point it actually leveled off and then moved upward
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Speaker 1: at a thirty degree angle and off over Mount Mestis,
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Speaker 1: so clearly not a shooting star. Senator Taylor estimates it
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Speaker 1: was in view for about five seconds. It made no
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Speaker 1: sound and had no exhaust. He reported his case to
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Speaker 1: the FBI and later to Project Blue Book, who after
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Speaker 1: investigating the case and interviewing Senator Taylor, were not able
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Speaker 1: to identify it and declared it unexplained. This is Blue
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Speaker 1: Book case number three eight six nine. So a good
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Speaker 1: case with an excellent witness. And another encounter that seems
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Speaker 1: almost intentional occurred on August tenth, nineteen sixty three, and
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Speaker 1: this was witnessed by Harry L. Bishop. He was the
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Speaker 1: former mayor of Mount Vernon in Illinois, and recently there
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Speaker 1: had been a number of sightings in the area. But
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Speaker 1: on the night question August tenth, nineteen sixty three, calls
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Speaker 1: began to flood into the local police station, and Mayor
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Speaker 1: Bishop was unaware of all the activity until his wife
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Speaker 1: observed the strange object around ten o'clock that night and
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Speaker 1: called him outside, and he ran outside to view it
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Speaker 1: and was shocked at what he saw. I'd just like
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Speaker 1: to read a quote from Mayor Bishop himself, as he says,
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Speaker 1: I could hardly believe my eyes. He said that a
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Speaker 1: bright fireball was quote coming right down the Centralia Road
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Speaker 1: from the north. He said, it was the brightest red
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Speaker 1: light I've ever seen. It appeared to be only three
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Speaker 1: hundred or four hundred feet high, was oval shaped and
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Speaker 1: was about the size of a washtub. He said, I
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Speaker 1: first saw the lighted object following the route of Centralia Road.
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Speaker 1: When it got over my house, it stopped and I
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Speaker 1: could see it very clearly. Although it was bright red,
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Speaker 1: it did not light up the neighborhood. It seemed to
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Speaker 1: me making a light worrying sound. So this is very
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Speaker 1: interesting that this object should travel down the road and
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Speaker 1: then stop right over the Mayor's house. Makes me wonder
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Speaker 1: if it did this on purpose. Mayor Bishop immediately did
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Speaker 1: what anyone should do when they see a UFO. He
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Speaker 1: got more witnesses. He called his neighbors out to watch
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Speaker 1: it too, because he was worried. As he says, everyone
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Speaker 1: would think I was crazy. But his neighbors came out
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Speaker 1: they saw it too. As Mayor Bishop says, and I quote,
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Speaker 1: I called the neighbors and they also watched the strange
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Speaker 1: lighted object. I noticed a car coming down the Centralia Road.
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Speaker 1: It stopped suddenly, and the driver jumped out and looked upwards.
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Speaker 1: He saw the object too, and it startled him to
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Speaker 1: a stop. So Mayor Bishop did talk to reporters from
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Speaker 1: the Register News who investigated it and found out that yes,
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Speaker 1: there were in fact a number of sightings going on
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Speaker 1: at that time. Mayor Bishop and his neighbors watched this
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Speaker 1: object for a good ten or fifteen minutes as it
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Speaker 1: moved westward and finally blinked out, as Mayor Bishop says,
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Speaker 1: like somebody had turned the light off. But after just
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Speaker 1: a few seconds it reappeared to the west and moved
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Speaker 1: away at a high rate of speed. And he later
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Speaker 1: learned that there were other witnesses, including Robert Trammel, a
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Speaker 1: former army pilot. So the sighting did cause a local
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Speaker 1: sensation and was printed up in several local newspapers. And
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Speaker 1: it really makes me wonder if these UFOs and the
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Speaker 1: occupants are showing themselves to world leaders on purpose. Here's
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Speaker 1: another case. This occurred on April twenty five, nineteen sixty six.
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Speaker 3: It was just.
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Speaker 1: Before nine pm when Florida Governor Hayden Burns took off
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Speaker 1: from a plane in Orlando, Florida. Along with him were
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Speaker 1: his wife, the pilot, the co pilot in three campaign ads,
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Speaker 1: and four newsmen. It was just a few minutes after
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Speaker 1: takeoff they had reached an altitude of about six thousand
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Speaker 1: feet and without warning, two bright glowing objects began to
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Speaker 1: follow the plane. They were observed by everyone on board,
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Speaker 1: including of course Senator Burns, who looked out the window
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Speaker 1: and said, it's a UFO. The co pilot described the
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Speaker 1: UFO as quote, two brilliant globes side by side. It
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Speaker 1: kept right with us, and at first Senator Burns did
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Speaker 1: keep quiet about it until he heard that there were
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Speaker 1: a lot of other witnesses, and in an article for
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Speaker 1: the News Tribune, he described the sighting in his own words,
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Speaker 1: and as Senator Burns says, and I quote, we saw
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Speaker 1: the thing ahead of us, right in the air lane,
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Speaker 1: but about five hundred feet higher. We watched it for
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Speaker 1: six or seven minutes. At first it looked like a
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Speaker 1: real bright star. As we grew closer, it took on
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Speaker 1: a much greater dimension. The light was most intense, almost
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Speaker 1: like looking into a direct light bulb. We saw no
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Speaker 1: image because the light was blinding. So they called the
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Speaker 1: Miami Airport, who told him that the object did not
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Speaker 1: appear on the radar. But after tracking this object for
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Speaker 1: several miles, Governor Burns ordered the pilot to actually pursue
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Speaker 1: the UFO, as it was at this moment that the
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Speaker 1: object actually disappeared, and as Senator burn Or, Governor Burns says,
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Speaker 1: and I quote, I think we scared it away, because
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Speaker 1: then it rose at an accelerated rate, something in the
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Speaker 1: vicinity of three hundred to four hundred miles per hour.
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Speaker 1: The object ascended immediately from eight thousand to near twenty
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Speaker 1: thousand feet, and at first it had been absolutely still.
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Speaker 1: So to his credit, he did decide to go public.
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Speaker 1: He began his political career as mayor of Jacksonville, Florida,
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Speaker 1: but became Florida governor in nineteen sixty five. He was
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Speaker 1: up for reelection in nineteen sixty six, but unfortunately he
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Speaker 1: lost the election many other cases, though just a few
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Speaker 1: years later, September sixth, nineteen seventy one, Wyoming Congressional Representative
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Speaker 1: Malcolm Wallop was soon his senator. Had just finished eating
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Speaker 1: dinner with a group of fifteen guests at a ranch
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Speaker 1: near Big Horn, Wyoming. They were all outside on the
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Speaker 1: porch looking at the stars, and without warning, at about
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Speaker 1: ten to fifteen pm, a small group of brilliantly lit
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Speaker 1: objects rose from the north west horizon, sped across the sky,
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Speaker 1: and disappeared to the southwest. These objects were in a
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Speaker 1: tight formation and were pulsing in brightness, and they appeared
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Speaker 1: to move with this strange quote leap frogging maneuvers. There
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Speaker 1: was a lot of witnesses, and they disagreed on disagreed
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Speaker 1: on the exact number of objects, with estimates ranging from
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Speaker 1: about eight to as many as twenty objects, but they
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Speaker 1: did all agree that these objects were oval in shape
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Speaker 1: and moving faster than jet aircraft, and in fact, some
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Speaker 1: of them moved so quickly they left a trail of
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Speaker 1: reddish light behind them, and no sound was ever heard.
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Speaker 1: Other than Representative Wallop, there was other prominent witnesses, including
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Speaker 1: the ranch owner Alan Fordash, doctor Robert Connall, and an
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Speaker 1: anonymous Air Force major who was actually on leave from
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Speaker 1: the Pentagon. All of them were pilots by the way.
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Speaker 1: They immediately contacted the FAA, the Federal Aviation Administration, who
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Speaker 1: told them that there were no known aircraft in the area.
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Speaker 1: In the days following this incident, at least two other
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Speaker 1: groups of witnesses also reported seeing what appears to be
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Speaker 1: the same objects. Ultimately, Representative Malcolm Wallop never spoke publicly
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Speaker 1: about his sighting, which received only brief mention in a
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Speaker 1: small UFO publication called Data Net so Representative Wallop, later Senator,
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Speaker 1: was best known for being a leading Conservative Senator during
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Speaker 1: the administration of Ronald Reagan. He held office for quite
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Speaker 1: a long time. Probably the most famous politician to claim
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Speaker 1: a UFO siding is, of course Jimmy Carter, who served
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Speaker 1: as governor of Georgia from nineteen seventy one to nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy five and of course President of the United States
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Speaker 1: from nineteen seventy seven to nineteen eighty one. But it
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Speaker 1: was a cold evening on January sixth, nineteen sixty nine,
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Speaker 1: when he was beginning to consider running for governor, when
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Speaker 1: Carter and ten other witnesses were standing outside the Lions
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Speaker 1: Club in Leary, Georgia, when they all saw a strange
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Speaker 1: glowing orb and as Jimmy Carter says, and I quote,
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Speaker 1: it seemed to move toward us from a distance, stop,
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Speaker 1: move partially away, return, and then depart. He described this
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Speaker 1: object as bluish at first, then reddish, luminous, not solid
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Speaker 1: at times. It was as bright as the moon, and
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Speaker 1: about as big as the moon, maybe a bit smaller.
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Speaker 1: So he was interviewed about this many times. In nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy three, he told reporters there were about twenty of
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Speaker 1: us standing outside a little restaurant, I believe a high
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Speaker 1: school lunch room, and a kind of green light appeared
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Speaker 1: in the western sky. This was right after sundown. It
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Speaker 1: got brighter and brighter, and then it eventually disappeared. It
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Speaker 1: didn't have any solid substance to it. It was just
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Speaker 1: a very peculiar looking light. None of us could understand
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Speaker 1: what it was. So he continued to be very vocal
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Speaker 1: about this. In two thousand and five, he gave another
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Speaker 1: interview in which he said, and all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: one of the men looked up and said, look over
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Speaker 1: in the west, and there was a bright light in
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Speaker 1: the sky. We all saw it. And then the light
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Speaker 1: it got closer and closer to us, and then it stopped.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how far away, but it stopped beyond
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Speaker 1: the pine trees, and all of a sudden it changed
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Speaker 1: color to blue, and then it changed to red, then
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Speaker 1: back to white. We were trying to figure out what
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Speaker 1: in the world it could be, and then it receded
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Speaker 1: into the distance. So he did actually report his sighting
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Speaker 1: to NIGHTCAP, the National Investigative Committee on Aerial Phenomena, and
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Speaker 1: as he said in another interview, I don't laugh at
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Speaker 1: people anymore when they say they've seen UFOs. I've seen
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Speaker 1: one myself. It was the darnedest thing I have ever seen.
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Speaker 1: It was big, it was bright, it changed colors, and
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Speaker 1: it was about the size of the moon. And at
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Speaker 1: one point during an interview he made a remarkable statement
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Speaker 1: he said, I I have no idea what it was,
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Speaker 1: but I think it was a light beckoning me to
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Speaker 1: run in the Georgia Primary. So could this have been
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Speaker 1: an intentional sightings? I will say that some skeptics and debunkers,
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Speaker 1: such as Robert Schaeffer and James Oberg have offered various
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Speaker 1: explanations to explain away this sighting, including everything from venus
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Speaker 1: to a quote barium cloud released from Eglin AFB. However,
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Speaker 1: Carter made it clear in his many statements that he
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Speaker 1: believed it was a genuine UFO, and in fact, Jimmy
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Speaker 1: Carter's mother, Lillian Carter, writes that the sighting had a
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Speaker 1: profound effect on her son. As Lillian Carter says in
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Speaker 1: her own words, the UFO made a huge impression on Jimmy.
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Speaker 1: He told me about the sighting many times. He's always
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Speaker 1: been a down to earth, no nonsense boy, and the
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Speaker 1: citing by him, as far as I was concerned, is
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Speaker 1: as firm as money in the bank. So Jimmy Carter
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Speaker 1: did become president, and during his campaign to become president
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Speaker 1: of the United States, he actually promised to make public
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Speaker 1: all the UFO information being held in secret by our
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Speaker 1: own government. As he said, if I become president, I'll
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Speaker 1: make every piece of information this country has about UFO
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Speaker 1: sightings available to the public and the scientists. I am
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Speaker 1: convinced that UFOs exist because I've seen one. Unfortunately, for
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Speaker 1: reasons we can only speculate upon, but some have pointed
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Speaker 1: to national security concerns. Carter did not fulfill this campaign promise. However,
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Speaker 1: he did make another really interesting contribution towards his subject.
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Speaker 1: When the Voyager spacecraft was constructed and launched by the US.
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Speaker 1: This was in nineteen seventy seven that Carter actually wrote
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Speaker 1: a message directly to the ETS. And I think this
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Speaker 1: is an important enough message that I'd like to read
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Speaker 1: it for you. And this is from Jimmy Carter, as
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Speaker 1: he says on this Golden Record that was sent out
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Speaker 1: into space for the ETS. This Voyager spacecraft was constructed
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Speaker 1: by the United States of America. We are a community
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Speaker 1: of two hundred and forty million human beings among the
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Speaker 1: more than four billion will inhabit the planet Earth. We
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Speaker 1: human beings are still divided into nation states, but these
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Speaker 1: states are rapidly becoming a single global civilization. We cast
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Speaker 1: this message into the cosmos. It is likely to survive
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Speaker 1: a billion years into our future, when our civilization is
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Speaker 1: profoundly altered and the surface of the Earth may be
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Speaker 1: vastly changed. Of the two hundred billion stars in the
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Speaker 1: Milky Way Galaxy, some, perhaps many, may have inhabited planets
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Speaker 1: and space faring civilizations. If one such civilization intercepts voyager
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Speaker 1: and can understand these recorded contents, here is our message.
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Speaker 1: This is a present from a small distant world, a
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Speaker 1: token of our sounds, our science, our images, our music,
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Speaker 1: our thoughts, and our feelings. We are tempting to survive
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Speaker 1: our time so we may live into yours. We hope
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Speaker 1: someday to have solved the problems we face to join
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Speaker 1: a community of galactic civilizations. This record represents our hope
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Speaker 1: and determination and our goodwill in ennes vast and awesome universe.
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Speaker 1: Signed Jimmy Carter, President of the United States. So I
26:08
Speaker 1: sometimes wonder if Jimmy Carter himself was a UFO contactee,
26:12
Speaker 1: And that's a really wonderful message I think to send out.
26:16
Speaker 1: I also think it's quite interesting that it was just
26:20
Speaker 1: a short time later that there was another sighting by
26:25
Speaker 1: another governor within the United States. This occurred in October
26:31
Speaker 1: of nineteen seventy three, when a huge wave of sightings
26:34
Speaker 1: was sweeping across Ohio, and among the witnesses to the
26:39
Speaker 1: activity was the Governor of Ohio, John Gilligan. While driving
26:44
Speaker 1: with his wife Katie near ann Arbor, Michigan, they both
26:49
Speaker 1: observed an amber colored object, remained in view for about
26:53
Speaker 1: half an hour, and at one point actually sent down
26:56
Speaker 1: a quote vertical beam of light. This object was bright
27:01
Speaker 1: enough that it was visible through a cover of clouds,
27:04
Speaker 1: and when the clouds broke up, the object disappeared, and
27:08
Speaker 1: when asked what he thought the object was, Governor Gilligan
27:13
Speaker 1: replied that he didn't know. So this was headline news
27:18
Speaker 1: and was actually reported on by the famed newscaster Walter Cronkite,
27:24
Speaker 1: and during a subsequent press conference, Governor Gilligan was asked
27:28
Speaker 1: about his sighting and said I saw one the other night,
27:32
Speaker 1: so help me. I'm absolutely serious. I saw this. It
27:37
Speaker 1: was not a plane, was not a bird, it didn't
27:40
Speaker 1: wear a cape, and I really don't know what it was.
27:45
Speaker 1: So arch debunker and skeptic Robert Schaeffer has tried to
27:49
Speaker 1: explain away the sighting as the planet Mars, but does
27:52
Speaker 1: not explain how Mars can be visible through a cloud
27:55
Speaker 1: cover and send down a beam of light or suddenly
27:58
Speaker 1: disappear from view. So clearly unusual. And it was just
28:03
Speaker 1: one year later when one of the most famous politician
28:08
Speaker 1: UFO sightings occurred, and that was in nineteen seventy four
28:13
Speaker 1: when President Ronald Reagan, then governor of California, was taking
28:19
Speaker 1: a routine night time flight. His pilot was Bill Painter,
28:25
Speaker 1: and it was Bill Painter who first revealed the details
28:28
Speaker 1: of this in an interview. As pilot, Bill Painter says,
28:33
Speaker 1: I was the pilot of the plane when we saw
28:36
Speaker 1: the u FO. Also on board were Governor Reagan and
28:39
Speaker 1: a couple of his security people. We were near Bakersfield
28:44
Speaker 1: when Governor Reagan and others called my attention to a
28:47
Speaker 1: big light flying a bit behind my plane. It appeared
28:51
Speaker 1: to be several hundred yards away. It was a fairly
28:54
Speaker 1: steady light until it began to accelerate, and then it
28:58
Speaker 1: appeared to elongate. Then the light took off. It went
29:02
Speaker 1: up at a forty five degree angle from a normal
29:04
Speaker 1: cruise speed to a fantastic speed instantly. And although this
29:11
Speaker 1: sighting was not very well known, Reagan himself did confirm
29:15
Speaker 1: the details to Norman Miller, who was then Washington bureau
29:19
Speaker 1: chief for the Wall Street Journal. Reagan actually told Norman
29:24
Speaker 1: Miller that after citing the object, he ordered his pilot,
29:28
Speaker 1: Bill Painter, to follow it, and, as Ronald Reagan said,
29:33
Speaker 1: we followed it for several minutes, all of a sudden
29:37
Speaker 1: to our utter amazement, and went straight up into the heavens.
29:41
Speaker 1: When I got off the plane, I told Nancy all
29:44
Speaker 1: about it, and we read up on the long history
29:47
Speaker 1: of UFOs. So when Norman Miller interviewed Reagan about this,
29:53
Speaker 1: he was surprised that the governor was so candid and
29:56
Speaker 1: asked Reagan if he actually believed in UFOs. And, as
30:00
Speaker 1: Norman Miller says, when I asked him that question, a
30:05
Speaker 1: look of horror came over his face. It suddenly dawned
30:09
Speaker 1: on him what he was saying the implications, and that
30:12
Speaker 1: he was talking to a reporter. He snapped back to
30:16
Speaker 1: reality and said, let's just say that on that subject
30:20
Speaker 1: of UFOs, I'm an agnostic. So Reagan never gave any
30:26
Speaker 1: further interviews regarding his sighting, but when he was president
30:31
Speaker 1: he did make several very provocative statements that revealed his
30:36
Speaker 1: possible belief in extraterrestrials. And in nineteen eighty five he
30:42
Speaker 1: made a very interesting, enigmatic statement, and I'd just like
30:46
Speaker 1: to play a little recording of it for you here.
30:50
Speaker 2: I couldn't help at one point in my discussions with
30:53
Speaker 2: privately with General Secretary Gorbachev, when you stopped a thing
30:59
Speaker 2: that were God's children wherever we may live in the world,
31:03
Speaker 2: I couldn't help but say to him, just think how
31:05
Speaker 2: easy his task and mind might be. And these meetings
31:09
Speaker 2: that we held, if suddenly there was a threat to
31:12
Speaker 2: this world from some other species, from another planet outside
31:19
Speaker 2: in the universe, we'd forget all the little local differences
31:22
Speaker 2: that we have between our countries, and we would find
31:26
Speaker 2: out once and for all that we really are all
31:30
Speaker 2: human beings here on this earth together. Well, I don't
31:35
Speaker 2: suppose we can wait for some alien race to come
31:38
Speaker 2: down and threaten us. But I think that between us
31:41
Speaker 2: we can bring about that realization.
31:45
Speaker 1: Was two years later, in nineteen eighty seven, President Reagan
31:49
Speaker 1: again discussed the extraterrestrial presence, again layeling it as a threat.
31:58
Speaker 2: In our obsession with antagonist of the moment, we often
32:02
Speaker 2: forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps
32:07
Speaker 2: we need some outside universal threat to make us recognize
32:12
Speaker 2: this common bound. I occasionally think how quickly our difference
32:18
Speaker 2: is worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien
32:22
Speaker 2: threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask you,
32:28
Speaker 2: is not an alien force already among us?
32:31
Speaker 1: And here is a third comment, again from President Reagan.
32:38
Speaker 2: I think maybe I'd answer it this way. I keep
32:41
Speaker 2: in my frustrations sometimes, you know, actually, if you count
32:45
Speaker 2: some of the things going on in smaller countries and all,
32:48
Speaker 2: there have been about one hundred and fourteen wars since
32:51
Speaker 2: World War II. But I've often wondered, what if all
32:56
Speaker 2: of us in the world discovered that we were threatened
33:00
Speaker 2: by an outer power from outer space, from another planet,
33:06
Speaker 2: wouldn't we all of a sudden find that we didn't
33:09
Speaker 2: have any differences between us at all? We were all
33:12
Speaker 2: human beings citizens of the world, and would we come
33:16
Speaker 2: together to fight that particular threat.
33:20
Speaker 1: A fourth comment was also revealed by Fred Barnes, the
33:25
Speaker 1: senior editor of the News Republic newspaper, and Fred Barnes
33:32
Speaker 1: overheard President Reagan speaking with Russian Foreign Minister Edward schev Natzi,
33:39
Speaker 1: and President Reagan actually asked Minister shevard Nazi, what would
33:45
Speaker 1: happen if the world faced a quote alien threat from
33:48
Speaker 1: outer space? Don't you think the U S in the
33:52
Speaker 1: Soviet Union would join together? And shevard Nazi replied absolutely yes.
34:00
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a shame that Reagan is pushing
34:04
Speaker 1: forth this alien threat narrative. I wonder about that. It's
34:09
Speaker 1: clear to me that the alien threat is really to
34:13
Speaker 1: the power structure of our own politicians. I don't think
34:17
Speaker 1: the threat is coming from outer space. I think it's
34:20
Speaker 1: coming from right here on Earth. And I will say
34:25
Speaker 1: that there is some reports that Reagan may have had
34:28
Speaker 1: even more extensive contact. This is somewhat hearsay third hand,
34:34
Speaker 1: but according to Lucille Ball and comedian Steve Allen, before
34:39
Speaker 1: even entering politics, Ronald and Nancy Reagan arrived one hour
34:45
Speaker 1: late to a Hollywood party being held by actor William Holden,
34:51
Speaker 1: and Reagan allegedly, I'll underline that told Lucille Ball and
34:56
Speaker 1: Steve Allen that he and Nancy had seen a UFO
34:59
Speaker 1: while driving along the Pacific Coast Highway in southern California.
35:05
Speaker 1: That's interesting to me because this is an area of
35:07
Speaker 1: extremely high UFO contact. This was well before Reagan's first sighting,
35:13
Speaker 1: and according to some accounts on this alleged incident, this
35:17
Speaker 1: object actually landed. However, Reagan never spoke publicly about this
35:23
Speaker 1: at all. Actress Shirley McLane said that Reagan said he
35:27
Speaker 1: had actually met ET's face to face and that they
35:30
Speaker 1: advised him to pursue a career in politics. But again,
35:35
Speaker 1: this aspect of Reagan's UFO contacts is somewhat controversial and
35:41
Speaker 1: has never been confirmed. Moving along, on March five, nineteen
35:46
Speaker 1: seventy seven, an interesting and virtually unknown case involves an
35:53
Speaker 1: unnamed North Dakota State senator and his wife who were
35:58
Speaker 1: allegedly chased by two UFOs outside of Valley City in
36:03
Speaker 1: North Dakota. This report actually comes from a local sheriff
36:08
Speaker 1: who took the senator's report shortly after the incident, and
36:13
Speaker 1: the sheriff men reported the encounter to Bob Gribble at
36:18
Speaker 1: the National UFO Reporting Center. And what I'd like to
36:22
Speaker 1: do now is just play a little audio clip from
36:26
Speaker 1: Newfark in which this sheriff talks about the North Dakota
36:32
Speaker 1: senator's encounter.
36:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the sheriff in Vallacity, North Dakota. Yes, sir, yeah,
36:40
Speaker 3: I was just I talked with a person laugh Saturday night,
36:45
Speaker 3: and he said that he saw some strange objects in
36:49
Speaker 3: the sky over Valla City or in the area of
36:52
Speaker 3: Valla City. I should say, ok, you have a party's name. Yes,
36:57
Speaker 3: he's a state senator, Okay, and uh, he would probably
37:04
Speaker 3: be in w in uh Bismarck, North Dakota the day.
37:06
Speaker 3: He's a senator and they're in session right now. And
37:10
Speaker 3: his wife was with him, so she probably knows something
37:12
Speaker 3: about it too. He says when they left about the
37:16
Speaker 3: Hastings area, there was this ball, just a big ball,
37:21
Speaker 3: like you know, a flame, that followed him all the
37:23
Speaker 3: way to the Outskirts Valley and then they stopped their
37:27
Speaker 3: vehicle and uh, and then his wife says, well, that's
37:31
Speaker 3: a nice one there, but look on the other side
37:33
Speaker 3: of the car, and there was another one on that
37:34
Speaker 3: one was supposed to be changing colors, you know, Okay,
37:39
Speaker 3: when did that occur? Saturday evening?
37:41
Speaker 2: Saturday?
37:42
Speaker 3: Okay, which would be the uh fourth or fifth?
37:47
Speaker 2: Right?
37:49
Speaker 3: Well, sir, we sure appreciate this call. We'll get on this. Yeah,
37:52
Speaker 3: let me know if you find anything, will you all right? Sure,
37:54
Speaker 3: we appreciate the call. Okay, thank you?
37:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So Bob Gribble told the sheriff that he
38:00
Speaker 1: would look into the sighting, but as far as I know,
38:03
Speaker 1: no information has been forthcoming. Another very famous case involving
38:10
Speaker 1: a US leader to see a UFO is none other
38:13
Speaker 1: than Congressman Dennis Kucinich, who is a US representative from Ohio,
38:19
Speaker 1: and he admitted to seeing something he quote could not
38:23
Speaker 1: explain while staying at the home of actress Shirley McLane
38:27
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two in Washington, and in her book
38:33
Speaker 1: Saging While Aging, Shirley McLane basically outed Dennis Kucinich and wrote,
38:41
Speaker 1: and I quote he had a close sighting over my
38:44
Speaker 1: home in Graham, Washington when I lived there. Dennis found
38:49
Speaker 1: his encounter extremely moving. The smell of fresh roses drew
38:53
Speaker 1: him out to my balcony where when he looked up,
38:57
Speaker 1: he saw a gigantic triangular craft, silent and observing him.
39:03
Speaker 1: It hovered soundless for ten minutes or so and sped away.
39:08
Speaker 1: He said he felt a connection in his heart and
39:11
Speaker 1: heard directions in his mind. And during his failed run
39:16
Speaker 1: for the US presidency, Kucinich talked about the sighting admitted
39:20
Speaker 1: that he saw this UFO as he says I did.
39:24
Speaker 1: It was an untidentified flying object. It was something you
39:29
Speaker 1: have to keep in mind. Jimmy Carter saw a UFO,
39:33
Speaker 1: and more recently than his Kucinich did appear on the
39:37
Speaker 1: History Channel and spoke publicly and extensively about his encounter.
39:43
Speaker 1: So he is another pretty highly placed world leader who
39:47
Speaker 1: has come forward to talk about his encounters, and more
39:52
Speaker 1: and more politicians are stepping forward. Another is former Arizona
39:59
Speaker 1: Governor Fife Simington. He was in office during the very
40:04
Speaker 1: famous Phoenix Lights incident in nineteen ninety seven and at
40:09
Speaker 1: first did not reveal that he was in fact a witness,
40:15
Speaker 1: a first hand eye witness. However, after he retired from
40:19
Speaker 1: office and became a pastry chef, he to his credit,
40:23
Speaker 1: did come forward and reveal his own experience with seeing
40:28
Speaker 1: the Phoenix lights, and I'd just like to give a
40:32
Speaker 1: pretty long quote from him, because I think it's important
40:35
Speaker 1: what he says. As Fife Simington says in his own words,
40:40
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven, during my second term as governor
40:44
Speaker 1: of Arizona, I saw something that defied logic and challenged
40:49
Speaker 1: my reality. I witnessed a massive delta shaped craft silently
40:55
Speaker 1: navigate over Squaw Peak, a mountain range in Phoenix, Arizona.
41:00
Speaker 1: Was truly breathtaking. I was absolutely stunned because I was
41:04
Speaker 1: turning to the west looking for the distant Phoenix lights,
41:07
Speaker 1: and to my astonishment, this apparition appeared. This dramatically large,
41:13
Speaker 1: very distinctive leading edge with some enormous lights, was traveling
41:19
Speaker 1: through the Arizona sky. As a pilot and a former
41:23
Speaker 1: Air Force officer, I can definitively say that this craft
41:27
Speaker 1: did not resemble any man made object I've ever seen,
41:32
Speaker 1: and it was certainly not high altitude flares, because flares
41:36
Speaker 1: don't fly in formation. The incident was witnessed by hundreds,
41:40
Speaker 1: if not thousands, of people in Arizona, and my office
41:45
Speaker 1: was besieged with phone calls from very concerned Arizonians. The
41:51
Speaker 1: growing hysteria intensified when the story broke nationally, and I
41:56
Speaker 1: decided to lighten the mood of the state by calling
42:00
Speaker 1: a press conference where my chief of staff arrived in
42:04
Speaker 1: an alien costume. We managed to lessen the sense of panic,
42:09
Speaker 1: but at the same time upset many of my constituents.
42:14
Speaker 1: I would lie. I would now like to set the
42:17
Speaker 1: record straight. I never meant to ridicule anyone. My office
42:23
Speaker 1: did make inquiries as to the origin of the craft,
42:27
Speaker 1: but to this day they remain unanswered. Eventually, the Air
42:32
Speaker 1: Force claimed responsibility, stating that they dropped flares. This is
42:38
Speaker 1: indicative of the attitude from official channels. We get explanations
42:42
Speaker 1: that fly in the face of the facts, explanations like
42:47
Speaker 1: weather balloons, swamp gas, and military flares. I was never
42:52
Speaker 1: happy with the Air Force's silly explanations. There might very
42:56
Speaker 1: well have been military flares in the sky that evening,
43:00
Speaker 1: but what I and hundreds of others saw had nothing
43:04
Speaker 1: to do with that. I now know that I am
43:07
Speaker 1: not alone. There are many high ranking military, aviation, and
43:12
Speaker 1: government officials who share my concerns. While on active duty,
43:17
Speaker 1: they have either witnessed a UFO incident or have conducted
43:20
Speaker 1: the inofficial investigation into UFO cases relevant to aviation safety
43:26
Speaker 1: and national security. By speaking out with me, these people
43:31
Speaker 1: are putting their reputations on the line. They have fought
43:34
Speaker 1: in wars, guarded top secret weapons arsenals, and protected our
43:39
Speaker 1: nation's skies. We want the government to stop putting out
43:44
Speaker 1: stories that perpetuate the myth that all UFOs can be
43:49
Speaker 1: explained away in down to earth conventional terms. Investigations need
43:55
Speaker 1: to be reopened, documents need to be unsealed, and the
43:59
Speaker 1: idea of an open dialogue can no longer be shunned.
44:03
Speaker 1: Incidents like these are not going away. About a year ago,
44:07
Speaker 1: Chicago's o Haare International Airport experienced a UFO event that
44:12
Speaker 1: made national and international headlines. What I saw in the
44:16
Speaker 1: Arizona Sky goes beyond conventional explanations when it comes to
44:21
Speaker 1: the events of this nature that are still completely unsolved.
44:26
Speaker 1: We deserve more openness in government, especially our own. I
44:32
Speaker 1: couldn't agree more so. Those are the US leaders that
44:35
Speaker 1: I was able to find who have come forward with
44:38
Speaker 1: their own first hand cases of UFO contact. But of
44:43
Speaker 1: course the US is not alone with this. Heads of
44:46
Speaker 1: state across the world have joined the ranks of UFO witnesses.
44:50
Speaker 1: So let's go back in time a little bit to
44:53
Speaker 1: July ninth, nineteen fifty two. A gentleman by the name
44:58
Speaker 1: of Oscar Link, who was a major in Hasselback, Germany
45:03
Speaker 1: and the mayor of the town Gleimershausen. He and his
45:08
Speaker 1: daughter Gabriel, who is eleven years old, were taking a
45:13
Speaker 1: motorcycle ride when their motorcycle got a flat tire, so
45:18
Speaker 1: they were walking along and inside the woods, Gabriel noticed
45:23
Speaker 1: two men in quote shiny metallic clothing examining the ground
45:28
Speaker 1: in a clearing near what appeared to be a pink
45:32
Speaker 1: disc shaped object was about thirteen to fifteen meters in
45:36
Speaker 1: diameter and had a double row of openings around the
45:40
Speaker 1: rim portholes and a black turret on top. An Oscar
45:46
Speaker 1: Link said it looked like quote a huge frying pan.
45:51
Speaker 1: So one of the men held out strange box which
45:54
Speaker 1: was flashing lights and link Oscar Link began to approach
46:01
Speaker 1: the object, but his daughter Gabriel cried out in fear,
46:05
Speaker 1: and this actually alerted the figures to their presence, and
46:08
Speaker 1: both of these figures promptly went inside the disc, which
46:12
Speaker 1: began to vibrate, making a loud, humming noise. Then it
46:16
Speaker 1: spun faster and took off, surrounded by a ring of flames.
46:21
Speaker 1: And when they went to see where this object had landed,
46:24
Speaker 1: there were distinct markings on the ground an oscar link. Again,
46:29
Speaker 1: a mayor speculated that perhaps he had seen a secret
46:33
Speaker 1: Soviet military test aircraft. He had no knowledge of UFOs
46:39
Speaker 1: at the time. It was only later that he speculated
46:42
Speaker 1: that perhaps this was in fact a landed UFO and extraterrestrials,
46:48
Speaker 1: and later he learned that there were in fact several
46:51
Speaker 1: other witnesses who had seen what was apparently the same
46:53
Speaker 1: object moving across the sky in the same area, a
46:58
Speaker 1: very unusual case, and again these are occurring all over
47:02
Speaker 1: the world. In nineteen fifty four, France experienced an unprecedented
47:09
Speaker 1: wave of UFO activity, never before seen in their country,
47:14
Speaker 1: and among the witnesses was Monsieur Raoul Laurent, who was
47:20
Speaker 1: at that time the mayor of Saint Dizier. And on
47:24
Speaker 1: the evening of September twenty ninth, nineteen fifty four, Mayor
47:28
Speaker 1: Laurent had just left city hall and looking up in
47:32
Speaker 1: the stormy sky, he observed a brightly glowing, craft shaped,
47:37
Speaker 1: he said, like an elongated cigar, moved upward over the
47:42
Speaker 1: City Hall at a near forty five degree angle. He said,
47:46
Speaker 1: it with several kilometers in altitude, but it moved so
47:50
Speaker 1: quickly it left a luminous trail behind it. So very strange.
47:56
Speaker 1: And here's a case which is not well known, but
48:00
Speaker 1: apparently pretty well verified. And the UFO witness in this
48:04
Speaker 1: case is none other than Fidel Castro, who was the
48:09
Speaker 1: Prime Minister of Cuba from nineteen fifty nine to nineteen
48:12
Speaker 1: seventy six and the President of Cuba from seventy six
48:17
Speaker 1: to two thousand and eight. Prior to becoming prime minister,
48:22
Speaker 1: Fidel Castro fought in the Cuban Revolution of nineteen fifty
48:26
Speaker 1: three to nineteen fifty nine, and it was during this
48:29
Speaker 1: time that Castro said that he and his fellow Cuban
48:33
Speaker 1: soldiers observed an unknown object, which he described as round
48:39
Speaker 1: and enormous. Fidel Castro was interviewed by UFO researcher jose
48:46
Speaker 1: Lewis Jill, and in this interview, Fidel Castro said, I quote,
48:53
Speaker 1: there we were in the middle of the night, with
48:55
Speaker 1: our rifles on our knees. Then we suddenly saw a
48:58
Speaker 1: light among the stars. The light approached the group of
49:02
Speaker 1: commanders and poured over us like a bucket. He told
49:09
Speaker 1: researcher Jose Louis gill and said my quote, it was
49:14
Speaker 1: round and enormous. The countryside and the mountains became illuminated
49:19
Speaker 1: as though it was daylight. So it's a brief case,
49:24
Speaker 1: but if true, it provides yet another example of a
49:27
Speaker 1: major world leader experiencing UFO contact, and it just goes
49:32
Speaker 1: on and on. On August third, twenty thirteen, Iranian politician
49:38
Speaker 1: Hassan Ruhani was sworn in as the seventh president of
49:43
Speaker 1: Iran using Islamic cleric, a lawyer, and a diplomat. But
49:49
Speaker 1: he was president of Iran for eight years until twenty
49:52
Speaker 1: twenty one, and he gave an audio taped interview in
49:58
Speaker 1: June of twenty twenty in which he describes how a
50:01
Speaker 1: UFO landed next to him in nineteen fifty five or
50:05
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty six when he was just a little boy.
50:09
Speaker 1: I'd liked to read a direct quote from President Ruhani,
50:14
Speaker 1: as he says in this interview. I was in the
50:17
Speaker 1: second or third grade. I was about eight or seven.
50:21
Speaker 1: I got out of our house to get to the
50:23
Speaker 1: prayer at the mosque. When I arrived at the mosque yard,
50:28
Speaker 1: I felt as though a spotlight just lit up the
50:30
Speaker 1: whole yard, and I felt that the light was coming
50:32
Speaker 1: from above. I lifted my head and I saw something
50:36
Speaker 1: coming down from above, and as far as I could remember,
50:40
Speaker 1: it was an object with a mass of perhaps one
50:44
Speaker 1: by two by three meters, was completely made of pure light.
50:50
Speaker 1: I couldn't see anything other than the shining light coming
50:53
Speaker 1: from it. And I saw it descend from above and
50:56
Speaker 1: land directly in the mosque yard, and I felt as
51:01
Speaker 1: if this is a vehicle, there are people inside it.
51:05
Speaker 1: It stayed there for a few minutes and then it
51:07
Speaker 1: lifted off again, and when it lifted off, I started
51:10
Speaker 1: following it, even though I was planning on going to
51:14
Speaker 1: the mosque. I saw this thing move on to another
51:17
Speaker 1: mosque that was in the village, which was about three
51:19
Speaker 1: hundred meters apart from the first mosque. I saw this
51:24
Speaker 1: quote howdah, which is a vehicle, land in the other mosque,
51:28
Speaker 1: and I was running in the alley to get to it.
51:32
Speaker 1: And when I got there, I saw it lift up
51:34
Speaker 1: from the mosque yard and ascent into the sky. I
51:38
Speaker 1: was watching it leave, and it left our village and
51:41
Speaker 1: I got back to the mosque, but I had missed
51:44
Speaker 1: the morning prayer. So this is a really startling admission
51:48
Speaker 1: of an actual UFO landing by a president. Very very interesting.
51:56
Speaker 1: And another case comes from the former President of Mexico,
52:00
Speaker 1: Louis Echeveria. He was present of Mexico from nineteen seventy
52:06
Speaker 1: to nineteen seventy six, and Mexican UFO researcher Pedro Ferries
52:12
Speaker 1: interviewed President Echeveria, who told him, quote, I have seen
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Speaker 1: a UFO. It was in nineteen seventy four, during the
52:23
Speaker 1: fourth year of his term, that Echeveria revealed his sighting
52:26
Speaker 1: to a group of broadcasters, and he described his sighting,
52:30
Speaker 1: saying that he and his wife were on the terrace
52:33
Speaker 1: of their home in Quernavaca when they saw a bright,
52:38
Speaker 1: illuminated object what he called quote a mother ship hovering
52:43
Speaker 1: above the horizon. As Echeverio said, the craft didn't move
52:48
Speaker 1: from there. What's interesting because immediately following this sighting, the
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Speaker 1: city of Quernavaca suffered a widespread electrical blackout. Researcher Antonio
53:01
Speaker 1: Hunius researched this incident. It apparently took place on September
53:05
Speaker 1: twenty third, nineteen sixty five. But it turned out that
53:09
Speaker 1: President Echeveria was not the only Mexican government official to
53:13
Speaker 1: see the object. Valentin Lopez Gonzales, the mayor of Quernavaca,
53:20
Speaker 1: and Emilio Riva Palacio, the governor of the state of Morelos,
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Speaker 1: were also among the eyewitnesses, as were several other highly
53:30
Speaker 1: placed military and business leaders. At the time, Echeveria was
53:36
Speaker 1: the Secretary of Interior of Mexico and he had previously
53:40
Speaker 1: held the office of Secretary of Navy and would later,
53:43
Speaker 1: of course become the President of Mexico itself. So a
53:47
Speaker 1: really interesting case and leaders across the world aretseeing UFOs.
53:53
Speaker 1: And a bizarre case occurred in nineteen seventy one, and
53:57
Speaker 1: this involves a president of Uganda. This involves Ugandan military officer,
54:06
Speaker 1: and we now know that this man is Edi Amen.
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Speaker 1: He held office in nineteen seventy nine, and he is
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Speaker 1: considered by many political historians to be one of the
54:20
Speaker 1: most brutal despots in human history. And in fact, it
54:25
Speaker 1: is estimated that somewhere between one hundred thousand to five
54:29
Speaker 1: hundred thousand people were killed under his regime, earning him
54:35
Speaker 1: terrible nicknames such as the Butcher of Africa and Black Hitler. However,
54:41
Speaker 1: he is also allegedly a UFO witness. In nineteen seventy three,
54:46
Speaker 1: while visiting Kampala in Uganda, President Edi Amen observed a
54:52
Speaker 1: strange object surrounded by a smokelike cloud, descend onto the
54:57
Speaker 1: surface of Lake Victoria, where covered for about seven minutes
55:01
Speaker 1: before gracefully lifting off and ascending into the sky again
55:06
Speaker 1: like a gentle rocket. The sighting received an enormous amount
55:11
Speaker 1: of publicity in the country and over the radio. President
55:15
Speaker 1: Ediamine told listeners that this object was of quote great
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Speaker 1: significance and a sign of good luck to Uganda. Many
55:26
Speaker 1: other witnesses also saw the object, and President Amen said
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Speaker 1: that all those who had seen it should attend prayers.
55:36
Speaker 1: So the list of world leaders who have seen UFOs
55:40
Speaker 1: is longer than many people realize. In March of nineteen
55:44
Speaker 1: seventy four, Monsieur Petit, who was then the mayor of Riemonne, France,
55:51
Speaker 1: was one of many people in the small town who
55:54
Speaker 1: saw a UFO. Was around ten thirty PM when many
55:58
Speaker 1: of the residents of saw a shiny orange oval disk
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Speaker 1: hovering overhead, remained motionless for about ten minutes, then moved
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Speaker 1: away bit by bit before disappearing over the horizon. Among
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Speaker 1: the strangest of accounts coming from a world leader, I
56:18
Speaker 1: think is that of Sir Eric Garry, the Prime Minister
56:22
Speaker 1: of the small island country of Granada. Sir Eric Gary
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Speaker 1: was first elected Prime Minister of Granada following its independence
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Speaker 1: from Great Britain, and he was Chief Minister from nineteen
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Speaker 1: sixty one to nineteen sixty two and became Prime Minister
56:38
Speaker 1: of Independent Granada from nineteen sixty seven to nineteen seventy four.
56:46
Speaker 1: And it was during his term that Prime Minister Gary
56:49
Speaker 1: had a dramatic UFO encounter. This account was first published
56:55
Speaker 1: in UFO Digest and was written by Wesley by eight
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Speaker 1: men who interviewed Eric Gary firsthand. As the story goes,
57:07
Speaker 1: Eric Gary was allegedly taking grievances from local citizens and
57:11
Speaker 1: was approached by a fisherman who said that he came
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Speaker 1: upon a strange craft and a deceased et body which
57:19
Speaker 1: had actually washed up upon the shore of the small
57:23
Speaker 1: island country. Eric Gary and a small group of his
57:27
Speaker 1: associates traveled to the location were amazed to see a
57:31
Speaker 1: giant humanoid body almost eight feet tall. It had a
57:36
Speaker 1: pale white complexion, long white braided hair, and six fingers
57:41
Speaker 1: on each hand. It wore a skin tight blue one
57:46
Speaker 1: piece suit much like a scuba diver, and surrounding the
57:50
Speaker 1: body was actually a metallic wreckage of various shapes and sizes,
57:55
Speaker 1: including about eight metal containers, and when opened, these containers
58:01
Speaker 1: were found to hold various specimens from the area, including fish,
58:07
Speaker 1: plant life, coral and sand. Gary and his group gathered
58:12
Speaker 1: the wreckage and the body and moved it to the
58:15
Speaker 1: local medical college, where they remained until allegedly being taken
58:20
Speaker 1: following the US invasion of Granada in nineteen eighty three.
58:26
Speaker 1: So as prior to this, and apparently as the result
58:29
Speaker 1: of his encounter, that Prime Minister Gary entreated the United
58:34
Speaker 1: Nations to form a UFO study organization. He began pushing
58:39
Speaker 1: for this in nineteen seventy six, but his speech in
58:43
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight is probably best remembered, as he spoke
58:47
Speaker 1: about attempting to contact ets, how to do it, and
58:52
Speaker 1: the implications of open official contact for all of humanity.
58:58
Speaker 1: This proposal ultimately was not found, and later Britain released
59:03
Speaker 1: a statement which said, and I quote, the British delegation
59:07
Speaker 1: does not think that the establishment of an agency for
59:10
Speaker 1: research into unidentified flying objects is appropriate to the functions
59:16
Speaker 1: of the United Nations. Hopefully a confrontation with the representatives
59:22
Speaker 1: of Granada can be avoided, but the UK, the UK
59:27
Speaker 1: should not hesitate to make its views known as and
59:31
Speaker 1: when appropriate. I could not disagree more. I think the
59:35
Speaker 1: United Nations is absolutely appropriate to research UFOs and the
59:42
Speaker 1: extraterrestrial presence. But the UK did not agree, and this
59:46
Speaker 1: did not go well. Was during the meeting at the
59:49
Speaker 1: United Nations that Prime Minister Gary said, and I quote,
59:54
Speaker 1: I know that flying saucers exist because I myself saw
59:58
Speaker 1: one three years ago, so that would be nineteen seventy five.
1:00:03
Speaker 1: And as he continues, UN diplomats will not think I
1:00:07
Speaker 1: am crazy for saying so, I am convinced that persons
1:00:12
Speaker 1: from outer space are studying us, or perhaps living among
1:00:16
Speaker 1: us as earthlings. So it was Sir Eric Gary's push
1:00:21
Speaker 1: for openness on the subject of UFOs and extraterrestrials that
1:00:24
Speaker 1: may have actually led to his downfall, because it was
1:00:27
Speaker 1: one year later, in nineteen seventy nine, that a British
1:00:31
Speaker 1: lawyer by the name of Maurice Bishop enacted a hostile
1:00:35
Speaker 1: takeover of the government of Grenada, actually deposed Sir Eric
1:00:41
Speaker 1: Gary and forcibly seized control of the country. Following this,
1:00:47
Speaker 1: Gary went to the United States and was allegedly closely
1:00:50
Speaker 1: surveilled by the NSA. Ultimately, the only lasting result was
1:00:56
Speaker 1: that nineteen seventy eight became known as the Year of
1:00:59
Speaker 1: the UFO and led to the creation of four UFO
1:01:03
Speaker 1: themed postal stamps. Mind you, the island of Granada is
1:01:08
Speaker 1: less than one hundred thirty five square miles, and the
1:01:11
Speaker 1: official reason for the u s invasion of this tiny
1:01:15
Speaker 1: country in nineteen eighty three was the threat allegedly posed
1:01:20
Speaker 1: to American nationals by coincidence or not, particularly students at
1:01:27
Speaker 1: the medical college there, which was coincidentally the alleged resting
1:01:32
Speaker 1: place of the e t artifacts and body. So I
1:01:37
Speaker 1: think there's probably a connection there. That's pure speculation, but
1:01:40
Speaker 1: it seems odd that this tiny little country would be
1:01:43
Speaker 1: worth invading at any rate. There are other world leaders
1:01:48
Speaker 1: who have seen UFOs, such as Fernando Enrique Cardosa. He
1:01:55
Speaker 1: was the president of Brazil from nineteen ninety five to
1:01:58
Speaker 1: two thousand and three, and back in nineteen seventy nine,
1:02:02
Speaker 1: Cardoso was taking a taxi ride along the coast to
1:02:05
Speaker 1: the city of Siarra, Brazil, with his wife Ruth and
1:02:10
Speaker 1: the Brazilian ambassador, Celso Fertado, and during the drive, Cardosa
1:02:17
Speaker 1: and Fertado both spotted a glowing object hovering over the ocean.
1:02:22
Speaker 1: They first thought it was a helicopter until it suddenly
1:02:25
Speaker 1: moved vertically and then horizontally at high speed. Cardoso's wife
1:02:31
Speaker 1: didn't see the object, which moved rapidly away, but at
1:02:34
Speaker 1: the time of his sighting, Cardoso's political career had just
1:02:39
Speaker 1: become and he was about to become a senator in
1:02:42
Speaker 1: Sao Paolo. Later, Celso Furtado gave an interview revealing the sighting.
1:02:48
Speaker 1: Just a few years later, and only recently as former
1:02:53
Speaker 1: president Cardoso talked about this sighting and during an interview
1:02:58
Speaker 1: on Brazilian television, he absolutely confirmed this sighting, saying, I
1:03:04
Speaker 1: quote me an Selso saw the flying disc. So again,
1:03:10
Speaker 1: I am not sure if this is a coincidence. I
1:03:12
Speaker 1: think these world leaders are being presented with an opportunity
1:03:17
Speaker 1: to do the right thing and are being given direct
1:03:20
Speaker 1: contact intentionally here's another case from the president of the
1:03:25
Speaker 1: Republic of Kalmikia in Russia. This was from nineteen ninety
1:03:30
Speaker 1: three to twenty ten that Kirsan Ilyamzinov was President of
1:03:36
Speaker 1: the Republic of Kalmikia and in a television interview he
1:03:41
Speaker 1: revealed that he was actually visited by ETS on September eighteen,
1:03:46
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven, that he was pulled from his apartment
1:03:50
Speaker 1: in Moscow actually onto a spacecraft where he communicated face
1:03:55
Speaker 1: to face with extraterrestrials wearing yellow jumpsuits, and as Kirsan
1:04:02
Speaker 1: says in his own words, I believe I talked to
1:04:05
Speaker 1: them and saw them. I perhaps wouldn't believe it if
1:04:09
Speaker 1: it wasn't for three witnesses, my driver, my minister, and
1:04:13
Speaker 1: my assistant. During his televised interview, he elaborated and said,
1:04:20
Speaker 1: I was taken from my apartment in Moscow to this
1:04:23
Speaker 1: spaceship and we went to some star and after that
1:04:27
Speaker 1: I asked them, please bring me back. There are people
1:04:31
Speaker 1: like us. They have the same mind, the same vision.
1:04:35
Speaker 1: I talked with them, and I understand that we are
1:04:37
Speaker 1: not alone in this world. We are not unique. I'm
1:04:41
Speaker 1: not a crazy man. But after I gave the first
1:04:44
Speaker 1: interview to Radio Freedom in Russia. Thousands, not hundreds, thousands
1:04:50
Speaker 1: of people wrote me letters and called me on the
1:04:52
Speaker 1: phone saying, oh, Kirsan, you are a politician and you
1:04:57
Speaker 1: are not afraid to talk about it. It was not
1:05:00
Speaker 1: in our Russian space vehicles, but with aliens. They came
1:05:04
Speaker 1: in a flying saucer, picked me up, and I spent
1:05:08
Speaker 1: a whole day in outer space. It was from my
1:05:12
Speaker 1: apartment they flew in and picked me up. They were
1:05:15
Speaker 1: wearing yellow space suits. I remember this moment exactly. We
1:05:20
Speaker 1: went off to their interplanetary ship and I started to
1:05:24
Speaker 1: feel a lack of air, a lack of oxygen. They
1:05:27
Speaker 1: gave me a space suit as well. One of the
1:05:30
Speaker 1: aliens pointed to his chest and indicated that the oxygen
1:05:34
Speaker 1: supply could be regulated by turning a dial. So this
1:05:37
Speaker 1: is what I did. The ship was absolutely enormous. One
1:05:43
Speaker 1: of its chambers was the size of a large football pitch.
1:05:47
Speaker 1: We landed on one of the planets and picked up
1:05:50
Speaker 1: some piece of equipment. They told me everything in detail.
1:05:54
Speaker 1: I asked them to take me back to Earth as
1:05:56
Speaker 1: quickly as possible because in two days I had to
1:06:00
Speaker 1: Youth government week they brought me back and everything was
1:06:04
Speaker 1: normal again. A few days later, I was talking and
1:06:08
Speaker 1: thinking why did they take me? And I was cursing
1:06:12
Speaker 1: myself for not asking them any questions. But it is
1:06:15
Speaker 1: possible that it is still not time for us to
1:06:18
Speaker 1: meet these extraterrestrial civilizations. So the Russian government showed quite
1:06:24
Speaker 1: a bit of interest in this, and in a statement
1:06:28
Speaker 1: to the Huffington Post, former Mouffon director Jan Harzen writes,
1:06:34
Speaker 1: Kirsan Ilyumzenov is one Russian politician who publicly discussed UFOs,
1:06:41
Speaker 1: and culturally it apparently was not a disaster. Whether he's
1:06:45
Speaker 1: outspoken about UFOs from experience or just for publicity and attention,
1:06:50
Speaker 1: we don't know, but it's rather unusual when you compare
1:06:54
Speaker 1: him to American politicians. Here in the US, it is
1:06:59
Speaker 1: still political disaster for a politician to discuss UFOs from
1:07:04
Speaker 1: a personal point of view. So the Russian officials were
1:07:09
Speaker 1: not happy about this, and again they took a story
1:07:12
Speaker 1: very seriously, and in fact, Andre Lebedev of the Russian
1:07:17
Speaker 1: Parliament wrote a letter to the President of Russia Dmitri Medvedev,
1:07:24
Speaker 1: demanding that Ilyyamzenov submit to a state interrogation to reveal
1:07:30
Speaker 1: any information he shared with the ETS. So there you go.
1:07:36
Speaker 1: That's a long list of world leaders who have come
1:07:38
Speaker 1: forward and talked firsthand about their own UFO encounters. And
1:07:45
Speaker 1: while it's a pretty long list, I expect you could
1:07:48
Speaker 1: times it by ten or one hundred, because the vast
1:07:51
Speaker 1: majority of people do not talk about their sightings. And
1:07:56
Speaker 1: I bet this is especially true for people who hold
1:07:59
Speaker 1: polite office, because, as we have seen, it's usually not
1:08:04
Speaker 1: to a politician's benefit to go public with their encounters.
1:08:08
Speaker 1: Some have bravely done so and not suffered negative consequences,
1:08:13
Speaker 1: but some certainly have. Francis Barwood was a city councilwoman
1:08:18
Speaker 1: in really the only one holding office of any level
1:08:22
Speaker 1: who talked publicly about the Phoenix Lights of nineteen ninety seven.
1:08:27
Speaker 1: She didn't even see them, she hadn't seen a UFO,
1:08:30
Speaker 1: and yet she was mercilessly ridiculed by the press and
1:08:33
Speaker 1: eventually lost her seat as a city councilwoman. And there's
1:08:39
Speaker 1: another case involving a Florida politician by the name of
1:08:43
Speaker 1: Bettina Rodriguez, and in twenty eighteen she ran for Congress
1:08:49
Speaker 1: and was doing quite well. She was recommended by several
1:08:52
Speaker 1: newspapers as the leading candidate from her state, and yet
1:08:57
Speaker 1: then she went public with her her firsthand experiences with
1:09:02
Speaker 1: et contact human looking ets, and her campaign spiraled downward
1:09:08
Speaker 1: from there. And certainly when Dennis Kucinich talked about his
1:09:13
Speaker 1: sighting during a presidential campaign, this did not appear to
1:09:18
Speaker 1: help his campaign at all. So I think it could
1:09:22
Speaker 1: be tantamount to political suicide to come forward, or used
1:09:28
Speaker 1: to be. But now is the time for truth and
1:09:30
Speaker 1: transparency on this subject. There's no more room for lies
1:09:37
Speaker 1: when it comes to UFOs. People need to tell the truth,
1:09:41
Speaker 1: and I think especially our world leaders need to gather
1:09:46
Speaker 1: their courage and just talk about this truthly and transparently.
1:09:52
Speaker 1: I did cover all of these cases in my book
1:09:56
Speaker 1: Not from Here, Volume four, so if you'd like to
1:10:00
Speaker 1: learn more about it, yeah, check that out. I think
1:10:03
Speaker 1: you might enjoy it. But until next time, I really
1:10:08
Speaker 1: appreciate you watching and keep asking questions, keep searching for
1:10:14
Speaker 1: the truth, and most important, keep having fun.