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- 0:00Well, I guess Anpan, do you have a Are you on a time crunch
- 0:04tonight? Yeah, I wouldn't mind going
- 0:07first. I'll try and quake.
- 0:10I know you already did a spaces, that was good.
- 0:11Yeah, yeah. But if anyone wants a deep dive,
- 0:13they should listen to that too. Yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll link
- 0:17that. But then I was just going to
- 0:19before you get started and just I'm going to cut it off at 30
- 0:21minutes. So we had and at Rockalab this
- 0:24is for everybody's aware and then at the end at the 60 minute
- 0:26mark or so we can open it up for question comments on anything.
- 0:30Just so trying to keep it semi for fair tonight because I know
- 0:33there's a lot of people want to talk about both general.
- 0:36With that, no, not floors. Floors yours, Sir.
- 0:39Yeah. So just re just go to the other
- 0:41space and then that's it done. Yeah, just just quickly and feel
- 0:49free if people have questions to just post them below or you can
- 0:53come up as well. But yeah, ESD announcer earnings
- 0:58today or sorry, yesterday they, they had the first quarter of
- 1:03material revenue, which was about I think it was $15 million
- 1:07and they reiterated that they're guiding towards 50 to 75 million
- 1:14of total revenue for the second-half of this year.
- 1:16So that means this coming fourth quarter, it's going to be 35
- 1:21million to 50 million of which most of that is going to be or I
- 1:25think it's going to be like $10 million of gateway sales.
- 1:27And then the rest of or the balance of that is revenue from
- 1:35government will really work that that they're recognizing.
- 1:38And so, so yeah, I mean, given this the state of where the
- 1:43company is right now, you know, the financial results really
- 1:46aren't that important at this point in time.
- 1:49However, just going through the quarter, I think I'll just
- 1:53briefly go through this and I just bought my old tweet, but
- 1:56key takeaways are that you know, they for the first time
- 2:00disclosed a billion dollars in aggregate contracted revenue
- 2:04commitments, which is a a really big deal.
- 2:06And that's all from commercial partners.
- 2:08I think there's speculation that a majority that is from Saudi
- 2:11Telecom which is the $1.8 billion ten year contract that
- 2:16they announced or definitive agreement they announced last
- 2:19week. A little nugget for everybody
- 2:22for what it's worth. I did catch up with management
- 2:25and that $1.8 billion the way it was characterized is that that
- 2:31number it'd be a disappointment if if they're not well over that
- 2:35number. So I guess what's unclear though
- 2:38is what are what are the minimums of that contract
- 2:42because there there is minimums across 10 years.
- 2:45And so and as we know 175,000,000 of that contract is
- 2:50being prepaid as revenue which they disclosed yesterday will be
- 2:54paid before your end. And so that's that's a nice
- 2:58inflow of cash. But yeah, that that 1 billion in
- 3:02aggregate or over 1 billion, that's the first time they
- 3:04disclose that number. And so what's nice is that
- 3:07that's a real tangible number that people can either had on.
- 3:12It's also good from a a debt funding perspective because they
- 3:17can, you know, go out and raise some quantum of capital from
- 3:22debt that would be, you know, basically backed by that 1
- 3:27billion in aggregate contracted revenue.
- 3:29Now, you know, could you raise $200 million off of that or 100
- 3:33million or 300 who knows? I mean, it really depends on how
- 3:37solid that number is. But but anyway, it does open up
- 3:40another potential funding Ave. and then, you know, the company
- 3:44also announced that they got their 9th contract award from
- 3:48the US government even during the shutdown.
- 3:52And they're expecting to hash out those details.
- 3:56And you know, I guess we'll learn more once the government's
- 3:58open. But but that's another, you
- 4:01know, positive thing that came from the call.
- 4:04Also in terms of manufacturing, I think we all know now that the
- 4:10control bus is the key critical path item.
- 4:13They've, they've made I think enough microns which are the
- 4:17solar panels on one side and antenna element, antenna
- 4:21elements on the other side. They've made-up to I think it's
- 4:2419 satellites worth and they're expecting to get to 40
- 4:28satellites worth by early 2026. And as we all know, BB7BB6 are
- 4:36already been shipped to India. It's waiting to launch.
- 4:39They they gave a hard time for now, which is the first half of
- 4:42December and then BB7. They also disclosed that that
- 4:48will be shipped this November. And so whether that's a week or
- 4:53two weeks from now that'll be sent to the Cape and where they
- 4:57expect that will go on top of a new sorry space second nine
- 5:04rocket and which is probably going to happen in December.
- 5:08Anyway, back to production. The new, you know, control set,
- 5:12which is the center, which is the, the, the hockey puck shaped
- 5:19center or not center. Now it's actually off center,
- 5:21but what that controls the brains of the satellite.
- 5:24And then also where the it's where the this the microns fold
- 5:28out from. That is the kind of critical
- 5:31path item right now. And so they've shifted from
- 5:33making two metal ones, which is BB6 and BB7.
- 5:38Now they're shifting manufacturing to composite
- 5:41materials, which is I think carbon, primarily carbon fiber.
- 5:45And so in the presentation yesterday we saw pictures of
- 5:49three of those in production and, and the company disclosed
- 5:52that they've got, let's see, they've got satellite #8 through
- 6:008 through 19 in, in various stages of production.
- 6:03And so, so yeah, they're, they're a little, they're about
- 6:06a one month behind BB8 through 10.
- 6:10And then eventually they do plan to catch up by the February,
- 6:14March time frame to the original time plan of deployment.
- 6:17And So what that means is I think we'll see two launches
- 6:22this year, BB6 going up in November or sorry, early
- 6:25December, BB7 going up in second-half of December.
- 6:29And then you'll see probably 2 batches of three launched by
- 6:35SpaceX Falcon 9 in January. And then by the time February
- 6:39rolls around, we'll have caught up and, and maybe we'll see our
- 6:41first new Glen launch. But anyhow, but yeah, the
- 6:45company is still targeting 6 satellites of production per
- 6:48month by the end of 2025. And let's see here 11.
- 6:55Interesting thing to note and I've tweeted about this so I
- 6:57won't go into detail, but they did disclose that they've been
- 7:02working on an AI engine that will be running on the AST 5000
- 7:08ASIC chip. And so that AI engine will help,
- 7:12you know, I think it was be right that had a note today or
- 7:16gave a little bit more specificity that that specific
- 7:21AI engine will help increase capacity of Bluebird satellites
- 7:25by two to three times, which is kind of crazy if you think about
- 7:29it. But I think through managing the
- 7:32power and satellite capacity, you know, doing that dynamically
- 7:37where you need, being able to, I guess shift processing power to
- 7:42areas of high demand and then using and reusing spectrum more
- 7:47efficiently. They expect to increase the
- 7:51capacity of these satellites by two to three times, which is
- 7:56something new that that was released yesterday.
- 7:59And then I guess let me just look here through here, they did
- 8:04disclose that in the US they'll have 80 megahertz of deployable
- 8:07spectrum that includes 40 to 45 ish of of L band spectrum from
- 8:14the Legato transaction. And then the rest of the balance
- 8:17is going to be coming from AT&T and Verizon, which I think first
- 8:21that is going to provide about 20 of that if I'm not mistaken.
- 8:25I think it's 10 by 10 and so 80 megahertz overall though that's
- 8:30that's a lot of capacity. And so I think that's going to
- 8:34be or that is a good time for the type of service we should
- 8:37expect from AST in the US through AT&T or Verizon, because
- 8:42that's, you know, with that amount of spectrum, they're
- 8:45going to be able to deliver a pretty robust broadband service.
- 8:49And so, so yeah, that that's a quick overview.
- 8:53There's a bit, there's a bunch more stuff that I went through
- 8:56in a in 1/4 post, which I think you'll you'll post.
- 8:59And then I also had a space this morning, but I'll just pause
- 9:01there. Don't know if anyone had any
- 9:03questions. No, it sounds like they had a,
- 9:05you know, they have a lot going on.
- 9:07They're making good progress. Do we know if there's any update
- 9:11on the satellite going to Florida?
- 9:14Yeah. So they said that they expect
- 9:17BD-7 to be completed this month and shipped this month.
- 9:21And so I think it's going to be, my guess, it's going to be
- 9:25probably in two weeks or so. And then that means if it takes
- 9:30call it 30 days to integrate the satellite into, you know, the
- 9:35Falcon 9 fairing, then I think that's probably you're probably
- 9:39looking at like second-half of December.
- 9:43And so I think what we'll see is 2 launches in December, the
- 9:46first two weeks on Israel and then the last two weeks on
- 9:49Falcon 9. Cool.
- 9:51You'll have to keep keep everyone in here updated on
- 9:55which Waffle House we're meeting at for the business launch.
- 9:59Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, there's there's this very specific
- 10:02Waffle House. There's also this restaurant
- 10:05that serves, you know, just plain American food it but it
- 10:08has a outdoor deck area that overlooks the whole launch area.
- 10:13It's called Shiloh's and so we had a big meet up there last
- 10:16time and. And hopefully if, if the the
- 10:19timing is right, I'll be able to make it down there and you know,
- 10:21we can all hang out. Nice Christmas launch well,
- 10:28Christmas party hopefully a little before that.
- 10:33Hey, so you you've mentioned this in your in both your spaces
- 10:37last night and this morning, although the one last night was
- 10:40has been disappeared from the Internet, but you mentioned that
- 10:44the they were looking. This is just because I'm a rock
- 10:47in there. You were they were mentioned
- 10:49that looking at other for the had other launch providers
- 10:52further down the line post 2026 and yeah that's the Mitsubishi
- 10:55rocket the new one that they'd come out with.
- 10:57I don't know what the name of it is, but the big solid rocket
- 11:00booster one that they they just launched.
- 11:02Yeah, yeah, that. So that, that was a new
- 11:08disclosure. I, I remember I you're talking
- 11:11with, with Scott was new ski at the Block 1 launch just asking
- 11:18about, you know, launch capacity and constraint.
- 11:22And he had mentioned that, you know, there were, there were
- 11:25more options than than people, I guess people like us are
- 11:30generally aware of. And so I, I yesterday Abel
- 11:36taught in, in the company, you know, the company has discussed
- 11:41about, you know, has discussed the launch market being
- 11:43constrained in 2025 and then getting slightly better in 2026.
- 11:47And then and then supposedly 2027 is when the floodgates kind
- 11:51of open up. And you know that that time you
- 11:53make sense. If you think about like Rocket
- 11:55Lab, for example, you know, perhaps Neutron by then will be
- 11:59pretty robust, hopefully knock on wood and, and we'll have a
- 12:02few launches under its belt. But I think the Bell also
- 12:07discussed or or mentioned very specifically, he said MHI, which
- 12:11is the acronym for Mitsubishi Heavy Industries.
- 12:15And so doing a Japanese launch would make some sense just given
- 12:19that Rakuten is, is an important investor and strategic partner.
- 12:23And so launching a satellite from Japan would be, I think,
- 12:29you know, from a political standpoint and then also
- 12:32commercial standpoint would make a lot of sense.
- 12:34But that the H3, which is the rocket that he's probably
- 12:38referring to, is there is there a medium lift rocket or I guess
- 12:42it's their heavy lift rocket because they you know, that
- 12:45that's the most powerful one that they have.
- 12:46But it comes in configurations of two solid rocket boosters or
- 12:51four. And then there were some design,
- 12:53you know, plans for six, but I haven't I think that might have
- 12:57got scrapped. But but the four SRB actually
- 13:01has similar lift capacity of 16,000 kilograms to lower the
- 13:06orbit as Falcon 9. And then I think a reusable
- 13:10Falcon 9 is somewhere on the order of 60 to $70 million,
- 13:16whereas I think the Mitsubishi, and this is where I, I don't
- 13:20really know what the information if it's, if it's correct or not,
- 13:23But based off of some research that I did, it looked like that
- 13:27rocket is like $50 million, although that doesn't, you know,
- 13:30I'm kind of questioning how it can be cheaper than than a
- 13:34Falcon 9. But anyway, at least that's an
- 13:36alternative out there that, you know, has similar capacity.
- 13:39And they did launch a, a satellite back in October.
- 13:45And so I think that was like October 26th.
- 13:47So for anyone interested, you can go on YouTube and, and see
- 13:51that rocket's performance, which was pretty cool.
- 13:54As we all know, like the Rockets, like Israel, LVM three
- 13:58also has solid rocket boosters. But for all these, these, you
- 14:02know, rockets have SRBS like they jump off the launchpad
- 14:04pretty quickly. So they're fun to watch.
- 14:06But but yeah, the company mentioned that and so I assume
- 14:10they must be talking to Mitsubishi and and perhaps that
- 14:14could be another alternative to add to the stable.
- 14:20Sweet. I love.
- 14:21Rockets, I don't know, that's cool.
- 14:23I mean it's good. It's cool to see the, I mean,
- 14:25this is what we all hope for is that the, the launch industry is
- 14:28starting to like start to pick up so that all these other, you
- 14:31know, satellites that are good that are all all wait, I mean
- 14:34launch still the constraining factor across the whole
- 14:37industry. So it's cool to see more
- 14:40participation for other companies.
- 14:41And then even, you know, seeing something like STS looking at an
- 14:44alternatives to the ones that already had stated, I don't
- 14:47know, it's good. It's good that they're being
- 14:49agile with it. Sorry, I was a bunch of Adlet
- 14:52because I was reading this question.
- 14:54So I've got a question I got with Jacob in there and it says
- 14:57will E constellation be separate constellation or will it be part
- 15:01of the 100 plus satellites? I think he's referring to the S
- 15:05here if two possibly thing. Well, he must be asking a
- 15:09question which was also asked by a research analyst.
- 15:12And so when AST made the announcement around the Sacco JV
- 15:16last week, it it talked about having dedicated satellites for
- 15:20Europe, the European market only.
- 15:22But then the company did clarify yesterday during Q&A that it's
- 15:27not going to be a separate constellation, but it will be a
- 15:30dedicated portion of the constellation.
- 15:32So I assume that means that when those satellites are flying over
- 15:36Europe, they'll be, you know, solely under the control of the
- 15:41Sacco JV. Yeah, there's going to be a
- 15:43operation center based out of Germany.
- 15:45And then the HQ will be in in Luxembourg and they'll have a
- 15:49kill switch. And, you know, they'll be
- 15:50controlling satellites from Europe.
- 15:53And the data that originates from Europe will also land in
- 15:56Europe. And, and so for all intensive
- 15:59purposes, that will be a, you know, a, a European solution.
- 16:05But then the constellation overall will continue to serve
- 16:09the rest of, you know, the globe and but but within I think and
- 16:13this is just my speculation, but when it's over Europe, it's
- 16:16going to be fully controlled by your Europeans.
- 16:18And so I think that's what the question is being asked for
- 16:21them. Also around Iris 2, which is
- 16:24the, you know, that that was awarded I think in 2024, it's
- 16:30the equivalent of Starlink, but for Europe.
- 16:32And there's three European players, SES, Yodelsat and
- 16:36Histasat that are part of that consortium.
- 16:39And, you know, they're currently working on that.
- 16:42Who knows, you know, how far they'll get and, and how
- 16:45successful it'll be. But there are two distinct parts
- 16:48of that award, which is 1 is fixed broadband, which is what,
- 16:53you know, Starling does today and what Kuiper's planning to do
- 16:55eventually. But then the other part is
- 16:57direct to device, where I think that one's a little more
- 17:01open-ended. And even though the award for
- 17:04the contract was given already, you know that concession, the
- 17:08directed device specifically says that it will be led by MN
- 17:12OS. And so interestingly, if you
- 17:15look at how AC Space Mobile, you know, does business and how the
- 17:19SAPCO JV is structured and how there's MN OS from 21 of 27
- 17:23member states that are very signed up.
- 17:25Yesterday when Scott was asked about if they could get some of
- 17:28that award or if they won, won some of it, he kind of deflected
- 17:33and said we're not going to talk about things that they've won or
- 17:37some or he, he says it was like some weird, the way he responded
- 17:41was a little odd. And so it led me to believe that
- 17:45perhaps they're in a good position.
- 17:46I, I wouldn't say like they've necessarily won it, but but
- 17:50they're doing all the right things to get that contract.
- 17:53And then just as importantly, when the two gigahertz MSS
- 17:59spectrum comes up for reallocation in May of 2027, I
- 18:04think I think AC is going to be very well positioned with, with
- 18:08Vodafone to get an allocation of what's likely.
- 18:11And we've started to do some research around how that's going
- 18:14to be allocated. There's, there's 30 by 30
- 18:17megahertz to be allocated. And I think my guess is AC and
- 18:21Vodafone are ever going to get 10 by 10 and then they'll
- 18:25probably give out 10 by 10 to somebody else.
- 18:27And then the other the last time by 10.
- 18:29They'll probably, you know, allocate that to a shared IoT
- 18:32type of usage. But one interesting thing to
- 18:37know is that Global Star this past week, they, they did say
- 18:43that the, the previous license holders, you know, they're that
- 18:47they're probably, and I don't think they're talking about
- 18:49Biosat. They're talking very
- 18:50specifically about Echostar. They were, they were hinting
- 18:53that there's a high chance that Echostar won't get that license
- 18:56again because they basically sat on it for 18 years and did
- 18:59nothing with it. And so, so yeah, I think, I
- 19:02think SpaceX when they bought Echo Star, they are going to,
- 19:06they're obviously getting the the spectrum in the in the US,
- 19:08but then all the other stuff is kind of in question just given
- 19:12their stewardship of the spectrum, the Aspen spectrum
- 19:15that they were allocated in various parts around the world.
- 19:18And so another thing that I was thinking about today, which I
- 19:21didn't mention in the other spaces because I, I candidly
- 19:24didn't think about it, but that's Acex Echostar
- 19:29transaction. They've given a timeline because
- 19:32the regulatory view, for whatever reasons, could be
- 19:34really long. They don't expect that deal to
- 19:36close until late 2027. And so for SpaceX and Echostar
- 19:43to go to EU regulators while the US is still reviewing that
- 19:48transaction, it's going to be a little weird, right?
- 19:51Because Echostar's going to say, hey, I want this spectrum
- 19:53allocation. It's actually for me, because at
- 19:55that point Echostar won't know if the deal is fully closed or
- 19:59not. And so they're going to have to
- 20:01go back as themselves to go get the reallocation.
- 20:04And then the EU is going to say, well, you guys didn't do
- 20:06anything with it, so why should we give it to you again?
- 20:08And then SpaceX is going to say, Hey, we're we're buying them.
- 20:11We're in the middle of this regulatory review, but we
- 20:12promise we're going to deploy it properly.
- 20:14And then and then the EU is going to say, well, who, who who
- 20:18owns SpaceX or Starlink? And then, oh, there's this guy
- 20:21Elon Musk. And then you know that that kind
- 20:23of much water a bit. So anyway, yeah, I think I think
- 20:28the company is quite well positioned to get an allocation
- 20:31of two gigahertz spectrum. I think another 10 by 10
- 20:33probably goes to this IRIS, you know, consortium, but who knows
- 20:37like if they're to be able to pull it off.
- 20:39And so I think as Katzie says, spectrum over time typically
- 20:44finds its way to is the best use.
- 20:46And I think that in of itself is is going to be, you know, with
- 20:51the Vodafone AST Space Mobile JB.
- 20:59Did they answer your? Questions.
- 21:01I hope so. I it wasn't mine.
- 21:03It was from somebody in the well.
- 21:05Another Jacob, right? Yeah, with AK.
- 21:08Jacob, sorry, I'm not making about your name.
- 21:12Sorry. I'm looking.
- 21:13OK. There's this other thing that I
- 21:14saw pop up recently, but I can't find it.
- 21:16And you probably remember if I tell you.
- 21:18Oh, here it is. All right.
- 21:19Iridium and Vodafone IoT. There was this was just over a
- 21:25week ago mate. Did you see something?
- 21:27I know this is not earnings related, but I was curious if
- 21:29you if you saw that and I was going to ask for the last week,
- 21:32but I think we. Were yeah yeah yeah vote
- 21:34Vodafone they announced A partnership with Iridium for
- 21:37their narrowband IoT service because you know that's that
- 21:41Iridium runs today and so I think as a as a kind of filling
- 21:48the filling gap measure there they they they're utilizing
- 21:52Iridium's network for initial IoT services until, you know
- 21:57they are able to get the the constellation up with AST.
- 22:00But you know the good thing about Iridium is that it does
- 22:02have global L band spectrum. It is limited.
- 22:05It's like 8 megahertz of up and down combined.
- 22:09But but yeah, that's, that's, I mean, if you're going to run a
- 22:13global IoT network and you're tracking assets that are not
- 22:17over land or areas of, of pressural spectrum coverage,
- 22:22then that's a good way to go. But yeah, that was announced.
- 22:26I think it was like Thursday or Friday, but yeah, sweet.
- 22:35There was an OK, so one other thing that I, I heard and that
- 22:38this is my just pure lack of knowledge on this stuff.
- 22:41When you said, when you're saying 1 billion of committed
- 22:43revenue, is that based off of like usage?
- 22:46Like well, however they define usage, I don't think it'll be a
- 22:49per MB whatever usage. But however they decide like how
- 22:52many customers signed up? Like is that money based on the
- 22:57service going into like, you know, beta and then actual
- 23:00service? And then that money is lined up
- 23:02saying, hey, we're going to at least pay the MN OS, saying
- 23:05we're going to at least pay you this much.
- 23:06Is that what it like is what it's signify or what is that $1
- 23:09billion number? What is actually?
- 23:11What do those payments actually reflect?
- 23:13So I think there my guess and they didn't give you know full,
- 23:19they didn't give details, but it includes all the revenue
- 23:22prepayments. And so Vodafone I think is at 20
- 23:27and 18, TS at 25 or I might have those switched Verizon's at 65
- 23:32and then and then you know Saudi Telecom's at 175.
- 23:37And so those are prepaid revenues and those are
- 23:40creditable against future service.
- 23:42And so they pay the company and there's some milestones
- 23:45associated with too, but they, they give them a company money
- 23:48today. And then once the service is
- 23:50turned on and your users use it and based off of how ever
- 23:54they're, they're calculating those metrics, then they'll just
- 23:57get a credit against that revenue they already paid until
- 24:00all that's used up. And then, and then they'll,
- 24:02yeah, then they'll obviously start paying the company
- 24:05directly for whatever is used. And I don't know if it's going
- 24:09to be I, I think because it's a 5050 revenue share, it's going
- 24:13to it, it would depend on how they charge the user for the
- 24:17service. But you know, as we all know,
- 24:20like for directed device, it's going to be a service that
- 24:23people use periodically. It's not going to be something
- 24:25that someone's using all the time.
- 24:28And so the capacity, the amount that you'll be able to sell to
- 24:31multiple users is getting pretty high.
- 24:34But in that, that 1 billion number, I think it also includes
- 24:38any contract minimums. And so I think the, I don't know
- 24:43if those that exists in some of the other contracts, but then
- 24:46for Sally Telecom, they specifically and, and we're
- 24:49fortunate to get this information because it's, it's
- 24:52required to be disclosed by the Saudi Stock Exchange.
- 24:55But they talked about how there's a minimum revenue
- 24:58commitments and then they, they talk about the contract value
- 25:02being worth, you know, at a minimum $1.8 billion and that's
- 25:07over 10 years, right. So I guess we could just
- 25:09simplistically say $180 million for every every year of that
- 25:15contract is a minimum. And so, so Saudi telecom,
- 25:20whether they use it or not, like they're going to pay that amount
- 25:23of money to the company. But then if they go over then
- 25:26then you know, they'll pay in excess of that.
- 25:28But then there's at least that minimum commitment.
- 25:32And so I think that's how to think about it.
- 25:35If if if they use more than the the revenues can be higher.
- 25:39If they use less than your, you at least have to have that
- 25:42minimum right that gets paid in. Sounds to me that's Boost Mobile
- 25:46or prepaid wireless in space. Yeah, yeah, the Chert mobile,
- 25:52but, but I think the, the, the, the interesting comment from
- 25:57from the company was that when I mentioned the $1.8 billion, so
- 26:01it was like, oh, that's, that seems is that should I be
- 26:04thinking about like I was asking that was that an annual number
- 26:07or is that like the total? And, and from what I was
- 26:10understand, it's, it's, you have to provide some minimum number
- 26:15to the exchange. But then you know, the
- 26:17expectation is that that's that number.
- 26:19They would be surprised if that's the number it's going to
- 26:21be supposedly higher show. So I I mean, I guess in more in
- 26:29a less in a more freeway, it's almost like backlog, right?
- 26:32I mean, they're they're future commitments and they have to
- 26:34meet meet on their side. But then it's like there's but
- 26:37then it's backlog with a built in like minimum level that
- 26:41they're going to be utilization. So what's the constellations up
- 26:43and they have to do a service then they're going to be paying
- 26:46out a certain amount of a year regardless if that many.
- 26:49Yeah, that's right. And, and the company
- 26:52specifically said, you know, when we when we negotiate these
- 26:56commercial agreements with carriers, we're going to
- 26:58prioritize carriers who pay money upfront and give us the
- 27:02most, right? Because then if you pay, then
- 27:04we'll focus on deploying service to you first.
- 27:06And, and there's going to be an order of doing this, right.
- 27:09And so I think that's why, for example, the company did raise a
- 27:12billion dollars because Saudi Arabia was like, hey, we're
- 27:15going to upfront $175,000,000 and we're going to give you a
- 27:18contract minimum. We want you to cover the Kingdom
- 27:21of Saudi Arabia. And then, you know, these other
- 27:23countries that we service, we want priority.
- 27:25And then the company, you know, because the capital markets
- 27:28were, are open. There we go.
- 27:31But but that's, I think that's why they, they raised the money
- 27:34because you had a, a big customer come in and say we're
- 27:37going to commit all this money. And so, so yeah, they're,
- 27:42they're getting priority. Nice.
- 27:45Was that your timer? I think so.
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