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Gordie Chiesa Hour on the NBA evaluating Lauri's MRI, Betting partners influencing NBA's response to tanking, 65 game too strict (?) + mo... · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: He's out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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  Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not get crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Come for the hoops talk, stay for his list of
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  Speaker 2: the day A list today.
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  Speaker 1: Here's o C with.
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  Speaker 2: Basketball savon Gordy Chiaysa on the Shan O'Connell show.
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  Speaker 1: I'm on find.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Shaan O'Connell show.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome in our resident NBA guru, Gordy Chiasa. He's here
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  Speaker 4: in studio with us for the next hour or so.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy welcome.
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  Speaker 1: How are you, sir showing I'm doing well, Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Lowry Marketen injured in practice, going to have an MRI
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  Speaker 4: on the hip, and that has set off a little
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  Speaker 4: firestorm of conversation about league oversight on these injury situations.
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  Speaker 4: There's some nuance to this, It would appear after Tony Jones,
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  Speaker 4: who initially reported that the NBA was gonna double check
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  Speaker 4: whatever the results were with the Utah Jazz. Now that
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  Speaker 4: tweet has since been deleted, but the accurate language, according
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  Speaker 4: to Tony himself, is that and all the league is
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  Speaker 4: still going to evaluate. Maybe the tweet was deleted because
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  Speaker 4: it suggested that the league was actually gonna send people
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  Speaker 4: to Salt Lake City. Who knows, But Gordy, you've been
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  Speaker 4: around the league longer than most.
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  Speaker 3: Of us have been watching it, and.
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  Speaker 4: Is this Has this ever been something that happens with
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  Speaker 4: the league where they're like, oh, so and so got injured. Well,
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  Speaker 4: let the league itself check up on how severe that
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  Speaker 4: injury is or do they defer to teams?
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  Speaker 1: They defer to teams.
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  Speaker 5: This is I had never heard before in my life
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  Speaker 5: with the NBA where they're so in with the injury
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  Speaker 5: and you know, the team doctors they have to document it.
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  Speaker 5: So players get hurt in practice, So Larry Marketing for
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  Speaker 5: the listeners, right ankle and write hip injury yesterday. In
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  Speaker 5: practice you're taking an MRI, So we don't know the MRI.
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  Speaker 5: I what as far as what the results are right now?
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  Speaker 5: And the NBA right now is overreacting to anything that
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  Speaker 5: the Utah Jazz do right now, which is absolutely unfortunate.
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  Speaker 5: And I always said mentioning it to you last week's sewing.
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  Speaker 5: Why is the NBA picking on the Jazz of all teams?
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  Speaker 5: Because many teams have the exact same issues, but they're
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  Speaker 5: signaling out to Jazz, So there's no way that they're
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  Speaker 5: going to send a doctor out here. The team doctors
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  Speaker 5: that are professional, they're going to document with the MRI
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  Speaker 5: whether what what type of injury is right now, then
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  Speaker 5: the Jazz decide whether they're going to play them or not.
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  Speaker 4: And I think it's important to note that when you're
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  Speaker 4: talking about these injuries, it's not like there's a threshold,
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  Speaker 4: like there's uniform normity to Let's say they do find
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  Speaker 4: something a tear of some kind of partial tear of
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  Speaker 4: some kind, there are some players who are going to say, Oh,
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  Speaker 4: this is a pain management thing. I'll play through this.
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  Speaker 4: Oh there's one year left in my career, I'll play
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  Speaker 4: through this. Oh we're headed to the NBA Finals this year,
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  Speaker 4: I'll play through this. It's not like a binary thing
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  Speaker 4: where it's, oh, it's a broken ankle, you can't play
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  Speaker 4: until that bone is healed. When we're talking about soft
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  Speaker 4: tissue injuries, and you know the evaluation of soft tissue injuries,
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  Speaker 4: you have to take everything into context. So given that,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, even if the league does want to oversee
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  Speaker 4: what the Utah team does. It doesn't mean they know
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  Speaker 4: anything about Lowry Markinen's pain threshold. It doesn't mean they
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  Speaker 4: know anything about like his growth plates. It doesn't like
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  Speaker 4: there's so many things that can affect what you see
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  Speaker 4: in an image and whether or not that is a
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  Speaker 4: disqualifier from competing at a high level or not agreed.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, that's something at Also, Larry Marketing is having to
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  Speaker 5: create high as far as points per game average at
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  Speaker 5: twenty six points, seven points per game, and now he's
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  Speaker 5: averaging a solid seven rebounds and he's a big part
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  Speaker 5: of the future. And if he's if he's hurt right now,
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  Speaker 5: the Jazz are going to use good judgment and not
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  Speaker 5: play him. So I'm assuming he's hurt. So I'm gonna
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  Speaker 5: take the glass is half fill approach where he's hurt,
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  Speaker 5: he wants to play, but he's.
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  Speaker 1: Hurt right now.
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  Speaker 5: Take an MRA And they've not shown as a few
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  Speaker 5: minutes ago, they've not announced the results yet. They've not
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  Speaker 5: announced it, so it's all speculative right now. But the NBA,
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  Speaker 5: they are looking at the Jazz a much closer viewpoint
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  Speaker 5: than the other teams, which I feel is absolutely unfortunate.
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  Speaker 5: Remember now, Larry Marketing. There's an element right now, there's
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  Speaker 5: twenty four games left, and so the Jazz are right
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  Speaker 5: now the thirteenth place with the record of eighteen and
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  Speaker 5: forty and they've lost three the last games in a row,
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  Speaker 5: and the Jazz are going to the number on priority
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  Speaker 5: right now is to protect their their draft pick this
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  Speaker 5: year in the twenty twenty six draft, where if it's
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  Speaker 5: eight or below, they keep the pick. If it's not above,
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  Speaker 5: it goes to the OKC thunder. So that's part of
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  Speaker 5: the backdrop that the NBA is looking at. But if
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  Speaker 5: the guy's hurt right now with an injury, the Jazz
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  Speaker 5: are going to use good judgment as far as playing
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  Speaker 5: them and not playing them.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, it's just a clarification here.
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  Speaker 4: Tony Jones, who's kind of at the center of this
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  Speaker 4: and is a long time Jazz insider, and you know
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  Speaker 4: he's a good reporter. He just tweeted this Lowry Marketen
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  Speaker 4: is undergoing his MRI. I'm told so the Jazz should
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  Speaker 4: have results coming. The NBA is evaluating the results a
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  Speaker 4: standard practice. They did not send medical personnel to Utah,
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  Speaker 4: so it's like we were just hypothesizing. He said that
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  Speaker 4: part I got wrong. My apologies. So again, there's no
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  Speaker 4: functional difference because an MRI is a picture that is taken.
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  Speaker 4: It's not even something that has to be conducted by
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  Speaker 4: a doctor. It is an MRI tech. You can go
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  Speaker 4: to a trade school and you can learn how to
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  Speaker 4: do this. And I'm not trying to diminish that because
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  Speaker 4: it's a great field to be in and these medical
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  Speaker 4: images are an important part of the diagnostic and treatment process.
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  Speaker 4: But you don't have to send medical personnel to Utah.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't change the point of what we're talking about here.
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  Speaker 4: If the league office is saying, no, I need to
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  Speaker 4: see that picture, I need to see that image. We
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  Speaker 4: need to double check your work. That is the crux
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  Speaker 4: of the argument here. And Tony says NBA's evaluating the
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  Speaker 4: results as standard practice.
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  Speaker 3: How standard is that practice?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, do they make sure that they get the
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  Speaker 4: results from every injury from every team. If the answer
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  Speaker 4: to that is no, then you're absolutely singling out the
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  Speaker 4: Jazz here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very much. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: To my knowledge, I've been an MBA for thirty eight
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  Speaker 5: years now, I've never heard this scrutiny of an injury
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  Speaker 5: because remember, players want to perform and if you if
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  Speaker 5: you can't play because of an injury, then the doctors
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  Speaker 5: decide who plays, not the player. The doctors do. And
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  Speaker 5: these doctors are professional, let's let's say the least. And
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  Speaker 5: you know, Sean, I was, I'm looking at this, uh,
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  Speaker 5: this injury. Remember now you're staring right now across the
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  Speaker 5: headsets of somebody with two fake emphasize fake hips with
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  Speaker 5: as far as surgery, so I know firsthand about it.
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  Speaker 5: If you're you got if you got hitting it in
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  Speaker 5: the during practice, will you fall down, you crash to
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  Speaker 5: the ground, you sprain your ankle if you knows it's
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  Speaker 5: a right hip, also it's the right ankle. So he
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  Speaker 5: fell on his right side of his body in practice.
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  Speaker 5: He probably got tangled up going for a rebound and
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  Speaker 5: he crashed to the floor. Because remember in the NBA,
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  Speaker 5: it's so hard to practice, you know, as far there's
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  Speaker 5: so few days we actually practice once the season starts.
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  Speaker 1: So yesterday is one of those days.
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  Speaker 5: And uh, I'm sure he got hurt. And that's what
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  Speaker 5: they're taking the m R to be to be becautionary
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  Speaker 5: about it. Also show it's a business situation, you know,
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  Speaker 5: Larry markining is a huge part of the Jazz going forward,
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  Speaker 5: and his contract is this year and three more years out.
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  Speaker 5: So next year it makes forty six point one million,
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  Speaker 5: forty nine point eight in the twenty seven twenty eight season,
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  Speaker 5: the twenty eight twenty nine season, he makes fifty three
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  Speaker 5: point five million.
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  Speaker 1: So guess what.
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  Speaker 5: The Jazz have a lot of things vested in him,
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  Speaker 5: and they're going to make sure that he's okay, he's
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  Speaker 5: ready to play.
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  Speaker 4: We will await the results with baited breath. We will
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  Speaker 4: tell you what's coming. We will tell you whatever the
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  Speaker 4: Utah Jazz announced regarding Lowry's injury.
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  Speaker 5: So on this firestorm all started because the Jazz were paid.
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  Speaker 5: We've got fined five hundred thousand dollars by the league
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  Speaker 5: office about twelve days ago, now whatever it was, and
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  Speaker 5: that's how it all started. Now with the scrutiny, and
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  Speaker 5: Rick Carlo just said two days ago that he questioned
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  Speaker 5: the NBA they're fine of one hundred thousand dollars of playing.
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  Speaker 5: And also Rick Carlisle is the president of the Coaches Association,
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  Speaker 5: So Sean, that's part of the backdrop. Also Sean so
• 9:12
  Speaker 5: which means he's defending all the coaches in the NBA.
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  Speaker 5: Is happening to me. This is what I'm going to say.
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  Speaker 5: This is what I'm saying about our situation to make
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  Speaker 5: you aware of it. There's any problems with the NBA,
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  Speaker 5: you talk to me about it, and I'll be the
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  Speaker 5: front and center because that's what I do. As far
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  Speaker 5: as being elected as the president of the Coaches Association,
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  Speaker 5: which is an alliance of thirty head coaches and thirty
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  Speaker 5: head thirty coaching staffs.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I don't like seeing the Jazz at the center
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  Speaker 4: of any kind of firestorm here. Given the context of
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  Speaker 4: what this team needs to happen right now, you need
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  Speaker 4: to you need to see the team climb the ladder
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  Speaker 4: in terms of an NBA draft to where you can
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  Speaker 4: get one of these top three four p aspects that
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  Speaker 4: are in this upcoming draft. The rebuild, I think has
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  Speaker 4: been accelerated by the trade that happened a couple of
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  Speaker 4: weeks ago, but it is so far from being complete,
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  Speaker 4: and we learned this last year. You can't assume a
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  Speaker 4: positive result by any stretch of the imagination with the
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  Speaker 4: NBA Draft lottery, So maximizing those odds while you're on
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  Speaker 4: the you know what list of the NBA office doesn't
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  Speaker 4: seem like it's very likely agreed.
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  Speaker 5: For the listeners. Last year, the Jazz had the worst
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  Speaker 5: record in basketball. There was the three worst teams have
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  Speaker 5: a fourteen percent chance of getting the first pick of
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  Speaker 5: the draft, and it did not fall to them. The
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  Speaker 5: Jazz got the fifth pick, and that is a very
• 10:43
  Speaker 5: talented player in Ace Belly, and I'm sure they're a
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  Speaker 5: static if you're going to pick number five. He was
• 10:48
  Speaker 5: the guy they took, and Aces having an excellent rookie
• 10:52
  Speaker 5: season and you get the feeling that he's going to
• 10:54
  Speaker 5: be terrific each year out, and he's a He was
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  Speaker 5: a smart pick by the Jazz. Was the right pick, Sean.
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  Speaker 5: This is not me talking about a colleague of mine
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  Speaker 5: told me this that part of the reason why the
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  Speaker 5: NBA is so vocal about this is because you remember, now, Sewan,
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  Speaker 5: it's legal to bet on NBA games and the Draftking
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  Speaker 5: is part of the equation right now where Draft King is,
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  Speaker 5: the Sean is a is a sponsor of the betting
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  Speaker 5: site for NBA games. And so remember, Sean, besides you
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  Speaker 5: and James Peterson, you guys are very competent. You know,
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  Speaker 5: it's also very competent, Sean. The odds makers in Vegas.
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  Speaker 5: They never get it wrong sean ninety percent of the time.
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  Speaker 5: So here's the question, what does Sean O'Connell and James
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  Speaker 5: Peterson have in common with the odds makers in Vegas.
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  Speaker 3: We always get it right.
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  Speaker 5: You always get it right, at least ninety percent of it.
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  Speaker 5: And so suddenly the this is the colleague of mine
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  Speaker 5: told me this. That suddenly wait a second, Hey, wait
• 11:57
  Speaker 5: a second, in the fourth quarter of these games right now,
• 12:01
  Speaker 5: with these people are betting you, we won't correct me.
• 12:03
  Speaker 5: I don't bet ever, so life betting by during game shows.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: Let yeah, you do it.
• 12:07
  Speaker 5: Okay, So suddenly these people are betting on these games,
• 12:10
  Speaker 5: and wait a second, they're not playing these guys in
• 12:12
  Speaker 5: the fourth quarter. That tilted a lot of things as
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  Speaker 5: far as the odds. And that's part of the reason
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  Speaker 5: why that the NBA is very in tune about this
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  Speaker 5: makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Lots left to get to.
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  Speaker 4: We will get away from the lowry marketed controversy because
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  Speaker 4: we don't have any real hardcore answers on it.
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  Speaker 3: Yet.
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  Speaker 4: There's plenty left to get to in the association, including
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  Speaker 4: with the jazz.
• 12:35
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  Speaker 4: Gordia Chiasa here in studio with us Uh Gordi. We
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  Speaker 4: were just talking about this in the break. There's uh
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  Speaker 4: clutch points in the NBA. First of all, you have
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  Speaker 4: to be in situations that are regarded as clutch, which
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  Speaker 4: means you have to be playing in games that are
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  Speaker 4: decently closed before you could be on these clutch The
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  Speaker 4: Jazz are out of this conversation right now.
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  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, yes they are so.
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  Speaker 5: The players though, it's the clutch points means that is
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  Speaker 5: that your team is five points differential under five minutes.
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  Speaker 5: So that's the criteria. So your team is you're playing
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  Speaker 5: in a game where there's five points differential with five
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  Speaker 5: minutes and under left in the game. So the leaders
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  Speaker 5: are right now as far as the most differential by
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  Speaker 5: the players as far as being positive. Number one leader
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  Speaker 5: in the NBA is Tyrese Maxi of the seventy six is.
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  Speaker 5: He's one hundred and thirty seven. Number two is sha
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  Speaker 5: Jalis Alexander of the OKC Thunder, He's one twenty eight.
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  Speaker 5: Number three Anthony Edwards of the Tee Wolves is one
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  Speaker 5: twenty one, Kate Cunningham of Detroit Pistons is one fifteen,
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  Speaker 5: Jamal Murray of the Devin Nuggets is one ten, and
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  Speaker 5: the sixth player is Nikolai Jokic of the Nuggets, also
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  Speaker 5: at one oh one. And so it just shows you
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  Speaker 5: that these clutch players that they lead their teams and
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  Speaker 5: direct correlation with Kay Cunningham being there and shay Jules Alexander,
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  Speaker 5: they lead their teams in first place in each each conference.
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  Speaker 5: Where the Pistons are forty three and fourteen and the
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  Speaker 5: Thunder of forty on five and fifteen. And so the
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  Speaker 5: question right now is is.
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  Speaker 1: The MVP.
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  Speaker 5: So part of this discussion right now, the Sean and
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  Speaker 5: I had of off air was about the MVP race,
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  Speaker 5: which is actually a factor. So at least six guys
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  Speaker 5: right now, the top three this is just my opinion.
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  Speaker 5: Now the top three that that have I was voting,
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  Speaker 5: I'd vote number one j Jills Alexander as the leading
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  Speaker 5: candidate for MVP. Number two, I'd vote Nikolai Jokic, and
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  Speaker 5: number three and climbing is Kane Cunningham. Those three, and
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: then number four is Victor Wemby Amber and number five
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  Speaker 5: it's hard to imagine, but number five he's vastly underrated.
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  Speaker 5: He's never in the discussion for some bizarre reason. Is
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: Jeleen Brown of the Celtics. So those five guys I'm
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  Speaker 5: saying should be the leading candidates for MVP. And part
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: of the segue is because of the uch shooting ability
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  Speaker 5: and basket making in the fourth quarter. What about h
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: luk at Dantag. The answer is, yeah, he's gonna get
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  Speaker 5: some votes to the MVP, but you get the but
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  Speaker 5: he's not one of the leaders as far as clutch points,
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  Speaker 5: as far as under five with five points or less.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're saying the reason.
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  Speaker 5: Part of the reason why could because the Lakers don't
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  Speaker 5: play in a lot of games where the Lakers either
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  Speaker 5: win big or lose big.
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  Speaker 1: And that's part of it. Also, I get it.
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  Speaker 5: But when you're a winner, you're involved in a lot
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  Speaker 5: of close games, both home and away. That's why you
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  Speaker 5: that's why you have a great record, because those games
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  Speaker 5: where you don't fee, you're not shooting well, but you
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  Speaker 5: somehow you just grind it out and win by two
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  Speaker 5: or three. And these guys I mentioned above right now,
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  Speaker 5: these guys lead the charge.
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  Speaker 3: There's a graph. I'll find it and tweet it.
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  Speaker 4: There's a graph out there that shows the the most
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  Speaker 4: the highest clutch shooting percentage by teams, by players, et cetera.
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  Speaker 4: And unfortunately the Jazz are way down at the bottom
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  Speaker 4: because they haven't been in those games. They haven't been
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  Speaker 4: in the in the close games. They've deliberately in a
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  Speaker 4: lot of cases, not been in those games.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 5: And that's where again, that's why winning close games, whether
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  Speaker 5: it's in the NBA or the NFL, it comes down
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  Speaker 5: to one star power there was. These guys have ball
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  Speaker 5: skills and the mental capacity to score the ball when
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: the defense is absolutely really strong and so I call
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  Speaker 5: that they make something out of nothing often.
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  Speaker 1: So think about these guys.
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  Speaker 5: Terse MAXI good, tremendous one on one player, got elevation game,
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  Speaker 5: Sha jillis Alexander, one of the best drivers in the game.
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  Speaker 5: Excuse me, Anthony Edwards three point shooter. And also what
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  Speaker 5: a tremendous acrobatic finisher. Kate Cunningham. He almost has an
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  Speaker 5: old school like back back down game the way he plays.
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  Speaker 5: Jamal Murray, that guy's feel us in the fourth quarter
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: with games. And then Nikolai Joki where we all know
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: about him is that he is as a tremendous, unbelievable talent,
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: he's almost impossible to guard. But I would lean towards
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: this year again, the defending MVP would be s Jills Alexander.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: Now he's missed eleven games. And you know the rules
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: right now as far as Sean being MVP, is that
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: the criteria who was put in the twenty three to
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: twenty fourth season. You have to play in sixty five
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: games to qualify for and be eligible for any of
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: the major award recognitions. All right, So the players you
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: agree with that with the NBA to mandate that the
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: clause combined individual individual, It takes away from teams. Segway
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: also about resting guys when they're healthy, and so this
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: is why the NBA wants to have their star players
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: and much they can be on the court.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Well, that's that's an interesting thing. I want to take
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: a break here.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: I want to come back and talk about that sixty
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: five game manshold the mandate because you know there there's
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: obvious utility to it. Is it serving the fan is
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: we know that the broadcast partners like it, but is
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: it helping the fan base?
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: We'll take a quick one.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: We'll come back with Gordon Chiaza talk for another twenty
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: five minutes or so. It's the Shawn O'Connell Show on
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: ESPN seven hundred and ninety two.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: You were listening to the Sean O'Connell Show from the
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Murdoch Hunting Studio of ESPN seven.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Hundred and ninety two to one.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Alf A m the sixty five game threshold for end
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: of season awards. It was agreed upon by the league's
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: broadcast partners. It was agreed upon by the Players Association,
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: It was agreed upon by all the powerful parties in
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: the NBA. Because well, like Gordy already stated, for obvious reasons,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: you want the best players to be able to play.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Players were like, Okay, I've got certain clauses in my contract.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: If I make All NBA, I get another bonus, I
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: get to unlock a potential Supermax contract, whatever. But I'm
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: gonna agree that I'll play at least sixty five games.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Here in the load management era of the NBA, sixty
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: five might be too high of a number, and it's
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: starting to be looked at again. For example, Gordy, Steph Curry,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Lebron James Jannis, Anthony Davis. But I don't think he
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: was gonna be anything anyway. Those guys are already ineligible
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: because they haven't played sixty five games.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: They mathematically cannot play sixty five games.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard can miss three more games and then he's ineligible.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Nikola Jokic, he can miss one more game and then
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: he's ineligible. Victor Wembinyama three more games before he's ineligible
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: for All NBA, All Defense, MVP, Defensive Player of the Year,
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Most Improved Player. I just named for you most of
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: the important players in the NBA, and they're not going
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: to be eligible for these postseason awards if they miss
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: more games.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Correct, And you could think these four teams that over
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: the years abuse of sitting out players. They were the Spurs,
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: the MAVs, the Cavs, and the Clippers. Those are the
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: four franchises historically and institutionally they set out guys. And
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: that's where the NBA and more importantly showings alluding to
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: the partners meaning television. If your television, your your your TV,
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: and you spend billions of dollars on the contract and
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of eyeballs gonna watch this certain game
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: and you set out a player and were usually shown
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: with the Spurs, it was that Tim Duncan see. That
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: was Tim Duncan often set out some back to back
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: games and Tony Parker and minor to nobili and then
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: the NBA said to the with the TV partners really
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: leading to charge, we can't do this, and that created this.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: So if you make All League and you make Defensive
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: Player of the Year, that means besides having an elite
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: skill set, is that also that season you're you do
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: you had very few injuries f at all, and you
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: give the following year you can play even better as
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: far as statistically and your team did played wonderful. Your team,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: but you miss games you wouldn't, you'll be ineligible. So
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: it's a slippery slope for those people. And that's why
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: it's so important if you're if you're not injured, play.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: The defending m v P.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Shade Gildess Alexander has already missed eleven games.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Got five left. Yeah, he's got six left.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: He's got six left. I mean, it gets it gets dicey.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: And and the reason for me like, is this serving
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: is this serving the broadcast partners? I kind of don't
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: care because that's of my pay grade. Is this serving
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: the fans? Well, that's what the NBA should really be doing.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: And I don't want load management to be the thing
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: that it is. I don't want guys to be sitting out.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: I don't want I don't want people who are compensated
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: tens of millions of dollars every year to say, oh,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: this job is too hard for me to be expected
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: to show up to work every day.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I think that's ridiculous. I think that's silly.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: But I also don't want to see someone who's MVP
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: worthy MVP caliber eliminated from contention on a technicality, especially
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: if he rushes himself back as quickly as he possibly can,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: maybe misses eighteen twenty games, but still plays at an
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: MVP or at least an all league level, You're gonna
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: say he's not the MVP and instead Jalen Brown is.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: That's bananas.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: The NBA having an MVP by default is not good
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: for the fans.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: It's not good for anyway.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: If the MVP award goes to someone who is not
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: the most important, the best player in the NBA, because
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: that person missed too many games, especially with legitimate injury,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: we have now missed the point of the award.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: Now, with that said, so the wild card right now
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: is Kate Cunningham, who's having an absolutely incredible season. His
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: team's in first place. He is, he's a walking double
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: double every single game, he plays tremendous defense, he's a
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: world class leader, and he's the catalyst for the Pistons,
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: And so Sean if it was the fault, just hypothetically,
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: as far as the narrative right now, United discussing and
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: listeners right now driving in the car, they're they're focusing,
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: it's focusing on Nikolai Joki and Shajs Alexander that Kate Cunningham,
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: if he got the MVP, he's absolutely worthy of it
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: because he's on the best team. Remember, now, the question
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: is who votes. The coaches don't vote. It's the it's
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: the accredited media personnel around the NBA. It's roughly one
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: hundred and twenty five people vote on the MVP, so
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: it's not voted by the coaches. And that's a different
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: factor also because sometimes you not sometimes often coaches would
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: vote differently as far as MVP. They would because they
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: view the game much differently than we, say, just the
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: media that understands the game, but they look at mostly
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: only scoring, which is absolutely important I get, but also
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: the intangibles of leading your team. So if Kate got it,
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: the Pistons are forty three and fourteen. The home record
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: is twenty two and seven, and more importantly, the away
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: record is twenty and seven. So he's leading the charge
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: both home and away for his franchise. And you know
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: for the Pistons, if you're a Detroit fan, is that
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Let's not forget two seasons ago they lost twenty eight
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: straight games in a row, so they go Kate Cunningham
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: has led the franchise for the last five years to
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: this renaissance, and he's worthy of being MVP.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Is he worthy of being MVP in a fully loaded
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: race that includes SGA, Jokic, etcetera. Or is he worthy
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: of being MVP because he played more than those guys
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: who are going to be ineligible if they can't meet
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: the sixty five game threshold.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: No, this year he's worthy. Yeah, sure, and this year
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: you can. This year he's absolutely worthy. Yeah, he's right
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: there as far as him see a lot of times.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: Also it's it's a bias, you know, where if you
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: don't see a guy play all the time. In other words,
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: like everybody knows Nikolai Jokic from the championship level that
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: you know back in twenty twenty three and there were
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: champions and then shay Jos Alexander he was champions. But really,
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Detroit Pistons, I thought the Celts are better than the Pitchs.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: No, they're not.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Detroit's having a great year. And Detroit also so last
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: season had a really good alleger where it's the Pistons
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: won less last year forty four games and thirty eight.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: So this year they're gonna win close to fifty eight games,
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: and so that's the bias where that the media, if
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: they didn't vote Ky Cunningham the MVP because he's worthy
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: of it, is because they don't realize how good he
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: is yet because of the team's success of not consecutive seasons,
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: so it's the one time right now, but they're trending
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: up from last year, and so that's part of it also,
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: and it's important to understand that that being m VP
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: means that you're the most valuable player usually on a
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: absolutely winning team, not the best team, but if this
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: time it is the best team though with them them
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: in the Thunder, but winning team, So look at doctor,
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: you're gonna make a discussion. Also, is a tremendous player
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: MVP as far as statistics, but his team isn't as
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: good this year.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Is it his fault?
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: No, not really, not totally. But the Lakers right now
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: the thirty four and twenty three much different than the
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: thunder forty five and fifteen and seun with the Nuggets.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: As far as defending Nikola Jokic, let's not forget to
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: play with that. Alan Gordon amused the whole season, and
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: that's impressive what he's done.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Gordy Chase is here with us for a few more
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: minutes on the Sean O'Connell Show. Gordy in the conversation
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: about tanking in the NBA and how the league can
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: control tanking. There's been all these crazy proposals put now
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: put out there. Some of them I think are crazy,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: some of them not so crazy. I like the idea
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: that I'm reading in this one.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you have seen this, but one of the
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: proposals out there is that right now most of you
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: out there know this. Right now, the team with the
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: most losses has the best odds to get the number
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: one pick in the draft lottery. There's a proposal that
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: instead of racking up the losses being incentivized at the
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: All Star break, you would flip to where now instead
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: of rewarding losses now the teams that are in that
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: lottery position, the wins count towards bettering your odds. So
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: the harder you try after the All Star break, after
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: the tail end of the season, the better you do there.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: That improves your draft odds.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: So you would lop off the bottom of the league
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: after the All Star week or All Star weekend you'd say,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: all right, these are the teams that are gonna be
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: in our draft lottery. Now it's a race to the end,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: how many of you can get wins and try to
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: maximize and you would you'd basically count wins in the
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: second half of the season the way that you count
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: losses in the first half of the season. It gets
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: convoluted when you're talking about teams that are like borderline good,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: borderline bad.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: But what do you think of that as a proposal.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: It's radical, but it could possibly make sense. But instead
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: of also weekend, I'd go to less twenty games of
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: the season. So I go twenty games and so then
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: it's almost like showing almost like a mini tournament now
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: but for the lesser teams, like a mini tournament of
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: how many wins we can get and then the odds,
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: So showing the way the odds are. The three worst
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: teams in the NBA after the lottery also chosen some
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: time in May. They haven't told shed what's the exact
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: day of the lottery. It's always on a Tuesday. I
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: know that, and positive that. So sometime in May, usually
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: middle of May, usually speaking during the second round of
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: the playoffs and so they'd have forty chance of getting
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: the first pick of the draft. So the three worst
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: teams would get to fourteen percent of the draft as
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: far as the odds. But in this situation that might happen,
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: but it's based on getting wins versus losses. So many
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: showing it's radical, but the NBA is trying to do
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: something that that the that the product is better the
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: whole season long, we'll see.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: The official stance of the Sean O'Connell Show is that
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: the way to fix it is to have an actual
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: tournament instead of like a pseudo race to the end,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: an actual tournament where the winner of said tournament gets
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: the number one pick, with the caveat being in order
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: to prevent roster manipulation to where you sit you a
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: lowry market in a triple J you sit hitting those
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: guys all season long, so you're in the lottery tournament,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: but then you make them available for the lot of returnament.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: The Sean O'Connell show proposal.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Is that the tournament happens, but your players are only
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: available for as much of the tournament as they were
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: of the regular season. So if a guy missed half
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: of the regular season and that's why you're in the
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: lottery tournament. That guy can only play half of the tournament.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: And the way that you do it is you use
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: minutes in games. So your first game of the tournament,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: if Lowry Marketing miss fifty percent of the time in
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: the regular season, he can play fifty percent of the
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: minutes in your first tournament game. And that way, it's
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: a reflection of the regular season, a direct mathematical reflection
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: of the regular season, but now with higher stakes, and
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: I think that would be from a viewership standpoint, I
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: truly believe that would be compelling. If you had the
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: best teams in the league competing for an NBA championship
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: and the worst teams in the league competing for the
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: number one overall pick, I would watch both of those.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: And add to that, you left out also the playing tournament.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: So now the NBA would have three things. Then the
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: regular season as far as the top six, then it's
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: number seven through ten for the playing tournament, with two
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: of those winners make the playoffs. And then the proposal
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: you're talking about, and so as many people in the NBA,
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: as far as having a mini loser bracket to try
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: to chase the first, second, third pick of the draft.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: But Seowan, I would still keep I would still keep
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: the fourteen percent oddsty I still would.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, you'd want to keep it still as though.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, in other words, so you're playing for the high odds,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: not for the for the top pick directly.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, that's what That's what I recommend if it happens.
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: Never Now, the border governors, meaning the NBA owners, have
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: to vote on this, and I'm sure they're all very
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: cognizant of it. Now, sure, I know we have a
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: get I know where. We have a game tonight at
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: the Adulta Center. And so ironically we're talking about odds
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: and lotteries, et cetera, et cetera. So the Jazz right
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: now the thirteenth seed in the West as far as
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: place at eighteen and forty and the Pelicans shown are
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: fourteen at seventeen and forty two. So ironic right now
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: number thirteen and fourteen are playing each other. And so
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: tonight's game be going to the Delta Center. Right now,
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: is that the Pelicans fired Willie Green during this thought
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: the season he was two and ten, and then James
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: Breger is an entim coach. Right now, the head coach
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: of the of the Pelicans. His record is fifteen and
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: thirty two. Now, when's the last time anybody's shown in
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: this building? Meaning you and James and Spence and everyone
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: else that's here, and the Gordon chers have mentioned this
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: person's name member Sean. His name is Zion Williamson. His
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: NBA is cruel Sean. Where suddenly you're you're you're popping
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: out your sneakers in college and everyone's talking about you.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: He's laughing, showings Hee Sean's laughing right now where he
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: popped out his sneakers. Literally, that's exactly right, and that
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: gave so much street cred to him as far as everything.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: So Zion Williamson again segue talking about missing games. So
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: he's missed so many games in his first six years
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: of his career.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: This year is sewn.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: He's missed sixteen games out of the team's fifty nine games.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: But here's the quick metrics about him. He's still absolutely
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: a force inside. He's averaging twenty one point nine points
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: per game, fifty eight point five filgal percentage, a very
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: wobbly twenty five percent from threes, and he's only averaging
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: six point rebounds a game. Six point zero. So with
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: that body and that vertical lift, right now, he's a
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: better rebounder.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: They picked in the lottery last year, both the Pelicans did.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: They came out with a guy named Jeremy Jeremiah Fears.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: All right, he was picked number seven in the draft. Ironically, Sean,
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: he's played on every game this year. So the young
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: fella nineteen years old that was picked number seven last
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: year has played on every single game all fifty nine.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: His quick numbers just just to a show of what
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: he's done, thirteen point one points per game, three point
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: to assist. But again, he's shooting a very ice cope
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: sentence from the field, which means that, well, you don't
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: shoot well as a young player. That means that that
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: besides your shot is the mechanics are incorrect, is that
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: the physicality of the defense makes you shoot off balance
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: way too much. And also your shot selection is at
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: best questionable. And that's right now, Jeremiah Fears. Right now,
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: he's shooting forty two point five from the field and
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: thirty one point four from three last guy I mentioned
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: about is Derek Queen. He was picked number thirteen in
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: the draft. All right, he's a talented, versatile big guy.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: That's uh, he's only missed one game. So Sewan, the
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Pelican young fellas once played every single game and the
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: other guys only missed one game. So that tells us
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: that these guys enjoy playing. They have youthful enthusiasm. And
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: with Derek Queen right now, he's averaging twelve point two
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: points per game, seven point three rebounds. And here's the
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  Speaker 5: thing about him. Sean as a big guy, leads the
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  Speaker 5: Pelicans and assist. So when's the last time a rookie
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  Speaker 5: led a team and assist And that's him right now.
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  Speaker 5: So the Jazz, believe it or not, should should have
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  Speaker 5: the knockout punch tonight. The Jazz at home should win
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  Speaker 5: this game tonight. And I don't care who's playing right now.
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  Speaker 5: The Jazz are the players on the court. They're going
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  Speaker 5: to try to compete hard and look for the Jazz
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  Speaker 5: to get a win tonight.
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  Speaker 1: And the Delta Center.
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  Speaker 3: We've talked a little bit about betting on the show today.
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  Speaker 4: New Orleans is a six and a half point favorite
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  Speaker 4: at the Delta Center tonight.
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  Speaker 5: All right, I'm glad I don't bet because I'm I'm
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  Speaker 5: I'm leaning towards the players, the Jazz players. If I'm
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  Speaker 5: a Jazz player right now, so let's let's go, I said, Callia,
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  Speaker 5: I am so tired of hearing about this thing for
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  Speaker 5: next season, you know, building for the future and his
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  Speaker 5: world right now, get me out there. I want to play.
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  Speaker 5: And if I'm Ace Bailey, I'm the same way. And
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  Speaker 5: if I'm Kyle Philipowski, I'm the same I'm out there
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  Speaker 5: trying to compete and bright sense of ball. Who's really
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  Speaker 5: has having an excellent, excellent season as far as off
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  Speaker 5: the bench. That guy can score. That guy can get
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  Speaker 5: twenty points in every game he plays. And he said
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  Speaker 5: he's a version of a Jordan Clarkson and Colin Sexon.
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  Speaker 5: And that's why I love his game right now. And
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying that Jazz should win. Shown, Gordy, what's your
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  Speaker 5: list today? I am a list today, shunt right on
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  Speaker 5: cue about injuries. So I I talked at the other day.
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  Speaker 5: I was thinking about Jason Tatum and Deshanta Murray who's
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  Speaker 5: playing tonight for the only second game of the season.
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  Speaker 5: He's missed the last thirteen months with him with his injury,
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  Speaker 5: which we're going to talk about one second here we
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  Speaker 5: go sean notable NBA players to suffer torn achilles. All right,
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  Speaker 5: notable NBA players to suffered suffered torn achilles. Why the
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  Speaker 5: injury usually speaking explosive movements stop and go first, and
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  Speaker 5: that creates what so much stress on your achilles? High
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  Speaker 5: intensity shifting where you change direction. Three so many games
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  Speaker 5: meaning game frequency. Four overall lower body fatigue. Your body
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  Speaker 5: is fatigue, and that means you're very susceptible to lower
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  Speaker 5: extremity injuries. And five sudden awkward falling in a game
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  Speaker 5: where you get it's a bang bang play and you
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  Speaker 5: feel you're doug after the ball and your compromise your
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  Speaker 5: body injuries. Remember, the body heals at different rates for
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  Speaker 5: every athlete. Usually full recovery and rehab for a person
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  Speaker 5: that suffers at torn achilles usually is eight months to
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  Speaker 5: a year. All right, So listen, only fifteen guys. Everyone
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  Speaker 5: knows these people are and you're gonna say, what I
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  Speaker 5: forgot about this guy.
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  Speaker 1: Having an injury? Here we go quickly.
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  Speaker 5: Nineteen ninety two, Dominique Wilkins had the achilles ripped achilles
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  Speaker 5: at age thirty two. Nineteen ninety seven, Lafonso Ellis at
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  Speaker 5: age twenty six ripped Achilles two thousand and seven. Elton
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  Speaker 5: brand at age twenty seven, twenty eleven, Remember this one,
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  Speaker 5: Sean Memoo corp. In the first game of the twenty
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  Speaker 5: ten first round plague versus Denver, he ripped his Achilles
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  Speaker 5: at age thirty one. Memoo core and he was a
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  Speaker 5: tremendous player. Twenty twelve. Chauncy Bills at age thirty five
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  Speaker 5: finishes Korea. Remember this guy, Sean twenty thirteen. Kobe Bryant
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  Speaker 5: ripped the Achilles at age thirty four, twenty fifteen. Former
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  Speaker 5: jazz men Leslie Matthews aged twenty nine, twenty seventeen, former
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  Speaker 5: jazz man Rudy Gay aged thirty one, twenty eighteen, DeMarcus
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  Speaker 5: Cousins aged twenty eight two thy nineteen heading to the
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  Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. Kevin Durant at age thirty one had
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  Speaker 5: a ripped Achilles. Twenty and twenty one. Clay Thompson at
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  Speaker 5: age thirty one ripped the Achilles. And in last year
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  Speaker 5: these four guys that we all know, and they affected
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  Speaker 5: their franchise. Jason Tatum ripped Achilles at age twenty seven.
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  Speaker 5: I mentioned a few seconds ago, Deshante Murray age twenty eight,
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  Speaker 5: ripped the Achilles. Weaber State's own Oakland proud Dame Lillard
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  Speaker 5: aged thirty four, and this guy affected his team be
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  Speaker 5: world champions to the ultimate game seven end of the
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  Speaker 5: first half Hares Halliburton h twenty five. So, rip the
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  Speaker 5: Achilles happens often to athletes in the game. And Sean,
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  Speaker 5: let's go NFL a one time. Remember when Dan Marino
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  Speaker 5: ripped his achilles back in nineteen ninety three and in
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  Speaker 5: nineteen ninety four, Sewan he won the NFL Comeback Player
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  Speaker 5: of the Year. So if you rip your achilles, it
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  Speaker 5: doesn't mean your your career is over. That means what
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  Speaker 5: you've got to work hard on your rehab and you've
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  Speaker 5: got to attack it like it's a full time job.
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  Speaker 5: And all these guys did, and that's why they're able
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  Speaker 5: to overcome these injuries and play still at a high level.
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  Speaker 4: Gordian, it's always a great pleasure to have you here
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  Speaker 4: in studio, even better than having you on the phone.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully I'll get a chance to see you at the
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  Speaker 3: game tonight.
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  Speaker 4: My plan is to get there probably about halftime after
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  Speaker 4: putting the kids to bed.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, enjoy, enjoy the game. Sewan. Thanks and peace out
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