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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 204 | Jaguars vs. Broncos Matchup Breakdown · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to teg VAM kind of honest sevens Here Brian section
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Speaker 1: John Oser with me today as we prepare for a
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Speaker 1: huge matchup with the Denver Broncos here in Week sixteen.
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Speaker 1: Big implications off of this win. The Denver Broncos in
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Speaker 1: the number one seed right now and the Jaguars on
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Speaker 1: that five game win streak, so we're.
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Speaker 2: Very excited for that.
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Speaker 1: Let's get into our big things, brought to you by
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Speaker 1: federal employees and retirees. Big thing Number one is mile High.
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Speaker 1: We're heading on the road to take on the Broncos
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Speaker 1: and it's a tough environment to play in. Leam Cohen
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Speaker 1: talked about it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good to win different ways. You know, you
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Speaker 3: learn about your team each week, and adversity is usually
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Speaker 3: how we learn. So we've been able to go through
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Speaker 3: some of that. This will definitely be the loudest environ
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Speaker 3: I mean we've been in thus far, so we've got
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Speaker 3: to prepare for that during the week.
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Speaker 1: RAN's going to be a big game, has big implications.
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Speaker 1: Liam talked about this team learning through adversity. We've certainly
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Speaker 1: seen that went on the Road got to win against
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers Monday night football against the Chiefs.
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Speaker 2: Can this be the next step in that?
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Speaker 4: I think so, And they will actually face adversity this week.
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Speaker 5: They haven't been a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 4: They've played so well on both sides of the ball
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Speaker 4: that they've eliminated that.
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Speaker 5: But that's not the way it goes at Mile High.
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Speaker 4: The first time the bus is pull in, you're going
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Speaker 4: to see five two and eighty right which is the
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Speaker 4: elevation above sea level, And they let you know that
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Speaker 4: right away. And in the fourth quarter, which is where
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Speaker 4: the Broncos have been so good this year in winning
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Speaker 4: twelve games and winning eleven in a row, you can
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Speaker 4: get tired. I mean the air is thin up there,
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Speaker 4: and you will face some adversity. But John, they've seen
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Speaker 4: it through the course of the season. This is a
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Speaker 4: good football team that understands how to get things done.
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Speaker 4: Actually making the play in the fourth quarter is the challenge.
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Speaker 4: But they've done it all season long, so there's no
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Speaker 4: reason to think. Despite the fact that they're at Mile High,
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Speaker 4: which is an incredible place to watch and play a
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Speaker 4: football game, I really like their opportunity.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, guess what Denver's good at home.
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Speaker 5: They're also good on the road.
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Speaker 6: It's tough to play in altitude, but I check the
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Speaker 6: records and they're not something an o there all time,
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Speaker 6: So you can go in there. The Jaguars are a
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Speaker 6: good team, and I do think the altitude altitude will
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Speaker 6: be a factor, and the things Brian talked about would
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Speaker 6: be a factor. But I think what you have to
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Speaker 6: remember about the Jaguars, they continue to be a good
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Speaker 6: team on paper. They continue to do things right. I
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Speaker 6: think people who think that this is Rocky going against
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Speaker 6: Apollo Creed are missing the whole point.
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Speaker 5: Oh They're missing it entirely.
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Speaker 6: The Jaguars are a good team who've won five games
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Speaker 6: in a row over the last five or six games.
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Speaker 6: They're as good as any team in football. That's the
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Speaker 6: kind of game I expect this to be.
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Speaker 4: Brian starting to rupt you these Drags and those Jags,
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Speaker 4: I mean, these jadge are not those Jags. And by
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Speaker 4: the way, to your point, the Daguars are four and
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Speaker 4: four all time at Mile High Stadium and power at
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Speaker 4: Mile High whatever you want to call it, and the
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Speaker 4: last couple of times they've gone out there, they have
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Speaker 4: played pretty hard well.
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Speaker 1: The chances are there for sure. Let's go to our
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Speaker 1: second big thing, which is pick your poison. When we
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Speaker 1: talk about going up against the Broncos, obviously you know
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Speaker 1: the defense, but on offense, bough Nicks hasn't playing really well,
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Speaker 1: including last week against the Packers, and we and Cohen
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Speaker 1: talked a little bit about whether you try to rush
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Speaker 1: him or you try to stay back and cover.
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Speaker 3: We watched it today, a bunch of clips of it
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Speaker 3: this morning as a team and how much in unison
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Speaker 3: that is and how much that does play a part,
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Speaker 3: you know, showed some clips of guys, you know, feeling
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Speaker 3: like they had something covered or may have had him
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Speaker 3: down or corralled, and then the play is not over.
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Speaker 3: It's definitely one of those things that's one of his
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Speaker 3: best traits is just going and being a football player
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Speaker 3: as a coach's son who understands the game.
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Speaker 1: John and I against the Packers, I think bonis kind
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Speaker 1: of finding himself fully in that game.
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Speaker 2: And what will that look like again this week.
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Speaker 1: We don't know, but now seeing it on film, that
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Speaker 1: has to be something they respect going in there.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he extends plays. The idea gets a quarterback like this,
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Speaker 6: you keep him in the pocket, you make him beat
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Speaker 6: you from the pocket. To me, it's a game. I
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Speaker 6: always use the you don't want your dbs pounding the
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Speaker 6: ground after they've missed a shot at an interception. And
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Speaker 6: what I mean by that is at times he's going
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Speaker 6: to throw you the ball. All quarterbacks do. When you're
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Speaker 6: playing a guy who makes plays, and he's specially onovx's
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Speaker 6: and o's, when you have your opportunities, that's how you
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Speaker 6: win big games like this. If then third quarter you're
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Speaker 6: walking up and say, oh, they should have had that
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Speaker 6: interception to the forty and be going in and they score,
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Speaker 6: that's where games like this turn take advantage of the
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Speaker 6: breaks that he gives you, right.
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Speaker 4: I talked to a friend in Denver yesterday who said
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Speaker 4: the difference in Bonnicks from last year to this year
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Speaker 4: was it he would extend plays last year, but he
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Speaker 4: didn't have the timing.
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Speaker 5: He didn't know when to get rid of the ball.
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Speaker 4: This year, he sees the field completely and he's running
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Speaker 4: to his right and didn't hesitate when he sees a
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Speaker 4: flash of orange coming back to throw the ball and
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Speaker 4: not try to extend the play and get.
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Speaker 5: To the easiest read of possibility. He is a really gifted.
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Speaker 4: Timing quarterback right now because he understands what Peyton Sean Payton,
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Speaker 4: the head coach of the Broncos, he's asking him to do,
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Speaker 4: and he gets rid of the ball, doesn't hold.
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Speaker 1: It all right, Let's do our final big thing, which
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Speaker 1: is winning one on one. We know that this Broncos
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Speaker 1: defense is, if not the best, one of the best
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, and a lot of that is due
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Speaker 1: to their pass rush.
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Speaker 2: They see so much success there.
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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen talked a little bit about how you try
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Speaker 1: to combat that.
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Speaker 3: You try to prepare for chips and relief for one
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Speaker 3: guy or so it's hard to do it at both
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Speaker 3: the ends and inside. It's just hard to go help
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Speaker 3: and especially where they do so much five man rush
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Speaker 3: that by alignment alone makes it difficult and challenging to
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Speaker 3: find where you're going to go and try to provide
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Speaker 3: a little relief and help for So they do it
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Speaker 3: both with their personnel and they have good scheme. I mean,
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Speaker 3: Benschosis one of the best out there right now and
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Speaker 3: got a lot of respect for the way that they've
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Speaker 3: put their players in the best positions to be successful.
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Speaker 3: And you know, winning one on one matchups is what
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Speaker 3: this league is all about, Brian.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to give help and chip when everybody on
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Speaker 1: the line is really talented, which is what you're dealing
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Speaker 1: with in Denver. So it's going to be on the
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Speaker 1: line to kind of do what they can individually to
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Speaker 1: protect everyone.
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Speaker 4: You're right, and Robert Hainsey was in the locker room
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Speaker 4: yesterday the Jaguars center talking about the preparation. They'll have
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Speaker 4: a meeting every day this week where they talk about,
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Speaker 4: you know, the protection schemes, and then they'll have one
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Speaker 4: with the blitzes and they'll go through everything and everyone
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Speaker 4: who's in that meeting, the quarterback, the tight ends, the
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Speaker 4: running backs, offensive line, they all have to be on
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Speaker 4: the same page. It's going to be on Hainsey in
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Speaker 4: the quarterback to communicate what they're seeing out there and
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Speaker 4: for everyone to just say be listening, right because you're
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Speaker 4: going to have to know exactly what you prepared for
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Speaker 4: all week long. If you use the word preparation once,
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Speaker 4: he used it ten times in the conversation with reporters
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Speaker 4: in the locker room. They are preparing for one of,
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Speaker 4: if not the best front force in the National Football
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Speaker 4: League and that's saying something because they saw the Rams
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Speaker 4: earlier this year.
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Speaker 5: John and those.
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Speaker 4: Guys are really good Seahawks the week before they are
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Speaker 4: as well. It's all about knowing what these guys like
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Speaker 4: to do and then communicating on the field in a
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Speaker 4: very loud environment.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously the Lion has to get guys blocked most
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Speaker 6: of the time. It's hard against the team like the
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Speaker 6: Broncos to always get him blocked. For the reasons that
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Speaker 6: Liam Cohen suggested when I was covering the Colts, Peyton
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Speaker 6: Manning when he would play the Ravens and that defense
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Speaker 6: with ray Lewis would talk after games about how mentally
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Speaker 6: exhausted he was. I think Trevor Lawrence will be mentally
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Speaker 6: exhausted after this game. It's a big game for him.
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Speaker 6: You have to read, you have to know when to
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Speaker 6: get rid of the ball. You have to be smart
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Speaker 6: back there. Then when you are smart, the receivers that
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Speaker 6: are coming along so well, Brenton Strange, Jacobe Myers, Parker Washington.
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Speaker 6: This is the game where they have to win and
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Speaker 6: Trevor has to make plays, just like on defense where
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Speaker 6: you have to catch the ball. Bench thonn to you
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Speaker 6: when the opportunities do present themselves. This is the game
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Speaker 6: where Trevor Lawrence has to make the plays at the
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Speaker 6: moments that frankly he's been doing the last two or
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Speaker 6: three weeks.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna take everybody absolutely on the road this week.
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Speaker 1: Stay with us here on jag Zamm. Coming up after
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Speaker 1: the break, we go behind the Enemy Lines with a
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Behind Enemy Lines, where we check in with
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Speaker 1: a media member of the Jaguars opponent team. We're heading
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Speaker 1: to Denver this week, so we're checking in with Cody Rourke,
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Speaker 1: obviously Denver Broncos beat reporter, host of Lockdown Broncos.
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Speaker 2: Cody, I love talking to you.
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Speaker 1: I love catching up with you, and it's always more
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Speaker 1: fun when your team is playing well. So I can
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Speaker 1: imagine you're having a lot of fun right now.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's nice to be able to cover
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Speaker 7: a team that's got a lot of excitement behind it.
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Speaker 8: And look, i'd say same thing for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Speaker 8: They're on the rise.
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Speaker 7: You know, Liam Coleman his first year, I think he's
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Speaker 7: done such a tremendous job with Trevor.
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Speaker 8: Lawrence and those guys.
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Speaker 7: I think they face him adversity early on, and then
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Speaker 7: now they're playing with a lot of rhythm and make
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Speaker 7: Sunday's game between these two teams very exciting.
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Speaker 8: Between two playoff contenders.
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Speaker 1: We're on our a little win streak five games. You
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Speaker 1: guys are on a big win streak eleven games. What
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Speaker 1: have you seen just in the terms of progression. Obviously
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Speaker 1: guys made the playoffs last year. But what Sean Payton's
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Speaker 1: been able to do and kind of similar to what
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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen's trying to do. Inserting that belief when not
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Speaker 1: a lot of people are talking about you, but having
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Speaker 1: that belief on the roster that they can compete and
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Speaker 1: you know, do something in the playoffs. Super Bowl bound.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's about instilling a culture that really
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Speaker 7: doesn't care too much about the outside noise. I would
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Speaker 7: say that's the one noticeable difference since Sean Payton has
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Speaker 7: come in. And look, it's taken a couple of years
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Speaker 7: from where he first came in twenty twenty three to
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Speaker 7: where he is now. That foundation has already kind of
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Speaker 7: been set with this team, and so even if people
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Speaker 7: overlook them, if people think that they're the underdogs, they
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Speaker 7: really don't care. They don't pay too much attention to that.
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Speaker 7: I think that they just focus week to week. And
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Speaker 7: as cliche as it may sound, I felt like in
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Speaker 7: other Broncos teams that I've covered, there was very much
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Speaker 7: a sense where teams will look behind them or they
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Speaker 7: look too far ahead, and then you lose out on
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Speaker 7: the present, and we've seen them slip because of that.
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Speaker 7: That has not been the case here with the Sean
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Speaker 7: Payton coach team here in twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 8: They are a resilient group of guys and they.
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Speaker 7: Never feel like even if their backs are against the
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Speaker 7: wall in the fourth quarter, they never feel like they're
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Speaker 7: down and out.
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Speaker 1: Taking on the Packers last week, I think probably one
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Speaker 1: of those games where people expected maybe the Packers to
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Speaker 1: come in and win, but getting down early, battling back,
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Speaker 1: and I think what was cool is similar to last
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Speaker 1: week we talked about Trevor Lawrence's best game. Bon Nix
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Speaker 1: had probably what I've seen in from the professional level,
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Speaker 1: his best game, and after a season where people are
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Speaker 1: kind of picking and saying the defense is everything and
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Speaker 1: the offense can't get it together. Bonick certainly showed them
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Speaker 1: last week.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, complimentary football it matters so much in today's NFL.
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Speaker 7: And look, I think when you look at the Broncos,
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Speaker 7: you look at the Jaguars, you see a lot of
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Speaker 7: complimentary football. Right The defense is taking care of business
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Speaker 7: given the offense the opportunities. Special teams are making plays,
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Speaker 7: whether it's in the return game, the kicking game.
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Speaker 8: I mean, that's what I think when I.
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Speaker 7: Watch these two teams, and certainly for Denver, they have
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Speaker 7: since coming out of the bye week, they kind of
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Speaker 7: have been playing a little bit more complimentary.
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Speaker 8: Where there's weeks.
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Speaker 7: Where they've had offensive issues, there's weeks where they've had
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Speaker 7: special teams issues, and the defense has kind of been
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Speaker 7: carrying the water. Will now coming out of the bye week,
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Speaker 7: the defenses has some up and down moments, but the
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Speaker 7: offense and special teams they're making big plays and the
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Speaker 7: defense is finding ways to make big plays and clutch
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Speaker 7: situations when it matters most. And look down twenty three
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Speaker 7: to fourteen last week against the Packers, patz or Tans
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Speaker 7: interception changed the entire game and allow bow Knicks and
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Speaker 7: the Broncos offense to go out there and score points
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Speaker 7: and make it a little bit closer, and then they
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Speaker 7: just kind of ran away with it from there. So
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Speaker 7: that's very much I think here with this Broncos team
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Speaker 7: is that they are now playing complimentary football, say at
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Speaker 7: the most important time, which is the month of December.
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Speaker 7: And honestly, this game kai feels a lot like a
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Speaker 7: potential playoff matchup between these two teams who very well
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Speaker 7: could end up seeing each other again very well.
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Speaker 1: May I'm looking at this defense first and third down,
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Speaker 1: red zone, you know, second inrrationally to the Jaguars. Is
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Speaker 1: there a weakness on the defense from your perspective or
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Speaker 1: is it just that's kind of what they hang their
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Speaker 1: hat on.
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Speaker 8: I mean, they're very aggressive. They love to blitz.
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Speaker 7: They love to send five or six guys and then
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Speaker 7: they'll drop back guys into coverage.
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Speaker 8: They mix up man in his.
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Speaker 7: Own coverage pretty effectively here under Vance Joseph's scheme. I'd say,
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Speaker 7: if there's any weakness that we have seen so far
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Speaker 7: coming out of the bye week, I think they've allowed.
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Speaker 8: Too many explosive plays.
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Speaker 7: There's been a lot of tight ends coming open, underneath
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Speaker 7: and over the top wide receivers making plays. Last week
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Speaker 7: against the Packers, the Broncos in the first quarter allowed
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Speaker 7: three explosive plays at twenty five plus yards in the
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Speaker 7: passing game against Trevor Lawrence. This offense that has a
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Speaker 7: multitude of playmakers, including former friends Tim Patrick who we
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Speaker 7: know and love here in Denver, Brian Thomas, and obviously
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Speaker 7: Jacoby Myers, has been a great addition for Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 7: and Liam Cohen in this situation. You can't allow that
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Speaker 7: to be the trend that continues here coming into this matchup.
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Speaker 1: Do you have some X factor players for me, maybe
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Speaker 1: one on either side of the ball that you feel
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Speaker 1: like need to have a good game if the Bronks
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Speaker 1: want to get a win.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, let's start off on the defensive side of the ball. Obviously,
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Speaker 7: the Broncos will be without Brandon Jones. He landed on
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Speaker 7: injured reserve, so PJ. Locke will fill in for him.
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Speaker 7: I think the rookie first round pick Jade Baron, who's
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Speaker 7: kind of got this hybrid role in the dime package
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Speaker 7: covering in the slot, has the capability of dropping back
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Speaker 7: and playing some safety He's going to be my ex
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Speaker 7: factor to keep an eye on here this week. He's
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Speaker 7: done tremendous especially when covering tight ends. They could deploy
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Speaker 7: him against this very good wide receiver corps that I
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Speaker 7: know the Jacksonville Jaguars certainly do have.
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Speaker 8: That's my defensive X factor, I'd say. On the offensive side.
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Speaker 7: Of the ball, we're gonna go with Troy Franklin here
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Speaker 7: once again, coming off of a big time performance against
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Speaker 7: the Green Bay Packers.
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Speaker 8: He's been the guy who's led the team.
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Speaker 7: In targets this season because Courtland Sutton has seen so
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Speaker 7: much attention. If Sutton wasn't going to see the attention
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Speaker 7: I think the Jaguars are going.
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Speaker 8: To give him. I say, hey, the X factor are
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Speaker 8: someone who needs to step up. Troy Franklin very good.
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Speaker 1: Well, we look forward to this matchup for sure. When
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Speaker 1: we've circled on the calendar, we'll see on Sunday, Denver
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Speaker 1: looking forward to a guy that was behind enemy lines.
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Speaker 1: With Cody Rourke, Denver Broncos beat reporter coming up after
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Speaker 1: the break, we'll go over what we think the headlines
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Speaker 2: Welcome you back to jag Zam.
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Speaker 1: We're going to do our best to predict the future
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Speaker 1: as we try to guess what we will be talking
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Speaker 1: about on Monday morning. Well, we'll be back on Tuesday
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Speaker 1: morning because we're coming back from Denver. But what will
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Speaker 1: everybody be talking about on Monday morning? After this matchup
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Speaker 1: with the Broncos.
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Speaker 5: I went with the air up there a couple of
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Speaker 5: different ways.
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Speaker 4: Obviously, look at it, it's fifty two hundred and eighty feet.
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Speaker 4: It's thin up there, but it's also rarefied air. John,
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Speaker 4: because you're playing the number one part of the seed
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Speaker 4: in the AFC.
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Speaker 6: Easy for you to say, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Not so much. He's talking about that thin air.
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Speaker 5: It's affecting me now.
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Speaker 4: So I think Trayvon Walker is going to have a
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Speaker 4: major impact.
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Speaker 5: He has looked better the last couple of.
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Speaker 4: Weeks, like he's finally gotten used to playing with the
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Speaker 4: brace on his left knee and that whatever contraption he's
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Speaker 4: wearing on his left wrist and is making plays. He's
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Speaker 4: looked good on the practice field this week. So my
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Speaker 4: guess is that he is going to be a major
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Speaker 4: factor in disrupting what bo Nicks likes to do. And
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Speaker 4: I think that the Jaguars win. I just I know
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Speaker 4: that they're a very good football team, and I know
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Speaker 4: they've won eleven in a row, and I know all
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Speaker 4: about the air, been up there enough to experience it.
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Speaker 4: I think that Trayvon Walker creates enough havoc and the
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Speaker 4: Jaguars defense takes care of things.
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Speaker 5: And then it'll be up to the quarterback. But I'm
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Speaker 5: going with the air up there.
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Speaker 6: Yeah. I experienced the air as well once like thirty
16:06
Speaker 6: years ago, going up for a run and I was
16:08
Speaker 6: in Boulder doing a story on BISSELLI when he was
16:11
Speaker 6: a rookie as a matter of fact, and the air
16:14
Speaker 6: hit me and I was crushing and then I realized
16:16
Speaker 6: I was just out of shape. So I don't really know,
16:20
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna need mine throwing up here. Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 6: onward Duval. I mean, And I guess I went with
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Speaker 6: this because I think it's going to be a case
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Speaker 6: where they win and you look back and say, yeah,
16:35
Speaker 6: they're good. I mean, it's I keep hitting this theme
16:39
Speaker 6: this week that when you talk to fans about it, it's, oh,
16:42
Speaker 6: you think they can win?
16:44
Speaker 5: Yeah.
16:45
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know if they'll win, but I
16:48
Speaker 6: think that if you put the Jaguars, if you put
16:52
Speaker 6: the Kansas City Chiefs uniforms on the Jaguars, everybody would
16:56
Speaker 6: be talking about this game is oh, this is a
16:57
Speaker 6: matchup of two powers. Oh, look at what beat the
17:01
Speaker 6: forty nine ers, beat the Panthers, beat the Chiefs, beat
17:04
Speaker 6: the Houston Texans. Already, everybody would look at this team
17:07
Speaker 6: as a legitimately good team. If they had any other
17:09
Speaker 6: uniform on, they sort of dismiss it because it's the Jaguars.
17:13
Speaker 6: This is a good team that can go out and
17:15
Speaker 6: beat this team. One teams won five, one team's won eleven,
17:19
Speaker 6: Neither is lost in November.
17:20
Speaker 4: What do you want? Listen, They're scoring thirty two point
17:23
Speaker 4: eight points per game over this winning stretch.
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Speaker 2: Kay.
17:25
Speaker 4: I think there's two things that John touched on. One
17:27
Speaker 4: is I don't think there's a lot of respect obviously
17:29
Speaker 4: out there. We've been talking about that. The other is
17:31
Speaker 4: I just don't think the fan base here has become
17:34
Speaker 4: accustomed to disappointment, because this franchise is disappointed on the football.
17:38
Speaker 5: Field in some big games.
17:40
Speaker 4: But again it goes back to these versus those that
17:42
Speaker 4: was those Jaguars, these Jaguars, Baselli, Gladstone, Cohen and now
17:47
Speaker 4: what we're getting from Lawrence.
17:52
Speaker 5: Scribe me at all if they go out there and win.
17:54
Speaker 6: And I put Jakobe Myers's picture up there for this reason,
17:57
Speaker 6: I think against this defense, when Trevor will have moments
18:04
Speaker 6: where he's under pressure, the reliability that he has on
18:08
Speaker 6: Jacoby and Brenton Strange, I think there are going to
18:11
Speaker 6: be big moments third and eight where he his trust
18:15
Speaker 6: in Jacoby, turns difficult situations into opportunities and all of
18:20
Speaker 6: a sudden, instead of hunting, you're on the Broncos forty five.
18:23
Speaker 6: That's what he's given this team. I think he's huge
18:26
Speaker 6: on Sunday.
18:26
Speaker 4: I also think, by the way that with the way
18:28
Speaker 4: that Bryan Thomas Juniors played in recent weeks, patser ten
18:31
Speaker 4: best corner of the league, right defensive Player of the
18:33
Speaker 4: Year candidate is going to have to pay a lot
18:35
Speaker 4: of attention at number seven, which should open some things.
18:37
Speaker 1: Up for number three, and I think if there is
18:40
Speaker 1: a spot, it might be some of the deep ball angles,
18:42
Speaker 1: just because they're dealing with some injuries on the back end,
18:44
Speaker 1: that might be where he could maybe make a little
18:47
Speaker 1: bit away with the with the defense that you're dealing
18:49
Speaker 1: with in Denver. So I went with Rocky Mountain High
18:51
Speaker 1: because I think this is going to be an opportunity.
18:55
Speaker 1: Both of these quarterbacks playing their best games last week,
18:58
Speaker 1: and I know this is a defensive line jump with
19:00
Speaker 1: these defenses are very good at what they do, but
19:03
Speaker 1: I think it'll be whichever quarterback can handle this pressure
19:06
Speaker 1: the best. And for me, this is something that I
19:08
Speaker 1: think could be repeated in the playoffs. This is a
19:10
Speaker 1: This is a game where I could see these two
19:12
Speaker 1: teams playing again. So for me, I'm seeing a close matchup.
19:15
Speaker 1: I hope the Jaguars pulled out, but as John is saying,
19:18
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's going to happen, but I just
19:20
Speaker 1: know it's going to be a good football game.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's a great point Nationally, Trevor was
19:28
Speaker 6: written off four or five weeks ago, if not two
19:31
Speaker 6: or three years. The Trevor Lawrence thing to me is
19:35
Speaker 6: very interesting this week. Everybody wrote him off, nobody's thinking
19:40
Speaker 6: about it now. He's a quarterback that goes into these games.
19:44
Speaker 6: He's got playoff experience, he's been here before. He's not
19:49
Speaker 6: a kid. This is not a wide eyed moment. He
19:51
Speaker 6: doesn't act wide eyed right now, coming out party, however
19:55
Speaker 6: you define it, you know, I think the new Trevor
19:59
Speaker 6: that we're all seeing can take some of the old
20:02
Speaker 6: experience that run in twenty two, everything he's been through.
20:07
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't think he's gonna be wide eyed
20:09
Speaker 6: at this moment. I guess is what I'm getting at.
20:10
Speaker 6: I think it's really important this weekend.
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Speaker 4: Really valuable because this is essentially a playoff game, with
20:15
Speaker 4: the way that the Texans are right on your heels
20:17
Speaker 4: and all the tiebreakers you need.
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Speaker 2: This one a lot of tiebreakers. We'll talk about some
20:21
Speaker 2: of them.
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Speaker 7: Now, you don't want to go for it.
20:45
Speaker 1: You do not want to go for it.
20:46
Speaker 8: They run a sweep the whole. He gets hated at that.
20:50
Speaker 8: Want to play.
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Speaker 7: Hold him, not to go for it.
21:01
Speaker 5: He now go ahead and suffocate even more. Don't get
21:05
Speaker 5: to another one.
21:06
Speaker 6: I'll get to a nerd on. I'll get to a
21:08
Speaker 6: nerd one.
21:10
Speaker 8: I'll get to a man. Get hot treamm up, hot
21:16
Speaker 8: tream up.
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Speaker 5: It's like, what trouble run that?
21:19
Speaker 6: No, like, we can't be put on offense got harder
21:23
Speaker 6: come for closing to defense.
21:24
Speaker 5: He got to play him and running.
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Speaker 2: Back he took him.
21:28
Speaker 1: Good announce from Ravon Walker there and he tried to
21:30
Speaker 1: warn him on fourth thousands told enough to do it,
21:33
Speaker 1: and they did it anyway, and they lost about six yards.
21:36
Speaker 1: I think trying to go fourth one. But let's talk
21:38
Speaker 1: a little bit more about this Denver game. We talked
21:40
Speaker 1: a little bit about the implications if the Jaguars were
21:42
Speaker 1: to get a win that brings in the second seed
21:44
Speaker 1: into play, and then also I believe if the Colts
21:47
Speaker 1: or the Texans lose, that confirms that guarantees them a
21:51
Speaker 1: playoff spot.
21:52
Speaker 2: So we're looking ahead.
21:54
Speaker 1: We're not trying to do too much math because I'll
21:55
Speaker 1: get myself confused.
21:57
Speaker 2: I think winning is good John. I think that's what
21:59
Speaker 2: we do well.
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Speaker 6: Right when and either the Colts or Texans losing and
22:06
Speaker 6: you're in right and that's the first step. But the
22:09
Speaker 6: number one seed thing, it does matter. All anybody's talked
22:14
Speaker 6: about the last four or five weeks is how wide
22:16
Speaker 6: open the AFC is, but it really is for all
22:19
Speaker 6: these teams because there's no big bad wolf anymore. Like
22:23
Speaker 6: in since ninety nine, every Jaguars playoff appearance has ended
22:28
Speaker 6: against the big bad Wolf New England, New England, New
22:30
Speaker 6: England and Kansas City. All those teams at the time
22:32
Speaker 6: were the team you couldn't beat, and playoff experience does
22:36
Speaker 6: matter in that situation. Anybody who was at any of
22:38
Speaker 6: those games, you were at all four of them, you
22:40
Speaker 6: probably felt that other team knows it's going to win.
22:43
Speaker 6: It's been here before, nobody's really been here before and
22:46
Speaker 6: made it. So the point is getting those seedings, getting
22:51
Speaker 6: involved in this. It's going to be a free for all.
22:54
Speaker 6: So get yourself in position the best position you can.
22:57
Speaker 4: I know everyone's talking about the possibility of number one,
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Speaker 4: and considering where this team was last year, it's very
23:02
Speaker 4: exciting to even think about that.
23:04
Speaker 5: I'm more focused on what it.
23:05
Speaker 4: Takes to get number three locked up, right, that means
23:08
Speaker 4: a home playoff game because of the division title. And
23:11
Speaker 4: with the Texans, they've won six in a row. They
23:14
Speaker 4: are breathing down this team's next. They have the Raiders
23:16
Speaker 4: at home this week. The Raiders, right guaranteed w for
23:20
Speaker 4: the Texans, and it will probably be an impressive win
23:23
Speaker 4: because the Raiders were just awful last week in Philadelphia.
23:26
Speaker 4: All right, Well the heat's on now, right, and so
23:29
Speaker 4: let's say you go and beat Denver in Denver.
23:31
Speaker 5: Well, the next week, you still.
23:32
Speaker 4: Have to go and beat the Colts a second time
23:35
Speaker 4: in a couple of weeks.
23:36
Speaker 5: And to be hard, yeah, it won't be easy.
23:38
Speaker 4: To do, even with forty four year old Philip Rivers
23:42
Speaker 4: putting the cane aside. Again, love Rivers, but come on, right,
23:46
Speaker 4: So you have two really challenging games in a row
23:49
Speaker 4: here before you get to the Titans at the end
23:51
Speaker 4: of the season. It's not just one week, it's two.
23:54
Speaker 4: And it's not the number one seed. It's the number
23:56
Speaker 4: three that matters for this football team right.
23:58
Speaker 1: Now, meaningful game in December and soon January. So a
24:02
Speaker 1: lot of good stuff and we're excited for it. We'll
24:05
Speaker 1: be back on Jagsam on Tuesdays. We get back late
24:07
Speaker 1: from Denver, but enjoy this matchup on Sunday. It's gonna
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Speaker 1: be a fun one. We'll talk to you next week.