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Full Show Podcast: 04 August 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: an early edition with ex pole insulation, keeping Kimi Holmes
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  Speaker 1: warm and tray this winter news talks.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome the Monday, just gone six minutes after five NCA.
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  Speaker 3: Big announcement from the government today on this The question
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  Speaker 3: is do you just basically rip it up and throw
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  Speaker 3: it in the bin and start again. We'll look at that.
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  Speaker 3: Gavin Gray's in the UK for us, another attempt at
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  Speaker 3: a crackdown over there over people smuggling. Elliott Smith on
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  Speaker 3: Royguard here. Tariffs, tariffs, tariffs, we'll talk about them a
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  Speaker 3: lot during the show. And secondhand vehicles if you're in
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  Speaker 3: the market for one, why you might be paying a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more and what the government might be doing
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  Speaker 3: about that. Shortly all ahead.
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  Speaker 2: The agenda.
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  Speaker 3: It is Monday, the fourth of August. Israel's far right
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  Speaker 3: minister has sparked controversy praying at the Aluksa Mosque in Jerusalem.
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  Speaker 3: The reason this is so sacricanct is it breaks a
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  Speaker 3: decades's old rule that Jews can visit but not pray
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  Speaker 3: at the site.
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  Speaker 4: We've seen those images of Itama Bengavie leading Jewish prayers
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  Speaker 4: there earlier today, and he released a video on his
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  Speaker 4: social media accounts.
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  Speaker 3: Again repeating some of his positions. He has been urging the.
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  Speaker 4: Government the Israeli military to occupy the whole of the
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  Speaker 4: Gaza Strip.
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  Speaker 3: To the United States, Trump's officials are going after a
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  Speaker 3: guy who took two federal court cases against the president.
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  Speaker 3: Former Special counsel Jack Smith is now himself under scrutiny
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  Speaker 3: for possible rule breaks while prosecuting Trump.
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  Speaker 5: This investigation is not criminal in nature. Unlike when Jack
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  Speaker 5: Smith was a prosecutor, the agency conducting this investigation won't
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  Speaker 5: have the ability to compel testimony or cooperation from Smith
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  Speaker 5: or any former government employees.
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  Speaker 3: Staying with Trump, he wants to bring back the presidential
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  Speaker 3: fitness test in public schools. Think sit ups, Think push ups,
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  Speaker 3: Think pull ups. First launched in the fifties to measure kids' fitness,
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  Speaker 3: scrapped under a b in twenty twelve.
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  Speaker 1: Can your child pass a simple physical fitness test?
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  Speaker 6: It's an important indication of America's level of energy, competitiveness,
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  Speaker 6: and vigor.
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  Speaker 7: This is an important step in our mission to make
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  Speaker 7: America healthy again.
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  Speaker 1: Could Trump pinissums and views you trust to start your day.
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  Speaker 2: It's earlier.
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  Speaker 1: This ship with Ryan Bridge at ex Pole Insulation keeping
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  Speaker 1: Kiwi homes warm and dry this winter.
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  Speaker 2: News talk, said Beg.
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  Speaker 3: The question is that could Trump actually do it himself?
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  Speaker 3: Would be my question. But I don't see anything wrong
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  Speaker 3: with that.
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  Speaker 2: You had to do.
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  Speaker 3: When I was at school, pe was a compulsory I'm
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  Speaker 3: pretty sure it was a compulsory subject. So everybody had
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  Speaker 3: to sort of move you could. The only way you
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  Speaker 3: could get out of doing pe was by not bringing
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  Speaker 3: your pe gear, And then you would have to sit
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  Speaker 3: down and watch everyone do it anyway, And if it
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  Speaker 3: was raining, you would have to sit out in the
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  Speaker 3: rain and want did everyone do it anyway? So you
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  Speaker 3: might as well join in and be warm. Nine two
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  Speaker 3: ninety two is the number to text. Would love to
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  Speaker 3: hear from you this morning. Tariffs. We aren't talking a
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  Speaker 3: lot about tariffs for good reason. We have shot up
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  Speaker 3: the rankings. So we were at ten percent. Now we're
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  Speaker 3: at fifteen tariff day Friday, of course, so yes, we
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  Speaker 3: are going to be paying more. The ten percent was
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  Speaker 3: around nine hundred million dollars. Is how much the value
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  Speaker 3: of the tariff was worth on how much we were exporting?
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  Speaker 3: The question is whether the extra five points five percentage
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  Speaker 3: points puts us out of competition with other exporters. Right,
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  Speaker 3: it's clearly something this government has thought about, and it's
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  Speaker 3: clearly enough to have them worried, because remember, these guys
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  Speaker 3: weren't phased at ten percent. I asked Luxon and Maclay
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  Speaker 3: several times about this over many months, and they all said,
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  Speaker 3: it's basically fine. We're not even going to try and
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  Speaker 3: get that number down to five percent, for example, We're
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  Speaker 3: just going to go We're happy to cruise at ten.
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  Speaker 3: Now five points added to the bill, and we're flying
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  Speaker 3: diplomats and like it's the Munich conference, We've got urgent
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  Speaker 3: meeting requests in, we're warming the jets on the tarmac,
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  Speaker 3: civil servants briefcase up, and big coats on boarding planes
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  Speaker 3: heading to Washington. So what gives the question for Luxan today,
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  Speaker 3: I think is why were we so chill at ten
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  Speaker 3: and now so worked up at fifteen. I don't get it.
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  Speaker 3: Our prices and volumes held up apparently when we were
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  Speaker 3: at ten percent. It's what they tell us, the exporters.
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  Speaker 3: So why does fifteen makes such a big difference? What
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  Speaker 3: does that do to our competitiveness? Serious question. And we
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  Speaker 3: have a small trade surplus of about five hundred million
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  Speaker 3: dollars with the US, but that's nothing to them given
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  Speaker 3: the size of their economy, and it's enough, according to
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  Speaker 3: Trump to get us on as naughty list, you know,
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  Speaker 3: anyone with a trade surpus, no matter if it's a dollar.
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  Speaker 3: Which makes no sense by the way, because that numbers
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  Speaker 3: bounced around, like for New Zealand and America, that numbers
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  Speaker 3: bounced around and bounced around and bounced around on average.
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  Speaker 3: We sell them as much stuff as we buy back
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  Speaker 3: off them, basically, so the calculation makes no sense. But
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  Speaker 3: the calculations never made sense. But the ten percent to
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  Speaker 3: fifteen percent, so you can't argue on the calculation, but
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  Speaker 3: you ten to five percent to fifteen percent. How significant
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  Speaker 3: a hit will we take from that change? Clearly it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be significant enough for us to fire up
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  Speaker 3: the jets and get the diplomats over there. Anyway, we'll
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  Speaker 3: ask Luxon about that this morning on well over on
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  Speaker 3: HERELD Now we'll do that. I'm sure Mike will be
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  Speaker 3: doing it too. Eleven minutes after five here on News Talks.
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  Speaker 3: Heb coming up next. We're going to talk to Beef
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  Speaker 3: and Lamb about those terriffts, what they're seeing from Trump's
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  Speaker 3: announcement on Friday.
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  Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
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  Speaker 1: analysis earlier edition with Bryan Bridge and x Bowl Insulation
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  Speaker 1: keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and dry.
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  Speaker 2: This Winter News Talks headb.
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  Speaker 3: It is fourteen minutes alf to five. Lillia Lawson's had
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  Speaker 3: a great night finishing as Red Bulls best Car and Hungry.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk to Elliot Smith at that in just a
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  Speaker 3: few moments. Right now, our top trade diplomats heading to
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  Speaker 3: the States as we speak to try and bargain down
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  Speaker 3: our tariff rate on exports to the US. We've been
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  Speaker 3: hit with fifteen percent on Friday. Australia got away with
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  Speaker 3: ten our trade Minster Todd McLay will plead his case
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  Speaker 3: in the coming week. So what does the industry make
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  Speaker 3: of it all? Kate Ackland, Beef and Nam New Zealand
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  Speaker 3: share with us this morning, Kay, Good morning, morning Ryan.
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  Speaker 3: What is this a big difference for exporters?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 8: Look, we're incredibly disappointed and the main reason is it
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  Speaker 8: places our farms and exporters at a clear competitive disadvantage.
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  Speaker 8: And what's one of our most valuable markets. So to
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  Speaker 8: be on a different rate from Australia or Uruguay or Argentina,
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  Speaker 8: that's quite significant.
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  Speaker 3: Are they all on ten?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, those guys are all on ten. So only Brazil
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  Speaker 8: and Nicauagra are currently facing higher additional tariffs than New Zealander.
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  Speaker 2: The mining What.
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  Speaker 3: Would that do to our sales and volumes potentially?
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  Speaker 8: Well, I think would make it very difficult to pass
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  Speaker 8: that cost on, you know, so that would be something
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  Speaker 8: that farmers and esports would have to have to absorbit
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  Speaker 8: this end. And you know, five percent might not sound
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  Speaker 8: like much, but you know, the extra that extra tariff
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  Speaker 8: is we're looking at over three hundred million dollars more
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  Speaker 8: than we were paying a year ago, assuming that trade
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  Speaker 8: level stayed the same.
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  Speaker 3: So that's that includes a tech that's the full fifteen
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  Speaker 3: percent you mean, not the difference between ten and five. Yeah, yeah, yes, okay,
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  Speaker 3: So it's well worth us sending over our diplomatic representations
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  Speaker 3: and you know, kicking up a fuss as much as
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  Speaker 3: we can. Are you happy with how the government's handled
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  Speaker 3: this on your behalf thus far?
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  Speaker 8: Look, it's been a very tricky situation and as everyone knows,
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  Speaker 8: quite unpredictable. So look, I think the approach you Zeland
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  Speaker 8: had was right, but obviously now is the time to
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  Speaker 8: do something. So it's great that the minister's heading up there.
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  Speaker 8: And yeah, do you know what to happen?
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  Speaker 3: What are you hearing about? What it is that their
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  Speaker 3: justification is for it?
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  Speaker 8: Look, we haven't heard anything that It was quite a surprise,
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  Speaker 8: So you haven't heard any reason for this?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? And what's your How often are they keeping you updated?
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  Speaker 3: Our government?
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  Speaker 2: That is.
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  Speaker 8: We're in pretty constant contact with our government officials both
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  Speaker 8: here in New Zealand but also over in DC, so
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  Speaker 8: you know there is a great team over in DC.
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  Speaker 8: We've also got staff over there, so you know it
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  Speaker 8: is quite a collective team New Zealand effort.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Kate, appreciate your trying this morning. Good luck Kate Eckland,
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  Speaker 3: who's beef and the New Zealand shared with us? Just
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  Speaker 3: gone seventeen minutes after five. It's sort of scratched your
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  Speaker 3: head stuff, isn't it when you've got a trade surplus. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: we have a trade surplus, but it's you know, two
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  Speaker 3: forts of bugger all to the American Is this just
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  Speaker 3: just an excuse, a blanket excuse to take some money
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  Speaker 3: off other countries you trade with. It looks like that
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  Speaker 3: to me. Seventeen minutes after five, Ryan, remember the Beep
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  Speaker 3: test and Pe. We're talking about school this morning because
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  Speaker 3: NCA change is coming and being announced this morning. Ryan.
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  Speaker 3: I love doing PE at school in the sixties only
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  Speaker 3: so I could watch the girls in their PE year. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: that's so weird, Ryan. This is on the health of
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  Speaker 3: the US president, who wants kids at school to be
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  Speaker 3: going and doing push ups and pull ups and all
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  Speaker 3: sorts of things. And the president's fitness test. This person said,
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  Speaker 3: could Biden even get out of bed? Well, that's that's
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  Speaker 3: an equally good point. Seventeen minutes after five, News Talk Pit,
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  Speaker 3: said be Elliot Smith in the studio.
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  Speaker 1: Next the first word on the News of the Day
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  Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and x Fole Insulation, keeping
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  Speaker 1: Kiwi Holmes warm and Drey this winter.
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  Speaker 2: News Talk said be.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, just gone twenty after five. We'll look at
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  Speaker 3: those NCA changes come out this morning just before six o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, Elliott Smith here was sport, Good morning morning, Ryan,
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  Speaker 3: So great night for another one. Another points finished for
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  Speaker 3: Liam Lawson.
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  Speaker 7: Back to back points finishes, back to back eighth in
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  Speaker 7: Formula One, as he did in Belgium last week finished
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  Speaker 7: eighth at the Hungarian Grand Prix overnight. This one probably
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  Speaker 7: means a little bit more because he carried or beat
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  Speaker 7: all the racing balls and red Bulls teammates time Max
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  Speaker 7: A Stappin finishing just behind him in ninth u Gisnoda
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  Speaker 7: down the track, as well as other rival from for
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  Speaker 7: racing balls or rival teammate, whatever you want to call it,
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  Speaker 7: also finishing outside the top ten. So in terms of
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  Speaker 7: the result, it's a really good one for Liam Lawson.
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  Speaker 7: Four points he gets and the f one. Our heads
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  Speaker 7: into the summer breaks of four weeks and tends to
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  Speaker 7: be where a lot of the backroom deals are made
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  Speaker 7: around what's happening next season, even if it doesn't all
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  Speaker 7: come out now. This is when the deals are sort
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  Speaker 7: of made. They don't start again until right at the
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  Speaker 7: end of month when they have the Dutch Formula one
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  Speaker 7: Grand Prix. So he's put himself in a good position
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  Speaker 7: as they head into the break and all sorts of negotiations.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sorry as to what his role will be next year,
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  Speaker 7: but in terms of what he's done points in the
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  Speaker 7: last three or four races. You have to say pretty
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  Speaker 7: good last few weeks for it for Liam Lawson the
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  Speaker 7: race won by Orlando Norris, finishing ahead of Oscar Piastre overnight.
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  Speaker 3: Right, nice good on him. And now the Warriors ye
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  Speaker 3: missing out to the Dolphins. Is this the point in
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  Speaker 3: the season where we start to go we should.
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  Speaker 7: Perhaps be a little bit worried about the Warriors. They've
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  Speaker 7: got a lot of injuries. And after that loss on
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  Speaker 7: Friday Night twenty to eighteen, I mean they got back
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  Speaker 7: and were leading that game right till the very end,
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  Speaker 7: and then the Dolphins scoring and taking the win in
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  Speaker 7: a heartbreaker for the Warriors. But from that point on
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  Speaker 7: it didn't get much better for the Warriors because all
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  Speaker 7: their rivals for the top four, and you really want
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  Speaker 7: to finish in the top four in the NRAL. Gives
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  Speaker 7: you a second life in the playoffs where the Broncos
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  Speaker 7: win just after them, so they closed to within a win,
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  Speaker 7: the Panthers an hour a point behind after starting the
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  Speaker 7: season terribly. The Sharks won yesterday, so all the teams
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  Speaker 7: that are sort of chasing the Warriors for that fourth
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  Speaker 7: spot in the playoffs have won over the weekend. Gap
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  Speaker 7: is just tightening. They've got a tricky game this weekend
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  Speaker 7: as well, the Warriors against the Bulldogs away, the Bulldogs
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  Speaker 7: losing yesterday to the Tigers, but they're right in that
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  Speaker 7: top four as well. So yeah, this isn't looking good
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  Speaker 7: for the Warriors necessarily. Hopefully I can get it back
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  Speaker 7: into winning ways. But it's just been a couple of wobbles,
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  Speaker 7: which is not the point of the season where you
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  Speaker 7: want to get wobbles right now.
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  Speaker 3: It's certainly not now. Lewis Clairebert Kleibert and the pool
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  Speaker 3: in Singapore, how's he been doing? Not? Not great?
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  Speaker 7: No, he said, a national record in the two hundred
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  Speaker 7: medley last week.
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  Speaker 3: That's not his preferred event.
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  Speaker 7: In his preferred event which he won the gold medal
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  Speaker 7: at at the World Championships last year. In twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 7: he's missed out on the final and that's a real
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  Speaker 7: surprise for Lewis Claire Birdie finished sixth in the Olympics
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  Speaker 7: in this distance the four hundred individual medley and as
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  Speaker 7: he won the World Championships last year, didn't even make
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  Speaker 7: the final last night for this discipline. So hasn't been
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  Speaker 7: the best of campaigns and men he can take away
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  Speaker 7: the world record, so the national record in the two
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  Speaker 7: hundred individual medley, but four hundreds where his bread and
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  Speaker 7: butterers didn't make the final. There still a couple of
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  Speaker 7: years obviously until the LA Olympics. But just an interesting
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  Speaker 7: we I guess tripped for him that didn't really work
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  Speaker 7: out for him in Singapore and now at this point
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  Speaker 7: of career. Yeah, I guess a bit of a slide
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  Speaker 7: in doors moment as to where.
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  Speaker 3: He goes and in such a young man's game.
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  Speaker 9: It is.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, my show on the world champion record holder want
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  Speaker 7: again in twenty three laws clear, it's now twenty six.
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  Speaker 7: You just gotta wonder what was around the corner.
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  Speaker 3: You see that twelve year old Chinese and the just
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  Speaker 3: absolutely blitzing it.
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  Speaker 7: It's crazy, isn't it that these are just young athletes
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  Speaker 7: that you know, get into it from a young age
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  Speaker 7: and just it's hard to explain, isn't it?
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  Speaker 3: Really? Yeah, it's hard to watch it. It hard so
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  Speaker 3: quickly all right, thanks so much for that, Alix Alix
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  Speaker 3: Smith's news talk, said b Voice of Rugby. Well, most
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  Speaker 3: sports today actually twenty four minutes after five still to come.
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  Speaker 3: We will get to our reporters around the country after news.
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  Speaker 3: Gavin Gray is in the UK for US this morning,
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  Speaker 3: another attempt at cares Sara looking tough on migration. We'll
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  Speaker 3: tell you about that and before six the Nceea changes
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  Speaker 3: on the cards. Big announcement from Erica Stanford this morning,
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  Speaker 3: twenty four after five News Talk SIBB.
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  Speaker 2: Talks AB.
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  Speaker 3: News Talks AB. It is twenty six minutes after five
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  Speaker 3: and it's about that time of year when it feels
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  Speaker 3: like winters really starting to drag. And I think it
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  Speaker 3: must be really starting to drag for Christopher Luxon too.
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  Speaker 3: It's cold, it's dark. We just want to be at
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  Speaker 3: the beach, like all of our poser friends on Instagram
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  Speaker 3: who are in Bali or Europe being absolute you know
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  Speaker 3: what's but we endure this gloomy season safe in the
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  Speaker 3: knowledge that one day, in a month or so, springtime
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  Speaker 3: will come, the days will get longer, everything about life
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  Speaker 3: will just feel easier, easy, breezy, warm, great, get me
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  Speaker 3: to it now. Contrast that to the economic winter that
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  Speaker 3: will simultaneously enduring right now, and you can see that
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  Speaker 3: there's an immediate problem. Unlike winter, which we know will
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  Speaker 3: end soon. This economic funk has graced us longer than
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  Speaker 3: the gfc's. Inflation is on its way back up for goodness,
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  Speaker 3: as we may have bounced out of a recession for
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  Speaker 3: a few quarters, but there's also a good chance we
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  Speaker 3: currently back in negative growth territory. That's after three years
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  Speaker 3: of unaffordable food, your mortgages, pretty much everything. You know this,
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  Speaker 3: I know this. Politicians are arguing again at the weekend
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  Speaker 3: about who's to blame. The answer, of course is the
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  Speaker 3: Labor Party, the Reserve Bank. They went too far in
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  Speaker 3: responding to the virus, and then we continue down the
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  Speaker 3: spending spree, spending like a drunken sailor. Trump hasn't helped
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  Speaker 3: just recently. The problem for National is that voters don't
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  Speaker 3: seem to care much who started the fire. They just
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: want the whole thing put out quickly, and they need
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  Speaker 3: to feel the numbers. This is National's problem. This is
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  Speaker 3: the problem. They need to feel the numbers, not the
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  Speaker 3: ocr announcement the top line, but they need to feel
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  Speaker 3: the mortgage refixing on a lower rate. Food price inflation
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  Speaker 3: still going up, so things might be getting more expensive
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  Speaker 3: less quickly, but they're still going up. In price. Aren't
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  Speaker 3: they Only once people feel different will the polls respond?
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  Speaker 3: For your Christopher Luxance, The biggest problem for the Coalition
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  Speaker 3: on waiting for that to happen is not that some
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  Speaker 3: might convert to labor voters in the meantime, but that
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  Speaker 3: they might jump ship all together and move to Brisbane.
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  Speaker 3: Pry and Bridge eight minutes after five on news book
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  Speaker 3: set B nine two ninety two is the number to text.
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  Speaker 3: Would love to hear your thoughts on that. This morning.
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  Speaker 3: Are lots of people texting about Trump and the tariffs
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: and what should our strategy be. Our strategy for the government.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Initially to the homeless thing was deny, deny, deny. Now
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: there's acceptance, there's a problem. Here's Chris Bishop at the
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: weekend saying they're going to do something urgent about it.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: I'm open to it, but I don't really want to
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: do it. I'll do it if I think it would
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: make a difference. This is changing the rules to emergency
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: housing criteria. So we change the rules, homelessness goes up.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: If you change them back, will it reverse the trend?
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: He's saying, well, actually we're not sure, so watch this space.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: We'll look at NCA before six. News Talk ZB.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Bridge and ex fol Insulation, Keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Dray this Winter News Talks B.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Good morning, Welcome to Monday, twenty four minutes away six.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Great to have your company. NCA changes will be announced
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: this morning, affecting your kids if they're off to school.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: We will tell you about those changes just before six
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: of the PPTA, at least what we know so far.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: We'll also talk to Gavin Gray out of the UK
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: as Starmer tries to avert, well avert the continuation of
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: a migrant crisis over across the English Channel. Our reporters
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: all around the country in a second as well, but
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: staying with the UK for just a second. Love a
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: good royal story, especially one involving fisticuffs. So you might
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: have seen this at the weekend. Prince Andrew apparently got
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: punched in the face by Harry. Harry was upset at
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: something Andrew had said, and then you think, well, what
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: was Andrew saying? Apparently it was meant to be behind
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: his back, and then actually Harry heard it, and so
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Harry got all fired up. But Andrew said something behind
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Harry's back about Meghan being you know it's not gonna
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: the marriage won't last lot, Like I give it a month,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: he said, give it what it might last more than
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: a month. He also said Megan was an opportunist and
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: thought that she was too old for Harry, well far
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: bent from Prince Andrew to be talking about age. But yeah,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: he said, which I didn't even realize there was an
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: age gap. It's three years. Apparently she's three years older
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: than Harry. Do I think that makes a big difference.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's that important anyway. Harry hears it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Harry gets upset, launches at Andrew, punches him in the nose,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: royal blood spelling on the palace floor, and then apparently
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: it all kicks off. This is in a new biography
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: about the Duke of York. Harry now has come out
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: as a result of this, because it was published in
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: the Daily Mail at the weekend. Harry has come out
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: and said, not true, not true. I did lay no
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: punch on my uncle twenty two minutes away.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: From six Ryan Bridge.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Get to our reporters around the country, starting in Dunedin,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Rosie Leishman, Rosie, good morning, good morning, Bumper turnout of
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: election candidates for.
• 20:00
  Speaker 10: You guys, yes, So nominations closed on Friday for October's
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: local body elections. Sixteen people have put their hat in
• 20:08
  Speaker 10: the ring to be Dunedin's mayor, including incumbent Jules Raddick.
• 20:12
  Speaker 10: There are more than fifty five candidates for the Council
• 20:15
  Speaker 10: at large, and elections will also be held in all
• 20:18
  Speaker 10: six community boards. After a rush of nominations in the
• 20:21
  Speaker 10: final week. Council Chief Executive Sandy Graham says she's delighted
• 20:25
  Speaker 10: to see such a high level of community engagement and
• 20:27
  Speaker 10: participation in this democratic process.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Great. I'm excited to see that too, Rosie. How's the weather.
• 20:34
  Speaker 10: Some severe frosts about this morning with developing northeasterlies before
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: clouding over a bit in the evening in a high
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: of eleven degrees.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Brilliant. Thank you very much, Rosie, because you look at
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: other places around the country and I was looking just
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: this morning in hut South, for example. This is a
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Chris Bishop's area. Int five councilors have already been elected
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: unopposed to the council, so not even contested. In the
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: East Community Board. They've all been elected on the post
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: five slots five people, no one going against them. Rosie,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: thank you for that. Clears you would it in clash
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: jats this morning, clear, good morning.
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: Good morning.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Now a new robotic lab in Canterbury's coming on. What's this?
• 21:17
  Speaker 11: Yeah, this is ARL's purpose built soil testing lab, which
• 21:20
  Speaker 11: is opening in Roliston today after their previous one at
• 21:23
  Speaker 11: Hawk's Bay was destroyed during a cyclone. Gabrielle. This lab
• 21:26
  Speaker 11: will boost New Zealand's capacity for soil testing. Their new
• 21:31
  Speaker 11: lab is fifty percent bigger than the previous one they
• 21:33
  Speaker 11: had and also uses robots to test to double testing capabilities.
• 21:39
  Speaker 11: Now Agnition CEO Jasper van Holder says no jobs are
• 21:43
  Speaker 11: being launched from adding robotics. They have taken out some
• 21:46
  Speaker 11: manual labor though, but ultimately the robot means that they
• 21:49
  Speaker 11: can do double the work with half the number of people.
• 21:52
  Speaker 11: Plus the person looking after the robot can also be
• 21:55
  Speaker 11: doing other tasks at the same time, meaning the lab
• 21:58
  Speaker 11: is more productive overall.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, because I was going to say, if they bring
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: a robot and they have to fire people, surely otherwise
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: it's you.
• 22:05
  Speaker 11: And I have to wonder if the person looking after
• 22:07
  Speaker 11: the robot is of a lower skill level and maybe
• 22:09
  Speaker 11: lower pay.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Yes, good point. How's your weather clear?
• 22:14
  Speaker 11: Frosty and very cold here to start minus three at
• 22:17
  Speaker 11: the moment. Some light winds at northeasterly is developing and
• 22:20
  Speaker 11: we will get to ten degrees.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Max and Wellington A Max, good morning. You've
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: got a problem with local government candidates? No, well you
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: just talked about it.
• 22:29
  Speaker 12: Yes, so five councilors elected unopposed already in Lower Hearts,
• 22:33
  Speaker 12: all of the Eastbourne Community Board elected unopposed. This was
• 22:36
  Speaker 12: pointed out by a local MP, Christ Bishop, over the
• 22:39
  Speaker 12: weekend called it depressing. We spend so much of our
• 22:42
  Speaker 12: time analyzing these people, counselors, their decisions. They can be
• 22:46
  Speaker 12: monumental for a city, town region. Yet generally speaking, the
• 22:50
  Speaker 12: number putting their hands up is not trending in the
• 22:52
  Speaker 12: right direction. And that's evident. Now that nominations are closed
• 22:56
  Speaker 12: and the last local elections twenty percent of elections were
• 22:59
  Speaker 12: uncan tested, we are still tallying up this one. Some
• 23:03
  Speaker 12: academics are talking about the rise and abuse possibly being
• 23:06
  Speaker 12: a factor. Why would you want to put your hand up?
• 23:08
  Speaker 12: Trust going down in elected officials. Voter turn out relatively low,
• 23:13
  Speaker 12: here in Wellington. Unless something remarkable happens, the meryoral race
• 23:16
  Speaker 12: looks more like a procession. Younger generations less likely to
• 23:20
  Speaker 12: vote as well, less likely to enroll. Fingers crossed, though
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: twenty twenty five could still end up bucking the trend.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Hey, on the bright side, my parents sent me a
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: text on the weekend when I thought of you Max,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: it's a clown. You've got a clown running in the
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: mayoral race. Oh and he's wanting to turn the base
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: and Reserve back into a swamp. This is a big policy.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Something metaphorical there you. How's your weather?
• 23:45
  Speaker 12: Cloudy periods with isolated showers? Eleven the High Center one.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Ney of good morning, good morning. You've got
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: a woman jew in Auckland's north Shore District court today.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: What's this about?
• 23:55
  Speaker 13: This is a terrible story. Look, a toddler was found
• 23:58
  Speaker 13: in a suitcase and the luggage compartment of a bus.
• 24:01
  Speaker 13: Now this happened yesterday, yesterday afternoon, about one o'clock, so
• 24:05
  Speaker 13: an Orthan's kiwaker the bus driver discovered. Can you believe this?
• 24:09
  Speaker 13: A two year old girl inside a suitcase which was moving.
• 24:12
  Speaker 13: I think what had happened was alive alive, Thank goodness,
• 24:15
  Speaker 13: she was alive. So I think one of the passengers
• 24:18
  Speaker 13: on board wanted something, you know, in the luggage department
• 24:21
  Speaker 13: and in their bag, and so Kaiwaker was one of
• 24:24
  Speaker 13: the stops and so he stopped off, Thank goodness for that,
• 24:26
  Speaker 13: and then he was getting something for Another passenger saw
• 24:29
  Speaker 13: this bag moving, thought what the flip and heck is
• 24:31
  Speaker 13: that opened it up? And a two year old was
• 24:33
  Speaker 13: in there. So she was unharmed, very hot though she
• 24:36
  Speaker 13: could imagine taken to hospital. And we can tell you
• 24:39
  Speaker 13: that a twenty seven year old woman's being charged with neglect.
• 24:42
  Speaker 13: Ordung A Tambadiki's been notified. She I know, and you
• 24:46
  Speaker 13: kind of think, well, why why would you do that?
• 24:48
  Speaker 13: Are you trying to save money on for affair or
• 24:50
  Speaker 13: what did they get on for free? Or is it
• 24:56
  Speaker 13: something like ten dollars for a two year old? Goodness sake?
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: All right, how's our weather?
• 25:01
  Speaker 13: Happy news now mainly fine, cloudy periods increasing towards evening.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Fourteen is a home, Thank goodness, that where girls found. Yes,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: thank goodness, thank you, Neva seventeen away from six yer
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: on news Talk ZB. We'll get to Gavin Gray out
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: of the UK next good news for Milford this morning
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: They've just taken out Consumer New Zealand People's Choice Award
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: KEIW Saver for their Milford keiw Saver plan and that
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: makes it eight years on the trot for them. Now
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: there's also morning Star's latest independence survey. This is found
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: at Morningstar dot com dot au and this shows that
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Milford has had the number one performing keiwisaver funds and
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: the growth, balanced and conservative categories for returns for the
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: past ten years. All of this is down to Milford's
• 25:46
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• 25:49
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• 25:51
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• 25:54
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• 26:00
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• 26:03
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• 26:12
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• 26:19
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• 26:23
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• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Thirteen Away from six News Talks here Bgevin Gray, UK
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Europe Correspondent, Gavin We've got more moves from the government
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: in the UK on the Channel crossings.
• 26:42
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm afraid it has become a dominant news story
• 26:45
  Speaker 14: about the number of migrants crossing by small boats. Last
• 26:48
  Speaker 14: week we were reporting more than twenty five thousand have
• 26:52
  Speaker 14: arrived in small boats illegally across the English Channel from
• 26:55
  Speaker 14: France into the UK in twenty twenty five, so far,
• 26:58
  Speaker 14: a record for this point in the year. Today, the
• 27:02
  Speaker 14: government has announced that people advertising illegal channing crossms online
• 27:07
  Speaker 14: could face up to five years in prison under a
• 27:10
  Speaker 14: new offense they wanted to bring in. Now, you may
• 27:11
  Speaker 14: think what advertising online, Yes, because, according to the government's analysis,
• 27:16
  Speaker 14: eighty percent of migrants arriving in the UK via a
• 27:19
  Speaker 14: small boat tell officials that they used social media during
• 27:23
  Speaker 14: their journey, many of them to contact agents linked to
• 27:27
  Speaker 14: people smuggling gangs. Indeed, recently they've had cases of Albanian people,
• 27:32
  Speaker 14: smugglers who have used social media platforms to promote twenty
• 27:36
  Speaker 14: four thousand New Zealand dollar package deals. That's what they
• 27:39
  Speaker 14: described them as, in order to get somebody to Britain
• 27:42
  Speaker 14: illegally and then get them accommodation and employment upon arrival.
• 27:46
  Speaker 14: It is quite extraordinary. But the opposition party to say
• 27:49
  Speaker 14: this plan is too little, too late, that the government's
• 27:52
  Speaker 14: lost control of them its borders, and what a fine
• 27:57
  Speaker 14: mess we appear.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: To be in goodness, may what about this old guy
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: who put some kind of poison and sweets that were
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: given to kids? What was going on here? Do we know?
• 28:09
  Speaker 14: Well, those are the allegations and no we don't have
• 28:11
  Speaker 14: many details. But a seventy six year old man has
• 28:14
  Speaker 14: now appeared in court facing charges to a number of
• 28:18
  Speaker 14: children falling ill at a summer camp in the Midlands
• 28:21
  Speaker 14: in Leicestershire. To be more precise, eight children and one
• 28:25
  Speaker 14: adult from this camp in Stathurn were taken to hospital.
• 28:30
  Speaker 14: All were discharged quite quickly. But a man, seventy six
• 28:34
  Speaker 14: year old man has been charged with three counts of
• 28:37
  Speaker 14: wilful ill treatment of a child relating to three boys.
• 28:40
  Speaker 14: At the end of last month, what does that mean.
• 28:42
  Speaker 14: We're basically wilfully assaulting, ill, treating, neglecting, abandoned, or exposing
• 28:48
  Speaker 14: three boys to unnecessary suffering or injury to health. Again,
• 28:51
  Speaker 14: what does all that mean? Because it's all the legal talk. Basically,
• 28:54
  Speaker 14: it has suggested that this man laced suites with sedatives
• 28:59
  Speaker 14: for the children at the summer camp and they fell
• 29:02
  Speaker 14: ill afterwards. As I said, all allegations. The man didn't
• 29:05
  Speaker 14: make a plead at this particular point. Incidentally, he's not
• 29:09
  Speaker 14: the only one being investigated here. The police didn't turn
• 29:13
  Speaker 14: up for twenty four hours after problems were initially reported
• 29:18
  Speaker 14: to them, and now the police are in their own
• 29:21
  Speaker 14: kind of doc if you like, that's going to be
• 29:23
  Speaker 14: investigated the police force for the handling of that incident.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: All right, Kevin, appreciate that. Kevin Gray are UK europe
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: correspondent just gone ten away from six right and Bridge
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Rich take announcement this morning on in Cea and its future.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Will it be script entirely? Will parts of it be kipped?
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: We'll find out by nine o'clock this morning. Consultation will
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: be launched on up the wazoo. You can imagine the teachers,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: the parents, industry, will have a chance to have a say.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Chris Hebercrombie is the PPTA president. Chris, good morning, good morning.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Have you seen what the plan is? No?
• 29:54
  Speaker 9: No, I'm not giving a briefing until a week beforehand.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, And what do you think they're going to do
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: is throw and a bin start again or keep some bits.
• 30:03
  Speaker 9: Well, there's some really good bits to it, and so
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: hopefully they build on the system. Of course, it's not perfect.
• 30:08
  Speaker 9: We know this, and in recent years has been really
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: whiteseat agreement on improvements needed. So we hope we don't
• 30:13
  Speaker 9: throw it out and we don't improve on what we need.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: What the what's the biggest thing that needs improvement? Is
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: it the you know, the consistency depending on what you're studying,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: or is it the way that things are assessed.
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: It's a bit of both. So we need what we know,
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: we need a bit more coherency and around subjects and
• 30:32
  Speaker 9: development in that area, and we also just need a
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: weave a bit more issue in making clear vocational pathways
• 30:38
  Speaker 9: and just a simpler structure.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: So what does that mean making clear the vocational pathways?
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: If you don't want to go to university, then there's
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: something else for you to do and this is how
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: you do it exactly.
• 30:49
  Speaker 9: So at the moment, it's really reliant on schools and
• 30:52
  Speaker 9: their relationship with local politechs, businesses, et cetera. There's no
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: real clear national pathways and so someone around that area
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: would be fountastic.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Getting the schools closer to the polytechs.
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: Well, it could be polytechts, could be business, could be
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: other things. Schools do amazing things through gateway programs and
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: other work experience programs, but there's no real national policy around.
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: This is all schools leaving it up to themselves in
• 31:16
  Speaker 9: their relationships with individual businesses polytechs. If they happened to
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: have one in their community.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: What's the one thing you don't want them to go near.
• 31:25
  Speaker 9: We'd hate for it to scrap the standards based assessment
• 31:28
  Speaker 9: because at the heart of it is about rewarding students
• 31:30
  Speaker 9: what for what they know, and they can demonstrate their
• 31:33
  Speaker 9: knowledge and they have all opportunities to succeed the older
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: system which had a built in failure rate. We don't
• 31:39
  Speaker 9: want to see that happen.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Chris, appreciate your time. Chris Abercrombi PPTA President. That decision
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: will be out by nine o'clock This morning disc on
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: eight to six.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and ex Full Insulation keeping Kiwi homes warm
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and dry this winter News.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Talks, that'd be folks six to six on News Talks,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: he'd be Wednesday. We will get our stats in set
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: update on employment. This is for the June quarter. We'll
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: get an unemployment number, which would probably be going up
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: to five point three percent. They reckon from five point
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: one percent. We will get an employment number and we
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: will get information about our wages. Doesn't feel like they've
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: been going up with inflation, but apparently they are ahead
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: of it. That's Wednesday this week, just gone five to
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: six and the big NCAA announcement coming before nine o'clock.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Mike's in the studio this morning. Make good morning. You
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: grouped by that, Well, it depends what they do. I
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: suppose do they get Well, I.
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: Tell you what they'll initially do, is they whatever they announced,
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: they'll go, We're going to consult on it. So it's month,
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: it's months down the track. My big concern was, and
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: I've gone through this in the last few years with kids,
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: is that the idea was that by the time you
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: got to year thirteen, you could choose whatever you wanted. Yeah, so,
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: and that was good for the kid who was engaged.
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: So if you had a plan in life, you could
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: go I'm going to channel myself in that direction. Because
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: when I was at school, and you'll be the same,
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: you had to do maths, you had to do English,
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: you had to do with science and all that crap
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: that may or may not have been relevant to you.
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: And my suspicion is today they're going to go back
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: to that. Well because the tse of school, no, it's not.
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: The powers of school for people who are engaged is
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: to channel. And this where university comes and you channel
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: yourself in the direction you want to go. Problem is
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: it's weakest link, lowest common denominator. Everyone does drama and
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: does so.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: My brother left school before he was well when he
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: was sixteen. I stayed because I wanted to go to UNI.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: So I learned all that stuff that I had to learn.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: But if you are not wanting to go to university
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: or keep going with education, then aren't you better off
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Like in a business? Yeah, I agree, you knowing an apprenticeship,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: but there's place for you to be.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: Falling between stools is what I'm saying. The more prescriptive
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: they get, the more trouble they're going to have. It
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: suit some people. That's not you know, the moment you
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: get a test, you're going to have people failing. When
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  Speaker 6: you have people failing and go oh, we can't have
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  Speaker 6: so many people failing.
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  Speaker 3: They have to fix the exam versus internal thing though.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's got to happen today.
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  Speaker 6: So the proof isn't putting prime ministers. And by the way,
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  Speaker 6: with the terroriffs, have.
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  Speaker 3: A great day of run. See you tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Exkip what.
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