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Episode 26: Sam Witwer - The Genius Behind Darth Maul's Voice · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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Hello there, it's time for most things Kenobi.
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I prefer all things Kenobi, but I suppose that's not the Jedi
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way as long as it's not all things Anakin.
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Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of most things Kenobi.
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A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi and all things Star Wars.
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I'm your host Leanne and I'm your host Lauren.
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And this week, we are talking about the genius and the talent
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that is Sam Witwer. Done to the voice of Darth Maul,
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amongst other things. He's also an on-screen actor.
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He does other voice acting other Star Wars characters.
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He doesn't. He's done it all and he does it.
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Well, honestly, he's an amazing Island.
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So talented really amazing, kind of blew my mind.
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Honestly, when, when I was first watching Clone Wars, it's crazy.
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When you look at Sam Witwer and then you hear him talk, he's
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very eloquent, he's well-versed in Star Wars stuff.
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I mean he is a nerd like the rest of us.
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He is here. He is into it which is great
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because That comes across in how he portrays his character and
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the amount of passion he puts into it.
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But then you hear him transform his voice.
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Yeah into Darth Maul and he put so much into it.
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It's like it's like heavy metal like front man, who sing.
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It's like how do they not lose their voice?
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Like, how does that even happen? You know, it's so true.
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It's so physical and if you ever have seen footage of him doing
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the recording session, so you can see he's very like
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Physically moving his body to get some of the passion
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especially the famous Kenobi scream?
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Yes. My favorite a lot of people's
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favorites, right? Yeah, exactly.
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He actually did it. No, I think it was on not.
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I was going to say Star Wars day but not Star Wars Day the Disney
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plus day. Oh dear.
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Yes, yes. Because everyone was waiting for
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the Kenobi stuff to drop so he did like a recreation of the
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that see which which thank you. We're Or for understanding us
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enough to go ahead and just kind of like troll us all with that
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life. I appreciate that.
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Yeah. Oh my God, he's got a, he's got,
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such a wicked sense of humor. I love it.
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I truly appreciate that. Yeah, and he's damn intelligent.
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He's very intelligent. Yeah, he gets it and he's so
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versed in Star Wars lore. It's kind of mind-blowing.
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Yes. Like, it's not even just that he
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knows it, he Is it at a whole different level than most
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people? It's pretty incredible.
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Granted, he's had the opportunity to pick both Dave,
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filoni and George. Lucas's brain on the subject.
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Oh my goodness. Yeah.
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Like he would win a Star Wars trivia night.
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No. But, speaking of which, can we
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just? Can we give you props right now?
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For your first Star Wars, Instagram hosted, trivia, that
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night that you did, the other night.
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It was amazing and fun. Thanks, I'm glad it was fun.
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It was the Little bit long. That's for sure.
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I think next time, I'll probably ask less questions but well, it
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you ask some questions that I had no idea and I learned a
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little bit myself. Why don't?
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I don't claim to know everything but that proved it be either.
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I tried to like, make sure the questions were something that I
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at least had a general idea of the answer before.
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I even like officially wrote the question down, but I was really
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proud of myself for stumping. Most of everybody.
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On that last question. Yeah, that last question was
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impressive. And the amount of knowledge that
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our listeners have the listeners that showed up to this.
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Thank you. My guy, the way you're all
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amazing and hilarious. The chat was lit.
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I loved it. Oh my God, it was so much fun.
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I was laughing my ass off. It was a great time.
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Everybody's so smart and witty and light friendly to everyone
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was just this kind to each other.
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It was really really refreshing. But Sam Witwer would have beat
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all of us. Oh, he would have kicked our
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ass. Yeah.
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Yeah he would have come in with hyphens and punctuation marks
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and things. You know the things we were
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talking with you were asking for proper spelling and punctuation
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for some of those about Sam Witwer would have shown up with
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all the appropriate hyphens. The and, like, in character, for
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all of the, I didn't think of that, but that's great.
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Yes, my God. Hey Sam.
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Can we get you on a trivia night, huh?
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Oh my God, come co-host, trivia night.
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That would be fun. We're from the same area.
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We're from the same part of true.
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You As was suburbs. So yes, come on home.
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You're like in the land of Lucas and Sam Witwer.
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Oh yeah, because George Lucas lives in Chicago.
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You're right. Got a place in Chicago.
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Yeah, yeah. I think his wife is kind of like
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an executive out here. So, they have a very fancy condo
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downtown. She on Michigan Avenue.
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Yeah, we can't talk about Sam Witwer.
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Without talking about Darth Maul.
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The two are forever linked. Yes synonymous.
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Well I was watching Clone Wars, you know, obsessively binge
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watching it and it was gonna be all right?
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And then dearth ball shows up in the minute he started.
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Speaking, my attention just went funnel focus on it because
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nobody else was performing their characters that way it was like
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coming out of the person's soul performing as Darth Maul and I
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had no idea who Sam Witwer was. So I immediately started looking
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him up just to see like who is producing.
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This voice, it's insane. And in fact for those who don't
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know, we always do this for our listeners.
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Who aren't in the know hmm. Sam Witwer is currently 44 years
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of age as of the time of this recording and he's a cutie.
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He's a handsome handsome man. Yeah.
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And the voice on him. It's naturally deep.
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And kind of, you know, it's there's some gut to it.
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Like the he has a lot of volume but the way he evokes like the
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pain, the torment. Mmm.
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Darkness of the character of Darth Maul.
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It's just come. So flawlessly it.
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I'm blown away. Every time I ever see a clip of
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him doing Darth Maul in like the recording studio.
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It's amazing. Look it up.
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If you haven't seen him actually do it.
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It's really phenomenal acting. I wonder if he's like, very
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physically exhausted after performing, have to believe.
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So it just seems like be draining and I'm sure they don't
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get it in one, take, not, because he's not amazing.
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But because there's different variances, they probably want to
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I don't claim to know anything, but I would assume there's more
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than one take on any given day. Right?
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Sure. So you have to do it over and
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over and over into a VOC that and that goes for any actor or
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actress really in a crying scene or a really emotional scene or a
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highly highly, you know, intense scene where you have to just
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keep doing it over and over and over.
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And I don't know how they do it. I missed a physical actors, any
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of them. I don't know how they do it.
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It's probably just go home and pass out.
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Totally. I would.
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Yeah, I don't do it and I just go Home and pass out after I
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work. I'm a week.
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Our work is just regular typing away sitting at the desk
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computer works. So now add screaming Kenobi at
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the top of. Yeah I can't imagine opening so
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good, so classic, he's literally gone.
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And Rewritten that character, basically, they took Ray Park in
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Han Solo or solo, a Star Wars story.
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His body, his face and put Sam Witwer as voice over it.
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Yeah, right. Yeah.
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Which they did in Phantom Menace.
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Re-park, wasn't the voice in Phantom Menace, so he's just,
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he's just got that very specific physical.
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He does and he's really, really good at wielding a lightsaber
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like my gosh. Yeah, he like invented the staff
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fighting style is, incredible is amazing.
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And then you did the the mocap for it and season says, see
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isn't 7 also for Clone Wars. That's right, I forgot.
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They did that. You're right.
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Yeah, which was pretty bad. So amazing.
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Yeah, actually, so kudos to Ray Park for like actually bringing
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the physicality of Darth Maul originally right though?
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I will say I would not mind seeing a live action version of
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Mall starring Sam Witwer. He could, he could do it if it's
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the same thing. As Matt Lanter.
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Being a live-action Anakin it would be pretty fucking great to
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see like live-action versions of Clone Wars Episodes.
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Yeah, actually eckstine as a Sokka.
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It. Yes, bring it.
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She could do it, shut up and take my money.
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So Sam Witwer doesn't just voice Mall in Clone Wars.
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The first time he was on Clone Wars was in the mortise Arc,
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which most people, I think know this by now, but he played the
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son here was so good. Is that?
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Yes. And not immediately recognized a
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sandwich where if you listen to it, I mean, he changes his
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voice. I mean that's The thing about
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voice actors is, I don't know how they do it.
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I mean that when he said is his own voice.
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Yeah. And then he but I didn't I
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didn't immediately put it to like Sam.
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Hey neither, I had watched it got to the part with mall and
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then looked up the actor and I was like wait a minute.
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I've already seen him in Clone Wars.
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What the hell? Yeah actually the first time I
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watched the mortise Arc I thought it was Matt Lanter doing
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both parts oh because their voices.
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So similar at the time, do have very deep voices, both of them
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because I was like, maybe they're trying to make like a
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mirror of Anakin's so they're having lanter.
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Do like a darker version but then I found it wasn't.
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It was Sam Witwer and I was just like my mind is just blown.
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It is exploding inside my brain. He's also the voice of if anyone
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is familiar with the video games, he is Star Killer which
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is The Apprentice of Darth Vader.
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Yeah in the Years following Revenge of the Sith as I recall.
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Hmm. And his his the character will
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Galen Marek also known as Star Killer is actually modeled after
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Sam Witwer physically. Yeah, because he well he said
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that his friend I think it was like a friend of his was working
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on the project texted him and said could you send us a head
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shot because I'm working on this thing for Star Wars and like you
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already look like the character. Hmm and he said something about
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like Darth Vader's apprentice and and then Wentworth was like,
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excuse me, Darth Vader, has it apprentice and so he wanted ah,
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yeah. He's in over his head shot and
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everybody could already see him as the character because he
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already looked like the character at the time.
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So then they just motion captured him.
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And it's pretty awesome. I've always wanted to get into
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the, is it for Shannon force, unleashed the force unleashed.
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Yes. Yeah.
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Their novels too. Aren't they?
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They were novelized. I think, I think they turned
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them into books. Books.
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If they unless they started his books and became games but I
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thought they were the game's first.
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He also does other things besides acting.
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He has a new album out an album. I don't know.
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I did not know this. Yeah.
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His whole band called the crash tones and they just released a
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full album recently. Its kind of, I love the art that
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he uses for all of his craft shown stuff.
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It's so like it's got like a tone of 80s.
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But also like 1950s sci-fi, it's so great.
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I love the aesthetic. I see it.
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I like it. Mmm.
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I'm very excited to listen to it and see and it makes sense
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because he's so good with his voice.
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And he is such a nice tone that. It's no surprise that he would
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be like, oh great singers. Well, so excited to check that
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out. They have some other.
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I think they might have an older album too.
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But this one is new and then he also has a book, a Dungeons &
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Dragons book that he did with his brother.
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I love that. Yeah, it's like a collection of
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art. See Dungeons and Dragons art and
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Arcana Arjun Arcana. I don't know how to say it hot.
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How interesting I love this though.
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Cool. It's like a Visual History.
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Like a an art book kind of the history of Dungeons and Dragons
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which totally makes sense. He is so of that era.
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He really is though. It's so classic turns out he
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also voices in the Star Wars squadrons video game which is
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actually That I really wanted to try.
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But I'm terrible at like, flight in Flight gaming, first person
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shooters and any kind of flying game too much.
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For my brain, you might I'm 38 and it's too much give me a good
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old roleplay game and let me explore my Countryside on my own
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pace. Can't do these things that
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require eyesight. But you work by candlelight.
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I inscribe all of my stories into stone, that's why we're
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finish up. We send messages to each other
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by a carrier pigeon. I love it.
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I actually think he does, like background voices for almost all
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Star Wars stuff. I know he did one every sequel
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Trilogy episode. Did background voices.
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He did Stormtrooper voices, I think in Rogue one.
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So yeah. He's on the roster I guess for,
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like all three. I love it.
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Well, it makes sense because he's fantastic.
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Yeah, I would love though one day.
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Please give him a live action role in Star Wars like in Star
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Wars. Yes.
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Yeah. I am waiting for that day
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because it would be so good because he's super good in life.
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Actually to like, I love to show Being Human.
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I was Just going to ask you about that because you told me
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about it and I watched a couple scenes and I'm like, oh God it's
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Saucy, you have not signed. Yeah, you not mind a lot of
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blood because there's a lot of blood because he's a vampire,
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which is just its own, its own thing altogether.
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But the premise of the show is that a ghost, a werewolf and a
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vampire share a house in Canada. Oh, my God.
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Tada, what can I love that? It's in Canada?
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Well, I know is filmed there, maybe it doesn't take place
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there. I think it's maybe it's Boston,
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but I'm for sure, no, no. I want them to be in Canada.
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It gives a whole, a peaceful Edge to the fact that it's a
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ghost, a werewolf and a vampire, but they're all very friendly.
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I we love Canada here, I love my God.
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Yeah, I spent half of my life in Canada well because whenever I
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can conveniently located for You I am currently located.
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Yes, when I lived in La, people thought I was from Canada
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because I haven't been questioned your voice.
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Yeah you know what's funny is it that just reminded me that every
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single place I've ever worked throughout my career has been
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attached to Canada by one of its borders literally and I would
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say we're back to protect privacy and what have you but
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yeah every single one of the places.
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So now everybody's brains are running like new Which states
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has she been to you have been to, I Believe been very kind.
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Very conveniently located to Canada and I've always taken
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advantage of that so that's nice.
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I've always wanted to go there. Never saw any vampire Whitworth,
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unfortunately. Yeah, you really missed out.
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Then girl. Had missed the cabin, are they
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in? I need to go there now.
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They're like in a, like a historic like row house.
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That makes sense. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to
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take place in Boston, but either way the, the show is super
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entertaining. It's a remake of a British show.
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I've not see the British show. I've only I've seen parts of it,
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but I did watch all of the American version because Sam
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Witwer is in it, and he's great, it's very wampie.
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There's a lot of like brutality and it's not for everybody, but
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yeah, it was entertaining. Well, one of my best friends
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loved the show Riverdale and Sam Witwer is a recurring character
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on Riverdale, which I have never seen any of those episodes.
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But when we were at Comic-Con my best friend, got to go meet the
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cast of Riverdale, really but Sam was not there.
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It's too bad. I know because we were excited
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thinking, maybe Darth Maul would be at a panel, but yeah, no, but
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he also starred on Riverdale, which is a very popular
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television series seen any of Riverdale, but I've heard good
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things. Do you know that he also voices
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husai on in the Star Wars resistance television series,
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which I pay, it is what it is. But I had no desire to watch
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that one. No offense, no tried the shading
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and animation isn't my style. Well, I tried it.
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I gave it a good life. Like good try and just didn't
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grab me. Yeah, I think it's honestly,
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it's for younger generation. Maybe, I don't sweat it.
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Okay. Well, I passed it by not because
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I'm, I mean, we don't have to consume every trooping.
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Listen, I can't you at this point, I can't keep up with two
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things Star Wars and Marvel, it's out of my control at this
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point. It used to be within my control
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of being like, well up on everything and there's just too
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much and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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There's For everybody out there in Marvel and Star Wars.
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But it's too much for one person to try and thank God.
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There's multiple podcast in multiple media Outlets out there
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who's covering it because otherwise I'd be lost.
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Well it's if it's a full-time job to even like follow even on
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a small remote level the amount of content coming out it's
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probably too much content so yeah I can't keep up with it
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either and honestly I'm a little annoyed because it's like
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they're not even staggering properly, it's like stuff.
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Rarely ends before, the next thing comes in and it's just
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like a constant Deluge of content which is honestly making
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it harder to absorb and appreciate what already exists.
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So I'm okay with stuff slowing down a bit but maybe that just
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probably makes me sound like an old geezer.
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No, not at all. I don't think so.
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I mean, we originally original trilogy, people didn't get
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anything for like, what 30 years?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Forever. Now it's like every six months
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something new is coming out, Mandalorian is already on season
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3 and we haven't even gotten any of the other stuff coming out.
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It's like book a Boba Fett. I like Boba Fett when we didn't
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know anything about him, it was spookier.
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Now we're going to get a hold of this fucking true.
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So it's true. I'm like okay.
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With some stuff not having answers to the questions,
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sometimes it's fun to just have it be a mystery.
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I'm going to admit something publicly for the first time.
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Are you sure? You want to do this?
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Like I'm ready. I think I'm ready.
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I'm here to catch. Whatever it is.
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You're ready to throw? Okay, listeners, don't hate me.
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Will you can hate me? I can't control you.
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I have never liked Boba Fett. I don't care.
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I don't care. I have never cared.
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That's how I feel about Django. I just don't care.
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Got his head chopped off. Well well okay I mean that's
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sad. Oh whatever it has literally
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nothing to do with the actor, the actor is awesome.
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Oh yeah, no this is this, this is complete separation, it's
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really more like character. Like I just liked Boba standing
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in the background, being a mystery, it Empire Strikes Back,
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he shows up and it's like, who the fuck is that?
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Who is this guy? Yeah, he's got a really
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embarrassing, death and Return of the Jedi.
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But well, let's talk about Turn of the Jedi because Sam Witwer.
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Thanks, it's genius. And I agree with Sam Witwer.
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Yeah. His explanation of it is just
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like fucking mind-blowing. He really gets Luke Luke.
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Well, I don't know if it's still since now.
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There's all sorts of new characters, but he is originally
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said that Luke was his favorite character.
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Oh, Sam. I know, right?
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Me too. But for real, like he he just
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gets it. I mean, have you ever Have you
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ever heard him talk about Return of the Jedi?
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Yeah there's a YouTube video that I've seen.
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It's actually I think maybe like a radio interview or like a
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podcast interview but also shares and like a radio
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interview. Yeah, it's so good work because
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like, you know, everyone should talk to the Ewoks and I'm here
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to admit, I think the Ewoks are fucking annoying, but I
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understand why they're important.
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Yes, right. And so to Sam Witwer, but just
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just just to see if my best friend is out there by mail best
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friend. If he's listening, he literally
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just lost his mind at you, saying, you happy that he walks,
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he loves the Ewoks. Forgive me there?
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No. Hi look.
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He's they are actually, they really are forgive me my friend,
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but yes, like it goes on too long, but I understand why
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they're important and it's the whole element of nature versus
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technology and like, Troll compassion versus sterile
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mechanical technology. That's going to come in,
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overrun. You still need the soul, right?
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And so is the representation, the Ewok has a representation of
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Mother Earth and the soul. And in fact, it's a theme we see
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repeated in a lot of Dave filoni.
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He's works. And a lot of the Star Wars stuff
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that we see with, you know, filoni but kind of behind it.
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Is this overarching theme of the Little guy wins even with less
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technology less skill. But it's because they have the
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heart and the soul, and they're defending something they love
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and, and they have the Jedi helping them.
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And it's a thing you see repeated in Star Wars.
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Yeah. Quite a bit in the Clone Wars
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but it originates, I think with the Ewoks and Luke is there and
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Sam Witwer goes on to describe that Luke is there to show like,
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hey hon chill, we don't need to use Force, give him, give them
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your gun, mmm, they're not going to cook us over the Over the
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fire, you know, and like they're, you know, Leia had
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compassion for them and it's, I think Sam compared it to like
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Yoda. It's the thing you're not
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expecting. Yeah, teaches you, the lesson
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like you're expecting this Grandmaster, you know, giant
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powerful Jedi, but really, it comes in pocket-sized Yoda, you
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know. And so it's kind of the same
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thing with the ER, yeah. Because we were was saying like,
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a lot of people are like, why is Luke even on Endor?
23:13
Yeah, that's what he was bringing up.
23:15
He could just like bypassing go, right?
23:17
To his confrontation, with the emperor.
23:19
And like, nowadays, they would probably do that with the
23:21
character but back in the 70s and the early 80s when they were
23:25
making these movies, like, George Lucas was holding firm to
23:29
his mythology. The original mythology that that
23:32
Star Wars was based on. And so, Luke goes to end or this
23:37
is all Sam went worse theory. Yes.
23:39
That were talking about the satin mine but I completely
23:42
agree with this. So do I look goes to end or to
23:46
be that bridge, right? Of like, showing that he did
23:49
learn a lesson in Empire, Strikes Back from Yoda and he's
23:52
in passing that on to Han and the whole point like I love what
23:57
were we saying about the scene in The Hut?
23:59
When the, the Ewoks are kind of talking amongst themselves and
24:03
Leia says, you know, what's going on, I don't know.
24:06
And then they take a quick cook to Luke, he knows what's going
24:10
on. Like he knows what they're
24:12
saying, he knows what they're talking about and he's like my
24:14
work here is done. Hmm, this is why I was here.
24:17
Now because like he even says, I shouldn't have come.
24:19
I endangered the mission. Yeah.
24:21
You know earlier in the movie and then he realized.
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Right? This is why I was here.
24:24
Okay? Yeah, yeah.
24:26
And it like ties the ending together.
24:28
It's like ties those points together and I think that was a
24:31
really beautiful observation by Sam that like yes, it's like
24:36
kind of like get it but he verbalizes stuff so well.
24:39
Yes he really does. He's he really knows his stuff.
24:44
Yeah. And it shows in the way.
24:47
He very eloquently describes, what I think we all get with
24:52
Star Wars, but he it's the same thing as listening to Dave
24:55
filoni. Speak about it.
24:57
You know, these people that really digest the Star Wars and
25:00
then present it in a, in a way that's like, yeah, I knew that.
25:03
But they, they say, it's so well.
25:06
Mmm and Sam weren't was one of them.
25:08
He loves Star Wars. Yeah, he loves it.
25:11
He could teach a master class, honestly, really could.
25:14
And in fact, I would be, I would sit up front, I never sit up
25:16
front. I would sit up front for that
25:18
class. I never sit up for a neither and
25:20
I would seriously be the two in the back like, snickering.
25:23
All the time. This is boring.
25:26
I definitely like to hide in the back of the classroom, even in
25:29
like stuff. I like, I don't want to be up
25:31
front, but I would for that and like we were for Clone Wars
25:34
panel. Yes.
25:36
We weren't? Oh man, I wish she was at that,
25:38
that have been better. I know I did see him at Star
25:42
Wars celebration the next year. Who did yes.
25:45
Yeah, and I was very Lois. I was like, walking through the
25:50
center of the kind of Arena where everything is and they
25:53
have like this little booth that's only for interviewers and
25:57
interviewees and all of a sudden like screens come to life and it
26:00
was Matt Lanter and Sam Witwer being interviewed by whoever the
26:05
interviewer were and they were just close to right there in
26:08
front of me. I could have reached out and
26:10
touched them, which of course it's creepy.
26:11
I would not have done that but I was of, who's sorry?
26:17
No, I wouldn't have I was literally two feet from Matt
26:20
Lanter and I hid behind a stand because I was like, well I don't
26:23
know, what should I go say hi. I don't want to add these push.
26:26
He's pushing his baby carriage. I don't want to be, I know I'm
26:29
so shy. I saw Ashley x times so many
26:32
times at Comic Con because I went to all our panels about
26:35
business because I was starting my own business at the time.
26:38
And I was like taking spooky creepy selfies being like, Oh my
26:42
god, look who's like a fan and she even said, in one of my
26:46
posts. Commented next time.
26:48
Come say hi. And it's like, I'm just too shy.
26:50
Like, I don't want to just walk up to somebody assuming that
26:54
like, celebrities are celebrities, but that doesn't
26:56
mean they're public property, you know.
26:58
I don't understand that there. I mean, especially when they're
27:00
pushing their newborn, yeah, in a stroller, which, by the way,
27:05
Kudos, Matt Lanter that you were able to push a stroller through
27:09
that massive area of hordes of people.
27:12
Was that cause I mean, you couldn't even breathe.
27:15
No, but here, he Comes pushing his, you know, kid in a
27:18
stroller. Just have my little family and I
27:21
was just like, oh my God, there is, I just didn't want to
27:24
interrupt him. I didn't want to be that person
27:25
and yeah, there's nothing bad about.
27:28
I have spoken to a celebrity before but it took me two hours
27:31
to work up. The courage to go do it.
27:32
Yeah, I did too. I was working in LA and Kiefer.
27:36
Sutherland came through the door into our studio and I just I was
27:41
just like bull like I lost all control over my face and it was
27:46
my job to do. Show him to the studio recording
27:48
studio and then, I was supposed to go get him coffee later, and
27:51
I was just like, I was a fucking mess.
27:54
Was that coffin Runner? Yeah, my job, I love that.
27:58
I worked at a post production company, and if you've ever seen
28:01
Devil Wears Prada, that was my life.
28:04
Yes, I was the Gopher, it sucked.
28:07
His German Shepherd, came up to me and I at the time was
28:10
terrified of dogs, especially ones that are still as a human
28:13
being and who's like, he Good to me.
28:17
He's like, be careful. He's a killer and I was like
28:19
really, I'm kind of scared. Yeah.
28:21
And he's like oh no, he's really sweet.
28:24
It's like is there a German Shepherd gonna beat me to death
28:28
right now? That is so cute though.
28:31
Yeah, it was a fun experience. But yeah if I that's why I like
28:35
walking around Collins and stuff, it's like I'm too afraid
28:38
to say hello to people. I'm so shy.
28:43
Sorry for the super crazy side tangent there.
28:48
Shall we pull things back to Sam Witwer?
28:52
They're probably not but maybe and if you and if you're
28:57
somewhere in Canada with a ghost and a werewolf, I'll meet you
29:01
there too. Yeah, they just had a reunions
29:04
for Being Human not too long ago.
29:06
Those awesome. Also, he's in Battlestar
29:08
Galactica. Oh, he's crashing this for
29:12
anybody. Who who watched that show?
29:15
It's a trip down memory lane. And now it's like sure is but
29:19
super old, I don't want one. Oh my God.
29:21
I love that show. That's a whole other episode.
29:24
Yes, could be an asshole. Its own podcast.
29:27
Uh, has we love you Sam? Yeah, Sam is amazing.
29:32
If you're not familiar with this work, definitely get into it.
29:34
I know he's in Supergirl right, he's not.
29:37
Oh yes sir, he's currently maybe he's also got a, he is in days
29:43
gone that other video. Game is said not a Star Wars
29:46
video game but I've not played it but I am familiar with it.
29:49
Yeah, people love it, gets rave reviews all the time.
29:54
Yeah, I just feel like I have so much respect for his huge
29:58
variety of interests and talents and like, basically, just going
30:02
after anything, that's interesting to him.
30:04
He's also really big into pit bull rescue.
30:06
And just say I'm rescue in general.
30:08
Yeah, he's a good person. He's a good human.
30:11
Yeah. Cool dude and a damn damn
30:14
talented one. Yeah, yeah.
30:17
He's got a good Soul so I say that like I know him, I don't
30:20
know that, but what seems to be the facts that we have?
30:24
Yeah, I wouldn't turn him away for dinner.
30:32
He has a seat at my table any day.
30:42
Turning this over to our wonderful listeners are question
30:45
to you. This week, is besides Darth
30:47
Maul? What is your favorite Sam Witwer
30:50
role? Do you have one?
30:52
Have we introduced you to one today letting you know all of
30:55
his various? I mean he's a talented dude.
30:57
So let's give credit where credit is due.
30:59
Definitely Aiden from being human hands down.
31:02
Yeah, yeah. I'm going with Starkiller.
31:05
I I love the character of Starkiller the I need to get
31:07
into Starkiller. I'm very excited.
31:09
I've always loved the art and everything and I, yeah, that's
31:11
going to be on my to-do list to like do it, get into Starkiller
31:15
stuff. I want the whole story is really
31:17
great so that they might love everything I've seen of it so
31:20
far. Absolutely, yeah, it's good.
31:22
It's real good. So, next week, we are going to
31:26
have a conversation about a very special creature from Star Wars,
31:32
very special, very, very The Court Jester of Star Wars
31:38
creatures. We're gonna talk about the one
31:42
and only salacious be Crumb from Jabba's Palace.
31:46
Everyone's favorite monkey lizard?
31:49
Everyone's favorite monkey lizard.
31:54
Now, you may be asking yourself, could you fill a whole episode
31:58
about this animal? We can we, he has a backstory
32:02
and we're going to bring it to light and we're going to give
32:05
This be crumb, the the the honor he deserves last week on the
32:11
show Leann and I discussed Sith Obi-Wan.
32:13
And what if scenarios that might push him towards the dark side?
32:18
We asked our listeners. What their thoughts on the
32:20
subject were, and we got a really fun variety of responses.
32:23
MH on YouTube said, thank you so much for doing this episode.
32:27
Dark Obi-Wan is one of my favorite a use as well.
32:30
I will be really, really angry if they do a literal /re.
32:35
Will duel between Vader and Obi-Wan in the show because it
32:38
would detract an unimaginable amount of significance from The
32:42
Duel in A New Hope. I kind of agree with you on
32:45
that, although I will say Star Wars has a history of
32:48
undermining their own content. So I wouldn't be surprised if
32:51
they did do this also Kenobi wolf.
32:54
On Instagram said, I think the closest Obi-Wan Kenobi could
32:57
have realistically converted to the dark side.
33:00
Would have been had Qui-Gon, lift and Qui-Gon and Dooku.
33:03
Tried to sway him based on. The corruption angle but op1
33:07
wouldn't have seen it as going dark side.
33:09
It would have been yet one more time in his life when he decided
33:13
he had to do. What was necessary for the
33:15
greater good and on Twitter Duchess of darksaber, light said
33:21
Sith Obi-Wan would be terrifying.
33:24
Cold calculating and utterly ruthless.
33:28
That's a very interesting take on it and I happen to agree with
33:31
you. This week in the United States,
33:33
we have a national holiday of Thanksgiving.
33:36
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33:38
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