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Patriots Unfiltered 4/30: Day 3 NFL Draft Analysis, New England Drafting for Speed · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be
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  Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. All right, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It
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  Speaker 1: is Day three of the draft and our Draft extravaganza.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be here until four o'clock Eastern time. Mike Dusou,
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  Speaker 1: Eric Sclavino, Paul Prolo, myself, Matt Morrell talking the draft
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  Speaker 1: in particular, of course, the New England Patriots, who have
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  Speaker 1: had a number of picks since our show ended yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: So which of you find, gentlemen, want to run down
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  Speaker 1: where the Patriots are right now? Mike Duso as his
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  Speaker 1: thumb in the year. I'm not sure if that means anything,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean I'm good, I'm okay, go ahead, place.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't you bring us up to day? Bring us
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  Speaker 1: up to date. So three fourth round picks were selected today,
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  Speaker 1: Jack Jones, cornerback, running back Pierre Strong and a quarterback Bailey.
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  Speaker 1: So we made a strange pick on day one and
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  Speaker 1: a Strong pick on day three. Uh, and it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to keep up with the joneses around am I right? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oh Eric, Eric, I knew that was coming. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: yeah before the show. Yeah, I had to do it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's I guess it's all coming together. And I
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  Speaker 1: was sick in this morning. I'm like, you know, for
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  Speaker 1: a team that claims they don't draft for need, they
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  Speaker 1: sure to draft a lot of players and positions that
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  Speaker 1: they need. So wow, I think still happens this year
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  Speaker 1: that they need a lot of positions. That's true, But
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think in general, good teams draft for need. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you try to get good players that fill the needs
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  Speaker 1: that you have you don't reach. But you know, like
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  Speaker 1: someone taking Kenny Pickett at three, you know that's that's
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  Speaker 1: not smart drafting. Yeah, you know, but I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just looking at and you know, we can get into
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  Speaker 1: the need gritty of each of these guys, but um,
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  Speaker 1: two cornerbacks. Thought that was a big need. You needed
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  Speaker 1: a guard for sure, you got one. For Uh, we
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  Speaker 1: would love to get a fast wide receiver. You got
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  Speaker 1: one of those, of running back to kind of groom.
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  Speaker 1: As James White gets a little older, Damien Harris is
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  Speaker 1: going to be with some expo creations with some real.
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  Speaker 1: You know, speed, that's my buzzword of the days. See
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  Speaker 1: the need for speed. Still questions, you know, questions Front
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  Speaker 1: seven linebacker haven't been touched. So I think that that's
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  Speaker 1: a point of I don't say contention, but something to
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  Speaker 1: consider going forward. And I think it, you know, says
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  Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, after the draft, you always look
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  Speaker 1: and you say, all right, this is primarily the group
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  Speaker 1: you're going into camp with. Here parts you like, there's
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  Speaker 1: good depth, there's gonna be good competition. Here, here are
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  Speaker 1: parts where we really need somebody to step up. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the case with the second level, the
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  Speaker 1: edge of the line. Yeah, and you never know, because
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  Speaker 1: they'll never tell us. But when you talk about Front seven,
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  Speaker 1: are they satisfied with what they have or did the
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  Speaker 1: board just not fall where they could get guys that
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  Speaker 1: they liked? You know what I mean? I tend to
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  Speaker 1: look at things on the positive side. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: an indication and this is what we talked about on
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  Speaker 1: the show yesterday and I wrote about it last night.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's an indication that they are expecting some
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  Speaker 1: contributions from a group of guys that really hasn't played
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot in the last two to three years,
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  Speaker 1: depending on the individual. Josh u Ja, Anthony Jennings, Ronnie Perkins,
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  Speaker 1: Cameron mcgron right, and I would even throw ray Kwon
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  Speaker 1: McMillan in there, even though he's not a draft pick.
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  Speaker 1: He was here last year towards ACL in camp. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're expecting something out of him. So out of
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  Speaker 1: that group, if you can get two guys to give
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  Speaker 1: you significant contributions, is that better than drafting somebody that
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  Speaker 1: you don't you know, it's just as big of an
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  Speaker 1: unknown with less experience in the system. Yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 1: Bill's looking at it. Even last night, Macro mentioned some
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  Speaker 1: of these guys as draft picks. Yeah mcgrown specifically, Yeah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's amazing how they do it, how we
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  Speaker 1: have extra draft No, but I mean they're certainly questions.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean I'm looking at, you know, the depth
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  Speaker 1: chart right now where you have five guys coming off
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  Speaker 1: significant injuries that missed all of last year for the
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  Speaker 1: most part, in mcgron, McMillan, Longie Hall, Jennings, and I
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  Speaker 1: just look at the edge and the outside linebacker spot,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, Paul mentioned Perkins, Oo j Judon and Jennings.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of it. That seems really light to me,
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  Speaker 1: really light and obviously unproven. So I think they'll probably
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  Speaker 1: be some depth picks maybe at that spot. Not that
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  Speaker 1: I'm expecting those guys anybody selected at this point to
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  Speaker 1: come in and really be a guy. Maybe maybe every
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  Speaker 1: now and then it happens that, you know, you capture
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  Speaker 1: some magic. But I'd watch that spot and I think,
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  Speaker 1: just like going into last year, I felt like, man,
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  Speaker 1: they are really thin at corner and it came back
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  Speaker 1: to bite him. Right now, still some draft to go,
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  Speaker 1: still undrafted, you know, but for the most part, I
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  Speaker 1: think this could be a thing we're talking about this
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  Speaker 1: year of man, we just we don't quite have the
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  Speaker 1: edge setter. We don't quite have that guy off the
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  Speaker 1: edge to compliment Jude on. Everybody's focusing on Judan and
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  Speaker 1: Barmore and the other guys can't make plays. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: my concern right now, as we still sit with three
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  Speaker 1: picks to go. Yeah, I was just going to add
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  Speaker 1: that four picks. We got through the fourth round already
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  Speaker 1: today and we're into the fifth, and right now the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots don't have a fifth round pick. Normally, Bill doesn't
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  Speaker 1: like to go around without making one. You've got three
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  Speaker 1: picks in the sixth, you've got one seventh rounder. Paul
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  Speaker 1: and I were talking earlier about hopefully they make a
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  Speaker 1: little move to package round and move up into the
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  Speaker 1: fifth round, you know, because right now you're about forty
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  Speaker 1: picks away. Happen. So just just a couple of noteworthy
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  Speaker 1: things around the league. The top of the fifth round,
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  Speaker 1: Washington took Sam Howell, quarterback from North Carolina that some
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  Speaker 1: people were surprised was still available. Um. He's more of
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  Speaker 1: a to me, just a good football player than a quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: He's a power runner, Um, not really a gifted passer,
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  Speaker 1: but he's a winner. I think he's a good player.
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  Speaker 1: Fifth round to me, you know that that makes that
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  Speaker 1: makes some sense. Um. And a couple of punchers have
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  Speaker 1: come off the board as well as a kicker, is it?
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  Speaker 1: Is it? Who's the kicker from Melish's a cole Tracy?
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  Speaker 1: Is that an old skid? I forget. I have to
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  Speaker 1: go back and look now. But two punchers off the board.
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  Speaker 1: Not God, not God's gift to punting right from San
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  Speaker 1: Jose stight wherever they had all right? Whe is he
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  Speaker 1: from Diego from California because the reason arrived. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: he's still on the board. Kiper said he had him
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  Speaker 1: at his third punter a lot of people, He's not surprised,
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  Speaker 1: and the kid from Penn State went first, and then
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  Speaker 1: the kid from Georgia Camarada or something like that. Also
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  Speaker 1: when it's York, Cade York is the kicker from Tracy
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  Speaker 1: I think is a X kicker from Lash but Cade
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  Speaker 1: York went UM a couple of picks. After the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: took Jack Jones Um, he went to UH Cleveland and
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  Speaker 1: then a couple of punters went Um as well. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's just I find it interesting that um, everybody was
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  Speaker 1: all over this generational punter and two other punchers got
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  Speaker 1: taken in the fourth round over him. It's so easy
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  Speaker 1: in this draft process for the group think to kick
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  Speaker 1: in and somebody brings somebody up and it becomes a
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  Speaker 1: name and become He's not necessarily you know where you
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  Speaker 1: would say, oh, that the best guy, but because that's
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  Speaker 1: what people talk about and and then the fans expect it.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, had the fans drafted him, arise at
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  Speaker 1: earlier like oh, that's great if they drafted the other
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  Speaker 1: guy who maybe everyone in the NFL who legitimately does
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  Speaker 1: this had the other punter ahead of him. Well, oh
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  Speaker 1: they could have had the other guy. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: just get kind of stuck into that, I mean reading
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  Speaker 1: and assuming they know what they're talking about. Well, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it happens, like Joe Cardona year, everybody said that they
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  Speaker 1: needed a long snapper. He's from the Navy, Like if
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  Speaker 1: everybody knew, it felt too right, and it happened. But
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  Speaker 1: I go back to what I've been saying for a
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  Speaker 1: while now, is I don't think there's any need to
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  Speaker 1: draft a punter. Jake Bailey is a Pro Bowl caliber,
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  Speaker 1: All Pro caliber player. A four million dollars is not
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  Speaker 1: going to break your back. Well, I know I'm not
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm just I mean I think that's
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  Speaker 1: a consideration. Yes he's what is he the highest paid
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  Speaker 1: punter in the league, Because I just don't think that
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  Speaker 1: should ever be a consideration, especially your consideration should be
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  Speaker 1: we want to players like is Jake Like I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying Jake Bailey is this arise a guy like I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he's God's gift to punting, But is he
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  Speaker 1: a good punter. Yes, do you think he's a good punch?
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  Speaker 1: He was. I think he had had to get out
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  Speaker 1: an off year last year. Fred not happy with and
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  Speaker 1: and I think they turned over Ryan Allen before you
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  Speaker 1: really thought. I mean, I thought Ryan Allen was gonna
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  Speaker 1: be here forever. I'll ask that question again after the
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  Speaker 1: draft of the babies didn't take a punter. Think I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to get a different answer. I think Jake Bailey
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  Speaker 1: is that was good, though, even better than Ryan Allen was.
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  Speaker 1: And Jake Bailey kicks off for you, Jake bad better
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  Speaker 1: than Ryan? Yes, and he's he had an injury last
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  Speaker 1: year that I think people forget do you know about?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he had a knee injury early in the year,
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  Speaker 1: and we're assuming that that was the reason he had
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  Speaker 1: an offer, And I'd agree with you. I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: think that Eric is right that he had an injury.
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  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily connect the two, right I I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that is solely the reason that he had an offer.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he was a disaster already, know like
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  Speaker 1: that we need to we need to replace this guy.
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  Speaker 1: But I connect the dots because as a rookie, he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't hurt. He had a great year as a second
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  Speaker 1: year player. He wasn't hurt. He was an All Pro.
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  Speaker 1: His third year he was hurt, and he had a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of an off year. I know I'm connecting
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  Speaker 1: those dots. You're out, But we've also they don't need
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  Speaker 1: a punter. Yeah, bottom line. You you study punters, Eric,
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  Speaker 1: and you've seen where punters just lose it, but not
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  Speaker 1: in their third year, not like that, like but for
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  Speaker 1: no particular let me ask you. But here's I think
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  Speaker 1: you're right. Pat O'Neill. Was this guy I know you're
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  Speaker 1: thinking of, and I agree with you, but he was star.
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  Speaker 1: Did you see any signs of Jake Bailey looking like
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  Speaker 1: he lost it last year? No? Like he lost it? No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he was as right as
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  Speaker 1: an All Pro. He was an All Pro the previous year.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he was at that level. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he was bad last The other the other reason
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  Speaker 1: I'm connecting the dot is because Jake Bailey clearly has
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  Speaker 1: a strong kickoff leg, and there were several times last
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  Speaker 1: year when they decided they wanted Nick Folk to kick
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  Speaker 1: off in certain situations. Ye, that can only be explained
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  Speaker 1: by the fact that Jake Bailey's knee was bothering. Not
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  Speaker 1: if you listen to Bill. Yeah, but Bill doesn't always
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  Speaker 1: say what he really I don't know. But that explanation
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  Speaker 1: that Bill had for the kickoff that folks screwed up
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  Speaker 1: in Buffalo, Yeah, was pretty detailed for a ruse. I
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  Speaker 1: think he was telling you that they had a strategy
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  Speaker 1: and it wasn't executed. Problem and how many times was it?
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  Speaker 1: Because we had not and Bailey had two or three
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  Speaker 1: kickoffs that went out of bounds. I believe he had
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  Speaker 1: two two, Uh, And he had a few blocks, but
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  Speaker 1: the blocks are not I don't think his fault, not necessarily. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's coverage in front of you. You know, blockers
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  Speaker 1: in front of you making some mistakes. Here's kind of
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  Speaker 1: a little crazy tidbit. Last year, Mac Jones was the
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  Speaker 1: fifth quarterback taken. Yeah, Billy's appy was the fifth quarterback
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  Speaker 1: taken this year. The difference between I try to make
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  Speaker 1: that time and yeah, it dumbfounded Fred Regiment six. Um,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's go down the line with the particular players,
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  Speaker 1: uh and talk about each one. We talked about the
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  Speaker 1: receiver yesterday, right, we had Yeah, they took Mark the
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  Speaker 1: run on Marcus Jones. He was the first one, which
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  Speaker 1: um digging a little bit more. If you want to
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  Speaker 1: do Marcus Marcus, I don't know if we want to
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  Speaker 1: do him. Yesterday we did him, didn't be good on him. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Were we on the air at that point when we
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  Speaker 1: took Marcus Jones, Yeah, we talked about Marcus Jones. I
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't remember if we did or not. We listeners,
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  Speaker 1: let's reset, we'll play it in the replay when we're
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  Speaker 1: driving home. Yea. So Marcus Jones, Uh, I mean people
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  Speaker 1: because of his size, maybe a slock corner, but I
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  Speaker 1: think he's he's a dynamic return guy. I mean I
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  Speaker 1: read a couple of things of that alone. He's really good.
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  Speaker 1: And I saw a speculation last night. He's talented, makes
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  Speaker 1: plays on the ball. You know, it's just a question
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  Speaker 1: of he's a slot small, he's sure outside corner. But
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  Speaker 1: then today five eight is he that's yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we actually just saw him. Yeah he's small, yeah, small.
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  Speaker 1: But then today they took Jack Jones, who has had
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  Speaker 1: some off the field issues, got kicked out of USC.
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  Speaker 1: I think he was academically ineligible. He got busted for
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  Speaker 1: breaking into a restaurant. Um, but it was hungry but
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  Speaker 1: thrown out of USC. Yeah, but he's he's that guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's the man coverage outside long, athletic kind of guy. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I think they met with him maybe three times, so
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  Speaker 1: clearly doing their due diligence on him. So, uh, those
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  Speaker 1: two picks just between the third and fourth round, uh,
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  Speaker 1: to kind of start us off. It's it's it's a
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  Speaker 1: big need. They needed cornerbacks. You know. They brought in
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  Speaker 1: Terence Mitchell and Malcolm Butler, veteran guys to kind of
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  Speaker 1: stop gap, and you know, you hope that that these
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  Speaker 1: guys can emerge. And oh, Bill's got a Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: liked him, and that's a that's a good pick for them.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. They also got a uh, what's his name's brother,
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  Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook's brother, James from Georgia. It's another great fit
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  Speaker 1: for them too. For them, but I think that a
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  Speaker 1: little hot, Like I think that was a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a reach for them. But I do like the player.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's good. I think and this is a
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  Speaker 1: round I thought maybe fourth round, So this is around
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  Speaker 1: where Shakier was was projected, you know, top of the
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  Speaker 1: fifth round. I think for an offense like that, he
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  Speaker 1: has a chance to make an impact right away. That
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  Speaker 1: they sort of Cole Beasley's out. Their complimentary receivers have
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  Speaker 1: been turned over. Cole Beasley's gone, Emmanuel Sanders has gone,
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  Speaker 1: Gabe Davis has moved up a notch with Diggs. I
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  Speaker 1: think he I think Shakira will have a chance to
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  Speaker 1: contribute right away. I think he's talented. Patriots also took
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  Speaker 1: a running back. I like that pick. Okay, Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Mike and I talked on the podcast on running backs
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  Speaker 1: about the need to maybe get that James White guy.
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  Speaker 1: You know, James White's not going to be around much longer.
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  Speaker 1: He has explosive speed. For it was the four three
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  Speaker 1: three sevens, the fastest running back at the company. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know a lot of production as a receiver. Now
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  Speaker 1: the caveat is South Dakota State, yep. Okay, so that
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  Speaker 1: that's part of it. But you can't teach speed, Paul No,
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  Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. That's why I like this pick.
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  Speaker 1: I lead with that. I this this is a pick.
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  Speaker 1: I like, it wasn't the you know, it wasn't one
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  Speaker 1: of those you know, they have to get a pass
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  Speaker 1: catching running back in this draft at some point. But
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  Speaker 1: if you get an opportunity for one, I think it's there.
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  Speaker 1: Some people don't. This is another one that was picked
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  Speaker 1: a rounder so higher than most people thought, and some
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  Speaker 1: people are not happy about it. I kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of like the Athletic Fund, what are you
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  Speaker 1: doing at this stage? It's like it's it's like millionaires
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  Speaker 1: arguing over the next one or two million. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: two time captain and you know, not overwhelming production, but
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  Speaker 1: but you know, consistent UM twenty catches as a junior,
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  Speaker 1: twenty two catches as a senior UM. So I think
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  Speaker 1: he's he's an interesting player. And again I to speak
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  Speaker 1: to Paul's uh, to Paul's point of the speed and
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  Speaker 1: just general athleticism of this class. That's that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: coming into view. I think, yeah, And I like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if anybody listened to Matt grow last night.
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  Speaker 1: It was late. I want speed didn't right, But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's like we have been talking about how
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  Speaker 1: we think the Patriots need to get faster, and it's
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  Speaker 1: nice to hear from the people who are making the
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  Speaker 1: decisions that they sort of agree with that. And Macrow
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  Speaker 1: was emphasizing that last night. Look, if you want to
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  Speaker 1: get faster, you need to draft fast players. Taka take
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  Speaker 1: the hair right, Yeah, exactly. Um uh, the first Jones
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  Speaker 1: cornerback very fast. This kid Pierre strong fast. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: so they do need to get faster, and clearly they
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  Speaker 1: were targeting fast players. So if they're taking them a
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  Speaker 1: little bit higher than they should be, maybe that's because
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  Speaker 1: they want to make sure that they get these guys
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  Speaker 1: that they know are faster than than others. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: wonder what this pick potentially means for JJ Taylor. I
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  Speaker 1: know some people spotted him working out with with the
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  Speaker 1: group and seemed like he had bulked up a little
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: bit and he was always was ahead a little bit
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: of a head scratcher last year that he didn't really
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: give him a change. They went right back to bolding.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, I would be stunned
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: if he's on the team next year. I think it's
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: it's clear by his inactive memory and by by his
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: inactivity last year, coupled with what do what is it
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: you doing? Start with bringing back White in the first place. Yeah,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I mean that's that's a move, that's Patriots one on one.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: We have this young guy who's coming on and demanding
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: playing time. We're gonna let the veteran go as a
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: free agent. They re upped him for the second year
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: in a row. Yeah, coming off a major injury. So
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I think that again, look at what they do. I
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: think all signs are telling you that they don't like J. J.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Taylor very much. Um, they also drafted a quarterback they did, Yes, yeah,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: and uh yeah, he was on what He's won, Johnny.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: He was my top guy on potential Patriots today. Um,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: the only quarterback I put. But you know, he's kind
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: of Mackie. He's a guy that not physically crazy but smart,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: knows where to go with the ball, gets it out quick.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I think he, you know, kind of has that same
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: kind of style to play. But I just think it's
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: good business generally the draft quarterbacks. Steadham, he's his last year. Hoyer,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: he is under a two year deal. But you know,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: if you can and you know, everything I've read about
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: about this guy is that I'm with Mike. Could be
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: a good, good business, but good You know what, maybe
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Stidham signed somewhere else next year, gets a chance, and
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you know, then you've got this guy with a year
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: in the system to kind of understand and be a
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: long term backup. But you know, I mean I think
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: another thing too, is just that Max's not the biggest guy.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I think you need to be a little bit prepared
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: that like he could get dinged here, you know, I
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: think you need to have how big is this kid? Right?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: He's smaller than Mac. I think he's a little bit
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: over six feet. But I mean, I just think the
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: depth is a thing, and you know, having a having
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: a quality backup that you know, we saw it having
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Brian Hoyer in the chiefs.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Nobody's seeing Stadham. I mean, I assume he's you know,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: personal grata for for as long as he's here, and
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: so it's just a good business. I don't think he
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: can ever every year. I you know, just listen. Let's
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: listen to this for a sc I mean, I understand
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Western Kentucky is not exactly Alabama. Okay, so take it
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: with a grain of salt, but the stats are just
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: mind sixty nine point two completion percentage, fifty nine hundred
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: and sixty seven yards, sixty two touchdowns, eleven to eleven picks. Yeah,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: one year last year. No, it was a record. I
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's one year. That's all. Like, he
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: didn't play very much. He was at the Senior Bowl.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Um Again. I think Mike talked about his physical attributes
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: and they are just sort of average six. I think
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: he's a project as a backup. But I kind of
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: like I just I watched him. He's not a dynamic athlete,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: but he's not unathletic. He's he's okay. I think he
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: has a so so arm, but that production is just immense.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: You bring him in, you see if he's got an
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: aptitude for the position. If he does, you work with
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: him and try to development. But he doesn't. You have
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: your three quarterbacks already, but if you can have him
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: replace your third quarterback, why not? Why not? Maybe you can?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: You know, you get him in your in your system,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: and over the next three months you decide heading into
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: camp he can be number three, your pedal Stidham and
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: maybe someone gives you a fifth rounder form sixth rounder.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's probably wishful thinking, but maybe
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you never know. I was thinking a new tackling slit
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: because the one out there is a little rusty Stidham
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: for a tackle. I was thinking to two. No, but
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: some of our listeners probably are you only got a
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: two form. I think he's a one. I think. So
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: that's right. That's where they are right now. They've got
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: three picks in the sixth and one in the seventh. Yeah,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: none in the fifth, but we're in the night. We're
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: getting close. Yeah, but I would look, I would look
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: slot receiver still. I mean, my guy from UCLA is
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: still out there, Kyle Philip phillip Um. But just I
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: think you need depth at outside linebacker edge that I though.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Those are the areas I think they have to address.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: It's really I mean, they did really nothing in free
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: agency other than Mack Wilson Bentley bringing Davis back. But
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I think those are the spots to watch these us for.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Here's a I'm just looking at the board as we
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: go down. The Vikings have two picks, the Bears have
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: two picks. The Giants already picked twice, and they have
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: another pick in this round. So Dallas has two picks
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: later in the round. So just teams that have teams
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: have multiple picks. Ye, Patriots could move in maybe yeah,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: all right? Eight five five pats five hundred is the
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• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Email is web radio at Patriots dot com. Let's get
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: everybody involved here at this point, Um Sean and Vancouver
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: is first up on the AS ticket hut line. What's up, Sean, Sean,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: can you hear me? Yes? Yeah, hello, yeah, okay yeah.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: There's still four players that are available that I like,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and one of them is the cornerback that you like.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Brett is three Quel one. He's player. I know they
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: already have two corners they took, but he's still there.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: There's a tackle Rashid Walker, edge player Kingsley Um and
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Barry and nose tackle John Ridgeway. So those I don't
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: know if they'll last to six. I don't know if
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the Patriots will move up into the fifth. Maybe they'll
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: trade of Harry with a sixth round and and get
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: to go up um. In terms of who they've taken,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I think Cole Strange is starting guard, Um, si Quon Thornton,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: downfield threat, wide receiver, Marcus Jones block corner Um. He
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: also has special team, so that's good. I'm not crazy
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: about Jack Jones. I'd be surprised he makes the team,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Pierre Strong Junior. I think he's a backup to White,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: third down guy Um and Bailey Um Zappe, I think
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: he Um he's a good backup. He might push Jared
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Stidham and be the backup. So that's that's where we are. Yeah,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: well that would probably be number three. I think Hoyer's
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: your backup. Well, yeah, they'll keep three, but I mean
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: they'll keep be there instead of Stidham. I see what
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: shans he could be like technically ahead of Stidham in
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: terms of getting reps. You know, yeah, well I mean
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: if Zappi or zap Yeah, I know. I think the
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: head of Hoyer, he don't know. The backup is Hoyer. Well,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you don't give a guy guaranteed money for two years
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: but then then you're gonna cut them. I don't see
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: that happening. They guarantee. Think he's your backup. Hoyer stays
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: of the team. He's your coach slash backup, right back
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: up Rich Dunlop. But I think they're gonna want to
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: see what I think he's the number two quarterback. I'm
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: happy if something happens to Mac Jones. Brian Hoyer will
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: play early, early at this point. I mean again, they
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: must be poorly run if they're giving the guy that
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: they don't want to play guaranteed money. Yeah, it's not
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: that much money. Well, he's he's the type of player, Zappy,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: who could be like in the development of their system
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: for a quarterback the way they see Mac joneses like,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: this guy is kind of similar. And well, he's not
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: gonna make it in the NFL, Zappy, you'll he'll never
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: be a starter in the NFL. FR. I don't even
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: know what's happened to you? What does that? I really
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: don't Yeah, the Patriots picked him, you know, so you're
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: supposed to get with it. By the way, the Patriots
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: have picked a lot of quarterbacks over the last twenty years. Yes,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: they have. They have. Most of them have not been
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: very good. That's right. The Seahawks took Tariq thanks Sean,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: did they. Yeah, that's the kind of guy they like, long,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: long cornerbacks. Ye. Yeah, that's that's too bad. But we
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: got two cornerbacks. So um, all right, let's go to
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Dexter in Santa Rosa, California. What's up, Dexter. Hey, guys,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I've been a long time listener. Uh, I'm a little
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: confused as to why they haven't their lack of interest
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: at the linebacker position. Um every year during the draft,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I always look at it like, okay, based off of
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: who they pick. This is how Belichick feels about the
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: guys that are on his roster. So I don't feel
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: this way, but I just wonder if he's looking at
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: it like Kwon McMillan and Cameron mc mcgron, if they
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: are the answer, and also Josh Ucha and Ronnie Perkins
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and Mac Wilson. Yeah, I think that's I think that's
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: what he's saying. I think he's telling that though Bentley,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not telling you he's right. I'm telling you.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I think that's what the thought process. Yeah. And then
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: also I've been listening to, like I said, for about
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: fifteen years, absolutely love your Guys show, and like, has
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: anyone heard from Eldred is okay? Because he hasn't checked in.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I wanted to call in, I said the first thing
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: after they took him, like, where's Eldred? I gotta get
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: him the weekend. He's not in his truck, so's Yeah,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: he's been calling, just banging the table. Yeah, outside speed, right,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and now we got it, so I know, now he
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: checks out what's going on. I guess we gotta wait
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: till Tuesday. Maybe he's got yeah, maybe maybe he's letting,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: giving himself time to process everything. Freddy, See how Eric
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: get home right right along you lockstep with Seattle? Woman
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: is such a Seattle type cornerback. Yeah, that's that's who
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: kept Pete Carroll likes. Yeah, there's one thing Pete Carroll
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: knows Sherman and Browner. Ye, he knows his defensive backs. Uh,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: let's go to Rashod in Baltimore. What's up with shod? Hey?
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? Hey? Um? First I'm listening to um,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I gotta say something about the first pick before I
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: get about the other draft pick. Of course, I didn't
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: like to pick just because the value. I mean, I
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: really still don't like to pick. And I just still
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: like the Patriots board is obviously is different than everybody else.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Like leave, I made a joke in my group Chack
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: about Jack Jones. I said, the Patriots next upcoming picks
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be for mind, that's like the seven brown
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: projected person. And of course Jack Jones is like projected
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: six to seventh round. But I'm you know, the draft is, Um,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: it's okay, I'm liking I'm liking it at least trying
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: to address speed at least trying to ask speed to
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, but like the players that they're getting,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just is just questionable. It's just questionable. Yeah, I mean,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I think you're You're right. I mean, I think, look,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: all these guys are going to get a chance and
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: taken as a whole, I'm excited in camp to get
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: a feel for it, especially Thornton. Just what's that speed
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: look like? How does that translate here? Um? But you
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: know it's you bring up the front too, and it's
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it doesn't look like a like a
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: championship level defense. It looks like a defense that's a
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: bunch of guys that we need to prove it and
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: we need to go into competition and hope that somebody
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: emerges and makes plays. But you don't have a lot
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: of high round draft pick guys that you know are
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: going to make an impact. I want you On and
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Barmore to be able to excel, you know. Yeah, And
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I feel like if we draft at least draft a
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: lineback or pass or somebody it'll like at least that
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: will push like people on the roster maybe to do better.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Like it's just like we're bringing the same people in.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: So it's like yeah, like yeah, no, I know, and
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: and you know it's it's I mean, I know there's
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: an Ucha Hyke train that that was you know, pulls
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: out of the station last summer and never really went anywhere.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I don't have to wait till camp, Mike, Well, now
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: it's real. I mean in Perkins too, I mean, never
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: really saw much out of him. So at least Oucha
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: got on the field occasionally the last two years. All
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: these other guys that we're talking about really have never
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: paided Jennings, Yeah, Perkins and and you know mcgron obviously,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I mean he helped cut him some slack because he
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: was hurt. But we've never seen any of those other
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: guys really for any extended time on the field. Uja
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: at least has had some opportunities. Yeah, that's why I
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: would put him at the top of the list in
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: terms of expectations. But you're right, Mike, the way that
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: people talked about him last summer was like he had
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: already done it. Yeah, and you know, I was like,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I don't remember the plays you guys are talking about
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: from his rookie year, and certainly I didn't see those
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: plays last year, three or four plays the top. So
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: even if even if I think he tackled to in
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: that last game against Miami's rookie year and everybody was like,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: did you see that, not realizing two years later the
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: tour hasn't really been a runner as a pro like
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: he I mean he hasn't. Yeah, he's I think he's
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: really concentrated on staying in the pocket. Um, I don't
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: see those same plays that other people seem to be
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: talking about in the summer, I know. And then we
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: were sorry, ahead this one more thing about them about
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: the I guess the upcoming rookies, maybe we could draft
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I'm liking Bio McCollum. I'm I'm thinking he probably will
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: be gone for the sixth round. Yeah, they might be done.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: At least a WEE could add another wide receiver. I mean,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Kyle Phillison feel out there. I think Khalil secure, he
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: feel out there. He just went like, yeah he went
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: about four five picks ago. Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I was I was bumped on that. Too. I mean,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: pile Philips. I like him as a good flat receiver
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: or something like somebody who can take Jacoby slot, because
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I don't really think Jacobe gonna be in next year.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: And I'm really thinking, like I'm thinking a lot of
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: your draft makes is really because they planning for next year. Yeah. Yeah, no, totally,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: especially with like Pierre Strong the running back pick. Paul
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: talked about, you know, Thornton being kind of an Agilore
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: replacement or even given Agglore maybe a little bit more
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: freedom of to move them him around a little bit more, uh,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: putting Thornton on the outside, just because I just wonder, like,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's great to say, okay, well you need
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: five receivers, Yeah you do. They can't all be out
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: there at the same time and you're not going to
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: get production from five different guys, you know. So it's
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: easy to sit there and say, well, you know you
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: have your deep threat with Thornton, Well, is he going
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: to get on the field, Like, even even even if
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: he works out, if Born, Agalore and Myers are all here,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: he's probably not going to play very much in partner, right, Yeah,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: He's probably not gonna play very much even if he
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: works out, even if he shows promise, you know, that's
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: what what he could be. As like Bethel Johnson early
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: in his career, the one trick pony that all of
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: a sudden, you know. And I'll get Bethel Johnson credit
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: for this. He was one of those guys. He's who
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: a bomb to him every other game and he caught it.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and he made a play with it, you know,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and he returned a kick or two. Oh, he was
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: a good I mean, he was always a good returner. Yeah,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: thanks for shot. I appreciate the call. Let's go to Jack. Jones,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: by the way, would not comment on any of his
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: off field issues. He was asked about them. Okay, uh,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: went broke into the restaurant, but he's not biting. I
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: just had to say. I gave Eric a look. You know.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: A couple of minutes ago, as Mike was talking about
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: his disdain for the lack of movement on the front
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: seven and wondering about this, you like, openly dismissing some
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: of the draft picks and patriots, I just wond who
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: are these people? Who are the two people that I'm
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: on the show with today. Yeah, Now, last night, after
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: that call, I realized I hate Bill Belichick, and it
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: is a role reversal because we also learned last night
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: that I'm about Bill Belichick ball. Yeah, we're all listen,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: it's down cats and dogs living together. We've been around.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: How this is what our twenty eighth draft or something
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: like that, Paul, I think that's twenty three for me
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: with you, twenty three, you know, twenty three, and you're
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: intrigued with every guy because every guy has bona fides.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: You know, they come out of college with create, you know,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: all this all that. You know they're the best in college,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: but you know, you see when they get here, it's
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: a whole different thing. So I love I'm with Paul.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I love the idea of bringing in all this speed,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I really do. But I'm wondering, how are we going
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: to stop Josh right Well, like, how do you make
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: an argument right now the defense is better right now
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: than it was when it in the season ended. No,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can make the argument, but I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: think you at least have the hope that some of
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: these guys that we haven't seen much of can do something. Yeah,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I want it right now. Anyway, I went into the draft,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna be a phony. I went
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: into draft thinking defense, defense, defense, defense. Yea, Now they
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: have a dress cornerback, so you know we've got a
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: little well they picked. Yeah, they've got some quarker guy
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: at the end of the third round and in the
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: fourth round, you really haven't, right, Mike, Mike, to much point,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: your defense isn't better? No, but I know, but considering
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: where we were, at least we've got a couple more
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: guys that we can look at at that position. Right. Well,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: you know, so maybe this is for defense. Maybe this
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: is a two year build. Yeah. I was gonna say,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: you're hoping that one of those two guys is Asante Samuel, right,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: and in two years you got a player run right,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean there there this year, you're gonna
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: be desperate for one of those guys to emerge. And
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: it's not like I mean, I guess who Jay and
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Perkins were. You know, Day two picks its Perkins. I
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: forget at the top of my head. It was the third,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: fourth round. But he wasn't say two day two. You know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: it's not like, oh we had this first round pick.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: It's like Cam mcgron was a fourth round pick, like, yeah,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: he was fine, well but he was he but he
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: was a fifth round pick because everyone knew he wasn't
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: gonna play that year. And even if you want to, oh,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: that's what we were told, but I know what we
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: were told. He was a red shirt, yeah pick, yes, yeah,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: but but I don't know where we would have gotten
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: taken we were we were told he would have gone
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: a little higher. Well, even if you want to call
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: him a third round pick, it's just there. There's not Chandler, Jones,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Dante high Tower. I you know, I'm having flashbacks to like, oh,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: nine ten, when you didn't you turned it over and
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: you were searching for front seven guys who could make
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: an impact. Now out of that you got like a Ninkovich,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: You found somebody from the from all that rubble. But
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: you know, you just look, you got a lot of
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: guys and and someone will emerge. But that doesn't mean
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: that it's going to be a better defense. These are
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: going to be plus players, Like maybe they'll be NFL
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: players and they'll be the best of what they have.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: But you got to convince me that that these guys
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: have some magic. And well, you know, with playing time,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Ouja and Perkins all of a sudden, It's like, who,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: we got something now. I like that they're going to
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: give him a chance, But I just right now, I'm
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I'm a little skeptical that that they have a high ceiling. Yeah, that,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: but those are the things we have to look forward
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: to for the practices coming up in the spring and
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: in the summer. Or is seeing these guys more than
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: we did last year, seeing them a little bit more
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: in the preseason, and you know, obviously we're not going
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to know well these points. Is harder to know us
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: with these practices because I don't hit. But but still,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: but just based on the numbers and the new bodies,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: like who's out there, Like I mean, at least the
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: past year we know high Tower and out there as
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the guys. But who who's going to be across from
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Jude on? You know, when they're just running their their scout,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: they know they're binoculars out I'm polishing them. Doesn't have
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: to be Ronnie Perkins, I think so, But they'll have
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: to play it out. I I mean, I you're saying
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: between Perkins, between Perkins and Uch, I mean it's Perk
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: as sort of a situational kind of let's go forward
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: and be a pass rusher. I don't know. Maybe that's
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: all Perkins is too. I thought Perkins had a chance
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: to be more of a well rounded like fourth three end.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's not. Maybe you're right. I don't know. I
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: don't know. Even we didn't see him. We saw him
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: second year. Thinks I can't even get in an argument
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: with him. I love I set the over, love set
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the over under a two ten. It's two thirty five.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I haven't even been sniffing in an argument yet. Wow. God,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, god, darn darn argue with yourself. Let's done that.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Kevin and Buffalo. What's up, Kevin, Kevin.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Let's go Buffalo, Hey, Kevin, you there, Kevin Kevin ken
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: He's gone. We'll go to Eddie in Florida. Eddie, he's gone. Wow.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I want to thank Hardy for coming in early for
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the Revs game tonight. N Try Always Hawaii, what's up? Always? Hey? Hey? Hey?
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Awesome coverage. I love, uh the draft coverage I've been
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: listening to this day one. I just had a quick question.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it off the off the air. I
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: want you guys to uh comment about our development, like
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, what has there anything changed from the
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: earlier two thousands, like you know, uh, and then the
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: post two thousand and ten and now as far as
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: like you know, like we got the wide siever we
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: have I've been herring. You know, he's very thin, he's
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: super fast, but like are we you know, Howard? Can
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you guys comment on the development and you know the
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: coaching you know, thank you? Okay? I mean he says
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: they Is he talking about the receiver position specifically, No,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: the team philosophy, he said two thousand, then two thousand
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: and ten, and then now like over the twenty years,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: has the development how they build a team, has that
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: philosophy change? Well, I think if it has, I think
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: in the beginning, Sivers, I didn't know. I think he meant.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I think in the beginning it was a defense first,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: defense focused team, run oriented with yeah, run oriented, defense
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: focused team. In the first decade of the dynasty, if
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: you will. The second half it was the pendulum swung
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: to the offense, and it was you know, more offense based,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: higher points scoring totals. Brady obviously hitting his stride, getting
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: into his prime. Now I think there's sort of somewhere
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: in the middle because they don't really have a dominant offense.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: They had, you know, a little bit better offense last
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: year than they did in twenty twenty. The defense is
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: like we just talked about, who knows what that's going
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: to look like, but the last evidence we saw was
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: not very good. So I think they're still trying to
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: figure out what kind of team they are right now,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: whether they're going to be offensive focused or more defensive focused.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: And that sort of reminds me of like what we
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: were talking about, Like Fred said, he went into the
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: draft thinking defense, defense, defense, And I just wonder if
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: they're looking at it as like, no, we got to
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: find a way to score more points, because could be
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: because even if we do improve our defense, we're still
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: limited offensively. Even if we have a good defense, it's
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: hard to win when you you know that that stat
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: that we keep talking about, keep talking about, yeah about
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: the twenty five points, Like you have to find a
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: way to be able to consistently score more than twenty
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: five points every week. And you know, and maybe they're
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: looking at it that way. Yeah, And maybe they're maybe
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: they're looking at it that look, we're closer to being
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: where we want to be on offense than we are
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: on defense. So let's finish the finish the job on
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: offense that could be could be. Yeah, And I think
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: it's there's an element of like, these are just the
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: guys that were available. Well, you've you've spent draft picks
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: on Uja and Perkins and Jennings, and at some point
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: you gotta gotta figure it out with them. As much
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: as you love a perfect situation where you have a
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: you know, starting three linebackers and well, let's ease one in,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like we're gonna just kind of
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: have to push some guys into into the into the mix.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: And I have an admission to bake. I think this
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: whole linebacker thing, I think I'm getting what I wanted.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I think he's finally doing what I wanted them to do.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: We'll see. Yeah, the young guys, Yeah, you got a
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Fisher cut bait. You know, Mike said it. They used
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: all of those guys that we talked about, Like, if
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: there's five or six guys, four or five of them
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: were draft picks in the first three rounds of the
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: last three drafts, you know, except for mcgron, who was
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: a fifth rounder like Oocha Perkins Jennings. These guys were
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: all draft picks in the first three rounds. They should
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: be playing by now, and I think I'm gonna get
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: what I want. I think he's gonna play the young guys,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: and then you might not be as good as you
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: were last year. I agree with Mike. I don't think
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: the defense right now on paper is as good as
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: the one that struggled at the end of last year. Ye,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the goal is by the end of the year,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: you have these young guys, they're acclimated to the system,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: they're playing faster because they're a little bit more comfortable mentally,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: and now you have some athletes that maybe force a
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: punt against Buffalo. You know. Yeah, no, I beating your
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: head into the wall, right. You know, with Jamie Collins
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: and Dante Hi Tower and Kyle Van Nois, you weren't
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: getting any better with those guys, and it wasn't good
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: enough with those guys. So yes, I agree, these guys
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: are probably gonna make more mistakes than those guys, but
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: you're well, you're better for it down the right and
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: at the end of the year, hopefully maybe you say, hey, uh,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: you know, mcgron, he can play j Perkins, not so
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: much like you find a couple, you know what you have,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: and then you can next year through free agency with
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: money and next year's draft where I think they've you know,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: acquired like about ten picks already, so they'll be able
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: to build around and know what you have. I think
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: maybe it's an element too, Paul. It is just we
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna pop and who's not gonna pop.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: We need to figure that out first and then build
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: around those guys before we start piling guys in behind mcgroan,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: behind Raycole McMillan. Who knows those guys might turn on
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: players and you're drafting somebody now in it it might
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: be burning a pick. All right, Lots of calls and
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: emails come in, so let's continue. Uh, Pat and agawam,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: what's up? Pat? Pat? Hey? What's up? Guys? Hey? Sorry,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I'm yeah? Um? Is it me? Just a quick question?
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Does it me? Or the last two dress? Does it
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: seem like they're they're taking guys with a little bit
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: like higher athletic score like all these most of these
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: days that they took like Cole Strange. I know that
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: they usually like athletic offensive lineman, but like him, Orton
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Marcus Jones, who I love, by the way, um strong
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: and even got his last year like mcron um. I
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: don't think Ronnie Perkins. These are all guys that are
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I think are a little bit more athletic than they're
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: used to take it. What do you guys think? I'll
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: let you guys take it. Wow. I mean from a
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: speed perspective, that's true. I think this year, this year,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: this year. I don't think the guys last year yea
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: fit the profile that we're talking about. I don't think
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: the grown is that kind of an athlete. But I
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: think Barmore was a little bit of a surprise to
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: me just in terms of he's just good. Yeah, he's
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: just good. And then I mean, I hope they like this. Yeah.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I think Romandre Stevenson I don't think you look at
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: him as like an elite athlete. I think he's a
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: really good running back, yeah, versus a really good football player. Well,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: this year it's certain. You know what Mac grow said
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: last night, if if you want to increase speed, get fast, guys.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: You know, I do think that that was a priority.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Ye Yeah, So definitely this alright, that's all I got.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: All right, thanks Patty. Um, Bob is in the hot tub.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: What's up, Bob? Yeah, don't drop your phone. Guys asked
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: me the question about the dress code in the hot tub,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: so I do some of my best thinking. All right.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: So one of the things you know, I was thinking
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: about with the Belichick, Um, you know, draft power this year,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: we're not really taking guys from you know, places where
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: where we normally do from, um, you know, nobody from Michigan,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: thank god, or Alabama. I wonder if that's sort of
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: an indication that he's you know, it doesn't have as
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: much say into you know, drafting the body. I don't
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: know about that. I mean, you know, what's wrong with
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: taking a guy from Georgia, you know, or Alabama? Yeah,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: or you know a little bit off the beaten path. Yeah,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like there may be I think they
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: criticized Bill in the past more for not taking those guys. Yeah.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with Georgia and Alabama and
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: even Oklahoma because I know Lincoln Riley's one of his
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: boys too. It was the Rutgers thing that that really,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: you know, your friend coaches at a low level Division
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: one school. Sorry Greg Bdard, but you know, and all
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: of those guys that we took, we got mccordy, you
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: know the rest of them, you know do the rest
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: of them were just average players that you could have
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: gotten from anywhere, Like you didn't have to tap into
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: your you know, inside connections to get Logan Ryan and
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Deron Harmon. Yeah, yis jumping the sub and give it
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: a thing. Good for you. Be careful. But I like
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: the fact that last year, Like I think the reason
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: they were successful last year is like it wasn't overthought.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Bill just said, you know what you got Alabama guys,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: We got Oklahoma guys. I know these guys, I know
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the coaches. They're in the line at spots that we need.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Obviously Mac Jones is a little different because he's a quarterback.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: But just find the player, find the talent. Christian Bob,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: you know, I'd like him. I'm gonna take him. He's
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: had a program that I that I know, Bob doesn't
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: really seem like to have that year. Now have that
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: crush on kind of the opposite that, by the way, right,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, thank god, we can get this guy
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: that nobody's gonna probably get with three three words in them,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: you know, right, yeah, Chattanooga, Yeah, this is this is
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: definitely different. Yeah, complicated almost this year that the showing
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: how in depth their their research was, you know, right,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: we really you know, turned over every rock this year,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: hit the bricks. And you wonder, like, you know, it's
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: become almost cliche, but you wonder, like now with the
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: COVID kind of being lifted up a little bit more
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: and being able to be in person at games more,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: you wonder if that allows them to reach a little
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: deeper into schools and not have to just fall back
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: on Alabama. And you know, yeah, you wonder. Leonel Matt
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Growl last night gave a shout out to to the
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Texas Scout. Yeah. Yeah, I forgot a moment at the moment.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: But he seems very cognizant of spreading the credit to
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of the other guys. I mean, just in
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: the limited times we've heard of heard from him in
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, he always seems to drop
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of names Scouts or or you know, people
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: who are are they're helping him, So uh yeah, I
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: mean it's it's all seem a little bit a little
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: bit different. In other ways, it seems very similar that
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: they've got their board, that's their way, and they're gonna
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: take the guys that they like, and then when they like,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: care what Pro Football Focus has in their mock draft,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: as their rankings or any of that stuff. So there's
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: definitely a lot of reinforcement needs that have been met.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I just am gonna question what the ceiling is for
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: all of this because the players that they quote unquote
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: reached on, which is all in you know, perspective, there's
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: a reason why other people didn't think that they were
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: atop the board. So maybe the Patriots are right. Maybe
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get out there and they're gonna drive in
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: the Patriot system and they're gonna rise up and the
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: ceiling is high. But we got to see it on
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the field, and we've got to see guys on defense
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: emerge on the field, Like these things have to happen
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: over the course of the summer before we get into
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: into the games. And you know, right now, I think
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: it's a big, big question about what does the defense
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: of who emerges. I mean, if you had to ask
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: me who the starting defense look like, I couldn't tell
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: you I couldn't tell you what what who's starting at
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: cornerback or who's starting an outside linebacker or it's going
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: to be a very very interesting summer. Yeah, and and
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: joint practices will be you know, that'll give us some clue. Now,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: that's a great point, fred I think that because that
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: gives you a sense of how they stack up. Like
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: we can sit and watch the Patriots practicing the Patriots,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: and right, it looks like it does. But until you
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: get them against up with five sacks every day, right right,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: when when the offensive line right, well that's that's a
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: whole another Victually when they play against another team, you
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: get a sense of of of how they kind of
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: stack up. And even then it's it's it's it's almost
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: on a microscopic level because you're like, well, I watch
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: one on ones, I watch a red zone drills and
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: it's still but it's close, but it's closer. And I
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: still think you're going to go into this season, you know,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: not not knowing for sure. And I mean I like,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I like it. I mean I think when you add
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Thornton and Parker, that makes sense, Like all right, that
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: you're you've heard kind of the people light and you know,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: you don't hear people lighting the torches, but the people
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: who are been like banging the table about, you know,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: getting faster, having outside threats, having guys that can stretch
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: the field and get separation, that that buzzword. Um. You know, Parker,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: he's a contested catch guy, but he does it at
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: an NFL level. He's not a college contested catch guy.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: So I think they have added some elements to their offense.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: And but who's calling the plays. I ain't gotten to
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: that yet. It's another interesting element though, because I mean
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: there's still four picks to go, and if you're going
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: to get a slot receiver, this is where you get it.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I mean you a lot of those guys are late
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: round picks. Um. But I do find that interesting because
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: everybody's like they need a true slot receiver. And I
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: get really mad at that because they have Jacoby Myers
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: who caught eighty five passes, and you know, because he's
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: not you know, a little water bug out there, you know,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: it looks a little different. What's the difference, as long
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: as he's catching passes on third down that are moving
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: the chains, you know. So yeah, I think that no
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: receiver for the Patriots last year, got open as consistently
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: as Jacobe Myers did, made it tough catches and big.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: You know, and I'm not telling you that he's Welker.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that he's Edelman or Troy Brown.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: He wasn't. But he gave you that element. And everybody
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: is just they need a true slot receiver. Oh so
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the style that you think that they need. Yeah, and
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: then what do they do? They did what Mike just said.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: They went out and traded for Javante Parker, and they
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: drafted a guy who's going to play on the outside.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: And and you know, the resuspensibly burn people down. And
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: the reason it doesn't look the same is they're not
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: happening in big games because there were really no big
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: games and when they got to a big game. But again,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to pretend that he's at that level.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: He's not. He's he's he's a much different player. And
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I do think this is probably his last year. I
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: think he'll be an unrestricted free agent. He'll have decent
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: numbers that will be attractive on the open market, and
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I think that they'll look at him as well. They
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: got the best out of him in the three years
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: that he was here. Yeah, yeah, and give us they
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: might not have come in big games for it, but
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I think he did have some big play moments. You know,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: when they needed a third down or they needed a
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: lot of yardage, they'd go to him and more from
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: the night he makes the play. Yeah, and he doesn't
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: drop passes. You know, he was very reliable. He didn't
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: have very many drops at all. Uh, let's go to
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Jason and Georgia. Hey, Jason, Hey, guys, hey man, his
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: draft had me through the first round pick had mean yelling.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: It'll like my brother just going back and forth yelling.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: So I'm just really trying my best to calm down
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: and understand these picks that they've taken. And the best
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: thing I can come up with is that if the
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: first two picks work and maybe one of these other
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: picks that we've done come in, then that's the best
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I can get for it, Okay, you know, because we
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: had I'll take the yeah, like we were pleased as
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: play last year for three. Yeah, it's a good hit
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: with Barmore and it was a good hit with thro Mandre.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: And honestly, I think you can only get like two
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: or three good hits out of the draft on any
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: given year. That's right. Well, you're allowed to get as
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: many year. Yeah, but I'll take three. Yeah. I think
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: that's a good draft. Yeah. That sure, And that was
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: the that was the bottom line when we came into this.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: It was like, what do they need? Three starters? Give
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  Speaker 1: me three more starters, not even specific to position, three
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: starters do sure? Kyle Phillips streams did I know? But hey,
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  Speaker 1: my my b team Collins in San Francisco. Hey, Colin,
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  Speaker 1: it's just in. Mike Lutsvi, Tennessee over the It's up, Colin, Colin, Colin, Hello, yes, hey,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: all right? What um I'm calling in? Uh talking about
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: the linebackers. I'm not sure what we're doing. Uh. Boom
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Towers looking like bust Tower. He looks like he's done
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: years Tower. He looks like he's forty five years old.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: UM ran around then to Kobe d Involved into like
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: the late third, or maybe it's the early third, but
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: either way, he falls into the third when he's like
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: the best linebacker in the country, wins that award. I
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: don't know what we're doing that pick and you know
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: not picking him there the rest of the league didn't
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: pick him either, Right, Yeah, he's got I mean there
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: are I think the thinks injuries, Yeah, injuries, and then
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I think they're you know, even without the injuries, there's
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: a question about his size. I mean, I like the player,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: I would have been lovely smart um, but I think
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: there was always some kind of like I think people said,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: you know, this one thing to be undersized. But when
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: you're undersized and you got a bunch of injuries, right,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: that's the double whammy. You know, you need a team
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: that can kind of just they've had they've been undersized
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: linebackers in the NFL before who were like, you know,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: even going back to Zach Zach Thomas was durable, right,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: but he was out there all the time. Even a
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Landon Roberts, Yeah, who Sam Mills, Yeah, Sam Mills. Like
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: those these guys were shorter stock, your fire hydrant type linebacker, right,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: and but they were out there. Yeah, you know, they
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: didn't have the injury concerns all the time. Right. I
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Mean that's the first thing you look at is, oh,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: he's small, can he hold up? Yeah, this guy's got
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of injuries. I guess is if he wasn't
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: injured or didn't have the litany of yeah injuries, he'd
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: probably been in the first round. I think so too. Yeah.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I just think the newer generation of linebackers, maybe not
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: necessarily a hunder size, but are just so much faster
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: than the ones we have on our roster. Like if
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: you look at a guy like Devin Whiter, Dion Jones,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: like people coming out of the draft last five years
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: are just so much faster, Like High Tower looked glacially slow. Hey,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: did my guy Malcolm Rodriguez get go yet? Not yet? Okay? Yeah, Rod, No,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: you're right. And but I mean I think that there's
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: some there's some nuance to the conversation and just how
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: the Patriots manage their roles. And I think that they
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: instead of drafting those linebackers, I think that they've focused
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: more on safeties and strong safeties and those guys who
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: can play in the box and can run, maybe even
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: better than some of those linebackers. But I think as
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: we've seen you go with safeties, you might get run on,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: and they've had some problems against the run. You know,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: you look at the off the ball linebackers. I've listened
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: them off a bunch of times in the last three days.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: But you know, there's a kind of versatility variety of
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: guys McMillan, mack Wilson, mcgroan, Bentley Longie to vay In
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: hall Um, and I know that they like some of
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: those guys, probably a little bit more than them. We're
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: even you know that we then we talk about. But
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: that's why I struggled with the linebacker position coming into
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: the draft, because you've got a bunch of guys there,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: not a lot proven, but you've got guys and do
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: you need to log jam it? Do you really not
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: believe in any of these guys that you have on
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: your roster for then why are they here? So that's
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I hear your general point. I just stew
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: more towards the edge. And you know who's gonna win
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: up front? When you know Tennessee's trying to run an
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: off tackle and you know, is Ronnie Perkins getting up
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: there and sent She's going to do what you're gonna do?
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: When Derrick Henry running like you know that that that
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: that's the concern is it's you know, even at their best,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure that those guys were
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: ever the stout edge player Jeffson, Texas calling back, what's up, Jeff, Hey, guys,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: enjoy the show? Sure? Thanks? Hey? So um yeah, duce
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: about the you know, like the Belichick haters, Man, I
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: heard that yesterday and I was unbelievable. But I just
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: want to stay as far as you know, looking at
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: you know, Belichick in the new era with Mac, I
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: mean I think you know the end of this how
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: this year plays out is going to be really crucial.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: You know how people look at Belichick, uh, whether you
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: like him or not. And I think, uh, you know
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: we're gonna see I mean Mac, you know we're gonna
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: see Mac hopefully take a jump this year, and and
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: u Aghalore and some other players. I mean, the defense
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: is still I know it's a big question, but I think, um,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: you know, when we get through all the workouts and
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: we finally you know, get the into the games, Um,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I think you know Belichick will put a good the
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: best he can. But I do believe that you know,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: next year will be I think will be a really
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: big jump next year when you know we have all
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: that free agency money and look for uh, Broby Belichick
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: to make a big splash then yeah, um that really
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: helped the team out. But you know, I mean, I
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: know it's too early. We can't like pencil when wins
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: and losses. But what would you guys think would have
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: to be Like, you know, you look at just if
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: everything stayed pretty much the same, maybe you know, what
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: will be expectations. Well, that's a good question. What are
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: the expectations because they didn't finish the season well last year,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: and on paper, the other teams in the AFC that
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: aren't going to be competing for playoff spots seem to
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: have gotten better. Yeah, you know, especially on the offensive
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: side of that. So so that that has made a
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: lot of people nervous. Yeah, the expect my expectation is
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: the schedule is going to be tougher because more teams
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: look like they've improved and you not didn't necessarily keep
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: keep up with that. We'll see, I mean, there's a
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: lot of you know, there's a lot of practices to
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: go between now and September whatever. What we're talking about.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: On the last twenty years, you know, the Patriots would
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: play a decent team or a good team into and
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: they beat them soundly Patriots gave the blueprint for that team.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Did the blueprint of the Patriots come out last year
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: at the end of the year. That's kind of been
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: an I was kind of a narrative. I don't. I
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: don't think so just and I mean, I almost mean
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: it in a worse way because I just think that
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: they they didn't play well, Like I didn't even think
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: they played up to the talent that they did have.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Like it just didn't feel like things were right. Find out,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get what you're saying. It will find out.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Was it because of the other teams were better or
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: was it because the Patriots didn't play as well? Stretch right,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: and we'll find out. Yeah, I think I think the
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: schedule got significantly harder down the stretch. Yeah. Yeah, But
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just I just don't think that they
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: had it. You know, sometimes teams come together and they
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: kind of are greater than the some of their parts.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: And I felt like last year it wasn't even just
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: that they didn't play that well, they just didn't have
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: any It's hard to believe that I thought they overachieved
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit less. It's hard to believe a Bill
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Belichick coach team could go two games without giving up
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: a you know, forcing a punt, but it happened. He
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: had no answers, but it happened. Yeah, And that's why
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I just don't think I mean the answer to the
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Jeff's question, Like everybody all gave their caveats, and I
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: would lead with my disclaimer. There's a million things that
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: are going to happen between now in September. But right
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: now I see them as like a seven win team, yeah,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: you know, d maybe eight if if you know, Bill
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: really really coaches it up. Now, if all of those
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: teams on paper that look to have improved, like let me,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna use a couple because I think we can
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: all assume that Buffalo will be good, Kansas City will
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: be good. Yeah, you know, But let's say two teams
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: in particular that I think we're middling teams last year
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: that looked to have significantly improved with the acquisitions of quarterbacks,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Denver and Cleveland. If they both work, the Patriots might
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: be hard pressed to win seven or eight games like
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: those kinds of teams if they've made a significant jump
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: in their quarterbacks are really good, like if Russell Wilson
• 59:07
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• 59:10
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• 59:14
  Speaker 1: beat to Shaun Watson when he was quarterbacking a four
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: win team. Yeah, you know again, I go back to
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: the angriest I've seen Mike in the three years that
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: we've worked together, when they absolutely got steamrolled by one
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: by one man. They got steamrolled by one guy, a
• 59:31
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• 59:35
  Speaker 1: not that bad. And if he's that guy now he's
• 59:39
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• 59:40
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• 59:43
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• 59:45
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• 59:48
  Speaker 1: you don't know. You know, there are a lot of
• 59:50
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• 59:53
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two Patriots Unfiltered Draft Show. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. All right back here and Patriots Unfiltered
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  Speaker 1: one more hour ago audio only. Mike Dousseau, Eric Skellavino,
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  Speaker 1: Paul Parolo, myself, Matt Morrel in the booth um and
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  Speaker 1: we're in the fifth round. Patriots don't have a pick.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't look like they will be moving up into the
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  Speaker 1: fifth round either. We still got time, a little time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but they have three picks in the six and one
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  Speaker 1: in the seventh. The problem with my trade up is
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  Speaker 1: that if you didn't, if you didn't deem it necessary
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  Speaker 1: to pick a guy at twenty one. Yeah, why are
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  Speaker 1: we moving up in the fifth round? Right right? Well,
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  Speaker 1: maybe maybe they could still make a trade for picks
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  Speaker 1: in next year's draft, possibly take some of those six
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  Speaker 1: and maybe move them to next year. Well, I did
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  Speaker 1: see I think I mentioned I mean, I think with
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  Speaker 1: comp picks um that they that they might have about
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  Speaker 1: ten picks, so that's you know, they got some good, good,
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  Speaker 1: good quality of for next year. Yeah, like they lost
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  Speaker 1: the third round for DeVante Parker, but they got a
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  Speaker 1: third back from Carolina in that trade on when was
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  Speaker 1: it Thursday or yesterday? Yesterday? Uh? Yeah, keep forgetting what
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  Speaker 1: day it is. Yes, they gave they got a fourth
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  Speaker 1: rounder right six from Caroline. They traded away a fifth
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  Speaker 1: as part of the Seawan Wade deal a couple of
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  Speaker 1: years ago whatever it was. So maybe maybe they can
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  Speaker 1: third for j C. Probably and and maybe I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: a fourth fifth something like that for teddy K. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they got some man on next year. That's good. Back
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  Speaker 1: to the phones, we go eight five five pats five hundred.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Ace ticket hut Line Eddie's in Florida. Hey Eddie.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's the second time now, thanks Hardy. One more
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  Speaker 1: call than We got a lot of emails. They want
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  Speaker 1: to get to Manny's in Manchester, New Hampshire. What's up
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  Speaker 1: Mannie manny Chester? Hey? H one point item on the map.
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  Speaker 1: I was definitely from the ohhh yeah, okay, Eric, you
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  Speaker 1: know where? Yes, do you technically have to call from
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  Speaker 1: the Azores to get a pin. Yeah, technically you do.
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  Speaker 1: I know what the rules are. Yeah, you have to
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  Speaker 1: be actually there, so fly over there and call us back.
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  Speaker 1: It's forgotten. Kind of like Paul comments. I was listening
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  Speaker 1: to the Yes Space podcast at one point time, Paul
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  Speaker 1: called a mediocre coach. Oh no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I did not coach. Stop it. Yes, you stop it.
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  Speaker 1: You're embarrassing yourself. I just listened to it today. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I did not call Bill a mediocre coach. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: That's it was taken out of context. That's like Fred
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  Speaker 1: said that he doesn't think that mac Jones is very good.
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  Speaker 1: That's not what he meant. He was. It was something
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  Speaker 1: about something different. I've never thought of Bill as a
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  Speaker 1: mediocre coach, and I've never said that he's a mediocre coach. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I am. I might have said. I might have said
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  Speaker 1: something like this, if you want to listen. He's had
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  Speaker 1: eight plus years without Tom Brady as his as his quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: and in those years he's been a mediocre coach. That's
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  Speaker 1: what you said. That's what I said. I remember that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's what I was refering to. Its call a
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  Speaker 1: mediocre coach. Then without Brady, very very important qualifier there, Manny, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think then everybody's a mediocre coach because Tom Brady. Then, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: any reads Indy reads not a mediocre coach, a good
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  Speaker 1: point caller, and he reads an excellent coach, whether he
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  Speaker 1: has Donovan McNabb, stiff or Alex Smith, you think and
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  Speaker 1: reads a mediocre No, I'm just saying he's not a
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  Speaker 1: mediocre coach. And in Bill Belichick is the best coach
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  Speaker 1: of all time, Andy Reid's not Bill Belichick. Belichick's a
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  Speaker 1: better coach. But if they both didn't have a quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to see who's better. But with a quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: Belichick was better with Brady that Indy Reid has been
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  Speaker 1: with Mahomes. Belichick better than read anything else. You want
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  Speaker 1: to try to back me into a corner with coach.
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  Speaker 1: So it was Tony dungye a media coach, even though
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  Speaker 1: he had a I don't think he was that Tony Dungy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was pretty much the definition of mediocre. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So anybody wouldn't have Tom Brady coach anywhere. No, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think Andy reads a mediocre coach. Listen, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: need you to keep up. Yeah, if you want to
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  Speaker 1: make fun of me, I'm here for that. But just
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  Speaker 1: but listen. I don't mind getting made fun of, But listen,
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  Speaker 1: he's trying to make his own pointing. Yeah, not anybody
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  Speaker 1: without Tom Brady is mediocre. John Harbaugh is not a
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  Speaker 1: mediocre coach. Sean McVay is not a mediocre coach. Like
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand, Like, you don't have to have Tom
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  Speaker 1: Brady to be a really good coach. Everybody without Tom
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  Speaker 1: Brady isn't automatically then mediocre. But you said it without
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  Speaker 1: Tom brady's the mediocre coach. He has been, yes, but
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  Speaker 1: he hasn't been without Tom Brady, So it's irrelevant. He's
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  Speaker 1: a great coach for thirty years. He's been great because
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  Speaker 1: twenty three of them he was one of the best
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  Speaker 1: because he's had Tom. Yes, a great coach. And I
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  Speaker 1: think Fred would agree with me. Would just anybody be
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  Speaker 1: as good as the Patriots were with another coach with
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady? No, no, no, I agree. So he's not
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  Speaker 1: mediocre overall the entire package, He's not mediocre. It's not
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  Speaker 1: that hard. Yeah, you're looking for sorry, man, I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: for a document that's not there. It's not it's a
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  Speaker 1: good try. I A for effort, A for effort, you know,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for the call A for effort that Paul is
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  Speaker 1: itching a little bit. I think was good job, man.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a couple there's a couple of things that
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  Speaker 1: get under my skin. Listen, I say a lot of things. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I understand that on this show in particular, I
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  Speaker 1: get under people's skin sometimes because I don't just fall
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  Speaker 1: for conventional wisdom. I don't just fall in line with
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  Speaker 1: the you know, all of the narrative is sometimes I'm right,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes I'm wrong. Okay, Like I think trading away Dion
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  Speaker 1: Branch cost him a Super Bowl in two thousand and six.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say that. Some people won't, Okay, I don't mind that.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't like when people make things up. I
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  Speaker 1: don't like when people say that I don't think Belichick's
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  Speaker 1: a great coach. I've once got a viscerated for calling
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  Speaker 1: him a very very good drafter, and Fred will be
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  Speaker 1: here to back me up on that. Yea. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't like viscerated for years for calling him a very
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  Speaker 1: very good drafter. Now, in my defense, that was before
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  Speaker 1: like the last four or five years, it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: gone downhill, right. You need in another varia, I say it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I say enough things that are kind of negative, quote
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  Speaker 1: unquote that people don't like that. I say, don't put
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  Speaker 1: words in my mouth offense that I never thought or said.
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  Speaker 1: There's plenty to pick from. You don't have to make
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  Speaker 1: them correct. Yeah. Uh. David and Bethlehem about the quarterback selection,
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  Speaker 1: why he says, just to put a burr under Max saddle?
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  Speaker 1: Why not take a flyer on someone that might actually
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  Speaker 1: make the roster? Oh? No, are we sorry? Is that?
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  Speaker 1: What I'm gonna be waiting into later today is is
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  Speaker 1: people are upset about that the Jeffer a quarterback. That
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  Speaker 1: is that what's going on. They're gonna be upset for Mac.
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  Speaker 1: I thought a quarterback was a legitimate option in this draft.
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  Speaker 1: Later later rounds like today, I had Bill, he's up,
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  Speaker 1: it's all my list. No, I gotta be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. But I don't have any problem with it.
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  Speaker 1: For the reason Mike says, it's good business. It's good
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  Speaker 1: for Mac. It's good for Mac to have another guy
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  Speaker 1: that now Max going to probably teach him a little
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  Speaker 1: bit and that'll that'll help Mac process it and pass
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  Speaker 1: it along. It's just you know, Stidham leaves next year.
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  Speaker 1: Stidham might leave this year. I mean he fits the
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  Speaker 1: mold of what Mac does. I think he's complimentary to Mac.
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  Speaker 1: But you need you need a few quarterbacks on the roster.
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  Speaker 1: I again, good business, goodness. Sam from Maryland writes in
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  Speaker 1: My Takeaways from the Draft shows so far, Paul has
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  Speaker 1: to explain what nobody means every fifteen minutes. Correct. Frank
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  Speaker 1: can't seem to get the concept. Has a crush on
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  Speaker 1: Bill of the Coach, but to his credit, unlike most
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  Speaker 1: criticizes Bill the GM, Fred hates some New England picks.
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  Speaker 1: Tamara had trouble with the Cowboys draft class. How this
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  Speaker 1: guy this guy has and Eric has Eric been there?
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  Speaker 1: It took a turn, Yeah, that's it. Took a turn
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  Speaker 1: at the end. But you know that was felt like
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  Speaker 1: an obligatory week week effort, weak effort as usual. But
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  Speaker 1: but that's what that's what we do. Now. I'm glad.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad somebody's listening because I and I agree with you, Apolo,
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  Speaker 1: just because you know that call last night. What got
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  Speaker 1: me fired up was just that I feel like We
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  Speaker 1: talk on the radio for many hours every week, and
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  Speaker 1: when somebody starts feeding back what you don't say, it's
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  Speaker 1: frustrating because you know, I try to be balanced. I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be an idiot who just blindly
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  Speaker 1: warships like and I don't think that that that's how
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  Speaker 1: it's like. And it's it's proof that people don't always
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying everybody is like this again everybody. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: not not literal doesn't mean literal. Um. When people just
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  Speaker 1: don't listen. When someone calls you a Belichick bobo and
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  Speaker 1: someone else claims that you think Belichick is a mediocre coach,
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  Speaker 1: that's proof that you had two different people that that
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  Speaker 1: you think two entirely different ways about the same person.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly they don't listen to what you say. Well it's
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  Speaker 1: selective hearing. But well yeah, yeah, and I think too.
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  Speaker 1: You put somebody into a box and then you hear
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  Speaker 1: what you want to hear. I think that's true in
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  Speaker 1: many avenues of our society. All Right, well, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to listen to anything else. I've already decided I
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  Speaker 1: don't like you, so I'm going to turn your words
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  Speaker 1: against right, I'm not going to sit and listen to it,
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  Speaker 1: to what you had to say. So Jared and Virginia
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  Speaker 1: have been Night Collins or High Tower signed someplace else.
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  Speaker 1: If not, my guess is that Bill will resign one
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  Speaker 1: or more of them, right, I think that's the plan,
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  Speaker 1: Not to play the new guys we have never seen.
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  Speaker 1: I hope. I'd rather play the new guys we've never seen,
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  Speaker 1: at least I have hope. I mean, I would only
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  Speaker 1: imagine it could be High Tower, although three that I
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  Speaker 1: could not imagine coming back at a discount. Yea. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean you ditch van Noy, you had him here,
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  Speaker 1: So I don't I think that's done right. Yeah. I'll
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  Speaker 1: never say never, because you're always surprised by by certain things.
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  Speaker 1: But I I think that would be stunning if van
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  Speaker 1: Noy came back. It would have to be like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a rash of injuries, desperate knee High Tower. It's High
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  Speaker 1: Tower a free agent right now? Yah? Yeah, he's still deciding.
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  Speaker 1: He's still deciding. Yeah, you know, um it is it
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  Speaker 1: is interesting that bat that none of them have been
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  Speaker 1: you know, sneaky. You haven't even heard of interest from
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  Speaker 1: other teams for them? No, yeah, well he doesn't know
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  Speaker 1: if he wants to play or not play. And you
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  Speaker 1: know what happens when you're thinking about either it's almost
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  Speaker 1: every sea or he's not going to play um or
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: or maybe something else. Right, according to Twitter, so we've
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  Speaker 1: narrowed it down. Man, that's good. Connor and Boston shot
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  Speaker 1: had that on Twitter. Bike shout out to Duce being
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  Speaker 1: universally panned on the Raft Show his first year, to
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  Speaker 1: having callers double dip on the same night just to
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: argue with him. It's possible that Mike is the most
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  Speaker 1: improved member of the Patriots organization since he came on board. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he was a colossal bust in his first raft.
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  Speaker 1: He turned himself into a serviceable starter. But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: come on, that was a remote show. We were all
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  Speaker 1: at home, right, yeah, yes, yes, that's right. We definitely
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  Speaker 1: weren't all secretly in the same room. So yeah, I'm
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: just at home with my kids, trying trying to keep
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  Speaker 1: up with the Draft Show. There's a lot on your mind.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: COVID eight plus shows from Fred this weekend too, from
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: telling callers that the phone suck and responding to Jack
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  Speaker 1: Jones breaking into a restaurant with well, he was hungry.
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  Speaker 1: That was a little felker like though the guy with
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  Speaker 1: the phone Chris Scott's your own sucks. I mean, it
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: was miked us all the time. The theme of the
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  Speaker 1: draft so far from me is reach. Individually. I don't
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  Speaker 1: have a huge problem with any of the picks, but
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  Speaker 1: none of them seem like top sixty four picks that
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  Speaker 1: can be a real difference maker. Would have liked a
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  Speaker 1: linebacker or slash edge guy on Day one or two.
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  Speaker 1: But oh well, yeah, yeah, me too. I you know,
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  Speaker 1: Josh Pascal from Kentucky or just a line player that
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  Speaker 1: they don't really have. And I mean it's it's Davis
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  Speaker 1: his guy. You know you got, you got cow I
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  Speaker 1: mean I I and this is gonna be get me
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  Speaker 1: laughed at um. But you know, Coward and Anderson coming
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  Speaker 1: back gives you maybe a little bit of a couple
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  Speaker 1: of different options. Not that I was, you know, ever
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  Speaker 1: really blown away with Coward or what we saw from
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  Speaker 1: Anderson last year. I think he kind of felt well
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  Speaker 1: on the bubble last year. Um. So it's just you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of the same group. You know, it's the
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  Speaker 1: same group. There's not really I mean, is is barm
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna make a big jump. And you know, and
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  Speaker 1: again how much attention or barn Moore and Jude On
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  Speaker 1: getting Because if I'm an offensive lineman, you know, an
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  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, I'm gonna say, find jood On fine bar
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  Speaker 1: More and let him. Let him try to shut us
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  Speaker 1: down with the rest of those guys al from Italy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have anything in particular to say about the picks,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: but I hope the Patriots pick up someone who Mike
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: really hates so we can go crazy like Milton in
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  Speaker 1: Office Space. My hoodie did base. I'm can you take
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: my ax? I do kind of I kind of dig
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: angry slash melancholy deuce. I'm digging like the last half
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  Speaker 1: of yesterday into today. It's no I like upbeat Douce.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I like I like, you know, I wonder
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: why build database so happy? That's what I want? Do you? Yeah? Like,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: I know I know how little we make. What are
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: you so happy about it? You know that's what I fake?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: More to life and money. Paul Um. Well, I look,
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  Speaker 1: I'm consistent. I hope, I hope I'm consistent, and that's
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  Speaker 1: what I try to be. And I love defense. I
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: love line backers. I love that side of the ball,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just that for me is what I enjoyed
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  Speaker 1: that perfect, perfectly done, and look, they've done nothing, They've
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: done nothing there. They brought some guys back, and they've
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: got a lot of uncertainty and that that's frustrating to me.
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  Speaker 1: And it's even worse when you come off of how
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: the season ended with the defensive performances. It is hard
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: to sit there and wrap your mind around what you
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: saw at the end of the year. And that's what
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: I wrote last night. I kind of recapped the way
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: the season ended and then to sit there and not
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: really addressed defense. I don't really have a huge problem
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  Speaker 1: with it because of what I said about an hour
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  Speaker 1: ago about maybe they're just looking at it as like
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  Speaker 1: we got to try to score with these teams. This
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: is where it's going. But it is interesting and I
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: tie it into, you know, my point about that defense
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  Speaker 1: with the veterans, and it just lacked cohesion and you know,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't elevate each other and it didn't kind of
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: all come together. And so maybe it's almost a sense
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  Speaker 1: of we need to reset the person sality of the
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: defense and that even if it seems like on paper,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: we're losing a lot of championship players who are admittedly
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: older and not the players that they once were. That
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  Speaker 1: this is a group that, although the talent might not
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: be as high or you know, jump out at you
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  Speaker 1: on paper, that this is a group of guys who
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  Speaker 1: were going to play together and play greater than the
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: sum of their parts. And I think that that's been
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: the case a lot of times, maybe not specifically with
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: an entire unit of defensive offense, but with position groups
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  Speaker 1: over the years and here and there, and you know,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: and I brought up Nikovich, I think that's a good
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  Speaker 1: example of a you know, a guy that that if
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  Speaker 1: you were looking at that, I mean, it wasn't even
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: an offseason depth Hardy came in in the middle of
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: a training camp, I think in oh nine as a
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: like a long snapper. You know. So those kind of
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: things do occasionally happen, but I think you're kind of
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: saying that you're counting on that to happen again with
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: this group. And you know, ray Kwan McMillan is going
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: to be an every down linebacker for us, and he's
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: going to bring you know, maybe maybe not the speed
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: element at linebacker that people want. But he's going to
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: give you enough athleticism that he can keep up with
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: some of these quicker teams. Yeah, I don't. I don't
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: know what he can do. I mean he was here
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: for baarlier a week and when he got hurt. No,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: And the only thing I kind of glum onto is
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: that Mayo when he talked about him and how they
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: lost him, it just seemed out of his way to
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: be like, we were really disappointed. We thought he had
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: some things that we could do with him, and that
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: stuck out to me. Well, Yeah, I don't want to
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: get my hopes up of like he's, you know, the
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: next coming of anything. But I do think they liked
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: him and thought that he could that he could work here. Yeah,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: and coming off the knee injury, I just have managed
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: expectations for what he can do. We'll see bart from Poland.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Hello guys and Tamara. When it comes to this draft
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: and trading down, Paul wondered, why do so when it's
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: the worst draft in years? And I agree, it's the
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: worst draft since twenty thirteen when it comes to top
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: end talent, but it's also the deepest class in years.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Bill even mentioned it himself. He said that it's a
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: very deep class because there are many COVID seniors that
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: state at school, so I can see the value in
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: accumulating eight round draft picks. I have also recently finished
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: watching Seinfeld, and I wanted to thank you because you
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: were one of the reasons I watched the series, as
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: you sometimes mentioned it on the show. I have to
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: say it was probably a top three TV series I've
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: ever watched. George and especially Kramer were my absolute favorites.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: My favorite episode has to be the contest also shut
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: out to Frank Costanza and as famous I stopped short, Yeah, oh,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: there's so many greats and stopped shut with my wife.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: And it's just on constantly. I think that that that that,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: and it's so great to hear somebody come upon a
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: show like that that that wasn't familiar with. But it's
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: just on constantly, So I think it's easy to kind
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: of take it for granted, but if somebody actually sits
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: down and consumes it starts a lot of episodes. How
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: many episodes did that end up with? I mean, i'd
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: definitely one hundred, twenty thirty, forty fifty somewhere Frank can
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: give you the synopsis of every one of them. So, Fred,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: how many were there? One hundred and thirteen? Esperiously, I
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: know a lot of people who know Seinfeld. Fred gives
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: you the deep dive d Yeah, I thought it was
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: more than a little more than one hundred is always
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: kind of the benchmark. You get to one hundred, you'll
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: get to set. Everybody gets the big bucks, right, that's
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: when them that's when the big bucks start rolling in.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Do you still watch Seinfeld? Um? You know they you don't.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: They're not on that much anymore. Uh. He did a
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: deal with um they move it. They moved it, Yeah,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: or one of them, one of them, because it used
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: to be like what was it TV? Yeah? They were
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: always on every night at like seven. They're not They're
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: not always on. Yeah, I stopped short. I mean, that's
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: all he needs to say. You know, I have, like
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: I think I have the DVDs of pretty much every season.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: But you know who watches DVDs anymore? You know? I know,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: I don't don't even have a DVD player, So I
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: don't even have a manner with which to watch them, right,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: a manner I don't. I don't. Do you have a
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: DVD player. Yes, I do. Really Jesus, he's got a
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: cassette player. No, I don't have a cassette players it
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: next to the VCR. No, I don't have a VCR.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: I have a DVD player. Why because I still have
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of DVD How do you play your A tracks?
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: Stop it now, you're now, you're now, you're being We
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: talked about this during the first night of the Draft show.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: We talked about how what a waste of money it
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: was when you bought DVDs and you got like this
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: whole library of DVDs, and right, great, like that's taken
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: up space in my house when I could just order it.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: I have one of those racks of CDs yea, and
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: Beth won't let me throw it away. No, like it's
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: it's it's mean. It's actually a you know, it's a
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: nice kind of like cherry wood stacked and there's probably
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: like fifty or sixty CDs in it. What are you
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: keep in this for? It's made four CDs? Yeah, it's like,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: you know, your shelves are like that, slide them in.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: I just don't know what people need to throw it
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: away when you used to just go to the store
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: and you can't listen to any CDs. I'm just gonna
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: buy a CD and like, I like one song and
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: then you just seven seven. I just listened to seven,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: Like it's such a for me and Fred it was.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: It was albums. Albums. Yeah, you had to get up
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: and like, like, how did you ever find something you like? Like,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: now you know what I used to do. Like I
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: used to play an album and it will always start
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: like that, there's like one song on the album that
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: I liked. But then I would say, I would do
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: my homework and I would put like three albums on,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: and you know that they get finished, and then the
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: next one comes on and I end up listening to
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: entire albums and starting to like some of the songs
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: that don't really get released. When fire comes on your updance.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: But you know, I'll give you an album that I
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: used to listen to that I would like Glasshouse is
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: Billy Joel Oh, yes, I mean there's like alf the Lane.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: There's like random songs that I never would have heard of.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: I loved when you stacked the albums. You know how
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: I used to staff you had to buy two of
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: each album so that you didn't have to get up
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: to turn. Did you really do that? Knowing the kind
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: of money you come from. I just assumed that I
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: did erect the main streets of Genis. He doesn't just
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: have like a like a record boy. Oh boy, yes,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: oh boy, I'll bet you though some people did that.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: You know. Uh Monterey, Mexico. This is where Enrique is from.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: Listen and he says, first of all, I've been a
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: fan since nineteen eighty six, so I have seen the
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: highest of the highs and the lowest of the lows.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: And I can't be more grateful to what Bill has
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: done for US fans. Nine AFC Championships, six Super Bowls.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: He is the goat of coaching. That being said, however,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: why is it so sacrilegious to say that maybe the
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: game is starting to pass him by. It happened to
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: the best in history, Landry Noel Shanahan, Joe Gibbs. The
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: game evolves and unfortunately the old school ways begin to
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: turn obsolete. Players change Now they have the power to
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: say what they want. They want to win games, but
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: they want to have as fun, want to have fun
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: as well. Maybe players and coaches don't want to go
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: to new England because they know they'll be silenced by Bill.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: The last three Super Bowl winners have been coached by
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: fun loving, but hard working coaches, and the league is
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: getting younger, faster, more dynamic, and we still are drafted
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: players that no one knows that Bill thinks that they
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: are more cerebral than talented. Don't know, but maybe New
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: England needs a chance change of scenery in the near future. Wow, Joneman,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: just step in and answer this one for your fresh
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: Sure who else you rather have? That's right? Who's better?
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: That's right? I just think there's there's a lot of
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: different ways to coach, and you can be successful being
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: a players because you've got to do what's right for you.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: And I don't want I don't want to believe that
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: a place where it's it's really hard and it's really
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: disciplined that don't work no more. You don't wait, I
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: don't want to believe. I don't want to believe. Well,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: but it's funny, like he said, the last three coaches
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: were kind of fun loving, hard working coaches. Well, two
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: of those guys were old. Andy Reid and Bruce Arians
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: were old, old schools, older coaches who maybe you if
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: you want to make an argument. I don't know if
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: it's true, but you can make an argument. But they've
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: done a better job adapting with the times than Bill has.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: But I think Bill's adapted to the personalities of the players,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: Like I don't think he's the same way. I mean
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: some of the things that people say, like, well, you
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: don't you know you're you're not on social media on
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: a Bill Belichick team. All of these guys are on
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: social I mean Matthew Judon spent the whole he's recruiting people,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: recruiting players like I could see that fifteen years ago,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: really growing up the backside. Yeah, he's been more legal,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: so I think he's been more lenient now. I think
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: the better argument to make against Bill would be has
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: some of his ways, you know, like his old school
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: thoughts of how the game should be played. How many
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: times have even heard of his disdain for the passing
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: game at the college level. Yeah, got news for you.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: The passing game at the college level was infiltrated itself
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: into the NFL. That is the NFL now, So either
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: you you figure out how to do it that way.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: And I think he is I don't think the game
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: has passed him by no, But I understand the mindset
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: of that, and I'm kind of with Duce. I don't
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: want to believe that anything. Bill is seen and appreciated
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: the evolution of the game over the years. You know,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: he's seen how things people innovate, people adapt, you know,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: and he's been right there with it. So I don't know,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: I yeah, and I like, I just, I just I
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: just think he's the best, and just we're very lucky
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: to have him and he should stay until he wants
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: to go. I mean, just think about him on that
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: show that I don't I forget what they called it,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: but with Brady and the Top one hundred where he
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: was an analyst and he won an Emmy before it
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: like that, that's the stuff right there. I mean, he
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: sees the game. He knows that was special stuff to
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: hear his He's regardless, But I just I find his
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: insight on players and you know Ed Reid talking about
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: Ed Reid and you know how he sees the game.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: I think that stuff's fascinating. And also, you know, I
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: just absolutely ate up the football life where you got
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: to see him talk to the team. I think that's
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: something you never get to see in my star turning
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: that you saw, Yeah, you were at the table, hands folded,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: you saw it. You saw the press conference. I took it.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: You got a note, you took a note down. I
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: may have, but may have been that may have been
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: my period of time where I was doing the crap
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: date every day and up Bill said this, Um, but
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: I I absolutely love that stuff. And I think that
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: that's the stuff that that none of us really really
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: see is is how does he you know, what does
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: the stuff like when he takes him to a certain
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: movie or um, you know, shows him a fight and
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: talks about how the fight unfolded and how it looks
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: like it's even and what guy's gonna win? You know,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: all those little coaching stories you hear over the years.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: That's the stuff that I eat up and find fascinating.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: And I mean, just any coach, how do you how
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: do you motivate a bunch of men to work together?
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: I love that, And I'm particularly interested in the guy
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: like that that's been around for so long, right, because
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: not only how you motivate the players, how do you
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: motivate yourself to continue to do the money day? He
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he's unmotivated, absolutely right, he looks. And
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: I say this all the time. People ask you know,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: people ask me, you know sometimes at the combine frame. Yeah,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: people ask me. You know how you answer, how have
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: you seen Bill change? Haven't? Like in that regard, I
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: see the same guy I see. You know. I'm not
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: with him obviously in meetings and all that stuff behind
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: the scenes, but when I watch him at practice, he
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: might spend a little more time talking to people at practice,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: like as warm up is going on, But he's the
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: same guys, the whistles twirling, the blindest racing. You can
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: see it, and I see it. And as soon as
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: the season ends, he jumps into that mode of, Okay,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: you get your two weeks off, we look at what
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: happened during the season, we do the self scouting, take
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: a short little break here, and then we dive right
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: back into it like there's nothing where He's ever indicated
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: like you know, this is it? Yeah? And and also
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: is uh And he's mentioned this before just the and
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: I love this too now that this is my job.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: It's just you're being on the football cycle, like he
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: I think he said, like, you know, you tell me
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: what month it is and what day, I'll tell you
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: what we're doing. We're doing. Yeah, same thing here, Like
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: I like that too, you know, and he looks thrilled
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: to be doing I'm serious. Yeah, I don't mean, but
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: when he talks about that, Yeah, when he talks about
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: that process, you can hell, that's the juice, that's what
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: he Let's get back to the phones Melvin's and Tennessee,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: Hey Malvin, Hey, um, I liked the receiver. I can
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: go ahead and with that, I'm for that one. Nice. Um.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: The question I had was with the running back that
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: we got you just picked up. Do we have any
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: like James White replacement? And he's not fitting that mode?
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think right? Or is that I think that's
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: what he is? Yeah, yeah he is. Okay, he's a
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: smaller guy, doesn't break a lot of tackles, but he
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: has electric speed. Yeah, okay, okay. I was looking at
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: trying to see if that's what the direction that I
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: was going to trying to go, or if he's a
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: really good catching the ball by getting in late. So
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: I was trying to see what you all thought of that.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: Is that the goal that they were I mean accomplishing.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I would say it just aside from even
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: that player, I think, you know, generally, I think it's
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised they hadn't drafted a player like that the
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: last two years. I mean, they think it was clear that,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: you know, James White had had some some injury issues,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: and I mean he's getting a little older. It's just
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: they've always been so proactive at that position. It was
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: a little weird not to see them, you know, other
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: than J. J. Taylor, who, as we said earlier, I
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: don't think you really like all right, Thanks Melvin, appreciate
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: the car. Let's go to John in Pennsylvania. Hey, John, Hey,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: how's it going, guys. I'll tell you it's brutal living
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh to be a pay for expan. Yeah, I
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: can imagine. But I'm just gonna do a little Seinfeld
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: reference here watching the draft and John is getting frustrated.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: But one of the things that I guess, you know,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: living outside of the state for many, many years and
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: just watching it, the big frustrating thing is they make
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: these drafts and then you never see the players. There's
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: always injuries or Dalton Keene. I haven't seen Dalton Keene
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: in two year years from mcgron didn't play, Perkins didn't play,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's kind of hard because you watch
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: them and you finally get like ou J and Win
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: of Itch and you see him a little bit, but
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: you don't see him that much. So it's hard to
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: really know what type of team you have when a
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: lot of these guys, whether it's injuries or whatever, haven't
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: had those years to develop to really see what you had.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: I think that's what we think is coming this year.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: And I think we're all I mean, I guess I
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: don't want to say cautiously optimistic. I mean I hope
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: to be offtistic. I can't. I can't tell you that
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: I'm brimming that this you know that this is gonna
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: work out great with all these guys, I mean, some
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: of them will probably pop hopefully, But I think that's
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: what we're had to We're going to finally get a
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: look at a lot of these guys. I think, yeah,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: And I do think this is Strong was probably the
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: best pick at this point. Strong Yeah, I think I
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: think Strong was definitely the best pit We'll see well,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: I think the guy to me, if you said, if
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: you had to pick one guy, who's gonna make the
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: team and be a starter this year. It's strange. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: I would say it's easy to say with any first
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: round pick. Yeah, but I think, you know, but unless
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: the first round pick commits a felony, he's not getting cut.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: I mean serious, I don't mean cut. I mean like
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: he's gonna start. Yeah. I'm certainly intrigued by Thornton, but
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: I think Marcus Jones was just his ability to return.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: He seems like a ball hawk. It's their kind of guy.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a he's a little redundant, you know,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: between Jonathan Jones, Miles Brian, the shorter, aggressive slot guys.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: But I gotta I gotta say it's not just because
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: the last name. The first thing I thought of when
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: I saw the bio on on Marcus Jones was Cyrus Jones.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: You know, like because everybody thought when they drafted Cyrus
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: Jones the top of the second in round. I think
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: he was the second rounder. But you really are like
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: bringing me down because I was kind of reduced. I'm like,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: at the very least, you have a dynamic return man.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: But that's what they said about That's what Cyrus Jones was.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: He's not wrong you know, that's what Cyrus Jones was like, Well,
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: at least at least I'll give you that, even if
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: he's not a starter on defense and he couldn't even
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: do that Houston, Alabama. Thanks John. Um, well, let's go exactly,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: And Melancholy Douche just managed made me feel Let's go
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: to Scott and Chris Dale. What's up serious, hey, listen, brekin,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: is this uh? Is this phone connection a little better
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: than yesterday? Much better? Much better? Paid your bill? And yeah, yeah,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: thank you. Um and and by the way, you can
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: tell me my phone sucks when I'm telling you to
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: shut it, but your phone doesn't suck today, Chris, good
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: job exactly. Um. Okay, So I'm kind of like Paul
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: in the sense of I don't like people putting words
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: in my mouth, and I'm gonna, you know, make sure
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: that you know because I value my fellow listeners here
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: and everything, and I don't want to take unnecessary shots
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: when they're they're unworn. So I'm going to spend very
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: little time on this subject. But Deuce, yesterday when we
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: were talking, you brought up that people like to make
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: you well to be a Patriots bobo, and this that
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: and the other My comment to you when I called
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: in was, hey, maybe the reason people are saying that, right,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: that's the key phrase right there, is because when somebody
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: gets into whatever it is about the drafts or the
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: cliches about hey, you're not winning without Brady, and you know,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: you reach for every pick that you take, and you
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: suck in free agency, and on and on and on,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: you do your size, you make a snide comment, you know,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: things like that. That's why people feel the way they
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: feel about you. I just want to make sure we're
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: clear on that whole subject. Does that make sense? It's
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: now the words. He's not saying that you you are
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: a bobo. He's saying maybe the reasons some people say
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: that or because of that? All right, okay? Right, so
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: I was and I was just speconding that that like,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: for me as a caller, who's you know, beyond dedicated
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: to this show and everybody knows that who's there even
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: before you were there? I love this show. And so
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: when I called in and you kind of piddled, I'll say,
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: on my opinions, you know, five shows ago, I left
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: feeling like, you know, yeah, you know, Bills Beyond Reproach.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: Nobody can say anything, you know, blah blah blah, you're
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: gonna stand on the wall and whatever. And that's why
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: I said I appreciated Paul so so much, because he literally,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: just like he said to that ding that that called
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: him and challenged him earlier, Paul basically, for better or worse,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: calls it like it is, period, straight down the line.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: He may not always be right. I said that yesterday.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: He may not always be right. And Paul admitted that
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: to the caller, I'm wrong a lot. Literally, we'll call
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: it down the line. Go ahead, start No, I'm wrong
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, I'll start with rigid seymore. Yeah,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: I couldn't be more wrong. I resign, all right, kidding
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: that's definitely the wrongest And Freddie getting back to the draft.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: You know, one of the prospects I wanted to say
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: before my Pahl was just horrible yesterday apparently, and again apologies,
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: there's a guy named Derek, kind of an odd spelling
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: young and and Paul I message you with that yesterday.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: If you want to look up the spelling or whatever.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: I wanted to know if he was still on the
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: board and if you guys know anything about him, Um,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: you know, he looks like a a sleeper as far
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: as a dynamic receiver like with spies and ability to
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: get open, good hands catcher, not having to fight for
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: the ball, like a guess where he went to school,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: Lenor Ryan. Huh, Women's department. I wanted to say Lenoor
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: Ryan exactly. That was the connection. Yeah, and yeah, that's
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: just odd that he's from there. And I thought that
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: was a little bit unique as well, but unbelievable draft.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: If they took another subdivision one guy right well, just
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: down in the sixth and seventh round, Yeah, this is
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: where you're gonna but they've already taken two, right like Chattanooga,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: so Dakota State. Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely absolutely. And then
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: you know, talking about redundancy positionalwise with it with the
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: cornerbacks ball, um, you know, like we already have Brian's
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: and you know and Jones and what have you. Now
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: we took two more guys that are five nothing, you
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Yeah, and and threw them in
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: no length, you know, nobody to to work the outside.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just kind of concerned about that in the lack
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: of linebackers and then no defensive tackle to kind of
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: pair with bar more or spell bar more for arrest
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: or whatever and not lose much, you know from there
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: and what that. Guys, I'm going to hang up and
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: just appreciate everybody and great show is all. Thanks Chris,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: Thanks Chris. Yeah, I mean they still have Lawrence guy. Um,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: so I don't think that. And I know that you
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: want some Davis, you want fatties in the middle too. Yeah,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, how do how do you do in the
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: playoff game last year? A refresh your memory? Nobody he
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: was he was a healthy scratch nobody. Um, oh there's
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: there's uh Greg the Lake the punter just went off.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah punting God to Buffalo, Matta Raisa to Buffalo.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna say it, that's a terrible pick.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: Why because they don't. First of all, you don't need
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: a play, you don't need to punt. You don't need
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: a punter in the draft because against you just get
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: one on drafted. Second of all, you get a guy
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: from San Diego State who punts at San Diego State,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: and then you're gonna go and ask him to punt
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: and Buffalo and it's just not good, not a good
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: not a good move. Strong likes travel Paul. Yeah, we'll see.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: I think there's a reason. Look listen, I don't pretend
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: to have watched any of these guys punts because I'm
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: not a loser. There's a reason that two other punchers
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: got drafted before this guy. I mean that he's not
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: the best puncher in the class, Joey despite the bona fides,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: Joey writes in is it me or does it feel
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: like every other team except the Patriots got the picks
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: they wanted? I also get the feeling that in the
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: past eight drafts the Patriots have been settling. Do you
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: really not think the Patriots took guys they wanted it?
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: I can understand where a fan would think that, but
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: every team is subject to what's on the board. I
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: just don't get how something people can be so confident
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: in what they think, like I That's what I'm saying,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: and I'm still just that anything, Like I I mean,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: I put I put time into this, and I'm still
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: just like, I don't they know they know the truth.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: I'm just called but like I don't like again, I
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: don't operate under the assumption they're right. But do you
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: honestly think they took guys they don't like, right, of
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: course they like them, like some other teams took guys
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: that you like, so you assume they got the guys
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: they want. Like Yes, Houston, for example, with Nick Assario,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: had a Patriots like draft. He traded all over the
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: board and he got players that I think a lot
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: of Patriots fans are familiar with because we were looking
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: at some of those guys as possible Patriots, right, So
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: you look at that and you're like, Oh, they got
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: who they wanted. I know that Bill want the guys
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: they drafted. We may not feel the same way right now,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: by the way, we're two picks away from making another pick. Yeah,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: all right, so almost there, Russell and Arkansas. I made
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: the mistake of watching the highlights of Thornton and Marcus
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: Jones on the Patriots YouTube channel, and I must say
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: there was movement. As Paul says, I was unaware that
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: Marcus Jones is somewhat of a two way player. Is
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: it possible that he makes some legit snaps on offense,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: hopefully legit meaning during a game. The only reason I
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: asked is that in that highlight it shows him playing offense. Yeah,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: you better you should hope that he doesn't based on
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: what they did, because they've spent a lot of money
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: at wide receiver in tight end past few years, and
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: they drafted a guy who's really fast. So if they
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: have to be forced reduced to playing him on offense,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: I think that's a Yeah, that's I really think right
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: now he might be my, you know, my favorite guy.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: Not that that's saying a ton of Marcus. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you. Yeah, that's just normally the case.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: You generally swayed me. Yeah, in my opinion, you know,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: I'm very wishy washy, right, and I could easily be swayed.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: That's why they hate you. I didn't know I was
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: a big sire. It might have been sire do I
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: sigh a lot of people that that's the only thing
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: from the last call that took me by, took me
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: off a little bit. I didn't know I was a
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: big sire. I don't notice that you're a big sire.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: I think you're a little sarcastic. You're a little bit
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: am sarcastic. I can get lost. I'm definitely a big baby.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: You are definitely I'm getting sarcastic, which and I'll go
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: for the joke over like you know, like you are,
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: I'll push back subtly sarcast Yeah, and I think it's
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: not platantly obvious when you're being sarcastic, like snarky Paul
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: is pretty obvious. Yeah, you have a way about you
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: that I look and I'm like, oh, maybe that's something
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: that has to do with with some of that. Uh
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: that gets lost in translation. Patrick from Ottawa in Mexico. Uh,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: these draft shows have been epic. Deuce's rants have been phenomenal,
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: and all the callers have been bringing the heat. Deuce,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: don't fret about the callers, because what they're missing is
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: a title as a little thing called nuance. I completely
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: understand your objectivity, and you have been warning us about
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: the defense for a while. You are not a Homer.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: I'm quite surprised fans still haven't gutten Bill's draft strategy.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: He told us a while ago he only drafts players
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: he wants to coach. Players that have superstar talent will
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: not buy into his system because they know they are
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: supremely talented. You really hate this draft, and ultimate really
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: hate this draft, and ultimately they took stud athletes. One
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: of which was thrown out of school. So you really
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: have to hate this draft and ultimately will not make
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: the will not take the below market value deals that
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: Bill routinely offers. Less talented players will always be grateful
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: that Bill drafted them and will defer to Bill, not
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: make waves and take the low deals. That's why he
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: over drafts players for control. Talented players will always want
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: more money than he's willing to give, and this is
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: considered a sound strategy, that's what he says. I think
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: this is a might do so subtle, sarcastic idea. I
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: know that's what I was feeling coming on right now,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: like someone really put pen to paper and things. Yeah,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: this is a good idea. We're gonna take lesser players
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: so they'll be beholden to and we'll get lesser players
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: to stay and play for us and play ineffectively for longer.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: That's what that email just said. Oh my god, you
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: know it's day three of the draft when you're getting
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. My goodness. And to classify the
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: guys the Patriots have taken in this draft, the fastest
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: wide receiver, the fastest running back, the most athletic guard,
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: as guys that quote lesser talented players that are gonna
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: be more rapped to sign a second contract. Yeah, that's absurd,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: Like why why would have got Like if don't you
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: want your draft picks to work out? Fred, Like, isn't
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: the goal to draft someone and have them be really good? Yes,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: and then when you have to sign them to the
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: second contract, you're not getting a bargain. Like, who's the
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: last guy that signed a second con the last quality
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: player that signed a second contract for below market value?
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: Brian Hoyne couldn't tell you, Jay Jones, Shack. I mean,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: were their contracts Jack at the top of the market. Yeah,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: at the time, I'm just trying to like it was
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: just going to say, in reality, they haven't had too
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: many guys signed a second contract, right, Dietrich Wise was
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: wanting I think he was grossly overpaid. Well, think about
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: all the Rutgers guys. Mccordy certainly was underpaid. And when
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: it came time for the other guys, Bill let him go.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: Do you think mccordy is underpaid? No, I said, you
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: didn't listen. I said he's certainly not underpaid. I'm sorry,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: I thought you said he's certainly underpaid. Said thought, you're right,
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: he's certainly not underpaid. My apologize. And when it came
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: time for the other guys, they wanted more and they left. Yeah,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: and they paid through the nose to keep h McCurdy mc.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: They're gonna be paying him to twenty thirty. Eric from Amsburg,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: I want you guys to give me two things. For Strange,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: Thornton and both Jones we should be excited about. So
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: for all of them, two things about all of them. Well, Strange,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: I think you said it before. Fred, I think you
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: can pretty much pencilin. He's gonna be a start. He's solid.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: But well, I don't know how I was gonna say.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: I can't even get excited about that because whatever God
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: they took would be the start, right, So solid, I
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: good kid. I'll see if he saw We'll see how
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah, Man, maybe he's a good kid. That
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: that's nice. I'm the other two fast. I want to
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: see how fast they are because they're they've been lacking
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: that in recent years. So um downfield for Thornton, the
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: versatility for Marcus Jones. We haven't had a burner in
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: a long time on this team, right, So that's in
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: itself is exciting. Yeah, yeah, I just I'm curious what
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: direction they're going with it all. And we got another
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: pick that's about to pop up here in a second.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: But um, you know, I just I think that Marcus
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: Jones is a oh it's gonna wis No, I'm just
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: looking at who selection might be. He uh, you know,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: it's it's interesting. Jack Jones seems like I said, a
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: little bit more of the traditional mold and and how
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: does this all play out? Sean Wade all that, But
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: I think they've definitely gotten faster. Um, I just have
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: questions about along the line of scrimmage defensively, um Pal writes,
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: and he says, I have a football crush. I have
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: a football crush on Kingsley and Agbar and I thought
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: he would be a top three round pick. I can't
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: believe he's sliding. Do any of you have any scouting
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: insight on Kingsley? And do you think he would be
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: a good fit backing up Judean or potentially on the
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: opposite side of Judean. I don't even know who he is. Yeah,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: I've lost him. He was taken. Uh, I think he
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: got taken already. I think he gots taken by Green Bay. Yeah,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: I gotta look. Okay, Yes, he was taken with the
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: last pick of the fifth round and New England's pick
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: New England. Oh yeah, the double dips at a position.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: I just don't understand why you would double dip. Go ahead,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: duck officially if it's if it's on the it's not
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: on the twitter position. Just draft. It looks like they've
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: doubled dipped. Yeah, at a position. Just gonna wait, Oh
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: did you sorry? Yeah, I gotta listen. Um, but that
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: Darian Beaver's guy went to to the Giants before I
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: know he was. He was one of the first guys
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: I looked at that seemed kind of Patriotcy linebacker. But
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: he's off the bode and come on, come on, somebody,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: come on bird just oh, here we go. They're gonna
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: announce it. Nobody's tipping picks anyway. Who's that guy? Yeah?
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: Who is that guy? Kevin Harris running back South Carolina. Yeah,
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: so another running back I off of my Oh they're
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: not even doing it. Um, yeah, it wasn't familiar, but
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: but South Carolina and the Beast just has a physical
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: appetite and hammers what is blocked for him? But his
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: monotone speed and bland creativity, creativity lower his next level ceiling.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: He had seventeen one hundred yards. Uh did he say speed? Yeah,
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: monotone speed. I don't know if that that doesn't make sense.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. I only got one tone
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: of speed. Yeah, he only has one gear, one gear
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  Speaker 1: right when you look at it. That I mean, I
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: know what he's trying to say. But yeah, yes, but
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: I'm saying it. He doesn't have a change. But if
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: that gear is really fast, obviously it's not. But he's
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: about a special teamer. Yeah, for six two forty right,
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: drafting special teamers. So we are in the sixth round. Yeah, well,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: I mean we always have it. That's what undrafted, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think this is a you know, the
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: previous the previous guy was more of a receiver back
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: and this is you know what, Harrison, I don't understand
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  Speaker 1: why would draft two running backs because one is a
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: special teamer. I can get a special team. It's not
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: drafted free agent like you did, Brandon Bolden. You got
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: a draft. Guys, draft somebody better. I'm not kidding. Give
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: me the guy. I don't know. I'm not I'm not
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: a scout. I'm not even saying better something that you
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: need special teams don't need. You don't need special teams
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: on this team. No, you don't, Fred, They've they've dropped
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: off a little. Fred, I have no doubt that there
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: are special teams needs. You don't need to draft them,
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  Speaker 1: right Like Brandon Bolden was this quality special teamer for
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of years. They didn't draft him rights, right Like,
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: you don't have to have a running back in the
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: sixth round. You don't have. You already have four running
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: you don't have to. But if you think this guy
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: can be good, then you draft him. Oh he seems
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't that's me signing into the microphone.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really see any of his specials on the
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: block right or gone next year? Well, I think he'll
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: be gone next year. But you don't have to, you know,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: draft the guy in the sixth round. So yeah, Harris
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: Romandre Stevenson, James White, Pierre Strong now and this guy
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: Jjju Montgomery time Montgomery another one? Yeah, yeah, I mean
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: that isn't he a special teamer? No? I think he
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: he uh, he projects to be in the offense, but
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: he's a special team or Brandon Bouldo was in the
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: offense last year too, he was a special teamer. Well,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: he had to because of INSI I mean, I know,
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: but he has eight running backs on the RESTERNT. Yeah right,
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: I mean I know they're usually run by a committee,
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: but I think your committee was already. I just listen.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: It's a sixth round pick. No one cares. I get it,
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: but I just where is he from? You couldn't get
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: another like you know what I pick here, like a guard,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: another guy at that depth that might be able to
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: provide some depth for you, and you know, maybe he's
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: better than Justin Haran. Yeah, or you know, I don't know,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: somebody big fatty, take a big fatty or slot defense
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: or defense or tackle to slot receiver. But Jacob Hellman
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: writes in um am, I supposed to say last names anyway,
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: he's from He's from Virginia. I'm loving the draft. After
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: years of complaining that the Patriots are old and slow,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: we're taking athletes. I brought him up to one. But
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: the final step is to trade up asap and get
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: a Mari Barno from Virginia tech edge player with a
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: four three sixty. Yeah, at least we're old and a
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: little bit faster. Now we still have the oldest roster
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: in the league, but at least we have a little speed. Oh,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: we're coming up on my favorite part of the draft,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: which is when it's over and they tell you who
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: you got and you're like, oh, I mean, I enjoy
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: the process and this has been wonderful and fun. But
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like I was a Paul White comment
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: right there. But but it's just so much of a
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: relief when you could get off of what about Jim's
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: spokenheimer from Oregon. Yeah, give me the ten guys, let
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: me go look at them. This is what we got
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: to look forward to this summer, you know. I mean,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: the journey of the draft shows is awesome and all that.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: I don't want to downplay that, but but I respect
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: the guys that like can sit there and legitimately call
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: it and a lot of talk they need to trade
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: up a SAP to get this guy. Yet, ye seven,
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: one more call. We're getting to the end of the show.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: Will's in Houston, Texas. What's up Will? Will? He said
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: that was Will Phil. Well, where there's a Will, there's
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: no way. Sorry about that. Will Johnson and Porter's Lake
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: Nova Scotia just started listening to the show today, But
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: I'm happy with these day three picks. Strong could do
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: very well for himself in this system. He'll play this
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: year and his sweet feet is a no go. He
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: will be able to step up into that role. Jack
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: Jones is solid as well. I would not be surprised
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: if he could be cornerback one or two by the
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: end of the year. Okaya's best available, Todd, Todd, you
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: gotta go up and get him right. That was my
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: That was my mel Kipery Scott wants to know how
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: many games will Bill win you as a coach for
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: his Bill as a GM an he will anyone willing
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: to take a shot at this question. Pretend you're not
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: on the payroll. How many games will Bill win you
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: as a coach for his Bill as a GM That's
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: like an impossible to seven and twenty four. I don't know, random,
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: Like I don't do you look at it and say, like,
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: no other coach could have won that game today, Like
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: that game plan was Bill Belichick. Only we've said that before. No, no, no,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: I know, we absolutely do, But that doesn't mean it's true,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: right You know, but maybe uh, and then I don't.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: I don't have an example at the top of my head,
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: but maybe a GM example is, oh, they were really
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: shorthanded and he pulled it together, or even a season
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: he pulled it together with some guy. I guess that's
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: a coach thing. Never mind, never mind. I don't talk
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: myself out of the well I was going. I just
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: it's it's a hard thing to quantify. Like, I think
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: Bill is a really good coach. I think every week
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: they're they're very prepared to play. I think his his
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: exes and o's and game plan preparation. I think it's
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: really good. I mean every week. It doesn't mean I
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: agree with the game plan every week. I'll give you
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: an example. They played the Bills in a very similar
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: style defensively in the game the day after thinks that
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: day after Christmas and the playoffs, like the playoff game.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: I'm looking and I'm thinking, they didn't change anything. It's
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: the same exact result. What would you like? It almost
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: told me that he still thinks Josh Allen can't play. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: you know, But for the most part, I don't think
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: he does that. I think he's generally got very good plans.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: But does that mean that Build the coach cost him
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: to buy seven the GM put together and bring up
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: like if these two corners end up playing and playing
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: well and the defense wins the game, Okay, it's a combination.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: He Build, the GM brought him in, but Build the
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: coach coached him up. You know, So, I mean I
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: think that's a good example. Oh seven is I mean,
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: they just they housed every they but all the talent.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: They got braverybody in the off season. They stocked the
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: receiver position that was built that Bill Bill Build the
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: GM was the seven Tom the quarterback. Yeah. Sure, well
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: I gave him the weapons, of course. Well but yeah,
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: but he had never done what he had done up
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: to seven. That's when he turned into pinball office. You know.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna be it for this edition and
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: the last show of the Draft extravagances. Thank everyone, good job,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, thank everyone for listening in the last three days. Um,
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: there's more to come on Patriots dot com. There's a
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: few more picks for the Patriots Tuesday. We'll be back
• 1:58:22
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• 1:58:25
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• 1:58:28
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• 1:58:33
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