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Chuck & Buck 11-3 Hour 3: MMQB with Hugh Millen · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Now the Monday Morning Quarterback with Mike holm Grin and
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Speaker 1: Hugh Millin.
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Speaker 2: Here's Chuck and Buck. Hi. Yes it is Chuck Obuck
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Speaker 2: in the Morning.
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Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Good Monday morning
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Speaker 3: to you all. But in a good mood around here. Boy,
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Speaker 3: You get that way after your football team wins thirty
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Speaker 3: eight to fourteen on Sunday Night football. Oh yes, the flowers.
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Speaker 3: They smell better, the air feels cleaner. Yes, everything, The
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Speaker 3: coffee tasted a little coffeer. And so here we get
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Speaker 3: started here at eight o'clock with our QB one, Hugh
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Speaker 3: Millan is with us to break it all down.
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Speaker 2: You have used the po r N.
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Speaker 3: Word to discover Yeah, excellent quarterback play in the past.
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Speaker 3: While I would imagine you had quite the session last night.
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Speaker 2: Then in the case, yeah, I'm exhausted. I need a
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Speaker 2: late morning now. Oh man, Now what a curb stomp.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think these things happen. I don't think
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Speaker 2: if they played ten times you're going to see that
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Speaker 2: type of an outcome. But you know what, they don't
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Speaker 2: play ten times. They played once. It was on national TV.
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Speaker 2: It was beautiful. Three hundred and thirty yards at halftime.
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Speaker 2: I don't need a calculator to double that stat I
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Speaker 2: mean it was just a remarkable, just avalanche. You know,
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Speaker 2: that's exactly coming off of a buy.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 2: How you want to approach things to have that type
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Speaker 2: of intensity and that type of the execution, the precision,
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Speaker 2: the precision and the execution, the complexity of the defense.
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Speaker 2: I mean, man, you gotta you gotta put your thinking
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Speaker 2: cap on when you study this defense, Uh, it's it's
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Speaker 2: a fun team to watch. I know that.
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Speaker 3: You know, uh, you don't obsess over it, but you
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Speaker 3: do hold a record for twenty consecutive completions. So where
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Speaker 3: you're thinking at all about Sam Darnold, you know kind
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Speaker 3: of uh, you know, get making uncomfortable there around twenty.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he wasn't checking down every other play like
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Speaker 2: you did. Oh but well, the that was an AFC record. Uh,
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Speaker 2: and it was with the Broncos, and so the Broncos. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I think I think I Bucky would know maybe, but
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Speaker 2: I think I still have it for the Broncos. But no,
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Speaker 2: it was Uh, I didn't know it at the time.
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Speaker 2: And uh and yeah, I ended up being twenty for
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Speaker 2: twenty and then the official play by play said a
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Speaker 2: drop on the twenty first, It literally says, the official
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Speaker 2: play by play drop ball. And then there was four
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Speaker 2: more completions, so I would have had twenty five, which
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Speaker 2: would still be the NFL record. That the NFL record
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Speaker 2: at the time was twenty two, so by held by
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Speaker 2: Joe Montana. Now, in what universe do I deserve to
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Speaker 2: take Joe Montana's every one of them? Precisely zero of them, obviously,
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Speaker 2: but that would be a cool record to have. But
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Speaker 2: but as it was, it was. But there was I
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Speaker 2: think two hundred ninety seven yards in those twenty completions.
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Speaker 2: So back up on that. Yeah, yeah, come on, So yeah,
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Speaker 2: we have about fifteen yards perfect per completion to make
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Speaker 2: Bucky smile.
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Speaker 4: He was a bad Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love you
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Speaker 4: so much, breed love.
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Speaker 2: But enough of that. How about Sam Donald? Yeah that's
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Speaker 2: his seventeen.
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Speaker 3: Well, let's get into it, and we won't go through
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Speaker 3: them all, but let's get a little detailed. Obviously, he
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Speaker 3: came out humming right there. Very first possession, you get
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Speaker 3: the football after Jane Daniels look a little confused by
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Speaker 3: Mike McDonald's defense. Sam Donald didn't look confused at all,
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Speaker 3: and so second and four from the sixteen yard line,
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Speaker 3: he gets it started with a perfect strike to Tory
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Speaker 3: Horton for thirteen yards.
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Speaker 2: So Donald, and really the theme of this is the
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Speaker 2: is the the details. The precision is in the details.
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Speaker 2: So there's there's a bunch right out to Donald's right.
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Speaker 2: It's man and man covered. So he sees three over
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Speaker 2: three that takes his read to the double slant side.
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Speaker 2: Mike Homgood would call that lion and he's got Tory
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Speaker 2: Horton in the slot. Now, Tory, I know my kid
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Speaker 2: threw a bunch to him at Colorado st. Tory Horton
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Speaker 2: normally is an outside receiver on the right side. That's
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Speaker 2: but as a rookie now he's a slot receiver on
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Speaker 2: the left. On this play, he's he's got to win
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Speaker 2: against man coverage. And here's here's the part of the detail.
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Speaker 2: It's like goldilocks in the porridge. If you talk to
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Speaker 2: Tory Horton on that play man to man that you've
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Speaker 2: got a lurking defender in Bobby Wagner. If if he's
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Speaker 2: just trying to beat the corner over him, he wants
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Speaker 2: to take a flat angle away, but that's gonna get
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Speaker 2: him into the linebacker too fast. So if he just
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Speaker 2: wants to avoid the linebacker's gonna keep it skinny and
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Speaker 2: keep it high, so the angle can be neither not
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Speaker 2: too flat, not too high. For the reasons I described,
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Speaker 2: it's just right. It's perfect NFL execution and get thirteen yards.
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Speaker 4: Well, that was just kind of getting started on the thing. Obviously,
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Speaker 4: after a penalty for that one chop block by Oots.
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Speaker 4: Then he ends up getting his first completion to Jackson
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Speaker 4: Smith and Jigba. What do you see on that one?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's a five out protection. You're sending Kenneth
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Speaker 2: Walker out to the left side, but there was an
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Speaker 2: overload to that side. So now he comes to the
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Speaker 2: backside and he's got he's got a hold. He's got
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Speaker 2: to look to his left to make Bobby Wagner. And
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Speaker 2: early on, I'll tell you what he was playing, Bobby
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Speaker 2: Wagner in like a marionette pubet with his eyes just
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Speaker 2: moving Wagner. Wagner is trying to play his eyes. He knew,
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Speaker 2: he knew he had to move him, so he moves
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Speaker 2: left and then who's number four for the commanders? Then
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Speaker 2: he had to he had to move that guy to
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Speaker 2: the right and then opens up this window. A beautiful
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Speaker 2: anticipation on an inbreaking route. But he goes with his
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Speaker 2: eyes Darnald left, Let me move Wagner, Let me look
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Speaker 2: to the flat. Let me move number four. That will
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Speaker 2: open a window between fifty four and four and I'll
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Speaker 2: hit Jackson Smith Smith Smith Smith and Jigba coming in
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Speaker 2: on that. So the eye manipulation and the anticipation on
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Speaker 2: a backside read after having read the front side to
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Speaker 2: his left. Beautiful quarterback for as Frankie Luvia. We got
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Speaker 2: to recognize a coop. Yeah that's a coop. Yeah yeah,
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Speaker 2: we can't just call it. You have to recognize a
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Speaker 2: coup guy, don't fine, I get it all right.
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Speaker 3: So and then and I love this because right after
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Speaker 3: that thirteenth, so it's first and twenty five, and there's
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Speaker 3: just no panic at all shown by Sam.
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Speaker 2: It's just like, let's just get half of it here.
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Speaker 3: And then they get another penalty and that can tend
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Speaker 3: to disrupt an entire drive, and he's like, no panic.
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Speaker 3: Second and seventeen. I'm just gonna go right back to
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Speaker 3: the horse Jackson Smith and jigg. But for fourteen more
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Speaker 3: yards it was jo beautiful because Washington didn't handle their
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Speaker 3: fifteen yard penalty well on the previous drive, and Sam
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Speaker 3: just didn't panic at all when they got backed up twice.
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Speaker 2: Good point and beautiful play calling here. This is a
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Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak like, dude, were you tapping into their to
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Speaker 2: their their headsets? In fact, I had a text exchange
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Speaker 2: with Gary Kubiak, Clint's dad, who for whom I played.
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Speaker 2: He was my quarterback coach, and just kind of commenting
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Speaker 2: is like, dude, you Clint must have been in on
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Speaker 2: the commander's headset feed because here here they roll the
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Speaker 2: strong side just Darnold's left, okay, meaning the corner of
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Speaker 2: the corner's gonna stay the flat, the safety's gonna go
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Speaker 2: over the top. In this situation, you have Jackson Smith
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Speaker 2: and Jigba he motions he's in. He's the running back
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Speaker 2: in the flat and they're running a coverage or they're
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Speaker 2: trying to invert a cover to where the where you
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Speaker 2: have overhang defender. He's gonna scream out to the sideline
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Speaker 2: to try and play the wide flat area, and Bobby
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Speaker 2: Wagner is the next guy inside. He's the curral defender.
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Speaker 2: I wrote on my notes on this play, fifty four
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Speaker 2: looks like a slow rookie. So the rookie part was
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Speaker 2: a linebacker of his veteran status. And I love Bobby
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Speaker 2: Wagner like he. I described him last week the most
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Speaker 2: accomplished Seahawk in a Seahawk uniform in the history of
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Speaker 2: the franchise. So we all love Bobby Wagner. But let's
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Speaker 2: just talk about who fifty four is for the commanders.
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Speaker 2: How he would not know that the Injigba lined up
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Speaker 2: in the backfield is going to run an option route,
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Speaker 2: you know, he just he just kind of spot and
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Speaker 2: he had no awareness. And in Jigba, for his part,
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Speaker 2: like this is where I stop and I go the
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Speaker 2: details his on this choice route, he would say he
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Speaker 2: would he could break out, he could break in zone.
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Speaker 2: He's gonna hook it up. And then later he ran
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Speaker 2: he had a vertical to he is a four way read,
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Speaker 2: which not all running backs again, but he's got a
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Speaker 2: four way read in out, stop or vertical. And as
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Speaker 2: he senses how the the they're playing this inverted coverage
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Speaker 2: as I describe, he's going up the numbers about two
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Speaker 2: yards inside the numbers. But as he stops, he kind
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Speaker 2: of backs up and he gets on the numbers. He
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Speaker 2: kind of did a backpedal to like it's this unbelievable
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Speaker 2: next level awareness of exactly where the coverage is getting
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Speaker 2: friendly for the quarterback in a position that's going to
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Speaker 2: maximize his run after the catch. He ends up getting
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Speaker 2: on that play fourteen yards. But it wasn't just that
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Speaker 2: he stopped, because I could show you nine hundred and
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Speaker 2: ninety nine players that I've ever either played with or
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Speaker 2: studied that would turn around and stop in his own
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Speaker 2: It's that he stopped and widened as he was doing
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Speaker 2: it in a way that was clear with the and
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Speaker 2: Darnald was throwing with anticipation. It's just like, Hey, if
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Speaker 2: I back up here, I'm gonna be a little bit
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Speaker 2: further from Bobby Wagner, and I can do that because
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Speaker 2: the overhang defender was screaming to the sideline so fast
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Speaker 2: that the windows a little wider. Let me just dissect
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Speaker 2: that window perfect again, precisions in the details. That's the
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Speaker 2: difference between a seven yard eight yard game and a
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Speaker 2: fourteen yard game. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Well, obviously their connection is kind of clicking right now,
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Speaker 4: Sam Darnold and Jackson Smith and Jig, but that one
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Speaker 4: basically still because of the penalty sets up a third
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Speaker 4: and three, and that's when Darnold basically finds aj Barnery
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Speaker 4: right there for eight yards over the middle. I mean,
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Speaker 4: even when it's okay, third and three, we got to
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Speaker 4: convert here, he finds somebody, even if it's not his
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Speaker 4: security blanket in Jackson.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is where and Chris, I think Chris
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Speaker 2: collinsworths is Now, this is just one man's opinion, very subjective.
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Speaker 2: I think he has become the best analyst in football,
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Speaker 2: and I think it's in part because he bought Pro
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Speaker 2: Football Pro Football Focus, and he has a lot of information.
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Speaker 2: He studies it more than he used to. But he
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Speaker 2: was really calling out, Hey, this is Donald. Look at
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Speaker 2: his feet. He's coming back to his third receiver. Well,
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Speaker 2: I watched the tape. I could make an argument that
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Speaker 2: it's his third receiver because there's a concept I would
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Speaker 2: call black bugle, which is a go route and a
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Speaker 2: quick out route to the left and then you got
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Speaker 2: to dig and then you got the check down. You
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Speaker 2: could say in his playbook, I'll bet you it says
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Speaker 2: take a peek because injigba is the go route up
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Speaker 2: the sideline. So for Collinsworth to say that that Barner's
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Speaker 2: only number three, that is removing the idea that Donald
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Speaker 2: would what's the point of my conversation. I would argue
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Speaker 2: that it's more the fourth receiver. And so here Donald
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Speaker 2: goes left. He's got a two man concept the outgo
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Speaker 2: to his left. Nope, he's got a dig check down
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Speaker 2: Texas And by the way, the angle again, the precision,
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Speaker 2: the details barner. He checked over the middle, but before
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Speaker 2: he did that, he took an angle towards the sidelining
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Speaker 2: up the field as if he was going to go
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Speaker 2: to the flat, and then he crosses back in. I
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Speaker 2: call it a check Texas, and you could just check
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Speaker 2: him down with a defender to be closer. But if
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Speaker 2: you first fake to the outside like you're going to flat,
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Speaker 2: and then check down over the middle, you get a
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Speaker 2: little bit more separation. Again, precisions in the details. You
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Speaker 2: get eight yards on third and three probably would have
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Speaker 2: got four or five yards, but every yard counts, and
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Speaker 2: it's it's all in the details. But again Donald going
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Speaker 2: to his fourth receiver on time. Hel melanis with us
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Speaker 2: Monday morning Quarterback. If we are going into detail on
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Speaker 2: Sam Donald's basically historic night last night. He was sixteen
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Speaker 2: for sixteen in the first half, and we're going through
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Speaker 2: his first ten passes here and just how impressive he was,
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Speaker 2: because they were all just a little bit different in
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Speaker 2: how impressive that they were. At halftime, they were five
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Speaker 2: for five on third down, so it wasn't just completing
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Speaker 2: to complete Hugh, I mean third down and five from
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Speaker 2: their twenty seven. You hook up with the walker for
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Speaker 2: fourteen yards and a first down. I mean he was
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Speaker 2: also moving the chains in all of this as well. Yes,
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Speaker 2: this was a cover zero, all out blitz. It's gonna
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Speaker 2: be man to man, but the safety's coming from depth.
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Speaker 2: And really there was no other receiver open. I mean
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Speaker 2: we say Jackson Smith is always open. Well, you know
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Speaker 2: there's a few times when he lines up outside and
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Speaker 2: press coverage where he doesn't win. Yet here again, Clint Kubiak,
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Speaker 2: you've got a five out protection on him. Heavy blitz there,
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Speaker 2: you're blitzing six guys on an imp on a on
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Speaker 2: a five out protection. And and I looked at it
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Speaker 2: as an option, and it's possible that it was. It
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Speaker 2: was it was locked in as what's called a Texas route,
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Speaker 2: which is the inbreaking route. Either way, whether he had
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Speaker 2: the option or not, he broke to the inside, which
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Speaker 2: if he did have had the option, it was the
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Speaker 2: correct decision to go inside. And for for Donald's case,
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Speaker 2: here here it's a six man rush on a five
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Speaker 2: man protection. There is who's who's twenty four for uh
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Speaker 2: for the commander, Well, it's von Miller. Yeah, Uh so
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Speaker 2: von Miller is coming in on the a gap, unblocked,
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Speaker 2: total free runner. And so your credit Donald in this
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Speaker 2: case of just having the courage knowing that that there's
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Speaker 2: going to be a guy totally unblocked. It's a Hall
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Speaker 2: of Famer coming in on you, and he was able to,
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Speaker 2: you know, relatively easy completion other than you've got von
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Speaker 2: Miller bearing down on you totally unblocked. So hell of
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Speaker 2: a call. A covers zero beater and you get the
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Speaker 2: first down. By the way, you get fourteen yards on
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Speaker 2: third and five.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they basically try to run one before
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Speaker 4: he ends up connecting with Horton on that first touchdown.
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Speaker 2: How nice was that? Yeah? Boot left with I don't
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Speaker 2: know Klint Kobiak like Boot Left. He has more nakeds
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Speaker 2: and boots to the left on a right handed quarterback
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Speaker 2: than he does to the right thus far in the season.
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Speaker 2: But I think the impressive part of that you got
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Speaker 2: the defensive end who didn't bite on the on the
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Speaker 2: play action. He's up the field, so Darnold would like
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Speaker 2: to stay on the move, but now he's got to
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Speaker 2: stop pull up with a defensive end ninety six in
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Speaker 2: his face. The flat is covered and if you look
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Speaker 2: at when he hands separate and he's going to throw this, you,
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Speaker 2: Tory Horton is not open. He's got he's contacted. I
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Speaker 2: mean the defender could have reached out, beer hugged him.
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Speaker 2: There was no separation, but he threw with anticipation through
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Speaker 2: it open. Unbelievable, probably in my mind, the most difficult
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Speaker 2: play that he had of the night. There was that
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Speaker 2: touchdown pass in terms of just degree of difficulty by
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Speaker 2: NFL quarterback standards, just how he backed up, the anticipation
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Speaker 2: he had, the spot that he put it in. I
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Speaker 2: mean that there's your porn right there. I mean that
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Speaker 2: things are really getting rev up. I know it when
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Speaker 2: I see it. The line, yeah yeah, yeah, that was
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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court justice in nineteen sixty three. Can't describe it,
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Speaker 2: but I know when I see it. Yeah yeah, Well
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Speaker 2: seven decency perpetrated in that end zone.
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Speaker 3: That was gorgeous. Seven to nothing at that point. Next possession,
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Speaker 3: let's go back to back here. I mean there were
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Speaker 3: three plays apart, but back to back throws to JSN
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Speaker 3: seventeen yards and then a seven yard hookup.
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Speaker 2: So let's squish those two. The seven yard cup was
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Speaker 2: just a hits free access hits nothing there the boot
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Speaker 2: left over route for seventeen yards. You would quarter you
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Speaker 2: would coach Darnold. Hey again, here he is on a
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Speaker 2: naked not to his right as the right handed quarterback,
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Speaker 2: but to his left. He had Robbie Oots out there
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Speaker 2: as a wing of a tight end as it were,
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Speaker 2: and he's just kind of blocking. So but that brings
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Speaker 2: extra defenders, so it's relatively congested. He's got the flat
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Speaker 2: that's covered, he's got Robbie Uts blocking for him, so
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Speaker 2: that there's just a lot of bodies. So he says, well,
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Speaker 2: let me find jaysn coming from the backside on an
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Speaker 2: intermediate crossing route. He hits him on the dead run
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Speaker 2: while he's on the left. He hits a jigb on
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Speaker 2: the dead run seventeen yards. Made it look like a
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Speaker 2: laying in basketball. Beautiful yep.
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Speaker 4: And then he basically ends up finishing that drive off
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Speaker 4: with another twenty five yard striker, not another one, but
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Speaker 4: a twenty five yard strikeer Tory Horton another great throw.
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Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm gonna use it. That is not ubiquitous.
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Speaker 2: If I say cover zero, every coach, nois what I'm
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Speaker 2: talking about. I say, that's blitz mana man, no free safety.
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Speaker 2: If I say cover one, everybody knows what I'm talking about.
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Speaker 2: That's man man with a free safety. I'm gonna use
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Speaker 2: the term cover seven that I picked up somewhere along
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Speaker 2: the line of Coach called it. Not everybody uses that term,
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Speaker 2: but everybody will describe it however they describe it. Cover
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Speaker 2: seven is man to man, but with a bracket against
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Speaker 2: one guy. So okay, So instead of having a free
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Speaker 2: safety in the middle, you're gonna take that safety and
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Speaker 2: say we're gonna put two on one and then everybody
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Speaker 2: else is just man and man. And in this case
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Speaker 2: they're bracketing JSN and so Sandra still the corner on
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Speaker 2: man a man that you've got to point a bunch
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Speaker 2: formation to Darnold's right, and you've got Tory Horton as
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Speaker 2: the point. There's three guys and the middle guy is
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Speaker 2: on the line of scrimmage. The other two are backed up.
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Speaker 2: Why is that important? When you start talking about play construction,
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Speaker 2: you've got to be aware that defense is usually jam
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Speaker 2: the point the middle guy who's on the line of scrimmage,
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Speaker 2: and so Horton he's got to have because he's on
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Speaker 2: the line he's got to have a great release. He
19:12
Speaker 2: takes an inside release against Sandrastill. Sandra's still Then when
19:16
Speaker 2: you watch the end zone copy, he jumps to the
19:18
Speaker 2: inside because once Horton goes on an inside release, Sandra's
19:23
Speaker 2: still the defender and man to man, you're telling Sandra's still, Hey,
19:27
Speaker 2: it's cover seven. You don't have any safety help. So
19:30
Speaker 2: Sandristelle once he says, okay, Horton just went in an
19:33
Speaker 2: inside release on me. He's got to guard the intermediate
19:37
Speaker 2: crossing route because he's got no safety help because the
19:40
Speaker 2: safety is over there helping on Jackson Smith and Jigba.
19:42
Speaker 2: So Sandra's still he cheats. He gets to the inside,
19:45
Speaker 2: but no, here's here's Clint Kubiak. I'm not running him
19:49
Speaker 2: on a deep over route. I'm running him back to
19:51
Speaker 2: the corner. So Sandra still had to guess because he
19:53
Speaker 2: has no safety help. Because Jackson Smith and jig was
19:56
Speaker 2: on the field. They want to play man to man,
19:58
Speaker 2: but they got a double Jackson Smith and g we
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Speaker 2: take an inside release. Oh we think we're going an
20:02
Speaker 2: inside breaking route. Nope, we're going an outside breaking route.
20:05
Speaker 2: That's how you get that wide open app And there
20:08
Speaker 2: was just a little bit of a nod to the inside. Beautiful,
20:11
Speaker 2: not nothing to slow him down. But I would say
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Speaker 2: the route was absolutely a ten by the Rocky Horton.
20:18
Speaker 2: But it's the construction. It's all the elements that I'm
20:21
Speaker 2: talking about to create a wide open, easy.
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Speaker 3: Touchdown, all right, And then that's fourteen and nothing. Then
20:26
Speaker 3: you have the fumbled kick return. And so within nine
20:29
Speaker 3: seconds the Seahawks threw two touchdown passes and opened up
20:33
Speaker 3: a twenty one nothing lead over the Commanders. And at
20:36
Speaker 3: this point, Darnold's just cocky because he had JSN wide
20:40
Speaker 3: open down the right sidelines, Like, no, I'm gonna throw
20:42
Speaker 3: the more difficult throw just to show you how awesome
20:44
Speaker 3: I am tonight.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Jason had a filthy, filthy and credit the broadcast.
20:49
Speaker 2: They're really good. They showed it. It was literally open.
20:52
Speaker 2: I watched the coaches tapement. I mean he's opened by
20:54
Speaker 2: five yards. That's non exaggeration. I mean he'd put the
20:56
Speaker 2: whooped to do, but the safety was cheating over to
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Speaker 2: his side. Now this is man to man. This is
21:02
Speaker 2: not the cover seven, but it's this free safety with
21:05
Speaker 2: a hard sheet. And and so because he sees the
21:09
Speaker 2: hard sheet and he's got Arroyo on a seam route.
21:13
Speaker 2: You're you want to get a single safety. That call,
21:15
Speaker 2: that play is called to get a single safety. And
21:18
Speaker 2: and and if you're you're Donald, you just say, hey,
21:21
Speaker 2: if you're in the middle of the if I can
21:22
Speaker 2: get you off the middle field, I've I've got one
21:25
Speaker 2: on one to the outside, uh or up the seam
21:28
Speaker 2: rather to uh Arroyo or number eighteen for uh Tyler Owens.
21:34
Speaker 2: He he kind of he bites in a little too fast,
21:36
Speaker 2: so he gets beat. Arroyo's speed beats him up the seam.
21:40
Speaker 2: And then the corner Latimore, there's a Tory Horton was
21:43
Speaker 2: trying to hold the outside corner uh uh from from
21:47
Speaker 2: falling back into the play. This one, I don't think
21:50
Speaker 2: this matters a lot, but this uh relevant. But the seam,
21:55
Speaker 2: the seam route to the left, which is what Donald
21:58
Speaker 2: had on that play, was my favorite play as a
22:01
Speaker 2: quarterback in my career. And because as a right handed quarterback,
22:05
Speaker 2: you go one, two, three, four, five, he hits. Your
22:08
Speaker 2: weight is all set up as you're throwing to your left.
22:13
Speaker 2: There's a certain rhythm to how you can throw it.
22:16
Speaker 2: The way the receiver is running away from you in
22:19
Speaker 2: your relative to your visions kind of left to right.
22:22
Speaker 2: But it's going up the field, and so the angle
22:25
Speaker 2: is easy to anticipate. It just fits, it fits my eye.
22:29
Speaker 2: I'm not in Darnold's head. I haven't asked him, is
22:31
Speaker 2: that your favorite route? But that steam route to the left.
22:35
Speaker 2: He would even tell you that that wasn't a perfect throw.
22:37
Speaker 2: He would have liked to have thrown that two feet farther.
22:40
Speaker 2: But he won by anticipation. And what you're trying to
22:42
Speaker 2: do is think of a triangle. I'm gonna get with
22:45
Speaker 2: the point in front of you. You're trying to hit
22:48
Speaker 2: between three guys. The guy who's running down the scene
22:50
Speaker 2: with him, that's number eighteen. Then the free safety he
22:54
Speaker 2: represents a second point of the triangle. But then the
22:57
Speaker 2: backside corner can fall into the play. So you got
23:00
Speaker 2: to you gotta be aware of three guys that can
23:02
Speaker 2: make the play. You're gonna stick it in between that triangle.
23:05
Speaker 2: And Laddimore, you discussed him. He makes a business decision.
23:09
Speaker 2: If I'm coaching the Commanders on defense, I say, dude,
23:13
Speaker 2: you got to accelerate through that tight end at the
23:16
Speaker 2: half yard line and try and dislodge the football. Latimore
23:19
Speaker 2: had a chance to do that he took. He made
23:21
Speaker 2: a business decision, he said, for Ricky Waters, for what,
23:25
Speaker 2: for whom? And just he just he tapped out of
23:29
Speaker 2: the play and so so a slightly underthrown ball, but
23:34
Speaker 2: you win by anticipation. Love that seam route to the left,
23:39
Speaker 2: got the corner, the free safety going hard over to
23:41
Speaker 2: JSN for obvious reasons. That opens a big window in
23:46
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold's eyes and he was able to get the
23:48
Speaker 2: touchdown out of it. And at that point he's ten
23:50
Speaker 2: for ten and the Sea Oarks are had twenty one
23:53
Speaker 2: to nothing and the game is over. It is an
23:55
Speaker 2: exercise in getting the clock to double zero at that point.
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Speaker 3: Ye impressive display. Hugh Millan is with us Monday Morning Quarterback.
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Speaker 2: Hugh Millan.
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Speaker 3: We talked about Sam Darnold's electrifying first half and the
24:29
Speaker 3: first segment. So we now get to the defense a
24:32
Speaker 3: little bit, and certainly a couple of things that stand
24:34
Speaker 3: out on this side of the ball, including tyle Cotta's interception.
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Speaker 2: Hugh.
24:39
Speaker 3: I mean, I realize that most safeties are safeties because
24:43
Speaker 3: they didn't catch the ball well enough to play wide receiver.
24:46
Speaker 2: But that was as good a catch as you're ever
24:48
Speaker 2: going to see. Yeah, it had Larry Fitzgerald done that,
24:51
Speaker 2: you'd have said, that's why he's the best right to tapper, right, Yeah, remarkable.
24:57
Speaker 2: You know, for me, I'm I'm kind of more impressed. Look,
25:01
Speaker 2: look the vertical he got on that that individual play
25:04
Speaker 2: Biocoda was sensational. So everything you're gonna say about it,
25:08
Speaker 2: I can't say as well as you can, like it
25:10
Speaker 2: was spectacular, But I got to tell you that I'm
25:13
Speaker 2: I'm more impressed by everything that was going on in
25:17
Speaker 2: that play because because I realized how hard Mike McDonald
25:24
Speaker 2: was making life on Jayden Daniels on that play. Let
25:28
Speaker 2: me explain what I mean. The ball is on the right, Halse.
25:30
Speaker 2: You got Ernest Jones in in the a gap to
25:34
Speaker 2: the field side, which means that. Now you're gonna likely
25:38
Speaker 2: ind and you've got you've got Drake Thomas up as
25:42
Speaker 2: a potential blitzer, so you're probably gonna induce this the
25:46
Speaker 2: offensive line to turn to the left side to make
25:48
Speaker 2: sure they've got Ernest Jones. But Ernest Jones isn't gonna
25:51
Speaker 2: He's gonna what the term is called mug He's mugging
25:54
Speaker 2: up in that a gap. He's gonna back away. You're
25:57
Speaker 2: gonna also have DeMarcus Lawrence. He's gonna start for a
26:00
Speaker 2: couple steps, he's gonna back off. But on the on
26:04
Speaker 2: the boundary side, the side towards the interception, as you said,
26:08
Speaker 2: Drake Thomas is he's gonna eat up the block from
26:10
Speaker 2: the running back. But because the wide receiver is in
26:13
Speaker 2: what's called a cut split or a reduced split, he's
26:16
Speaker 2: on the inside edge of the numbers, the balls on
26:19
Speaker 2: the right half, so that that triggers a blitz by Witherspoon,
26:25
Speaker 2: who's the corner. Now here's where things. So even if
26:29
Speaker 2: I just said right there, that's a lot of stuff.
26:31
Speaker 2: It's called what's called the cat blitz. And because the
26:34
Speaker 2: running back is got to block Drake Thomas, now you've
26:37
Speaker 2: got Witherspoon able to come right in that b gap
26:40
Speaker 2: between the garden tact unblocked because of all the things
26:44
Speaker 2: you've done to say to influence and and really to
26:48
Speaker 2: dictate the protection. But every other team will when when
26:52
Speaker 2: they run this cat blitz, they will have the safety
26:54
Speaker 2: to that side. Okada he will come over and cover that,
26:58
Speaker 2: and that's very common. But he will have deep responsibility
27:02
Speaker 2: if the if the receiver runs a go route up
27:05
Speaker 2: that sideline, o'cada replacing over the over the top. He's
27:10
Speaker 2: got him on a go route. But what Mike McDonald
27:13
Speaker 2: did is he said, no, I'm going to run a
27:15
Speaker 2: cloud defense to the side of the cat, which means
27:19
Speaker 2: Ocada is gonna come down. He doesn't have deep responsibility.
27:23
Speaker 2: He has the flat and you've got Kobe Bryant who
27:26
Speaker 2: had been way over on the other hash. He's screaming
27:29
Speaker 2: to get over the top of Okada. So Coada doesn't
27:32
Speaker 2: have to take the deep guy. He can just he
27:34
Speaker 2: can just kind of eyeball and play underneath, knowing that
27:37
Speaker 2: he's got Kobe Bryant coming from the other side of
27:40
Speaker 2: the field to get over the top of him. And
27:43
Speaker 2: so that confusion. So what is Jaydon Daniels dealing with
27:47
Speaker 2: He's dealing with an athlete to the level of Witherspoon
27:50
Speaker 2: coming untouched in the B gap and he's got a
27:55
Speaker 2: totally unconventional side adjustment where's receiver that they're totally of communication.
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Speaker 2: He throws it up there. Ocada is able to just
28:04
Speaker 2: eyeball at the corner or excuse me, the quarterback because
28:08
Speaker 2: he's got help behind him, and he just he just plays,
28:11
Speaker 2: you know, sandlot ball, reaches up and and and says, okay,
28:14
Speaker 2: you want to throw it over there. But there was
28:15
Speaker 2: clear miscommunication on on where the receiver should be. Uh uh.
28:20
Speaker 2: The receiver's going in uh. Jadon and Daniels thought he
28:23
Speaker 2: was going out. But I guarantee you they you don't
28:26
Speaker 2: see that type of a blitz. So yes, unbelievable to
28:29
Speaker 2: play by Okada, but a very very detailed, complex blitz
28:37
Speaker 2: that Jaden Daniels had to deal with. And that's how
28:39
Speaker 2: you forced those kind of complete I mean the seaops
28:41
Speaker 2: only they only rushed a DBS on five reps last night, five,
28:48
Speaker 2: but that you had one out of four completions for
28:54
Speaker 2: ten yards a sack uh and a pardon me, a
28:59
Speaker 2: seven yard scram on fourth and fifteen that that was
29:03
Speaker 2: an unsuccessful play obviously turnover on down, but one of
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Speaker 2: four for ten yards and one interception and that interception.
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Speaker 2: So it's like Mike McDonald, he doesn't love the blitz,
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Speaker 2: but when he does it, he really makes it hard
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Speaker 2: on you and it's going to be successful as defined
29:21
Speaker 2: by successful plays. The Commanders were one out of five
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Speaker 2: offensively anytime they were blitzed, counting that interception.
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Speaker 3: All right, coming up next, our QB one will discuss
29:33
Speaker 3: whether dan Quinn should have taken out their QB one.
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Speaker 2: Mike Homer and will.
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Speaker 3: Join us at nine o'clock this morning, as he always
29:49
Speaker 3: does on a Monday morning session. Hugh and coach together.
29:53
Speaker 3: It's like chocolate and peanut butter. Too great taste to
29:56
Speaker 3: go great together.
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Speaker 2: I have had a lot of coaching, Hugh over the.
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Speaker 4: Coaching, Hugh cups, Yeah, a lot a lot. My kids
30:04
Speaker 4: killed it and they know I love it. So like
30:07
Speaker 4: every few minutes here, Dad have one of these. I'm like, okay,
30:12
Speaker 4: give me some more, coach and Hugh, I'm just trying
30:15
Speaker 4: to support my friends.
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Speaker 3: All right, Well, one more segment here with just Hugh
30:21
Speaker 3: and I got to get your take on what happened
30:24
Speaker 3: at the end of the ball game. I was expecting
30:26
Speaker 3: to wake up this morning to analysis all over the
30:29
Speaker 3: country about how awesome Sam Darnold and the Seahawks looked
30:32
Speaker 3: last night, and instead it was pretty much all about
30:35
Speaker 3: whether or not Dan Quinn ruined the Commanders by letting
30:39
Speaker 3: Jade and Daniels continue to play even though they were
30:41
Speaker 3: getting blown out.
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Speaker 2: What was your take on that, Well, I think it
30:47
Speaker 2: was obviously unfortunate, but I am very I would be
30:52
Speaker 2: very critical of critics in this in the following regard,
30:56
Speaker 2: I would just hold you to a consistency and let
31:00
Speaker 2: me dive into this. Since twenty and twenty, there have
31:05
Speaker 2: been twenty let me go back to sorry, let me
31:08
Speaker 2: go back to the situation. So the score was thirty
31:12
Speaker 2: eight to seven and there were seven on that play
31:14
Speaker 2: was snaped seven thirty nine to go. So what I
31:17
Speaker 2: did is I filtered since twenty and twenty. I just
31:21
Speaker 2: no reason I picked that. At just beginning of the decade,
31:25
Speaker 2: the situations were that these factors, these filters starting quarterback
31:33
Speaker 2: still in the game, under eight minutes down thirty one
31:37
Speaker 2: points some more got me. Essentially, I'm trying to duplicate
31:41
Speaker 2: what we had. Twenty nine starters have thrown at least
31:46
Speaker 2: one pass in those situations. There have been constituting two
31:53
Speaker 2: hundred and forty three dropbacks and two hundred and twenty
31:56
Speaker 2: four pass attempts, fourteen sacks, and a few scrambles. Here's
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Speaker 2: a list of some of the quarterbacks. And you tell
32:05
Speaker 2: me if these guys sound like maybe franchise and or
32:09
Speaker 2: top draft pick, Pro Bowl level type guys. Okay, Jared
32:14
Speaker 2: Goff has thirty pass attempts in those situations since twenty twenty.
32:20
Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger twenty one. Tom Brady, he had a couple
32:24
Speaker 2: against the Saints. I went back and watched the plays.
32:27
Speaker 2: He got hit by two guys when the score was
32:30
Speaker 2: forty one and nothing in an early November game against
32:34
Speaker 2: the Saints, and that was twenty twenty. They won the
32:37
Speaker 2: Super Bowl that year. When he got hit by two guys,
32:40
Speaker 2: What if he would have separated his shoulder? About how
32:43
Speaker 2: about Gino Smith as a Seattle Seahawks so you've seen
32:46
Speaker 2: it as a Seahawk fan against the Ravens, Russell Wilson,
32:50
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, bo Nicks, Baker Mayfield, Justin Herbert has twelve
32:55
Speaker 2: pass attempts in that situation too, attack of Aloa, Bryce On,
33:00
Speaker 2: cam Ward Kirk Cousins, and obviously many more. There's twenty
33:04
Speaker 2: nine starters. So my challenge to ESPN or anybody else where,
33:09
Speaker 2: were you when all of those dropbacks and those attempts
33:13
Speaker 2: and those sacks were taking place, where you then saying
33:16
Speaker 2: what the hell is he doing in there? Even though
33:19
Speaker 2: he didn't get hurt? This is absurd. If if in
33:22
Speaker 2: fact you were, then you were being consistent and and
33:24
Speaker 2: and I'll retract my criticism. But other than that, look,
33:28
Speaker 2: there's a reason why coaches do this. And and in
33:32
Speaker 2: the case of of of Jaydon Daniels, he's already missed
33:38
Speaker 2: time with a knee, he's missed time with a hamstring
33:41
Speaker 2: two different times. They had to sit him down. They're
33:44
Speaker 2: trying to get some continuity, get some confidence, like, hey,
33:46
Speaker 2: let's score here late, we'll feel better about ourselves and
33:51
Speaker 2: and and get a little momentum going into the next game.
33:53
Speaker 2: That's that's generally why coaches want to do that. And
33:57
Speaker 2: we've seen it a lot. I just gave you the
33:59
Speaker 2: no and to just all of a sudden pick the
34:02
Speaker 2: one time a guy gets hurt and then just say, oh,
34:05
Speaker 2: this is a breach of any coaching common sense or
34:09
Speaker 2: whatever else they're throwing at dan Quinn this morning. To me,
34:15
Speaker 2: just just bite it because you don't realize how hypercritical
34:20
Speaker 2: you're being, because I never heard you complaining about that
34:23
Speaker 2: in the exact same situation when guys were throwing the
34:26
Speaker 2: ball and they didn't get hurt.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, coming from a player's perspective, and especially
34:32
Speaker 4: in the sport of football, I mean, I can't imagine
34:34
Speaker 4: there's a huge difference between that and the sport that
34:37
Speaker 4: I played obviously, So where is the line of what
34:41
Speaker 4: the feel is? I mean, we know that like the
34:42
Speaker 4: very next play they ran it right in there. It
34:45
Speaker 4: does feel like there's the players while you got to
34:48
Speaker 4: play without fear. When something like that happens, fear has
34:52
Speaker 4: to creep into the minds of the guys a little bit,
34:54
Speaker 4: the reality of injuries just right around the corner.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean you can call it fear. I think,
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Speaker 2: you know, maybe a cousin of fear. I think it's
35:02
Speaker 2: a little apprehension. It's like whoa, it's you know, I
35:05
Speaker 2: think it drives home. It's thirty eight to seven. This
35:08
Speaker 2: game is is is already, it's in the it's in
35:12
Speaker 2: the locker. Uh, let's let's just kind of ride this
35:15
Speaker 2: thing out. And you know, credit dan Quinn, he saw
35:18
Speaker 2: what he did. The rest of both coaches basically said,
35:21
Speaker 2: let's let's just get this game over. We're just gonna
35:25
Speaker 2: plunge the running back into the line of scrimmage. Nothing,
35:28
Speaker 2: you know, about as basic as you can sort of
35:30
Speaker 2: taking knees. We're gonna do everything we can to just
35:33
Speaker 2: get this damn game over. And and so I do
35:36
Speaker 2: think it is on the you know, it's a challenge
35:39
Speaker 2: for players to just you know, get that out of
35:41
Speaker 2: their head after they see something gruesome like that. For
35:43
Speaker 2: the Commanders, it was you know, it wasn't just a
35:46
Speaker 2: gruesome injury. It's it's your quarterback, it's your you know,
35:49
Speaker 2: this guy's been a you know, a young but very
35:52
Speaker 2: uh you know, I think dynamic leader in many respects.
35:57
Speaker 2: So I think I think that there was a malaise
35:59
Speaker 2: that that took over the game, and I think that
36:02
Speaker 2: everybody sensed it. The coaches did the right thing at
36:05
Speaker 2: the end. It just end it. And you know, but
36:08
Speaker 2: that's that's ball. Everybody knows. Everybody knows when they walk
36:12
Speaker 2: out that tunnel that that this could be the day
36:16
Speaker 2: that they they they leave the tunnel strapped to a gurney.
36:21
Speaker 2: Everybody knows that. And you know it's not it's not
36:24
Speaker 2: fun to dwell on that, but everybody knows that's the reality.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well here here I said something similar earlier in
36:31
Speaker 3: the show. I didn't have all the evidence to back
36:33
Speaker 3: it up, but it felt to me like I've seen
36:36
Speaker 3: plenty of quarterbacks you have still playing late and fourth
36:40
Speaker 3: quarters of games. They were getting blown out by and
36:42
Speaker 3: for all the reasons that you stated eloquently. So Hugh
36:45
Speaker 3: mellan will stay with us, so we got a lot
36:47
Speaker 3: more to analyze. Coach homern Will joined the conversation in
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