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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, December 15 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullomsell, John O,
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Speaker 1: Brian Sex Sex Jangs Drive Time, and it starts right now.
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Speaker 1: Welcome then Jaguars Drive Time on a Wednesday, brought to
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Speaker 1: you by Jet Home Loans. The Jaguars back on a
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Speaker 1: practice field day, getting ready for a divisional opponent, the
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Speaker 1: Houston Texans come into town on Sunday, and this the game.
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Speaker 1: Brying about three weeks ago we said, all right, this
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Speaker 1: is a winnable game with everything going on this week,
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Speaker 1: I don't feel that way anymore. Well, I mean, if
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Speaker 1: you wanted to be slightly sarcastic, well, they've scored thirteen
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Speaker 1: points in the last two games, the Jaguars of Sport seven.
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Speaker 1: But you know, honestly, both teams have been shut out
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Speaker 1: in the last two weeks, the Jaguars by the Titans
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Speaker 1: and the the Texans by the Colts. So yes, it's
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Speaker 1: absolutely winnable game. How does that mean they're going to
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Speaker 1: win it? No, there's not enough consistency from this football
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Speaker 1: team to be able to say that about any team.
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Speaker 1: But it's probably it's probably it's the most winnable game
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Speaker 1: left on the schedule. Well, unfortunately we have reached the
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Speaker 1: point where it takes another bad team, which is always
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Speaker 1: a bad team doing they have a chance. The Texans
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Speaker 1: have been outscored by fifty one points the last two weeks.
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Speaker 1: Jag was the best scored by fifty, so you know
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Speaker 1: there there are relatively equal I'm not gonna sit there
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Speaker 1: and shade that like that's a good thing. Maybe they
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Speaker 1: win the game Sunday, maybe they don't. I at this point,
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Speaker 1: does winning on Sunday make you feel like they're good? No?
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Speaker 1: So yeah, go win, but I don't feel like it.
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Speaker 1: It Uh, what doesn't change? Hold on the narrative on
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Speaker 1: this team unless they win their last four doesn't change.
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Speaker 1: I would agree, But if they went on Sunday and
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Speaker 1: Trevor has a solid outing, that's different that I feel
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Speaker 1: good about him, which is which this whole season was
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Speaker 1: about him anyway. It was about getting him ready to
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Speaker 1: go it does. I think he has to sustain it
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Speaker 1: after I totally agree. But don't you think, especially after
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Speaker 1: this week, that it would be good for people to
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Speaker 1: go okay, I wouldn't be bad, certainly. I actually there's
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Speaker 1: a big difference between would be good and wouldn't be bad?
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Speaker 1: And I think it would be good. So we'll see
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Speaker 1: if they can do it all right. That leads us
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Speaker 1: right into big things. Big thing one is winning. What
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Speaker 1: would a win do for this team? With all the
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Speaker 1: drama of this week we've heard winning cures everything doesn't
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Speaker 1: cure this. In order to win, you have to have
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Speaker 1: a better offense, and that all starts with the play caller. No, no,
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Speaker 1: I I thought about, how did best support our play caller?
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Speaker 1: Um um the you know the support. My job is
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Speaker 1: support the coordinators on both sides of the ball. I've
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Speaker 1: never really done that. I'm not saying I don't believe
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Speaker 1: in it. I don't think if I thought that would
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Speaker 1: help us win a game, I would do it. Schottenheimer
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Speaker 1: and Brian Schottenheimer and and Barill Bevil work coming hand
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Speaker 1: and hand hand in hand, or the dialogue guys on
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Speaker 1: the headsets. So no, my job is support him and
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Speaker 1: by the way, to get some offensive product it against Houston.
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Speaker 1: Big thing too is progress. Is there enough time in
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Speaker 1: a season for this team to finish strong? Four weeks
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Speaker 1: left to winnable games like we talked about with the
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Speaker 1: Texans and the Jets. If you win those, do you
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Speaker 1: feel better about this year? That's the big question that
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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about. Big thing three is tracking
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Is it a wasteful season at this point
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Speaker 1: or is there still things to come from the rookie quarterback.
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Speaker 1: One touchdown in six weeks really hurts, and there's worry
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Speaker 1: if you're doing more harm than good at this point. Sure,
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Speaker 1: don't worry about about four years about oh James Mentellia.
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Speaker 1: We're about Marvin Jones mentality because that's reality, which you
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Speaker 1: just said, reality, reality of an happening, reality of the
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Speaker 1: code when you work so freaking hard is something and
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Speaker 1: it's not astute. So that's an absolute that half that's
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Speaker 1: what happens. And I have experienced that some of his
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Speaker 1: other stuff stories and I've never heard of that kind
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Speaker 1: of stuff in my life, but I have heard about
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Speaker 1: frustration because every coach, every athlete of double crust crazy.
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Speaker 1: The question was, is Trevor Lawrence frustrated right now? And
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Speaker 1: Coach Meyer was honest, yeah, and he should be with
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Speaker 1: everything going on right now. How could you not be frustrated.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting, Um, he's had so much success in his
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Speaker 1: football career. I wonder when was the last time he
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Speaker 1: was frustrated. Right, Let me get frustrated if your team
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Speaker 1: isn't playing well against Michigan, or if your team is
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Speaker 1: losing to Georgia or something like that. But this is
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Speaker 1: a whole new level of frustration. He lost nine games
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Speaker 1: in seven years at Ohio State. He's lost eleven games
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Speaker 1: in his first year in the NFL. So when he
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Speaker 1: talks about athletes getting frustrated, I wonder how much he's
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Speaker 1: had to endure. Uh, in the programs that he's been
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Speaker 1: a part of, Utah, Florida and Ohio State, which have
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Speaker 1: done nothing but wins since the mid nineties. Well, I
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Speaker 1: DoD he's experienced anything like this because you can look
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Speaker 1: at his record and say that he hasn't. And in
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Speaker 1: in college with the programs where he was, you could
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Speaker 1: will your way through that. That's not possible in the
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Speaker 1: NFL with this roster. So it's a complete different dynamic
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Speaker 1: he has to face. You know, as far as the
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Speaker 1: big things, it would be great to win these two games. Uh, Realistically,
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Speaker 1: if they win these two and go ahead and get
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Speaker 1: shell the last two, then you're better than some bad
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Speaker 1: teams in the NFL, which is not what they wanted
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Speaker 1: to be at this point, I don't worry about Trevor's
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Speaker 1: mentality long term. I think at this point it's probably
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Speaker 1: realistic to say, whatever happens, I believe in his talent.
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Speaker 1: I believe this will not break him. But there's nothing
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Speaker 1: about the last ten weeks, even with improved play, where
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Speaker 1: I think you will be able to look at this
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Speaker 1: and say, Wow, he progressed. I think it'll be a
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Speaker 1: it's gonna feel like starting over in the off season.
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Speaker 1: At this point, however, the only way that you do
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Speaker 1: him any harm is if he gets hurt right right,
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Speaker 1: I mean the things that he is learning intellectually, when
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Speaker 1: he goes back and watches the tape and figures things
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Speaker 1: out and knows now what to look for, how a
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Speaker 1: defense is attacking, you know, whatever they're doing conceptually on offense.
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Speaker 1: That's all have been a bit. As long as he
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Speaker 1: stays healthy into the off season and doesn't have to
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Speaker 1: spend time recovering from a surgery or recovering from an
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Speaker 1: injury that costs in time you know, preparing and O
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Speaker 1: t a s in minicamp. You can't hurt him at all.
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Speaker 1: UM winning and I've got thought on this, on on
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Speaker 1: this or that, UM I'm not as concerned about the
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Speaker 1: outcome as I am about, you know, evaluating some players.
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Speaker 1: I need to know who I You know, can I
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Speaker 1: see anything from Caleb and Chase under Is he just
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Speaker 1: a bust? Right? Um? Can the running game? You know? What?
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Speaker 1: Have I got on the offensive line that I can
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Speaker 1: that I can go forward with? Can I learn something?
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Speaker 1: Do I keep Cam Robinson? Am I gonna move Jawan
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Speaker 1: Taylor to guard? Oh? The last four weeks or about that? Right?
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Speaker 1: Not necessarilyout winning, However, the last years have been about
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Speaker 1: you know, draft position. Screw that. If I can win,
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Speaker 1: I wanna win. Uh. I said about Trevor, I believe
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Speaker 1: it absolutely hard that he is going to be great.
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Speaker 1: I don't think these last ten weeks have broken him.
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Speaker 1: I look at the last of games before the bye,
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Speaker 1: and I know the kid can play. I just feel
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Speaker 1: like right now, with the way the offense is, I
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Speaker 1: don't see anything right now that's going to make me
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Speaker 1: feel better about him. But I know from those three
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Speaker 1: games that he can play. I just think it's been
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Speaker 1: broken for the last ten weeks. I talked to a
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Speaker 1: guy yesterday, buddy of mine who's been he's retired, but
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Speaker 1: he was in personnel for twenty five years in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: and he's watched Trevor and he has no doubt that
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Speaker 1: he's the same kid that he put number one as
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Speaker 1: he did his own private evaluations last spring. Number one
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Speaker 1: thinks the kid is going to be a star. Thinks
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Speaker 1: he's got nothing to work with, nothing, And he said
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Speaker 1: that with emphasises nothing right. He doesn't think of anything
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Speaker 1: of the receivers that they've got here, or the tight
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Speaker 1: ends or the running backs. He says, it's just that kid. Okay,
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Speaker 1: well that's one person's opinion. But I value it from
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Speaker 1: the quarterback perspective because I like you, John. I saw
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Speaker 1: things this year that told me he's got it. And
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Speaker 1: when it was functioning, he was improving. He improved the
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Speaker 1: last weeks for the bye. Then Jay Rob got hurt.
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Speaker 1: It's been broken ever since. I mean that sort of
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Speaker 1: the nutgraph of the season to me. Yeah, and then
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Speaker 1: we talked about it basically ever since after the buys.
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Speaker 1: You can't really judge him right now, so that's when
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Speaker 1: you hear all these negative comments. How are you judging
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Speaker 1: his play right now? With what he has to work
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Speaker 1: with him? We see those flash throws like the first
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Speaker 1: download to the quand Tribe. Well last week and go
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Speaker 1: all right, he still got it. Within the context of
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Speaker 1: the season. He has not played well the last teams.
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Speaker 1: He did not play well the other day. But I
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Speaker 1: just feel like there's so much going on he's trying
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Speaker 1: to make up for the other day. Looked like a
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Speaker 1: desperate kid trying to make something happen the second And
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Speaker 1: I get that right. If you played in yards up
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Speaker 1: and down the field, Absolutely, there's nowhere to go. And
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Speaker 1: this is sort of a one off. He's a competitor.
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Speaker 1: He wants to win, and so the frustration that comes,
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Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna make crazy throws here and there,
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Speaker 1: trying to make a play. Yeah, I can't blame him.
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Speaker 1: I discounted all at this point because he's got nothing
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Speaker 1: to work with. Absolutely, and that is big things when
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Speaker 1: it's time for summer? This or that? On a Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: comparing and contrasting, Brian, what are you up for us? Um,
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Speaker 1: I'll go with would you rather win the next four
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Speaker 1: games or have the number two overall draft picks? We're
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Speaker 1: there about that time. No. I mean sadly it's been
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Speaker 1: that time for a couple of weeks, Um, But I
9:55
Speaker 1: have always been a guy that is, when you're out
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Speaker 1: of it, don't worry about a win or two here
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Speaker 1: in this member right, put yourself in a position to
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Speaker 1: grab a player. Um, I'd rather have the four wins.
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Speaker 1: It's not likely, but I would rather have this team
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Speaker 1: because I've been selling the idea that finishing strong has
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Speaker 1: been the goal for this team all season long. Finished strong, finishedrong,
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Speaker 1: get better as the season goes along, And I'm not
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Speaker 1: sure there's enough time. As you mentioned, John, if you
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Speaker 1: won all four games and you beat the Patriots in Boston,
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Speaker 1: and you beat the Colts here on the final Sunday
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Speaker 1: of the season, I'm not sure you could still say
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Speaker 1: that we finished strong, but the perception would be that
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Speaker 1: you finished strong, people would have something they could hang
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Speaker 1: their hat on. So I'd rather have the four games
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Speaker 1: and the wins and the eighth overall pick than the
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Speaker 1: four losses and the number two overall pick. Yeah. And
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Speaker 1: and truthly, we haven't been confirmed this, but it seems
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Speaker 1: like that would decide the fate of this coaching staff,
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Speaker 1: at least a couple of them. These four wins. If
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Speaker 1: it's four wins, if it's four losses. You don't know
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Speaker 1: the number, but that certainly will be a huge determining factor.
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna win all four games, but I'd rather
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Speaker 1: have wins. Yeah, Yeah, they need to look good. I
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Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen with the coaching staff at
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Speaker 1: this point. There's gonna be some change because we've already
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Speaker 1: heard reports of some guys leaving. I have no idea
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Speaker 1: the depth or the dynamic of that. I'm gonna change
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Speaker 1: my this or that because mine was basically the same
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Speaker 1: thing as Brian's. UM So I'm gonna go with, uh,
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Speaker 1: who's the biggest surprise story on this team? And I
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Speaker 1: would say it's for me. It's down to Smoot or
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Speaker 1: Rudy Ford, and I kind of didn't go this way
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Speaker 1: big picture because it's sort of a technical uh question.
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Speaker 1: But you know I I think both of those guys
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Speaker 1: deserves such credit for where they've come from. I didn't
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Speaker 1: believe in to want Smoot before this season. I liked
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Speaker 1: him as a person, I enjoyed interviewing him, but when
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Speaker 1: they resigned him, I thought, what are they doing? Well,
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Speaker 1: what a season he's having on, what a core piece
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Speaker 1: he's becoming. And sort of the same thing with Rudy Ford.
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Speaker 1: I'll go with Rudy Ford on this uh because he
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Speaker 1: was out of nowhere. But it's not all lost. Not
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Speaker 1: everybody on this team is stunk. I think those two
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Speaker 1: guys stand out well. And I'll give you one, dan Arnold.
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Speaker 1: Right the trade for him, the offense found a different
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Speaker 1: degree of functionality when Dan Arnold showed up and helped
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Speaker 1: give the quarterback a reliable target he could move the
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Speaker 1: chains on. Um. He wasn't a surprise in terms of
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Speaker 1: his athleticism because we had seen that. I watched him
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Speaker 1: last year for Arizona in some key games down the stretch. However, Um,
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Speaker 1: I think he was the guy who when he got
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Speaker 1: hurt really submarine. Not having that guy. I thought, if
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Speaker 1: you had him and James O'Shaughnessy on the field at
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Speaker 1: the same time, I think you'd have the ability to
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Speaker 1: do some different things schematically. So I'll say dan Ardland
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Speaker 1: was the surprise. Yeah, that's been cumulative, but his effect
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Speaker 1: was one more punch to the gut for the offense
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Speaker 1: that not having him. Absolutely. And I think I was
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Speaker 1: talking to Tony Baselli about this a couple of days
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Speaker 1: ago and he said, you think Snoop's the best defensive lineman.
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Speaker 1: I said, yeah, right now. He said he overcame Josh Allen,
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Speaker 1: and that's because Josh Allen is getting so much attention.
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Speaker 1: But it's freeing up Moots to to be that guy
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Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks where you can say confidently, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's playing like the best defensive lineman. Yeah, put him
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Speaker 1: in the same categories that I don't think Smoots having
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Speaker 1: the year he's having without the emphasis on jobs. So
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Speaker 1: I think they go hand in hand. Great, I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying is that a negative for your guy. That's what
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Speaker 1: you have to have upfront. I think those two guys
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Speaker 1: on defense to me, along with two linebackers Damian Wilson
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Speaker 1: and and Miles Jack. Uh. There's some guys playing well
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Speaker 1: on defense. You don't play as well as they did
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Speaker 1: on Sunday without that being Roberts and Harris, you know,
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Speaker 1: but we all mentioned him at the end of the
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Speaker 1: game that he was the best player on the field
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Speaker 1: for the jackboards on Sunday. He's a nice piece that
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Speaker 1: you can work with two bigger all is lost. There
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Speaker 1: are pieces you can build around, including Walker Little and
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Speaker 1: Andre Cisco. Which of these two guys do you want
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Speaker 1: to see more of these final four games. I have
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Speaker 1: to go with Walker Little on this because I think
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Speaker 1: there's still some this or that about if you're gonna
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Speaker 1: pay Cam Robinson and if you are gonna pay Cam Robinson,
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna let Cam Robinson go. You need to
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Speaker 1: have confidence in the way Walker Little can play on
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Speaker 1: game days. So I'm gonna pay attention to that. But
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Speaker 1: Andre Cisco is another guy. Do you want to see
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Speaker 1: more from him? I want to see more Cisco. Uh.
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Speaker 1: This team has six takeaways six in the last five games.
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Speaker 1: They have one right and eleven turnovers. Cisco is a
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Speaker 1: guy who had thirteen takeaways in his time at Syracuse.
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Speaker 1: They brought him in and they touted the fact that
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Speaker 1: this was a guy who had a nose for the ball.
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Speaker 1: So from my perspective, I'd like to see that the
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Speaker 1: final four games. Um, they need three takeaways in the
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Speaker 1: final four games to avoid the dubious record of fewest
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Speaker 1: takeaways by a team in a single season in NFL history.
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Speaker 1: Give me Cisco and let's see if he can take
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Speaker 1: it away. I know you might not favor that, John
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Speaker 1: because of your guy Doey, but I want to I
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Speaker 1: want to see more of Cisco, you know. I think
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Speaker 1: we need to see more of both of them. Are
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Speaker 1: the last last four games. I haven't had a problem
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Speaker 1: with it so far because it's in the course of
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Speaker 1: the season, with a month left, you put those guys in,
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Speaker 1: you can get a feel for what they are. Um,
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Speaker 1: So I think both of them about the same. I'll
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Speaker 1: go with Little in this sense because it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: fascinating to me. And you've alluded to this, Brian. Uh,
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Speaker 1: if you want to see Walker Little putting him in,
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Speaker 1: then what does he mean? There's multiple directions you can go. Uh,
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Speaker 1: do you put him in at a right tackle? Do
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Speaker 1: you put him in at left and move Cam to right.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that would be the movie because you
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Speaker 1: don't not protect Trevor. But then, what does it all
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Speaker 1: means putting him in there? I mean you're moving a
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Speaker 1: guy off the team. Just putting him in there mean
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Speaker 1: you're moving a guy over, meaning Juwan. So there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of dynamics there. Uh. The other side of this
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Speaker 1: is there's plenty of guys like Cisco and Little who
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Speaker 1: don't play very much at all his rookies because they're
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Speaker 1: playing for contending teams who come in their second year.
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Speaker 1: If you can play, you can play. This is more
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Speaker 1: really an appeasing of fans than it is anything else,
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Speaker 1: because these guys can come in and play. It'd be
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Speaker 1: great to get experienced, but if they're good players, they'll
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Speaker 1: be fine next year without playing. But I get that
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Speaker 1: fans want to see. I get the little thing because
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Speaker 1: I'd like to see him at right tackle. Juwan Taylor
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Speaker 1: looks like he can be a road greater. I think
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Speaker 1: he's a good player. I just don't think he's a tackle.
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Speaker 1: So I'd like to see Little over there and and
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Speaker 1: move Juwan inside and move BArch over to the left side.
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Speaker 1: Because normal is not coming back next year, right, Um,
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna change things, and they're not because they
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Speaker 1: gotta protect the quarterback. But in an ideal world, I'd
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Speaker 1: love to see that. Yeah, And that helps you with
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Speaker 1: the decision of Cam Robinson. If Walker Little has to
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Speaker 1: be right tackle decision made about Cam then potentially or
16:35
Speaker 1: if you're picking in the top five and the big
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Speaker 1: kid from Alabama, Evan Neil is there, right, they've got
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Speaker 1: there are choices for them to be able to make.
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Speaker 1: But if you keep Cam, then maybe you can take
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Speaker 1: one of the past rushers if he's there. You see
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Speaker 1: what I mean. There's world of things. Yeah, and and
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Speaker 1: and everything we say here they might vehemently disagree with
16:52
Speaker 1: in the offensive meeting room, thinking are you crazy? Jowan
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Speaker 1: Taylor doesn't have the feed to play guard whatever. This
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Speaker 1: back jog Boars Drive time. It is Wednesday morning. We're
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Speaker 1: looking ahead to Sunday's game against the Houston Texans. And
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Speaker 1: Drew Doherty from Houston Texans dot com and Texans TV
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Speaker 1: joins us. Now, Drew, good morning, it's been we are
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Speaker 1: doing We're doing. Okay, we're hanging in there. Four weeks
19:33
Speaker 1: left to go. But I know you were dealing with
19:35
Speaker 1: a similar situation there in Houston, So tell us what's
19:38
Speaker 1: going on with the quarterback situation. I understand we're going
19:41
Speaker 1: to see a rookie quarterback this week. Yeah, David S.
19:44
Speaker 1: Mills is he's starting the rest of the way. Uh,
19:48
Speaker 1: head coach David Culley made that announcement not a week
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Speaker 1: ago this time. Um, you know, both of these guys
19:54
Speaker 1: have struggled. But Davids Mills is a rookie. They used
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Speaker 1: their highest pick in last year's draft on he was
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Speaker 1: a third rounder. Uh, he's done some nice things. But
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Speaker 1: this offense, it just does not do anything after the second,
20:08
Speaker 1: you know, after the after the intermission. So each of
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Speaker 1: the last four losses they've not scored after after the half.
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Speaker 1: And they've got to fix that. They've got to figure
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Speaker 1: out one of many things they gotta figure out. But
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Speaker 1: scored after the half. They've been ineffective running the football,
20:24
Speaker 1: and uh, they've turned the ball over too much. Then
20:27
Speaker 1: they get a lot of takeaways. But you know, they've
20:29
Speaker 1: just turned the ball over too much and too many penalties,
20:31
Speaker 1: and you know, they're just doing stuff that bad football
20:34
Speaker 1: teams do. Hey, Drew, good to see you this morning. Um,
20:37
Speaker 1: I'll tell you it doesn't bear much talking because this
20:41
Speaker 1: team turned to the ball over too much, they don't
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Speaker 1: score enough. Uh, they're not a very good football team.
20:46
Speaker 1: So give me a sense, give our give our viewers
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Speaker 1: a sense. Do you think that the Texans are going
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Speaker 1: to be able to get that whole for Deshaun Watson,
20:54
Speaker 1: as crazy as it sounds to be trading such a
20:56
Speaker 1: great football player, is the sense in that building or
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Speaker 1: the attention you get that they're gonna come away with
21:02
Speaker 1: a massive haul for him or is that going to
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Speaker 1: be a question mark because of the outside legal issues
21:07
Speaker 1: all the way to the deadline. You know, I think
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Speaker 1: back when uh Niki Serios spoke with the media right
21:14
Speaker 1: after the trade deadline, he he acknowledged, you know, the
21:18
Speaker 1: Texans are are looking to move on, and there's not
21:22
Speaker 1: really much that I can say about it, just because
21:25
Speaker 1: of that legal situation and because he's still a member
21:28
Speaker 1: of this fifty three man roster. I mean, the Texans
21:30
Speaker 1: are essentially playing with a fifty two man roster this
21:33
Speaker 1: season because every game day he is inactive. Now he's
21:36
Speaker 1: in the building and he works out, but you don't
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Speaker 1: see him at practice and he's not around on game days.
21:42
Speaker 1: So it's just such an odd situation. But yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: the Texans are are going to deal him, and uh,
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Speaker 1: we just don't know when, because you know, the legal
21:53
Speaker 1: issues are are are something that that take precedence over
21:56
Speaker 1: anything else that that happens here. So yeah, they expect
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Speaker 1: to deal them and and we will see what where
22:02
Speaker 1: that goes. But there's just so many As somebody that
22:05
Speaker 1: works for the team, it's there's so many things that
22:08
Speaker 1: are going on that you know, I I don't know,
22:11
Speaker 1: you know, I just can't. I can't give you a
22:12
Speaker 1: great answer, and I apologize for that, but that's just
22:14
Speaker 1: how that's where we are right now, and it's it's
22:16
Speaker 1: it's frustrating for everybody involved. You. I know it's a
22:19
Speaker 1: tough question with both teams too and eleven, but when
22:22
Speaker 1: the Texans have played well, what have they been what
22:26
Speaker 1: have they been able to do in those moments where
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Speaker 1: they have competed? They have to be with the only
22:32
Speaker 1: times they've won, they were plus three in turnover to freential.
22:37
Speaker 1: Now that's asking a hell of a lot of a team.
22:39
Speaker 1: So they won in Week one against the Jaguars, they
22:42
Speaker 1: got three takeaways, they didn't turn the ball over. They
22:45
Speaker 1: won against the Titans in Tennessee by getting five takeaways
22:50
Speaker 1: and not turning the ball over. Now is that sustainable?
22:53
Speaker 1: Clearly it's not. Because they've lost eleven times, but they're
22:57
Speaker 1: two and two when they win the turnover battle, which
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Speaker 1: is not good. I mean usually when you win the
23:03
Speaker 1: turnover battle, you've got like a what chance of winning games?
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Speaker 1: And if they're even or below water, no chance. They're
23:11
Speaker 1: oh and nine when it comes to that. So they've
23:14
Speaker 1: got to figure out a way to get a lot
23:16
Speaker 1: of takeaways, not turn the ball over, and then they
23:19
Speaker 1: can win. What they did well against Jacksonville, they they
23:23
Speaker 1: didn't run the ball effectively, but they were able to
23:26
Speaker 1: get that lead and they were able to run it
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Speaker 1: a lot. You know, they only got about three and
23:29
Speaker 1: a half yards and carry in that Week one victory,
23:32
Speaker 1: but they were able to run it about thirty eight
23:33
Speaker 1: forty times. So if you're doing that, you're sitting on
23:36
Speaker 1: a lead and you're you're doing okay. But that's the
23:39
Speaker 1: big thing that stood out to me this year. They
23:41
Speaker 1: the only two times they won, they were plus three.
23:44
Speaker 1: And that's that's asking a heck of a lot of
23:47
Speaker 1: of your of your team. You know this, the offense
23:51
Speaker 1: is turned the ball over a whole lot this year,
23:53
Speaker 1: but the defense is still not. In those takeaways. Love
23:57
Speaker 1: Smith's crew um is like ninth in the NFL in
24:01
Speaker 1: takeaways this year after last year they only had nine
24:04
Speaker 1: takeaways total, and you guys are kind of in that
24:06
Speaker 1: boat right now. You've got six. It's tough to do anything.
24:11
Speaker 1: It's tough to you know, ask a lot of your
24:13
Speaker 1: defense when they're not getting off the field and they're
24:15
Speaker 1: not you know, getting the ball back. So while last
24:18
Speaker 1: year they didn't get takeaways, the offense didn't turn it over.
24:21
Speaker 1: Last last year they were really really clean actually, but
24:24
Speaker 1: it's kind of flipped this year and they're turning the
24:26
Speaker 1: ball over too much. Their plus one on the year,
24:29
Speaker 1: but they've had they had a spurt there against Tennessee
24:32
Speaker 1: and the week before that they played Miami. They tend
24:34
Speaker 1: takeaways total. Now against Miami they turned it over four times.
24:38
Speaker 1: So you know, that's one of those thing you you had,
24:41
Speaker 1: you had five takeaways in the game and you still lost.
24:43
Speaker 1: Like That's that's what we're dealing with. That's that's what's
24:45
Speaker 1: happened this year. Yes, I don't know how electrifying Sunday's
24:48
Speaker 1: game will be against two, two and eleven teams. What
24:51
Speaker 1: we are going to do our best and Drew will
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Speaker 1: see you here in Jacksonville. Thanks so much for joining us.
24:56
Speaker 1: All right, thanks for having me. It's always good to
24:58
Speaker 1: see you guys and the best of luck the rest
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