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RAIDERS hire Klint Kubiak, CARDINALS hire Mike LaFleur! · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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The last two head coaching openings in the NFL have been
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filled as the Arizona Cardinals and the number one offense in
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the NFLLA Rams and former Jets offensive coordinator Mike
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Lafleur. Lance's first head coaching gig
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while in the desert. The Davis family and Tom Brady
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have apparently reached an agreement with the offensive
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coordinator of the NFC Champion Seattle Seahawks, Clint Kubiak.
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Will these hires turn these franchises around, or are they
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just the last picks of the coaching cycle with little
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chance of real success? The Minnesota Vikings
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surprisingly fired their general manager of the past Four
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Seasons, Quesi Adofo Mensa, after the Vikings struggled
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offensively after letting Super Bowl quarterback Sam Darnold go
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for the underwhelming JJ McCarthy.
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After the firing, the stories of dysfunction in the building came
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out, mostly pointing the finger at the bygone GM.
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Will the Vikings find the right guy to pair with former Coach of
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the Year Kevin O'Connell? Or will it be another analytical
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guy like Adolfo Mensa who knows all the numbers but can't add
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Difficult. You're going to have a ton of
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money to spend. Why not pulling in one of the
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So if anybody checked out the Grammys last night, because if
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you did, it was selfish and disrespectful.
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Because to me, I'm a music guy. I'm a DJ on the other side of
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what I do when it comes to radio and broadcasting and sports.
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I do music. And the Grammys is supposed to
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be for music, not political thoughts or personality.
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You know, traits brought out in a way where it would piss people
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off. And pretty much every single
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person, every single artist that went up and won an award, they
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were speaking about our country, speaking about politics.
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Republican, Democratic, I could care less what your political
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views are. We're there.
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And as a fan of music and, and the biggest time for the music
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industry is to watch the Grammys.
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All I want to do is listen to the awards and listen to the
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music. I don't want to hear your
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political views. So shame on the Grammy committee
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for allowing these people, including Noah.
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He was the personality. He was the host of the Grammys.
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He's been the host of the Grammys for the last five years.
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It was horrible that the Grammys allowed these guys or these
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ladies to go up there and and give your political views.
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I say this about athletes all the time too.
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Over the years you had LeBron James open his mouth during on
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and off the courts talking about his political views.
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Kyrie Irving with his anti-Semitic views, and we've
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heard Kawhi Leonard, we've heard Kevin Durant over the years, a
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lot of these different guys. And one of them that has been
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attacked many, many times in Speedy, You know what I'm
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talking about. He was a football player that
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was kneeling Kaepernick, Colin Kaepernick, who got attacked by
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his political views. And I'm not saying Colin
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Kaepernick was right. Anybody that goes down on his
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knees to the national anthem is disrespectful.
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But even though a lot of people believe that, he wasn't trying
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to disrespect the flag. When you go on your hands and
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knees and you're pretty much not respecting our national anthem,
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you're supposed to stand, take your hat off and salute our
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country. You live in our country, you
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support our country. That's the whole point.
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I don't want to hear about political views.
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You do Never. You guys never hear me on this
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show ever quote my political views because I don't want to
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piss anybody off. It's a sports radio show.
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I don't want to hear it. So what I watched on the Grammys
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last night was absolute nonsense.
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I don't want to hear it. I don't care what they think
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about our president. I don't care what they think
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about our country right now. All I think and all I care about
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is you want to talk about God, talk about God.
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And by the way, congratulations to all the artists that won
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Jelly Roll is Jelly Roll is one of my favorites.
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Very well deserved. I, I love the guy.
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I love his music. I love the back end of his story
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that he was once in jail and, and to get out and, and, and to
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accomplish all the things that he has done over the last couple
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of years is, is pretty incredible.
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So congratulations to Jelly Roll.
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And even his speech after, after the fact, he, he was speaking
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about God, he, he didn't even want to talk about anybody's
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politic or politician thoughts or even political views.
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So it just gives me an understanding of who and what
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these personalities, these different people out there are
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willing to go out of their way to attack or destruct what our
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country really is. And that's all I'm going to say.
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I I just wanted to make that be known on this show that I just
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didn't like how the Grammy committee allowed this.
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And honestly, if you can't go into an award show and enjoy it
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strictly just because of the music, and you're going to go
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off set and talk about something had nothing to do with the the
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organization of the Grammys or the award show, then it
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shouldn't be spoken about. I don't want to hear it.
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And I was really, really upset after the fact.
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So I just wanted to make that mark and clear, clear
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everything, clear my thoughts on all of that.
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This is a platform that I respect and I want all the fans
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to understand that. I want, I want every single fan
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to understand how I feel about the way our country is being
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pushed around and people in our country are throwing people
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under the bus when I honestly don't want to hear it.
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I don't watch political, you know, thoughts and, and, and
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watch political shows because I have no answer.
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There you are. There's Nathan.
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And is that your door? Whose birthday is it?
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I don't know. Oh, man, Nathan is a one.
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That ugly, ugly jacket. By the way, the ugly blue
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jacket. ESPN Adam Schefter reported over
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the weekend that the Las Vegas Raiders are expected to hire
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Seattle Seahawks offensive coordinator Clinton Kubiak as
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their next head coach. The move is unlikely to be made
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official until after the Super Bowl this Sunday.
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Under Kubiak, the Seattle Seahawks offense was excellent
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this season and was ranked second overall by Pro Football
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Focus. They finished in the top ten of
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most offensive metrics. Clint Kubiak is the son of
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former Super Bowl champion coach Gary Kubiak and has been a
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coordinator from 2019 to 2021 for the Vikings, Broncos, 49ers,
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Saints, and this year with the Seattle Seahawks.
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The Raiders interviewed 15 different head coaches this
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cycle and reports say that Tom Brady was very involved in the
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decision making. Well now to hire Kubiak.
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Schefner also reported that the Arizona Cardinals have hired
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Rams offensive coordinator Mike Lafleur as their next head
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coach. Reports say that the Cardinals
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were set to have another interview with Clinton Kubiak on
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Saturday, but pivoted to Lafleur after learning Kubiak was likely
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to take the Raiders job. The Rams had the top offense in
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the league last year under Lafleur in most major
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categories, including total yards, passing yards, first
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downs and points per game. Let's get into Clint Kubiak
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first. And I think Clint Kubiak has
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been one of the best young offensive coordinators in the
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NFL. Getting a chance to work with
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Sam Donald this year and developing a help develop Sam
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Donald and then bringing this offense together.
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Najigba had his best season as a starting wide receiver, as as we
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saw this year, he was the second best wide receiver, I think
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right behind the nasty man himself over there with the
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Rams. It seems like now that the
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season is over, you have Puka Nakua reaching out to every
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single woman. I mean, he's been on every
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single tweet, reaching out to movie stars, actresses,
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musicians, I mean, every single hot country singer.
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I see Puka Nukua liking everything.
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So Puka's out on the prowl. But one of the best young wide
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receivers in the league as well. But Clint Kubiak has been
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sensational all season long. And a lot of people believed he
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was going to get an opportunity to interview for some of these
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jobs. But there were a lot of good
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coaches available this offseason, even Mike Tomlin, who
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didn't land a job yet. And I think Mike Tomlin will sit
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out this year, get a chance to be a broadcaster and analyst for
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a year. He's going to make about 5 to
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between 5:00 and $10 million with Fox, and then he could
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decide if he wants to take a job next year.
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The Buffalo Bills, they just started to part ways with him.
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There was a chance to bring in one of these guys, but they
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decided with the thought of seeing the situation for what it
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was. You look at the position that
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Clint Kubiak brings to the table.
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One an experienced guy under his father, Gary Kubiak is one of
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the best offensive minds in the NFL and has been over the years.
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Won a Super Bowl with the Broncos, has been a part of many
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championship competitive teams. And Gary has two sons that are
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going to be coaches in the NFL one way or another.
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Clint Kubiak is the first, and I think Clint Kubiak is an
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interesting personality. 1 He doesn't speak much.
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How many times have you heard Clint Kubiak speak to the press,
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speak to the media? You don't really see it a lot
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and Gary Kubiak wasn't one to speak to the media either.
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He wasn't a guy that was outlandishly crazy when he was
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speaking to the media. He also stepped back and not
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throw any of his his team or his players under the bus.
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One of the reasons why Peyton Manning decided to go and play
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for the Broncos was Gary Kubiak. Gary Kubiak was a guy that was a
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structural type of offensive mind, and if you look at guys
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like Sean Payton or Andy Reid, Gary Kubiak is that kind of
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offensive coordinator. One thing that Gary Kubiak was
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most known for is his running game.
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His running games were elite. Every time he coached, even with
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the Broncos, he always had a good running game and I think
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that's something that Clint Kubiak had this year with Walker
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Charbonnay. These two guys were in elite
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tandem. Now Vegas, we've interviewed one
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of them, Chris Collier. He's a third string running back
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and we'll see if he has a lot of he gets a chance to play this
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year with the Raiders if he makes the team and I, I think he
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will. And I love Chris Collier, so I
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wish him nothing but the best. But you have a guy like Gente,
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prolific offensive target and a guy that you can use in many
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different ways in his style of offense that a guy like Kubiak
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is going to use. And I don't know if most will
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come back. He was a veteran guy that helped
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in the locker room and helped him in this running backroom.
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I think when you look at the position that the Vegas Raiders
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are in, they got the number one pick they needed to bring an
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offensive mind in. Mendoza is going to be #1 you
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heard it from Chris, Chris Collier last week.
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He didn't want to say it. He's not the GM, he's not the
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coach, so he's not going to say it.
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But everybody over there in Raiderville knows where they're
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going. They're going with Fernando
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Mendoza. He will be the number one pick
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in this year's coming draft and you have to bring in an
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offensive minded coach, a young offensive mind that can develop
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a guy like Mendoza. Everywhere Mendoza went, it took
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time for him to develop. Even in college he went to Cal
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and he jumped ship from one team to another before he he got a
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chance to go to Indiana and and actually be coached by a genius
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of an offensive mind and defensive mind and a coach of
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the year as he always has been over the last two seasons in a
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row. You need a competent guy that is
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going to be able to coach a young quarterback and Clint
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Kubiak proved that this year. Sam Donald had a great year last
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year in Minnesota but fell short in the playoffs, didn't play
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well in the playoffs, and even this year there was ups and
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downs against the Rams. But when the game was important
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and Sam needed to make plays, Clint Kobiak put him in the best
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position to succeed. And I think that the one thing
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the Raiders have had problems with over the years is putting
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the right coach in the right position with the right players
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to succeed. When they brought in Josh
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McDaniels, Josh McDaniels was a great offensive mind, a guy that
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helped the Patriots win multiple Super Bowls.
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He was the backbone of Bill Belichick's offense.
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When he went over there to the Raiders, he had a chance to take
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the Indianapolis Colts job. He turned that down to go back
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to the Patriots to eventually take Las Vegas's position
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because he had more Paul, more opportunity to succeed after
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John Krooner got fired. And I think that Josh Mcdaniel's
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time over there with the Raiders was short because of the
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opportunities that he had to bring in the players that he
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wanted to fit roles that didn't work over there in Vegas.
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Vegas is still a new stadium, a new place for football.
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And I think bringing in a young, competent, unique individual
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like Clint Kubiak, a guy that is very well respected around the
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league, John Gruden said. Clint Kubiak is one of the best
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young offensive minds in the NFL right now.
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We've heard Sean Payne come out and speak very highly of Clint
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Kubiak. Sean McVeigh was another one
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that I I was reading today that said a lot of high praise to
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Clint Kubiak. Clint Kubiak's been around for a
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long, long time. Around his father, around his
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brother. 2 guys that have slow, slowly but surely became names.
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Gary Kubiak is not coaching anymore.
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As a matter of fact, I think he was.
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If it wasn't this year, was he a part of the Seattle Seattle
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Seahawks? He was a consultant I think,
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with the Broncos for something. I don't think it was this year,
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I think it was last year. But Gary Pay, Gary Kubiak, heart
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issues, health issues, and he decided to step away after, you
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know, a couple years after he won the Super Bowl with the
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Broncos. He had health issues in Houston,
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too. That's why I had to leave there
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before he went to the Broncos, Yeah.
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Clint Kubiak is a different personality and an understanding
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personality that I think bringing him here to a Raiders
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organization that has a lot of interesting personalities behind
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the scene like Davis. And even over the years, the
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different GM's that they've had, the different players that they
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brought in that haven't worked. I'm interested to see if Crosby
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is going to ask for a trade sometime this offseason after
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what they did to get that number one pick and they have no wide
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receivers. And that that's why I think
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Clint Kubiak is going. First of all, the Raiders are
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one of the top three teams when it comes to salaries.
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I think they're #2 in the league with open opportunities to land
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free agents and, and now with Clint Kubiak over there and some
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of the players that have played for him or know him are going to
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want to come over here to play for Clint Kubiak.
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One, he's going to give them an opportunity to succeed over
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there with the Raiders. And two, he's a guy that you can
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trust as an offensive mind and a leader as we've seen how how
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good that Seattle locker room has been all season long.
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It's not all about McDonald. Everybody wants to give Mike
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McDonald a lot of credit for that.
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It was his coordinators, every single guy.
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Well, his whole coaching staff, they have been successful all
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season long because of the way they've coached these guys up.
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Look at the talent that they have.
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Even with the time that you had guys very well respected, guys
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like Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll is a very well
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respected coach in the NFL. Successful won a Super Bowl, has
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won national championships. I, I think the, the
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understanding was, is that a lot of these players didn't like
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Pete Carroll at the end of his time over there with Seattle.
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He had no control over Russell Wilson.
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He had no control over certain players on the defensive side of
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the ball as the defensive side and the offensive side could not
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get along in the locker room. As we heard Richard Sherman come
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out and say on his podcast that there were a lot of disliked
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people in that locker room. It's not like that with Mike
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McDonald. As a matter of fact, when they
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they won the the conference and they won the NFC, they were
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dancing and prancing around like they won the Super Bowl and a
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lot of different teams that watch in San Francisco watching
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their dancing and prancing. They use that as stuff to to
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really push them to knock them off.
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What would what would be the word for that gave him?
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That boost? I won't even say Boost gave him
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the confidence to go out there and try to knock them off.
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But Seattle, to me, the success of Seattle this year was Sam
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Donald. It it was really redeveloping
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and really putting him in the position to succeed.
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And Mike McDonald did the defensive coordinator.
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So when you go back and you look at what Seattle's offense was
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this year, which was absolutely unbelievable, one of the top
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five teams metrically in all statistics offensively, you
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know, it wasn't because of Mike McDonald was all about Clint
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Kubiak. And that's why when you sit back
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and you understand what it takes to win.
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In the NFL, it takes a lot. It takes everything.
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It's like this when you're trying to ride a wave.
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Surfing is one of the hardest things to do.
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It's one of the hardest thing anybody try to surf.
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If you have and you haven't, the first thing you learn is balance
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technique. If you don't have the right
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balance when you're getting up on the board, you're going to
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fall right off of it. You have to understand the
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technique before you get a chance to get on top of that
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wave and ride it all the way to the end.
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That's the same thing when it becomes to professional sports,
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especially football. When you're coaching 53 players
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in a locker room, you have multiple coaches.
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You have a quarterback coach, you have an offensive corner,
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defensive corner lines coach, defensive line coach,
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quarterback coach. They're all, there's a ton of
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coaches. There's like 15 coaches on a
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roster. Everything has to work In Sync
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with each other for everything to work.
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And that takes leadership. And Clint Kubiak, to me, because
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he's been behind and under his father so many years.
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And learning from his father and his other brother and
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understanding the game of football has really given you
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the belief to understand if you're a you're a Vegas Raiders
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fan, that you're going to hire a competent guy.
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Tom Brady is a smart man. Now, I don't know if he can run
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an organization and I don't know how the NFL allows this guy as a
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broadcaster under Fox with the contract that he has to be able
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to own a piece of a team and run a team.
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That was never allowed. As a matter of fact, that was in
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the rule book that you cannot be like that.
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You cannot have that stature. But being that he's Tom Brady
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and he's the greatest, some people say the greatest
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quarterback of all time, Tom Brady somehow maneuvered around
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that. And Goodell allows Tom Brady to
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be a broadcaster slash owner. And I knew that Tom Brady was
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going to be behind this hire. And the reason why I think that
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this might work is because Clint Kubiak is a guy that wants to
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succeed. He doesn't want to be compared
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to his father or his brother. He wants to go out there, put it
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all on the line. You saw what Seattle did this
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year. You saw what he did against the
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Rams, the play calling, the distinct play calling on.
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He just completely dominated the line of scrimmage with the
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running game with Walker. This is going to going to be an
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opportunity for Clint Kubiak for he's probably going to sign a 5
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or 6 year deal. It's going to they're Tom Brady
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and Davis is going to give him a time to to build this team,
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build this roster to fit his understanding of how this roster
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is going to play. Yeah, I was mentioning last week
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when we were talking about Todd Monken going to the Browns.
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Like, I think certain coaches and offensive coordinators are
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evolutionary compared to trying to stick with one scheme.
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And I think somebody like Kubiak who's been around many different
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teams in a span of five years, 5, five teams in really seven
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years, basically when he was with Minnesota, the last three
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years that Mike Zimmer was there and helped Kirk Cousins really
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grow to that next level. Remember Kirk Cousins had a
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really bad first year in Minnesota.
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I remember the bee was mocking me on Facebook for thinking that
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they were going to miss the playoffs that year.
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And I said they don't do well in back-to-back years.
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And Cousins 1st year, there was not a lot around him.
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They didn't do well. It was year 2.
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That really was the leap with Minnesota.
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Then he's worked over there with San Francisco, with Kyle
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Shanahan, help Sam Darnold at that time grow along with his
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brother who's still with the 49ers organization and him as a
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backup in 2023 helped him grow to not play in Minnesota.
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And then the ultimate pedicle this year in Seattle.
23:45
And the gate thing you got to give him credit for in Seattle
23:47
most of all, in addition to Sam Darnold, is the fact that he has
23:49
all these random receivers, all these random tight ends and made
23:53
that kind of thing work yet. And Jigboat was great.
23:54
Yeah, Kenneth Walker was good. But they had all these other
23:57
role players that helped them in the playoffs to help them beat
24:00
the Rams, help them destroy the 49ers.
24:02
That took it to another level. And I think you could you need
24:04
that kind of thing obviously with the Raiders, because Rock
24:07
Bowers is going to get attention.
24:08
If he's healthy. Gent, he's obviously going to
24:10
get attention. We'll see how well the offensive
24:11
line plays. That's another story.
24:12
But you need other guys to step up if you want a good team
24:15
offense and you want Fernando Mendoza's to develop into an NFL
24:18
quarterback because there's a lot of questions with, oh, is he
24:21
really as good as the number one pick prospect as Caleb Williams
24:24
was as good as even Trevor Lawrence was?
24:26
Like there's going to be some questions with that kind of
24:28
thing, especially with the level of receivers which they have,
24:30
which is not very good. How about all the different
24:32
quarterbacks they've drafted over the years?
24:34
I mean, Russell was an absolute debacle.
24:36
I mean, they've drafted a lot of top end quarterbacks over the
24:40
years and had a lot of respectable coaches.
24:43
I mean, John Gruden was probably the most successful coach with
24:46
the Raiders in the last 15 years.
24:48
And what happened is they had the fire him because of that
24:51
whole, that whole e-mail situation with the Washington
24:55
Commanders and and Rodger Goodell and all these
24:58
executives, He was the one that got had to be fired.
25:00
He was the one that was thrown to the wolves.
25:02
And that's why he won the lawsuit against the NFL.
25:05
And Jon Gruden, well, I don't know if he'll ever get a job
25:08
again. I know The Jets were going to
25:09
probably offer him the offensive coordinator job.
25:11
But again, Clint Kubiak is a guy that's again, very well
25:15
respected and and obviously knows the game of football as
25:18
well as any offensive young coach has really gotten an
25:23
opportunity over the last couple years.
25:24
Here's another thing. I, I, I know and I, I haven't
25:27
spoken about Mike Lafleur yet and I'm going to get a chance to
25:29
do that. And I, I wanted to split this up
25:31
because Mike Lafleur, I have my own thoughts too.
25:33
And I know a little bit about Mike Lafleur because he was the
25:36
offensive coordinator for the New York Jets.
25:38
It didn't really he he it didn't really work over there because
25:42
him and Robert Sala and the organization is especially,
25:46
especially Joe Douglas, who didn't, he wasn't Joe Douglas
25:50
his first pick, but it was Robert Salas guy because
25:53
Lafleur, Matt Lafleur and Robert Sala are very close friends.
25:57
Robert Sala was his best or part of his wedding party, one of his
26:01
best men in his wedding and and a guy that and by the way, I
26:04
don't know if anybody knows this Robert Sala when he got fired by
26:06
The Jets, where did he go and work?
26:08
He worked for the Green Bay Packers for a year before he
26:10
took over for the 49ers as their defensive coordinator.
26:14
I, I want to finish up with Kubiak because I think there's
26:16
something to be said about Clint Kubiak that a lot of people
26:19
don't understand. Everybody and, and a lot of
26:22
these kids that want to be a coach or be a player, they want
26:27
to, they want to go, they want to ride into their father's
26:29
footsteps. I mean, Noah, Noah Eagle, his
26:33
father is Eye and Eagle and Eye and Eagle has been a successful
26:37
broadcaster and one of the best voices for the CBS Sports and
26:40
basketball and ESPN and, and Nets basketball.
26:44
This guy has been very successful.
26:45
So what did Noah do? He went into broadcasting and
26:47
wanted to be just like his father.
26:49
And after he after he graduated from Syracuse, he got an
26:53
opportunity to work for the Clippers.
26:55
And now he's he working for CBS Sports and he's getting the
26:58
opportunity. Everybody's going to give
27:00
Clinton Kubiak that. Oh, well, your father's Gary
27:04
Kubiak. That's why you're getting an
27:05
opportunity like this. And a lot of people going to
27:07
look at that and say, well, how do you jump after five years or
27:11
not even five years, four years to become a head coach for a
27:15
National Football team? And it's very simple to
27:17
understand here. When you are around football
27:20
your whole life, you eat, sleep, crap football your whole life
27:26
and your father is teaching you as a youngster, even as a
27:29
football player, what the XS and OS what what it is to display
27:33
and understand the what you're seeing on film.
27:37
It is not as easy as well. My father's Gary Kubiak and
27:40
that's why I got a job. It takes time, it takes work, it
27:44
takes discipline and I give a lot of credit to the Kubiak
27:48
brothers and and what they've done to earn the right to
27:51
eventually be a coach in the NFL.
27:53
It again, it it's not something that there are there are minimum
27:57
amount of teams in the NFL. There's 32 teams in the NFL.
28:00
Not everybody gets a coaching job.
28:02
A lot of these coordinators might never get a coaching job,
28:04
maybe because they're not distinct enough.
28:06
They don't have the personality enough.
28:08
When I look at Clint Kubiak and his brother, and I've seen a lot
28:11
of father and sons that have eventually, you know, obviously
28:15
Bill Belichick, his his father was a head coach for the, for
28:18
North, for the North Carolina Tar Heels years and years ago.
28:21
His no, his father never coached in the NFL.
28:24
But what did Bill Belichick wanted to do?
28:26
He wanted to coach professional football.
28:30
So we worked under Bill Parcells, learned under Bill
28:32
Parcells and eventually got a chance to coach the Browns.
28:35
And then eventually that didn't work.
28:36
They went back to the Giants, won a couple more, won another
28:39
Super Bowl and then got a chance with The Jets.
28:42
We're going to The Jets with Bill Parcells.
28:44
Parcells gave him a job. It didn't work, 24 hours, he
28:47
goes to the Patriots and there she blows.
28:49
And, and we all know the back end of Bill Belichick's career
28:52
and his accomplishments. I'm not saying Clint Kubiak is
28:55
going to win a Super Bowl. I'm not going to say that Clint
28:58
Kubiak is going to succeed over there with the Raiders.
29:00
Because usually when you look at statistics and you look at
29:03
understanding of analytics, that the Raiders have not been a good
29:06
organization since the 80s. So this is not an organization
29:10
that succeeds. But when you put the right guy
29:12
in place, as Seattle did with Mike McDonald, as we see Mike
29:16
Frabel over there with the Patriots, and we've seen, look
29:19
at the Texans and and the opportunity they've had over the
29:22
last couple of years with their coaching staff, if you put the
29:24
right guy in place, you will succeed.
29:27
Quickly, before you go fish, I just want to mention that I
29:29
think the Raiders trends are a little different than some of
29:31
the other teams. We'll talk about we'll talk
29:32
about the Cardinals in a bit. They haven't hired a coach with
29:35
experience since O 4. Miami, we talked about last
29:37
week, has an hired a coach as well for I think since the
29:39
beginning of the decade. And now all of a sudden they're
29:42
going with a different direction now Josh McDaniels, an
29:44
unconventional one. Jon Gruden, obviously they took
29:46
a, they took a chance on giving him that amount of, but they
29:49
took a. Chance they were they were
29:51
accomplished and and if you look at their success when he was
29:54
there, they were very successful.
29:56
Oh, I know. So took a chance.
29:58
Well, no. Forgive him $100 million in the
30:00
GM position. The Giants just gave John
30:02
Harbaugh $100 million. And if you look at John Harbaugh
30:05
in the last two years, they he hasn't been accomplished.
30:09
He hasn't done well ever since Mike McDonald left as these
30:13
defensive coordinator. They take over Seattle.
30:15
What has John Harbold done? Well, nothing I'm talking about
30:17
from the perspective of giving me the GM contract too at the
30:20
same time because we've seen a lot of coaches outside.
30:21
You've got to pay if you want a good coach, you want to get a
30:24
coach in place, especially a veteran coach.
30:26
You got to pay him because he's not going to take a job,
30:28
especially a job where, you know, there's been a lot of
30:31
backlash. But the Raiders have also had
30:32
the reputation going the other way.
30:33
Because they haven't hired A flashy rookie coach because they
30:37
had a Vegas, You think you would have a Vegas vibes there to be
30:39
able to do that kind of thing and get a good coach there.
30:41
But they haven't done that either.
30:43
And this is the best one combination of that, too.
30:45
But at the same time, we have to see how he works with the
30:47
players because you're right, the Raiders organization has a
30:49
bad record of treating their players.
30:50
Remember we talked about it when Josh McDaniels was there, that
30:53
whole situation with Chandler Jones when he came up to his
30:56
house and like, like arrested him for something, like accused
30:59
him of something and it didn't happen.
31:00
Now you're talking about Max Crosby and Derek Carr, their
31:03
best quarterback they mistreated and he didn't want to stay there
31:05
anymore with Josh McDaniels. This is the Tom Brady effect,
31:08
though. Tom Brady knows what a young
31:10
quarterback needs, and it's going to be Fernando Mendoza.
31:14
So what do you want to get a guy like that?
31:16
You want to get a run game. You want to get him an offense
31:20
that lets you play run first and play play action off of the run.
31:24
That's the staple of the Gary Kubiak offense, the Mike
31:27
Shanahan offense dating back to the 49ers in the early 90s with
31:31
the timing patterns of the West Coast.
31:34
Clint Kubiak, all he does is kind of run versions of the the
31:40
current Kyle Shanahan offense with all the motions, all the
31:43
three by one sets the deep shots.
31:46
But he is also still trying to run the zone plays at the same
31:49
time. So he comes out the personnel
31:52
where speedy. You see a lot of multiple tight
31:53
end sets. You see these different kind of
31:56
backfields from Seattle, you're seeing from other teams, but
32:00
you're also getting all the motions you see from all the
32:02
other teams. And it's a new type of offense
32:04
and you should get the job with a team if there's 10 openings,
32:09
if you are the coach of the offense of the team who is the
32:12
favorite heading into the Super Bowl?
32:13
He deserves this shot. He absolutely doesn't.
32:16
Tom Brady Smart. Give the quarterback a coach.
32:19
Is hold on, hold on. We don't know what Tom Brady is
32:22
yet as an owner. I mean, obviously he's going to
32:24
get an. Opportunity to Michigan.
32:26
He's smart, you know. We know that.
32:27
Well, he's, he's smart enough to be one of the elite quarterbacks
32:31
we've seen in of all time. I mean, there's only one
32:34
quarterback that I would take over him right now and that's
32:37
Joe Montana. And, and there's reasons why I
32:39
would take Joe Montana over Tom Brady.
32:41
Some people would argue with me, but that's fine.
32:43
Some people would take Peyton Manning, even though Peyton
32:45
Manning hasn't been accomplished over there in the playoffs.
32:48
Nevertheless, Tom Brady is a guy that understands the quarterback
32:52
position and and obviously Mendoza is the guy that he
32:56
believes is going to take this team and he's going to drive
32:58
them. So and I and there's no question
33:00
that Mendoza could be successful.
33:02
We've seen what he's done everywhere.
33:03
He's jumped from high school to to pee wee football pee wee to
33:07
high school to now the college football winning a national
33:11
championship, being a Heisman Trophy winner and now getting a
33:14
chance to play as a number one pick.
33:16
And no, but I, I'm sure Mendoza, if you ask Mendoza today or
33:20
yesterday I was at the Heisman dinner.
33:22
No, I don't think Mando's ever thought in his wildest dreams he
33:25
would be a Heisman Trophy winner.
33:27
So he is an accomplished quarterback and and now an
33:31
organization that's going to be looking for a guy that that's
33:33
going to be able to steer them to possibly a Super Bowl
33:36
championship. So as far as the Mike Lafleur
33:38
story, Mike Lafleur is a guy that has been coaching behind
33:42
Sean McVeigh for the last couple of years.
33:44
Yes, he is considered the offensive coordinator for the
33:47
Rams, but the guy that was calling the plays was Sean
33:49
McVeigh. I don't care what anybody says,
33:51
Sean McVeigh is the mastermind of that offensive side of the
33:54
ball. That's why the Rams were the
33:55
best offensive team in the NFL this year and and what the
33:58
weapons they have. Nobody wanted that Arizona
34:01
Cardinals job. Nobody.
34:04
Kyla Murray is not going to be there next year, no matter who
34:07
the head coaches. There's no way Mike Lafleur is
34:09
going to be able to control this guy because he talks in a third
34:11
person more than anybody I've ever seen.
34:13
And Mike Lafleur has not been very good with quarterbacks in
34:17
the past, as we remember with the New York Jets.
34:21
Here's the facts, and I don't know if anybody knows this.
34:24
Sam Darnold was the starting quarterback of the New York Jets
34:28
when Robert Sala and Joe Douglas were there.
34:32
Both Robert Sala, Mike Lafleur and Joe Douglas decided that Sam
34:37
Donald wasn't a competent quarterback and wasn't going to
34:40
be successful as a starting quarterback in the NFL.
34:43
So they decided to move him for a second and fourth.
34:45
Yes, Mike Lafleur had a big part of that.
34:47
Also, Mike Lafleur had a big part on bringing in Zach Wilson.
34:53
He went to the bowl, Three of those guys went to his pro day,
34:57
watched him throw and said, oh, the oohs and the ahs throwing on
35:00
his back foot. The the, the running, you know,
35:04
running and throwing in the ability that Zach Wilson, the
35:06
accuracy that Zach Wilson had after playing and and obviously
35:10
starting for BYU, he failed. Mike Lafleur failed and he was
35:17
calling the place. It wasn't Robert Saleh.
35:18
He was calling the plays over there with the New York Jets.
35:22
The Jets were one of the worst offensive teams, if not the
35:24
worst offensive team. I think they were ranked 31st in
35:28
offense when he was there for the 2 1/2 years that he was
35:31
there. It was only when he went to Sean
35:35
McVay and coached under him where that success became an
35:39
opportunity for him to eventually get this coaching
35:42
job. Nobody wanted that Cardinals
35:44
job. Nobody.
35:46
I guarantee you, and I don't know how, I don't know the
35:48
number of how many coaches they interviewed, but what I've heard
35:51
there were two coaches that went for one interview and it would
35:54
call back and they didn't want to go over there for the second
35:57
interview. They rather go and become a
36:00
wanted to stay as a defensive coordinator and sign a contract
36:02
as a defensive coordinator. I heard that Brian Flores got
36:05
offered the job. He didn't want it.
36:07
That's why he signed the contract for for another year
36:10
under and he's the highest paid defensive coordinator right now
36:13
in the NFL under in Minnesota. He didn't want the job.
36:18
And here's the thing, I don't know if Brian Flores will ever
36:21
get a job for the what happened over there with the Miami
36:23
Dolphins. I don't know because he's
36:25
interviewed for plenty of jobs and we've seen guys from Kansas
36:29
City and you know what I'm talking about interview Eric be
36:33
enemy be enemy. He is interviewed for multiple
36:36
jobs. I think you interviewed like
36:37
1718 times and went from multiple second interviews and
36:41
never got the job. And Eric be enemy now is back
36:43
with Kansas City as a, I don't know, an offensive coach on the
36:47
side. He's not the offensive
36:48
coordinator, He's under Matt Nagy.
36:50
Mike Lafleur was the only one, the only crazy one that would
36:53
take this job. Now, here's the thing.
36:55
The Arizona Cardinals have a very good roster.
36:58
They don't have a quarterback, but their defense was elite this
37:01
year. This was one of the top 12
37:03
defenses in the NFL. They have a competent running
37:06
back. I don't know if Connor's coming
37:07
back next year, but he's a competent, Yeah.
37:09
They gave him an extension. He'll be on the roster, but how
37:11
healthy is he? Marvin Harrison junior is is
37:14
still hasn't really developed into the star that his father
37:17
was, but still has a tremendous amount of time to become that.
37:20
He's only 21 years old, 22 years old.
37:22
He's got a lot of time. They have McBride, who's
37:25
probably the best tight end in the NFL.
37:28
They have weapons and their offensive line actually played
37:32
well this year at some parts of the season.
37:36
So Michael Ford, I understand why a lot of people don't want
37:38
to coach over there because of ownership, because of all the
37:42
backlash that we've seen over the last couple years with the
37:45
Arizona team. Kyler Murray is another guy that
37:48
a lot of coaches don't want to take responsibility for ever
37:52
since Kingsbury has left. And here's the thing.
37:58
A guy like Kingsbury who had a chance to cut to draft not one
38:03
but two quarterbacks in the top three, he had a top quarterback
38:08
decided to part ways with him to bring in a guy like Kyler
38:12
Murray. And Kyler Murray had one good
38:14
season, and me and Speedy were very high on him.
38:16
I remember. He was just funny.
38:18
I wasn't out of that draft, but I was impressed with him in Year
38:20
1. You were high on him.
38:22
You were high on him, and so was I Josh Silverberg wasn't.
38:25
No lower than us. Yes, death.
38:27
He didn't like him, no, and he was right.
38:29
Josh was right about him. That this guy does not work good
38:33
with others. This guy is a cocky SOB, goes
38:37
out there, likes to talk for himself, doesn't stick up for
38:40
his teammates. This reminds me of Russell
38:42
Wilson. Now you're hearing stories with
38:45
obviously Kyler Murray. Maybe The Jets interested.
38:48
The Jets need to stay far, far away from Kyler Murray.
38:50
And when you're bringing in a new offensive head coach, you
38:54
want to get that guy out of that locker room.
38:56
You do not want to deal with Kyler Murray.
38:59
And I, I think that was the problem because I still think
39:01
ownership might believe in Kyler Murray.
39:05
And now you got to go into your first season with Kyler Murray
39:08
as your head, as your, your starting quarterback, your
39:10
number one. I, I don't know how that's going
39:12
to work. And Mike Lafleur over the like I
39:15
said, the time that I saw him with The Jets, he didn't work
39:18
well with quarterbacks. Zach Wilson and him didn't
39:22
click. And then they Robert Soller
39:25
thought, hey, get rid of Mike Lafleur.
39:26
I'm going to bring in somebody else.
39:28
Maybe that will help. Zach Wilson.
39:29
He didn't. It made it worse.
39:32
And again, that was Mike Lafleur's pick.
39:34
He wanted Zach Wilson. They could have drafted Justin
39:37
Fields. Obviously Justin Fields didn't
39:38
work because he was there with The Jets this year.
39:41
But who knows? Maybe if he went in the right,
39:43
right place and he wasn't working under Everfloose the
39:46
time that he was with Chicago, maybe Justin Fields is
39:48
successful. But here's the fact here.
39:53
The only reason why Mike Lafleur got is getting this offer, the
39:56
only reason why he's going to get this position is because
39:59
nobody in the NFL wanted it. And that is a fact.
40:03
So anybody I feel bad for the Arizona Cardinals because maybe
40:07
I'm wrong. Maybe this guy is is going to
40:09
change his ways. Maybe being under Sean McVay for
40:13
the little bit of time that he was for the last couple of years
40:16
and getting a chance to work under an offensive genius, even
40:18
though it doesn't shut the hell up, maybe that changed.
40:22
His way of thinking as as an offensive Miners, as an
40:25
offensive coach, but only time will tell.
40:28
But what I've seen as a New York Jet fan, it it's alarming to me
40:33
when they still don't have the one position that a lot of these
40:37
teams that have been unsuccessful over the last
40:39
couple years, Arizona being one of them has not accomplished.
40:42
And that is a quarterback. And that that to me is a big
40:46
problem. And Arizona does not have a
40:50
chance to draft a quarterback in this class.
40:52
This is not a good class for quarterbacks.
40:54
So Arizona's going to have to wait a year to bring in a young
40:58
quarterback, which next year's quarterback class is going to be
41:01
loaded. You have Sellers, you have
41:03
Manning and, and I, I would probably bet my bottom dollar
41:06
Arizona will try to lose out every single game this offseat
41:10
this season. So they can get that number one
41:12
pick to Lana Manning. And will Arch Manning or Archie
41:15
Manning, a grandfather of Arch Manning, ever let his his
41:20
grandson go and play for the Arizona Cardinals?
41:22
Because we all know Peyton Manning could have been a Jet
41:25
the year that he became available to go into the NFL
41:28
draft. And what did he decide to do?
41:29
He decided to go back to Tennessee as a senior because
41:32
Archie Manning did not want him to play for The Jets.
41:35
And that's why The Jets drafted Keyshawn Johnson.
41:37
It's always interesting with Lafleur.
41:38
I've always been under the impression that in this hiring
41:41
cycle, I don't think he was ever as bad as he was when he showed
41:44
it with The Jets. I also don't think he's as good
41:46
as he showed on the Rams. I think he's kind of somewhere
41:48
in between now. I was talking in the in the
41:50
private chat. Is a tweener.
41:51
Is that what you're? Kind of.
41:52
And I was talking the private chat last week with some of our
41:55
interns when the Steelers hired Mike, we were talking Steelers
41:57
hiring Mike McCarthy and a lot of them wanted a lot of those
41:59
guys from that Sean McVey coaching tree, which I've said
42:01
has mostly been a net negative. Now, what's interesting is Kevin
42:04
O'Connell, and I don't think Zach Taylor's great, but I think
42:07
he's competent, are decent coaches that are coming from
42:10
this McVeigh tree. And that's the offensive side of
42:11
the tree. It's the defensive side of the
42:13
tree that hasn't been as good with Brady Morris, obviously,
42:15
who just got fired, and Brandon Staley, who was awful with the
42:18
LA Chargers. So where does Mike Lafleur fall
42:21
into that? More on the offensive side?
42:23
First of all, just so you know, O'Connell, all those guys are
42:28
under the Shanahan tree. Just so you know, I don't think
42:31
you understand from Mike Shanahan and Kyle Shanahan.
42:35
That's where Sean McVeigh came from.
42:37
That's where O'Connell came from.
42:39
That's where Mike McDaniel came from.
42:41
So you keep saying it's the Sean McVeigh tree.
42:43
It's not the Sean McVeigh. The one that's the Sean McVeigh
42:46
tree is my is Michael 4. He is under the Sean McVeigh
42:49
tree. But the guys that you're
42:51
mentioning that is not that is not the Sean McVeigh tree.
42:55
So I don't know where you're coming up, but oh, this is part
42:57
of the Sean McVeigh tree because Sean McVeigh was under the.
43:00
The entry, OK, well, the entry is a little bigger than just
43:03
McVeigh, so I was just more specifying it down.
43:05
But when I look at, yeah, bigger coaches getting the opportunity
43:08
somewhere else, yeah, Brian Flores and yeah, them turning
43:12
him down, he definitely shows a reputation with the ownership
43:13
that I didn't think it really had.
43:15
I agree. The roster is pretty good.
43:16
I think the offensive line was a lot better than I expected this
43:18
year. Paris Johnson I did not think
43:20
was going to be as good of a tackle as he was.
43:22
He looked pretty good. Trey McBride, like you said,
43:23
best tight end in football, even though Harrison hasn't
43:25
developed, you got Michael Wilson who's a pretty good
43:27
receiver. Question will come with the
43:29
quarterback. They'll probably get some
43:30
journeyman in the trade or something like that for this
43:32
year because I I think they're going to cut Kyler Murray at
43:34
this point. The defense will see if it still
43:36
plays as well with a scheme fit and will it get a actually good
43:38
defensive coordinator will be another question because you're
43:40
right. They had a lot of defensive mind
43:42
head coaches that turned them down, including Chris Shula.
43:44
And funny enough, they actually interviewed Roy Morrison would
43:47
have interviewed Robert Solef the.
43:49
Kevin says that he thinks that they should go with Brissett
43:53
this coming year instead of Kyla Murray.
43:55
And that's a good take, Kevin. But here's the thing.
43:58
Brissett is a free agent and there are other teams right now
44:01
looking for a starting quarterback.
44:03
As you said, as we've been saying, the New York Jets, they
44:06
don't have a quarterback in place.
44:07
They need to bring in a veteran guy.
44:09
They're not drafting a quarterback in this class.
44:11
And even if they do, it'll be probably a third or maybe even a
44:14
fifth round draft pick where they're going to have to sit him
44:17
for practically half of the season with a veteran
44:20
quarterback. And that's why Jacoby percent is
44:22
going to get money. A lot of these veteran
44:24
quarterbacks. I I've been saying Davis, what
44:26
Davis Mills is a guy I would go after if I'm The Jets or I'm any
44:30
one of these teams. He is.
44:32
I think this is Year 5 for him. He is a free agent.
44:35
That's the guy I'm going after if I'm AGM right now of an
44:39
organization. I've seen enough of Mills that
44:41
he can be an accomplished quarterback in this league and
44:44
maybe if he goes to a team, maybe gets a chance like Sam
44:47
Donald to accomplish his his his opportunity to be a starting
44:50
quarterback and maybe he changes his ways and and maybe becomes
44:54
that that quarterback that a lot.
44:55
I believe he could be in the NFLI wouldn't say elite, but if
44:59
he's a top ten quarterback and you can win with that, if even
45:01
if he's a top 15 quarterback, you can win that win with that.
45:04
And I think Davis Mills can absolutely be a top 15
45:08
quarterback in the NFL. Yeah, it's going to be up to
45:10
Lafleur to get the other guys going first because they're not
45:13
going to be able to draft a quarterback this year.
45:15
I wouldn't even take a flyer on the second or third round.
45:17
I think the Cardinals still need enough where I think you're
45:19
looking at them just building up maybe the pass rush, building up
45:22
the receiving depth a little more.
45:23
I think the running backs, there's enough young ones on
45:26
their roster to try to figure out.
45:27
They just have to stay healthy. And I just think you get a
45:29
quarterback after that. Again, I think it's a middle
45:32
tier higher. I don't love it.
45:33
Don't hate it either way, but I hate it.
45:35
Yeah. I'm not going to say it's as
45:36
long as you. Say you don't love it or don't
45:38
hate it. It's it's terrible.
45:39
The Cardinals were reaching on this.
45:42
I don't think the Kubiak thing was I, I do not believe the Las
45:45
Vegas Raiders were reaching on Kubiak if he wasn't their number
45:49
one guy, but I'm sure he was in their top three.
45:52
So the Raiders are still getting a top three type of guy that was
45:56
on their list. The Cardinals interviewed like
45:58
10 guys and asked for two guys to come back for second
46:01
interviews and they didn't want to.
46:03
Brian Flores decided to go back to Minnesota, take more money as
46:08
a defensive coordinator because he didn't want that job.
46:10
He had no interest in taking that job.
46:12
That says a lot about where Mike Lafleur is going and what kind
46:16
of organization he's going to say whatever you want.
46:19
Speed you don't like, you don't hate it.
46:20
But hey, you didn't like the Robert Sala move.
46:23
But everybody, everybody and their mother, Bleacher Report,
46:25
Yahoo Sports gave him an A minus, gave Tennessee an A
46:29
minus. OK, you say what you say.
46:31
You don't like it, You don't hate it.
46:33
You're going to tell me that Robert Sala is not better than
46:35
Mike Lafleur? Come on.
46:37
He already. Fails that and.
46:38
What do you think Michael Ford's going to do over there with the
46:41
Cardinals? He's got no quarterback.
46:43
He has no position in play over there.
46:45
What's he taking over? He's taking a good roster over
46:47
with a lot of good young players, but with a lot of good
46:50
young players. Can he coach up because he
46:53
couldn't coach Zach Wilson? As a matter of fact, what pissed
46:56
me off about Michael Ford more than anything as a New York Jet
46:59
fan is he never was on the bench.
47:01
He was up in the press box calling the plays.
47:04
It was only his final year with the last five games of the
47:07
season where he was on the field talking to the quarterback.
47:10
You're going to pick that as your head coach, a guy that
47:14
didn't want to be with your quarterback, the guy that chose
47:16
that quarterback to be his guy and part ways with a quarterback
47:20
that's now in a Super Bowl. Oh, you don't like it, you don't
47:23
hate it. That shows you that I would not
47:25
pick you as a guy that's going to pick my roster, speedy or a
47:29
guy that's going to pick my coach.
47:30
You can never be a GM in this league.
47:32
If you're going to tell me you don't like it, you don't hate
47:34
it. I absolutely hate it.
47:36
It's a horrible move. Arizona's going to fail and
47:39
you're going to have all these guys, McBride, you're going to
47:41
have Marvin Harrison junior. They're going to ask their way
47:43
out of there because they're not going to want to be coached by
47:45
this kid. And he is going to sign at least
47:48
a five year deal, at least a five year deal, because he knows
47:51
that this roster and whoever they bring in this year, we're
47:53
going to have to wait until next year to bring in the quarterback
47:56
that of of his choosing because this class is not good.
47:59
What's he going to bring Carson back?
48:01
Do you think that Mike Lafleur can control Carson back after he
48:04
couldn't control Zach Wilson? Zach Wilson was an incompetent
48:08
idiot and you're going to tell me, well, I don't like it, I
48:11
don't hate it. I hate it.
48:13
And it for you to sit there as a football guy and an analytic
48:17
guy, you should know what he did as an offensive coordinator with
48:21
the New York Jets and you know, as a football person that
48:24
watches the Rams, Do you think for one second he was calling
48:27
the place yes or no, yes or no? I said yes or no, yes or no.
48:33
Stop with this. That's not what I'm asking you.
48:35
I want to hear a yes or no question because this is no, he
48:38
wasn't calling the place. Alright, alright, that's it.
48:40
No. So how do you think and why do
48:43
you think that this is not a good or a bad hire?
48:46
Again, I don't think I don't think his extremes would make.
48:48
No sense. All right?
48:50
I don't want to hear anymore from you, fish.
48:52
I want to hear your take on it. I don't want to hear anymore
48:54
because you're going around, you're beating around the Bush.
48:56
It doesn't make any sense. You don't like it.
48:58
You don't hate it. But you you don't like the
49:00
Robert Solo hire. It's terrible.
49:02
OK, so here, here, here. Here's my F Mike Lafleur is an
49:05
FFF. Because if you don't like Robert
49:08
Solo, you definitely shouldn't like Mike Lafleur.
49:10
I think I'd rather have solo before I.
49:12
Absolutely. I think it's kind of easy to
49:15
make that pick and I think the Cardinals ended up picking them
49:18
because, like you said, they were the last guys to pick and
49:22
he was the what they thought was the cheapest, best alternative
49:26
to what they could get. He doesn't call plays.
49:29
He's an offensive coordinator. I still don't really understand
49:32
what that means. I like it as like, I guess he's
49:36
the one that's running the meetings.
49:37
He's the one doing the exes and others.
49:39
But McVeigh is calling the plays in the day and doing the
49:41
day-to-day under pressure during the game type of stuff.
49:45
I mean, he's helping McVeigh, but it's not like he's the one
49:48
doing it now. Is he really great at XS and OS?
49:51
Yeah, He's from the the school of all those guys.
49:53
If he hires a good a good offensive coordinator that he
49:56
knows can call plays, maybe he's successful, but I would say it's
50:01
probably not going to happen. I wanted to, to speedy, you
50:05
know, I think it's important to think of where these guys come
50:08
from. So they're all from the
50:10
Shanahan. Both of these guys are
50:11
technically Shanahan, all of them tree guys like Kubiak,
50:15
right? Cuz Kubiak, you know, like
50:16
Kubiak and Mike Shanahan, we're coaching together.
50:18
So I, I like to look at like how they rose up.
50:22
And you mentioned Bill Belichick before.
50:23
He didn't start with Parcells. He started as an assistant
50:28
getting paid no money just because his dad had a connection
50:32
with Ted Marchibrota of the 70s Colts.
50:35
I had this book that I read a long ago and I was always amazed
50:37
by he just wanted a foot in the door and he just started
50:40
coaching. And then they couldn't get rid
50:42
of the guy because he was too good.
50:44
And, and then he just went from one job to the next.
50:47
He didn't have a rabbi really in the NFL.
50:50
He didn't have somebody that could, you know, like, like
50:53
shelter him to the next place, like a Shanahan tree, like a
50:56
McVeigh tree to take care of him.
50:58
I look at Kubiak. He could have done what Lefleur
51:02
did and stay with Shanahan guys his whole career because that's
51:04
what Lefleur did. He's only ever been with
51:07
Shanahan guys. That includes Salah when he was
51:09
there. That's a Shanahan guy too,
51:11
technically not really offensively, but still a
51:13
Shanahan guy. Look at Kubiak started in
51:17
Denver, but he went to the Vikings, he's gone.
51:19
He went, he went to the he's done stuff on his own.
51:21
He's been like 5 team speedy in the last five years, something
51:24
like that. And he's learned from every
51:26
include Shanahan. So he stopped there too.
51:29
And he ran the offense for Shanahan as like the guy you
51:32
know, behind Shanahan. So he's had that role a couple
51:35
of years before. Now Lafleur is getting that job
51:39
like 3 years ahead of like Kubiak's schedule.
51:42
I I just don't see that. We've seen what Lafleur does,
51:46
what he did when he was calling the place for The Jets.
51:48
It just wasn't good enough. So I don't even think it's
51:51
particularly close. The only thing I'd worry about
51:53
as a Cardinals fan is, you know, there's always one team that
51:57
does it. Arrow.
51:58
They reach for the quarterback that shouldn't be drafted here.
52:01
If there's not enough quarterbacks in the draft in the
52:03
first round and if Ty Simpson really has a good workout, I
52:09
would be really afraid. If they do something stupid and
52:12
take them up high because they want a quarterback, this is the
52:16
the program that would do something like that, and that's
52:19
what I'd be afraid of. I'd like to thank everybody that
52:22
listens to our show, all the fans on Spotify and Apple video
52:26
and audio, all the fans 107th we were ranked at I think on
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Saturday. So and we are amongst the best
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and follow us and search for us. We really appreciate you guys.
52:42
Sorry that job but did not join us.
52:43
He he decided to stay in New York for another extra day.
52:47
He told me at 4:30 that he's getting on his plane now.
52:50
I'm like, dude, you're not going to make it to the show.
52:52
He's like, I'm going to try to make it.
52:54
I knew he wasn't going to make it and he's probably listen to
52:57
the show right now. So hopefully we got Jabba for
53:00
the whole show on Thursday. But yeah, thank you to all the
53:03
TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, all the fans on those platforms,
53:08
YouTube, Jabba in the mouth. We really appreciate all you
53:11
guys Speedy who we have on. Thursday, all right, Super Bowl
53:15
champion 8:45 will be joining us, former New York Giants tight
53:18
end Howard Cross. Oh, that's right, That's right.
53:21
Nathan was the one that scooped him up.
53:23
Yes, he was one of the better goal line defenders of all time,
53:27
right? No, that was Gary Reasons.
53:29
He'll be out in a. Few.
53:30
Oh, that's right. That's right.
53:31
Howard Cross. I'm trying to remember Howard
53:33
Cross. I don't.
53:34
Remember the tight end shock? He's back up.
53:39
Now I remember him because I I did, I was an executive producer
53:43
for Imani Tumor. So Imani Tumor used to tell me a
53:46
lot of different stories about those teams before the Super
53:49
Bowl championship. He did all The Dirty work while
53:52
Shocky got to line up and go out for passes.
53:54
Cross was a great blocker and he caught some passes too.
53:57
He was a good, halfway decent athlete.
53:59
All right, All right. Howard Cross will be joining us.
54:02
So very interesting. Thank you again to all the fans.
54:05
We'll be back on Thursday. Yes, Jabba will be here on
54:08
Thursday. Better be I'll smack up silly.
54:11
I got a chance to meet him on Saturday.
54:12
So that was interesting both of us together.
54:15
It's like I knew him for years. It really is.
54:18
And he he I got to give a shout out to Jabba.
54:20
He was very kind to my friends, very cool to my friends and try
54:23
to pick on my size at which you're only four inches bigger
54:27
than me. Buddy.
54:27
Stop bragging about it. When I steal a base against you,
54:30
then you can you can start kissing my ass.
54:34
I love you anyways. Goodnight.
54:35
Farewell. It is the worldwide sports radio
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