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COPS: CREEPY TEEN STALKER TRACKS GIRLS 4 MONTHS, MOWS DOWN VICTIMS RIDING E-BIKE · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: According to police, a creepy teen stalker poaches girls for
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  Speaker 2: months before mowing down the two little girl victims, who
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  Speaker 2: are riding their e bike on a quiet neighborhood street.
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  Speaker 1: Mowed them down dead.
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  Speaker 2: I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. I want to
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  Speaker 2: thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: Two teen girls from New Jersey were best friends who
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  Speaker 3: shared countless school days and weekend adventures, found their latest
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  Speaker 3: journey ending in unimaginable tragedy.
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  Speaker 1: Uh oh, my stars.
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  Speaker 2: How many times has my son or daughter gone for
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  Speaker 2: a walk or gone to ride their bike?
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I'd be a.
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  Speaker 2: Little bit worried, but it would be hard to imagine
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  Speaker 2: that someone was waiting around the corner, revving the motor
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  Speaker 2: of their jeep, waiting to see them go by so
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  Speaker 2: they could floor it and mow them down.
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  Speaker 1: Not really even an accident.
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  Speaker 2: I'm having a hard time making sense of what I
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  Speaker 2: am learning about these two little girls.
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  Speaker 1: Now dead, and for what a creepy teens stalker? They're dead?
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  Speaker 1: How are the parents making any sense? Look at her?
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  Speaker 1: Look at her cute little makeup and her cute little eyelashes.
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  Speaker 1: How hard did she? How long did it take her
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  Speaker 1: to do that, just trying to look cute, trying to look.
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  Speaker 2: Like some magazine. Oh look at the other little girl. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I am telling you. These facts are
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  Speaker 2: like nothing else I've seen. And just think of it
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  Speaker 2: and their own little neighborhood. Mom and dad see them
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  Speaker 2: go out the door and think, oh, they're going for
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  Speaker 2: a bike ride. Good, listen to this here.
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  Speaker 4: Mom just screamed, I heard it outside my window, and
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  Speaker 4: she was just I she heard a loud scream and
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  Speaker 4: I ran out my door and she's just crying.
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  Speaker 3: Maria and Isabella are best friends, attached at the hip.
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  Speaker 3: Maria grows up in Cranford, New Jersey. She loves makeup.
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  Speaker 3: Isabella loves to sing and act, a choir and drama
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  Speaker 3: club member at Cranford High, her church, and the community theater.
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  Speaker 3: As usual, the girls head to Maria's house after school
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  Speaker 3: Monday and go for a bike ride at Golden Hour.
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  Speaker 2: Some of that that first sentance from our friends that
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  Speaker 2: picks eleven the so called Golden Air straight out to
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  Speaker 2: Melissa McCarty joining US investigative reporter, hosts of The Killer
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  Speaker 2: Jean's podcast, and author of the Making of a Crime
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  Speaker 2: reporter Melissa McCarty, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I got to take this from A to Z.
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  Speaker 1: I want to.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the story really stars months before when the
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  Speaker 2: stalking occurred, and I would like to report that the
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  Speaker 2: parents tried to handle it then and nothing was done,
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  Speaker 2: and now their daughter is dead. Their daughter and a
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  Speaker 2: little bestie are dead. Melissa, I don't want to start
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  Speaker 2: with the three months before when the stalking allegedly started.
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  Speaker 2: I want to start with the day of the murders.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, I'm saying murders, Melissa, don't start with me
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  Speaker 2: about a crash or an accident. Don't say accident. Don't
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  Speaker 2: say it, Okay, do not When there's a vehicular homicide
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  Speaker 2: and the person intends it, that is not an accident.
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  Speaker 1: So let's just go with crash for right now.
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  Speaker 2: Start at the beginning, when they walk out to go
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  Speaker 2: get on their little e bikes.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is definitely intentional. Now, so these two team
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  Speaker 5: best friends, both seventeen years old. They're out riding these
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  Speaker 5: electric bikes like any other day. Was in front of
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  Speaker 5: the family, Maria's family block. This is really important to mention.
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  Speaker 5: It was a quiet residential street. They felt safe the
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  Speaker 5: speed was twenty five miles per hour. They were riding
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  Speaker 5: along and that is when the driver came barreling down
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  Speaker 5: at seventy miles per hour. Definitely intention stuff from there.
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  Speaker 2: Who witnessed the seventy seven zero MP and this tree
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  Speaker 2: lined quiet neighborhood, guys, this is on Burnside Avenue, Cranford,
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  Speaker 2: New Jersey, just outside Maria's grandma's home. Some of her
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  Speaker 2: family actually witnessed the crash, not realizing Maria was involved.
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  Speaker 2: Modown by a black jeep compass with tinted windows, and
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  Speaker 2: there look at her riding their e bites. Okay, hold on,
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  Speaker 2: Melissa mccartiy, I'll be right back with you. Straight out
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  Speaker 2: to Lisa Herrick, board certified attorney specializing in juvenile crimes,
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  Speaker 2: which is a whole another animal.
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  Speaker 1: I hated JUV.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody in our office had to do a long stint
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  Speaker 2: in indictments and in a long stant in JUV, GV jail,
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  Speaker 2: juvenile justice, where a lot of times you would see
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  Speaker 2: the judge just sit around the circular table so nobody would.
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  Speaker 1: Be at the head and cause any hurt feelings, sit.
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  Speaker 2: Around a circular table and say to the defendant it
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  Speaker 2: could be somebody charged with murder or ray Perchamolins station
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  Speaker 2: or side of me on a child adope dealer, not
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  Speaker 2: a dope addict adope dealer. You know how the drug
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  Speaker 2: lords you love to use juveniles because when they get caught,
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  Speaker 2: they can only get you know, eighteen months. When the dealer,
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  Speaker 2: the real dealer or the drug lord gets.
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  Speaker 1: Caught, they get life.
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  Speaker 2: So they hand the drugs to the juvenile so they'll
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  Speaker 2: get a lighter cent. So the judge will be sitting
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  Speaker 2: on the table and look at the defendant, go, how
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  Speaker 2: are you feeling this morning?
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  Speaker 1: My teeth?
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  Speaker 2: I just want to gnaw through the file because in
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  Speaker 2: my mind I'm thinking about what happened to the crime victim. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: my point to you, Lisa Harritt, you're a veteran trial lawyer.
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  Speaker 2: Seventy miles an hour, seven zero.
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  Speaker 1: That's no accident, absolutely, Nancy.
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  Speaker 6: And so what you're talking about is that even the
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  Speaker 6: most serious offenses, when it involves a juvenile suspect or
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  Speaker 6: a juvenile respondent, defendant, whatever the jurisdiction word for that
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  Speaker 6: person is, even the most serious offenses do start in
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  Speaker 6: the juvenile court. The court is designed to be able
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  Speaker 6: to handle any.
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  Speaker 1: Type of offense.
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  Speaker 6: There are some exceptional circumstances sometimes where the court may
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  Speaker 6: transfer that case to an adult court, depending on exactly
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  Speaker 6: what it is that happens in whether or not the
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  Speaker 6: judge thinks that's.
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  Speaker 7: The appropriate course of action.
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  Speaker 2: We need, say certain circumstances. In certain circumstances, a juvenile
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  Speaker 2: case will be transferred or bound over to an adult
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  Speaker 2: court felony superior court, and they are typically across the country.
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  Speaker 2: Some variation the seven deadlies, including when the gmnile is
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  Speaker 2: charged with murder, rape, aggravated assaults such as a shooting
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  Speaker 2: or stabbing, armed robbery, child molestation, arson, and what would
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  Speaker 2: the other one be, maybe aggravated rape or aggravated child sodomy.
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  Speaker 2: All cases that deserve to be tried in adult court
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  Speaker 2: bowed over from juvenile to adult court.
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  Speaker 1: But of course it's not automatic.
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  Speaker 2: There is a hearing, a bind over hearing to determine
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  Speaker 2: will they really get an adult sentence?
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  Speaker 1: But I don't see any way out of that in
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  Speaker 1: this case.
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  Speaker 2: If it had really been an accident, why would he
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  Speaker 2: be flooring it seventy mph in a neighborhood. I could
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  Speaker 2: just see it right now, right outside Grandma's house. Melissa McCarty,
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  Speaker 2: sorry to interrupt, but I just wanted to clarify that
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  Speaker 2: seventy mph is no accident.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: What happened then, right, So the impact was so intense, Nancy,
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  Speaker 5: that one of the girls electric bikes wedged itself into
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  Speaker 5: his suv, the driver's suv, and stuck there while he
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  Speaker 5: tried to flee the scene. And this is the most
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  Speaker 5: traumatic and chill part. Her family witnessed it. Maria had
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  Speaker 5: a twin brother who also witnessed this, as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 5: They rushed out to help and found it was their
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  Speaker 5: daughter and her best friend.
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  Speaker 1: Melissa McCarty, You're absolutely right. Listen.
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  Speaker 8: At five point thirty Monday, Maria and Isabella ride their
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  Speaker 8: bikes in front of Maria's home with a speed limit
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  Speaker 8: of just twenty five. The girls feel comfortable riding in
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  Speaker 8: the street with no warning. A black Jeep Compass barrels
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  Speaker 8: down Burnside Avenue at nearly three times the speed limit
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  Speaker 8: never breaks, running Maria and Isabella down, then speeding off.
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  Speaker 8: Witnesses called nine to one one and rushed to the girls.
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  Speaker 8: Maria's family inconsolable. One of the girls is declared dead
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  Speaker 8: on the scene. While the other passes away. Minutes later
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  Speaker 8: at a hospital, her.
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  Speaker 4: Brother saw her get hit and they like, they said
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  Speaker 4: it was on purpose, and they just they were just
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  Speaker 4: crying from.
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  Speaker 1: Where fans at picks eleven.
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  Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace to John Pizarro joining US.
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  Speaker 2: Former New Jersey This jurisdiction State Police investigator twenty five
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  Speaker 2: years in LA multiple departments, including homicide, organized crime, Not
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  Speaker 2: Easy in Jersey, Commander of Internet Crimes against Children Task
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  Speaker 2: Force for the New Jersey State Police, currently CEO of
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  Speaker 2: Raven Eliminating Child Exploitation and Trafficking.
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  Speaker 1: John, thank you for being with us. I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk to.
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  Speaker 2: You about the fact that the e bike was hit
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  Speaker 2: with such force that it wedged into the front grille
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  Speaker 2: of the jeep. Tell me what you're seeing the jeep
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  Speaker 2: right now there? It is that How would I like
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  Speaker 2: to see that bearing down on you at seventy mph.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, I've seen a lot of different accidents and fatalities, Nancy,
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  Speaker 9: but the premeditation there is what really drives me. I mean,
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  Speaker 9: the anger to create that kind of damage at that
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  Speaker 9: speed is utterly insane.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it would have to be an immense, immense
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  Speaker 2: impact for the bike, not to just get not over,
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  Speaker 2: but to hit so quickly and so forcefully that it
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  Speaker 2: actually wedges into the grill of the jeep.
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  Speaker 1: Just think about it.
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  Speaker 2: To doctor Preyer, Benergy joining US Board certified forensic pathologist
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  Speaker 2: and atomic pathologist and anchor Forensic Pathology, Doctor Preyer, thank
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  Speaker 2: you for being with us. My point, the reason I'm
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  Speaker 2: stuck on the bike being hit with such impact that
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  Speaker 2: it basically he mailed it to the front grille. What
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  Speaker 2: do you think that by impact the collision impact did
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  Speaker 2: to the two little girls. One was thrown yards and
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  Speaker 2: yards away through the air. But the impact, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people might think, is when she hits that that
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  Speaker 2: is what kills her. Of course, she could hit her
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  Speaker 2: hand on the curve, which would kill her, but it's
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  Speaker 2: the impact that's what killed her.
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  Speaker 10: This hits very close to home as the mother of
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  Speaker 10: a young girl who's out in the neighborhood. The impact
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  Speaker 10: is a huge transfer of force energy and that's going
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  Speaker 10: to basically crush them.
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  Speaker 1: It is I'm hoping instantaneous.
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  Speaker 10: Death with massive trauma such as head trauma or chest trauma.
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  Speaker 10: I'm hoping that makes them suffer less. As a consolation
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  Speaker 10: to the family. But this is beyond comprehension.
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  Speaker 11: Put her up.
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  Speaker 2: It was that supposed to make us feel better, doctor Preya,
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  Speaker 2: that she died instantly. Now, well, I have to hand
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  Speaker 2: it to you. It actually does make me feel a
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  Speaker 2: little bit better because to this day, I'm talking years later,
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  Speaker 2: I will wake up at night. It will hit me
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of the day like a sack of bricks.
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  Speaker 2: Did my fiance know what had happened to him when
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  Speaker 2: he was shot five times?
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  Speaker 1: What did he feel? Did he know he was dying?
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  Speaker 1: What were his thoughts? Did he try to speak? I
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  Speaker 1: hate that.
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  Speaker 2: So the fact that they died may have died instantly,
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  Speaker 2: it was very cold comfort, But comfort it is. But
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  Speaker 2: isn't it true, Melissa McCarty that one of the girls
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  Speaker 2: made it to the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: And then died. So one of them did not die instantly, right,
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately one of them.
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  Speaker 5: We don't know which one at this point, but they
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  Speaker 5: were airlifted to the hospital in efforts to try and
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  Speaker 5: save her. But that she ended up dying from her
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  Speaker 5: injuries at a local hospital.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you know, doctor Pria Banerjee joining us, You and
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  Speaker 2: I have analyzed a lot of cases and recently we
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  Speaker 2: were analyzing the case of a brilliant law professor, Professor
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  Speaker 2: Dan Markel, whose raging mother in law was infuriated he
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  Speaker 2: would not give away custody of the two little boys,
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  Speaker 2: her grandchildren, so she ordered a hit on him, Donna Adelson,
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  Speaker 2: And he was still fully conscious after the hitman shot
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  Speaker 2: him multiple times and was trying to speak to a
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  Speaker 2: neighbor in moving around. And that has haunted me and
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  Speaker 2: haunted me and haunted me thinking was he trying to
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  Speaker 2: send a message to his little boys?
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  Speaker 1: Was he trying to.
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  Speaker 2: Think, Oh God help me, I want to see them graduate?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what would have happened with this kind of impact.
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  Speaker 2: Would the girls have known what happened to them? Because
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  Speaker 2: we know one of them was alive when she got
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  Speaker 2: to the hospital, right, you know, it's.
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  Speaker 10: All speculative, but I think there's always a moment for
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  Speaker 10: my understanding that they you know, perception seeing the car
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  Speaker 10: coming at you, at least the headlights. I think that's
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  Speaker 10: probably the most horrific thing to think about, that it's
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  Speaker 10: about to hit me with such speed and purpose, right
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  Speaker 10: it's aimed at them, which is horrific to think about.
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  Speaker 10: Once one girl is dead at the scene, I'm hoping
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  Speaker 10: that is again instantaneous. Now I'm hoping the.
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  Speaker 11: Other child who survived.
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  Speaker 10: Temporarily was just, let's hope, disoriented, you know, surviving could
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  Speaker 10: be at the scene, could be just a pulse, maybe
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  Speaker 10: some gurgling or just garbled speech. But I'm hoping that
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  Speaker 10: her senses were decreased and that you know that it
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  Speaker 10: wasn't as a parent what had happened to her.
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  Speaker 2: You know, to doctor Janey Lacy, joining US, licensed psychotherapist,
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  Speaker 2: CEO of Life Counseling Solutions, author of multiple books, and
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  Speaker 2: you can find her podcast on YouTube, The Resilient Professional
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Janey. You know, sometimes I post pictures of my twins. Recently,
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  Speaker 2: I posted a picture of them at church. They were
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  Speaker 2: leading in a procession and I don't know, I think
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  Speaker 2: the choir was saying it was really pretty. So I
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  Speaker 2: caught it on a video. People online, well, one person
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  Speaker 2: just once said her address is too short.
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  Speaker 1: If you could see my daughter, she's gorgeous. She's got
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  Speaker 1: legs up here, and I'm like, girls, show them off
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  Speaker 1: while you can.
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  Speaker 2: But my point is, I'm looking at these photos of
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  Speaker 2: the little girls, and in some of them, they've got
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  Speaker 2: totally a faith full of makeup, and a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people have com what's with that?
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: I love that these little girls are home in front
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  Speaker 2: of their mirrors, playing in makeup and putting on nails.
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  Speaker 2: I always wished I had been a girly girl instead
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  Speaker 2: of climbing trees and building forts.
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  Speaker 1: And I look at her in a little tr Oh,
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  Speaker 1: there you go. I love that shot.
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  Speaker 2: Right there, because you know, when you see her in
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  Speaker 2: the next shot, she looks like a little schoolgirl in
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  Speaker 2: a uniform. She just like playing in makeup, having a
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  Speaker 2: good time. Looking at all the stars online trying to
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  Speaker 2: put on makeup like they are.
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  Speaker 1: Look how cute.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know what, doctor Janey is the dichotomy
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  Speaker 2: of looking at these two cute little girls.
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  Speaker 1: And imagining them plight. Look look at them playing in.
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  Speaker 2: Makeup one day and the next day they're mowed down
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  Speaker 2: by a freak at seventy mphp because he's angry.
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  Speaker 1: One rejected him. That's what this is all about.
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  Speaker 2: According to police, that one of the girls didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to go out with him, didn't want anything to do
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  Speaker 2: with him, and he was stupid enough to talk.
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  Speaker 1: About it online.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, I have the video which I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: play for you, but right now, the dichotomy of looking
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  Speaker 2: at them just so scrubbed in sunshine, playing in their makeup,
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  Speaker 2: and then imagining them dead on the street exsanguminating, bleeding
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  Speaker 2: out dead Fancy.
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  Speaker 7: This case just represents a catastrophic system failure, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 7: where repeated warning signs were ignored and they resulted into
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  Speaker 7: what I would say preventable deaths. You know, as someone
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  Speaker 7: who lost my own sister to domestic violence, I understand
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  Speaker 7: how devastating it is when people that are meant to
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  Speaker 7: protect us fail to act. So my heart goes as
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  Speaker 7: shattered for these families because this is exactly the nightmare
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  Speaker 7: scenario we work so hard to prevent. And what haunts me, Nancy,
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  Speaker 7: is that Maria did everything right. She reported him, she
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  Speaker 7: told adult, her family, seek help, and the system failed her.
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  Speaker 1: So this is just a tragedy. It's a preventable murder,
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  Speaker 1: but help has to.
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  Speaker 7: Be there when it's reached for So Maria reached and
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  Speaker 7: no one grabbed her hand, and to me, that was
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  Speaker 7: just unconsciable, Nancy. So I think what we're seeing here
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  Speaker 7: with this perpetrator is we're seeing a textbook escalation pattern
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  Speaker 7: of a stalker who became increasingly dangerous when his target,
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  Speaker 7: Maria rejected him.
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  Speaker 3: Isabella Salas and Maria Niotis, We're enjoying what seemed like
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  Speaker 3: an ordinary day together, blissfully unaware that a figure from
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  Speaker 3: their past may have been shadowing their every move.
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  Speaker 2: I imagine that on two little teen girls riding their
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  Speaker 2: e bikes along their neighborhoods, straight outside Grandma's house. So
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  Speaker 2: that jeep is recovered, many facts become elucidated.
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 3: Police find the black twenty twenty one Jeep Compass just
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  Speaker 3: blocks away on Lincoln Avenue, with a bike still lodged
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  Speaker 3: in the front bumper.
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  Speaker 12: Families release a statement claiming their daughter's deaths were not
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  Speaker 12: an accidental hit and run. They say the driver, a
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  Speaker 12: coward of a man, has been planning an attack on
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  Speaker 12: Maria for months. Friends and family, save Maria's classmate at
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  Speaker 12: Cranford High who wants pursued Maria romantically, has been harassing, stalking,
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  Speaker 12: and threatening Maria for at least three months.
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  Speaker 1: What in the hey, I got to tell you something?
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  Speaker 13: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Lisa Herrick joining us saw a veteran try a lawyer
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  Speaker 2: partner at Varghee Somerset, Lisa, have you ever had to
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  Speaker 2: deal with a stalking case that's just a yes name.
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  Speaker 6: Not one like this, Yeah, not one like this.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me tell you something you don't want to
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Because when I'd rather try a serial killer, which I have,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: rather than stick my hand into a stalking or a
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: divorce related crime, those people are they will shoot the prosecutor,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: no question, or the divorce lawyer. The divorce lawyer because
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: the emotions are so high. And I've had stalkers come
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: into court and look at me like I'm pure evil,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: and the victim would be terrified to see the stalker
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: in court.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: It was palpable. It's like hanging in the air.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Like a Harry Potter horcrux. You can just feel feel it.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: And in this case, did you hear this, Melissa McCartney,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: did they just say? Friends and family stated a classmate
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: at Cranford High pursued Maria romantically and had been harassing, stalking,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: and threatening her for at least three months.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Three months has been going.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: On at least stalking, not only physically parking outside of
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: her home, according to many of her friends' neighbors and
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: also family members, but online and at school as.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Well online at school, parking in her neighborhood staring at
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: her listen.
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: A friend of Maria's shows the media text he received
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: from the alleged driver after he asked Marta Lauro to
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: stop bothering Maria. Quote, I'm not leaving her alone until
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: she apologizes to me unquote. The driver then threatens to
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: create and distribute AI generated nude photos of Maria. He
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: sends a photo of another nude girl, writing quote, I
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: did it to one girl, I'll do it to another unquote.
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: The conversation ended with the teen writing keep running your
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: mouth and I'll create your girl's nudes right now he's
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: been parked.
• 22:55
  Speaker 13: Up front of her house's line online and schollowing.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
• 23:00
  Speaker 13: The school was notified, The police were notified, like for three.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Months now, and nothing happened. No, he was never stopped. No.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Dave Matt with US Crime Stories investigative report. The school
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: knew about this and did nothing, And I want to
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: confirm that they all need to be fired.
• 23:20
  Speaker 14: Nancy. I think the school did take action.
• 23:24
  Speaker 11: We're dealing with a because of.
• 23:26
  Speaker 14: The age of everybody involved, you know, they're pretty cagy
• 23:29
  Speaker 14: about releasing names and things like that. But he was
• 23:33
  Speaker 14: suspended from school based on an accusation from Maria's family
• 23:39
  Speaker 14: that he sent child pornography to them, and that let.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Dave, I'm so glad you told me that. I'm so
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: glad you told me that. I've been so focused on
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: the actual criminal case. I'm so relieved that he was suspended.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: You know what that means, Dave, Matt the family, his
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: family knew that something was going on, something wrong. So
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I guess when the victims' families are saying nothing was done,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: that must mean criminally criminally stucking because he was suspended.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Did he get back in Dave mac.
• 24:18
  Speaker 14: Well, okay, the charges that were coming about apparently were
• 24:22
  Speaker 14: dropped and he was allowed back in. But he still
• 24:27
  Speaker 14: talked about wanting revenge for what had happened to him.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Oh for the little suspension. Okay, you're absolutely right. Let's
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: play that right now. Let's see him and all his
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: splendor and glory.
• 24:40
  Speaker 11: I think, may I think we're going to center a PISA. Sure, so.
• 24:47
  Speaker 13: You'll know I have a vengeancey against the stall Ford
• 24:50
  Speaker 13: accusing me of saying I'm going to call a PISA
• 24:55
  Speaker 13: to her house. Yes, So.
• 25:02
  Speaker 11: Fula or my dad wants to call you fluva. Don't
• 25:06
  Speaker 11: fool me, stupid.
• 25:09
  Speaker 13: You should not have accused me of sending form and
• 25:12
  Speaker 13: you should not have dragged me into creating a police.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Report that from at Vinny about one point eighteen on YouTube,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: and that would obviously be the suspect who is innocent tonight.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: By the way, we're all innocent.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: We have the presumption of innocence unless and until the
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: state pierces that presumption with evidence that proves the defendant
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I want to analyze what
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I just heard, Melissa McCarney. He says, I think Marie
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: is hungry, and he's talking about the murder victim, this
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: little teen girl that has rejected his advances.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to send her a pizza.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: So y'all know quote, I have a vengeance against this
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: girl for accusing me of sending porn.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I guess that's the alleged.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: AI generated nude photos of little girls. You stick a
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: need body on the head of a little girl, and
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: suddenly you've got a nude of her. He goes on
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: to say, you should not a key have accused me
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: of sending porn and you should not have dragged me
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: into creating a police report. This is a little girl
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: he's talking about. Do I have that right, Melissa McCarty
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: joining us.
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: You do?
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: And it just as a sample of how vindictive and
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: how fixated he has been on Maria and having some
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: kind of retribution for what he feels he was wrong.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: He was live streaming this to his fans on some
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: gaming website of YouTube and TikTok and he was really
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: giving insight into his psyche months before the incident.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't end there, Melissa McCarty, listen.
• 27:04
  Speaker 15: Can I get two large pepperoni pieces? That's it, no dregs,
• 27:16
  Speaker 15: He'll be cast.
• 27:16
  Speaker 14: In the door.
• 27:20
  Speaker 16: Okay, thank you very much. Hey, then I have the
• 27:38
  Speaker 16: vpan on so I can't get tracked.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Do you hear them laughing?
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: That is from at Vinnie bat to b A T
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: T one eighteen on YouTube. Do you hear them laughing
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: about I think Marie is hungry and ordering a pizza
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: that she would have to pay for when it got
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: there my daughter or said, well, my daughter would not
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: be able to find thirty dollars to save her nick
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: if she had to on a delivery that would not happen,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: and then she'd be all upset, like, what am I
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: going to do?
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I should text me and call me mom.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: There's a guy that wants thirty dollars. What am I
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: supposed to do? I don't have thirty dollars? So that's
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: what he's laughing about. Oh and there's more. Listen, Should
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I do it? Here's the thing though?
• 28:27
  Speaker 13: I did that the last time, but the mother saw
• 28:30
  Speaker 13: me pull up in the car and I got tracked,
• 28:33
  Speaker 13: and the police, you know, did what they did.
• 28:37
  Speaker 11: Should I do?
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think I should do it again? From at
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: venniebat One eighteen YouTube. Did you hear that? Because he
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: is cackling and laughing John Pizarro, former New Jersey State
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Police this jurisdiction. He's laughing about having a VPN virtual
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: private network where he can't be traced, according to him,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: and ordering the pizza and stalking her own line through
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: a VPN. The little friend says, you should go to
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the house and see it pull up the pizza. That
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Laura says, should I? Here's the thing though, I did
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: that last time, but the mother saw me and I
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: got trot and the police, you know, did what they did.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: So he is.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Overtly trying to avoid detection. This guy, this guy knows
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: what he's doing.
• 29:29
  Speaker 17: John, he should be tried as an adult. I mean,
• 29:33
  Speaker 17: obviously he knows. Look, there's not a lot of people
• 29:36
  Speaker 17: that know a lot about VPNs, but he's doing everything
• 29:39
  Speaker 17: he can do to conceal his identity while terrorizing these girls. Ultimately,
• 29:44
  Speaker 17: that's what he's doing.
• 29:46
  Speaker 11: Should I do it?
• 29:46
  Speaker 13: Here's the thing though, I did that the last time,
• 29:49
  Speaker 13: but the mother saw me pull up in the car
• 29:52
  Speaker 13: and I got tracked and the police, you know, did
• 29:55
  Speaker 13: what they did.
• 29:55
  Speaker 11: Should I do I don't think I should do it.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Maria had been haunted by a boy from a neighboring
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: town who relentlessly stalked her and made unwanted advances for months.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: His obsessive behavior forced Maria to file a restraining order
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: against him.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: How does this guy have thirty nine excuse me now?
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Forty thousand followers on TikTok listen.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Just hours after allegedly mowing down Maria and Isabella, battle
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Loo goes live on YouTube for a round of video
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: games with a friend. Battle Loo has nearly forty thousand
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: followers on TikTok and several hundred tune into his gaming streams.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Over the last six months, battle Loo frequently discussed a
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: situation at school with Maria. In his stream, battle Loo
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: is inundated with messages condemning his actions and taunts his
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: audience that every comment just makes him more money. Battle
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Loo eventually turns commenting off and addresses the.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Crash doctor Jane Lacy, you're the psychotherapist. I'm just a
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: trial lawyer. Could you explain what is an in sell?
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Involuntary celibate that's usually for grown men, but this forty
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: thousand followers watching him play play.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Live stream video games.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: They watch him play as he trashes the victim and
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: talks about what he's going to de fort revenge because
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: she rejected him.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: What is an in sell? What is a baby in sell?
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: Well, when I'm looking at what we just heard, that
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: they have these ability to get these audiences, especially when
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: they become skilled at certain video games. So with the generations,
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: this is a common trend. I would say that a
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: lot of the gamers can make money off of people
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: watching them taking tips from them. But there's a lot
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: of commentary that particularly happens when when they're gaming, and
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: in these commentary we're also seeing that we're also getting
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: some evidence because you know, when I think about this
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: nancy that stalkers, they often operate with just this dangerous
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: solution as he was, you know, he's talking about the
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: situation at school to his followers. But they also believe
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: they have a right to their victims attention, hence sending
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: the pizza and the attention of time and their affection,
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: and when that's denied and they don't accept that, they
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: escalate to when we're looking at all these red flags
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: that we just heard, the surveillance, the digital harassment, of
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: the physical proximity threat, the mom seeing him, and the
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: persistence despite the rejection the restraining order which didn't didn't
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: stop him. But you know, the comment that would make
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: their nancy is the most dangerous time for stalking victim
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: is when they set a boundary like a restraining order.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: And doctor Jenny, I've got a question. Doesn't anybody have Bark?
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: And I am not I'm not an endorser. I'm saying
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: this because I have BARK. I don't understan and my
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: parents don't have Bark. It's an app and it pops
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: up whenever you one of your children, it's on their phone.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: When there is violence, when violence pops up, self harm,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: sexual deviancy, and okay, one time it popped up self
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: harm on my son.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like what.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: And it shows you the what they consider to be
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: self harm. It was John David plays on varsity soccer
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: and he had he dived through the net to stop
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: a goal and he stopped it, but he got a
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: big bruise on his arm. He's so proud, look what
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I did. And he posted it to somebody. You know,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I saved the goal and that's what they picked. That's
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: how sensitive bark like a dog, that's what it is.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: And then the other day I never have seen this
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: pop up. It says sexual something. I'm like it finally happened.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: He found how about sex? And look guess what it was?
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: The Nancy Gray show on a ddy case. So okay,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: that's the kind like, okay, I guess he's got to
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: unfollow his mother.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: But that said, I wonder where were the parents?
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Did they not understand what was going on? They didn't,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, Melissa McCartney, how could the parents? I know
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: he was suspended and yet he still had his jeep
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: that he was using to stalk her and still doing this,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: laughing about it, ordering pizzas.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: And so forth online to her home that she would
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: have to pay for. But where were they in this mix?
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: So this is interesting.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: He talks about that on one of his live streams
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: on YouTube. He talks about what happened to him at
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: school with the police report and how it's affecting him
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: at home and causing him mental anguish. He addresses that,
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: and what I think is very interesting.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Did you just say he's having meant to anguish?
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: He talks about how it's affecting his mental state, exactly right,
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: But he talks about this and that he's having trouble
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: at home because of all of this.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: So he's you.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: Know, putting the evidence out there, and he's also admitting
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: to this harassment and these things that are getting him
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: in trouble on the live stream.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Well, he should have trouble at home, and actually at
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: least that means his parents were trying to do something.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Listen to this.
• 35:26
  Speaker 13: In a neighboring town, Unfortunately, two girls were killed in
• 35:36
  Speaker 13: a hit and run crash. Nah, there has been a
• 35:43
  Speaker 13: lot of misinformation going on over the internet, but I
• 35:48
  Speaker 13: will say this, I wish my sincereus condolences to those
• 35:56
  Speaker 13: two girls.
• 35:57
  Speaker 11: Lost in that tragic accident.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, the goal of that from at Vinnie bat One
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: eighteen on YouTube, that is Vincent Battloro talking about the
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: misinformation on the internet about as I call them, the
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: two murders and giving sincere's condolence is like spit that
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: out of my mouth. It tastes like poison. And there's more.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: The goal of going on and saying that.
• 36:37
  Speaker 13: Listen, it is an absolute unfortunate situation and there's more
• 36:41
  Speaker 13: to the story that you're not getting. But when the
• 36:45
  Speaker 13: time comes, I will explain it in greater detail. I'm
• 36:50
  Speaker 13: not authorized to talk about the old thing. I'm not
• 36:53
  Speaker 13: going to give you any more information.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: At Vinnie baut One eighteen YouTube making thrusts.
• 37:00
  Speaker 11: That's my family will not be tolerated.
• 37:04
  Speaker 13: My cousin has received hateful messages over social media about
• 37:10
  Speaker 13: this whole spiel, and he's had to unfollow me on
• 37:14
  Speaker 13: everything because of this whole drama.
• 37:16
  Speaker 11: Why are you guys getting him involved? It's one thing. Okay,
• 37:21
  Speaker 11: if you hate me, you hate me.
• 37:23
  Speaker 13: If you don't, you don't, you're opening up Pandora's Box,
• 37:28
  Speaker 13: getting family involved, and that just does not sit right
• 37:33
  Speaker 13: with me.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, that's from venning Back one eighteen YouTube.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Is he actually threatening people?
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Is he saying, you talk about my family and you're
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: opening Pandora's Box and that just does not sit right
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: with me?
• 37:50
  Speaker 13: What?
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure Lisa Harritt is just withering right now
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: at the thought of having a client that takes to
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: the Internet. But there's more, Lisa, buckle your seat belt, listen,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: and I want to.
• 38:04
  Speaker 13: Address something else, okay, because this is a very serious
• 38:09
  Speaker 13: incident that happens, and I really don't even know if
• 38:14
  Speaker 13: I should be streaming this right now. But I have
• 38:20
  Speaker 13: built a great following on ted Talk with thirty nine
• 38:23
  Speaker 13: thousand followers that I have grown since twenty twenty, and
• 38:28
  Speaker 13: I want to thank each.
• 38:29
  Speaker 11: And every single one of you. I love you all
• 38:31
  Speaker 11: to absolute death.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: That's from at Vinnybatt one eighteen YouTube.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: He is worried. Lisa Harriet, You're the veteran trial lawyer.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I'm so happy right now, He's worried about his followers
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: on YouTube, his forty thousand followers.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: He's threatening people that have spoken out against him. And
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: his family, and.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I'd like to add his dad and uncle are in
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: law enforcement. That's his response. He's lashing out and worried
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: about his YouTube followers, while the girls' families are imagining
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: their daughters getting inbalmed.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: You know what getting in balm means.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: They take all the fluids out of your body, all
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: the organs out of their body, and they shoot you
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: full of chemicals, chemicals, and then they paint your face
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: to make you look natural, not dead, and put you
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: in a box before you go under the ground forever.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: And he is worried about his followers and making threats
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: online technical legal term.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: You can go straight to H double L on a broomstick.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: And I don't mean writing it.
• 39:50
  Speaker 10: I mean.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: You go ahead. I want to hear your response. Yeah.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: As a defense attorney, you never want a client to
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: to the internet and share how they feel about an
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: incident they're accused of.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: This is not a good look.
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: It's going to be a lot to overcome for his
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: attorneys when he does get defense attorneys. They certainly, as
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: he predicted, they would have advised him not to do that.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Take a listen to this.
• 40:15
  Speaker 13: I took a hiatus from streaming and this has to
• 40:19
  Speaker 13: do with my personal life, and this involves school. I
• 40:22
  Speaker 13: got a bunch of allegations being handed to me of
• 40:26
  Speaker 13: crazy stuff I will deny for fifty years to the
• 40:31
  Speaker 13: end of my life. Ridiculous allegations that this girl is
• 40:35
  Speaker 13: making against me and over because I got into her
• 40:38
  Speaker 13: relationship business. And now the school and now I'm going.
• 40:42
  Speaker 11: To tell you all this.
• 40:43
  Speaker 13: Cops got involved, and the school got involved in this,
• 40:46
  Speaker 13: and somehow they're.
• 40:47
  Speaker 11: Believing this crap.
• 40:49
  Speaker 13: So they suspended me basically indefinitely until they figured it,
• 40:52
  Speaker 13: which makes again makes no sense because they should have
• 40:55
  Speaker 13: waited until they were if they're really believing this is
• 40:58
  Speaker 13: true criminal charges, by which there haven't been because this
• 41:02
  Speaker 13: is all bogus.
• 41:04
  Speaker 11: So that's happened. I'm waiting to see.
• 41:07
  Speaker 13: You know, when I get this appointment for my They
• 41:10
  Speaker 13: want to test me for a SAVORY assessment and sexual
• 41:13
  Speaker 13: which I don't even understand it.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: He's talking about a SAVORY test, a structured assessment of
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: violence risk in youth. Structured assessment of violent risk in youth.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: SAVORY is the acronym. Well, if you don't understand it,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: what it is is an assessment of your degree, your
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: level of violence and if you have sexual deviancy, because
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: you won't leave this girl alone, according to her family,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: and now she's dead.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Now she's dead. Listen.
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  Speaker 13: We've tried to appeal the decision, and apparently that decision
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  Speaker 13: can't be which may which doesn't make sense because oh,
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  Speaker 13: we can appeal the school expulsion, but we can't appeal
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  Speaker 13: a savory assessment that I don't find to be making
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  Speaker 13: any sense.
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  Speaker 11: Oh, we hold the car. No, you don't.
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  Speaker 13: You can authorize a decision making on whether I do
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  Speaker 13: this year or not, so.
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  Speaker 11: They will not.
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  Speaker 13: Although my expulsion has been rescinded, I'm still not basically
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  Speaker 13: welcome back until I do it. That is why I
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  Speaker 13: haven't been streaming. It's taken a deep effect on my
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  Speaker 13: mental health. But because of the support of my mom
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  Speaker 13: and dad, who are both defending these bogus allegations, which
• 42:31
  Speaker 13: I think is sick twisted out at our landish, they're
• 42:34
  Speaker 13: defending me.
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  Speaker 11: They wanted to search my phone. The school wanted to
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  Speaker 11: search my.
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  Speaker 13: Phone, but my dad told him that my dad refused
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  Speaker 13: get a warrant and then we could talk from there.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: At vinnybat One eighteen YouTube, the Union County prosecutors keep
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: the driver's identity.
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  Speaker 3: Private traffic summons records reveal his name, Vincent P. Bataloro,
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  Speaker 3: his father, an officer with Chatham Peede, and his uncle,
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  Speaker 3: chief of Westfield PD. The team was also under investigation
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  Speaker 3: for harassment and stalking his classmate Maria and Ciotis.
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  Speaker 12: Battlauo's uncle, Christopher Battaluo, chief of police in neighboring Westfield,
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  Speaker 12: confirming with the suspect is related but not a member
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  Speaker 12: of his immediate family. Chief battle Laua writes that he
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  Speaker 12: in no way condone, defend, or excuse his nephew's actions.
• 43:18
  Speaker 12: Battlauo says he was required to remain silent but unequivocally
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  Speaker 12: condemns the teen's actions and demands. He faced consequences determined
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  Speaker 12: by a court of law. Chief Battlelauo expresses his condolences
• 43:30
  Speaker 12: to Maria and Isabella's families, saying his family is grieving
• 43:34
  Speaker 12: alongside their neighbors, and that.
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  Speaker 2: Is why the parents said, now you can't look at
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: his phone without a search warrant because they know the system,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: the dad and the uncle, heavy law enforcement. Where does
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: it stand right now? Straight out to Melissa McCarthy.
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  Speaker 5: Right now, he is facing two counts of first degree murder.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: Right now, it could be he's charged as a minor,
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  Speaker 5: but that could change. We have to wait and see
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  Speaker 5: what the DA decides.
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  Speaker 2: So right now he's still in juvecourt looking at a
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  Speaker 2: mix of about five years behind bars.
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  Speaker 1: That's where it stands.
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  Speaker 2: This as the girls' family, Maria and Isabella's family en
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: dear their funerals, We wait as justice unfolds. If you
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: know or think you know anything about this case, whether
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: you think it's inconsequential or not, please dial Cranford PD.
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  Speaker 2: Nine zero eight seven zero nine seventy two hundred repeat
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  Speaker 2: nine zero eight seven zero nine seventy two hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Gray signing up. Good night friend,