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Ep. 849: Fur Bans, Gonad Jerky, and Connor “Bass Head” Hellebuyck · The MeatEater Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the news show Mother Liquors. Today we're covering
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Colorado's dumb First Sale band Iowa. This is a different
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: subject subject one Colorado's dumb first Sale ban Two Iowa
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: is hunting for volunteers who can tell one frog call
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: from another. Three Boi Yanni himself hasn't caught a disease
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: called seal finger. He's gonna tell us about it. Four
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: The Red Snapper Wars continue in the American South East.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: Five Bodycat prices Bobcat prices go through the roof like
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: way through the roof. Six Mark Kenyon has some stuff
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: he'd like to get off his chest. Seven we're gonna
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: talk to American hero gold medalist hockey goalie Connor Hellibuck, who,
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: in all honesty, eh, I'll save it. Not a huge
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  Speaker 1: sports guy, but I know patriotic sterns what I feel.
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: Join today by Giannis. You tell us Mark Kenyon, doctor Randa,
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: William Spencer, Newhart, Brody Henderson. As usual here, we're gonna
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: start out with our news. For that, I'm gonna throw
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: it over to Mark Kenyon for his news.
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of news on my end. Started
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  Speaker 2: this new gig at Meat eater. Uh, moving from just
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: being like the uh the resident whitetail guy is what
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  Speaker 2: everyone referred me to, uh, and now director of Conservation.
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  Speaker 2: So I've got some cool new projects coming out because
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  Speaker 2: of that. One of which I guess I can tease
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  Speaker 2: now is a new podcast, Awesome, which I'm excited about
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  Speaker 2: that'll be dropping late April ish. And I first pitched
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: this as a Mark Kenyon unleashed Just like forever, I've
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  Speaker 2: had a kind of box around me that's like, you
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  Speaker 2: gotta live in the white tail world, which I love,
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  Speaker 2: which is a big part of me.
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  Speaker 1: But then there's a other whole other half of my unfenced.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I like that. I like that, But yeah, unleashed,
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  Speaker 2: unfenced it didn't. It didn't pass the muster of all
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  Speaker 2: of our our smarter folks here in the company. But
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  Speaker 2: more more seriously, what's it called now? Future wild with
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  Speaker 2: Mark Kenya? I don't mind unleashed or unfenced. Unfence sounds
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  Speaker 2: a little weird that it's too too late and too
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  Speaker 2: broad dropped. There's already a thing like that. What else
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  Speaker 2: could he call it?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like your antlers fell off?
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, but it's not about antlers. That's the things
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get away from antlers.
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  Speaker 1: They've dropped off. Okay, I'm a little faster, Mark Phil second.
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  Speaker 1: Oh thanks man.
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  Speaker 2: So Future Wild is going to be my place to
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  Speaker 2: talk about all things beyond just white tails. But really
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  Speaker 2: it's like at the intersection of hunting, fishing, wildlife, and
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  Speaker 2: wild places, but with a view towards the future. So
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  Speaker 2: if I'm talking to a biologist about I'll tarping, it's
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: going to be what's the future hold for them? God,
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  Speaker 2: if we're digging into something about mule there, it'll be
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  Speaker 2: exploring what's what's next or what can we do or
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  Speaker 2: what does this mean for next year or next decade.
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  Speaker 2: Uh So, Yeah, I'm really excited about It's giving me
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  Speaker 2: a chance to get to talk to a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the people and about topics that I've long been fascinated
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  Speaker 2: by and do in my spare time, but haven't been
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  Speaker 2: able to, you know, have a platform to talk about
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  Speaker 2: a public.
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  Speaker 1: I like that idea about going into the future. Be
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: like if you had instead of telling old drinking stories,
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: you're telling drinking stories about that you'd like to have happen,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the hope there's lots of drinking stories.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's a good idea.
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  Speaker 2: What is the future of Yeah, and so it's gotten me,
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  Speaker 2: it's given me the opportunity to to, you know, have
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  Speaker 2: a reason to read all the books that I already read.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, giving me an excuse makes you feel like you're
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: not being lazy when you're reading books.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly paid to get paid to read the books I
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  Speaker 2: already want to read. Gives me excuse to get to
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  Speaker 2: reach out and talk to people that I've long wanted
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  Speaker 2: to talk to. So we've got three or four episodes
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  Speaker 2: in the can already and and some really interesting ones
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  Speaker 2: coming down the pipe.
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  Speaker 1: Who do you what do you give me? The tease
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  Speaker 1: of the subjects for me?
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  Speaker 2: Uh so the first handful, Yeah, there's gonna be a
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  Speaker 2: conversation with that goes deep into caribou right now in
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  Speaker 2: the future.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on with them? That's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one that explores habitat fragmentation and island beat biogeography,
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  Speaker 2: and really what's happening is more and more large landscapes
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  Speaker 2: become metaphorically islands can.
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  Speaker 1: Make a prediction, Yeah, that gets worse spoiler.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that one's that one's gonna be interesting. There's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be one that's exploring the interesting kind of sometimes
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  Speaker 2: oppositional but in the future, hopefully more times than not,
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  Speaker 2: parallel movements of the outdoor recreation community and the hunt
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  Speaker 2: fish community and av cating for public lands and in
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  Speaker 2: the future of all those things. That's one. There's another
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  Speaker 2: one in that one.
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  Speaker 1: Can make a prediction.
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  Speaker 3: Can I ask about it? The future of that one?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: In that one, do you figure out if the backpackers
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  Speaker 3: were going to start paying a tax to help out.
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  Speaker 2: We're definitely gonna help pay We haven't recorded that one yet,
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  Speaker 2: but you're definitely gonna be asked backpack tax, dude, because
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  Speaker 2: the backpack taxes tax the whole thing in organ is
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  Speaker 2: an interesting example of kind of an end around on that. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: if you're familiar with that shure right now.
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  Speaker 1: Carl Malcolm has has become very interested in these alternate
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  Speaker 1: funding mechanisms for state fishing game agencies. Missouri had the
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  Speaker 1: some kind of UH, I can't remember what Another state
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  Speaker 1: had a one eighth of one Yep, was it Minnesota?
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure? Maybe it was Minnesota. I can't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Some state did like a like a small percentage of
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  Speaker 1: a penny of the sale tax and that state now
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  Speaker 1: is doing acquisitions off that money. They're doing land acquisitions
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  Speaker 1: off that money. Yeah, and in an.
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  Speaker 2: Organ it's it's just like basically a lodging tax that
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  Speaker 2: they're just increasing a tiny bit and that's going to
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  Speaker 2: be significant dollars. So so yeah, get to explore stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that that that I always follow.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really interested in.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's super relevant to this stuff I'll be doing
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  Speaker 2: on the conservation side here and meeted her and so
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  Speaker 2: this will be a place to talk about it. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: very excited about that. So that's that's a big one.
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  Speaker 2: One other piece of news if i've if I've got
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  Speaker 2: another second, a lot of new projects coming down the
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  Speaker 2: pipe with the you know, in the conservation lane here,
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  Speaker 2: but one of those that I want to bring up
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  Speaker 2: to the top is that auction house will be opening
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  Speaker 2: up again this.
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  Speaker 1: Year, the auction house of bodies, the auction house A
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  Speaker 1: long time out. Yeah, I don't know what happened, dude,
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  Speaker 1: A couple Yeah, please, So if you were if you
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  Speaker 1: remember back to our show doss Boat. The last season
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  Speaker 1: of doss Boat featured a boat I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was, but I had a
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty horsepower Hond on it which has
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  Speaker 1: got like three hours on it. So if you're in
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  Speaker 1: the market for a one fifty Honda with eight hours
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  Speaker 1: or three, that's gonna be in the auction house of bodities.
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  Speaker 3: I think we should be just off the boat itself too.
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  Speaker 1: We just need to get it out here. I just
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  Speaker 1: had the engine shipped out here just to keep an
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  Speaker 1: eye on it.
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  Speaker 3: He had the boat.
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  Speaker 1: Would be cool to have that too. Oh here's another
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  Speaker 1: thing in the auction ausubodities. We bought my dad's truck. Well,
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  Speaker 1: my dad died. Well, my dad died like shortly after
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  Speaker 1: the terror attacks, the nine to eleven attacks. That's always
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  Speaker 1: remember wh people asked me when he died. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: it was about around then he died. Then he had
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  Speaker 1: a truck at that time, that truck wanted to going
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  Speaker 1: to my buddy Matt Drost. Matt Dross drove it all over.
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  Speaker 1: He just hauled a couple of dead deer home in
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  Speaker 1: that truck. We just bought it from him, and we're
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  Speaker 1: going to auction off a truck which I've slept in
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  Speaker 1: the front of the back of.
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  Speaker 4: You described.
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  Speaker 2: Are you gonna bit on it? No, you don't want
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  Speaker 2: Maybe what year.
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  Speaker 1: When my when the neighbor down the road one time
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  Speaker 1: the neighbor down the road died and his boat went
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  Speaker 1: into the auction house of bodities I fished out of
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  Speaker 1: that boat off through growing up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and so I'll add a little bit more tentatively.
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  Speaker 2: We're thinking on top of giving away the shitty uld
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  Speaker 2: Truck's right, it's gonna be a lot better.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna pack it's gonna be a shitty truck full
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  Speaker 1: of good gear.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna load the shitty truck full of a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of great hunting gear, and then I'm gonna hand deliver
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  Speaker 2: it and maybe make Yanni or something to come with me,
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  Speaker 2: drive across the country bring it to you.
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  Speaker 1: That's sorry, I forgot about that detail. We're gonna we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna literally stuff the back. It'll be stuffed with a
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  Speaker 1: ship shitty truck full of great gear or something like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a good one. We gotta get
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  Speaker 1: rid of our punt gun somehow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're done with that thing.
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  Speaker 1: We always were planning on getting being done with it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll go into the auction house
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  Speaker 1: of Bodities or going to the Big Gun auction, but
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  Speaker 1: that'll be in there. We just built a new studio
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  Speaker 1: and bought a bunch of barnboard from Yanni's neighbor. But
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  Speaker 1: we got a bunch left over all that great barnboard,
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  Speaker 1: some sixteen footers that'll be in the auction. Can sign
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  Speaker 1: sign what the barnboard? You don't even know about this?
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  Speaker 3: It just has you know if you just if I
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  Speaker 3: can just siphon off to put your bid.
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  Speaker 5: Some of this stuff sounds like local pick up only?
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  Speaker 5: Are we shipping it on?
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  Speaker 1: I just got the motor will ship to you. The
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  Speaker 1: lumber is pick up only. I'm not shipping sixteen foot barnboard.
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  Speaker 6: I just got a sixteen foot trailer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, won't give you a deal like here have been
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  Speaker 1: how many miles Randall will bring you the barnboard.
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  Speaker 6: And then he'll I'd love to do that, okay?
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  Speaker 3: Uh oh.
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• 10:00
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• 10:38
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  Speaker 7: Corrections, Corrections, Corrections, nail.
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  Speaker 1: Gentlemen, this is where you correct us, and when you
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: catch us being wrong about something, you win free boots.
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  Speaker 1: That's how serious we are at the news show to
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  Speaker 1: know when we screwed up. Okay, so the winner of
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: today's correction of the week gets a free pair to
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  Speaker 1: Coba's boots. If you win today, that's what you get.
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  Speaker 1: Correction number one about Porterhouses. Why the hesitation because I
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: embrasing about this. One's embarrassing to me. The writer in says,
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  Speaker 1: this good morning, I was listening to episode seven ninety
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  Speaker 1: eight tis the season to be hunting, and nearly drove
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  Speaker 1: off the road when Steve confessed he doesn't know what
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  Speaker 1: a porterhouse is, I said, he quotes me. I said,
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  Speaker 1: I know it's a good thing to order, but what
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  Speaker 1: the hell is a porterhouse? He said, I was being honest.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't have told you either, because it's.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: Not a hunting thing. Hunting dudes don't talk about porter
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a correction.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not.
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  Speaker 4: It seems like we're already veering away from correction.
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  Speaker 1: It's why it's a big umbrella. You could even be
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  Speaker 1: wrong by omission and win the corrections context. I might
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  Speaker 1: vote for this guy, so he says agreed. First, he
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  Speaker 1: tries to establishes his bonafides he grew up in butcher shops,
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  Speaker 1: even the tea. Then he turns it into an insult.
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  Speaker 1: So he establishes his bonafides by saying he grew up
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  Speaker 1: working at butcher shops, and then twists the dagger by
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  Speaker 1: saying even the guys sweeping the floor knew what a
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  Speaker 1: porterhouse was.
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  Speaker 2: Damn.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently it's this a big tenderloin. Is a porterhouse? A
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: small tenderloin is a tea bone. A porterhouse must have
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  Speaker 1: a tenderloin at least one point two five inches across,
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  Speaker 1: measured from the bone to the widest point of the fleg.
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  Speaker 1: As you move backward along the short loin, the tenderloin thickens,
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  Speaker 1: which is why the porterhouses come from the rear end
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: of that section. All porterhouses are tea bones, but not
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: all a tea bones or porterhouse. He goes into then
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: to continue again that he can't believe I didn't know this.
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  Speaker 1: He ends on that note in writing that's called bringing
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  Speaker 1: her back around.
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  Speaker 4: What's a tea bone without a bone?
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  Speaker 1: Raise your hand and tell me who? Who in here?
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  Speaker 1: Who in here? Do that?
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  Speaker 6: The only thing I know about porterhouses is that they
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  Speaker 6: used to call the porterhouse at Appax Steakhouse the Melbourne,
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  Speaker 6: and it was usually the most expensive thing on the menu.
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  Speaker 3: No, I was going to say that you shouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: embarrassed because all of them unless you came up in
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  Speaker 3: the beef industry somehow or just whatever. You grew up
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  Speaker 3: in Kansas City and you went to a big steakhouse
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  Speaker 3: once a week where they had these kind of things.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: We've always been processing wild game and we don't ye.
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  Speaker 1: Termin knowledge, but everybody knows your long time on Yanni
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  Speaker 1: because you used to run the grill at Tuscanini's. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you didn't pick this up there. No, you're not even
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  Speaker 1: a floor sweeper at this butcher shop.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: I also think it's like generational, like people back in
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  Speaker 4: the day would have known.
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  Speaker 1: My kids aren't like I'll take you.
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  Speaker 4: People used to go to butcher shops. You know what
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: I mean?
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: Correuction number two, Mount Rushmore. The writer in says this, hey, all,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: on your podcast Neanderthal Love, When was that it called
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: the news show?
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  Speaker 6: Well, the episode is called Neanderthal Love Something Something something something.
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: He's doing some medatorializing here, man, you can't follow everything
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: goes on around here.
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  Speaker 1: On your podcast Neanderthal Love, it was discussed that the
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  Speaker 1: America the Beautiful Pass could be used to grant free
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  Speaker 1: access into Mount Rushmore, Spencer Newhart's home state. No pass
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  Speaker 1: this is needed for entry into Mount Rushmore. It's free.
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  Speaker 5: Randall said it, I'd like to like real slap to
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  Speaker 5: the nuts for Spencer.
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  Speaker 6: A correction. I think I just implied that you could
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  Speaker 6: use it there. Oh Err suggested I.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Can't believe Spencer wasn't all over it Big South Dakota. Yeah, yeah, tattoos.
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  Speaker 3: Did you go there when you live there?
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Was that a thing?
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: I think I had been there once or twice. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: ever and both like you know, when I was a kid.
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  Speaker 1: So correction number three another slap to the nuts for me.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Spoon bill pronunciation good morning. The writer in says, I
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  Speaker 1: have a correction. From the first episode of the news show.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: When talking about the National Park passes, Steve referred to
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: the spoon bill as a roseated spoon bill. However, the
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: correct name is a roseate spoon bill.
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  Speaker 6: That segment was full of errors.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, who's gonna win?
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  Speaker 1: The boots? Correct your number one? Porterhouse Ignorance.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Are we voting right now?
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: These are tough Man correction number one, free boots? These
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: are all nitpickers. Some nitpicker is walking away with free boots.
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  Speaker 1: Correction number one, Porterhouse Ignorance. Correction number two, Rushmore correction
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  Speaker 1: number three, spoon Bill. I know what I'm voting me too.
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  Speaker 1: We have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven votes.
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  Speaker 3: That includes you film.
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  Speaker 8: That's great, the.
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  Speaker 1: Engineers in there, Porterhouse show of hands. Please, good Lord done?
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  Speaker 1: That's stupid. I just I like the fact that he
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  Speaker 1: was so insulting about it.
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  Speaker 6: His heart's in it.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: You liked the approach. I like the approach.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, I'm a little bummed that you just
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  Speaker 3: didn't read it word for a word, because I felt
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  Speaker 3: like it was a well written piece.
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  Speaker 1: Long cracked it longer it's not, oh, but shortening it.
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  Speaker 2: I made correction.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Here's why.
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  Speaker 3: I good info and I got a chuckle out of it.
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  Speaker 6: YEA, save who you're voted for.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you who, and I'll tell you why Rushmore
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  Speaker 1: Because here is a thing where some dude picture some
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: little kids sitting there. He's got no money, you're looking
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: up family, his family's broke, and he's like, all fixing
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: to go to Rushmore. Yeah, okay, But then you know,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: as he does, he's listening to the news show, you
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: know every week, he likes that show, and all of
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: a sudden he's like, ship, I guess we're not going.
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: But then he heard the correction. He's like, I guess
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: I just got to pay for parking, and it's like,
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: we're going to Rushmore.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: It is free. Picture that kid and you're getting and
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: he could be showing up there in some brand new
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: damn boots. I don't think it's happening. But no, mister Porterhouse,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: who's obviously right right, I'm doing a money symbol with
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: my hand, who's obviously pretty well taken care of. If
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: he's down there, Porterhouses. Every time he turns around, congrats. Yeah,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: another rich guy, another rich guy out there, another pair
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: of boots. Thank god, that's just what the world needed.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Another rich guy in new boots. Thanks to Covis onto
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: your news. This isn't even that big of a deal,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: but I like it earlier. I think a year ago,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: a year ago coming up, the Great Lake Pickle was
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: on the show and he was sharing a hot turkey
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: tip that I think is mostly applicable to the American South,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: but I can think of examples in the North where
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: it's true. Think Pickle was explaining, if you're hunting in
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the South and you're hunting in a new area, cold
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: rolling into a new area, He's like, if you can
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: find an old church, the kind that has a cemetery outback,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: was even better. Doesn't need it, but if it has
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: it out back, it's better. There is a turkey near there,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: an old church has a turkey. He told us this
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: on the show, and he had a lot of examples
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: to back it up. He must have explained why pictures on.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: You're driving around in a rural area. Where do they
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: put the old church?
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Maybe on a hill where the turkeys live.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: It's just a freak it's a freak deal. But he
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: could back it up. He could back it up.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: He sends me a He sends me a piece of
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: legislation from Mississippi that he was unaware of. And the
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: fact that Mississippi even thought to have this. Just give
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: me a second here, keep talking, Brody.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: This legislation has do with hunting within a quarter mile
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: radius of a church. Steve will find the exact details.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Just keep keep them interesting.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: I think this is the kind of law that is like, uh,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: women can't wear pants.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: It's a worse law than that.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: It's worse.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: You read for the law. It's got a code and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: all that, like you know, like all the how they
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: do the codes section four nine seven six, weh and
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Here's the rule. This is an actual
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Mississippi law. If any person shall hunt within one fourth
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: mile of any church on Sunday while services are being held.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: He shall, on conviction, be fined not less than twenty
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: five dollars nor more than one hundred dollars.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: When when's it, bro.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but Yoda's meant to prevent say you're
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: sitting there in the old service and also out back.
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, this is one of those.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Dude would be like, dude, I'm out of here. But
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, his wife's like no, no, no, no, no. Section.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: Well, it's interesting about it cause it doesn't specify shooting,
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: it specifies hunting.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I can't even try. Yeah, but then Lake Pickle sent
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: me a thing from on X. He sent me a
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: screenshot from on X proving to me that when he's
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: hunting by a church, it's in service. He's a half
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: mile away. But yeah, I think it's to prevent dudes
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: from running out of church one rip.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Like, what if you owned land one hundred yards from
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: that church and you were hunting on.
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: Your land, Dude, I would have a real word with
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: the government, or I'd just be like, in addition to
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: all the other junk you spend money hunting on hunting turkeys,
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: there's also every year you have somewhere between a fine
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: of somewhere between.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: It's like, well, you know, a turkey tag twelve bucks.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: But then I got the fine you know, which is
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: which averages out somewhere around fifty sixty bucks.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: It's funny, though, this whole turkey thing around old churches
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: we have. I've had a number of friends that have
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: found shed antlers in old cemeteries or adjacent to them,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: So whenever they're driving around, they always eyeball the old
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: cemeteries in the nearby land.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Dude, I can think of it just sitting here right now.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I can think of multiple examples, even in El Norte
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: that's Spanish for the noise.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Wasn't there something that happened like in the last couple
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: of years where a dude got in trouble for killing
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: a gobbler in a cemetery? Remember we talked about that.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Yep, probably bushwhacked it right from behind a big old stone.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, hell of a way to do it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: And I get mad at him.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: No, because you're driving by that cemetery and seeing that
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: thing stressed around.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: For a week, I understand, Actually your will just breaks.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: There's we're gonna talk about some dudes in the news today.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Who I'm like, you should be in trouble. But I understand.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: A guy wrote in he's making gonad jerky. He's making
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: deer nut jerky and heart jerky. He put his deer
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: nut jerky and his heart jerky in the same bag,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: and people wouldn't eat the heart jerky because it was
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: next to his dear nut jerky.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Not just people, not just any people.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Firemen, wildland firefighters, pretty tough dudes, real tough guys.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: That's true. I didn't even think they include that detail.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Tough guys.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: That's why we're here.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, even tough guys won't eat his nut jerky. If
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: you promise not to poison it. I will eat your
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: nut jerky on air. If you send it to I will.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I came out.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Is that really what you would do with it? If
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you had a bunch of poison? You know what I'm saying,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: there's a better ROI on that poison. That Yeah, Like
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: you know the thing where kids are like that, they're
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: gonna get drugs in trick or treat candy. Like picture,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: you're like a bad drug addict. I feel like you
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: just hang on to the drug.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: Expensive If I wanted to poison you through the mail.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: I just send anthrax to the office like easier ways
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: of like waiting until he says nut jerky.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Because someone could back out of eating a jerky if
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: you just touch the envelope, it's all over.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I'm gonna eat his jerky, because I
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be poisoned.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: This brings up the Great American jerky contest. We ever
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: going back to that thing.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: No, whatever happened to that.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: The suits said we can't do it because someone's going
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: to poison us.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: When this guy, what's his name, the nut jerky Sam Samuel, listen, buddy,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: District forester, listen, you send me that nut jerky, I'm
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: gonna eat it right here on there, and I'll tell
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: you what I think about it.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: It looks good.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: At least doesn't look bad. Guy wrote in about this
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: he was talking to his daughter's boyfriend the other day.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: That is a weird sentence. I have ag who's thirteen.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Yanni has daughters right in that same bracket. Someday me
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and Yanni will be telling We'll be running around saying
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I was talking to my daughter's boyfriend the other day.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: M right before I beat the share out, I was
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: telling him how I'm about to punch.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: Him, and somebody at some point in the distant past
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: was saying that about you guys.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Oh definitely.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was talking to my daughter's boyfriend one day,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: this Steve guy.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: He tells me, hopefully it'll go on like this when
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: he says the kid nighteen loves waterfowl hunting.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'd be like, you picked a great little
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: boyfriend their daughter. I told my dog to pick her
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: boyfriend out for I was talking to my daughter's boyfriend
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the other day. This is the writer in Kid Loves
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: waterfowl hunting. From the start of the season till the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: end he is hunting. Love this guy morehouse maybe maybe
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Oh he's too old for my daughter. So he starts
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: telling me where all the ducks have been reported in
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the area. I had no idea where he was getting
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: this info, so I asked. He tells me there is
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: a handy app called eBird, which I have. This is
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: just for listeners. This is from Cornell. Birds will report
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the birds in the area and track what birds they
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: see on what body of body of water or in
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: a field. He then uses that info to either set
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: up on public water, or ask permission if it's private.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: This next line, Yes, this kid isn't very smart, but
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: he nailed it with this one.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I laughed out.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Aloud on the plane when I read that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: He Yeah, I've done this. Years ago. We were going
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: to go to Nevada in the Ruby Mountains to try
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: to hunt him Alayan snowcocks. And one day I realize
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: that people report all the snowcocks they see on E
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: bird and I was like, I can't believe these people
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: are reporting it. Likewise, we were one time staying in
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: a hut in New Zealand, hunting a public hut in
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: New Zealand, and there's a journal. In the journal, guys
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: like so weird we saw some shabby from the hut
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: across the river, which we had no idea about and
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: getting one of them. Okay, but I don't know if
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the waterfowl it changes so fast. I don't know how
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: true that is.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, but this is up to date, up
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: to date info.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but are enough people saying, hey, I just saw
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: some I just you know, I just saw a big
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: bunch of honkers out and old Lady McGinn's field, Like
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: like Is it like quick enough that you'd get on it, dude?
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: The burders are serious.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's legit info.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: They're not just out there like going I like honkers. No,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: they're like writing and putting this information into their lists
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: and their apps.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And yeah, if you were if you had moved to
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: a new area, if you were cold rolling, I don't know.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just a little skeptical.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I'd be looking at Eber and I'd be looking for churches.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: That's what I be doing old cemeteries.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: I also think this nineteen year old found like a
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: game within a game that he enjoys playing now, Like
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: it's it's more fun for him to go kill ducks
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: that he learned about via e bird from the next
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: door lady who's uh an Earnest Burder.
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: Oh, totally. If I ever killed a bear that someone
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: had reported on all trails, that would be a highlight accomplishment.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: People do that.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: They talk about the bears they see, they talk about
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: the elk they seeing.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Is that you then checked back in on the app
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: and like it.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: You can have it an up close picture of it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Bro, he's in the back now. If you'd like to
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: report him again, beavers is fish as background here for listeners.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I was talking about in the old days and the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: old fur trade era of the like they're in the
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: colonial time. Uh, the Catholics will sometimes have a hard
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: time accessing fish in the in like New World situations,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: and they want and and and at some point Randall
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: was going to dig into this. At some point they
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: got permission. They're like, hey, when we're trying to observe
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the lenten meal, we don't have access to fish, but
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: we have aquatic rodents and they live in the water.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: And it was said like they were giving a special
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: dispensation back in the old days that you'd be like, Okay,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: the church says, in the situation you're in, if you
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: can't get fish, have an aquatic mammal.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: It's about two hundred and fifty years ago in Detroit
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: where that happened.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Job, where'd you find out?
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: I wrote about it when we did the part in
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: my plate episode for Muskrat.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Oh? Perfect?
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Did I tell you about it? And that's why you
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: wrote about it?
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: No? No?
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, come on, ems So this guy, how am I
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: going to do this here? So there's a guy that
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: writes in he doesn't want us to use his name
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: or anything. He says, he does a lot of beaver trapping.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Now he okay, he writes it, put my spectacles on
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: here in January twenty nine, twenty twenty six. Well, I
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: don't know when he wrote it. Shouldn't have brought it up.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: He writes to the suits at the church, what do
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: you call him in this? In his denomination the padres
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: the cloaks. He writes to his padre. No, he writes
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: to the bishop the big suits. He's a Catholic. And
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: he writes to his bishop saying, hey, man, I'm a
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: big beaver trapper. Can I eat my beavers for the
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Lenten meal? His bishop? And this guy's got a stamp,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: the Roman Catholic Bishop of blank Okay. He writes him
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: a special letter back saying, go on ahead, eat your
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: beavers for your Lenten meal. And he ends his letter
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: this this dispensation the letters January twenty nine, twenty twenty six.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: The letter says from his bishop. His bishop writes him this,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: although this practice is not customary within these within this diocese,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the dispensation is granted with the understanding that the penitential
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: character of the Fridays of Lent will continue to be
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: faithfully observed through appropriate acts of prayer, self denial, and charity.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: This dispensation applies only to the consumption of muskrat and beaver,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: and does not otherwise dispense from the Church's discipline regarding
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Lenton observance. It is granted for the Fridays of Lent
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty six, and is not to
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: be presumed beyond this scope or duration.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's interesting that it's stuck it to there's expiration
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: date on it. Yeah, he has to ask again in
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Really stuck to them in the end.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: That's a lot.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: That's great though.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for more background, it was the seventeen eighties. They
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: were French Catholic missionaries. They had a few hard winters consecutively.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: It got to the point where they were starving and
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: eating chopped hay, and that was when they made the
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: determination that you can eat muskrats, which were plentyful where
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: they were living in southern Michigan.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Still, we also were they eat chopped hay.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Because they had the mustards.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: Because it wasn't legally yet for them to.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, just on a certain day they had to resort
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: to chopped hay.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: Yes, like that that was what got them to make
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: it okay for them to eat muskrats.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: But are you following me?
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: They didn't have any other food.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I got it. But if you came up to let's say, like,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: have you ever fasted for twenty four hours?
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I have. It's not that big of a deal.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I don't start eating chopped hay if I'm fasting for twenty.
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: There was a large There was a broader issue I
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: think with food supply.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: You said it was a tough winner, right, Yeah, I
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: know they were struggling.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: How many days during Lent? I smell fresh parrot boots?
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: For someone during Lent? How many days do you have
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: to only fish? I thought it was only Fridays during
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the lent period.
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: The problem is not that they just can't get fish,
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: it's that they're starving.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: More generally, they were probably the muskrats any day they wanted,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: except for the Fridays during Lent.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Sounds like someone needs to do a little fact check
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: in did please do I met you?
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I'm going to win the boots.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: I'm going to start making things that I can correct
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: m and then I'll write in the correction that's gonna
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: do and win the boots.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: We probably hook you up with a boot.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll need to vote for me.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Just get a po box and win the boots and
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: then put them in the auction house.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Audio Okay, everybody, joined now by Olympic gold medalist Hunter Hellibuck,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: who was the goalie during the Olympic gold medal game
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: there against the damn Canadians who must have blocked Like,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I heard something crazy. You could probably
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: tell us like there's like forty two shots or something
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden and and you didn't get the
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: You didn't You of course didn't get the winning goal,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: but you carried the game man.
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: Thanks.
• 34:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I did help on that goal though, I gotten assist.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: Actually, you're pretty rare for a goalie to get that.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: That's amazing.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I want to tell you. I want to first admit
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: something to you. It's it's a running joke in my family.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: It's a running joke among my friends that I'm the
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: dumbest guy in the world about sports. But I have
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: You could ask my kids this. I periodically make my
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: kids watch the nineteen eighties, like miracle on ice incident,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: and I teach it to them as sort of a moment,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: a defining moment in American history. So because of that,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: like I like, Olympic hockey matters to me. And I
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: happened to be traveled on your Guys Day, on your
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Big wind Day. I was traveling with our colleague Max Barta,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: who is like all in way in on hockey, and
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: so I got to live the game next to him.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: We wound up in the we were traveling, so he
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: wound up in the delta lounge, and tension in the
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Delta lounge was high. When you guys won, people erupted
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: in the Delta lounge, I mean went nuts in the
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Delta lounge. Max is running around in his jersey, his
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: jersey that was the goalie when we beat the Soviets.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: That dude's name is on the back of his jersey.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: In the airport, guys are coming up to hug Max,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: high fiving him. It was like the funnest sort of
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: thing that like just to be by Max and through
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: all that, and we watched it and it was like,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: honest to God, like it was like at that moment
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: the Delta Lounge. It was like emotional, dude, and it
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: was amazing to watch. And I and I said, and
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: then my buddy Tommy Edson, who I like a lot,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: text me like in the minutes after and he's like,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: this guy has a large mouthed bass on his helmet.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: He's like, you need to talk to this guy. And
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: so here we are.
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah. I think.
• 36:38
  Speaker 9: We didn't really feel how much it brought the country
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: together until we stepped foot back in America and then
• 36:44
  Speaker 9: it was just it was insane. Everywhere we went, every
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: place you let one little USA channel and this the
• 36:52
  Speaker 9: whole place. It was so much fun. I mean, the
• 36:56
  Speaker 9: last the immediate seventy two hours after we were I
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: mean I can count the hours of sleep.
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: On one hand.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: The just the feel from the people around was just incredible.
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: I mean, we were supposed to live in New York
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: and we ended up switching to my to Miami within
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: I don't know, four hours before the flight, and it
• 37:20
  Speaker 9: took that four hours for everyone to know exactly what
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: we're doing the entire day, inner ray before we had
• 37:27
  Speaker 9: our tenterary. So that was pretty cool. And I think
• 37:30
  Speaker 9: the best thing I could have done is throw a
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: basket in my mask. I mean, I put a fish
• 37:33
  Speaker 9: on every single mask, but I like to try to
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: keep it with basket because I love bass fishing, but
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: I mix in trout while I like must be you know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: the change up. I've had a lot of masks over
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: the years, but putting the mask on there is just
• 37:47
  Speaker 9: absolutely blowing up my biggest passion of bass fishing.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: That's great. So I got a friend that plays Major
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: League Baseball, and man, that is not a fishing friendly.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: That is not a fishing friendly enterprise. What is your like,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: what's your offseason look like?
• 38:03
  Speaker 10: Like?
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: When do you guys like really free to fish?
• 38:07
  Speaker 9: So our last regular season game is roughly April eighteenth,
• 38:11
  Speaker 9: so mid April. If you make playoffs and go on
• 38:14
  Speaker 9: for another two months to the end of the final
• 38:16
  Speaker 9: so mid June. But that's only two teams. For the
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: most part, the fishing season is mid April to say
• 38:24
  Speaker 9: mid September, and fishing season kind of ends end to August.
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: But if you don't make playoffs, you up mid April
• 38:31
  Speaker 9: all the way to mid September.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I've asked my buddy in baseball this because for him,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: it's whether season's gonna end and what kind of hunting
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: he's going to be able to do in October or not. Yeah,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: And I this I'll talk about a guy named Pete Alonzo,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: And I asked him, do you ever hope you don't
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: make playoffs so you can hunt more? And he said
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: that is not a hope.
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Well you know I have it.
• 38:57
  Speaker 9: I have it set up pretty good where I mean,
• 39:00
  Speaker 9: we play a lot of the Southern teams, and I
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: have a little travel rod and a little backpack with
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: so gear in and any chance I get post practice
• 39:09
  Speaker 9: or given off day, I just go the backpack on
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: and go find a spot like that. Yeah, I go
• 39:14
  Speaker 9: off the bank or get a guide if I have
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: a full day off. If not, I'll just I'll just
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: hike around and walk around the lake and try to
• 39:21
  Speaker 9: catch a fish here and there. But Winnipeg's pretty good
• 39:25
  Speaker 9: for fishing and hunting. I got we have all of October.
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: I will we'll start in September. The geese hutting up here.
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: The bird hunting is incredible. They're coming because they come
• 39:37
  Speaker 9: in by the thousands, like you're I've limited out within
• 39:41
  Speaker 9: forty five minutes with ten guys, which is crazy. But
• 39:45
  Speaker 9: the deer hunting is shortly after that. So we go
• 39:48
  Speaker 9: we go for fishing season, get here for the hockey season,
• 39:52
  Speaker 9: and then we have hunting season, which starts with birds,
• 39:55
  Speaker 9: then goes to bucks, and then the ice breeze is over,
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: and then we have world class.
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: Walleye ice fishing. I mean, it's just one thing after
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: the next. It's really fun.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, of all the places you've lived and considering
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: where you grew up, what do you regard as like
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: when you think of home water, you know, like the
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: sort of a like for you, the emotional center of
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: your fishing life is where like what's home water?
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: So home home home water.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, like would you imagine yourself like on
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the like the place that means the most to you?
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: What is that place? What body water?
• 40:32
  Speaker 9: So, I mean all that we have in Michigan a
• 40:35
  Speaker 9: ton of small lakes, especially in Oakland County. That's where
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: I grew up and that's where I still live in
• 40:40
  Speaker 9: the summer. So I would say any of those lakes
• 40:43
  Speaker 9: I know in like the back of my hand, but
• 40:45
  Speaker 9: from like a more broad spectrum, I would consider Lake
• 40:49
  Speaker 9: Saint Clair my homeowner. God on the smaller lakes, but
• 40:53
  Speaker 9: I'm also pretty good on the big lake too. And
• 40:55
  Speaker 9: the big lake is if someone's coming into go fishing,
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: you take them at a big lake.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: So if you had to go small mouth bass, large
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: mouth bass, where you at on.
• 41:05
  Speaker 9: That small mouth bass, You're going straight to Lake Saint Clair.
• 41:08
  Speaker 9: Okay you can catch I mean you can catch six
• 41:10
  Speaker 9: pounders in there, but for the most part you're catching
• 41:12
  Speaker 9: twenty and twenty pound five pound bags. But's that's your
• 41:16
  Speaker 9: five bass limit?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm What I meant was, if you had to
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: pick between small mouths in large mouths, like you're a
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: large mouth guy, would you.
• 41:25
  Speaker 9: Say yeah, uh no, I'd say I'm probably a small
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: mouth guy.
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: But you know, it's crazy.
• 41:30
  Speaker 9: You asked someone that's been fishing small mouth for ten
• 41:33
  Speaker 9: years and like, oh, I want to go catch large
• 41:34
  Speaker 9: mouth right now, and then vice versa. You ask the
• 41:37
  Speaker 9: large mouth guys, Hey, what do you want to go
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: catch it?
• 41:39
  Speaker 10: Oh?
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: I'd love to catch a small mouth.
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: So you know, for me, I think I can do both,
• 41:44
  Speaker 9: but I think small mouth just based on the side
• 41:47
  Speaker 9: and the quantity that we have them in Michigan, I
• 41:49
  Speaker 9: have a small mouth guy.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Then I got a personal question for you. If you
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: had to take a stab. How many large mouth bass
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: have you fried and eaten in your life?
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: I have eaten one. When I was a kid.
• 42:05
  Speaker 9: We didn't know we didn't know that it's a sport fish,
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: and we wanted to try it when we were younger,
• 42:12
  Speaker 9: and my parents made it. The second we got a
• 42:15
  Speaker 9: little more into fishing, we realized, oh, you don't really
• 42:18
  Speaker 9: eat these are for the sport. So it's very much
• 42:22
  Speaker 9: frowned upon it in my life and my world too.
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: Really.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, I got a buddy who was a He was
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: an amateur pro. Like what that's a contradiction? Amateur pro bass?
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Is that the right way you put it? Either way?
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: He's an amateur competitive bass angler. And I was fishing
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: with him, and I learned that this guy, his whole
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: life has been doing this. He had never eaten.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: A bass.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: You're talking about.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Man, I made him eat one.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: No, you actually made me make him eat one.
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: Oh sorry, I mean they're okay.
• 43:03
  Speaker 9: But if you can just go in that same body
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: of water and catch walleye like walley' is gonna taste
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: way better.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, understand, plenty of walleye. So right now, what h
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: right now? Tell me where you're at right now and
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: with your season and everything, what will be the next
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: like what fishing trip? What's your next fishing trip you
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: got planned? Like, what will be the next outing you do?
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: I'm debating right now.
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: We're right now, we're fighting for a playoff spot, and
• 43:29
  Speaker 9: the schedules just insane. After the Olympics, it's every other day,
• 43:32
  Speaker 9: so fighting time is pretty difficult. But we're debating on
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: our next off day, trying to sneak out go ice
• 43:39
  Speaker 9: fishing or if that doesn't work out, April first, I
• 43:42
  Speaker 9: got an off day in Dallas. I'm trying to talk
• 43:45
  Speaker 9: them into flying in early so I can take a
• 43:48
  Speaker 9: guide out. But if that's not the case, I'll just
• 43:51
  Speaker 9: have someone pick me up and we'll just go beat
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: the bank with the traveler on.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, Man, I bet you you have some guys from
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Dallas listen to the show, probably hitting you up with
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: fishing spots.
• 44:00
  Speaker 9: Man, probably will, And let's keep those secrets all right.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Connor, thanks so much for joining on, man, Thank you
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: for the win. It really was like it was such
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: a fun day, dude, and it was people were so
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: happy and just seeing everybody in the airport and and
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: uh seeing my buddy, Max so happy. Everybody felt good.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I was in such a good mood. I got home.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: My kids thought something was wrong with me. I made
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: him watched highlights from the nineteen eighties game, so I
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: was like, this, will you'll help. You'll understand why your
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: dad's so emotional that we just won another gold medal
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: in hockey. So that's great, man, Thank thank you so
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: much for joining to have a good fishing trip in Dallas.
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: Buddy, Thanks, no problem, glad to be here.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Thanks Connor, thank you, no problem, guys.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, how to our next story. Two California men charged.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: This is breaking news to California men charged for shattering
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: a two hundred thousand dollars mammoth tusk at a museum.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: They were at the Ancient Ozark's Natural History Museum in Brandson, Missouri.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: There's a big mammoth skeleton with big tusks, two hundred
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: pound tusks. One of these guys, apparently, and I understand,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: gets up on his buddy's shoulders because he wants to
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: get a picture or something of him hanging from that
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: tusk and shattered it. They're like, got arrested. When I say,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: I understand when I'm in a museum. All I can
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: think about is touching everything and getting stuff out, getting
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: stuff out? Who doesn't want it?
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Rand on me?
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: And we're in a museum and they had a tepee
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: you couldn't go into it. What did we talk about
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: that we wanted to do?
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: Oh like two hours after we'd left that museum, you're
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: still talking about how you wanted to climb inside of
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: the tepee just to see how it felt.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'm saying, when I'm at a museum, I'm like,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: sure like to get that out and have a look.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I sure like to fiddle with that, right, I understand.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: But the difference between me and these gentlemen.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: They weren't fiddling with it. They were going to try
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: to do a He.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Was trying to hang from it. Todd as a Vedo
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: and Brett Howard.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: What an embarrassing way to have embarrassing I mean, such
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: a weird of judgment. Do you think they were drunk?
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah? I was gonna say their faces look a little
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: puffy here.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: That's just the look you get when you're arrested. Maybe
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: because most people that are arrested are drunk. The relation
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: like just if I'm saying I walk through museums. The
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: main thing I'm thinking about is ways in which I
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: wish I could have allowed to violate the museum's rule.
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: Right, But then there's another party do it saying do
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: you think if I did that there would be consequences?
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, But I'm like, do I wish I could just
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: have at it in the museum? Yes?
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: So they broke a two hundred thousand dollars tusk.
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, what do you think.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Trying to hang from it and shattered a two hundred
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: pound mammoth tusk. It's a good question, though, Yanny, what
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: was the question? Even?
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: How much? What do you think the punishment should be?
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: It's going to be reparations that they'll never be able
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: to afford. Probably she'll just have to live the rest
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: of his life knowing that he owes that museum a
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: ton of money or something.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: I should have to like sweep up that museum for
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: the rest of his life.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, you want to know something nuts, my brother Danny.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: They were not doing their work. He works in Alaska,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: he's a salmon biologist. They were out doing their work.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you kind of where he was.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: I don't actually know where he was. He says, way
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: up there's a giant cutbank, and he said, hanging out
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: of that cut bank is a big man with tusk.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: They didn't even touch it.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Well he can't legally, not just.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Him, you can't. Yeah, but I mean, how many guys
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: would have been like, well, let's just go touch it.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm guessing they maybe gott I don't know.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I know that he couldn't. It was federal land. And
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: he said, the way it was positioned, you would have
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: had to rig up. You'd have had to bush rig
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: a ladder, it was so high up a cut bank.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: But he said just hanging out of the cut bank.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: So the proper steps would be, like you would have
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: to contact the managing agency and inform them of this
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: for them to collect it or do something.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: You're not under an obligation yet it.
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but there's rules about like fossils over I mean,
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: Spencer probably knows this morning, there's rules about fossils over
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: a certain size, I think.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: And I don't know what made Maybe he did, maybe
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: he did report it, but he didn't touch it. And
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: he wasn't allowed to touch it, and he said, need
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: if you wanted to touch it would have been a
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: real project because he said it was way up a
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: cut bank.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Next rainstorm, it might just disappear.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: No, sure it'll get cut.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all those ones people find in the riverbeds are
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: obviously a road. Now Brody Long the Long overdue for
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: sales band report from Brody.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Yep, Colorado for a band. I'm sure a lot of
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: people have heard about this, but I'll give like background then,
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: like what's going on? What could happen in the future.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: They tried this thing in the city of Denver a
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: few years ago, four or five years ago, I think
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: it was to ban the sale of for products in
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: the city of Denver, and then it went away and
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: now it came back. So what the deal is. It's
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: a proposed statewide rule to prohibit the commercial saile, barter
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: or trade of wild animal or fur products in Colorado,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: the state of Colorado. So like typical species like fur, bear,
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: species like beaver, fox, bobcat, martin, muskrat, stuff like that,
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: but not beaver. Beaver's in there.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Well when you get to the really dumb part.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Anyway, the proposal doesn't ban trapping or hunting, but
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: you know, obviously it's going to undermine the economic viability
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: of certain businesses in Colorado. You might be wondering who
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: started this and how it happened. And it's weird because
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: this isn't like the cat hunting thing that happened last
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: year in Colorado, which was a ballot measure. Under Colorado,
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: a lot citizens can petition the state wildlife rulemaking body
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: to like just create or change regulations. So you could
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: like go to the Wildlife Commission in Colorado and be like,
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: I think I should be able to two meal deer
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: bucks a year, and then they'd say yay or nay.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: You know, have a process that that would go through.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: This particular proposal was submitted bias citizen named Samantha Miller,
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: who works for the Wildlife Adverasy advocacy group.
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: That's a good good way to describe.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: It, I guess Center for Biological Diversity, which we talked
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: about last week. It's one of those groups that gives
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: themselves a serious name, you know, but they're actually like
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: an animal rights activist group.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're the worst, well not the worst, but
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: among them.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: And Samantha Miller was also the person who was largely
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: in charge of the cats Aren't Trophies thing that went
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: didn't go through in Colorado last year. So we already
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: talked about like restrict all commercial fur sales, like how
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: it reached the commission, and like this is almost a
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: story of like a rogue Wildlife Commission as much as
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: anything else, because on March fourth, so a little over
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: a week ago, Colorado Parks and Wildlife voted. The Commission
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: voted six to four to advance a citizen position that
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: would ban the commercial sale of wild animal for Apparently
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: this this like process was very chaotic, a lot of
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: people didn't really know what they were voting on. It
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: seems like there's a lot of confusion and anger and
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: discuss Like in the meeting, there are several hundred people
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: there from the public, hunters, anglers, trappers that opposed this measure.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: Uh cpw's new director, she like came out and said,
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: we do not believe that this is a good thing
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: to do. There's no biological justify justification for doing so.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: And that was said before the meeting.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: As they pointed out, there's no there is no population
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: level impact.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: For so after hours of public comment and debate, they
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: the commission votes six to four to go forward with it.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: If you want to look up the names of those commissioners,
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: you can. They're they're tied closely to They're appointed by
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: Governor Polus. They're they're tied closely to Polus is tied
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: closely to some animal rights measures. Uh, these people are
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: as well, and they kind of just did their own thing,
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: which is which is sad. So if this thing goes through,
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: the impacts to businesses like a big one would be
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: the fly fishing, like retail business, fly tying. Like you
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: walk into a fly shop, you'll see an entire wall
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: of fly tying materials and a lot of those have
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: fur in them for hair from muskrats, beavers, rabbits, and.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: A lot of them carry the name of it.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, some other stuff would be apparel, cowboy
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: hats would.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Be any But that's what's so stupid about this go ahead.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: What's so stupid about it is when you make when
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: you make a cowboy hat, like a high quality beaver
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: wolf felt cowboy hat, you take a beaver pelt, you
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: throw away the leather, you throw away the guard hair
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: and you take the underfur and compress it into felt.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: They're saying, well, that's okay because that's cowboy hats. But
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: if you took a beaver pelt, you can sell that
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: cowboy hat. You can throw away the leather, throw away
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: the guard hairs make it unrecognizable. Cool, But should you
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: take the beaver pelt and just sew it into a hat?
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Not cool? Exactly, that's illegal. And then there it is
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: so as nine.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that kind of gets to like supply chain issues.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: A lot of taxidermy projects would also be affected by
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: this thing, so it's uh, it could packed a lot
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: a lot of different areas.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: And they can't figure out how to write The problem
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: now is they can't figure out how to write the rule. No,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: it's so chaotic and full of contradictions.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So like what happens next is bottom line is
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: it's not lie yet. It's in the rule development.
• 55:17
  Speaker 8: The vote.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: What it did was move it forward into the like
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: rule development and public comment stage, So the Wildlife Commission
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: has to have another vote before the band takes effect.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: So that's going to happen. Then Colorado Parks and Wildlife
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: would have to like draft proposed rules, which they'd also
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: have to debate on what the rules would actually be,
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: if there'd be any exceptions in the rules, like they
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: might carve out an exception for fly time materials or
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: something like that.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, well yeah, they'll carve out exceptions. Yeah, so
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: they want to be that there's all this stuff is
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: cool to use fur for unless it's like visibly fur
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: on a person's body, like you know what the the
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: indigenous people that lived in Colorado traditionally war, that would
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: be illegal.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Now if you want to run around like a dude
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: rancher and a cowboy hat, you're a okay.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, buckskin pants, like probably not not god because you
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: know why, because you threw the hair away, right, it
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: wouldn't be a product.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: So it is then you can sell that.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: It's you know, it's just another another attempt to make
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: our life more difficult.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Dude, that guy like.
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: That.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: It's not just Jared, like Jared Pole is turned out,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: it's not even just him. It's his husband, right, who's
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: like a big animal, right exactly exactly.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: But these people are appointed by Polus. They've done they've
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: gone kind of rogue on things before. This is another
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: example of that. Hopefully when polus turns out, we'll get
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: a new wildlife commission in there that is going to
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: be friendlier to hunters and anglers and people like us.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: The timeline for this is next meeting is in May
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: of twenty twenty six, so we'll no more in a
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: couple months, and they'll have to vote and adopt, modify,
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: or reject it, so we'll see what happened.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: What makes me mad is that think about what's not
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: getting done. They could be getting done and it would
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: be positive for wildlife.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: This is not serious work.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Instead, they got to be dealing with this BS.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, brody, Am I right that the public can show
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: up for this next meeting? It's May fourth or fifth
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: part I.
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: Don't have the exact date, just as May twenty six
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: in Grand Junction. So yeah, for any of those commissioned meetings,
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: the public can always show up.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Can I hate with another added little deal here? That's
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: kind of like what makes us infuriating? Years ago, like
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: many many years ago, back in the mid nineties, I
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: think early nineties, late nineties, Colorado effectively like ban trapping
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: on public lane. So you used to have like regulated
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: trapp What they then did is like what do you
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: do about all the guys that have depredation issues, and
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: they have have like problem, beaver's problem, whatever. So they
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: make the system by which a private landowner can go
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: be like hey, I got a beaver problem. Then they're like, oh, okay,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: then it's no holds barred, no seasons, no equipment restrictions whatever. Okay,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: then you can go get them. Now they're saying, but
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: you have to throw the hide in the trash because currently,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: if someone has a beaver issue and they bring in
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: a trapper to do it, the trapper can take the
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: product and sell it and it could be used for
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: all manner of things, including cowboy hats. This is like no, no, no,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: you got to throw in the garbage.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy, you can't sell it.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like it's like that stuff like Mamber in Australia,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: they have all those like kangaroo depredation things, and then
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: one day they go like, oh and also you got
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: to leave it to rot. Yeah, if you get it,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: you got to leave it to rot. You can't touch
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: it that and like.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: I'd love to say, this is just a bunch of
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: bullshit and it's not going to go through. But man,
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: these days you just don't know in Colorado, what could happen?
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: How could that place of like well, I know how
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: it happened. How could have state like of such? I
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: mean like John Denver.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: Dude, yep, John Denver. Yeah, biggest elkcurred in the country.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I know. Someone said like it was like the minute,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: the minute, more people lived in Fort Collins and Denver
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: than it did the rest of the state.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Boom, yep.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Try like that's when you know, yeah, Rocket Mountain.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: So normally in my beloved state of Colorado, I'm all
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: about it.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: But this, oh dude, listen, man, I love the place,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: love the place, love the people. This is not about that,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: just about you got to take your state back, dude.
• 59:52
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good lord.
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: So we'll check back in and may and see see
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: what's going on with it.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe someday on the road, instead of crazy left wing people,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: we'll be bitching about crazy right wing people running Colorado
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: and into the ground.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: I don't think so, like it would go the way
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: of Utah right now.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Just whatever, Yeah, like it'll be like all of a sudden,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you get a state where it's just
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: it's just it's just the seesaw, but I don't know
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: if it'll ever swing. Yeah, it's the swing. The swing
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: kills me. Yep. All right, Randall, good news for us.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: Been a good news. Actually this is a great news. Yeah. So,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: the the Commerce Department manages fisheries and federal waters three
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: I guess it's some like three miles off shore or
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: something like that, and they are poised to seed management
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: authority to the states of North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: and Florida when it comes to red snapper.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: How did they lose? Is this in your report? How
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: did they lose management? Well?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: I think, I mean, I think Commerce and like Noah,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: I've managed these historically since like Magnus Stevenson. Yeah, but
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: and I think like the reauthorization of Magnus Stevenson put
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: and I could be watching this, but I think it
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: became like more rigid quotas and sort of season setting
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: on harvest and red snapper, and so what's going to
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: happen I guess under the federal system. The short version
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: is that they're managing with like very broad strokes because
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: they don't have the very detailed like recreational angler catch,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, so much of marine fisheries just comes down
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: to data, and so they would these states would end
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: up with a very short season, like only a day,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: two days, three days, something like that.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: Real small limits too.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And and so essentially the states want authority to
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: manage it with more data. They're going to take some
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: elements of like the federal management structure and some of
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: the information that is good on that side, but supplement
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: it with sort of like the equivalent of creole surveys.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: And a more fine tuned picture what's happened in the moment.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And the result of that is that we're gonna
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: have we the hunting a fishing community. They're gonna have
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: longer seasons. So like in Florida, I think they're talking
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: about a thirty nine day season. The Carolinas are looking
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: like at a sixty day season.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: Can I have a question, were the Feds like the
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: Feds were managing like under the assumption that there wasn't
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: a lot of them and we shouldn't be taking a
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: lot of them in the states are like, there's actually
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: a lot more of these things than or is that not?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 11: No?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: I think it was more. I think it was more
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: that they just I mean they didn't really know how
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: many people were actually fishing for them, So like that's
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 6: one of the changes. So the bigger context is that
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: this has already happened in the Gulf, and so the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: South Atlantic states are sort of gonna move to what's
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: happening in the Golf and that's been very successful. And
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 6: part of the reason for that is that they're they're
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 6: keeping track of who's actually fishing for snapper. So they're
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: they're I don't know if you'd call it a permit,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: but like endorsements for snapper fishing. So they know, Okay,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: all these guys that are buying saltwater licenses, this chunk
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: of them are fishing for speckled trout, and they're targeting
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: inshore species, and only this sliver of them is are
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: targeting red snapper and grouper and things like that. So
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: so essentially, with more refined data, they have a better
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: sense of what the pressure on the resources, and they
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: you know, in some states, I think Louisiana, like they
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: some of them do weekly email updates and phone calls
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: to people with the snapper endorsement. Some states, I think Alabama, Mississippi,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: like they actually know how many are being caught because
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 6: there's only a certain number of boat launches that people
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: will go out of fish snappers. So it's it's taking
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: like the big, unwieldy federal Marine Fisheries apparatus and handing
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: it to the state so that the states can get
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: better data and make better decisions for the resource and
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: for anglers.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Because you're an anecdote, please, I've fished a number of
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: years recently, a number of years in a row spearfishing
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: for red snapper in Louisiana, and what's been surprising to
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: me down there is like that adaptive management strategy, how
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: fluid it is. Meaning when I was a kid growing up,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: like a Michigan you could spend your entire lifetime fishing
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: under a management structure being that you know, whatever the
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: season starts this day, it ends this day. The bag
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: limit is this many, the minimum weight, the minimum length
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: is this, and decades go by right and it's just
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: how it is right right fish in Louisiana, it's like
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: constantly being adjusted as the red snapper season and like
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Kobia too be like there's like a vessel, there's a
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: changing vessel limit, there's changing opening day and closing day,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: there's changing closed days as you realize that they're looking
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: at these data sets and they're like opening closing, opening
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: closing and playing it like a like an instrument.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: That Washington too. Isn't it for a lot of stuff?
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it could. I'm not saying it's not. It
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: could be. That was an example of stuff to me, like, man,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: this is not like this is like very up to date,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: like what's going on? And how are we like manipulating harvest?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's a hundred.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 6: Similar to what they do with salmon like in Alaska,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: you know, like that they have data and they're tracking
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: pressure on the resource. But yeah, the like the federal
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: system is based on long term trends and an absence
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 6: of real like fine data, and so by giving it
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: to the states, like they're going to be intercepting people
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: at boat launches and like keeping track of how many
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 6: days this week did you fish? How many fish did
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: you get?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: I think everybody thinks it's a win win. There's probably
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: some objections from the like ocean conservancy crowd who would
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 6: rather see like more like tightly regulated marine fishery. Yeah,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: and like they just don't really want like an open
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: access fishery. I mean that's sort of the general speaking
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: very generally, that's sort of what that crowd would like.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: But well, it's it's the states. It's like, it's the
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: states to pull it off or not. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: you know, if they run, if they if they screw
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: it up and they get too aggressive on harvest and
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: they run them into the ground, right, there's very low
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: incentive to do that because once you do that, you're
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: gonna wind up right back where you started. Yeah.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: And I mean, based on what I was told, I
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: I talked to former colleague at t RCP this morning
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: to just explain this all to me. Oh, man Randall
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 6: doing Actually, Oh he's a good guy.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: I just like it.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: I like to going on the phone with him. Yeah,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: Chris mclusso good guy. And he was saying, like, man,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: what's happening in the Gulf is great. It's great, and
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 6: it's going to be a huge win for these states
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: if this goes through. And I think most of the
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: evidence points in the right direction here, So Florida, I
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 6: think if this goes through, Florida would open Memorial Day
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: weekend and they would have like a thirty nine day
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 6: season and then maybe after that some weekends here and there.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: So Semac was telling me that with a one or
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: two day season, if the weather's not right, you know,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: people kind of want to go out there anyway. And
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: this way anglers can pick their days and it sort
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: of distributes the pressure more widely.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: And yeah, just a bit of.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: Bright news in the landscape of Colorado for a band
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: and all this other junk.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Spencer, I'm gonna circle back to the muskrat thing first.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: This is from the Roman Catholic Church. The Lenten season
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: has been observed from the onset of the church, although
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: there have been inconsistencies with duration and practices. It goes
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: on to talk about how different churches at different eras
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: had different rules and sometimes they had a fasting where
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: you lived like a vegan. Sometimes they had a version
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: where you could have a snack after three pm. Sometimes
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: they had only Sundays or when you could eat meat.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: So whatever was going on with this Detroit parish that
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: had resorted to eat and hey, you'd imagine that their
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: rules were that you couldn't eat meat for a certain
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: amount of time, obviously a long period, but you could
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: eat fish so that's how that comes into play for them.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: I'm sure we already got ten correction emails.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Well you know what, I'm going to hit rand with
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: and get me set of them boots. He said, hunters
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: and ag will see longer seasons.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: Did I say that or did I say we meeting
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: the hunting and angling community?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Maybe you said are anglers?
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: Randall can correct your correction. I've got news from the
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: Hawkeye say listen up, Iwegians. The Iowa DNAR needs your help.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: They are seeking volunteers right now who will go listen
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: for frog and toad calls this spring and summer. This
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: is a survey they've been doing since nineteen ninety one. Basically,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: what happens is volunteers drive around at night and they
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: listen for amphibian vocalizations in your wet areas. They then
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: submit their findings via email to the DNR, and they
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: ask that each volunteer spends about eight hours in total
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: between April and July listening for frog and toad calls.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: These surveys take place in rural and urban areas, so
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: don't think that if you live in Des Moines, Sioux City,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: that you're of no help. That they would love you
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: to volunteer. In twenty twenty five, volunteers surveyed nine hundred
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: different wetlands. The d n R said that they were
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: thrilled with everyone's participation, but that there are three counties
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty six that are most in need of volunteers.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: These three counties have not had a frog or toad
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: or toad survey in years. Those are Ida, Henry, and Right.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: So if you're in Ida, Henry or Wright County, you're
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 5: exactly who they want.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: Load up the kids. Your country needs you. Yeah, they
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: need an e bird app for amphibians.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: I imagine that has to like be something they could
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: make tomorrow.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: I fogged them about that when I was at Cornell
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: meeting with the people that developed the developed Merlin. I
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: was like, you put all kinds of stuff in there.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: Nice thing about this. You could go do some night
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: fishing wire.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: I mean I would something I would say as a joke,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: but I mean it very earnest this time. This would
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: be a great date night. It would get a bottle
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: kind drive response.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: To hey, baby, I'll think we go down to that
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: big old swamp bottle.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: The bullfrogs, Well, it's the bullfrog jugger rum jugger.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: It's a great it's a great filter for your potential
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: girlfriend or whatever, if she's willing to do that, all right,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: skilled to have.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: To just be able to you know, that's a good
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: life skill that anybody could benefit from me.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think it would be a first date. Yeah,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: maybe a blind date and be a good blind date.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: But if you were dating like someone you kind of knew, yeah,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. From the coffee shop, I could see that, yeah,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: but a blind date.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 6: From that to the frog survey, I know, because.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: She'd be like, no, no, no, no, here's what happens, man,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go way out in that swamp and listen.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: Eventually this would become a youth No one's gonna go We're.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Gonna go survey frogs tonight. Yeah.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. If my like boy said he was going
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: out to survey frogs, no you're not. That's like the
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: hillbilly version.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: Now there are sixteen different frogs and toads you'll be
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: listening for. If you're in Iowa. To learn how to
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: identify these calls, you attend a virtual or in person workshop.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: Every workshop is currently full besides the last one that
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: takes place on April thirteenth in Okeboji sixteen.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: I would not have guessed that sixteen as many.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: Why it's relevant, a recent USGS study predicts that in
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: twenty years, amphibians will be gone from half of the
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: places where they currently live. So this is a cool
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: opportunity to do some citizen science help Iowa gather data
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: on amphibians, which are really sensitive to habitat loss invasive
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: species pollution. But I want to test you guys now,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: I want to see how well you can do without
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: any training at all. I'm going to tell you I'm
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: going to play around three of the most common frog
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: and toad calls, not only in Iowa but in North America.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: You guys are going to guess what they are. So
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: Phil play the first one for us.
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  Speaker 6: That's a frog.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: Spring people?
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: If you know, I'll tell you there's a spring peeper
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: in the background.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: But that's not the foreward call. That there he is.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: There are spring peepers. Like I said, that's not the
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: foreward I don't.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: Know that guy. A green frog, yeah, green frog like
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: a banjo frog.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: No is it a toad?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: It is?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: It's an American toe got it. That was an American toe.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: Here's how their call is described, high pitched trill that
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: lasts about fifteen seconds.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Sounds like a sharp, elongated.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: Cry picture sometimes described as sounding like the bleat of
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: a sheet. Now we're going to play it again and
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: you can watch it. Make the call this time so
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: you can see the American toad. Crep Spencer's on it.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, I remember of those things. I think I've stepped
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: on those in my mon the spring when it would rain.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 6: His throat looks like the nut jerky that that guy makes.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: It looks a lot like that.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: So that is the American.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: That's one of those animals. Like when you hear the
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: sound and you see the animal, you don't put the
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: two to you.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: No, not at all.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: Let's go on number two, number two, play Phil my
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: old buddy.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like to eat him.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can find some good giggin spots taking this
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: project too.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that that is a an American bullfrog. That Their
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: call is described as a deep and loud call, a
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: sequence that sounds like it's saying juggle rum, juggle rum.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Because you didn't get him, really kick an ass on
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: that little clip you had.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: It resembles the moo of cattle, which is why they're
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: called bullfrogs. Show us the clip again, Phil, Oh.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, old mister yellow throat, the man with the yellow throat. Cool.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: They used to catch the things go a fly.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: Yep, that's a that's a low yield animal, right there.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: Man. All right, you guys got one out of two.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: Let's see how you do it number three.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: I think I'm about done. Unfortunately, play it out of me.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Grand frog not a green frog, tree frog, no, let
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: It is a left.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: Specifically specifically, that's a northern leopard frog. Their call is
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 5: described as a deep, rattling snore that lasts two to
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: three seconds, followed by a chuckling sound like a heavy
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: creaking door slowly opening opening. Also sounds like two balloons
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 5: being rubbed together.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: Again, Phil, play it again, Phil, Man, I should have
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: got these right, because my son, sorry, Dan Markt say
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: you can talk now.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: I think we got it.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: My son's preschool had a frog night where they would
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: take you out and we would review the sounds of
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: all the frogs and then peruse this nature reserve that
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: the school was on and try to identify and find
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: the frogs.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: By something and cook them up. We didn't do that far.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: For more information, go to Iowa d n R dot
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: gov or just google the Iowa Frog and Toad Survey.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: Hit me with the counties again where they need your help?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: Ada, Henry and right, Henry and Wright, Hey.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Grab your gigs.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: This this story is extra close to home for me
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: because I own a frog and I, in an attempt
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: to sex it, I played vocalizations in my house to
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: see if it would call back. Because for frogs and toads,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: the vast vast majority of calling that you hear is
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: done by males. Females usually don't participate, and so I
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: have sexed my frog as a female because it's never
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: participated in my calling sequences.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: Didn't you end up with that thing? Like by mistake?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 5: My wife this was two februaries ago, February twenty twenty four,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: bought a rubber tree at Low's that she brought home.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: She was replanting it in our garage and out of
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: the root came this frog that was like, I'm not
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: kidding you. This big at the time, and so she
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: called me panicked. I think I was at the office
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: here and she said, what do I do? I'm like, well,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: I could I could take care of it, or we
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: could keep it. Oh, and she elected to keep it.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: And I've been a very good frog dad ever since.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 8: I couldn't take.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: Care of it.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: Have you figured out if it's an illegal species to
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: have it is?
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 10: Uh?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: It is a Pacific chorus frog. Here's here is how
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: I've determined that this frog came into our possession with
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: no evidence at all.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: It's a Pacific chorus frog, also known as a Pacific
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: tree frog. Their range stretches from like south Alaska to
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: northern California, but sort of the core of it even
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: a little bit, a little bit and very new with
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: west Montana.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: The core of their range is organ.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 5: Organ is the number one producer of Christmas trees in
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 5: the country. Lows sells a lot of Christmas trees. I
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 5: think this frog came in on a Christmas tree, bailed
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: from that Christmas tree, crawled into the rubber tree that
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: my wife bought two months later, and that's how it got.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Man, if we get that song bitch on the podcast,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: it's a happy little frog.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Phil's got a video of it.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: This is my my Pacific chorus frog that lives in
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: my living room. Now we can hear another podcast.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: You're listening to something name is sprout. It's it's a female.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: Back in the old days, try to catch a large mouth.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great segment, steel fingers, very quickly.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: Unbelievably good segment there.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: It was fun.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 6: This is the second episode in a row where the
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 6: segment after me has received high praise.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: It's not us, it's you.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 8: I just want to point that out.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 6: Once it goes around the horn and everybody's got in
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 6: praise except for me, that's when I'll take it to heart.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: I'm reporting on a thing called seal finger. The State
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: of Alaska Section of Epidemiology defines it as a finger
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: infection associated with bites, cuts, or scratches contaminated by the mouths, blood,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: or blubber of certain marine mammals. The reason we're talking
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: about it is because last fall a young man that
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: was skinning an Alaska brown bear contracted it. Okay, not
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: something new. It's been around for a long time, but
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: I think it's been misdiagnosed. They didn't know a lot
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: about it until just over like the last ten to
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: fifteen years. Back in the day, seal hunters, coastal fishmen
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: everybody was extremely scared of it because the way to
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: get rid of seal finger.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: What really, Yeah, like it's coming for you.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: It's coming for you. Like you're just gonna end up,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: like it's gonna be stiff and plump for a while
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: and eventually they're gonna say cut it off.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: It's gonna spread. It's like, dang, green man, that does
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: not look good.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's right, here we go. We got some
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: pictures of it.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: What I keep thinking about is when we were at
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: your shack last year and Heather brought them yep, like
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: man handle those.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. It's problematic because it's when you first
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: get it. It just this is I think these are case.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: The pictures are showing cases that have gone on for
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: a while and become more extreme versions of the symptoms.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: Because in the beginning, it's going to be a scratch
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: that has some inflammation basically, right, or a cut with
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: some inflammation, and so you go to the doctor and
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: they're like, Okay, here's some antibiotics, topical or whatever. Everything
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: that I read about people that got messed up about
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: it was just this that they would leave and then
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: ten days later be like, oh my God, the young
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: man that got it from the bear, he actually came back.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: I can't remember it was two weeks or he had
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: a bunch of trips to the hospital, but at one
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: point has like a fever and like an increased heart
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: rate from it. It can basically get in your bones
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: and start like like making like this, like very rapid
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: arthritis come about. So the anibi that does antibiotic that
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: does do it is docs the cycling. So the most
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: common people that actually get it now are people that
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: like scuba divers, people that work in zoos that mess
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: with marine animals. They could get bitten or whatever. And
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: if that happens, say at a zoo, I forget what
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: do it was, but they basically said if you get
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: bit there, you get handed a letter. So when you
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: go to the hospital they know how to deal with
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: it and be like don't give them the regular antibiotics
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: because they ain't gonna do nothing. Like you need to
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: make sure you're giving these antibiotics.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: Thing, I got my wallet.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: I got a question for you, honest after see, this
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: is important question.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: It's like a magic check or what.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Man, it's like this card. Oh, you keep it your
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: wallet by your ID they gave it to me at
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: a at They gave it to me at the at
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Coronel and it says like, hey, heads up, man, this
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: guy's into all kinds of weird stuff.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're like a high risk individual.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, Wow, it's like if you if you fiddle
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: around hunting stuff all time or whatever, or doing like
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: what you're talking about. It says, take note check him
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: for all the weird stuff.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: Well, you probably have.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: How do we get our hands on that?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: You probably have instances where had you had this card previously,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: it would have helped.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: Right, I've had to go in and tell a guy
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: I had a thing and he had never heard of it,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: and he wrote it down and left the room for
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: a while.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: You're honest. The bear Do they think that it's always
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: been in bears or bears pick it up for meat
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: and rotten seals the ladder?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh, it from a coastal.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: Brown bears scavenging. You know, hard to say exactly. The
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: hunter did say that his knife had come in contact
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: with the bear's mouth and teeth prior to him getting
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: the cut, But again, I mean he skinned the entire animals,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: so it's hard to say exactly where what how.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: What's interesting about these kind of these dis ailment and
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: things like tickborn in factions is the delay, right, it
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: is long enough for oftentimes people will not put it together.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think there's a delay, you said, He says,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: could be ten days. Well, I think that you're getting
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: symptoms immediate you do. Oh yeah, yeah for sure, like
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: you're getting this pain and the swelling. But but it's
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: going to start doing worse things as it goes.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it could probably be mistaken for just like, oh, it's.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: Just that, yeah, exactly exactly, and then it gets problematic
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: because it's been it's been misdiagnosed, or the wrong antibiotic
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: has been given to it. Now, I called Heather Deville,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: who lives in a marine environment, talks to a lot
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: of people that, you know, mess around with these animals.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: She herself, I think last year killed like one hundred
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: and twenty five sea otters. She has not experienced, like,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: doesn't know anybody has no first or secondhand experience. And
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: when she went around and asked a few people about it,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: they're like, never heard of it. OK, So it doesn't
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: sound like it's very common.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: That's why you come here to get the relevant news.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, State of Alaska recommends wearing nitil gloves
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: and maybe even cut proof gloves if you're going to be,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: you know, dealing with you know, seals, sea lions, otters,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: that sort of thing. But yeah, because like you said,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: you'd mess around with a bunch of crazy stuff. There's
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: chances that you could end up with some crazy, but
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: it's not common.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: Great job, Yanni.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: Speaking of messing with stuff, are you okay if I
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: read this to.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: The to the notes were low on time.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: Did you get it before after COVID that card after
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: or before?
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: I think it'd be better if it's a punch card,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: like at a coffee shop.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: So when you get shit, they just said, that's pretty good.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: Okay. I was gonna do a big report on a
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: record setting cat prices, but in the interesting time, I'm
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: not going to. However, if you happen to be catching
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: yourself near, you know, messing around on YouTube, I invite
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: you to go watch our video called Steven Seth get
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: rich off Bobcats. In there we go do a Bobcat sale.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: At that sale, we cover what we got for some
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: cats and what my buddy mercer got from some cats,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: so we didn't mention in there is that the top
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: cat at that auction went for twenty eight hundred dollars.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: Then the next auction a week later in Idaho, a
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: cat went for drum roll please, Oh, I wasn't ready
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: for this, thirty five noise again, thirty five hundred bucks.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: On to Mark Kenyon, all right, I've got two pieces
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: of news.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: In the interest of time, I'll try to keep it
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: pretty brief, but a little bit of controversy in the
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: internet related to some comments from our Secretary of the Interior,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: Doug Bergham Eddie Blackrock Summit about infrastructure.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: He answered a.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: Question and insinuated in this response that those who are
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: concerned about protecting our public lands and worried about resource
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  Speaker 2: extraction on them that they are not financially literate.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's the problem. Yeah, So if I just read
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  Speaker 1: up more on economics, I would I would be much
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  Speaker 1: happier to see us run out of wild places and
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  Speaker 1: clean waters. Just that I'm dumb about the money exactly.
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  Speaker 2: That that's That's been a little bit unhappy about that one.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's great that he brought this up
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  Speaker 2: because it gives us a very very good excuse to
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  Speaker 2: talk about the incredible financial implications of outdoor recreation and
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  Speaker 2: conservation of our public lands. A report just came out
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  Speaker 2: last week that showed that the outdoor recreation economy is
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  Speaker 2: now driving a record one point three trillion dollars of
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  Speaker 2: economic impact. One point three trillion dollars of economic impact.
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  Speaker 2: Much of that obviously depends on federal public lands.
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  Speaker 1: Did you see me get uncomfortable for mente? I did,
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  Speaker 1: But let me know when you hear me out, you
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  Speaker 1: want to know why.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, hear me out. Take it back to last fall.
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  Speaker 2: Another study came out that looked at what they can
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  Speaker 2: tie directly to federal public LANs, and that was one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and twenty eight billion dollars a year directly tied
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  Speaker 2: to outdoor recreation on federal public lands alone. That's three
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen million dollars of economic impact a day
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  Speaker 2: from the ripple effects, the trickle out effect of outdoor
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  Speaker 2: recreation of all types.
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  Speaker 3: What is all these places?
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  Speaker 2: That's a great question. I'm not good at that in math.
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  Speaker 2: So if you look at that compared to the other research,
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  Speaker 2: the other ways that we make money, or that there's
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  Speaker 2: economic impact from republic lands.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, resource extraction on our multiple use public lands is important.
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  Speaker 2: There's strong value there, like the secretary was speaking about.
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  Speaker 1: But if you look at the GDP.
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  Speaker 2: Contribution of outdoor recreation, two point four percent of the
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  Speaker 2: entire US GDP tied to outdoor recreation. That is more
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  Speaker 2: than double gas and oil. That's more than mining. Mining's
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  Speaker 2: contribution is one point five percent. Oil and gas azer
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  Speaker 2: point nine percent contribution to the entire GDP of the
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  Speaker 2: United States, So very very high.
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  Speaker 3: But if we drilled more on those public lands, we
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  Speaker 3: can make that number go up.
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  Speaker 1: That's why. That's why. Well, I don't like, I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying. But if someone came to me and said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I did some math, your kids are actually costing you money, yep, well,
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  Speaker 1: I would be like, well, get them sons of bitches
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  Speaker 1: out of here. It's like, some things are bigger than that.
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  Speaker 1: So I understand when people do it. But if you
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  Speaker 1: came to me and said, oh, you know, we ran
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  Speaker 1: the number public lands, clean air, clean water, all that
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  Speaker 1: stuff is costly, I'd be like cool, I don't care, yep.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like I get it, But I also, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, I don't want to like engage.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I don't necessarily feel like engaging in the
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  Speaker 1: financial conversation of it, because if someone proved the opposite,
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't change my opinion. So I feel like it's
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  Speaker 1: disingenuous to act like that's why I'm interested in wilderness.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think the key is that you bring that
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  Speaker 2: is just one part of the conversation, like, hey, here's this,
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  Speaker 2: and then there's also what about the ecosystem services of
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: those landscapes, like what they are providing that I should
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  Speaker 2: have found this, but there is some data they've been
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: trying to actually quantify what the economic value is that
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: clean air provides. Like if we had to filter the
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  Speaker 2: air the equivalent that our trees do, or if we
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: had to clean water instead of you know, the forest
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: filtering through that or whatever it might be, what would
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  Speaker 2: that cost us to replace that with technology?
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  Speaker 1: It's insane have.
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  Speaker 3: To be a part of the rebuttal to someone saying, right,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: you're financially it has to.
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  Speaker 4: Be that because those people aren't interested in the social value.
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  Speaker 1: I understand, I understand, I understand. I'm just sharing privately here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm one hundred percent with you. I'm private, I'm
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: sharing privately.
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  Speaker 2: Why that makes me nervous? So I hate to do
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: this too, but we got to talk money one more time.
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  Speaker 1: Please.
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  Speaker 10: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: This is a little bit of and you can look
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: at this as bad news like some of the other
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: things we've talked about, or good depends on I guess
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: if you're glass half full or half empty, guy.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: But there is a.
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  Speaker 2: Situation, a threat, slash opportunity in central North Carolina that
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: is worth getting on people's radar. There is a reservoir
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: on the Yatkin River. It's called the Tuckertown Reservoir, and
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: on either side of that reservoir there has historically been
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: a bunch of public land lands open to the public
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: to hunt and fish. These have been privately owned lands
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: by ELCOA, and they least to the North Carolina Fish
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: and Wildlife Service to keep that open to the public. Recently,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: they've decided they can no longer do that. They are
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: selling these lands, put them on the open market and
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: going to be put them up for sales with right now.
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  Speaker 2: That's four thousand acres of historically open to the public
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: hunting and fishing land that could potentially be sold off
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: and be taken out of public access.
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  Speaker 1: That's the half empty part. That's the half empty part.
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  Speaker 2: The half full part is that there has been a
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  Speaker 2: really strong push by local Land Trust and a number
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  Speaker 2: of other partners now looking to try to build a
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: campaign of interest not just in North Carolina but across
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  Speaker 2: the country to buy these lands and then donate them
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  Speaker 2: to the state to be public land officially and in perpetuity.
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  Speaker 2: And so starting to get some interest and some steam.
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  Speaker 2: You can go to trlt dot org or just just
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: google Save Tuckertown. Tuckertown is the campaign kind of name
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: around this. It's very interesting. I think it's a great
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: opportunity here for the public to jump in and make
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: a difference here. And I can tease for you that
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: we Meat Eater and our partners on x are brainstorming
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: and spitballing and working on a way to help out
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: as well. So so stay tuned on that front. But
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at this as a glass half full, because
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: I think we can make a difference.
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  Speaker 3: I bet you there's a few turkeys.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right here, there's turkeys. There's bass I hope
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  Speaker 1: there's no church right there, I mean, not real close.
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  Speaker 6: I've talked to these I've talked to this Reverse Land
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 6: Trust before, and uh, it's just it sounds like a
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  Speaker 6: really great group and they have a huge hunting program,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 6: like a hunting access program through private landowners, and so yeah,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 6: like I'm glad that we're getting behind it because I
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 6: know that they follow our stuff and they're working for
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 6: hunters and anglers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeap.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a good one.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have more on that on our front here soon.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: But in the meantime, check it out, donate.
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  Speaker 1: It's good cause, ladies and gentlemen. Mark Kenyon, hell of segment, Sorry.
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  Speaker 8: I mean anymore?
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  Speaker 6: You know, I like that lost I've lost my fastball, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Fast thorough wonderful segment. You got any tips for Randall
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  Speaker 1: before we go go later in the show?
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 8: I think.
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  Speaker 6: A little more polished too.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: I think I think it might be a sequencing thing.
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  Speaker 3: Did you like?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Great job.
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  Speaker 6: And the fur band too.
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  Speaker 2: Hm.
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  Speaker 1: I could have seen I could have used a little
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: more passion. I got so lost, table beaten, little table
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: beaten notes.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: I took notes on everybody else. So maybe next maybe
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 6: next week.
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  Speaker 1: Randall has notes or like passion, yeah, table beating Go later,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: I mean I can't argue with any of that. Shake
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: your fists, don't change anything. Just try going later once and.
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  Speaker 6: See if you get We just tuned the very people
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 6: to figure out what the special sauces.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: Because if you go later and no one says anything,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: they were like, it wasn't that.
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  Speaker 6: I just can't wait for the angry d ms on
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 6: Instagram this week. Tell me to just disappear.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 8: And I'll make sure you're you know what could do?
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: Were you? Were you more assigned these or did you
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: more bring me?
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  Speaker 2: He didn't pick his passion topic like I D jumped
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  Speaker 2: in with, Like.
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  Speaker 1: I want down see Spencer over here.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: You seem to come up with your own news.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 6: I've been distracted.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: I'm doing the herpetology department over here.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 6: That's beat Spencer's kind.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: He's bringing his own news. Yeah, I'm not reporting on
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: stuff I didn't. I'm reporting on my own news. Maybe
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: I'll do that stuff that catches my eye, or we
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: just keep giving Randall duds if you don't.
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  Speaker 6: Like I thought Neanderthals was gonna be great. I thought
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 6: that would kill you, know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, especially when you had an AI image of
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: yourself as the neanderd Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because if you I know, But it was too quick.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention. If it was later when I
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: started waking up, I.
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  Speaker 6: Need to aim for like the eleven forty five, twelve
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  Speaker 6: thirty taping it.
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  Speaker 3: We'll take Steve's blood levels and measure the peaks and valleys.
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  Speaker 1: It would be good, all right.
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  Speaker 3: Another reminder, check out Kimmy's book. I was Jimmy Werner
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  Speaker 3: flipping through it. There's there's a lot of uh also
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: venison and red meat recipes in here. It's not only seafood,
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  Speaker 3: not that you said it was.
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  Speaker 1: I know, but yeah, I was. Yeah, okay, good job.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a lot of good stuff in here. I'm
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: gonna someone to get one.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: Getting greedy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, once again, let me let me see the book.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: Let's just finish pick Let's finish pick on Kimmy's book
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  Speaker 1: once again. Kimmy's Kitchen, An Ocean Woman's Guide to Wild
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  Speaker 8: Check her out.
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