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FairT: Gilbert and Glasnow shelved, Williams demoted, Ken claps back! · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: As for snuggling up the cashment for scoops. I shouldn't
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Speaker 1: admit this, but I can't remember the last time I
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Speaker 1: broke a Yankee story. Welcome everyone to the Monday edition
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Speaker 1: of Fair Territory. A ton of headlines over the weekend,
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Speaker 1: and I'm not even going to get to them all
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Speaker 1: in this first segment. The one I'm going to exclude
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Speaker 1: is the most amazing feat of all, Aohano Suarez is
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Speaker 1: for homer game. But we can talk about that in
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Speaker 1: other places at other times. Diamondbacks lost that game, by
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Speaker 1: the way, I want to start off with the pitching
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Speaker 1: injuries that occurred over the weekend. Two major ones. Logan Gilbert,
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Speaker 1: Seattle Mariners, one of their races. Maybe the ace shut
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Speaker 1: down for at least two weeks with a right elbow
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Speaker 1: flexer strain. Never a good sign to hear this. And
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Speaker 1: the Mariners, the shame of this is they've been really hot.
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Speaker 1: They're playing extremely well. They've won twelve of sixteen consecutive
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Speaker 1: series wins over these clubs, most of which are very
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Speaker 1: good Houston, Texas, Cincinnati, Toronto, Boston, and Miami. That's an
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Speaker 1: impressive run. The Mariners are on. They're already down George Kirby.
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Speaker 1: To lose Gilbert on top of that would be really tough.
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Speaker 1: The Dodgers also lost the starting pitcher this weekend, Tyler
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Speaker 1: glass Now, a guy they've lost before right shoulder discomfort.
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Speaker 1: He says he's exhausted being heard all the time, and
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Speaker 1: he knows other people are exhausted too. He's right about that.
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Speaker 1: But the Dodgers, unlike the Mariners, have extreme starting pitching depth.
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Speaker 1: We've talked about this at length. The Mariners have perhaps
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Speaker 1: the best rotation in the game, just not the depth
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Speaker 1: that you would want Emerson Hancock in there now, but
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Speaker 1: beyond him, not that much. The Dodgers, as we've seen,
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Speaker 1: they're kind of slow playing the season. They're gonna react
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Speaker 1: whenever someone has even a minor discomfort and say, go
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Speaker 1: to the il. We've got someone else coming in, and
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Speaker 1: in this case, that someone else will be Tony Gonsolin. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: they want glass Now back, they want Blake snellback, but
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Speaker 1: right now they're doing fine without them, or will do
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Speaker 1: fine without them. Another big story over the weekend the
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Speaker 1: Yankees demotion of Devin Williams from their closer role. Remember
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Speaker 1: Devin Williams was one of their big acquisitions when they
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Speaker 1: pivoted after losing Juan Soto, Max Freed another, Paul Goldschmidt
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Speaker 1: a third. Those guys are all doing great, Cody Bellinger
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Speaker 1: not so much. But Williams was supposed to be the
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Speaker 1: anchor at the back of the bullpen. He's one of
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Speaker 1: the best relievers in the game. But eleven point two
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Speaker 1: five era coming off the end of last season when
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Speaker 1: he allowed the homer to Pete Alonso in the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: For whatever reason, the airbender is not working right now,
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Speaker 1: or at least not working as it should. Yankees going
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Speaker 1: to Luke Weaver, and it always seems to me that
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Speaker 1: the alternate closer, the backup closer, is kind of like
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Speaker 1: the backup quarterback in the NFL. You want him, you
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Speaker 1: want him, you want them when your guy is struggling,
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Speaker 1: you want him until he struggles too. Maybe Luke Weaver
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Speaker 1: won't struggle. The Yankees clearly need both those guys, Weaver
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Speaker 1: and Williams at the back of games. They need them
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Speaker 1: to be effective. Also, over the weekend and on Friday,
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Speaker 1: I reported that the Cubs had a deal in place
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Speaker 1: in December for Jesus Lozardo but backed out after a
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Speaker 1: medical review. Now this is something actually I heard back
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Speaker 1: in January but could never confirm it. And then what
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Speaker 1: happened was I saw, obviously in the Fox game on Saturday,
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Speaker 1: that Lozardo was pitching against the Cubs for the Phillies,
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Speaker 1: and I thought, let me revisit this. I finally got
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Speaker 1: it confirmed to the point where I could report it,
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Speaker 1: and here we go. Now what's interesting here is clearly
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Speaker 1: the Cubs wanted another starter even after signing Matthew Boyd.
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Speaker 1: They ended up with Colin Ray after they failed to
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Speaker 1: execute the deal for Lozardo, and that could be well
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Speaker 1: and good. But Lozardo right now looks like one of
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Speaker 1: the best pitchers in the game. Six innings, no earned
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Speaker 1: runs against the Cubs on Saturday. So that's a what
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Speaker 1: might have been kind of deal. And there was another
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Speaker 1: what might have been kind of deal with the Cubs
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Speaker 1: that Patrick Mooney of The Athletic reported on over the
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Speaker 1: weekend as well. This one Bryce Harper, who could have
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Speaker 1: been a Cub as well. He said to Patrick, going
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Speaker 1: into that offseason, they were the number one team on
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Speaker 1: my list, without a doubt. Remember all the talk of
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Speaker 1: uniting or reuniting Harper with Chris Bryant, both Las Vegas natives.
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Speaker 1: They grew up together. And Tom Ricketts, the Cub's owner,
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Speaker 1: was quoted recently as saying, Hey, that is one that
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Speaker 1: we looked at and just never executed. But it was
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Speaker 1: certainly a big move that could have changed the trajectory
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Speaker 1: of the franchise. Didn't happen. So sometimes readers will ask, hey,
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Speaker 1: why are you guys reporting this stuff didn't happen. What's
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Speaker 1: the difference? Fair question, But to me, one of the
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Speaker 1: beauties of baseball and following transactions are the moves that
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Speaker 1: didn't happen. How history might have changed if certain things
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Speaker 1: took place. Harper to the Cubs certainly was one. Lozardo
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Speaker 1: to the Cubs was another, And in both cases it's news.
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Speaker 1: In a case of Harper, he's saying that the Cubs
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Speaker 1: were number one in his list, and in the case
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Speaker 1: of Lozardo, we are simply reporting, or we're reporting a
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Speaker 1: trade that just did not come to Fruition. Mor Side
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Speaker 1: Territory covers where the Cubs go from here. The Athletics,
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Speaker 1: All right, Finally, as we complete this segment, the Orioles.
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Speaker 1: I wrote about them again today. I've written about them
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Speaker 1: quite a bit lately, and the reason I've been writing
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Speaker 1: about them is because right now they're one of the
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Speaker 1: most disappointing teams in the game. Now. In the column,
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Speaker 1: I talk about their starting pitching, and obviously we've talked
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Speaker 1: at length about the starting pitching of the Baltimore Orioles
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Speaker 1: since the off season. But there are some other issues too.
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Speaker 1: They never have gotten that middle of the order presence
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Speaker 1: that they needed on top of Anthony Santander. Last year.
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Speaker 1: They did bring in Tyler O'Neill as a replacement for Santander,
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Speaker 1: but they really needed one more and they're still lacking
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Speaker 1: that middle of the order guy or even two guys
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Speaker 1: who could compliment the young hitters who are honestly probably
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Speaker 1: pressing as the team falls behind night after night. It's
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Speaker 1: a tough situation for these kids. A lot of number
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Speaker 1: one picks who are not accustomed to adversity are having
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Speaker 1: to deal with adversity. And yes, we're seeing them press.
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Speaker 1: We're also seeing injuries affect not only the rotation but
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Speaker 1: also the bullpen. They're down Andrew Kittridge and the offense
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Speaker 1: they've had various players banged up at various times so far.
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Speaker 1: So right now they're ten and seventeen as we tape
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Speaker 1: this on Monday morning. Is it going to get better? Not?
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Speaker 1: If the starting pitching continues to falter. And then the
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Speaker 1: question becomes, and I raised this in the column, what
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Speaker 1: do they do with the deadline? Do they become sellers?
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Speaker 1: Because if the Orioles chose to sell, and again we're
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Speaker 1: three months away, but we're just talking here, we're just speculating.
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Speaker 1: If they chose to sell, they'd have some really attractive pieces,
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Speaker 1: Cedric Mohens potential free agent, Zach Eflin potential free agent,
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Speaker 1: Sir Anthony de Mingez potential free agent as well, So
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Speaker 1: they could do some things. But the problem with being
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Speaker 1: a seller is that they were supposed to win. Now
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Speaker 1: back to back postseason appearances, didn't win a game in
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Speaker 1: either appearance. But this was supposed to be a year
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Speaker 1: in which they took a step forward. It isn't happening,
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Speaker 1: and right now the Orioles are a team with significant concerns. Well, well,
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Speaker 1: time now for the inside Dish, the part of the
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Speaker 1: show where I talk about maybe an arc. I've written
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Speaker 1: maybe a trend in the game, or maybe today about
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Speaker 1: read a reaction to a recent story of mine that
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Speaker 1: was I would say over the top. And listen, let's
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Speaker 1: preface this by saying I encourage and welcome all comments
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Speaker 1: and reactions, both on the YouTube channel and on the athletic. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: I can't respond to all of them. I rarely respond
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Speaker 1: to any them really because of the volume, that's the
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Speaker 1: only reason. But editors often advise us as writers not
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Speaker 1: to look at the comments, that people are just going
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Speaker 1: to spout off, and hey, everyone's entitled to their opinions,
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Speaker 1: and that's a good thing. Also, at times I'll look
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Speaker 1: at the comments and I'll notice somebody pointing out a
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Speaker 1: factual error, and I will go and change the article
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Speaker 1: to make it correct. That's a good thing too. I'm
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Speaker 1: not perfect. My editors aren't perfect. Then sometimes we miss things,
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Speaker 1: But there are occasions when the comments are so over
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Speaker 1: the top it's kind of worth having a conversation. Now,
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Speaker 1: this article that I wrote last week was about the
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Speaker 1: Yankees and how they've developed homegrown core. Here it's beyond
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Speaker 1: Aarren judge. They're playing five homegrown guys regularly in their lineup,
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Speaker 1: and they also have Clark Schmidt a homegrown picture in
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Speaker 1: their starting rotation. There's the article It's not just the money,
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Speaker 1: how the Yankees continue to produce homegrown talent. Now, in
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Speaker 1: this article, I took great pains to point out that
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Speaker 1: the Yankees homegrown players that I mentioned Wells and Volpi
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Speaker 1: and Domingez, etc. They're not guaranteed to succeed. And I
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Speaker 1: take great pains to mention that the Yankees aren't the
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Speaker 1: only team succeeding at producing homegrown talent. There are any
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Speaker 1: number of clubs, and I listed quite a few of
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Speaker 1: them that are doing it as well or even better.
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Speaker 1: But I wrote about the Yankees because they face some
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Speaker 1: unique disadvantages. They routinely draft low. That's partly a product
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Speaker 1: of their success, and it's also partly a product of
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Speaker 1: exceeding the luxury tax threshold by forty million and getting
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Speaker 1: your pick penalized ten slots. They also lose picks quite
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Speaker 1: frequently three of the last five years when they sign
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Speaker 1: free agents who reject qualifying offers, so they're effectively playing
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Speaker 1: from behind. Okay, that's why I wrote the story. I
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Speaker 1: thought it was a valid thing too write. Not everybody's
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Speaker 1: going to love it, but Yankee fans unique among fan bases.
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Speaker 1: I would say self hating element that even when you
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Speaker 1: write nicely about them, they're gonna rip you. So fans
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Speaker 1: did rip me, and I kind of consider these occasions
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Speaker 1: when I see reaction like this to be at times,
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Speaker 1: not always, because a lot of times people have valid
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Speaker 1: opinions that they're stating contrary to mind. But at times
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Speaker 1: it's like a group therapy gas lighting session. I start
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Speaker 1: to wonder if I'm a little crazy. So let's go
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Speaker 1: through with some of the comments, kind of one by one,
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Speaker 1: and this time I'll actually respond, all right, here we go.
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Speaker 1: First comment. Let's see what this one is. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: here we go. So why focus on the Yankees? I
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Speaker 1: did ask that question in the column because the Yankees
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Speaker 1: get clicks and I want to snug up close to cash.
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Speaker 1: But for scoops at least be honest, Kenny, Okay, I'll
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Speaker 1: be honest. The last time I wrote about the Yankees
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Speaker 1: at length before this story was after Game four of
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Speaker 1: the World Series, and in that column, which was not
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Speaker 1: a warm and Cudley column, I basically said the Yankees
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Speaker 1: are bad at playing baseball, and then in Game five,
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Speaker 1: they of course reinforced the point, that was the last time.
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Speaker 1: So for my click seeking, if I'm doing that, I'm
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Speaker 1: not doing a very good job. As for snuggling up
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Speaker 1: the cashman for scoops, I shouldn't admit this, but I
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Speaker 1: can't remember the last time I broke a Yankee story.
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Speaker 1: I imagine it's happened somewhat recently, maybe I don't know,
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Speaker 1: within the last year, but it's not happening often. Other
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Speaker 1: writers are beating me the Yankee stories. So hey, that
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Speaker 1: isn't really a valid point there. I'm not doing myself
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Speaker 1: any favors by snuggling up the cashman. Okay, let's keep
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Speaker 1: going here. What's the next comment? Here we go. I
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Speaker 1: think you mean, how many two hundred hitters can one
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Speaker 1: team produce? Who are the Yankees paid you to write
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Speaker 1: such nonsense? Well, no one paid me. The athletic is
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Speaker 1: the only entity paying me, as well as Fox Sports.
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Speaker 1: But as for the two hundred hitters, at the time
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Speaker 1: the article came out, yes, Volpi was struggling, wells were struggling.
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Speaker 1: They had actually pretty good weekends, both of them, So
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Speaker 1: they're not hitting two hundred anymore. They're a little bit
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Speaker 1: above that. Their ops's are good Volpi's a great defender.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to go through it one by one.
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Speaker 1: I don't have to. The bottom line is the Yankees
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Speaker 1: are a first place club. They went to the World
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Speaker 1: Series last year with a lot of these players, and
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Speaker 1: here they are again incorporating them and hoping they'll take
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Speaker 1: the next step forward. As I mentioned, no guarantee that
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Speaker 1: they will. All right, put up the next couple of comments.
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Speaker 1: Here we go, keep going, all right? From anonymous you
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Speaker 1: I love these nose. Oh not surprising that happy bow Tie.
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Speaker 1: That would be me, I guess chose to gush over
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Speaker 1: the Yankees. Not surprising at all. But in rereading this column,
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Speaker 1: the takeaway seems to be that the Yankees draft and
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Speaker 1: develop a lot of players, many of whom disappoint as
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Speaker 1: a Yankee or succeed for other teams. Not exactly the
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Speaker 1: feather in the Yankees cap that Rosie intended. Well, thanks
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Speaker 1: for calling me Rosie. And the second reference and not
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Speaker 1: happy bow Tie. And then the next comment, this one
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Speaker 1: I don't know, also from a nameless person. I think
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Speaker 1: the author forgot to check the stats of these guys. Well,
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Speaker 1: that goes back to the previous comment. As for the
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Speaker 1: Yankee players that were developed and either did not succeed
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Speaker 1: or did not end up with the Yankees went elsewhere.
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Speaker 1: Fans need to understand not every homegrown player is going
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Speaker 1: to be Aaron Judge. This is from the Yankees perspective.
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Speaker 1: But when you produce guys who are playing in the
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Speaker 1: major leagues and playing on a regular basis, that is
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Speaker 1: what is called a player development win. You want a
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Speaker 1: draft pick to get to the major leagues, you want
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Speaker 1: an international signing to get to the major leagues. They're
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Speaker 1: going to have varying degrees of success. That's just the
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Speaker 1: way it goes. They're not all going to be superstars.
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Speaker 1: All right, final comments, let's go, let's round this up.
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Speaker 1: All right, here we go from Will s. I wonder
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Speaker 1: if that's Will Salmon of the Athletic Why did this
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Speaker 1: article need to be written? Now it's not Will Salmon.
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Speaker 1: That's a good question. Why did this article need to
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Speaker 1: be written? I already explained it. And then the other one,
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Speaker 1: the final one from Richard C. There are puff pieces
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Speaker 1: and then there is this drivel get it together? Well,
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Speaker 1: I can only say I'm trying to get it together.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to keep it together, and I guess I'll
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Speaker 1: just have to keep trying, because at least to some
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Speaker 1: of the readers, it's not going very well. Oh and
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Speaker 1: I will say this in conclusion, a lot of these commenters,
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Speaker 1: actually I don't know if it's these commenters, but a
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Speaker 1: lot of people come up to me at ballparks they
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Speaker 1: want to sell fie, maybe an autograph. People when I
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Speaker 1: see them in public generally are really nice. Now, those
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Speaker 1: people too might have columns, they disagree with articles, they
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Speaker 1: disagree with things they don't like, all well and good,
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Speaker 1: but it's always interesting to me the difference that you
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Speaker 1: see in the comments from the people who are largely anonymous,
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Speaker 1: if not entirely anonymous, and the difference you see when
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Speaker 1: people see you face to face. And I'll leave it
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Speaker 1: at that. That's all I'm going to say. Thanks for
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Speaker 1: the comments everyone. We'll be back after a quick word
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Speaker 1: Time now for Grill and Ken. Let's get to your questions.
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Speaker 1: The first question comes from Dylan Edward, who asks is
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Speaker 1: Andre Munoz the best closer in the American League. Dylan,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do you one better right now, Andres Munos
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Speaker 1: is the best closer in major League Baseball, and you
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Speaker 1: could have made an argument until Sunday, and you really
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Speaker 1: could still make an argument that Robert Suarez is right
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Speaker 1: there with Muno's Robert Suarez of the San Diego Padres.
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Speaker 1: But Suarez gave up his first run of the season
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Speaker 1: on Sunday, was a non save effort, but he did
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Speaker 1: give up a run. So we're gonna go with Munos
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Speaker 1: because he has yet to give up a run. He's
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Speaker 1: ten for ten in save opportunities, zero earned runs in
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Speaker 1: fourteen innings, pitched, eighteen strikeouts, six walks, and two of
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Speaker 1: those walks were intentional. So Andres Muno's, like a lot
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Speaker 1: of Mariners, doesn't maybe get the attention he deserves, but
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Speaker 1: he is off to a tremendous start. The next question
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Speaker 1: comes from D rfu Passing, who asks why hasn't JD.
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Speaker 1: Martinez been signed by anyone? Lots of teams out there
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Speaker 1: could use some extra pop, no doubt about that, and
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Speaker 1: certainly there are teams really could benefit from another hitter
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Speaker 1: or two for that matter, in some cases. But it
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Speaker 1: seems to me that the issue for Martinez and I
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Speaker 1: have not spoken to him about this, but for him,
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Speaker 1: for Anthony Rizzo. For lance Lynn, it all seems to
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Speaker 1: be the same story. What the teams are offering these
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Speaker 1: guys contractually financially is not satisfactory. In their opinions. The
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Speaker 1: players do not want to play for the amount of
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Speaker 1: money that they're being offered. In each case, each of
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Speaker 1: these players has made a lot of money in their
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Speaker 1: careers and they have the right, the absolute right to
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Speaker 1: say I'm not playing for that. And I would imagine
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Speaker 1: they're comfortable enough to say I'm not playing for that.
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Speaker 1: So that would seem to be the issue here, that
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Speaker 1: the value the players have in their minds for what
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Speaker 1: they are worth is different than what the value the
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Speaker 1: teams are assigning them, and that is why none of
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Speaker 1: those guys is signed, as well as a number of
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Speaker 1: other players still In late April, and finally we hear
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Speaker 1: from Dan Crawley who asked, could you see a scenario
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Speaker 1: in which the Braves trade some of their core players
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Speaker 1: at the deadline that shake up their roster and also
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Speaker 1: fall further below the luxury tax threshold. Dan, I imagine you
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Speaker 1: submitted this question maybe a couple of days ago, because
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Speaker 1: things have changed for the Braves. Yes, they started five
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Speaker 1: and thirteen but since then there's seven and two, twelve
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Speaker 1: and fifteen overall, and they are not going to give
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Speaker 1: up the season or on the season unless they completely
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Speaker 1: fall out of it, which I don't anticipate them doing.
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Speaker 1: This is a team that still is awaiting the second
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Speaker 1: return of Spencer Stryder and awaiting the return the season
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Speaker 1: debut of Ronald Acuna Junior. They're playing better. They should
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Speaker 1: continue to play better still barring some unforeseen circumstances, and
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Speaker 1: I do expect that they're going to contend. They had
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Speaker 1: better contend because they were my pick to go to
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Speaker 1: the World Series from the National League. Want to thank
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