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Joe Tacopina | Defense Attorney Breaks Down Trump Administration's Legal Battle Against Sanctuary Cities · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: So we just celebrated Columbus Day. Now Sunday in Williamsburg,
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  Speaker 1: my guy Joe Nunziata and the Julio boys will have
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  Speaker 1: their day so the Italians are still celebrating. How was
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  Speaker 1: your Columbus Day, Joseph?
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  Speaker 2: I was in D.C. with the Army. So it was
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  Speaker 2: an Army event. So it was just a regular American
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  Speaker 2: day for me. It wasn't a Columbus. And, you know, look,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know Mondami was not showing up. I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: he didn't. Of course, he's a racist and You know,
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  Speaker 2: if this were the Palestinian Day Parade, he'd be there
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  Speaker 2: with a flag and everything else with that stupid smile.
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  Speaker 2: But I knew he didn't show up because I saw
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  Speaker 2: you there. So I knew there was no way.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, I actually did. No, I threatened the organizers.
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  Speaker 3: They get me this convertible every year. And I threatened him.
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  Speaker 1: I said, not threaten him. I love those people. But
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  Speaker 1: if the mayor shows up, I'm not coming. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: doing it. But he was, listen, he ain't showing up
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  Speaker 1: at the San Gennaro feast. He's not showing up at
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  Speaker 1: the Columbus state parade because, and don't get mad because
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  Speaker 1: I know you hate the mob stereotype, but if somebody's
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  Speaker 1: going to punch him in the base, it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be an Italian.
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  Speaker 2: Trust me. And you don't have to be a monster
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  Speaker 2: to do that, dude. I'd punch him in the face.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not part of a crime family, so you
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  Speaker 2: just have to be someone who hates to be stereotyped,
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  Speaker 2: someone who hates to be really discriminated against, which he does.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he absolutely does. You want to talk about
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  Speaker 2: Christopher Columbus? We could talk about Christopher Columbus all day long.
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  Speaker 2: If you know the facts, we'll talk about him and
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  Speaker 2: what he's done. And basically, we wouldn't be United States.
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  Speaker 3: Of America without him.
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  Speaker 2: You want to say he owned Indians and whatever? God,
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  Speaker 2: who cares? It was a different time.
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  Speaker 3: They all did it back then. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: My goodness gracious. So stupid.
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  Speaker 1: You know who marched that day, Joe? You're going to
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  Speaker 1: love this. Well, the wretched governor was there. But you
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  Speaker 1: know who marched with the wretched governor side by side?
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  Speaker 3: Any idea? Your favorite person.
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  Speaker 2: Who? Who?
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  Speaker 3: No, he was there.
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  Speaker 1: He was standing by himself on the corner of 47th
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  Speaker 1: and 5th, and I came by my Cadillac, and I
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  Speaker 1: swear to God, it was moving like a mile an hour,
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  Speaker 1: and the car pulled up to Curtis, and I said, hey, Curtis,
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  Speaker 1: how does Mamdani's bleep taste? And he laughed, and he smiled,
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  Speaker 1: and we drove away. Now, your favorite person standing next
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  Speaker 1: to Hochul at that parade, why she would be at
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  Speaker 1: the Columbus Day Parade, I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: Leticia James?
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  Speaker 3: Yes!
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, well, she's a true Italian-loving individual. I mean, please... Please,
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  Speaker 2: these politicians will make me sick, I've got to be
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  Speaker 2: honest with you. Be there if you support what the
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  Speaker 2: Columbus Day Parade's about, Christopher Columbus, the Italian heritage. Be
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  Speaker 2: there for that reason. Don't be there because you think
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  Speaker 2: you have to show up because you're a politician. Letitia James,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think the world, as far as you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think she's a very capable prosecutor. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: she has any biases or anything like that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: what kind of prosecutor on day one says, oh, my God,
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  Speaker 2: these guys are rapists, and I stand with the victim
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  Speaker 2: of the Cornell incident. And then day two gets appointed
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  Speaker 2: by Governor Hochul, who apparently didn't read the quote the
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  Speaker 2: day before, and appoints her to be a fair and
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  Speaker 2: unbiased prosecutor. And then she goes out there and says, well,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to follow the law. You know, we have no... Wait,
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  Speaker 2: a day ago you were an advocate for these seven
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  Speaker 2: guys being executed, basically. Yeah. Now today you're the prosecutor
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  Speaker 2: in charge of determining whether they'll be charged?
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  Speaker 3: I'm begging you. I mean, you've got to be kidding me.
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  Speaker 3: Two things about that.
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  Speaker 1: Our girl Saritha, she was there too at the parade,
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  Speaker 1: and I want Saritha to beat James so badly she
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  Speaker 1: kicked her ass.
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  Speaker 3: In the debate. Just like Blakeman kicked Hochul's ass in
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  Speaker 3: the debate.
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  Speaker 1: But in that debate, Blakeman brought up the fact, when
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  Speaker 1: the Cornell thing came up, Blakeman said, hey, Kathy, aren't
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  Speaker 1: you a trustee?
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  Speaker 3: She's an alumnus. She's a trustee. She's on the board.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, what did you do? What did this school do?
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  Speaker 3: You did nothing. You did nothing.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was one of the great moments of
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  Speaker 1: that debate when Bruce Blakeman looked at Kathy.
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  Speaker 3: Hochul and said, you're part of the problem at Cornell.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that was huge.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Now, Bruce is phenomenal. Look, I love Bruce. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I met him really through you. And so, look, we
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  Speaker 2: need him. We need him. We need to change so
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  Speaker 2: badly up in Albany. We really do. And Bruce is phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen him speak live. And, you know, he's New Yorker.
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  Speaker 2: And he's someone who will help put back sanity into
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  Speaker 2: this city. I mean, you talked about the battery car thing.
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  Speaker 2: That's one little stupid thing, right? But that's a big thing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that is a crazy big thing. But when
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  Speaker 2: you don't have safety on the streets, And that's what
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  Speaker 2: we don't have. And when you're chasing out our biggest
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  Speaker 2: taxpayers and philanthropic donors like Ken Griffin or, you know,
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  Speaker 2: now all of a sudden Amazon's threatening to leave because
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  Speaker 2: of the mayor's policies and, you know, their workers here.
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  Speaker 2: It's just, it's unbelievable the damage he's doing. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: think he could do it. I figured out we're New
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  Speaker 2: York City. We're the greatest city in the world. The biggest,
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  Speaker 2: the toughest in the world. There's no single person that
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  Speaker 2: could bring us to our knees. This guy's actually doing
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  Speaker 2: some real damage. And it's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: And it's only nine months.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's not nine months. It's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Amazon is now saying, you know, we need safe conditions
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  Speaker 2: for our employers, for our works. We're going to move
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  Speaker 2: them out. And, you know, this act that the mayor
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  Speaker 2: is proposing is something that Amazon, if they close city
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  Speaker 2: delivery facilities and move thousands of jobs outside New York City.
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  Speaker 2: It's another blow to this economy.
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  Speaker 3: Of course.
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  Speaker 2: We're losing. I mean, the people who are moving to Florida,
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  Speaker 2: South Carolina, wherever, because they can't stand this guy. And
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  Speaker 2: he's hurting our city so bad. Forget about his policies.
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  Speaker 2: Forget about the fact that I think he's a jihadist,
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  Speaker 2: the fact that he's an anti-Semite, the fact that I
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  Speaker 2: think he doesn't love this country. All that stuff aside,
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  Speaker 2: that's bad enough. But practically speaking, he's really doing damage
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  Speaker 2: to this city. You know, I spoke to Ken. When
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  Speaker 2: Ken Griffin went– you know, that stunt where he stayed
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  Speaker 2: outside this guy's house. This guy has done more for
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  Speaker 2: New York City than you could do in 100 lifetimes. Okay? Okay. Mandami,
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  Speaker 2: 100 lifetimes. And aside from the $ 6 billion he pays
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  Speaker 2: in taxes every year, whatever it is, some crazy number,
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  Speaker 2: he donates $ 600 million to philanthropic causes, donates to New
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  Speaker 2: York City. annually 600 million said i mean and we
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  Speaker 2: just basically say get out get out we don't want
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  Speaker 2: you no no instead we want people who want to
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  Speaker 2: collect welfare checks who listen i don't there are people
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  Speaker 2: who have hard lives and and have bad luck in
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  Speaker 2: life and and people are born into poverty you i
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  Speaker 2: want them to be okay we want to help them
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  Speaker 2: we have to help our our our weakest but not
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  Speaker 2: the way he's doing it where basically you're incentivized to
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  Speaker 2: be a lazy no good piece.
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  Speaker 1: Of course There's a bunch of able-bodied people that are
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  Speaker 1: sitting home every day smoking weed and watching cartoons. And
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  Speaker 1: I get up at 3 o'clock in the morning and
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  Speaker 1: you get up in the middle of the night and
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  Speaker 1: work all day long.
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  Speaker 3: We pay for these losers. Give me this story. The U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Judge tosses Trump administration lawsuit over New York City sanctuary laws.
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  Speaker 3: Why? What's the deal with that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, my position on this is straightforward. You have
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  Speaker 2: to respect constitutional limits, protect due process, and build a
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  Speaker 2: system that allows lawful cooperation where public safety demands it, right?
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  Speaker 2: So the judge didn't stop deportations. Let's make sure this
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  Speaker 2: is clear to your listeners. This decision concerns local assistance
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  Speaker 2: to federal immigration enforcement. It doesn't eliminate the federal government's
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  Speaker 2: own enforcement authority. So ICE is coming here tomorrow, right?
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  Speaker 2: So the legal question and the public safety question really
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  Speaker 2: deserve separate answers. The federal the judge said basically that
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  Speaker 2: the federal government cannot force New York to use its
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  Speaker 2: personnel and its resources to enforce. federal immigration law. So
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  Speaker 2: that's a serious constitutional issue. City officials still have to,
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  Speaker 2: the judge even said that city officials still have to
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  Speaker 2: explain their policy choices. So when someone has been convicted
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  Speaker 2: of a serious violent crime, the public deserves a lawful
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  Speaker 2: effective system for cooperation between local and federal authorities. You
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  Speaker 2: can't do what Mondami wants to do, which is make
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  Speaker 2: them the enemy. They're not the enemy. They're our federal government.
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  Speaker 2: We have to, we've always worked. When Giuliani was mayor,
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  Speaker 2: federal and local authorities were hand in hand. That's why
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  Speaker 2: we had safest city at the time. So supporters of
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  Speaker 2: the sanctuary policies argue that the community trust helps victims
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  Speaker 2: and witnesses come forward. That concern deserves real consideration, right?
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  Speaker 2: But so does the need to protect the public from
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  Speaker 2: dangerous offenders. So it's... You know, it's ridiculous, but don't forget,
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  Speaker 2: it's not quite as bad as it sounds. Okay. Because
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  Speaker 2: the federal authority to come in here and do what
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  Speaker 2: they want to do, Washington has broad authority over immigration.
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  Speaker 2: So that doesn't automatically, you know, give them authority to
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  Speaker 2: order the local police to carry out federal immigration. But
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  Speaker 2: they can come in here and do their own thing.
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  Speaker 3: Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: Why am I still seeing all this coverage around this
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  Speaker 1: one particular juror in this Lindsey Clancy trial?
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  Speaker 3: Are we ever really going to get a finish with
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  Speaker 3: that trial?
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're in a new world. I mean, I've
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  Speaker 2: been trying cases for a long time, and I've just
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  Speaker 2: not ever seen the point where the juror becomes a story.
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  Speaker 2: The juror has a lawyer. The juror has a press
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  Speaker 2: agent now. And, you know, for some reason, this country
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  Speaker 2: was fascinated with that trial.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I understand the fascination.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the mother kills three children. That's, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's really about as bad as it gets. No, no.
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  Speaker 2: I know that. Of course, it was a tragedy. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when you had some of the people supporting
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  Speaker 2: her like she were some sort of a saint or
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  Speaker 2: something like that. She's either the biggest monster ever created
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  Speaker 2: or the sickest human being alive. She's not a hero.
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  Speaker 2: She's not a hero in any stretch, right? Some of
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  Speaker 2: these people were, you know, and it's just, it's mind-boggling.
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  Speaker 2: And then, you know, her lawyers making ridiculous things like
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  Speaker 2: asking Trump for a pardon when he knows full well,
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  Speaker 2: unless he didn't go to law school, like the new
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  Speaker 2: press secretary for the White House. You know, well, Trump
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  Speaker 2: can't pardon someone on a state conviction. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: speaking of which, your friend should have been the press secretary.
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  Speaker 3: Liz Pipko, right? Of course.
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  Speaker 2: This is amazing. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Kate, the Zachariah girl.
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  Speaker 1: Was on Fox News moments ago. Now, now, in all fairness,
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  Speaker 1: she was a lot better with Brian, Lindsay, Lawrence and
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  Speaker 1: Ainsley this morning. than she was behind that podium a
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  Speaker 1: couple of days ago. And maybe she'll get better. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it was day one. It's a very nerve-wracking job. She
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  Speaker 1: knows Trump, watches everything she says. But she was awful.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way Pipko would have been better day one.
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  Speaker 2: There's no way. Anyone in your studio there, Lou, Justin,
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  Speaker 2: those are two smart guys, so I should use them
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  Speaker 2: as examples. The guy who cleans the coffee pots in
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  Speaker 2: the back would have been better.
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  Speaker 3: It was hard, dude.
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  Speaker 2: She was reading, mispronouncing things, putting the wrong gate into
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  Speaker 2: the speech, like stopping when she wasn't supposed to stop,
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  Speaker 2: reading everything, looking up, laughing, calling her husband the president.
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  Speaker 2: I mean– God damn.
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  Speaker 3: You couldn't have.
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  Speaker 2: Started off worse than that. And then now, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the problem with this world that we live in now
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  Speaker 2: where everything's recorded, and you say, oh, I'm a lawyer,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a lawyer, I'm a lawyer.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 2: That's a problem.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess if you go to law school, which
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  Speaker 1: Ava's going for her master's in law at UPenn right now,
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  Speaker 1: and she graduated in the UK.
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  Speaker 3: And my wife, of course, is a great attorney like you.
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  Speaker 3: So when you go to law school, you mean you're
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  Speaker 3: not a lawyer? You mean you got to pass the bar?
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  Speaker 2: Really? Well, okay. I said, thank God. So you've been sarcastic.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Going to law school gives you the right to
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  Speaker 2: take the bar exam. It doesn't make you a lawyer.
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  Speaker 2: Otherwise we don't need a bar exam. So yes, she was.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, let's not forget by the way, JFK Jr.
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  Speaker 3: God rest his soul. I love that guy. Great looking guy. Mr.
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  Speaker 3: New York. My wife still loves him to this day.
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  Speaker 1: God, she would If he was still alive, she'd kick
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  Speaker 1: me out in 15 seconds.
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  Speaker 3: I think he failed the bar, what, three or four times?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, three or four times, and they gave him a
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  Speaker 2: special room with, like, soft music or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he failed the bar. He failed the
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  Speaker 2: bar a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Is that true?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. His last one, he's like.
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  Speaker 3: They played special, like, soft music?
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  Speaker 2: Dude, he got a lot of... After he kept failing
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  Speaker 2: the bar, they were like, Jesus Christ, this is Kennedy's sub.
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  Speaker 2: We got to do something here. So I think the
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  Speaker 2: bar questions then became, like, you know, you can answer
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  Speaker 2: and spray on. It's A or B. So, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I passed the bar the first time, thank God.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you did. So did Danielle. She passed the bar
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  Speaker 3: the first time in New York and Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not easy.
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  Speaker 3: There we go. This is the music. We got it now.
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  Speaker 3: This is the music they're actually playing in the background.
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  Speaker 3: When Junior... This is.
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  Speaker 2: The one where he passed the.
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  Speaker 3: Ball. Oh, Johnny Mathis. You can't go wrong with Johnny Mathis.
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  Speaker 3: All right. So back to your friend.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to say one thing, though. I've seen
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  Speaker 2: this is really she's going to let maybe Scaramucci is
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  Speaker 2: going to be the press secretary longer than she's going
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  Speaker 2: to be, because it's unbelievable. She's saying she's a lawyer,
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  Speaker 2: but she's not. You know, she's an attorney at law,
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  Speaker 2: but not a lawyer. She's trying to make a distinction.
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  Speaker 2: There is no distinction. All you are when you graduate
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  Speaker 2: law school. is a law school graduate. That's great. That's good.
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  Speaker 3: You're a JD.
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  Speaker 2: You have a Juris Doctor. It doesn't mean you're an attorney.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you're an attorney at law. She's killed
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  Speaker 2: all the distinctions and she's really, you know, and that,
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  Speaker 2: but apparently she went to China. She did. And put
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  Speaker 2: the bar there, which is impossible. One, she doesn't speak Chinese. Two,
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  Speaker 2: and more importantly, you must be a Chinese citizen to
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  Speaker 2: become a lawyer in China.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So, Meh, that didn't work. And the best part was,
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  Speaker 2: did you see Trump's face when someone asked her? She's like,
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  Speaker 2: when did you pass the bar? It's like, ah, what's
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  Speaker 2: in China? Trump was like, ah. Dude, that was awesome.
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  Speaker 3: He handled it very, very well.
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  Speaker 2: He did. Of course he did.
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  Speaker 1: He had a rough week between Kimberly Gilpoyle on Monday
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  Speaker 1: and Zachariah on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 3: Poor Kimberly.
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  Speaker 2: My client and my friend have known her for a
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  Speaker 2: long time, so have you. That was upsetting. I feel
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  Speaker 2: really bad for her. She went from being a step
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  Speaker 2: away from being in the family. you know, engage the
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  Speaker 2: junior and whatnot to, you know, being really.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I know you represent her, and I, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was friendly with her, very friendly.
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  Speaker 3: She was on the show many times, and I did
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  Speaker 3: a bench with her and Junior, but you don't think
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  Speaker 3: she's innocent, do you?
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  Speaker 2: Well, innocent of what? I don't think there's any crime.
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  Speaker 2: It's not about.
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  Speaker 1: No, not about a crime, but I mean, you don't
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  Speaker 1: think that she pressured this guy to give her $ 100, 000
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  Speaker 1: and all that stuff?
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  Speaker 2: And this guy, don't forget, he has a checkered past, right?
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  Speaker 2: He was disbarred, I heard, or something of that nature.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but I heard he's got a checkered past.
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  Speaker 2: And look, what she's saying is that he asked for...
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  Speaker 2: Things of her. He used her as a consultant. This
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  Speaker 2: was before she became a master.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, she went further.
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  Speaker 1: She actually tried to deny it and said those messages
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  Speaker 1: were sent by AI.
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  Speaker 2: If that's the case, then that's a game-setting match. That's
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  Speaker 2: when you... You guys know, if I were representing her
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  Speaker 2: in this one, I'd be like, embrace it, grab it,
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  Speaker 2: and say, this is what happened. He owed me this.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: money and go back and show the work you did
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: for him as a consultant. All these people, the problem
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: is all these big money people want to pay for access, right?
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: They want to pay for access. And when you're in
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Kimberly's position, you have to be uber, uber sensitive to that.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Very careful because you can't sell access to the president
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: of the White House or the administration. You cannot do it.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: That's a crime.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: They were furious. Marco Rubio was really pissed. Marco was
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: actually more pissed than President Trump is what I heard.
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  Speaker 1: But she's a nice girl. We like her. And she'll
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: end up on her feet. She'll be back in Miami
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: and living a nice life.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: Joe Tacopini, you're always amazing, man. Everybody, you're so great.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: And I love you. And we'll do it again next week, buddy.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, my brother.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: My man.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: The great defense attorney right there. My friend of 49 years.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: The amazing Joseph Tacopini.
• 15:23
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• 15:29
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  Speaker 3: See you next time for a new episode so you
• 15:50
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• 15:52
  Speaker 1: What the heck is going on here?