Latest / Gabriel Ellis, PhD | The Curious Mind Podcast / The Core of Historical Buddhist Practice: Meditation of Bliss
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- 0:02Hello and welcome to another episode of the Curious Mind
- 0:05podcast. My name is Gabriel Ellis, I'm a
- 0:07psychologist, psychotherapist, and I got my doctorate degree in
- 0:13Buddhist studies. And today I want to complete the
- 0:17small series that I made about original Buddhism.
- 0:23The first episode I tried to give you the historical and
- 0:26cultural context in which the Buddha came up with his
- 0:30teaching. And the second episode I focused
- 0:34on what I see as the basis and the fundamental aspect or
- 0:40attitude of Buddhism, namely the teaching that nothing has a self
- 0:45nature, that everything, every phenomenon comes up as a result
- 0:51of conditions that suited this phenomenon to arise.
- 0:55And when then when these conditions fall apart and also
- 0:59this phenomenon falls apart, and a direct consequence of this is
- 1:05that we don't put we, what I mean, we the audience of the
- 1:09Buddha, which are the monks and nuns who followed him, that they
- 1:13don't put the faith that they have of the spiritual
- 1:16aspirations into anything that is conditioned, be it something
- 1:20mundane as central pleasure and wealth and money and so on, or
- 1:25something that is more spiritual, spiritually elevated.
- 1:29Which is when because of certain conditions, I reach a meditation
- 1:33state that feels calm and sublime and happy and so on.
- 1:36Also in that we don't put our faith, we continue to be
- 1:39dispassionate about anything that is conditioned, including
- 1:43our deeply rooted identifications with the
- 1:46so-called 55 Khandas, those different dimensions of
- 1:52attachment or identification that I mentioned last time.
- 1:55So regarding all of these, we are dispassionate and order then
- 2:00to progress and to elevate the mind so that in the end, the
- 2:05goal of complete liberation occurs.
- 2:10Today, I want to go more into the details.
- 2:13Last time I told you that I focused on the 1st aspect of the
- 2:17Noble hateful path, which was Right views.
- 2:20And right views is basically a shorthand for the teachings of
- 2:24the Buddha about these fundamental things, of how we
- 2:28have to regard and how do we have to understand the mind, its
- 2:32natural inclination to attachments, and to see the
- 2:38phenomena of the mind in a very Contra intuitive way, namely as
- 2:43not having their own essence being based on conditions.
- 2:48Now let's look at the other aspects of the eightfold path.
- 2:53The second one is right thought, the third one right speech, then
- 2:57right action, right livelihood, right effort, right meditation,
- 3:03and then the right unification of the mind.
- 3:08The right meditation as sati, which I will come to talk about
- 3:11later, and the unification of the mind is samadhi.
- 3:16Now most of those aspects are not really interested to me
- 3:21today because they are not originally Buddhist.
- 3:25To have a way of thinking, a way of speaking, a way of acting, to
- 3:30have a certain kind of livelihood, to put some effort
- 3:33into the spiritual training is more or less common to all
- 3:38spiritual traditions today and back then as well.
- 3:42Just to mention again, the one that we most have most
- 3:45information about, the vaginas, the Niigantas, they still exist
- 3:50today and they also have a code of ethics focusing much stricter
- 3:57in a certain way than Buddhism on non violence.
- 4:01What is interesting to us is a little bit right effort and then
- 4:06the sati, what I call medication, and then the
- 4:10unification of the mind which is samadhi.
- 4:14To circle back a little bit to the last topic where I
- 4:20highlighted the dependent origination, I want to emphasize
- 4:25that this understanding of depending or dependent
- 4:29origination or dependent emergence is the dependent
- 4:34emergence of suffering. It's not the dependent emergence
- 4:36of everything. If that would be it, then there
- 4:39would be no liberation possible. So dependent on the origination
- 4:44is the origination of suffering. Coming now to the central
- 4:50aspect, what I think of the Buddhist practice, it is leading
- 4:55aside ethics and so on. It is meditation, and I will
- 5:00highlight why that is. Meditation is the place, the
- 5:06practice, the setup where the final liberation takes place, or
- 5:11as a consequence of which the final liberation takes place.
- 5:16And the texts are so clear about that, that we have no reason to
- 5:22challenge this understanding of Buddhism.
- 5:25Now, why is it that meditation is so difficult?
- 5:28And why is that we Westerners, when we think of Buddhism, we
- 5:34immediately go to the practice of meditation?
- 5:37Why is that a misunderstanding because the ability to meditate
- 5:43successfully, and I put this a little bit in quotes
- 5:46successfully, but in order to to reach the and achieve the
- 5:51absorptions of meditation, the fruit of meditation, we need to
- 5:55prepare the mind and here comes in the hubris and the
- 6:00overestimation of the typical western mindset.
- 6:04We think that as soon as we have intellectually grasped a
- 6:09concept, when someone has described to us how meditation
- 6:14practice, for example, works, then we can just sit down and
- 6:19start a practice. And then eventually we should
- 6:21come to the conclusion a little bit like in philosophy.
- 6:25But just as in philosophy, we cannot sit down and, you know,
- 6:30without any preparation. Read texts like of Plato or of
- 6:35Cunt or of Hegel or whoever you like.
- 6:39It needs prerequisites. We need to establish a certain
- 6:43way of thinking, a resoluteness of logical rigor, for example,
- 6:48for many philosophical texts. So for someone who is not
- 6:52prepared for it, they will open up the book, read something and
- 6:57it will make no sense for them, and then they will think that
- 7:00it's stupid, overcomplicated or something.
- 7:02In this of this sort, and similarly and even much, much,
- 7:08much more so, the practice of meditation depends on a certain
- 7:13set up, on conditions. There are several terms for that
- 7:19in the Buddhist Pali language. One concept is that of a gradual
- 7:26path, a gradual development of the spiritual practitioner.
- 7:32It starts with ethics. So ethics something.
- 7:35Ethics is something that might not be unique to Buddhism, but
- 7:38nonetheless, it is something that ascetics or aspiring
- 7:43ascetics have to go through in order to prepare the mind to,
- 7:48for example, rid itself of the most crude violent impulses that
- 7:54it has the emotional impulses to misdirect our thoughts, to
- 8:01hijack our our intentions, for example.
- 8:04For all of that, proper ethics is important, The Buddhist
- 8:08variation of what proper ethic means.
- 8:11And here they disagreed a little bit with the other spiritual
- 8:14directions of the time. For the Buddha, proper ethics is
- 8:18that when thinking, when acting, when communicating, I make sure
- 8:24that I do it in a way that doesn't harm me and doesn't harm
- 8:27others. So this is basically how the
- 8:29texts describe the approach to ethics.
- 8:33And next, preparation is moderation and lifestyle
- 8:37restraint when it comes to central pleasures and to
- 8:43establish an awareness in daily life with a strong emphasis on
- 8:48my body awareness to understand at any given moment.
- 8:52And of course, this is a strong high ideal to understand in
- 8:57every given moment what my body is doing, how it moves, how I
- 9:02direct my attention, when I direct the attention into the
- 9:06body, how I'm looking back and forth, how I swallow, how I
- 9:12defecate, all of those bodily functions to see them as they
- 9:16are in a very sober way and recognizing what is happening
- 9:22with my body and the way that I utilize it.
- 9:27This is already a pretty good setup for what then comes later,
- 9:33the meditation practice. There is a step that is
- 9:38somewhere in between kind of the basic awareness, the practice of
- 9:43basic awareness, and the very specific meditation techniques,
- 9:48and these are called the Brahma viharas.
- 9:51This is the divine abodes as they are translated in English.
- 9:56Brahma is basically, to put it simply, the highest Indian
- 10:02divinity. And the Bihar is a location and
- 10:07abode a place. So this is a practice that is
- 10:12supposed to bring to the spiritual practitioner to a
- 10:18place that is usually reserved for divine beings, the highest
- 10:23divine beings. What the what these do
- 10:30basically, let me just tell you the four major practices.
- 10:34One is meta loving kindness. The next one is compassion.
- 10:37The third one is sympathetic joy, to be joyful with others.
- 10:43And the 4th one is equanimity. I will come to this equanimity
- 10:47later, but basically this is the establishment, the cultivation
- 10:51of qualities of heart, and as it is described in the texts they
- 10:57provide, when they're fully established, a cheto vimutti,
- 11:01which is a liberation of consciousness.
- 11:06This we have to understand as temporary.
- 11:09This is not the final liberation of what is then termed Nirvana
- 11:14or Nirvana, but it is so powerful that it liberates the
- 11:19heart, it liberates consciousness and is often
- 11:23described in such a way that it seems to be an ideal setup for
- 11:28the higher meditations and for liberation in general.
- 11:34It is sometimes not clear if this is entirely Buddhist, but
- 11:37it seems to me from the tech studies that it's actually quite
- 11:41a Buddhist approach to aid to support the practitioner in the
- 11:47quest. And we know from Thai Buddhism,
- 11:51for example, they have a forest tradition there where a certain
- 11:56group or tradition of monastics tried to emulate the life of the
- 12:02Buddha by leaving the monasteries and basically living
- 12:06in the forests and very simple ways, harsh conditions.
- 12:10And some of those teachers in this forest tradition, they
- 12:14taught meta loving kindness, those hard qualities to the
- 12:19monastics so that under the harsh conditions they have a
- 12:24protection. So we can imagine that there are
- 12:27wild animals in the forest and monastics are not allowed to
- 12:32defend themselves physically. But what they can do is that
- 12:36they can develop a heart of loving kindness that radiates so
- 12:41much. So they say that wild animals
- 12:43would not attack them because they would basically sense that
- 12:47there is no danger coming from this person or being otherwise
- 12:52pacified by their radiance. So it has this double function
- 12:56of liberating the mind and of serving as a protector of body
- 13:04and mind. By the way, the way that is this
- 13:08meditations are described is that the heart quality of, for
- 13:12example, loving kindness is so established that the heart
- 13:17starts to radiate to all directions equally.
- 13:22So this is a high accomplishment.
- 13:24This is by no means an easy feat.
- 13:27This is just as demanding as the other meditation techniques.
- 13:33OK, so we had ethics, which is not particularly Buddhist but is
- 13:39necessary for an aesthetic. There is moderation, sense,
- 13:42restraint and awareness during daily life activities,
- 13:46especially with a focus on the body.
- 13:49Also that might not be originally Buddhist but is
- 13:53necessary for an aesthetic lifestyle that is geared towards
- 13:57a final liberation on the Buddhist path.
- 13:59Then we have this quite specific Buddhist meditation practice of
- 14:04the Divine Abodes Rama Vihara, and the most prominent of them
- 14:09is loving kindness. And now we come to the realm of
- 14:13meditation, which includes 2 terms, mostly the giant Janaz.
- 14:19These are the levels of absorption and samadhi is the
- 14:23general term for the mind that is unified.
- 14:27And after that, according to the text, there is the full
- 14:29liberation or cessation or Nirvana.
- 14:35Now, what is the thing that stands out in Buddhist
- 14:39meditation? Because the other traditions
- 14:42were meditating in a way as well, We have to assume, and we
- 14:46have some hints, that they were doing spiritual practices.
- 14:50They did, of course, they did something with the mind, for
- 14:52example, the harsh ascetics, of which the Jinas were basically
- 14:58part of this camp. In order to endure all this
- 15:01pain, all the fasting, of course you have to do something with
- 15:06the mind. It needs resoluteness, it needs
- 15:09a harshness, it needs a strength and also mental qualities that
- 15:13enable the people to do these harsh things.
- 15:15So we can call that meditation. What was unique about the Buddha
- 15:20and his approach to meditation, what is unique about him is that
- 15:25he understood that harshness and self, self punishment and this
- 15:32extreme pharmaceuticism is not conducive to the spiritual path.
- 15:37Quite the opposite. He discovered that joy is a
- 15:42necessary motor, a necessary catalyst for the development in
- 15:48spiritual meditation. This has a term in the Buddhist
- 15:52language, it's called the middle path and it describes that the
- 15:57Buddha understands that there is something else, a third thing
- 16:01besides the extremes of central pleasure which which basically
- 16:05characterizes lay life like fame, money, central
- 16:12gratifications, sexuality, food and all the other joys.
- 16:16So this is seen as an extreme. The other extreme is the self
- 16:20mortification that the ascetics at the Buddhist time practiced
- 16:24and you understood. There is a third element.
- 16:27Ascetics are afraid of pleasure probably because it reminds them
- 16:32of the the worldly pleasure, the mundane pleasures of laypeople,
- 16:38and they're afraid to slip away from their ascetic ascetic
- 16:41practices if they give in to their sensual pleasures.
- 16:47So they have a tendency to be quite afraid of those and to
- 16:50shun those and to criticize those.
- 16:53Here's a quote from the Buddha that shows basically the shift
- 16:59in his attitude. Now, we don't have to assume
- 17:02that he literally said this, but something like this must have
- 17:05occurred. The quote goes like this.
- 17:08Why am I afraid of that pleasure?
- 17:11For it has nothing to do with sensual pleasures or unskillful
- 17:15qualities. This is the description of the
- 17:21Buddha describing the meditation that goes along joy, the
- 17:25experience of joy. And then he reflects and asks
- 17:29himself, why am I afraid of this, implying that he and other
- 17:34ascetics are or were afraid of this.
- 17:37And so he questions this implicit dogma, this fear of any
- 17:43kind of pleasure, rejects it, follows it, and thus develops
- 17:49the higher meditations that then lay the foundation for his
- 17:52liberation. He then further, he further
- 17:58reflects once he discovers that this is good for him, that he
- 18:01wants to develop this quote. I can't achieve that pleasure
- 18:06with a body so excessively emaciated.
- 18:10So this is basically putting him in into a practice of extreme
- 18:14fasting and asceticism. And then the understanding, I
- 18:18cannot even sustain the energy of such pleasure.
- 18:23I cannot keep it, I cannot achieve it if my body is so
- 18:26weakened. And so according to the mini
- 18:29biography and those suitors, they started to eat a little bit
- 18:33more and thus to deviate from the other ascetics and their
- 18:38practices. We get so many hints in the
- 18:43Buddhist text about how important joy was for him, so
- 18:48that it is basically the most important characteristic of the
- 18:52first John, the first clear stage of absorption in the
- 18:58Buddhist meditation. And I read you the quote for
- 19:00that. It's repeated so many times in
- 19:02the Buddhist suttas. We assume that it is quite old,
- 19:07and something like that must have been part of original
- 19:10Buddhism as well, be it in another wording.
- 19:13Here comes the quote. Quite secluded from central
- 19:16pleasures, the dangers of what lay people live, Secluded from
- 19:21unskillful qualities. The meditator enters and remains
- 19:26in the first absorption, which has rapture and bliss.
- 19:32Born of seclusion as a quality rapture and bliss, strong joyful
- 19:40terms here while placing the mind and keeping it connected.
- 19:44So there's an interpretation of that, that it refers to a
- 19:48meditation technique. So it's secluded from sensual
- 19:51pleasures. It's secluded from other
- 19:54unskillful qualities. Then the mind after those
- 19:58preparations that I laid out before the ethical, the sense
- 20:03restraint, the. Awareness on the body and so on.
- 20:09After all that, the meditator goes into this joyful state of
- 20:15mind. Now how to navigate this finding
- 20:21of the joy within the meditation?
- 20:23Here the Buddhist texts are interestingly specific and they
- 20:28say the meditator drenches, steeps, fills and spreads his
- 20:36body with rapture and bliss borne of seclusion.
- 20:40There is no part of the body that is not spread with rapture
- 20:44and bliss borne of seclusion. And here the text provide also a
- 20:49simile. It's like when a deft bathroom
- 20:52attendant or The Apprentice pours bath powder into a bronze
- 20:57dish, sprinkling it little by little with water.
- 21:01They need it until kneading like dough.
- 21:04They knead it until the ball of bath powder is soaked and
- 21:08saturated with moisture spread through, inside and out.
- 21:13Yet no moisture oozes out. And exactly that way the
- 21:17meditators drench, steep, fill and spread their body with
- 21:22rupture and bliss. So it's not about to recognize
- 21:26that bliss. No.
- 21:27We maximize the awareness, the feeling of the bliss and spread
- 21:31it all through the perception of our body.
- 21:34This is the instruction which shows how important, how
- 21:37essential the development and the mastery of this quality of
- 21:43joyful meditation is in original Buddhism.
- 21:46It establishes the first absorption in meditation, and
- 21:52then it goes on. The joy develops in meditation
- 21:56in different levels. There are different lists in the
- 21:59Buddhist texts that describe this.
- 22:01I put two lists together to give you an idealized version of how
- 22:05the progress in meditation happens.
- 22:10The beginning is there must be a teaching, a Dharma, and like I
- 22:16pointed out last time in Right View, to convey to the thirsting
- 22:24ears and mind of the one who wants to know, who wants to
- 22:27practice, to convey to them, at least in the beginning, the
- 22:30intellectual concepts of what truth is intellectually but yet
- 22:36convincing in a resonating way so that they understand.
- 22:39Yes, this must be true. It does not realized yet, but it
- 22:43has been confirmed through their own understanding, through their
- 22:45own resonance as something that seems so much, makes so much
- 22:51sense, so that I want to dedicate my life to realize this
- 22:55in actuality. So this is the Buddha Dharma,
- 22:59the Dharma, the teaching. Then after those preparatory
- 23:04steps that I mentioned, when I actually sit down in meditation,
- 23:09I employ sati, which is usually translated as as mindfulness,
- 23:15but literally sati from Sanskrit smriti is memory, and I take it
- 23:23not in the sense of mindfulness. I think this is a
- 23:26mistranslation. I take it literally.
- 23:29It's the memory. The memory of what?
- 23:31It's the memory of the Buddha's teaching.
- 23:34So when I sit down, I allow to come up an aspect of the
- 23:39teaching that I want to practice.
- 23:42The next step is Dhamma Pichaiya, which is the
- 23:46investigation of the teaching. So I heard the teaching from the
- 23:52Buddha or one of his students, my meditation teacher.
- 23:56In the medication I bring it up into my memory and then I start
- 23:59to investigate it. I chew on it, or in other words,
- 24:03I relate to the teaching. For example of impermanence.
- 24:07I related to what is happening in my own mind.
- 24:10I can see and watch how my mind is constantly composed and
- 24:16decomposed, how impermanence is a founding principle of how my
- 24:20mind works all the time. And so chewing on it,
- 24:25investigating it, I see the truth of it.
- 24:30The next aspect that is pointed out is video.
- 24:32It means strength, and here I can assume that it needs the
- 24:36bigger, it needs the courage, it needs the strength to apply
- 24:40again and again those aspects that I want to basically
- 24:45practice and discover to apply it again and again.
- 24:47To my mind, out of that there comes the first gladness, the
- 24:55first joy. It's called an Nepali.
- 24:58It's Pamuja, which is not yet a formal establishment of the
- 25:05first absorption, but it's a preparatory step.
- 25:09So even before I reach the first absorption in the Buddhist
- 25:13meditation, there is already joy.
- 25:15And here it is again, the characteristic of Buddhist
- 25:18meditation, pleasure, joy that is not coming from sensual
- 25:24gratification, as laypeople would usually handle the life
- 25:29approach to life. It's born out of the distance
- 25:33from it. It's born out of dealing,
- 25:35applying, and realizing The first aspect of the Buddhist
- 25:39teachings within my mind. This is that gladness.
- 25:42This is that joy. Out of that comes the first
- 25:46formal establishment of meditative joy.
- 25:49The probably term is PT, which is a strong happiness.
- 25:53It's strong joy that comes with fuller realization or the
- 25:58harvesting, basically the fruits of my investigations of the
- 26:02Buddhist teaching, applying the method, meditation method.
- 26:06This is this strong happiness. And now as you heard before, as
- 26:12the simile went or the description went, I take this
- 26:17joy, this strong happiness, and I fill up my whole body with
- 26:21that. And the result of that is the
- 26:23next step, which is the calmness of the body.
- 26:27Calmness. Why?
- 26:28Because the body and the mind and the heart, finally they have
- 26:32achieved what they set out to do.
- 26:36This is what we're usually striving for when we are
- 26:39following our desires in daily life, made for food,
- 26:43acknowledgement, career, money. We actually hope to get this
- 26:48full satisfaction, to have the full bodily satisfaction as
- 26:52well. And here we have achieved it
- 26:54with meditation at this stage, and because we finally came
- 26:59home, because we finally got what we wanted, the body is
- 27:02pacified, body is calm, the polyterm is pasaji.
- 27:09As a result of that, the next step is called suka, which is a
- 27:13more profound pleasure. And continuing to apply the
- 27:17Buddhist teaching also to that state of mind, to the strong
- 27:21happiness, to the calmness of the body, I'm applying my
- 27:24meditation to that. I understand it.
- 27:27And a result of that is a refinement of the pleasure,
- 27:32which is a more profound level. And this is suka.
- 27:35Suka, by the way, sometimes is the opposite of Luka of
- 27:39suffering. So it is a counterweight.
- 27:42It is a deep satisfaction that comes from that.
- 27:46And suka is already goes into the direction and intersects
- 27:50with the even more fundamental term of meditation, samadhi,
- 27:54which is a profound unification of the mind.
- 27:58Meditation teachers have described it as a solid rock
- 28:02solidity of the mind, of this pleasure, something that is very
- 28:07stable. This is what samadhi is,
- 28:09according to our descriptions. And the next step of that is to
- 28:14continue to apply the Buddhist teachings, for example, on
- 28:18conditionality, also to the samadhi.
- 28:21And we have descriptions where the next step is to see the
- 28:25samadhi and to understand the samadhi.
- 28:28And this level is in partly called upeka.
- 28:33The root of the word is UPA iksh, which means a close
- 28:38observation, closely seen, closely observing, observing
- 28:43what? I'm observing the samadhi, the
- 28:46state of samadhi. So I'm taking the distance from
- 28:48it. I observe it.
- 28:51This is what the concept is. And through that I achieve the
- 28:56conditions according to the texts.
- 28:59Then that lead more or less automatically.
- 29:03This is how the descriptions go to the full liberation of the
- 29:07mind. OK, so today I hope to clarify
- 29:11and to show you to convey to you what the fundamental
- 29:16characteristic of Buddhist meditation is.
- 29:19Namely it is based on the preparatory steps of developing
- 29:26the mind so that it is withdrawn, it's self-contained,
- 29:30it's content because of the ethical habits that it has went
- 29:36through. It has made first steps into the
- 29:39skills that are then needed in meditation, namely in awareness,
- 29:45practice of awareness, withdrawing the senses from the
- 29:48outside world, keeping them inside, and then establishing,
- 29:53based on the Buddhist concepts, the Buddhist teachings that I
- 29:56investigate. Establishing a joy that then is
- 30:00filled throughout the whole body and then more and more refined
- 30:04while I'm not clinging, of course, not attaching myself to
- 30:08those joys as an achievement because I understand that these
- 30:13are just conditionally emerged. So I let them go.
- 30:18I continue to apply the Buddhist teaching often permanence off
- 30:21conditionality. The mind becomes more and more
- 30:24subtle. Also the joy becomes more and
- 30:26more subtle. And then in the last steps, the
- 30:29samadhi, which is an incredibly refined, stable state of the
- 30:34mind is then also observed with equanimity with Upeka.
- 30:40OK, I hope you enjoyed this episode, this three-part roundup
- 30:45of what seems to be the most fundamental aspects of original
- 30:50Buddhism. I hope you understand more how
- 30:53it's embedded in the ascetic culture of India, North East
- 30:57India of that time. Let me know if you have
- 31:00questions and comments. Subscribe if you're interested
- 31:02in more content like this and I hope to see you next time.