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UK Column News — 3rd June 2026 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Wednesday, the third of June twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 1: just after one o'clock. Welcome to the UK colum News.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host Mike Grumson joining me in the studio today,
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Speaker 1: Charles Mallett. Welcome's program, Charles, Thank you, Mike, and by
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Speaker 1: video link, we're joined by Vanessa Billy, as usual, my
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Speaker 1: litter in the program. We're going to be reporting on
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Speaker 1: the UN behavioral science this week, which has taking place
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Speaker 1: as we speak, all of an update at age verification,
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Speaker 1: as well as criticism of the COVID inquired statistics on
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Speaker 1: the effectiveness of vaccines from Carl Hennigan and Vanessa will
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Speaker 1: be talking taking a look at the merger of the
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Speaker 1: militaries in the US and Israel and asking the question
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Speaker 1: what is Vanka Trump up to in Albania. But we're
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Speaker 1: going to begin today, Charles, with the stabbing of Henry Novak.
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Speaker 2: We are yes, I'm afraid and this is because the
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Speaker 2: sentencing of Victreim Digoire for the murder of Henry Novak
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Speaker 2: has brought a number of very contentious, problematic and intive
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Speaker 2: issues to the surface. So the first and most obvious
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Speaker 2: of which course is the conduct of Hampshire Police when
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Speaker 2: attending the incident last December. Now, Hampshire Police have put
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Speaker 2: out a short statement which has a focus on apparently
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Speaker 2: containing the divisive race rhetoric, stemming from the fact that
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Speaker 2: it is entirely relevant to the case that Digwa is
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Speaker 2: a seek and relevant that Novak was white, which I
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Speaker 2: will come to.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: Police have said, however, what we cannot accept this is
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Speaker 2: sorry to prefix it by saying they accept that they
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Speaker 2: have made failings, but they cannot accept the significant spread
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Speaker 2: of misinformation online by those intent on causing further fear
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Speaker 2: and division. And just to make an example of what
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Speaker 2: they mean, the police officer unrelated to this case has
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Speaker 2: been misidentified online and subject.
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Speaker 4: To death threats.
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Speaker 2: Now, even with police credibility seriously damaged by this, it
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Speaker 2: must be noted this is yet another instance of many,
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Speaker 2: many people simply believing the first thing they're told, which
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Speaker 2: is a factor to be capitalized onto an increasing extent.
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Speaker 2: But as I say, ethnicity and religion is it the
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Speaker 2: core of this, or at least is being made to
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Speaker 2: be at the core of this. So we'll start with
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Speaker 2: the nine nine nine call made on that night, this emergency.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, We've just been attacked by someone racially. Yeah, this
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Speaker 5: is a taxic. Sorry, we just got attacked racially by
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Speaker 5: some white person.
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Speaker 6: Right, okay, where about sire you well on Belmont Road?
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Speaker 7: Yeah?
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Speaker 5: Literally, I just partnered on my car to come home,
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Speaker 5: and he's attacked my brother.
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Speaker 6: You're talking about verbally or physically?
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Speaker 5: No, no, he's physically tap my brother. We're seeks, we
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Speaker 5: wear tyburn and he's just tapped my brother. I'm calling
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Speaker 5: the police. I'm calling the police. Read we're restraining police.
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Speaker 6: Have any weapons been involved?
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Speaker 7: No?
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Speaker 8: No?
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Speaker 9: No?
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Speaker 6: Right, Okay, is that person still there?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're restraining him right now because he's just tapped
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Speaker 5: my brother and talking. My brother's tiban off, and he's
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Speaker 5: also recorded from a well on his phone, so can
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Speaker 5: we please please have the police out urgently. He's also
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Speaker 5: he's verbally attacked my brother racially. He's attacked my brother
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Speaker 5: and took his turban off. Denny's recorded it on his
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Speaker 5: phone thinking he was going to do something, So I
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Speaker 5: need someone he sat. I'm not letting him. I can't
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Speaker 5: let him go until this is sorted. I'm not being
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Speaker 5: racially attacked and letting him get away with let me
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Speaker 5: I'm not having this as a regular occurrence. I live here,
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Speaker 5: I'm not having this as a regular current.
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Speaker 6: That's fine, I agree. Just bear with me and let
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Speaker 6: me get it sent over to the control and get
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Speaker 6: someone on their way. Okay, what did he specifically say?
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Speaker 5: So he said to my brother, you're whatever, like obviously racial?
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Speaker 1: Vic?
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Speaker 5: Did he vic? Vickrom? Sorry, let me just ask him,
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Speaker 5: vick Vick did he racially say anything to you? Did
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Speaker 5: he racially say anything?
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Speaker 6: Okay, that's what I needed to know. Anyone seeing any weapons?
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Speaker 10: No, there's no weapons.
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Speaker 2: This It's very apparent there that the caller, who was
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Speaker 2: Vigram Digger's brother, was manipulating the system in his favor.
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Speaker 2: He knew exactly what to do and how to do
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Speaker 2: it and more over the cool, handless response, but it
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Speaker 2: portrays the level of the problem. Of course, you heard
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Speaker 2: him asking what was said before he asked if there
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Speaker 2: any weapons involved, So rather than trying to ascertain if
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Speaker 2: anyone was hurt, he's concentrating, as say, on the words,
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Speaker 2: having been triggered to do so. Bither mention of the
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Speaker 2: word racial. So we'll now look at the body worn
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Speaker 2: footage from one of the first constables on the scene.
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Speaker 2: But before we do, I must warn you that this
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Speaker 2: is this video and the another one later on essentially
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Speaker 2: show the moments that do lead towards Henry Novak's death.
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Speaker 10: All right, he.
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Speaker 8: Keeps dropping side of sides on, just trying to keep
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Speaker 8: us set up.
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Speaker 10: I don't want him.
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Speaker 6: He was on the bin on the other side of this.
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Speaker 8: He's chummed over the.
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Speaker 4: Obviously he's slip.
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Speaker 10: From those what's your name?
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Speaker 6: Mate?
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Speaker 7: Huh?
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Speaker 3: Has anyone been hurt other than him? Yeah?
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Speaker 4: My brother, my turban off so grabbing my head.
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Speaker 3: Are you injured? Yeah, swollen eye, little Just step back
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Speaker 3: a little bit for me. Someone flagged these down.
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Speaker 10: All right, let's get you on the.
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Speaker 2: What might be described as an absolutely slap dash approach
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Speaker 2: is characterized by very obvious failure to assess the scene. Critically.
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Speaker 2: First aid training is given to all response police and
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Speaker 2: updated every year, and our core principle of that is
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Speaker 2: that a casualty which is not moving and making little
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Speaker 2: or no not you should be given priority, they being
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Speaker 2: more likely to have sustained serious injury. But of course
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Speaker 2: we see the opposite being done.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 2: Is this because they've be turning up to an instance
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Speaker 2: that they believed was racially aggravated. Further, not only is
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Speaker 2: the constable told that there is a casualty on the ground,
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Speaker 2: but Henry Novak can be heard quite clearly saying I
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Speaker 2: can't breathe and I've been stabbed. Now this is ignored,
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Speaker 2: and the constable is heard saying has anyone been hurt
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Speaker 2: other than him? Hamshire Police was questioned about this on
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Speaker 2: X and responded by saying that their officers were misled
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Speaker 2: at the scene. Now, interestingly, this post on x was
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Speaker 2: subsequently deleted, but this screenshot remains. And I've requested a
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Speaker 2: statement from Hampshire Police about exactly this, but of course
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Speaker 2: I've received no response. Now, despite their many and very
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Speaker 2: obvious failures, Hamsha Police appear to receive one benefit from
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Speaker 2: the sentencing remarks, which is the assertion of the pathologist
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Speaker 2: that no form of medical intervention could have saved Henry
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Speaker 2: Novak's life. And I'll just quote the pathologist, Demander Jeffrey
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Speaker 2: found twelve hundred minie liters or over two pints of
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Speaker 2: blood there in the chest cavity. She said that no
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Speaker 2: emergency medical treatment would have permitted access to the bleeding vain.
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Speaker 2: In simple terms, he would not have survived. However, quickly
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Speaker 2: he received first aid, CPR or expert medical treatment. That
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Speaker 2: is not even on the scale where cold's comfort is concerned.
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Speaker 2: But nonetheless it is her view that that his life
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Speaker 2: could not have been saved. However, having seen the initial actions,
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Speaker 2: I will now show you what the police did with
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Speaker 2: Henry Novak.
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Speaker 6: Put the hand in the cuff, mate, walking.
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Speaker 7: Graciously in the face, but we have to check.
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Speaker 10: In the face.
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Speaker 3: Just LEAs to back off, get their details on that,
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Speaker 3: and people of them keep you on your side, mate,
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Speaker 3: You've got to retrieve them, say to on keeping them
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Speaker 3: on his side. We were set alb when we had
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Speaker 3: a man, but you didn't like it. What's your name? Mate?
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Speaker 3: By the moment you are underrest, that's the result. So
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Speaker 3: you don't have to say anything, Mayhammond fence if you
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Speaker 3: do not make your own question later, anything you do
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Speaker 3: say maybe given an evidence, all right, it's gonna be sick.
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Speaker 7: I think.
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Speaker 2: This may be said in hindsight and maybe from an
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Speaker 2: unrealistic perspective in that I wasn't there, But there can
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Speaker 2: be no justification whatsoever putting handcuffs on a casualty in
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Speaker 2: that condition. And further, the comments surrounding the suggestion of
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Speaker 2: a stabbing with only a very half hearted response should
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Speaker 2: come up a very very rigorous scrutiny in the investigation
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Speaker 2: that's been launched by the IOPC, which follows what's described
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Speaker 2: as a mandatory referral from Hampshire Police. The Director, Derek
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Speaker 2: Campbell has said our independent investigation into the contact Hampshire
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Speaker 2: and Isle of Wight officers had with mister Novak immediately
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Speaker 2: prior to his death on the fourth of December, including
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Speaker 2: the use of handcuffs by the officers and the first
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Speaker 2: aid provided, remains ongoing. And now we're going to move
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Speaker 2: forward to what happened in light of the sentencing itself,
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Speaker 2: so to the events in Southampton yesterday and of course
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Speaker 2: the inevitable discourse around race. Tommy Robinson was present and
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Speaker 2: spoke to a crowd and this is some of what
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Speaker 2: he said.
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Speaker 11: What the whole world has now seen in Henry's video
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Speaker 11: is what we all know anyway. It's a different treatment
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Speaker 11: for white people compared to non whites, and we've seen
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Speaker 11: this spread through every single institution in our country. I
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Speaker 11: can't breathe the cry in the pleading, the pleading, you know,
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Speaker 11: what's insane right now if you see that scumbag's brother
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Speaker 11: who should be charged for providing the course of justice.
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Speaker 11: A message to anyone who wants to claim representative communities,
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Speaker 11: get that fucking.
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Speaker 8: Family ourself, Frampton. Yes, come on.
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Speaker 11: The fact, the fact that his family might go shopping in.
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Speaker 9: This city next week and walk past that scumbag's brother
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Speaker 9: who facilitated and accommodated the murder of Henry is an
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Speaker 9: Absolutely the fact he's walking in the streets is insane.
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Speaker 8: I'm gone, gone, yeah.
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Speaker 2: No, God, my apologies. That video is actually meant to
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Speaker 2: come later in the report. But nonetheless this remarks about
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Speaker 2: the sort of ethnicity issues to appear to be born
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Speaker 2: out not just by the content of the nine nine
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Speaker 2: nine Corps and the conduct of police on the scene,
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Speaker 2: but also by the remarks and the conduct of the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister, because of course he's jumped on the bandwagon,
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Speaker 2: although the are in no responsibility, but it must be
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Speaker 2: made very clear that he and his government and their
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Speaker 2: media mouthpieces are absolutely at the heart of it. And
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Speaker 2: from twenty twenty is this image show Starmer among many
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Speaker 2: others have absolutely created divisions where none should exist. But
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Speaker 2: he will not own the problem that the next slide,
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Speaker 2: of course, exemplifying a different type of bandwagon. Now, given
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Speaker 2: that this is the situation, it's easy to see how
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Speaker 2: people will be pushed to take the law into their
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Speaker 2: own hands when Tommy Robinson speaks in the way that
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Speaker 2: he did, encouraging people, of course to get to take
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Speaker 2: what might be regarded as vigilante action against the family
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Speaker 2: or indeed the wider perhaps the wider Seak community. Now
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Speaker 2: the Sea Frederation has been at great pains to pour
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Speaker 2: oil on troubled waters. And we have a clip of
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Speaker 2: just singing speaking about the murder. Sorry at number ten.
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Speaker 8: So I heard someone say we condemned this action fully
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Speaker 8: in the strongest terms. There's no space for this, and
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Speaker 8: anybody who is being convinced by this or unclear will
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Speaker 8: be very categorical. This individual, victim Digua lied in his statements.
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Speaker 8: It's clear that he did not intend to go out
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Speaker 8: to kill Henry Novak. His intention wasn't to seek confrontation
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Speaker 8: or to have any altercation. It happened they were out
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Speaker 8: on the street. It happened, it escalated after it escalated.
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Speaker 8: As I said earlier, Rickram had the choice. He chose
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Speaker 8: to do what he did, and that for that he
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Speaker 8: is solely responsible. But with that action is brought the
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Speaker 8: whole Sikh community into the spotlight, whether intended or inintended.
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Speaker 8: We now have to deal with that, and we have
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Speaker 8: to now not only repair the damage done, but we
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Speaker 8: have to collectively protect that not only the community, but
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Speaker 8: the Cocarde as well. So this was an important message
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Speaker 8: that we had to share with you today because we
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Speaker 8: were restricted with what we could say formally on the television.
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Speaker 8: But it was his choice to draw a weapon and
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Speaker 8: use it in an offensive manner that does not correlate
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Speaker 8: with the Sikh tenants of the Seek faith.
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Speaker 4: We made that very.
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Speaker 2: That's the last bit there that is of special importance,
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Speaker 2: and it came up in the sentencing remarks, which will
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Speaker 2: just put on screen now because it seems somewhat anomalous
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Speaker 2: that the judge said it's a religious and consequently legal
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Speaker 2: requirement that a kuierpan should only be used defensively as
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Speaker 2: a last resort, which would include its use in legal
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Speaker 2: self defense. In other words, only if use is necessary
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Speaker 2: and if so reasonable in the circumstance is now. Of course,
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Speaker 2: the reason this is relevant is because an exemption under
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Speaker 2: the Criminal Justice Act nineteen eighty eight is given with
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Speaker 2: regard to section one three nine the afie of having
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Speaker 2: an article with a blade or point in public place,
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Speaker 2: and those exemptions are A for use at work, b
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Speaker 2: for religious reasons, and c as part of any national costume. Now,
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Speaker 2: whether intentionally or not, the judge appears to be suggesting
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Speaker 2: the carrying of a kurepan may come as an advantage
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Speaker 2: with regard to a seat carrying it when it comes
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Speaker 2: to self defense. Now, I'm pleased to say that having
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Speaker 2: got in touch with the Sikh Federation, I received a
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Speaker 2: reply and we're joined by Cool Deep Sing Diol from
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Speaker 2: the Goodwar at smedic So very well, welcome to UK Colin,
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Speaker 2: thank you for joining us.
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Speaker 4: The specific issue, given what I've just.
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Speaker 2: Said, that I would like clarification on is the wearing
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Speaker 2: and the use of the kurepan in particular.
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Speaker 12: So look, guys, thanks for having me on. I understand
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Speaker 12: where we don't have much time for. First of all,
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Speaker 12: condolences to Henry's family. The pain they're going through. For
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Speaker 12: us watching these videos is very harrowing. And you know
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Speaker 12: this person was on his arm is about individual and
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Speaker 12: he brought the c community into distribute.
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Speaker 4: Regarding the kurpan, it should never be used in anger.
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Speaker 12: It's a symbol of helping defenseless people, helping helpless people.
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Speaker 12: And you know, the point being is that the weapon
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Speaker 12: that this person used was not actually a kurpan. He
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Speaker 12: had a separate offensive blade on him and that's what
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Speaker 12: he used. With regards to the judge talking about the
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Speaker 12: self defense side, that's like I was thinking about it today.
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Speaker 12: It's like you could have a kitchen knife or scissors,
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Speaker 12: you know, say, if someone was to act in self
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Speaker 12: defense with something like that, you know that can become
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Speaker 12: a weapon all of a sudden.
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Speaker 4: So is how you use the tool.
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Speaker 10: You know, you can use it in a good way.
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Speaker 12: You can use it to help people, or you can
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Speaker 12: use it in this heinous crime that this person has done.
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Speaker 12: And it's not that the kurbands at for it. It's
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Speaker 12: the person that you know doing the act.
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Speaker 4: At the time.
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Speaker 2: Fair enough, And and I think that's born out by
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Speaker 2: the exemption clauses, which course very broad in terms of
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Speaker 2: knives or blades that people may carry for work. Now,
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Speaker 2: the bigger picture really is how this affects the Sikh community,
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Speaker 2: and it's standing not just in Southampton, but across the
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Speaker 2: country and what message you might have on that score.
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Speaker 12: Look, guys, we've had a connection with the United Kingdom
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Speaker 12: for over one hundred and fifty two hundred years. If
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Speaker 12: you look back at the British Raji in India, the
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Speaker 12: Sikhs have been in the armed forces.
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Speaker 10: From that era.
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Speaker 4: In World War One, world War two.
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Speaker 12: There was a Sikh regiment and the government at the
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Speaker 12: time made sure that the Sikhs that joined this Seekh
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Speaker 12: regiment were initiated seeks They carried the five k's, one
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Speaker 12: of which is a Kurd band, and they understand that
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Speaker 12: the Sikhs are a warrior race, and you know that
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Speaker 12: they're good, kind people. And you know, we've helped build
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Speaker 12: the United Kingdom, We've helped build the economy. As I said,
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Speaker 12: we have you know, with major casualties or deaths in
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Speaker 12: World War one and two. So this case has brought
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Speaker 12: us into disrepute, like my colleague just said in the
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Speaker 12: earlier clip, and we're not happy about it. And you
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Speaker 12: know what, we haven't we haven't been able to rest
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Speaker 12: you know, since we've been following the case and you know,
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Speaker 12: the lives have come out, we have not been able
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Speaker 12: to sit quietly.
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Speaker 4: We have not been able to.
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Speaker 12: You know, basically, we feel what the family is feeling.
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Speaker 12: We you know, we can't imagine what they're feeling. But
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Speaker 12: I think what you know, I was watching your faces
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Speaker 12: when you were watching the clips where police officers were
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Speaker 12: dealing with Henry and they were coughing him and not
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Speaker 12: listening to that. You know, he's been stabbed. He can't breathe,
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Speaker 12: so you know, we feel the pain. So as a community,
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Speaker 12: we're a strong British seakh community. We're proud that we're British.
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Speaker 12: And for us, the whole whole case is very offensive
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Speaker 12: in a way in the sense that you know, we've
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Speaker 12: built up this relationship with the British community, with British citizens,
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Speaker 12: with the United Kingdom, and is taking this one case
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Speaker 12: to all that history.
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Speaker 4: That we've got to damage that almost.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Coley, I'm very grateful to you for joining me.
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Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, Okay, Charles, let's move on then to the US
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Speaker 1: and Military Alliance. So welcome Finessa to the program. And well,
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Speaker 1: this is something that actually I hadn't heard, but I
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Speaker 1: understand this is forthcoming legislation from the United States.
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Speaker 10: Yes, horrific report thereon the situation in the UK. Thank
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Speaker 10: you for covering that. So, yes, this is something that
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Speaker 10: is definitely going beneath the radar to a large degree
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Speaker 10: in the media. It begins back in early May when
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Speaker 10: Natin Yahoo put out a statement on sixty Minutes program
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Speaker 10: that he wants to win Israel off the US military support.
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Speaker 10: What does that mean? He says, basically within a decade
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Speaker 10: his country pushes to strengthen pies with Golf States. He
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Speaker 10: said in an interview that ed on the Sunday back
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Speaker 10: in early May, I want to draw down to Zira
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Speaker 10: the American financial support, the financial co component of the
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Speaker 10: military cooperation that we have. In reality, of course, the
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Speaker 10: US has agreed to provide a total thirty eight billion
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Speaker 10: in military eight to Israel from twenty eighteen to twenty
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Speaker 10: twenty eight. Now, last week I reported on the fact
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Speaker 10: that you ate and Israel back in May twenty eighth
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Speaker 10: established a joint defense fund to purchase weapons. So there
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Speaker 10: you have already the connection with the Persian Gulf states
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Speaker 10: that he was talking about. But this is the interesting part,
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Speaker 10: and there has been a lot of reports from various
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Speaker 10: American think Thanks. This is in responsible state craft based
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Speaker 10: on a report from Quincy. Now what it's talking about.
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Speaker 10: Congress quietly moves to integrate US and Israeli militaries. We
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Speaker 10: can just keep that on screen for a second. In
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Speaker 10: the first step towards shifting eight further into the shadows,
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Speaker 10: the Houses twenty twenty seven NDAA would all but fuse
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Speaker 10: the two countries armed forces. Now within that text, what
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Speaker 10: it says is buried in the Houses version of this NDAA,
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Speaker 10: The National Defense Authorization Act released on Tuesdays, Section two
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Speaker 10: two four entitled United States Israel Defense Technology Cooperation Initiative.
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Speaker 10: The provision would arguably do more to intertwine the US
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Speaker 10: military with the Israeli military than the more two hundred
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Speaker 10: and two hundred billion inflation adjusted and military assistance Israel's
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Speaker 10: received from the US since its founding in nineteen forty eight.
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Speaker 10: It then goes on to say it lays the groundwork
21:05
Speaker 10: for bilateral research and development, coproduction of weapons, joint ventures,
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Speaker 10: licensing agreements, and seemingly every manner of US military industrial
21:15
Speaker 10: complex cooperation. The US and Israel already work together heavily
21:19
Speaker 10: on missile defense, but this provision would greatly expand coordination
21:23
Speaker 10: to seemingly every area of defense tech, including AI, quantum
21:28
Speaker 10: autonomous systems, directed energy, cyber biotech, and much more. It
21:33
Speaker 10: also proposes network integration and data fusion. In other words,
21:38
Speaker 10: the US's military data could soon be the Israeli militaries data.
21:43
Speaker 10: And of course what this also means, if fully enacted,
21:46
Speaker 10: this proposal would provide a higher level of military industrial
21:50
Speaker 10: integration than the US has with any other country in
21:54
Speaker 10: the world, including of course its inclusion within NATO. Now,
21:59
Speaker 10: just to finish up on this, and we can talk
22:01
Speaker 10: about it more in extra I want to play this
22:04
Speaker 10: clip from Rubio's recent grilling in Congress, and how yet
22:10
Speaker 10: again he enenthrines the US support for Israel and his
22:15
Speaker 10: statement on Iran's nuclear capabilities or not. So let's just
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Speaker 10: play this.
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Speaker 3: Ran.
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Speaker 13: I think if Iran ever acquired a nuclear weapon, they
22:25
Speaker 13: could very well use it because given the theological nature
22:28
Speaker 13: of their decision making. But just as problematic as they
22:32
Speaker 13: would have immunity at that point, your options on what
22:35
Speaker 13: you could do about them would be quite limited, and
22:37
Speaker 13: their ability to hold the world hostage Like North Korea,
22:40
Speaker 13: for example, they'd be North Korea, but worse, they'd be
22:42
Speaker 13: better funded they would have. They would at that point
22:45
Speaker 13: decide that they own the streets of Hormouse forever and
22:48
Speaker 13: everyone has to pay them a toll and nuclear weapons,
22:50
Speaker 13: you can't do anything about it. They would be able
22:52
Speaker 13: to act with impunity. They would sponsor HESBLA, they would
22:55
Speaker 13: sponsor they would hyper scale their efforts of global terror
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Speaker 13: and completely try to drive US out of the region
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Speaker 13: and ultimately destroy the state of Israel. That's what the
23:05
Speaker 13: goal would be. And you wouldn't be able to do
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Speaker 13: anything about it because they have a nuclear weapon and
23:08
Speaker 13: would threaten to blow people up if you try to
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Speaker 13: move against them.
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Speaker 10: So, as I said, we should discuss more in extra.
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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Vanessa, thanks for that. Now let's move on
23:28
Speaker 1: and say if you like what we do, we do
23:31
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23:42
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23:47
Speaker 1: anniversary event. What have we got to say about that, Charles,
23:50
Speaker 1: I think we were actually lots to say, Probably not
23:53
Speaker 1: time for all of it. But it is going to
23:54
Speaker 1: be a cracking event and we have got a very
23:57
Speaker 1: good lineup speakers. Obviously, we've announced Jonathan Marshall and indeed
24:00
Speaker 1: his competition prize. We will have Brian Gerrish speaking, Mike
24:03
Speaker 1: will also be speaking, and we will reveal further names
24:07
Speaker 1: in due course. But we would absolutely love to have
24:09
Speaker 1: you there with us. And in fact, the recent sort
24:11
Speaker 1: of show of support in light of what we put
24:13
Speaker 1: out at the weekend just demonstrates the strength and breadth
24:16
Speaker 1: of the UK Column membership. So we'd love to see that,
24:18
Speaker 1: whether or not you are a member.
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Speaker 4: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Charles Night tonight at seven pm. Debbie Lahman on bioweapons syop.
24:25
Speaker 1: That is on job warfare Warfare seven o'clock tonight and
24:29
Speaker 1: at nine Trump's China Pivot, What really happened in Beijing?
24:33
Speaker 1: That's with Carl at nine o'clock and tomorrow the next
24:37
Speaker 1: Military Matters.
24:38
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed already and it's quite it's a different type
24:42
Speaker 2: of episode. It concentrates in quite some detail on the
24:45
Speaker 2: grounding and subsequent sinking of a hydrographic vessel form of
24:49
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Navy, but it's specifically to do with
24:53
Speaker 2: the forcing of particular people into particular command appointments according
24:58
Speaker 2: to gender or and the consequences of that. So I
25:02
Speaker 2: think it's a very interesting one with Bryan's very deep
25:05
Speaker 2: experience on his time in the role Navy.
25:09
Speaker 1: I chance this modas then to the question of war crimes.
25:12
Speaker 2: It does, indeed, And this I'm going to show an
25:15
Speaker 2: article from the Telegraph which came out last week, and
25:20
Speaker 2: the article begins with these words, to the voiceless cloud
25:24
Speaker 2: men below, the freedom of the Ukrainian flag dancing above
25:28
Speaker 2: them in the breeze is a constant reminder of their
25:30
Speaker 2: own captivity. Now, this is an article by Dominic Nichols
25:34
Speaker 2: in the Telegraph, and if you can't see it, it's
25:36
Speaker 2: entitled Inside the Prisoner of War Camp holding Putin's brainwash Soldiers. Now,
25:40
Speaker 2: this might not be something you necessarily know very much
25:42
Speaker 2: about in terms of the legal nature of it. My apologies,
25:47
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to do that, but he's effectively attempting
25:51
Speaker 2: to cover his backside before going further. Now he says
25:54
Speaker 2: talking to such men, meaning prisoners of war and they
25:56
Speaker 2: are all men is controversial journalistic territory. The Third Geneva
26:00
Speaker 2: Convention of nineteen forty nine says prisoners of war should
26:02
Speaker 2: be treated in a way that preserves their dignity and
26:05
Speaker 2: protects them from harm during captivity and upon release. Media
26:08
Speaker 2: organizations are not signatories to the Geneva Conventions, of course,
26:12
Speaker 2: but such treaties are sensible moral handrails. If the journalism
26:16
Speaker 2: adheres to the conventions, it should be in the right place.
26:18
Speaker 2: Now I would have said he should have taken advice here,
26:21
Speaker 2: or at least done what I did, which was to
26:22
Speaker 2: look it up. But instead he goes on to make
26:25
Speaker 2: use of his interactions with prisoners for the purposes of
26:28
Speaker 2: what must be described as anti Russian propaganda. And I
26:32
Speaker 2: quote those that had a view, professed no ill feeling
26:35
Speaker 2: towards Ukrainians. Fighting was unwelcome, just an unfortunate consequence of
26:39
Speaker 2: their military service. The army, the Russian army, this is
26:43
Speaker 2: the army decided their fate. They said, words and body language,
26:46
Speaker 2: making it clear they had a little more agency to
26:49
Speaker 2: resist the all powerful state than they do in this prison.
26:53
Speaker 2: He even goes so far as to quote a former
26:54
Speaker 2: Ukrainian soldier who's reported to be a former prisoner of
26:58
Speaker 2: war in Russia, where ironically Russians accused of breaching the
27:02
Speaker 2: Geneva Conventions, and this chap is created as saying, I
27:05
Speaker 2: simply do not care what happens to Russians. If I
27:08
Speaker 2: saw a hungry small child who was dying from starvation before,
27:12
Speaker 2: of course I would help them. Now I would help
27:14
Speaker 2: them if they are not Russians. Now, I'm not going
27:17
Speaker 2: to show the contents of his article, but Nichols did
27:20
Speaker 2: indeed use images of prisoners, which is in direct contravention
27:24
Speaker 2: of Article thirteen of the Third Geneva Convention shown here
27:28
Speaker 2: on screen, which states that prisoners of war must at
27:30
Speaker 2: all times be protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation,
27:35
Speaker 2: and against insult and public curiosity. And that's the defining
27:39
Speaker 2: bit public curiosity. This very area of law is the
27:42
Speaker 2: subject of a detailed post on the ICRC Law and
27:46
Speaker 2: Policy website from twenty twenty two, and it makes the
27:48
Speaker 2: situation very clear, as it says parading prisoners of wars
27:52
Speaker 2: through the streets and distributing images of their corpses as
27:55
Speaker 2: propaganda are the most obvious examples of treatment that would
27:58
Speaker 2: violate the rule. But the term exposure to public curiosity
28:02
Speaker 2: also covers the simple disclosure of images of prisoners of
28:06
Speaker 2: war recordings of interrogations or private conversations, etc. Now Nichols
28:11
Speaker 2: and the Telegraph have absolutely disclosed images of prisoners of war.
28:15
Speaker 2: They are in that Telegraph article. There is a link
28:17
Speaker 2: in the show notes, so I will leave it for
28:19
Speaker 2: you to decide what you would like to do with that.
28:22
Speaker 2: But this was brought to my attention by in a
28:25
Speaker 2: UK column member, so very many thanks for that, And
28:29
Speaker 2: what I would like to say is that he has
28:31
Speaker 2: got in touch with the Metropolitan Police Service in order
28:34
Speaker 2: to report this as a war crime. Now, I'm certainly
28:37
Speaker 2: not going to direct anybody to take any specific actions,
28:41
Speaker 2: but I would encourage you to read not just the
28:45
Speaker 2: Telegraph article itself, but also the specifics of the Geneva
28:48
Speaker 2: Conventions and decide what action you might consider to be
28:52
Speaker 2: appropriate on that score. And I don't know if we've
28:54
Speaker 2: got any time to discuss this or the use of
28:57
Speaker 2: the Telegraph as effectively a propaganda tool.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean this follows directly on I'll just very
29:02
Speaker 1: briefly say this follows directly on from Integrity Initiative and
29:06
Speaker 1: so on, when we absolutely discovered the networks of journalists
29:11
Speaker 1: that were effectively employed by that organization to specifically push
29:17
Speaker 1: out anti Russia propaganda beginning in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen,
29:21
Speaker 1: around that time in the run up to what has
29:23
Speaker 1: eventually become the Korean conflict. And the other thing is
29:27
Speaker 1: that no doubt Vanessa will talk about. An extra of course,
29:29
Speaker 1: is we've seen this type of behavior from Israel as well,
29:33
Speaker 1: but this is the first time that we've seen a
29:36
Speaker 1: mainstream media doing this in this way.
29:38
Speaker 4: I think, so it's very brazen. So I really would
29:41
Speaker 4: encourage you to get in up.
29:41
Speaker 10: Look.
29:43
Speaker 1: Okay, now let's bring this on screen because tech Radar
29:46
Speaker 1: has published an article reminding us all of Larry Ellison's
29:51
Speaker 1: comments from September twenty twenty four when he stated that
29:54
Speaker 1: citizens will be on their best behavior because we're constantly
29:58
Speaker 1: recording and reporting everything that's going on now. Ellison, as
30:02
Speaker 1: most people will know, as the co founder of Oracle,
30:04
Speaker 1: which forms the foundation of a lot of the surveillance
30:06
Speaker 1: state as exists in the West at the moment, and
30:09
Speaker 1: at the time, he was arguing that all the opportunity
30:13
Speaker 1: to surveil surveillance, sorry to Seville Society and AI reducing
30:20
Speaker 1: that AI is reducing the processing and decision making burden
30:24
Speaker 1: and that therefore citizens will in kind respond by adjusting
30:28
Speaker 1: their behavior. This vision echoes George Orwell's nineteen eighty four,
30:32
Speaker 1: but more appropriate perhaps if we bring it on screen, Shabanam,
30:36
Speaker 1: the mood's an optagon idea. Now, the really dangerous part
30:40
Speaker 1: of this for us all, and the reason that the
30:42
Speaker 1: mood is fronting the excitement felt by the establishment, is
30:46
Speaker 1: that AI is removing the cost of labor that used
30:49
Speaker 1: to serve as a limitation on surveillance. US whistleblowers like
30:53
Speaker 1: Bill Binni and Kurt Weeby have been highlighting the issue
30:56
Speaker 1: of both data collection for years, but it's only now
30:59
Speaker 1: that the util of that becomes a real thing. Because
31:02
Speaker 1: although CCTV, for example, was already a problem, it still
31:06
Speaker 1: required someone to watch it, and if the police wanted
31:09
Speaker 1: to make use of it, they had to search it,
31:11
Speaker 1: someone had to interpret what they were saying because the
31:14
Speaker 1: quality of the pictures is often pretty bad. But AI
31:18
Speaker 1: changes that, and we move from you know, we move
31:23
Speaker 1: from the situation that some people might feel they're being
31:26
Speaker 1: watched to the fact that Big Brother is always watching
31:30
Speaker 1: and automatically interpreting what it's saying, and the implications for
31:33
Speaker 1: a free society, even one where freedom is only a veneer,
31:37
Speaker 1: as in the case of the UK and other Western countries,
31:40
Speaker 1: can't really survive under these circumstances. There's a legal precedent
31:47
Speaker 1: here in the UK and space on a case heard
31:50
Speaker 1: in the eighteenth century Entics versus Carrington, and the upshot
31:55
Speaker 1: of that case law is that individuals are free to
31:58
Speaker 1: do anything unless it's specifically prohibited by law, and corporate entities,
32:02
Speaker 1: including the state, can do nothing unless specifically permitted by law.
32:07
Speaker 1: And I would argue that the same principles should apply
32:09
Speaker 1: to the relationship between the individual and the state in
32:12
Speaker 1: this case as well. In other words, individuals should have
32:15
Speaker 1: the right to privacy and that should be an absolute right,
32:18
Speaker 1: while total transparency should be required by the state. And
32:21
Speaker 1: the moods pinopticon may well create what Elson claims that
32:25
Speaker 1: it will, But in the process, what's it going to
32:28
Speaker 1: do to us as individuals, turn us into onthinking automatons.
32:32
Speaker 4: I think that's the goal, wasn't it. Yeah?
32:35
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely no. Let's move on to this then, because
32:39
Speaker 1: this week, sorry, let's go back. This week the year
32:44
Speaker 1: is un Behavioral Science Week twenty twenty six. You'll be
32:47
Speaker 1: glad to know. This is the eighth and your running
32:50
Speaker 1: of the well what they describe as a flagship event
32:54
Speaker 1: dedicated to behavioral science and its application across international development,
32:58
Speaker 1: public policy, and organizational transformation. As I say, it's running
33:04
Speaker 1: all this week, it is a virtual event. They're looking
33:08
Speaker 1: at how behavioral science has moved from being specialism within
33:12
Speaker 1: parts of the UN, in fact at a national level
33:14
Speaker 1: as well, towards becoming an increasingly central tool for what
33:18
Speaker 1: they describe as evidence based policy making and implementation. Because
33:22
Speaker 1: there's no good just surveiling people. You have to know
33:24
Speaker 1: how to change people's behaviors once you know how they're
33:27
Speaker 1: behaving in the first place. So Behavioral Science Week brings
33:31
Speaker 1: together officials from multiple UN agencies, government representatives, academic researchers,
33:36
Speaker 1: behavioral insights practitioners and contruders come from organizations working across health, migration, development,
33:43
Speaker 1: climate and humanitarian response, and they are apparently demonstrating how
33:48
Speaker 1: behavioral approaches are becoming integrated across different policy areas. But
33:53
Speaker 1: the main theme of this event this year is the
33:55
Speaker 1: relationship behavior between behavioral science and artificial intelligence, and rather
34:00
Speaker 1: than presenting AI is something separate, many sessions are exploring
34:04
Speaker 1: how behavioral insights and AI can work together so across
34:08
Speaker 1: the weak participants will repeatedly return to a question, and
34:12
Speaker 1: that is how I can organizations better understand and influence
34:16
Speaker 1: human behavior in increasingly digital environments. Well, Charles, I'm going
34:21
Speaker 1: to say, you know, we obviously this next edition of
34:24
Speaker 1: the column magazine, which is coming out in a few
34:27
Speaker 1: weeks time, is going to be looking at the information war,
34:30
Speaker 1: and I'm by coincidence specifically looking at behavioral science and
34:34
Speaker 1: how that has been rolled out. And of course the
34:37
Speaker 1: most recent case are the most obvious case for most people,
34:41
Speaker 1: has been this byb effort to increase people's fear over COVID.
34:46
Speaker 1: But the same types of behavioral science being used to
34:50
Speaker 1: promote or to encourage people to support the war agenda
34:53
Speaker 1: as well. And this is not something which is absolutely
34:56
Speaker 1: being focused by the United Nations and just and by
35:01
Speaker 1: pointing this side, because the UN is talking about UN
35:04
Speaker 1: two point zero, a United Nations Ready for the future,
35:07
Speaker 1: smarter tools, stronger impact, better results. The UN system is changing.
35:12
Speaker 1: This is ushering in this anopticon that we've been talking about.
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Speaker 2: It is, it absolutely is, and in fact I will
35:19
Speaker 2: also be writing on this theme for the next magazine
35:22
Speaker 2: as well, but particularly with regard to a conscription and
35:24
Speaker 2: how you know the framing of all this, and it's
35:27
Speaker 2: very pernicious.
35:28
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Vanessa, let's come back to you then and bring
35:31
Speaker 1: us up to date. What's been going on in Lebanon
35:34
Speaker 1: and Iran?
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Speaker 10: M Yeah, I'm talking about them both together because actually
35:39
Speaker 10: they're pretty indivisible at the moment, as Iran is put
35:42
Speaker 10: high on the list of its demands from the United States,
35:47
Speaker 10: the withdrawal of Siinus forces in Lebanon, Southern Lebanon, the
35:52
Speaker 10: and two hostilities and a comprehensive ceasefire. Now, if you
35:57
Speaker 10: want to just play this video or talk over at
36:00
Speaker 10: this was an attack by Israel on the first of June.
36:03
Speaker 10: Justice President of Lebanon had set off for Washington for
36:07
Speaker 10: alleged negotiations. This is the Jabal Alamel Hospital, or rather
36:13
Speaker 10: it's the perimeter of the Jabbal Alaml Hospital entire one
36:17
Speaker 10: of the most ancient cities in Lebanon, with routes going
36:22
Speaker 10: back to Phoenician times and even prehistoric times. They were
36:26
Speaker 10: here alone, three deaths and dozens of injured, including within
36:33
Speaker 10: the hospital itself, where the ICU room was badly damaged
36:37
Speaker 10: by the shockwaves of the attack. Since March the second,
36:41
Speaker 10: there have been three four hundred Lebanese citizens killed in
36:47
Speaker 10: the hostilities and the bombing rates and drone attacks and
36:51
Speaker 10: naval attacks by Israel. So during these negotiations, I'm very
36:56
Speaker 10: much condensing it because there were a lot of communications
37:00
Speaker 10: backwards and forwards. Basically, Netta, Yahoo and Israel Katz put
37:04
Speaker 10: out a statement saying that they were going to effectively
37:08
Speaker 10: bomb the southern suburbs of Beirut. They were going to
37:12
Speaker 10: eradicate it, basically, and then during the negotiations, as a
37:17
Speaker 10: result of that threat, which was intended to put pressure
37:20
Speaker 10: on the negotiations, Trump put out this post on his
37:24
Speaker 10: truth social saying he had a very productive goal with
37:27
Speaker 10: Prime Minister Bib Natanyahu or of Israel, and there will
37:30
Speaker 10: be no troops going to be root and any troops
37:33
Speaker 10: that are on their way have already been turned back
37:35
Speaker 10: capital letters. Likewise, through highly placed representatives. I had a
37:39
Speaker 10: very good call with his Blur and they agreed that
37:41
Speaker 10: all shooting will stop, that Israel will not attack them,
37:45
Speaker 10: and they will not attack Israel. Now, just to determine
37:48
Speaker 10: this a little bit, or to translate it, Trump would
37:53
Speaker 10: not have had a call with his Bullar. But what
37:56
Speaker 10: became very clear was the threats against very route were
37:59
Speaker 10: in ten foot pressure on the negotiations because after this
38:04
Speaker 10: statement from Trump, this came out again from Netanyahu saying
38:10
Speaker 10: that their position is firm and they'll continue to operate
38:13
Speaker 10: as planned in southern Lebanon. We will attack by route
38:16
Speaker 10: if Hesbela does not stop attacking us, and Katz said
38:20
Speaker 10: Trump agreed to Bombo route in the event of an
38:22
Speaker 10: attack on Israel. We then have Eva Cooper also going
38:29
Speaker 10: on X saying basically, Israel's military escalation and Lebanon has
38:34
Speaker 10: killed and display civilians, destroyed infrastructure, and eroded space for diplomacy,
38:39
Speaker 10: it must end. But she then goes on to say
38:41
Speaker 10: Hesbela must end attacks on Israel and disarmed. So basically
38:45
Speaker 10: she's saying to the Lebanese people in the south that
38:48
Speaker 10: they are not allowed to defend themselves against the military
38:52
Speaker 10: escalation that she's supposedly condemned. And then basically what became
38:58
Speaker 10: very clear is that Iran was getting involved. It put
39:01
Speaker 10: out a statement saying asking sorry the colonizers in the
39:07
Speaker 10: north of Palestine to evacuate, very similar of course to
39:11
Speaker 10: the Zionist announcements that have put out to force evacuation
39:15
Speaker 10: within Lebanon itself, if we can just have the map
39:17
Speaker 10: up on screen, and so they put out this announcement
39:22
Speaker 10: in Hebrew and an announcement from the IRGC. If I
39:26
Speaker 10: could just have that would be great, thank you. We
39:30
Speaker 10: announced to the settlers and the occupied north of Palestine
39:33
Speaker 10: that this area that the area specified has become a
39:36
Speaker 10: closed military zone as of this moment. In the event
39:39
Speaker 10: that your criminal leaders target the southern suburbs of Beirute,
39:43
Speaker 10: the city of Beyroute, this area will be a target
39:46
Speaker 10: for attacks by the Uranian armed forces. And it was
39:50
Speaker 10: actually after this statement that there wasn't apparent back down
39:54
Speaker 10: by Israel and the southern suburbs were not attack. Then
39:58
Speaker 10: Marla Osmond Jenler in Lebanon put out this statement which
40:03
Speaker 10: is from the member of the Loyalty to the Resistance
40:05
Speaker 10: Parliamentary book. Hassan fa Dalo revealed that has Billa rejected
40:09
Speaker 10: a proposal for a partial truth that would have spared
40:12
Speaker 10: Beirut from Israeli attacks in exchange for halting operations against
40:17
Speaker 10: northern occupied Palestine. The message conveyed to all parties remains unchanged.
40:21
Speaker 10: A comprehensive ceasefire must come first, followed by the withdrawal
40:26
Speaker 10: of the occupying forces, and there will be no return
40:28
Speaker 10: to the reality that existed before March the Second, which
40:31
Speaker 10: of course was fifteen months of Hezbilla respecting the cease
40:35
Speaker 10: fire while Israel violated it thousands of times. And then
40:40
Speaker 10: moving on to Iran, I just again wanted to show
40:43
Speaker 10: this clip from Rubio's discussion in Congress reference Iran. So
40:49
Speaker 10: if we can just roll this.
40:51
Speaker 13: Iran has lost the substantial percentage of their missile launchers,
40:54
Speaker 13: and their economy is far worse today, and I mean
40:56
Speaker 13: far worse today than it was six to nine months ago,
40:59
Speaker 13: and they are looking at hundreds of billions of dollars
41:02
Speaker 13: of reconstruction costs just to get to where they were
41:04
Speaker 13: six You.
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Speaker 14: Keep telling us how we're winning this war. The President
41:07
Speaker 14: keeps saying, well, the war's o Cleli annihilated.
41:09
Speaker 4: The war is not over.
41:11
Speaker 14: And yet the American people see how we're losing at
41:14
Speaker 14: the pump and with their costs, and yet this thing
41:16
Speaker 14: still hasn't been resolved. Every day he tweets out, Oh,
41:19
Speaker 14: we've obliterated them, We've annihilated them. They're going to surrender,
41:23
Speaker 14: but yet we still find ourselves spending billions of dollars
41:25
Speaker 14: a week.
41:30
Speaker 10: I mean, I have to say it's worth watching the
41:32
Speaker 10: entire arm grilling Corey Booker. Senator Cory Booker gives Ruby
41:38
Speaker 10: a very hard time, as does Senator Chris Murphy. The
41:41
Speaker 10: war is not over. Effectively, the ILGC responded to US
41:45
Speaker 10: attacks yesterday, so it officially announces an attack on US
41:50
Speaker 10: Navy's fifth Fleet with missiles and drones. They say that
41:53
Speaker 10: the US struck in the Iranian oil tanker near the
41:56
Speaker 10: straight up Wore Moves, damaging it's engine room and ILGC
42:00
Speaker 10: telecommunications mast south of Cusham Island. In response, the IRGC
42:05
Speaker 10: says that targeted a vessel name Panaya with anti ship missiles,
42:10
Speaker 10: a US a helicopter base in a regional country which
42:14
Speaker 10: is qaight the HQ of the US Navy fifth Fleet
42:18
Speaker 10: with missiles and drones, and the statement warns that any
42:21
Speaker 10: further disruption of security in the stratform moods will bring
42:25
Speaker 10: a heavier result. So certainly the war is not over.
42:28
Speaker 10: And then another section of Kry Booker versus Rubio reveals
42:34
Speaker 10: that Rubio is well aware that Iran is benefiting from
42:39
Speaker 10: the aggression that was started by the US and Israel
42:42
Speaker 10: against Iran through the closure of the straight deform moos
42:46
Speaker 10: and the environmental tax in inverted comments that Iran has
42:50
Speaker 10: imposed on ships transiting the strait. So let's just roll this.
42:56
Speaker 7: Oil.
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Speaker 13: The Iranian oil was unsanctioned so that it could be sold,
43:00
Speaker 13: that the revenue would have to flow back to block
43:01
Speaker 13: the counts which our sanctions were able to go after.
43:04
Speaker 13: We've also seized I believe six vessels in the Indo
43:06
Speaker 13: Pacific that involved the Iranian sanctioned oil on top of it,
43:09
Speaker 13: so that wasn't necessarily a trade. They didn't get fifty
43:12
Speaker 13: billion dollars directly as a result of They might have
43:14
Speaker 13: gotten some of it, they certainly didn't get the majority
43:15
Speaker 13: of it. They are now losing hundreds of millions of
43:18
Speaker 13: dollars a day in revenue because of the blockade, and
43:20
Speaker 13: the blockade exists because of what they're doing in the straits.
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Speaker 14: Right, And I guess the conclusion I have in my
43:27
Speaker 14: time has expired is that the Strait of Reo Moves
43:30
Speaker 14: was open before this unjustified war. We're now scrambling to
43:36
Speaker 14: try to find a way to get it back opened again.
43:38
Speaker 14: Not only is it causing economic havoc to our country
43:41
Speaker 14: and to residents all around this nation, families trying to
43:44
Speaker 14: make ends meet, but you see on top of that
43:47
Speaker 14: the Iranians finding ways to leverage that as we allowed
43:51
Speaker 14: them to do with the Chinese for tens of billions
43:53
Speaker 14: of dollars.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, extraordinary. As I say, it's well worth actually watching
44:02
Speaker 10: the whole questioning of Rubia. And then interestingly, so this
44:06
Speaker 10: is the thirty first of May, the Ministry of Defense,
44:09
Speaker 10: the UK Ministry of Defense put out a statement regretting
44:13
Speaker 10: the loss of a British Army soldier on training exercises,
44:19
Speaker 10: apparently in Arabil in Iraq. So this was the thirty
44:23
Speaker 10: first of May. At the same time, American Defense Ministry
44:29
Speaker 10: also put out a statement saying that they had lost
44:32
Speaker 10: a US Army soldier that also apparently died during military training.
44:38
Speaker 10: Now Irbil Base is effectively the base of the Kurdish
44:42
Speaker 10: separatists that have been armed by TROMP to run incursions
44:45
Speaker 10: into Iran, and the attack by Iran against that base
44:49
Speaker 10: against those Kurdish separatists factions happened on the thirty first
44:54
Speaker 10: of May, so one has to wonder whether the UK
44:57
Speaker 10: is really running a so called defensive war or whether
45:00
Speaker 10: again it's embedded with the Kurdish separaturs and the elements
45:04
Speaker 10: that are going to be used to target Iran and
45:08
Speaker 10: let's say euphemistically working with them.
45:12
Speaker 2: Charles Well, absolutely, Vanessa, and first of all, pointing to
45:16
Speaker 2: John Healey when he gave his statement and House comments
45:18
Speaker 2: about this, is just interesting to observe that absolutely nobody
45:21
Speaker 2: asked any questions about what was actually going on. But
45:25
Speaker 2: what I want to do is just go back because
45:28
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four there was a press release about
45:31
Speaker 2: the Global Coalition and it was stated that during the
45:35
Speaker 2: last decade, the UK has played a leading role through
45:37
Speaker 2: Operation Shader, the UK's contribution to Inherent Resolve. So just
45:42
Speaker 2: to look at what the press press release from the
45:45
Speaker 2: time said, Operation Inherent Resolve was established in twenty fourteen
45:48
Speaker 2: to advise, assist and enable partner forces to secure the
45:52
Speaker 2: lasting defeat of DIESH and establish and during security cooperation.
45:56
Speaker 2: So I've entitled this obviously Mission Creek, because as I've
45:59
Speaker 2: just mentioned, Operation Shader came out of it. And then
46:03
Speaker 2: they go on to say that at the invitation of
46:04
Speaker 2: the Iraqi government. UK forces provided valuable support, training and
46:08
Speaker 2: assistance to more than eleven sorry, one hundred and eleven
46:10
Speaker 2: thousand members of the Iraqi security forces, including more than
46:13
Speaker 2: twenty one hundred sorry twenty one thousand of the Kurdish
46:16
Speaker 2: Peshmagha in crucial infantry, weapons, maintenance, counter ide, medical and
46:20
Speaker 2: the rest of it. Now, since that period has become
46:23
Speaker 2: very clear that the action under the banner of Opshada
46:26
Speaker 2: has been concerned to a very great extent with the
46:28
Speaker 2: so called defense of Israel and not with the supposed
46:31
Speaker 2: remit of providing assistance to Iraq. And this is a
46:34
Speaker 2: theme that I think armed forces personnel should be mindful of.
46:37
Speaker 2: There's an increasing likelihood that the engagements in operational theaters
46:40
Speaker 2: in the Middle East will be primarily or indeed exclusively
46:43
Speaker 2: concerned with the interests of Israel and not other countries
46:46
Speaker 2: and certainly not the United Kingdom. And just as a
46:49
Speaker 2: final note, there's absolutely no reference to Opshada in the
46:52
Speaker 2: where we Are map on the British Army website. Should
46:56
Speaker 2: just zoom in on the region. Nothing, so just that
46:59
Speaker 2: little bit of context for from this side. Vanessa, Yeah,
47:03
Speaker 2: thank you for that.
47:04
Speaker 10: Trians, and I also wanted to mention that, of course,
47:09
Speaker 10: whenever we are approaching an escalation and aggression, either in
47:13
Speaker 10: this region or against Iran, we get the narrative that
47:16
Speaker 10: Natanyahu and Trump have fallen out. And Trump has now
47:20
Speaker 10: gone on the interview in the United States saying yes,
47:22
Speaker 10: he did call Netanyahu crazy, et cetera, et cetera, and
47:26
Speaker 10: said that he rescued him from prosecution and so on.
47:31
Speaker 10: But I wanted to point this out. Many of these
47:33
Speaker 10: rumors usually come from a media out there called Axios,
47:36
Speaker 10: which of course is nothing more than a kind of
47:39
Speaker 10: shadowy mouthpiece for Israel. And I've mentioned before Explosive Media
47:45
Speaker 10: and Iranian animation company, and they put out this rather
47:49
Speaker 10: cute media telling us not to trust Axios and that
47:53
Speaker 10: Trump and.
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Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, well what more can we say? Thank you
48:17
Speaker 1: very much for that. Vanessa's let's come back to the UK. Now,
48:22
Speaker 1: my personal virtual private network of choice is Movad. Let's
48:26
Speaker 1: bring them on screen a stress. This is not an adversement,
48:29
Speaker 1: nor is movad sponsoring this edition of UK Call News.
48:33
Speaker 1: We can discuss maybe why I choose them an extra.
48:36
Speaker 1: But Movad has published a blog post headlined edge verification
48:41
Speaker 1: for social media at the beginning of the end for
48:43
Speaker 1: a Free Internet, which echoes many of the concerns I've
48:46
Speaker 1: been trying to highlight for several months now and now.
48:49
Speaker 1: They argue that age verification for social media is spreading
48:53
Speaker 1: globally under the banner of child safety, but it's that
48:56
Speaker 1: its real purpose is establishment, establishing government couldtrol over the Internet.
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Speaker 1: They say that although big tech platforms are criticized as
49:05
Speaker 1: surveillance driven and manipulative, that age verification is the wrong remedy,
49:11
Speaker 1: that platforms already know which users are children, so government
49:14
Speaker 1: should simply compel them to block minors rather than forcing
49:18
Speaker 1: mass identity checks on everyone. And the blog post stresses
49:21
Speaker 1: that most age verification is really identity verification, since users
49:26
Speaker 1: must identify themselves either to the platform directly or to
49:30
Speaker 1: a subcontracted third party. The twenty twenty five discord hack
49:34
Speaker 1: is one that they absolutely pull out as an example,
49:39
Speaker 1: exposing seventy thousand users' ID documents, and they pull out
49:43
Speaker 1: as an example to illustrate the risk and this undermines
49:47
Speaker 1: anonymous browsing and posting, threatens activists and whistleblowers, and creates
49:52
Speaker 1: a chilling effect, encouraging self censorship, they say, and they
49:54
Speaker 1: cite recent ukars for offensive online posts, German police raids
49:59
Speaker 1: over insults in Canada freezing protesters bank accounts back in
50:02
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two as examples. And then the writer moves
50:05
Speaker 1: on to the slippery slope that I've already reported that
50:08
Speaker 1: we're well done, and that is that national restrictions can
50:12
Speaker 1: be bypassed via VPNs, prompting moves towards VPN identity verification
50:19
Speaker 1: in the UK, France, in Utah and the United States
50:22
Speaker 1: and in the EU. And they say that controls are
50:25
Speaker 1: already being pushed at app store and operating system levels,
50:28
Speaker 1: with Apple's recent rollout of operating system level verification h
50:34
Speaker 1: verification on UK iPhones, which began in March twenty twenty six.
50:38
Speaker 1: Because open source systems can't be controlled, the writer is
50:42
Speaker 1: warning that logical endpoint is banning user control devices entirely,
50:47
Speaker 1: and the evokes the idea of or Well in in
50:50
Speaker 1: Telly streens Screens, and I think this is we've mentioned
50:53
Speaker 1: or Well and nineteen eighty four twice now on this
50:55
Speaker 1: program today so far. Malvad takes a look at the
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Speaker 1: EUS Edge verification app, which is presented by Ushula Vanderlion
51:03
Speaker 1: as completely anonymous, and they say that without functioning zero
51:08
Speaker 1: knowledge proof cryptography, issuers can still link credentials to individuals,
51:13
Speaker 1: which defeats anonymity. And they say that zero knowledge as FKP,
51:18
Speaker 1: would remain optional and removable in the app, so mix
51:23
Speaker 1: the app basically doesn't say what Ursula is suggesting. And
51:27
Speaker 1: the article concludes that child safety has repeatedly served as
51:30
Speaker 1: a pretext for mass survillance and censorship, and they cite
51:34
Speaker 1: the Online Safety Act in the UK, the Kids Online
51:36
Speaker 1: Safety Act in the USA, and the EUSE Going Dark
51:40
Speaker 1: and Protect EU client side scanning plans, and they urge
51:45
Speaker 1: that the rush towards edge verification is slowed. I would
51:48
Speaker 1: urge that it should be stopped completely. So I think
51:52
Speaker 1: they're bang on with this. I absolutely recommend everybody reads
51:55
Speaker 1: this article. The link will be in the show notes,
51:58
Speaker 1: and I'm going to argue once again that verification needs
52:01
Speaker 1: to be moved fraud and center of the digital ID
52:04
Speaker 1: resistance efforts.
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Speaker 2: Any thoughts, well, it just conforms to the general principle
52:10
Speaker 2: of safety being an exchange where you have to give something,
52:14
Speaker 2: usually freedom in apparent expectation that something will get better,
52:19
Speaker 2: and it doesn't.
52:20
Speaker 4: Indeed.
52:21
Speaker 1: Indeed, Vanessa, let's come back to you then, and well,
52:25
Speaker 1: what is a banker Trump doing in Albinia.
52:30
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, it's all very sinister, and I'm not going
52:34
Speaker 10: to be able to cover all of it in the news.
52:37
Speaker 10: But let's just roll this recent interview with a banker Trump,
52:40
Speaker 10: who of course is married to Zionist Jared Kushner, who's
52:45
Speaker 10: investing in the girls of waterfront property, wants, of course,
52:50
Speaker 10: in his head, the genocide is completed. So let's just
52:54
Speaker 10: roll a banker.
52:56
Speaker 15: It's massive in scale.
52:58
Speaker 4: I think that's an understainment.
52:59
Speaker 10: Can you.
53:01
Speaker 4: There's no power on this island you're building, You're building
53:04
Speaker 4: everything from scratch.
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Speaker 15: It's an unbelievable, beautiful, fourteen hundred hector private island in
53:10
Speaker 15: the middle of the Mediterranean. We were on a friend's
53:13
Speaker 15: boat and we stopped for a swim. Effectively, that's how
53:16
Speaker 15: we found it. We swim to the islands, we went
53:19
Speaker 15: on a hike barefoot all the way up to the top,
53:22
Speaker 15: and we were just captivated.
53:29
Speaker 10: Sounds perfectly heavenly, doesn't that? Anyway? The island itself is sasan,
53:35
Speaker 10: It's off the coast of Albania, and we can see
53:40
Speaker 10: it here on the map. It's an area of environmental
53:45
Speaker 10: ecological importance, which of course is going to be totally
53:50
Speaker 10: destroyed by the one point four billion plus project. But
53:54
Speaker 10: I want to go back to an article from July
53:58
Speaker 10: twenty twenty five in The Jacobin. Here is Jared Kushna
54:03
Speaker 10: albanias for sale, and Jared Kushner is buying. Donald Trump's
54:06
Speaker 10: son in law, Jared Kushner has sealed a one point
54:09
Speaker 10: four billion deal to redevelop Albania's largest island, long a
54:13
Speaker 10: protected area. Now it's set to be paved over to
54:16
Speaker 10: build a luxury report and also within the article, two
54:20
Speaker 10: projects are linked by more than similarly tasteless visions of
54:24
Speaker 10: luxury affinity partners. The investment vehicle through which Kushna is
54:29
Speaker 10: buying up Suzan was created to use Saudi money to
54:32
Speaker 10: cross fertilize investment between Israel and the Arab world, and Albania,
54:37
Speaker 10: a poor European country with a Muslim identity and a
54:40
Speaker 10: hunger for Western integration, is a key piece of the puzzle.
54:45
Speaker 10: And in conjunction with what Kushner is doing, there are
54:49
Speaker 10: Israeli sponsored schools AI data centers being established by Israel
54:55
Speaker 10: in Albania itself, and those projects are ongoing. David Miller
55:01
Speaker 10: also went onto x to discuss what he thinks is
55:05
Speaker 10: most likely going to happen on the island. So he
55:07
Speaker 10: talks about the interview with Ivanka Trump, the first level
55:12
Speaker 10: of cover story for their purchase of Sazan Island and
55:15
Speaker 10: Albania just across from the heel of Italy. It's a
55:18
Speaker 10: result of a lot of reflection on how I want
55:21
Speaker 10: to live, says Ivanka, and the second level of the
55:24
Speaker 10: cover story. The island hosts three thousand, six hundred Soviet
55:28
Speaker 10: era tunnels and hardened bunkers built to withstand a nuclear attack,
55:33
Speaker 10: bunkers for end time billionaires. This is their plan for Albania,
55:37
Speaker 10: luxury resort for their rich bodies. Once they've finished bribing
55:40
Speaker 10: Albanian officials and de mind the island, they'll be able
55:44
Speaker 10: to host the ultra wealthy pedophile Epstein class again under
55:48
Speaker 10: the Trump ran in secret, with no accountability, and with
55:51
Speaker 10: bunkers they can use for their sick sexual aufantities and
55:55
Speaker 10: experiments on kids. Of course, this is David's opinion, but
56:00
Speaker 10: one has to wonder when when looks at the ai
56:04
Speaker 10: images that Jared Kushner has produced on his Instagram showing
56:09
Speaker 10: exactly how he intends to develop the island. And I
56:12
Speaker 10: also have to say there is massive pushback and protest
56:15
Speaker 10: within Albania itself against the project because it's not land
56:20
Speaker 10: that is unpopulated. There are of course agricultural workers, farms, fishing, villages, etc.
56:27
Speaker 10: That will be effectively ethnically clans. And then I just
56:32
Speaker 10: wanted to play this. This say is of course from
56:35
Speaker 10: Jared Kushner himself, and because when people question about Albania
56:40
Speaker 10: having a Muslim identity, of course what we have to
56:43
Speaker 10: remember is Jared Kushner created the Abraham Accords precisely for
56:47
Speaker 10: this purpose, to bring on board Sunni Muslim countries and
56:52
Speaker 10: to normalize relations with Israel in order to facilitate these
56:57
Speaker 10: kinds of projects. So let's just listen to Jared Rusher.
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Speaker 4: And also to find new opportunities.
57:04
Speaker 16: So I have a partner, my partner Asher, who I
57:06
Speaker 16: mentioned before, he's actually of Moroccan descent and actually Obseran descent.
57:10
Speaker 16: So we've been looking maybe there's some opportunities to bring
57:13
Speaker 16: investment to Morocco. A country that I know you're very
57:16
Speaker 16: proud of to really help them create dividends from the
57:19
Speaker 16: Abraham Accords.
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Speaker 10: So there in the background also you'll see his pr
57:27
Speaker 10: for the Albania project. So, as I said, I've really
57:31
Speaker 10: only touched on the tip of the iceberg. But there
57:33
Speaker 10: will be further information forth coming in an article.
57:37
Speaker 1: Thank you, Vanessa, thank you for that. Now let's finish
57:41
Speaker 1: then today with this is a blog post on their
57:46
Speaker 1: Trust the Evidence substack. This is Carl Hennigan and Tom
57:49
Speaker 1: Jefferson and they're responding to Camilla Turner's Sunday Telegraph report
57:54
Speaker 1: on their formal challenge to the UK COVID nineteen Quarri's
57:57
Speaker 1: use of modeling in this module for vaccines report. Now,
58:02
Speaker 1: the article, this article in the Telegraph here was built
58:05
Speaker 1: on Trust the Evidence analysis and the letter the authors
58:10
Speaker 1: submitted to the UK Statistics Regulator, which is the Office
58:14
Speaker 1: for Statistics Regulation. The Telegraph reported that the two Oxford
58:18
Speaker 1: academics that's Hannigan who was who is director of Oxford's
58:21
Speaker 1: Center for Evidence Based Medicine, and Jefferson, who's a senior
58:24
Speaker 1: associate tutor, have urged the UK's statistics watchdog to open
58:29
Speaker 1: an inquiry. Their central concern is that the inquiry presented
58:33
Speaker 1: highly uncertain modeling with a degree of confidence the underlying
58:37
Speaker 1: evidence cannot support. So at issue are the headline figures.
58:43
Speaker 1: They say that estimates that vaccination saved four hundred and
58:46
Speaker 1: forty nine two hundred and forty one lives in England
58:50
Speaker 1: and twenty five three hundred and eighty six in Scotland
58:53
Speaker 1: by March twenty three. They're saying that the evidence doesn't
58:58
Speaker 1: support those numbers, and Hanegan and Hennigan and Jefferson argue
59:01
Speaker 1: that these numbers are derived from mathematical models that rely
59:05
Speaker 1: on assumptions about vaccine efficacy, winning immunity, prior infection, behavioral responses,
59:12
Speaker 1: and hypothetical scenarios that were never really observed. And they
59:17
Speaker 1: contend that this modeling gives the public an impression of
59:21
Speaker 1: evidential certainty that does not exist. So Heneghan told The
59:26
Speaker 1: Telegraph it was vital that the inquiry sticks to the facts,
59:30
Speaker 1: warning that reports will sit in the public record. The
59:35
Speaker 1: inquiries reports will sit in the public record and shape
59:37
Speaker 1: future pandemic policy, and that the errors are serious enough
59:42
Speaker 1: to warrant a correction. And they place these concerns alongside
59:46
Speaker 1: the earlier Office for Statistics Regulation Intervention, which criticized the
59:52
Speaker 1: inquiry's Module II report for overstating the certainty of modeling.
59:56
Speaker 1: The twenty three thousand deaths could have been avoided by
59:59
Speaker 1: an earlier lockdown. So the USR has begun an initial
1:00:04
Speaker 1: review and they may examine whether the inquiries communication of
1:00:08
Speaker 1: statistical evidence meets the standards for the public use of statistics.
1:00:14
Speaker 1: Any brief thoughts, Well, it's how do you ever get
1:00:20
Speaker 1: to it? I mean, what, you know, what is this about?
1:00:22
Speaker 2: Because saving somebody's life until when it's the whole thing,
1:00:27
Speaker 2: it's just such a mine field. Yes, and so you know,
1:00:31
Speaker 2: really it's always going to be done the other way around,
1:00:33
Speaker 2: where you decide what results you want and you program
1:00:38
Speaker 2: the model in order to deliver that.
1:00:39
Speaker 4: Yet another example of that. Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, thank you for that, Charles, Thank you Vanessa
1:00:45
Speaker 1: for your articles today or your content today. Thanks to
1:00:48
Speaker 1: everybody that's watched. We've got to leave it there for night.
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