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Chris Rock Coming to Caesars Palace, Las Vegas Movies That Don't Show the Real Vegas, Grammy Awards Weekend | Ep. 112 · Vegas Revealed

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• 1:19
  Dayna Roselli: Welcome to Vegas Revealed episode 112.
• 1:22
  Dayna Roselli: The Oscars are over, but not without some drama.
• 1:25
  Dayna Roselli: Now Las Vegas gears up to host the Grammys for the first time ever.
• 1:30
  Sean McAllister: And Chris Rock is on his way here, too.
• 1:32
  Sean McAllister: Plus, how Vegas has been misrepresented in movies.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: Is that a good or a bad thing?
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: I think it starts with seeing something like The Hangover or Ocean's Eleven or even going way back to something like Viva Las Vegas, and they see this place that seems like no other place that they've ever seen, nowhere that they've ever been, nowhere that exists anywhere else.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, why wouldn't you want to go there?
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: Our full conversation coming right up.
• 2:00
  Sean McAllister: Let's get right to it.
• 2:02
  Sean McAllister: Spin the wheel.
• 2:12
  Sean McAllister: Welcome to Vegas Revealed episode 112.
• 2:15
  Sean McAllister: Sean McAllister here along with Dana Roselli.
• 2:18
  Sean McAllister: We're recording a little bit early this week because we have a jam-packed schedule, Dana.
• 2:23
  Dayna Roselli: We do.
• 2:24
  Dayna Roselli: We're doing a bunch of work shoots uh later in the week, so we thought, gosh, we need to get the podcast done.
• 2:28
  Dayna Roselli: We want to do something, but we're gonna be out, uh, we're working for it's kind of like a ch big charity event here in Las Vegas, and we're gonna get to see Jake Owen and Midland perform, though.
• 2:38
  Dayna Roselli: That'll be really cool.
• 2:39
  Sean McAllister: Yeah, I mean two big country acts right there, and this is all a big fundraiser for multiple charities here in uh across Las Vegas and in southern Nevada.
• 2:53
  Sean McAllister: So we're looking forward to that, but wanted to make sure that we got a great podcast episode for you, too.
• 2:59
  Dayna Roselli: It's actually a Monday that we're recording this, and it's the day after the Oscars.
• 3:03
  Dayna Roselli: Holy moly, Sean, that was intense.
• 3:06
  Sean McAllister: High drama.
• 3:08
  Dayna Roselli: I mean, I did not know what I was looking at when that was going down.
• 3:12
  Dayna Roselli: I happened to be watching at the time, and I know everyone's talking about it, and things are going to be changing through the week, and what we would even say might not even make sense by the time this podcast drops.
• 3:23
  Dayna Roselli: But wanted to point out that yes, I know the world is watching as America presents the Oscars, and uh eh, wasn't the best look for us, I guess.
• 3:33
  Sean McAllister: No, I I think a good rule of thumb is keep your hands to yourself.
• 3:37
  Dayna Roselli: I think so too.
• 3:38
  Dayna Roselli: Wow.
• 3:39
  Dayna Roselli: But the thing is, is we have the Grammys coming into town now.
• 3:41
  Dayna Roselli: So that was what that was movie's biggest night.
• 3:44
  Sean McAllister: Right.
• 3:45
  Dayna Roselli: And now music's biggest night.
• 3:47
  Dayna Roselli: Coming to Las Vegas, it's gonna be held at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.
• 3:51
  Dayna Roselli: This is the first time ever.
• 3:53
  Dayna Roselli: They canceled it because of COVID.
• 3:55
  Dayna Roselli: You know, there was like that was when Omicron was out and it was peaking and they needed to move it.
• 4:00
  Dayna Roselli: And then whatever facility they had in Los Angeles that they needed to do the Grammys at was not available.
• 4:07
  Dayna Roselli: So now they said, hey, we're gonna go to Las Vegas.
• 4:10
  Dayna Roselli: So it'll be interesting to see if there's more security, if any of the rules will change, maybe comedians won't be on stage for this one.
• 4:19
  Dayna Roselli: I don't know.
• 4:20
  Sean McAllister: Well, uh Dana, I did uh hear that over at the Grand Garden Arena, they are installing seat belts in all of the seats so nobody can reach the stage.
• 4:29
  Dayna Roselli: Oh my gosh, that is funny, Sean.
• 4:32
  Dayna Roselli: You didn't tell me that joke before.
• 4:34
  Dayna Roselli: I like that.
• 4:35
  Dayna Roselli: That's a good good idea.
• 4:37
  Dayna Roselli: It's like going on a roller coaster when you know when you pull the bomber over your head and it locks into place.
• 4:43
  Sean McAllister: And and you will only be released if you win an award.
• 4:48
  Dayna Roselli: Oh man.
• 4:49
  Dayna Roselli: Yeah, we'll uh have to see how that goes.
• 4:52
  Dayna Roselli: I'm scheduled to be at the Grammys for uh the show that we are correspondents for called Vegas on.
• 4:58
  Dayna Roselli: So um sometimes things change, but if that's the case, we'll have great video and social media posts for you, and we'll share all that content.
• 5:07
  Dayna Roselli: Uh so check out our social media pages for that.
• 5:10
  Dayna Roselli: Also, related to the Oscars fiasco, uh, Chris Rock um making an appearance here in Las Vegas.
• 5:17
  Dayna Roselli: We talked about it in the past, but he's gonna be here in like a little over a month doing stand-up over at the Coliseum at Caesars Palace.
• 5:24
  Dayna Roselli: So that's still on May 6th and 7th, and then he'll be back on July 3rd.
• 5:29
  Sean McAllister: And I wonder, uh, which we talked about before, wonder if uh phones, if he'll require phones to be locked up in those pouches for his show here.
• 5:39
  Sean McAllister: Because I have a feeling that that slap may make it into his routine.
• 5:44
  Dayna Roselli: Right.
• 5:44
  Dayna Roselli: I know.
• 5:44
  Dayna Roselli: Well I saw him at the It should anyway.
• 5:46
  Dayna Roselli: Uh it should.
• 5:47
  Dayna Roselli: I mean, I'm could I I don't know.
• 5:48
  Dayna Roselli: Yeah, who knows.
• 5:49
  Dayna Roselli: He'll either completely ignore it, which I don't think a comedian could do, right?
• 5:53
  Dayna Roselli: Right.
• 5:53
  Dayna Roselli: And I I think he was a bit embarrassed too, so uh he's kind of gotta probably get out of that feeling by kind of making fun of it at some point, I'm assuming.
• 6:03
  Dayna Roselli: I don't know.
• 6:03
  Dayna Roselli: We have to see what what goes down, right?
• 6:05
  Dayna Roselli: But I did go see Chris Rock at Park MGM, and we talked about that last week when he was here just a few years ago, and we did have to lock up our phones.
• 6:12
  Sean McAllister: Yeah.
• 6:12
  Dayna Roselli: So probably.
• 6:13
  Sean McAllister: Well, and I thought it was interesting.
• 6:15
  Sean McAllister: Uh Kathy Griffin made a comment on on Twitter saying something to the effect of uh do all comedians now need to worry about somebody rushing the stage and hitting them in the face after a joke that people don't agree with.
• 6:30
  Dayna Roselli: I know.
• 6:32
  Dayna Roselli: I mean, and that really could apply to anyone on stage now, right now?
• 6:35
  Dayna Roselli: I mean, how is that even and it's strange, you know, and I think because many people thought possibly it was a bit, but I'm actually shocked when he started to walk up there that security didn't like immediately like kind of get into place.
• 6:49
  Dayna Roselli: Like it's it's interesting.
• 6:51
  Dayna Roselli: I don't know.
• 6:52
  Dayna Roselli: Uh it's strange.
• 6:53
  Sean McAllister: Yeah, it is.
• 6:54
  Dayna Roselli: So, but yeah, she she makes a good point, and you know, Kathy's been through it.
• 6:58
  Dayna Roselli: She's been cancelled, and then is she back now?
• 7:00
  Dayna Roselli: I don't know.
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  Sean McAllister: She's coming back.
• 7:01
  Dayna Roselli: I don't get the whole canceled thing.
• 7:03
  Sean McAllister: She's got gigs booked and she's on her way back, but not fully uncancelled.
• 7:09
  Dayna Roselli: Right.
• 7:09
  Dayna Roselli: So if you want to see Chris Rock May 6th and 7th and July 3rd over at the Coliseum at Caesars Palace.
• 7:19
  Sean McAllister: And do you remember Dana when the Oscars used to be about movies?
• 7:24
  Sean McAllister: Yeah.
• 7:25
  Sean McAllister: About the nominees and whether they would win or not.
• 7:29
  Sean McAllister: There would be controversy over whether a movie was nominated or not.
• 7:34
  Sean McAllister: Well, we reached out to a movie critic here in Las Vegas.
• 7:37
  Sean McAllister: His name is Josh Bell, and we were chatting about, you know, w who he thought was going to win for some of these awards.
• 7:43
  Sean McAllister: But then uh the conversation kind of went in another direction.
• 7:47
  Sean McAllister: He was writing an article about how Las Vegas is represented on the big and small screens, and we thought that would be something interesting to talk about.
• 7:56
  Dayna Roselli: So we have Josh Bell on the line, film critic.
• 8:00
  Dayna Roselli: Sometimes I agree with some of Josh's picks, sometimes I don't.
• 8:04
  Dayna Roselli: But today we're not talking about picks.
• 8:06
  Dayna Roselli: We're talking about how Vegas is portrayed in movies, which is a really interesting topic, especially for our listeners that love to travel here, and maybe they don't travel here a lot, but they think they have this certain image of Las Vegas.
• 8:19
  Sean McAllister: Yeah, and Vegas really has become a character in and of itself in a lot of movies.
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  Sean McAllister: Josh, thanks for joining us.
• 8:26
  Sean McAllister: How's it going, man?
• 8:28
  Sean McAllister: Uh it's good.
• 8:28
  Sean McAllister: Thanks for having me.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: Always happy to be here.
• 8:30
  Dayna Roselli: Yeah, now you're doing this piece and working on this piece.
• 8:33
  Dayna Roselli: So we said we want to talk about this.
• 8:34
  Dayna Roselli: Um, because you know, d are you trying to say that like a tiger's not going to show up in our hotel room if we have a hangover?
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, maybe if you have a really intense hangover, that could happen.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, or at least you could perceive that it happens.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: But um no, I think that that is the thing, is that, like you say, people who come to Vegas uh or are enticed to come to Vegas, a lot of them, I think it starts with seeing something like the hangover or Oceans 11 or even going way back to something like Viva Las Vegas, and they see this place that seems like no other place that they've ever seen, nowhere that they've ever been, nowhere that exists anywhere else.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, why wouldn't you want to go there?
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: And then you arrive, and not that we don't have amazing things here in Vegas, because of course we do, but you arrive and it's not the same as what it is in the movies.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_00: But I think uh the way that the movies portray it is sort of aspirational for us here in Vegas, or or it should be that the idea of creating this mythical wonderland that everyone will want to come to and be amazed by is something that we in Vegas should be inspired by instead of what we often do as locals, which is grumble about how, oh, this wasn't right and you can't turn left on that street and end up there.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: And not that it's not fun to feel superior to other people because we live here, but uh, I think to me, having seen so many of these and I watched so many Vegas set movies for work purposes, I I I've kind of come around to this opposite view of like it's it's beautiful in a way to live, it's like living in in Asgard or something from the Marvel movies.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_00: You live somewhere that people see as this uh other world, and it's a special thing, I think, even when it's completely inaccurate.
• 10:28
  Sean McAllister: Well, it it's funny that you talk about like taking a left turn and ending up somewhere that it's not even humanly possible to end up.
• 10:36
  Sean McAllister: That's exactly what I was thinking when I was watching the Jason Bourne movie.
• 10:40
  Sean McAllister: They had that big chase scene going down the strip, but it it started and picked up in the most random places, and the way that they put it together made it seem like, you know, immediately after they passed the Bellagio Fountains, they were crashing into the Riviera.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: And obviously we know that that's wrong, but at the same time, that created the most exciting chase scene and made Vegas look like this place of one wonder after another as Jason Bourne is careening across the strip or whatever.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: So, not that we should move those casinos to be next to each other, but I think the the vibe of that, or you know, you could you talk about Oceans 11 and the whole heist there is predicated on the idea that these three casinos are attached via some sort of crazy underground network where this giant vault exists and they're all owned by this this ruthless mogul, and and none of that stuff is true, but is kind of cool.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: And it would be amazing.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't know if we're going to create an underground network of tunnels or go back to the days of ruthless uh moguls who own casinos and might uh break your arms, or that we should.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: But I I I I guess instead of complaining about that, I feel like we should, you know, we can look at those things and think about what about that made people excited to come to Vegas and how can we sort of capture a little piece of it, maybe.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um so it is kind of my uh pie in the sky uh interpretation of this kind of stuff that does frustrate many of us here locally.
• 12:20
  Dayna Roselli: Yeah, and in one movie that we were talking about offline, a good example is Showgirls, right?
• 12:25
  Dayna Roselli: Because you were saying, you know, there aren't there isn't like that main featured show anymore that features showgirls on the Las Vegas strip, but yet, you know, that movie is iconic, and showgirls in general are in a lot of different movies.
• 12:39
  Dayna Roselli: They always appear, even now.
• 12:41
  Dayna Roselli: And and you were and we were saying like there really isn't a show that features showgirls.
• 12:46
  Dayna Roselli: There's you know little bits and pieces of showgirls as kind of backup or something in some of the shows.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think that's not only Showgirls the movie, which uh sort of paradoxically is more about like uh exotic dancers than showgirls, really per se.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, the the the image of the Vegas showgirl.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: You watch any movie or show that takes place in Vegas or even just has a moment where characters go to Vegas for like five minutes, and what happens?
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: There are showgirls.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: Just recently, the HBO Max show Hacks with Gene Smart, which is a great show, and has a lot of honest real stuff about Vegas, especially the way that entertainers have to kind of straddle this line between performing on the strip and then going out to strip malls to uh, you know, go to ribbon cuttings or whatever, and that's the balance of their lives to be a working entertainer here in Vegas, which I thought was really effective.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_00: But that the character, Gene Smart's character, you know, she's walking backstage, going to her show, and who else is backstage is a bunch of showgirls in those traditional costumes.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: And so even a little moment like that in a really recent show, it's the obvious thing that people expect of Vegas.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: And yet we've closed all our showgirl shows, you know, Jubilee is gone, um, you know, Folly's Bergère is gone.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: Those shows are relics from our perspective here in Vegas, but I think from an outside perspective, that is the thing.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: You could say the same thing about Elvis impersonators, right?
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: We've moved past that.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's a rare thing to have here anymore.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: But if you watch a Vegas movie, what have you got?
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_00: Elvis everywhere.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know, maybe that's part nostalgia.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I think because it still occurs in current movies and shows, it's more than just nostalgia.
• 14:32
  Dayna Roselli: Right.
• 14:32
  Dayna Roselli: And it's interesting that they even called the movie Showgirls Showgirls.
• 14:37
  Dayna Roselli: It's like they use that name.
• 14:38
  Dayna Roselli: I mean, obviously, you know, they they didn't go with exotic dancers.
• 14:41
  Dayna Roselli: Like I'm going to Vegas to be an exotic dance, you know what I mean?
• 14:43
  Dayna Roselli: It's so it it it pulls you in.
• 14:46
  Sean McAllister: Although there are many of those stories.
• 14:48
  Sean McAllister: Girls who come to Vegas to be an exotic dancer.
• 14:50
  Dayna Roselli: Very true, very true.
• 14:51
  Sean McAllister: Those are true to life.
• 14:52
  Dayna Roselli: And Sean was saying that he thinks casino is a pretty good depiction of how Vegas was back in the day, right?
• 14:58
  Sean McAllister: Yeah, I mean, uh that period of time, I feel like obviously it was based on uh real people and some true events and some drama mixed in too, but that really did show kind of life on and off the strip.
• 15:16
  Sean McAllister: The country club living and the plane flying in.
• 15:19
  Sean McAllister: But then what was really going on on the strip in those days when the the mob was running things and then being run out.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, casino, like you said, is based on true events and so is maybe more concerned with that kind of accuracy than other movies are.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I think even casino kind of plays into this idea that, you know, there's this cliche about Vegas was better when the mob ran it.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: And in reality, there are many, many things about that that is very they're very not true.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: And nobody really wants to live in a Vegas where you may get murdered and buried in the desert.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think anyone wants that.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um But but the way that the Vegas, the mob run Vegas is depicted in movies, yeah, okay, those murders aside, um, has that level of glamour that I think people are enticed by.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe it's weird to say it about a hyper-violent movie like Casino, but people watch Casino and they think, well, I want to go there.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um and so that is another aspect.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and you know, it shows the the darker side of Vegas, but in a way, not to endorse violence or anything like that, but in a way, sort of that the danger of it is something that draws people here as well, I think.
• 16:33
  Sean McAllister: Yeah, kind of the whole idea that inhibitions are lost and anything goes is is really the what it boils down to.
• 16:40
  Sean McAllister: And and something else that it boils down to really anytime Las Vegas is featured in a movie or a TV show.
• 16:48
  Sean McAllister: I mean, it's a giant marketing tool, isn't it?
• 16:51
  Sean McAllister: You look at the number of people who are still moving to Las Vegas on a weekly and monthly basis, something's bringing them here.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is a marketing tool, and I think that's part of what I'm saying is that the marketing tool is sort of divorced from what the reality ends up being when people come here.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: Because, of course, these movies aren't made by the LVC VA, they're made by filmmakers, and then not that they should be, they of course should not be.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but they're made by filmmakers who have artistic visions, and that there's that disconnect.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: But sometimes I think when it works out, it can be really cool.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: We talked about the hangover.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you have that crazy hangover suite in the hangover, which did not exist.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: It was made for the movie, it was built on a sound stage for the purposes of those characters.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: And then the movie was so popular that Caesars kind of seized on that and made a hangover suite.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that kind of symbiotic relationship is a cool thing that maybe we could have more of if uh people were, I don't know, casino executives or whatever, not that I have any expertise there, were paying more attention to that pop culture zeitgeist.
• 18:00
  Dayna Roselli: Well, and I think too, like a lot of the movies, you know, when they're made, they don't actually take place in Vegas.
• 18:05
  Dayna Roselli: Some of the parts, you know, obviously they're done at the studio or whatever, but it's true.
• 18:08
  Dayna Roselli: When you walk by Caesars and you look up at that certain area, you're like, that's where they sat at the hangover.
• 18:13
  Dayna Roselli: And like if we could have more of that iconic spots all around, it could be really cool.
• 18:18
  Dayna Roselli: Um, what's your favorite Vegas movie?
• 18:20
  Dayna Roselli: What do you think, uh and whether it's true or not, what is your favorite all-time Las Vegas-based movie?
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: Oh God.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: I know you see, I should have prepped this better.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: My favorite of all time.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't know if it's my favorite of all time, but I do like, you know, sort of paradoxically, as I'm saying this about the image of it, I like the movies that do go beyond the strip and depict some honest aspects of Vegas life, but especially as it kind of um clashes with or has a an interaction with the strip, like I was saying, they show on hacks.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: There's a movie called Electric Children by Rebecca Thomas, who is actually a Vegas local.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: And um, it was shot and takes place mostly downtown.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: And it is about stars Julia Garner, uh, before she was a big star from Ozark.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: Playing this uh sort of sheltered Mormon teen from Utah who uh has very uh strange thoughts about uh reproduction and has decided that she's become divinely pregnant by listening to a cassette of a rock song, and that this this uh sort of washed-up rocker who lives in Las Vegas is the divine father of her child.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: So she escapes from her sheltered Mormon compound and comes to Las Vegas and uh meets up with these kind of like uh dirtbag musicians who crash in this warehouse downtown.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: And it it's not anything on the strip, um, but it also captures the mystique.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like, where does she go to find the divine rock star who magically impregnated her?
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: Well, of course, she goes to Las Vegas.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: So um, maybe that's not my favorite of all time if I like went through a list, but that's the one that comes to mind and I think is underrated and and captures this idea without being about gambling or things on the strip or Danny Ocean or any of that kind of stuff.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, electric children.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: I I think the plot line has all the rest of them beat, that's for sure.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: It is it is a strange kind of magical realist storyline that it doesn't always quite come together perfectly, but it's good.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: And and Julia Garner is is great.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I know Dana, you're a big Ozark fan.
• 20:31
  Dayna Roselli: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: And um, she uh she does a really good job in this film as well.
• 20:35
  Dayna Roselli: Yeah, and she was good in inventing Anna too.
• 20:37
  Dayna Roselli: Um, this is totally off the beaten path.
• 20:39
  Dayna Roselli: I was just curious, just because so many people have been home watching, you know, Netflix and everything for the last two years.
• 20:45
  Dayna Roselli: You know, I feel like more than ever we're watching series.
• 20:48
  Dayna Roselli: And I'm just curious your take on um, this is not Vegas related, on uh like a lot of these shows that I watch that are series, I feel like they should be a movie, a lot of them.
• 20:58
  Dayna Roselli: Like there's eight episodes, like even hacks would have been a great movie.
• 21:02
  Dayna Roselli: I I thought toward the end, I mean, do you feel that way as a critic?
• 21:06
  Dayna Roselli: When you're watching some of these series that are coming out now, that the God, this was be a great two-hour movie.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, and I think especially for stuff that tells a limited story.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, at least with hacks, that's an ongoing series.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: There's gonna be more to it.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: So leaving it kind of open-ended and um taking the plot in a lot of different directions is a positive, is what you want to see, so that there's more potential for future episodes.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: But a lot of these, and especially for whatever reason, these kind of true crime ones that are a huge trend right now, whether that's inventing Anna or the Dropout or Pam and Tommy, um, these are the kinds of things that I think would have been two hour movies in, I don't know, 10 years ago, even not even that long ago, but because of sort of the streaming economy and these streaming services are getting more hours viewed.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: And they're getting more people on the hook for longer if there's multiple episodes that they stretch these things out.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it is a big frustration for me.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: And and the general trend of TV to no longer be episodic, I think I find very frustrating as a critic.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: And the idea that every TV series is just a 10-hour movie, whether that's a single season of a show that's meant to be ongoing or a limited story.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I wish that more of these creators would pay more attention to the idea of a single episode telling a complete story, even as a piece of a larger ongoing story.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I, you know, I feel like I'm I'm shouting into the wind on a lot of that kind of stuff because viewers eat up these things, and people who won't sit for two and a half hours and watch a movie will sit for eight hours and watch a miniseries, which I don't get.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's true.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I I I don't I don't like binge watching.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: If I'm watching a series, I would rather watch an episode you know, a week sometimes even and take a long time to digest it.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: But that seems to be the minority in a lot of cases now.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: But I agree with you, Dana.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's frustrating.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: And if they're gonna make these things 10 friggin' hours long, then at least do something in those 10 hours that justifies it.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: Tell more side stories.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, have little vignettes within there and don't just take what have been what would have been your two-hour story and stretch it like Taffy until it practically breaks.
• 23:36
  Sean McAllister: And Josh, obviously you have great insights uh into movies and TV and the entertainment industry as a whole.
• 23:44
  Sean McAllister: How can people catch up with you and and follow along with everything you're doing?
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: Well, if you want to listen to me uh Bloviate about more movie stuff, you can check out Awesome Movie Year, which is the podcast that I co-host with comedian Jason Harris.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, each season we take a look at a different year in cinema and uh break down different movies in each episode.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: That is at awesomemoviear.com, at uh awesomemoviepod on Twitter, and awesomemovieyear on Facebook and Instagram, although I think there's literally nothing on its Instagram page.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: But follow it anyway.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um you can check me out.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh follow me.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: I I write all over the place.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: I have a uh piece coming up in Desert Companion uh about this whole idea of the way that Vegas is represented on screen coming up soon.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: But I write all over, so check me out on Twitter at Signal Bleed and on Facebook at Josh Bellhates Everything, and you can kind of uh that's what collate all of my various writings and ramblings uh in those places.
• 24:47
  Dayna Roselli: The best website title ever.
• 24:49
  Dayna Roselli: Josh Bell hates everything.
• 24:51
  Sean McAllister: I feel like the only things you don't hate are the or the only things you don't hate are the things that Dana does.
• 24:57
  Dayna Roselli: I know.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we we we we seem to have an extreme opposite of tastes uh recently in discussing the Oscar nominations.
• 25:06
  Dayna Roselli: We do.
• 25:06
  Dayna Roselli: But the thing is, is when I do want Josh's take on things, after I watch something, even my mom will say sometimes, right, Josh, I'm curious to see what he thought.
• 25:13
  Dayna Roselli: And so I tweet him.
• 25:14
  Dayna Roselli: So if you want to tweet Josh after you, you know, because sometimes after a series, you're like, I want to talk about it, but like I I'm not sure if someone close to me or my friends have watched this.
• 25:23
  Dayna Roselli: Josh has seen everything, so you can like, he's like a lifeline, like a therapy line to talk about series or movies.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm happy to help you.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, your mom, my my mom is always texting me about the things that she's watching.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: So mom's everywhere.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm happy to discuss movies and TV with you.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 25:41
  Dayna Roselli: Josh, thanks so much for joining us as always.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having me.
• 25:46
  Dayna Roselli: All right, let's get right to our tips.
• 25:51
  Sean McAllister: And Dana, both of these tips are uh they have wide interest.
• 25:56
  Sean McAllister: However, there's also some really great local Las Vegas connections with them.
• 26:02
  Dayna Roselli: Yeah, comedian Joe Coy, funny, funny guy.
• 26:05
  Dayna Roselli: Um, his mom lives here in Las Vegas, owns a little restaurant, and he has done stand-up in Las Vegas for a very long time.
• 26:13
  Dayna Roselli: He visits here a lot.
• 26:14
  Dayna Roselli: And I know you and I have interviewed him many times.
• 26:17
  Sean McAllister: He's so funny.
• 26:18
  Dayna Roselli: Yeah, he's coming.
• 26:19
  Sean McAllister: He's such a nice guy, too.
• 26:20
  Dayna Roselli: He really is.
• 26:20
  Dayna Roselli: He's come to the TV studios that we've worked for, and we always have a blast with Joe, and I love to see that he is just blowing up and doing like bigger and bigger tours.
• 26:30
  Dayna Roselli: Um, I think the last time I saw him was in the Mystere Theater at Treasure Island.
• 26:35
  Dayna Roselli: Oh, okay.
• 26:36
  Dayna Roselli: Great, really funny.
• 26:38
  Dayna Roselli: Um, and now he's I love this.
• 26:40
  Dayna Roselli: He's coming to T-Mobile Arena, and I was like, good for you, Joe.
• 26:44
  Sean McAllister: That's a big deal.
• 26:45
  Dayna Roselli: It is, right?
• 26:46
  Dayna Roselli: He's gonna be coming Saturday, November 19th, so it's not for a little while yet, but we were excited about this, and he's making a stop on his Funny is Funny World Tour.
• 26:55
  Dayna Roselli: And the pre-sale is gonna begin on March 30th, so we thought we'd let people know about that now.
• 27:00
  Dayna Roselli: But Joe is a funny guy.
• 27:03
  Dayna Roselli: If you've never seen him live, you gotta go to this.
• 27:06
  Sean McAllister: That is, and it's a great opportunity to see him in a great arena.
• 27:10
  Sean McAllister: T-Mobile is a great venue uh for all sorts of events, sporting events, concerts, comedy tours.
• 27:17
  Sean McAllister: So snatch up those tickets while you can.
• 27:20
  Sean McAllister: Another uh show that we're excited about here is our hometown band, Imagine Dragons.
• 27:27
  Sean McAllister: Over the past, I don't know, decade plus, we've watched their rise to fame here in Las Vegas.
• 27:34
  Sean McAllister: They started playing bars and then some festivals where they really broke big, and then they have just gone global over the past several years.
• 27:45
  Sean McAllister: And now they are bringing their Mercury World Tour back here to their hometown at Allegiant Stadium.
• 27:52
  Sean McAllister: That show is coming up on September 10th.
• 27:55
  Dayna Roselli: Oh, that'll be good, yeah.
• 27:56
  Dayna Roselli: They'll fill that up, and that's gonna be, yeah, like you I don't even know if it's a homecoming because they live here, but like but you know, in the in a sense, uh it'll be a great stadium show.
• 28:05
  Dayna Roselli: It will, I think, to be at Allegiant Stadium.
• 28:07
  Dayna Roselli: He's gonna be, uh they are going to be, I should say, joined by special guest Macklemore and King's Elliott, and it's I guess the band's biggest North American shows of their career to date.
• 28:18
  Dayna Roselli: So congratulations to them.
• 28:20
  Sean McAllister: Absolutely, and there are going to be so many l Las Vegas supporters who have seen them, you know, come up over the years.
• 28:29
  Sean McAllister: So I have a feeling that that's gonna be a really special show, not only for fans, but for the band Imagine Dragons as well.
• 28:36
  Dayna Roselli: Yeah, and I love that they've been releasing m music like all through this whole COVID period, you know?
• 28:41
  Dayna Roselli: They've they've kept busy, they took advantage of the time, and and now they've got new songs that have caught on, and they've got their obviously their hits that I'm sure they're gonna play.
• 28:51
  Dayna Roselli: And I was just chatting with someone who saw them recently in Los Angeles and said the show was fantastic.
• 28:56
  Sean McAllister: Yeah, they are.
• 28:57
  Sean McAllister: They're great live performers.
• 28:59
  Sean McAllister: And and you talk about the music that that comes out.
• 29:02
  Sean McAllister: I think that there was a period of time where they were recording so much music that I believe they had almost like two albums worth of music in the can, and they were just like waiting to release it.
• 29:17
  Sean McAllister: So there's stuff that is coming out now that was recorded like two, three years ago.
• 29:22
  Sean McAllister: And so, you know, it's gotta be exciting to finally have that music out and to be performing it and then to have a big hometown show.
• 29:29
  Sean McAllister: So Joe Coy at T-Mobile Arena, Imagine Dragons at Allegiance Stadium, two great shows with uh artists who have great deep Las Vegas roots.
• 29:41
  Dayna Roselli: I love it.
• 29:42
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• 30:04
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• 30:08
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• 30:16
  Sean McAllister: And we'll be back next week.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: Let's get away.
• 30:25
  unknown: Let's go ahead.