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Monday Mini: SMNTY Reviews Hocus Pocus 2 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I don't welcome stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I never told your production of iHeart Radio and today
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  Speaker 1: for this Monday Minny, we thought it would be fun
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  Speaker 1: if we did a sminty, a very brief sminty review
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  Speaker 1: of the film Hocus Pocus Too, Yes, which just came
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  Speaker 1: out on septem uh and we've already done a feminist
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  Speaker 1: movie Friday on Hocus Focus and our love for it.
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  Speaker 1: So if you want to check that out, then please do.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, that said, this is going to have spoilers
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  Speaker 1: in it. Honestly, this is one of those movies where
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  Speaker 1: I think you could be spoiled and you could still
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  Speaker 1: watch it and not really understand what's going on. M
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  Speaker 1: So I say, okay, I say it as like it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of I guess we could spoil it, but I
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  Speaker 1: still think you'd see it and not really anticipate something.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, yes, if you want to go in completely
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  Speaker 1: surprised as I did, then come back to this one
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  Speaker 1: at a later date. It's on Disney Plus now not
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  Speaker 1: a current sponsor, but has been was sponsoring the past.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, we just wanted to talk about it because
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  Speaker 1: we're fans. We've talked about it before it's Halloween and
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  Speaker 1: which it's Halloween and which is and I just felt
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  Speaker 1: like we could have a quick conversation on it. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So funnily enough, I watched this the day it came
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  Speaker 1: out and with some of my friends who have loved
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  Speaker 1: Hocus Focus and we've watched it from like kids together
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  Speaker 1: and one of my friends, my good friend Marissa, who
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  Speaker 1: has been on the show, listened to the show. Um
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  Speaker 1: when she arrived, she was like, Oh, no, we don't
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  Speaker 1: need to should've already seen it. Knowing she said, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, I must not be good. But I
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  Speaker 1: was kind of like, oh, I thought the whole point
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  Speaker 1: of this hanging out session was you're going to like
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  Speaker 1: drink cider and car pumpkins and watch Oka Focus. And
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  Speaker 1: she's like, no need. She realized later when I was like, look,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to watch Hocus Focus. Um. It was at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the night and she was going to
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  Speaker 1: bed and I was like, I'm going to watch it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay up and watch it because I haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen it and I really want to see it. And
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  Speaker 1: she was like, oh, you meant the second one, Like
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  Speaker 1: of course I met the second one to be fair.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm about to do a movie watching party
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  Speaker 1: with Caroline Old hosts hocus Pocus the original, which I
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  Speaker 1: did have to ask when you've mentioned one or two
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  Speaker 1: um on their projector so you know it's not so
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  Speaker 1: you need to clarify these things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: just assumed she was in the loop because to me,
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  Speaker 1: like my whole Friday was like, oh the fokes too.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was coming out either though,
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  Speaker 1: so might So when did you watch it? So I
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  Speaker 1: watched it this week? Uh so today is the sixth
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  Speaker 1: of October, so it's been out for almost a week now,
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  Speaker 1: a full week now? Yeah, almost, I think I watched it.
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  Speaker 1: Is it yesterday? Did I watch it yesterday or the
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  Speaker 1: night before? Y'all all the days are coming through. But
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  Speaker 1: either I watched it, either the feather or the fourth.
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  Speaker 1: So but I knew we were doing this episode. I
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  Speaker 1: may have waited later had I not. Oh man, I
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  Speaker 1: was immediate. I was like, I've got to see this.
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  Speaker 1: I watched trepidacious, and I have to say, watching it
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  Speaker 1: with some friends of mine that I've had for so long,
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  Speaker 1: they were both like I didn't want to see it
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't want it to ruin my childhood memories
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  Speaker 1: of hocus Pocus, which I didn't have it to that level.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, and this is kind of let's give
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  Speaker 1: our short reviews, okay. So I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I loved the original hocus Pocus so much I got
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  Speaker 1: banned from my house. Okay, But it was not like
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  Speaker 1: I can admit there are a lot of plot holes
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  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of nostalgia involved with me liking it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a super fun movie. I watched it
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  Speaker 1: every Halloween. But I wouldn't tell you like, oh, this
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  Speaker 1: is a masterpiece. I just think it's really fun and
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  Speaker 1: I like it a lot. I would say with this one,
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  Speaker 1: it was kind of the same where I really enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: I liked that it had a really strong message of
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  Speaker 1: friendship between women of the sisterhood between women. But if
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  Speaker 1: you start to pick up art that plot, you're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be in a good place. So just leave it
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  Speaker 1: me and enjoy it. I think I saw like this
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  Speaker 1: headline trending the day after from The Guardian or The
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  Speaker 1: Insider where it was like this is a bulwildering movie.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that's that's fair. Um, and I've actually
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  Speaker 1: seen it twice now, because the first time I think
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  Speaker 1: I was so wrapped up and kind of chatting with
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  Speaker 1: my friends about it that I missed some things. In
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  Speaker 1: the second time, I was like, Okay, it didn't really
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  Speaker 1: clarified things some but not too much. So what is
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  Speaker 1: your your quick reviewer, Samantha. So, I came in here
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  Speaker 1: with no expectations. I honestly had no thought of like
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  Speaker 1: this is going to ruin something. It was just not
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  Speaker 1: gonna because between all of the Witches movie, I do
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  Speaker 1: like hocus Pocus, but I like the Witches better. Just
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  Speaker 1: the scary one with Angelica Houston. That was the one that, like,
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  Speaker 1: I really loved that was a little older. So I
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  Speaker 1: would have been like, Okay, yeah, uh so I did
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  Speaker 1: like this movie and I really like the musicals, but
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  Speaker 1: I think I liked the other one a little more
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  Speaker 1: because it was a little more hunting and scarier. Even
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  Speaker 1: though stuff like that usually now it's like a little
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  Speaker 1: harder for me. I would have been like, what is
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  Speaker 1: wrong with me? But so in my mind coming in it,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't really scared or a trepidatious about it. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, Okay, let's watch it. And I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was sweet. I thought everything worked in that it's a
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  Speaker 1: completely new tail at this point. I love that the
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  Speaker 1: three originals Sara, Jessica Parker, but Miller and Kathey to
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  Speaker 1: Jamie worked back into this and they seemed to do
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  Speaker 1: really well. I love Bette Mimler. I loved her growing up. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I loved her in Big Business, which goes back way
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  Speaker 1: back when. So seeing her in this movie was fantastic
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  Speaker 1: and I'm really glad that they came back on. I
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  Speaker 1: felt like they were the same roles again. Like it
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  Speaker 1: was beautiful. I thought the makeup was done wonderfully. The
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  Speaker 1: kid actors did a great job. I was very excited
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  Speaker 1: about that. I liked the new plot where it was
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  Speaker 1: friends instead of a boy and a girl chasing after
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  Speaker 1: each other. I really appreciate that. And then the loss
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  Speaker 1: of friendship, would you go into high school? All of
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  Speaker 1: that just spoke to me. I was like yes, Um,
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  Speaker 1: so for me, I thought it was a good movie. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I watch it again, is it's gonna be like? No, No,
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily. Do I think that it should continue? That
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  Speaker 1: would be hard since the three which is disappeared into
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  Speaker 1: the I guess I don't I don't know, um so
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  Speaker 1: all of those things, it would be my commentary. Uh sure,
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  Speaker 1: there was a lot of willing suspension of disbelief, yes
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  Speaker 1: for me. But I thought it was great and I
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  Speaker 1: thought the actors did a good job. Yeah. And I
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  Speaker 1: one of my friends after it was done and she
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  Speaker 1: said they looked like they have so much fun. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I really did, And I liked that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's fantastic, and I hope it is. I
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  Speaker 1: hope it was a fun experience because that if I
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  Speaker 1: found out any of the thing different that they would
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  Speaker 1: ruin it, because that's what I want to think about it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And it was funny because I watched the second one
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  Speaker 1: and then I went back and watched the first one.
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  Speaker 1: Then I watched the second one again, and I didn't realize,
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  Speaker 1: like at the end of the first one, you have
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  Speaker 1: your whole uh you know, you would die to save
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  Speaker 1: your sister. Uh, like Bett Mintler's character when Fred is like,
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  Speaker 1: you would die to save your sister, you fool, And
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  Speaker 1: this one she's like, oh, you know, power is nothing
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  Speaker 1: with that my sisters. So that was kind of a
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  Speaker 1: nice little circle of her coming to realize, Oh the
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  Speaker 1: sisterhood is so powerful and I'd rather have that than power. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And there was the whole you know, power is meant
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  Speaker 1: to be shared. There was the whole plot line of like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: we're moving into high school, some of us are interested
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  Speaker 1: in boys, were you know, kind of drifting apart in
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  Speaker 1: this way, but then coming back together and sharing that power.
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  Speaker 1: So I did. I think, as you said before we
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  Speaker 1: started recording, I enjoyed it. I think fames a kid,
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  Speaker 1: I would have loved it right. And that's exactly the
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  Speaker 1: same with hocus Pocus. As I was asking my partner
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to watch with me and they're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well whatever, I don't think I think it's gonna be cheesy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, sure, but the first one was cheesy. But
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  Speaker 1: we just love it so much because it was endearing,
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  Speaker 1: Like there's so many things to it when you have
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  Speaker 1: a childhood memory. The same thing for I know people
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  Speaker 1: feel the same way about Princess Bride or which I
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  Speaker 1: was just recently watched because the over day I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: we need to bring us in an episode that can
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  Speaker 1: bring it to us as an episode other than I
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  Speaker 1: loved it as a kid. Um. But like stuff like
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  Speaker 1: that like, you have a heart for it, and it's
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  Speaker 1: something you watched as a kid, and therefore you will
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  Speaker 1: always love it because you watched it as a kid,
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  Speaker 1: and I bring Gables, we know that I will always
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  Speaker 1: love it. Um. But I think hucus Pocus is right
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  Speaker 1: there and that it it really spoke to us. And yes,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was geared towards kids, and then the
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  Speaker 1: founding audience, the beginning audience, no one between. You can't
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  Speaker 1: come in as an adult never watching it and think
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  Speaker 1: that this is going to be a good movie. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's that's a good way to look
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  Speaker 1: at it, Like I do. It kind of annoys me
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  Speaker 1: when adults go into a movie that is definitely for
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  Speaker 1: kids and they're like, like, you can have your critiques,
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  Speaker 1: but calm down, it's not necessarily for you, and especially
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  Speaker 1: if nostalgia is involved, and like, but the originals this one,
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  Speaker 1: it's okay. I did think it was funny. Uh one,
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  Speaker 1: there's immediate singing. Immediate I like they were like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they'd like singing, and they just leaned in. I did
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  Speaker 1: enjoy that they kind of tried to address the It
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  Speaker 1: sounds so silly talking about this with hocus polks, but
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  Speaker 1: like ages um where they comment on, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just just a patriarchal idea of of how women
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  Speaker 1: should look. And then the younger generation takes the witches
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  Speaker 1: to a Walgreens, which must have paid a lot of
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  Speaker 1: money for this sponsorship. But it's like, here's our aging
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: anti aging creams. It's got the souls of children in it.
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  Speaker 1: Like kind of that commentary was interesting to see, um,
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  Speaker 1: But I mean I really at the heart of it
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  Speaker 1: was the sister hit bit and seeing seeing that be
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  Speaker 1: the heart of it was really rewarding because I think
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  Speaker 1: when people quote hocus focus and there were definitely some
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  Speaker 1: lines and hocus pocus to those like oh, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to quote this later like this is very very ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: and funny, and I like it are kind of you
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  Speaker 1: know that the sisters joking around, are resting with each other,
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  Speaker 1: are I don't know, it's just something fun to see
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  Speaker 1: their relationship playing. Yeah, like that's the best part of it, right.
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  Speaker 1: I will say the child actors that were supposed to
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  Speaker 1: portray the sisters, um, they did have a great job.
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  Speaker 1: They really tried to put on the manumalisms really well.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, okay, they're really trying. Um. I
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  Speaker 1: love that. I love that friendship. But I really again,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, that's the first thing. I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is nice. This is nice to see, like the
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  Speaker 1: healing of the relationships. And it's not a boys necessarily
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  Speaker 1: except for the one not too smart boy who couldn't
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  Speaker 1: figure out that he was insulting people because he was
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  Speaker 1: making fun of them for being weird, as he likes
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  Speaker 1: to say. And I did it like that. It was
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  Speaker 1: pretty much center to completely on the ladies, and it's
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  Speaker 1: written by a woman, it was directed by a woman,
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  Speaker 1: Like everything was very, very central to women in itself.
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  Speaker 1: He even did the tongue in cheek about that many
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  Speaker 1: drag shows have the Sanders and sisters. Yeah. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: I have many of friends who love dressing drag to that,
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  Speaker 1: Um and yeah mine as well. But I love that.
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  Speaker 1: That just gets on top of that. And I think
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  Speaker 1: they know, they know what it's about, they know what
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  Speaker 1: is happening, Like they played to that again. This is
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  Speaker 1: for the fans who've been here for the last thirty
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  Speaker 1: years and the newbies coming in trying to figure it out,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll have a newer trend coming on. I hope
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  Speaker 1: so I will hope to see this costume because the
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  Speaker 1: costumes are fantastic. Yes, I did love as you know,
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  Speaker 1: I would costume contest scene. It was so funny. I
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  Speaker 1: love like all of the different because I was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you always have the group that tries to do it
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  Speaker 1: this way and this way, this man, this way. I
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  Speaker 1: love it. And I love when Winterfred said like we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna win whatever. Listener is like no idea and they lose.
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  Speaker 1: It's good. Yeah, I thought it was very good. I
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  Speaker 1: I love I'm a sucker for friendships where it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is real, this is not necessarily that you get
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  Speaker 1: together and everything works out and witchcraft happens. You know,
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  Speaker 1: one of you becomes a witch. I would have loved that,
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  Speaker 1: to become the witch, I guess. But in having like
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  Speaker 1: the understanding of growing up and what does this look
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  Speaker 1: like and then that it's that's the center of the focus.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have enough and I'd love to see it.
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  Speaker 1: I know it was. It was really nice and it
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  Speaker 1: was as I was watching it, like I said, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh gosh, I would have loved this as
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  Speaker 1: a kid, like to have this representation, and I thought like,
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  Speaker 1: even if you know, some of the plot points weren't
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  Speaker 1: quite there. The scene at the end was very moving. UM,
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  Speaker 1: when Winnifred is like having her moment of oh, it's nothing,
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  Speaker 1: it's not my sister's um, that was pretty I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it was very very sweet. UM. And then just like
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  Speaker 1: a brief mention because I do think it's sort of
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  Speaker 1: interesting when children's movies deal with this. There was this
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  Speaker 1: whole like, especially in the beginning God Salem Witch Trials
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  Speaker 1: vibe and a really strong Curitan religion vibe, and the
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  Speaker 1: Sanderson sisters as children existing outside of that and therefore
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: being outcast, which is that's something we talked about with
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  Speaker 1: which is all the time. UM, So that was interesting.
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  Speaker 1: The issue of virginity, which we talked about in the
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  Speaker 1: original Hocus Focus episode as it's handled in that movie,
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  Speaker 1: was mentioned, not really explained, but I mentioned I like
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  Speaker 1: explanation of never let a candle and You're like, I'm
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: a good way to go, I'm not a good slash
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  Speaker 1: And then I thought it was funny, as we discussed
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: in that hook Is Focus episode, there are certain things
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  Speaker 1: I look back and I'm like, wow, I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: I understood what this meant. And one of the things was,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: you know, Billy being ah Winifrid's love that then cheated
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  Speaker 1: with Sarah um and in this movie he Billy was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: he shared one kiss. She was saying, Shula, that's not
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  Speaker 1: the true story. And Gilbert, who's the owner of the
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Magic Stop Slash Sanderson's Sister museum, being like, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell your story. I'm gonna correct the
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: correct the record. But it was just interesting because I
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: was like, I wonder seeing that in a children's movie,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just curious how much children understand of that or
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: how much I understood of it. Yeah, but I thought
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: that was an interesting take two of like, maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: not the story we've been told and he just wants
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  Speaker 1: to get the record straight. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, So
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I know it's not like plot. It's
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  Speaker 1: just an easy movie. If you if you want to
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  Speaker 1: have a children's movie that you want to watch with
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  Speaker 1: your kids and kind of explain your love, this could
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  Speaker 1: go well. Again, some people be like, no witchcraft, which
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  Speaker 1: you know to so you know you do you? Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I mean I'm not a parent, but I always
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  Speaker 1: recommend watching these kinds of movies first and then you
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  Speaker 1: can kind of judge whether or not you want to
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  Speaker 1: show it to your kids. But the songs are really catchy.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. I was telling Samantha, I've had
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: them like I'll wake up and it's just stuck in
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  Speaker 1: my head, so be aware of that. Also, just in closing,
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was very the book having this strong emotion.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, you have like really emotional eyes book. I
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  Speaker 1: you're correct, Yes, you're right, because it's communicating a lot
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  Speaker 1: it does with the eye. But there are a lot
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: of fun throwbacks, so I would recommend watching the first
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  Speaker 1: and second one close together because there was a lot
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: of stuff. I was like, oh look, ye yes, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So that is our sminty review quick review of hocus
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  Speaker 1: Pocus Too. Please let us know what you thought if
• 17:41
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