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Barely Live #63 - Beer, Pizza And Fred Stivers · Barely Live

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Speaker 1: Your fat ears we've started. Yeah, there is cross member
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of a chair creaking over there, a little too much
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baseball chair. Absolutely the last.
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Speaker 2: Well, they're they're living their best lives.
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Speaker 1: That's not my.
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Speaker 3: Sire.
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Speaker 2: Everybody camera one camera too four.
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Speaker 1: Hey, look at this French Steibers kind Uh.
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Speaker 2: This is somebody walking on the window. I'm like, I'm
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a little add a little like squirrel man, so uh,
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let me let me get to our our Spotify action.
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I'm like unmedicated, a d D. Though, I'm just out
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here raw dog in life, no help, I guess the
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way you should do. It's just letteral.
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Speaker 1: The boy of these songs too high that actually brings
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up a good pun. What is the you noticed these
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people posting stories of them raw dog and flights like
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trans fights, like they're just like, I've got major sports
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fans about this. I don't understand what the point of
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it is. Why would you torut yourself miss saying.
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Speaker 2: Dumbest ever, I can't see not like I could see,
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like no technology right, like if you didn't want to
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do that, that's that's where they But bring a book,
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like a hard copy book, like hell, take a coloring book.
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Yeah exactly, Yeah, not to sit there and stare straight ahead.
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Speaker 4: That's like play solidaire risk.
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Speaker 5: Barely.
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Speaker 1: I think that's good there, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean to all the people that hate that we
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play music in general.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So you're supposed to have nothing but the
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mapple and you can have the maple. Oh you can
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have the map I said, I didn't know that. So
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what's the point of not enjoying your flight and bragging
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about it? What is that? What's the deal with these
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dude just raw up? Maybe?
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Speaker 2: I mean, okay, so there's if you're just doing it
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to prove your tough, it's stupid if you wanted to
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do it so like for some of the reasons, if
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you wanted to take that time to be like, look,
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I'm just gonna introspectively think about things, meditate if you will,
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like you could. I could see somebody turning it to
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that angle, which is hard to do in a plane,
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because I wanted to me.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but that just seems weird to me. Like I said,
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I could see no technology, but I had a hard
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book magazine to find magazines such as Field and Streamer.
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Speaker 4: I mean, just fall asleep. I would just FindOut.
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Speaker 1: Just call fall asleep yeah, I slept twelve hours.
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Speaker 6: I was the longest, the longest flat everyone on was
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Transatlantic and on the way there I was too amped up.
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There was no sleeping and I left. We left lant
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at like five p m. Land in Paris at like
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seven am or something. But yeah, I thought I was like,
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well I was sleep and I didn't.
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Speaker 1: I just like I.
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Speaker 2: Raw dogged it all the way across that because I
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had a book.
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Speaker 1: I had a book to read.
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Speaker 6: But yeah, now the way home, we launched or took
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off out of Paris to come home, and I slept
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the whole damn flight.
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Speaker 1: Like I didn't. Yeah, I was like, I was so tired. Uh.
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I did England and I think that was like six hours.
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But there's no way I could have run, like wait, wait, wait, listen.
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So re reading a little bit different mic set up. Yeah,
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I wanted to try something different and I hope it works,
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and like Mike said, we might next time.
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Speaker 4: Suspended from the steeling, there's.
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Speaker 2: A lot of just ambient noise with it.
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Speaker 4: Like that turns your but hey, that's that's part of
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the deal.
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Speaker 1: Though sensitive. I think it's kind of more fun not
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having a mic in your face and dealing with the
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ards at the end of the day. That's things I
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have to deal with because now we have a whole
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newsroom production set up. I do miss the bass, the
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simple Yeah, I missed the base. What's the base.
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Speaker 2: Being able to get up in that time?
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Speaker 1: You want to get it? Well, you can get up
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in this thing if you want to. Wow, that sounds
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a lot better if we all just spend breathing all start.
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I promise it sounding good that I tested it all day. Yeah,
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it's it's gonna be good. It's a little bit about it. Yeah,
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did they see some sweaty Maybe I'm just nervous. It
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creates You're not sweaty, to be honest, a conversation, you know,
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we're just bull honking.
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Speaker 2: It kind of brings back the whole thing. And so
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I started doing this and watch. The fun thing is, though,
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I think one thing that's been missing from this podcast
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for a lot of years is the fact that, like
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when I listen back to the shows, sometimes they're funnier
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to me because I know what was happening, like the crossing,
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like the looks across the table, like the little subtle.
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Speaker 6: Because sometimes you know, weird stuff's happening that you can't
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hear on the microphone.
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Speaker 1: Run.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. So I like the fact of graph
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cameras now so that like some of that gets caught
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because there's a whole lot of like sometimes we've been
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interviewing people or we've been doing things and they say
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some ship yeah, sometimes we're like.
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Speaker 4: I just can't.
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Speaker 2: It gives a lot of facial expressions which make us
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in trouble with a lot of our guests.
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Speaker 1: To me where it's very polite, and all the millions
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of listeners we have are now going to be sitting
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down in the evening with a big bowl popcorn and
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TV just watching that.
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Speaker 6: Honestly, I can't imagine why anybody would want to hold
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this but one.
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Speaker 1: Of those movies. I'm going to get my popcorn ready,
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you know I say that.
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Speaker 6: But like I spend an inordinate amount of time when
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I do get to watch TV, which is very rare.
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But when I do sit down and watch TV, I
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watch YouTube and I watch people like work on boats.
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Like I literally have whole channels that I follow that
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are just people restore.
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Speaker 2: So if I could sit and watch somebody do literal
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fiberglass work and be like, oh yeah, he's laying that
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in there.
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Speaker 1: Somebody's going to watch this. I don't know who it's
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going to be. You remember that show This Old House
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Who Bob Lavilla or something, or even have a new
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version of the song.
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Speaker 6: Really, yeah, I still watch I can't watch that show though.
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They spend a whole episode installing a banner post, you know.
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And I'm like, that house is never getting done.
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Speaker 1: Today, We're going to do a door knob. Yeah, just
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one one door, So get your pup ford fourteen three
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or sixty seven of working on this house. Yeah, And
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I mean it's it's wild.
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Speaker 2: Like it just gets too much. Man, At some point,
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you gotta get some shit done.
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Speaker 4: This oldest fuck house.
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Speaker 1: Really rekind rework. Yeah.
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Speaker 6: By the time it gets done, whether they're like, okay,
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well if you remember the first thing to do was
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replaced that roof. Well it's been twenty two years since
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we did that.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to go back up there and replace
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the roof again. I think you're missing an opportunity this
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old boot.
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Speaker 2: No don't know they well they not so, I will
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say not as much in like the fishing boat.
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Speaker 6: World, but there are like I follow like four or
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five channels sailors like, I'm I'm not a blowboater. I
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don't know about sailing. I'm not a sailor. But the
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people like these young usually Apples, were young guys that
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are like in their twenties thirties, sell everything. They only
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buy an old, beat up asso, and then they like
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gut it, rebuilding, and then they just start sailing around
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the world. And there's a lot of channels that I
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follow and watch that are just that. And it's these guys,
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and I don't really give a shit about the sailing bar.
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Once they fix the boats and go sailing, I stopped watching.
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Speaker 1: Did you guys a blow boat? Oh yeah, the blow
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boat blow ba sounds like a porn the wind blows them.
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A sailboat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a blow boat.
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Speaker 4: Hey, watch you get us hop on my blue boat.
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Speaker 1: There's a guy that his name. I don't think they'd
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get on if he said that. We Uh, Sarah and
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I were walking by one day. It's just out youre
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tinkering in his garage. And of course anytime someone was
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tickering in the garage and I'm walking by, I'm I'm curious. Yeah,
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we got a buzz going. Uh, that's the AC Yeah,
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that's ay. Just welcome Acye. It's Samsung. So I noticed
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he was building a boat. He's he built sailboats, but
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he's he built those kind of dingy sides.
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Speaker 4: They have lap sides. Yeah, they're kind of dinghy size.
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Speaker 7: Uh.
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Speaker 1: His name is Brian. He's got three of his Boatsie
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was for an art so proud. Oh he Sarah did
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the whole like arm like okay because he started talking
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and five minutes in like I'm like, okay, I could
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easily be here for an hour. Oh yeah, I'm looking
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at Sarah and it's clear that we're fifty five minutes
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away from an hour and we're not going to wait
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an hour.
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Speaker 4: You should have been like, dude, stop showing my wife
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your BLOWBD.
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Speaker 6: I do regret, like after after seeing all those those
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videos of the channels do it like I do kind
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of regret, not like yeah, taking that time to record
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some of that stuff, like I mean, or even just
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document it better because I said.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it on a room. And when I
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do things and.
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Speaker 6: I just didn't, I would just jump and start working
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because and now I got to say, like Paul did
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all the work here, I have nothing to do with this,
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but there's so much anything you do on and whether
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you're working on something or you're doing on a podcast,
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it's twice as long. If you're going to film it,
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everything has to be set up, and if you're doing
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boat work, you got to like, hey, I'm going to
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do this thing, but I got to set the camera
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up and then halfway through, like, well let me move
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the camera for a different angle, and then let me
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get the lighting in here right so it extends it.
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And and honestly, I was working on mine while the
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baby was taking naps, and ship I'm like, I got
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an hour if I'm lucky. Let me just get in
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there and get as much done as I can. So
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I was terrible about even taking pictures a little on video,
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and but like go back and edit it and like
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it's a whole link. We take YouTube for granted. Yeah,
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how many times a week do you all look up somebody?
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Speaker 1: I always always yeah.
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Speaker 6: Like it's nothing is like there's very few things in
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this world that are not doable, like housework, whatever. I mean,
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there's some things I don't want to do because I'm like,
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you see it on YouTube and you're like that's more work.
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Speaker 1: Than I really want to. But I mean you can
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literally got me.
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Speaker 2: How much money it's on to YouTube and being like, oh,
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that's not that big of a deal.
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Speaker 1: To t clinch.
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Speaker 4: I had to change my wife's old car.
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Speaker 6: I changed her cruise control button, but it was like
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behind the steer was in the steering column, it was holding.
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Speaker 1: I was like, I got YouTube like ten.
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, there's like three holes pull the
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air I pulled the air bag out like literally.
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Speaker 1: Showed dude, that's high level of ship. It would have
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taken it.
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Speaker 2: Literally took me half an hour watching the YouTube and
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I put it back together. I was like, that would
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have been a lot more expensive for the Toyota.
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Speaker 1: You reinstall the F two one jigawatt, yeah that thing,
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yeah Flex Combassador, but like little ship like that.
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Speaker 6: It's like, you know, you could have went to the
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have a count of five hundred dollars in a mechanic
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because they would have charged ten hours in labor and
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you know whatever.
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Speaker 1: I mean nothing.
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Speaker 4: I hadn't be scared like messing around with that air bag.
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Speaker 1: Oh I didn't join never out of the road. I
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definitely definitely I took that like you had to take
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the thing out of there. We got to talk. It
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was like a little box, you.
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Speaker 6: Know, you take the thing out of there, and I
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definitely never got my face, so I.
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Speaker 1: Was like moving and I was like champion bottle. Yeah, exactly.
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So what was wrong with the group control? Like, as
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you know, you need to a button.
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Speaker 6: So I don't know if most toyotas are all the
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same the ones I've driven, all these older models. You
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just have like this, Yeah, this little stick that comes
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out of the column and it has a little spring
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loaded button. Click click in like a ballpoint pen like
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in is on and you click it again it comes out.
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Speaker 2: Well, I was driving. She blames it on me, like
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I did something. But I was driving and I went
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to put the crews on. I click click, and it
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just shot. The clicking button just shot across the car
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and that was it. So then you couldn't engage or
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disengage anymore. So that was what was wrong with it.
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Speaker 6: But I bought, like, I went on to eBay and
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found the part, you know, part number whatever, and you
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get the whole thing. And it was really just a
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plug and plug in, plug out part.
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Speaker 4: But you had to get to it really was easy.
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Speaker 6: It was, but it was behind the air bag on
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that steering column you had to remove all that was
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the scary part.
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Speaker 8: But YouTube baby, to YouTube baby, I mean I learned
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change the light bulb, not to you know, you switch album.
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Speaker 2: When I was doing the Boat project, I would watch
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like six guys do something on YouTube. Like I'd watch
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how like six guys wired something or did something, and
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then I would take the conglomerate of those six and
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be like, I like the way the guy did that,
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but I didn't like how he did this, and that
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guy did this better, and and then I would like, Okay,
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here's how I'm going to do it, and I would
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just like combaine, you know, not that I didn't know
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how to do the thing, but I'm like, somebody out
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there probably knows how to do this better than I do.
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Speaker 1: And then it maybe it made everything was always there's
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always guy. And if that guy's taking a cruise control
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guy huge actually speaking of it. I'm going to text Fred.
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We've got Fred Steiver's artists, yeah, to talk to him.
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I'm assuming all absolutely, man, I mean, he's kind of
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he's been pretty prevalent the last four or five years.
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I'd say architect is kind of his background, and he'll
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tals us more about it. But he's done the last
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two album covers for Zach Bryant our words. Okay, I'm
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curious to see kind of how if that is all,
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if that's a moved the needle of it all for
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for is our work as far as just people reaching
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out to him and what art. So so I'm.
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Speaker 4: Gonna text him, tell them.
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Speaker 1: That we're ten minutes out from Yeah, sure, bulls ten minutes,
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take a right, fifteen minutes. Let's just live in it.
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So that's what I'm gonna do right now. The sound
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of whiskey, that's not like a storm. Sound of the whiskey.
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Oh so you're just gonna go, You're you're raw dog.
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Speaker 4: What I'm doing is making sure it's not poison.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, somebody's got to be that.
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Speaker 1: I don't what you guys got hurt. I appreciate that.
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So I would imagine I got a bunch of topics.
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Let's see, let's let's do some more.
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Speaker 9: Well what you said the bullshit say topics for my
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thoughts and my topic thought topics. Yeah, okay, Doug asked
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me what this little earring is all about? Yeah, I
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don't want to know where he's So this brings up
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a question. I found this yesterday, okay.
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Speaker 1: And it's a topic that I don't know if y'all
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have ever been in this involved in this situation. But
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I opened up the top of my backpack where all
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my pins and pencils are, and that was in there.
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It's not a Sarah's I don't.
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Speaker 2: Know, and he's not gonna ask.
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Speaker 1: This is one way to do it if y'all ever
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been in this situation.
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Speaker 2: Well, finally, random women stuff in your thing.
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Speaker 1: Because I know I have no reason for that earring
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to be in my backpack. Yeah, so instead of talking
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to Sarah about it, you said, I'm just gonna go
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to Spotify subject. So this is probably more common than maybe.
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I mean, it probably is Sarah's. I mean, but what
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if she looks at you just know that's not mine.
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I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we know you need two timing out there.
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Speaker 1: My backpop doing a lot of places were socially then scattered.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so y'all ever been in this predicament?
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Speaker 2: Nope, No, I will say this.
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Speaker 6: You have a daughter's a little older than mine, but
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I have a two year old and I'm finding random
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ship everywhere, like stuffed in pockets that like so yes
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and no, not particularly that's exactly what.
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Speaker 1: This might not even be an ear ring. Well, it
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has a weird little Yeah, that's not an air ring.
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And what do you think it is? Rosary came. It's
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definitely an ear ring of some sort. I don't think. Look,
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there's no way that's going in someone's deer and span. Well,
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it probably attaches me and like this broke, this probably broke.
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Speaker 2: I'll probably have an actually yeah, so.
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Speaker 1: Anyway, now that my curiosity is getting better, man, I'm
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gonna have to ask Sarah.
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Speaker 2: It looks sarah ish like that was like something she
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would wear. I mean, it could be a key chain.
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Speaker 1: The worst part of it probably you bought this for
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me like five years Oh god, it did.
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Speaker 6: It looks a lot like uh, some jewelry bought from
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my wife. Uh, I don't know, some fly show somewhere,
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and it was these ladies were doing, uh they were
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putting cadduses in like uh, in fish tanks. But then
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instead the stones and the gravel that they would give
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them would be like turquoise and like pretty.
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Speaker 4: Decorative colored stones.
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Speaker 6: Girls and the Caddus would make their their casings out
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of these you know, not gems, but out of these stones.
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And then once they were done with them, the girls
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would harvest those casings and then fill them with like
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a POxy so they would stay solid, and then they'd
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make jewelry out of them. And so my wife has
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like a necklace and some earrings that are cattus.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like cattis, uh cattus. I don't know what larvae, well,
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the larva Cattish shacks.
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Speaker 1: Taddy want.
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Speaker 2: They're cind of shacks made out of ropes.
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Speaker 1: I mean that kind of looks like that. Like that's
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what reminds me of It could be a Christmas tree decoration.
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Maybe it should be. Now it should be. I think
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we should have a Christmas tree. You should take it out.
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I can this new Christmas operation I found. Oh you
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know what, I don't know what it is. So I
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pulled that out of my backpack yesterday. I go, huh,
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this could be a pro.
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Speaker 2: But it probably used like PIPERI yeah, I mean, dude,
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I find stuff that has no business all over the place,
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like and she's just so proud of herself when she
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shows stuff into random places.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it's an ear ring now, Doug,
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it's an ear ring.
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Speaker 1: It could be like a multi layered necklace, a bunch
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of these things.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you're not wrong. I mean you're probably wrong,
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but you could be right. Let's put that and you've
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been to Peru lately.
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Speaker 1: So later on though, I do want to we're gonna
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get We're gonna talk to Fred after we take a
19:04
break here, and I want to talk about the all
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the sacred films. Y'all watch that the YETI film Me.
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Speaker 6: And I, Me and the Glades guys that got a
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plan to to like do at screening over like, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Is some of that from Tarpain?
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Speaker 2: Well, then yeah, it's about the making of Then we'll
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package that for.
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Speaker 1: Next time because I'm actually gonna see Scott Wold.
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Speaker 4: And that guy was from France, right, uh le val?
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Speaker 1: Maybe his buddy was his buddy was a French filmmaker
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that helped him make the movie. I mean, tell y'all,
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and I read the Olympics, I was gonna paint myself
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blue and get a naked for you. Never really had
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a chance lay out on this table and watch them
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pain So what no, I know you're a gymnast and
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you are you're an next gymnast. That's not true at all. Doug,
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look at the camera and just tell everyone your your
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Paul Horse days horse. Paul has a problem. We're gonna
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talk about it later. It's making up really wild stories.
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So anyway, college recruit Missouri right, Uh No, I think
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I probably could have gotten a year. Maybe I were
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PENSTI God, I knew it was a black and gold school.
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Speaker 2: It seems like a really no gymnasts in this school,
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Like I feel like I was.
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Speaker 4: You know what is wild?
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Speaker 2: They do wrestling real big and wrestling gymnasts for I'm single.
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Speaker 1: When when you watch what they do now, I mean
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people didn't even think about doing this really that much.
20:45
Speaker 4: It's changed that much.
20:47
Speaker 1: It's it's based on strength, skill, everything everything or balls yeah,
20:53
ball fell Yeah.
20:55
Speaker 6: I was before I came out here today, I was
20:58
there was actually gymnastives.
21:00
Speaker 2: I had the TV on in the background, incredible Fold
21:02
Launder doing something.
21:03
Speaker 6: Kids run around tearing the house part, you know, and
21:06
they had the small valves and they're they were talking
21:07
about one of her scores from like the Palma Horse,
21:10
not the Palma Horse.
21:11
Speaker 4: But she didn't the vaults.
21:12
Speaker 1: The vault yeah, and she jumps off.
21:15
Speaker 2: And her score, yeah, her score was like astronomically higher
21:20
than everybody else in the field. And they're like, well,
21:22
the reason is that she's doing things.
21:23
Speaker 6: That nobody's ever ever thought and didn't think that they
21:28
and nobody can do it but her, and she's doing
21:31
weird shit.
21:32
Speaker 1: She's still doing that stuff at her age because she's
21:34
still the same type as she was when she was fifteen.
21:37
I think probably she keeps herself in an amazing shape
21:39
and she works that hard. Yeah, you know, I mean,
21:42
I don't know that there is such a difference in
21:45
ones gymnastics and minister gymnastics. But what I do know
21:50
is that she is on another planet you compare her
21:54
to other people. I was doing things that people never thought.
21:58
Speaker 6: I went to a nurse and conference one time, and
22:02
this is a big thing, and they had a guest
22:03
speaker and the guest.
22:04
Speaker 1: Speaker with some biles and this was like really just
22:09
had really just a funny just we hit that we're
22:11
talking about conference. It's amazing. Have you have you ever
22:15
seen the picture Hurt? She was there, She was what
22:21
I was getting at. I didn't realize how tiny, very
22:26
live just hit like a brit incredible. But yeah, I
22:31
was in fly fishing guys, fly fishing, it's all about
22:33
fly I was in Houston doing the nursing thing. I
22:36
went off camera off, I went and did a Uh.
22:41
Speaker 6: I went and did lunch with a bunch of fly
22:42
fishing guys at a taco stand if that makes it cooler,
22:45
But that's really I definitely was in the same room
22:47
as some biles once in my life, which was really Yeah,
22:50
and she's tiny, like I said, that was what shocked me,
22:52
was like how small of a person like this perfectly
22:56
normal sized human was like introducing her and they live
22:59
in small game on the like shrink.
23:00
Speaker 2: Everything like all the way down and like she kind
23:04
of made a joke about it. But she was a
23:05
very small person. But I mean, obviously incredible athlete, but
23:10
she totally flip out flip out.
23:14
Speaker 1: There it is she didn't know what to do. Uh
23:21
did you watch this?
23:22
Speaker 10: Yeah?
23:22
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay, it's amazing to watch. I mean, you're seeing
23:26
it from a different angle than we would. I don't know,
23:28
I like watching something you kind of know what they're doing,
23:31
absolutely know what they're doing. And that's what. I'm so
23:33
amazed by it because they're doing things that we usould
23:35
joke about, and we should joke about these things, like
23:40
what if I was what if I like everybody all
23:44
out laughing. Well now, I mean it's like every gay
23:46
and the Chinese team can do it. You know, it's amazing.
23:50
Yeare incredible. Do you ever think about Molle short So
23:57
was that as I think you're over find my skillet mill.
24:03
Just imagine watch Dog he's doing the future. It looks
24:08
it looks more like it.
24:11
Speaker 2: Looked more like Vince Vaughn and old school where he's
24:14
like he's on the r with a.
24:16
Speaker 1: Cigarette, still holding, still holding, like spits a cigarette. Made me.
24:26
Let me see that was Let me just want one
24:33
day to see podcast. My mom has videos. We now
24:42
have we now have video. I can get your mom's fuck.
24:48
I don't need you for it either bypass that I
24:52
know where she lives at least I know the town.
24:55
Speaker 6: Well, somebody out there is fishing right now, because I
24:58
saw somebody fishing your spot and the actually when I
25:01
was on my way over here, or not fishing it
25:03
but cruising by it, eyeballing it. Yeah, they say that's
25:06
the problem when you put pictures up with well established roadways.
25:10
Speaker 1: In the background, somebody's gonna come Snooper. What's funny is
25:13
like three days after that, I saw so much is
25:15
someone that I know that fish is there anyway.
25:17
Speaker 6: So but you know what's funny is like I've lived
25:20
in that area and cross that a million times. I
25:23
honestly haven't seen that many people pulling around on that
25:27
piece of grass until recently.
25:30
Speaker 4: Did you know this first? And I saw.
25:31
Speaker 2: You out there one day? It looked like a little
25:34
spear It was a tailor skiff. Could have been a
25:37
little speared. It could have been a little hell's bay.
25:38
It was seen from it was literal something.
25:44
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it was a small tailor tiller. It
25:46
could be a skimmer skiff or something like that.
25:49
Speaker 1: I've seen him fishing there before anyway. Yeah, but either
25:51
way he was. He was just cruising the shorelines, bolling it.
25:54
That said, Doug, Doug got spot that when sums down,
25:57
he kept following that fish. Yeah twice we've done that. Yeah,
26:00
I finished at that spotty when the there's it's.
26:05
Speaker 6: Automatic that I finished yesterday this last minute. Like my
26:12
buddy Luke had to have surgery today.
26:14
Speaker 1: On his hand.
26:15
Speaker 6: He's doing great, but a couple of months back, he
26:16
fell off the ladder, shattered his wrist, had to have
26:19
hardware put in it.
26:20
Speaker 4: Took a long time to rehab that. I mean, hit
26:21
his head, had.
26:22
Speaker 1: A whole lot of things on his second face.
26:25
Speaker 6: Then the yeah, there's hand Surgents are specifically hand guys.
26:30
Like there's people that do nothing but work on hands.
26:32
It's very complex piece of machinery. Sure, but anyway, so yeah,
26:35
the piece, yeah, a piece of hardware. So he had
26:39
a piece of hardware in his forearm and the tendon
26:42
that controls the big movements of your thumb was rubbing
26:46
on it and tore through the tendon on the hardware
26:50
that they put him for his wrists, and then he
26:51
couldn't use his thumb. Now they got to remove the
26:54
tendon out of his ring finger put it into his
26:56
thumb so you can use the stumping.
26:58
Speaker 1: All this hand stuff.
27:00
Speaker 6: Yesterday was his last day of like before that. So
27:02
we went out and I hit the Wando, hit some spots.
27:05
I was solo in my boat, him and Germans fishing
27:07
theirs and I never fished that boat solo. It actually
27:10
didn't it didn't pull that much different. I mean it
27:14
was really fine. It took me a minute.
27:16
Speaker 1: My sister.
27:16
Speaker 2: I saw probably ten fish, got shots at about four.
27:20
Speaker 1: Two of them got enough water. Oh yeah.
27:22
Speaker 6: Two of them were a little boat shot didn't get close.
27:24
And I got one with a nice fish and he
27:26
was cruising. I put it around on him. He turned
27:28
on it, charged up to it, and he had seen
27:31
that fly before since he got up on him, and
27:35
I was like, at least he played.
27:37
Speaker 2: And then the second one I was just too accurate.
27:40
Speaker 1: I mean, what are you gonna do? I put it
27:44
right in his fucking grill. I did not like it.
27:46
Speaker 2: Put a bucket up there on the polling platform with you. Yeah,
27:52
we'll come back. So we just we just started talking
27:56
about fishing.
27:56
Speaker 1: And now we gotta get what I said. We just
28:02
started talking about what's going on. I thought, that's all
28:06
what were talking about? Lost? It's get scared it for
28:13
and the mold still a lot of share. It sounds
28:17
like culture walt'st dougs lies. It does. I couldn't share.
28:28
You can't tell me otherwise? Take her down?
28:34
Speaker 11: Sold still, Brandon, what will you have?
28:50
Speaker 1: And now slow down the fire, slow down, snatter, do
29:02
you'll make get back my for snow.
29:05
Speaker 7: Don't lead me up because it's so hard.
29:15
Speaker 12: Speaker, live.
29:18
Speaker 10: More stead a lot.
29:24
Speaker 12: To speed a lot.
29:31
Speaker 7: Okay, Snow, Snow the fires man Snow's call you, old boy.
29:56
Speaker 4: How weird is that? It's got a text from Paul
29:57
Cottin's fan club thing. Uh, they're listening. That's weird. Ship,
30:02
they're listening.
30:03
Speaker 2: It's not weird, that's weird. Yeah, they're listening.
30:09
Speaker 1: They're just China. That's that's pretty bold. How are you Frederick? Hey, buddy, Well,
30:16
you're here with You're here with me, and you got
30:19
Doug and you got micd Hey buddy, hey, how are you?
30:23
Thanks for all the time. I know, uh, I know
30:27
we've we've kind of had a weird day to day,
30:29
so I appreciate you.
30:30
Speaker 4: Uh taking the time.
30:31
Speaker 1: Well, I was texting fred earlier about the when I
30:33
was texting you, guys, Hey, what's going on?
30:35
Speaker 5: Man?
30:36
Speaker 1: Tune in Tokyo. Let me know. He's like I met
30:38
the emergency that clinic with three dogs and two kids,
30:44
Like all right, well see you later. Well, good talk. Yeah.
30:49
Speaker 5: I tell you what when you try to poison the
30:51
moles out of your backyard and you got three setters.
30:53
It really like to dig inuf. I tried to tried
30:58
to go the organic crowd, which I've to be like,
31:01
not only ineffective, but also more a lot of trouble. Yeah,
31:07
so things got spicy in our house earlier.
31:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it sounds like you survived.
31:13
Speaker 5: At least we're still rolling through the bird Dog gas.
31:19
Speaker 2: But you know, and effective, you know, ineffective and a
31:24
whole lot of work that sounds like the show actually.
31:27
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, well, hey buddy, uh, you know,
31:33
Doug and Mike are familiar with your artwork and everything
31:36
you do, and I'm staring at some of it right now.
31:39
It's really it's amazing, man, it gets better every time
31:43
I see it. Yeah, well, I appreciate that we've got
31:46
a little feed if you when you watch the YouTube
31:49
version of this, it's kind of I mean, just kind
31:51
of shuffling through a bunch of your pieces on Instagram.
31:55
So you know, we'll take it back. I want to say,
31:58
like four or five years ago, we had a phone call.
32:00
You called me, and uh, and I don't remember exactly,
32:05
I remember knowing about you and your work at the time,
32:08
and you were trying to kind of figure out some
32:10
strategies to have people more people see your work. And
32:15
I feel like after that phone call, like six months later,
32:19
everyone pretty much knew about your work, like it happened
32:21
so fast, and I feel, yes, and you know, and
32:27
I don't even remember what your plans were, whatever it was,
32:31
but I remember, I want to say, Uh, one of
32:35
the first times I kind of saw it on a
32:37
on a larger level was when one of the Huff
32:41
Huff brothers or I think Dustin might have, you know,
32:44
posted one of your drawings that you sent him. And
32:47
the next thing I knew that, you know, a lot
32:49
of your stuff was in the Tarpin world and guides
32:52
and that sort of thing. Can you just kind of
32:53
talk about kind of what you did five years ago
32:56
to kind of get that thing going?
32:59
Speaker 5: Your intro makes it sound like maniacal, like I.
33:03
Speaker 1: Well, we all have we all have anything.
33:05
Speaker 5: I've been, I've been the trailer hitt of the operation.
33:08
Speaker 1: No, no, we all have we all have a plan.
33:11
We know what you're up man, And you're right, that
33:16
kind of didn't come off like that, But that's not
33:17
at all what I mean.
33:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, if you want to throw air
33:23
quotes on career like what my career to this point
33:27
has been built off the bones of some extreme generosity
33:31
some people that I really admire yourself included and Dustin
33:36
and Chad and a slew of people, Michael Garrin and god,
33:43
if you just got I got going just listing names,
33:47
I'd forget them all.
33:48
Speaker 1: But buddy, that's the fruit of a good life. Well, yeah,
33:52
and your work speak for yourself too, for it. It's
33:54
not like people aren't going to share and help out
33:56
someone that has shitty art. Your stuff is awesome to
33:59
breathe and it has a life of its own. It
34:02
really touches people, so you know.
34:04
Speaker 5: You know, I think a lot of people get into
34:06
it trying to make an asset and I'm just trying
34:09
to make a maig friend. You're doing a job, trying
34:14
my damn just to get invited back. You know. That's
34:17
the I find that's the hardest thing to do when
34:19
you're shooting fish like I do.
34:21
Speaker 1: Just like I love it.
34:23
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's it's awesome, man.
34:25
Speaker 1: What what what are some of the the the highlights
34:29
you would say in the last five years that your
34:31
art has let you see, Like, what, what's of some
34:35
cool stuff that you've where is it led you?
34:39
Speaker 5: Oh man? You know, one of one of the best
34:42
things that came out of my art work happened through
34:44
Cuvy Rise magazine. I got an intro to a guy
34:49
that you know, had been a kind of a hero
34:53
of mine, Ben Williams, and uh, I got a chance
34:58
to illustrate a car one for him, and I did
35:02
a good enough job painting him that he reached out
35:05
to me through their editor and said he'd like to
35:08
buy the piece. And you know, been your ninety one
35:13
money is not really a commodity you should be dealing,
35:15
and why don't you give me some of your time?
35:19
And he agreed to let me come out for a
35:22
weekend and I brought Lindley out And yeah, I say
35:27
that that was one of the best experiences, not only
35:30
because they got to Ben, but because my wife has
35:34
like a granddad crush on him. So any firearm that
35:38
Ben Williams blesses, like he sends through the text message machine,
35:43
I got to buy, right. I don't really even have
35:46
to ask plainly anymore. So that's probably one of my
35:50
favorite ones. Just getting you know, it's allowed me to
35:53
just be a fly on the wall of some people
35:55
that I think are really good, genuine human beings doing
35:58
good work.
35:58
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I think actually you came to Roll American
36:02
about a year ago. I think you met Doug. Yeah, yeah,
36:05
well that was about a year ago. I think you
36:07
were here. Maybe it was May or June.
36:09
Speaker 5: If you guys are on the way to a show,
36:11
weren't you?
36:11
Speaker 4: I think so sort of concert.
36:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't sound typical for you guys.
36:17
Speaker 1: Know it's weird.
36:18
Speaker 5: I'm sure music. I think it was a birthday party.
36:22
Speaker 1: I think you're right. It was Martin's King Maybe maybe.
36:27
Speaker 5: I think it was Pink.
36:28
Speaker 4: Oh, sure, it was the Backstreet Boy.
36:31
Speaker 5: Blue Man group, something like that.
36:33
Speaker 1: We want to make Mike and Pink Pink. He set
36:35
up with us up with like four free tickets made.
36:37
Speaker 2: Hey ladies, got ops man, She's she's amazing little so
36:46
actually wins bigger.
36:47
Speaker 1: I got a picture right now on the screen now
36:49
of the piece you did for a garden and gun.
36:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, the wood duck. But no, that was it the
36:54
wood duck piece.
36:57
Speaker 1: That's a wood dog. Yeah, yeah wood.
37:00
Speaker 4: I'm making sure.
37:03
Speaker 5: Marshall or tremendous folks and so much fun to work with. Yeah,
37:08
I mean I didn't even realize I had a leishawn
37:10
when I worked with him, you know what I mean.
37:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when was the first moment that
37:16
you drew on something other than a nine x twelve
37:19
piece of paper or eleven by fourteen piece of spiral
37:23
sketchbook and you were like, oh, oh, this is.
37:26
Speaker 4: Cool, I can do this.
37:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is something different in meat and it totally
37:29
shocked you and you're like, okay, I'm going forward with this.
37:33
Not a napkin doesn't count.
37:35
Speaker 5: Well. No, I remember getting grounded when I was a
37:38
kid and my dad making me sit in the garage
37:41
with him while he did something on his truck. Yeah,
37:43
and drawing on a sheet of plywood. And I still
37:49
have that chunk of wood. I'll send you a picture
37:51
of it Later's cool. It was actually a pretty legit horse.
37:54
I'm not going to lie, you know, if you don't know,
37:57
if somebody didn't the label it horse, I think it
37:59
was like an amiba. But yeah, so label ambe horse.
38:07
Yeah yeah, so hey, single single cell pony.
38:12
Speaker 1: One of the things I love about your work is
38:14
the movement you can see in the stuff that you
38:17
you draw and you paint. And I'm curious, what's been
38:22
the toughest thing that you've ever tackled, like animal wise?
38:28
Birds really yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
38:31
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean fish fisher. I'm not going to say
38:35
they're easy, because they're hard too, but like, yeah, man,
38:39
if you stop and paint every feather on a bird,
38:42
you miss the kind of explosion that is.
38:45
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, no, that makes sense.
38:48
Speaker 5: I mean how many people have had a rooster, you know,
38:53
like a good sized pheasant pop up out of a ditch.
38:55
It looks like it is falling on you. Yeah, and
38:58
then it gets its ship or eyes and takes off
39:01
before you actually gather yourself and take a shot, like
39:06
to get to get yourself together enough. I mean, nobody
39:09
actually sees every feather on the bird, but you have
39:13
this moment when you're painting or drawing them where you
39:16
feel like responsible for every damn feather. Man.
39:19
Speaker 1: I can still remember being eight years old. Ver some
39:22
ever walked upon a covey of quail and I mean it.
39:28
Speaker 6: And speaking to like the kind of complexity like of birds,
39:32
I get, they're they're very subtle. Prime example, our friend Germs,
39:37
a phenomenal photographer, and we were down the keys and
39:40
he took a picture of a cormorant.
39:41
Speaker 2: Right now, cormorant's big, greasy. You know, we take nasty.
39:45
Speaker 6: Chickens right like, they're just not we do. They're not
39:48
pretty birds. They're just by, you know, at a glance.
39:51
But he took this picture of this cormorate sitting on
39:52
a limb with this really high like long range focused lens,
39:57
and uh, he's like, look at this picture's cormoran was
39:59
like a cool you know, nasty grease chicken.
40:01
Speaker 2: Great, you know, and he's like zoom in, like I
40:05
zoomed in, like you keep going in and in and
40:07
in and in because this lens was basically the Hubble
40:09
telescope basically, but like, particularly.
40:12
Speaker 6: Around the eyes, I've never noticed they have like these
40:15
very detailed like blues and purples and like their iris
40:19
like everything.
40:19
Speaker 1: I was like, holy show, that's a beautiful animal.
40:21
Speaker 6: And like I've just seen color kid, right, yeah, it's
40:26
wild and I got to never paid attention because it's
40:28
all you can see at a glimpse of a grease chicken.
40:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I remember the first time I looked
40:34
closely at a wood store. You know, see woods so
40:38
ugly when you look close and you're like, man, that's amazing.
40:42
Speaker 6: I can't imagine trying to capture that, to try to
40:44
capture like you're saying, you can't paint every feather, So
40:47
I mean, I guess it's it's a decision from an artist.
40:49
I guess you got to decide which feathers you want
40:51
to paint, right, That's when.
40:52
Speaker 5: That's exactly it. You look at Paul's work too, and
40:57
I mean he's doing some editing right because I mean
41:00
it's hard. Though I'm a bit of a chicken ship.
41:03
I do everything in pencil. He's he's going after things
41:07
with ink. I mean that takes some clarity, you know.
41:10
Speaker 1: I'm looking at one right now, Andy Mill, and it's
41:13
just I mean, there's there's you know, if you've ever
41:16
been in this environment and that I think that's what's
41:19
special about the art that you and Paul do is
41:22
it appeals so much to people who've been in that environment.
41:27
And there's always there's always motion. Yeah, you can see
41:30
I'm macn almost. I feel like I can see smoke
41:32
coming out of that cigar. That's also what frustrates me
41:36
some something about my work is that when you're in
41:39
these moments like that, that that tarp and jumping. You
41:41
have to relay that motion. Yeah, and it's hard to Yeah. Well,
41:46
like I don't want to be a realist or you know.
41:49
That's why I loves Fred Fred's work, because it's it's breathing,
41:52
it's moving. Yeah, it is, it really is. It's it's beautiful.
41:56
Speaker 5: Paul, when you're when you're fishing, I don't know you
41:59
if you ever get this way, but I feel like,
42:03
you know, I feel like I need to get out
42:04
there and do it so that I can tell the
42:06
inside story. I can. I can hide the details, you know,
42:12
and leave like a bread crumb trail for people that
42:16
really know which ends up. But at the same the
42:20
same time, I'm kind of you go, you're at the
42:25
point end of the boat, but your brain is split
42:27
in half. You're trying to be a competent angler r
42:31
and not wear shots, but at the same time, you're
42:34
just trying to document everything you find beautiful in the world.
42:37
Speaker 1: You're up there. You don't want to forget it. You're
42:39
so desperate not not to forget. I think that's why
42:42
I can. I think that's why I don't consider myself
42:45
a really guitarking fisherman because I'm not. I think you're
42:48
pretty good, Doug. I know you're going to I'm a
42:53
I'm a good catstre I'm confident with that. Then don't
42:57
have the killer instinct that it takes to be like,
43:00
let's just say a term and angler. I would never
43:02
be that because I find myself smelling the roses way
43:07
too much. Yeah, I'm enjoying all the things that happened.
43:12
If I got that fish to eat the fly and
43:13
I missed him, I don't care like I don't like.
43:16
I got a text. You know, we're going to talk
43:18
about my caramel trip here in a little bit. But
43:22
I got a text from a buddy of mine. I
43:23
told him, yeah, man, we fed eight, we jumped six,
43:27
but we didn't get into the boat news. Oh that's
43:30
you know, you said a derogatory word to me.
43:32
Speaker 4: But that's amazing, amazing.
43:34
Speaker 2: I did worse than a week in the key.
43:38
Speaker 1: Fun our other buddies the fishing. Yea double and triple
43:44
everything I just said. And they got twelve to the boat.
43:46
But they also paid David Magnum for a week.
43:50
Speaker 4: And did they did? They process it.
43:52
Speaker 1: The way you did? But spelling the roses is the
43:56
part that turned into art exact, you know, like that's
43:58
what me.
43:59
Speaker 6: So no body's going to ask me to paint or
44:01
draw anything from my time on the water, but exactly.
44:06
Speaker 1: But I still, to some.
44:08
Speaker 6: Extent, I find myself and maybe in the opposite direction.
44:12
I've always been in the other camp, Like I've always
44:14
been super driven to be really good and to be
44:17
really successful at everything I did on the water. And
44:21
as I've gotten older, I'm from the other side. Like
44:24
I find myself getting frustrated or whatever, and then I
44:28
have to pull myself out of that and say, you know,
44:30
in my head, I say, Mike, just look around you
44:33
right now, like I take a look at like and
44:35
I've gotten better at that. As I've gotten older, I've
44:37
gotten better at it. Like I don't want to say
44:39
like the cliche, you know, I'm just good to be
44:41
out here, you know, but it kind of is those lines.
44:45
Speaker 2: You know, I still care, I still get angry, I
44:47
still get frustrated.
44:48
Speaker 6: I saw the little tempertandent sometimes and you know, but
44:51
I'm I do find myself sometimes like trying to find
44:54
a sweet balance to where I can still try to
44:58
do my job up there on the point end, and
45:01
take the time to appreciate that I have the privilege
45:03
and the luck and life to be standing on the
45:07
point of Yet Sure, I mean, and I.
45:10
Speaker 1: Think one of the things I love so much about
45:12
this kind of art is I have immense gratitude for
45:17
the for the work that you guys do when you
45:18
use because as you get older and you start putting
45:22
a lot of these trips under your belt, you long
45:26
for the memories so much, and you want to think
45:29
back on these times and you want to you want
45:31
to feel like real visceral about it. And sometimes when
45:35
you look at someone's art like this, it brings back
45:38
memories of your own stuff, of your own trips, and
45:42
it really tell you what.
45:43
Speaker 5: Sure, my first my first parting I got, I mean,
45:51
I was so blessed. I didn't even know the magnitude
45:55
of getting the fish with Tustin, but I remember, Yeah,
45:57
I came back with a line burn.
45:59
Speaker 1: Just a like good and I mean.
46:06
Speaker 5: That's a rite of passage, man, Yeah, I mean, a good,
46:09
deep one. And about a week after I've been back,
46:12
I'm sitting on the couch with my wife and she's like,
46:15
what are you doing. I was like, I'm picking the
46:18
scab off of this blind bird. She's like why. I
46:20
was like, because I want to a bitch good scar.
46:24
Speaker 1: You wanted to be there, you know, I never want
46:28
to forget that.
46:32
Speaker 5: In my artwork, right, this kind of this kind of
46:35
ever visible scar tissue that lets you know that you
46:38
were there.
46:39
Speaker 6: I used to have a really good scar on the
46:41
back of my right and knuckles and it was from
46:44
a big albie in the Outer Banks and I got
46:46
my hand caught in the handle I want to paying attention,
46:49
and one of my fingers got sucked into the spool
46:51
while he was doing his thing, and just and it
46:55
took all.
46:55
Speaker 2: The skin off, about three knuckles. I had a good
46:57
little scar for a while.
46:58
Speaker 1: That was one of those that I like.
47:00
Speaker 2: I looked at him like, oh yeah, that's good ship.
47:05
Speaker 1: It's what's that that Mangum film one and twenty days. Yeah, yeah,
47:10
when he goes, he said, sometimes when you hold the
47:12
fish and beats up your hand. But it's like, man,
47:15
it feels good sometimes, yeah, beat you up.
47:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, they deserve it as you want.
47:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair.
47:21
Speaker 5: My kids were talking about this last night with the
47:25
uh is it the guy that lost one of his fingers?
47:28
Speaker 1: Uh?
47:29
Speaker 5: Because he made it in the Olympics. They had to
47:31
ampict his fingers.
47:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I heard about that.
47:34
Speaker 5: Tell me that isn't going to be like the story
47:36
that gets you a free beer for the rest of
47:37
your life.
47:38
Speaker 1: I love you, you know what I mean. That's yeah,
47:42
that's great. I don't know the story. You'll have to
47:43
tell me later.
47:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, so, Fred, that's not all I know.
47:49
Speaker 1: So I'm going to see you in September for the
47:51
one fly And yes, sir, you got any other Oh
47:55
by the way, we got Rangers and Cardinals starting hear
47:58
in a little bit game too. Was I was gonna ask, like,
48:02
where is bread I blew for?
48:04
Speaker 2: I had lunch from Saint Louis one time.
48:06
Speaker 1: That was about Saint Louis time.
48:09
Speaker 2: I was driving west, quick stop quick I saw the
48:12
arch had lunch at a No, it was a food truck.
48:15
We we ended up we powered through that day and
48:17
we'd up in Kansas City for the night. But we
48:19
were blowing through Saint Louis.
48:21
Speaker 4: Man, you can take a wrong turn.
48:24
Speaker 2: I was right down down, I don't know.
48:26
Speaker 13: It looked sure how to get back on? Hey, guys,
48:33
you know, like myself in a lot of those situations, life.
48:36
Speaker 2: And I found out that basically, if you just act
48:38
like you belong, like like nothing bothers you, it creeps
48:42
them out more.
48:42
Speaker 1: Than they're like.
48:43
Speaker 2: Then you fear them. They're like something right with this guy?
48:46
Like he should not be that calm walking. Yeah, they
48:51
they don't bother you. It's worked for me so far.
48:55
Speaker 5: So I lived over in Helsinki for a little while
48:58
and I remember going through the train station there once
49:01
and they there was a guy in a three piece
49:04
suit that leaned over and picked up a homeless guy's
49:08
beer and took a huge swig.
49:15
Speaker 1: The right way. It's like, low is loking, dude. Nobody ever.
49:22
Speaker 5: I can't remember who had this quote, but it was
49:24
the highest order of low life is the most position
49:28
in nature. Yeah, And I was like, I've been trying
49:32
to live that.
49:33
Speaker 1: That's great.
49:34
Speaker 2: It's amazing what a little undue confidence will do for you.
49:39
Speaker 1: You got any other adventures you got either before Jackson
49:43
or after?
49:43
Speaker 5: Oh let's see. So, uh family and I are headed
49:48
up to Washington State. Uh try to catch some some
49:52
salmon this next week, taking off taken off Sunday, be up,
49:57
be up there for a week and then uh come
50:00
back that'd be the into August, and uh, I've got
50:06
a week of September to get my head straight. Then uh,
50:11
all of my bird dogs disappear this Sunday. They all
50:14
got to Nebraska with Andy and Zach Ernie for a month,
50:19
and then they're gonna run around get a nose full
50:22
of sharp tail. And then uh, a week after I'm
50:26
out there fishing with you, Paul, we're gonna load him
50:30
back up and drive out my buddy Kyle Wagner. Uh,
50:35
we're gonna get all the dogs together. He's got my dog,
50:39
Pete's mom and uh and dad both. So we're going
50:43
to run the whole family around and try to find
50:46
some sharp tails and maybe some some grouse out in
50:51
his neck of the woods kind of central Wyoming.
50:53
Speaker 1: So well, yeah, I got one more question and how
50:59
we won't get into how it happened, But what has
51:03
doing the last cover, the last couple of album covers
51:06
for Zach Brian kind of does that been? Is that
51:11
move the needle for your artwork? Like? Have you gotten what?
51:15
Speaker 3: Like?
51:15
Speaker 1: What was it?
51:16
Speaker 5: It's made me a lot more popular with my children,
51:20
our baby sitters.
51:22
Speaker 2: How old are your kids?
51:23
Speaker 5: Son's hockey coach I've got a son that's eight and
51:27
a daughter that's six, and that's.
51:32
Speaker 1: So they're they're aware of kind of the coolness of that.
51:36
Speaker 4: Dad's pretty cool.
51:38
Speaker 14: Yeah.
51:39
Speaker 5: The funny thing though, is like, you know, the other day,
51:42
we're listening to the album and there's an F bombs
51:47
that gets dropped and I looked back in the rearview
51:50
mirror and I said, hey, James, you know that's not
51:52
a word that you get to handle yet, right. It's
51:55
kind of like a handle, like a pistol, kind of
51:58
like a pistol. You know, you know it exist, but
52:00
you don't get to handle it yet. And he said, yeah, Dad,
52:04
but I think I think he just learned it.
52:06
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you mean.
52:08
Speaker 5: He's like, you know, me, when I learned a new word,
52:11
I use it a lot. I was like, that's a
52:15
profound thing.
52:15
Speaker 2: For that is profound, he'd be real disappointed to meet
52:20
me because I've just learned a lot of words that
52:23
I used to just.
52:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have I use that thing.
52:30
Speaker 4: Wait too much. Did you have a good time in
52:32
New Orleans last week?
52:34
Speaker 11: Oh?
52:34
Speaker 1: Man?
52:35
Speaker 5: It was pretty cool.
52:37
Speaker 1: Cool.
52:38
Speaker 5: It was one of those things that God in the
52:41
eleventh hour, you think it's not going to happen. It's
52:44
not going to all kind of come together. You know
52:47
a lot of emails and texts and stuff like that.
52:50
You don't realize. Just to move a box of T
52:54
shirts from one side of the Super Dumb to the others,
52:57
it takes a long time and there's a lot of
53:00
heavy lifting that I mean, to see that stage go together,
53:05
I mean, it is pretty inspiring.
53:07
Speaker 1: Were you there just pretty much all day kind of
53:09
watching some of that stuff kind of behind the scenes.
53:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, And actually I got a chance to meet a guy,
53:16
Klay Gibson, who collaborated on some artwork with for the
53:23
The Pink Sky's EP and finally got to meet him
53:28
in person. And this guy, I mean, you want to
53:31
talk about talented, but I mean just as nice a
53:35
human being as you're going to come across. Took a
53:38
bunch of time out of his day and walked around
53:40
with me, got to ride Razor scooters around.
53:43
Speaker 2: Don't you kind of don't you kind of hate that though,
53:45
Like when you meet somebody that's like wait, like in anything,
53:49
not just dart, but like I want to have people
53:50
that are better at something than me that I look
53:53
up to and I meet and they're also like a
53:56
great a plus one awesome person and with a with
54:00
a very like great like very kind and generous, and
54:03
you're like, you're like, fuck you like come on, give
54:08
me something like yeah, but like I want them to
54:16
be human somewhere. You know, you're already better than them.
54:19
Speaker 1: I really like you a lot.
54:22
Speaker 2: You gotta have a cheat, So yeah, all right, that's
54:25
I'm terrible.
54:26
Speaker 5: You meet people that you have to dig around to
54:28
find their yeah, right, or they just wear them right
54:31
on their forehead, you know, and one or the other.
54:36
Speaker 4: Well, it's more Colin b.
54:38
Speaker 1: It's been fund seeing all the stuff you've been doing
54:41
the last flast six years.
54:42
Speaker 5: Many same man. I still can't wait to get together
54:46
and do some fashion with you.
54:47
Speaker 1: Buddy. Well we're doing it. Let's go. Let's go attack
54:50
attack mode in about a month and a half. Yeah,
54:54
we gotta. Scotty is gonna let us say again.
54:57
Speaker 5: I was talking to uh, you know, Simon Chew. He's
55:04
a he's a Spring Creek guide up in the Bozeman area,
55:08
just a real fine human being, and he was telling
55:10
me about the guy that he knows up near up
55:13
your butt, and uh, he talked about clipping the hooks
55:18
off of his flies. And I started doing that this
55:23
last year, and I tell you what, I've been having
55:25
a lot of fun at this, Paul. You got to
55:27
give this a try, just to get to eat and
55:29
then yeah, I just could get to eat because you
55:32
can make them eat like four or five times.
55:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I can see that. So if they don't
55:38
get hooked, you can actually yeah, because at the end
55:40
of the day, you're going to like, I gotta take
55:41
this fucking fish off. Then, I mean, Fred, what am
55:44
I going to put it on Instagram? Yeah?
55:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, I am I going to put on the ground.
55:50
I'll tell you what. You know, even like a sixteen
55:55
eighteen inch fish, it doesn't look like much you put
55:58
it in the net. You've got to get it. You've
56:00
got to get the fish islands out to really make
56:02
that thing look heroic.
56:03
Speaker 1: But no, I can really see how that's that's fun,
56:06
especially with drys instead of get them to sip on Tooboddy.
56:09
Speaker 5: It is so satisfying.
56:10
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta lose, you gotta lose your elbows
56:13
to make a trout look real good.
56:14
Speaker 1: I'm for sure.
56:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of those tiny hands, Yeah, tiny hands, elbows
56:20
poor guy.
56:21
Speaker 1: Well keep the hook on here during the one fly,
56:23
so maybe we'll actually maybe we'll actually get about thirtieth place.
56:29
Speaker 5: Do you know, uh, do you know what fly you're
56:31
using yet?
56:32
Speaker 1: A streamer?
56:33
Speaker 4: Streamer, streamer, a white clouds er, black black clouds.
56:38
Speaker 1: Sure, I finally use a dry fly on one day.
56:40
I'm actually glad I did. But yeah, streamer, I'm a
56:44
streamer guy. That's awesome. Hey, buddy, well, good luck with it.
56:47
Speaker 5: Anybody ever fished in near nothing?
56:49
Speaker 7: That?
56:50
Speaker 1: Uh, that's a good question. I mean, it seems totally reasonable.
56:54
What I usually fish is a smaller version of Dougs
56:59
Tarpin's a cool thing. It's like a little tark and fly.
57:02
But it looks kind of like an near enough. Actually
57:05
I fished the tan version of it. It looks similar.
57:08
What's that stream where I was using on the Missouri
57:11
Home Invader. That's what I'm thinking about the name everybody
57:15
used that things near enough? I like near enoughs. Maybe, yeah, buddy,
57:21
one day, give it a try. One day.
57:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe maybe we have like a little session with
57:28
Sanchez and see if we can get him to tie
57:30
something up that's you know, regionally appropriate.
57:32
Speaker 1: There you go, He's the he's the man that maybe
57:37
maybe I should take a Mike Benson fly for the
57:40
one fly you know you can.
57:41
Speaker 6: I can tell you a little lanky mudment. I make
57:44
it a little more taily than normal. I've caught big
57:46
brown trout on.
57:48
Speaker 1: On the let's work together. I can give you. Give
57:50
me one fly for one day, all right, I'll give you.
57:54
Speaker 2: I'm gonna modify the mud minute. Make friend modify the
57:57
mud minute to make it. Yeah, I'll make I never
57:59
tied one anything. That's rule number one.
58:01
Speaker 5: I don't know.
58:01
Speaker 1: I'm how artists, y'all.
58:03
Speaker 5: Y'all, I never time let him after sandwich.
58:10
Speaker 1: I'll get get a.
58:14
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm gonna it's gonna be like one of
58:16
my patterns modified to be a little trouty here. Yeah,
58:20
I'm not saying it'll work. I'm telling you I've caught
58:23
I've caught big browns on it on.
58:25
Speaker 1: The East coast. If it's moving and it looks good,
58:28
no matter what.
58:29
Speaker 2: Brown trouts are even dumber than brown trout. So if
58:32
you'll get a brown.
58:33
Speaker 5: But they say colors are for customers.
58:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, by the fish you're selling them on the
58:40
brown and gold. That's that's my colors for everything.
58:42
Speaker 6: If you give me to color, like if if I
58:44
gotta have one color to fish around the world everywhere
58:46
I've been Tan and gold. I'll catch anything on Tannall
58:51
fish tarp and I don't know ship all ready.
58:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go that one. That's an a good route.
59:00
I'm sick of my tank gold. We don't have the time,
59:03
right just partecd.
59:05
Speaker 5: You want me to bring you anything from Middle Earth?
59:07
Speaker 4: Possibly, I'll get you on that.
59:10
Speaker 5: Yeah. Put in a brisket order and I can actually.
59:14
Speaker 4: You a texture ranger hat.
59:15
Speaker 1: You can wear it around town.
59:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, do not take it.
59:22
Speaker 1: Do not bring me a San Louis Cardinals.
59:26
Speaker 5: Bring me over on Washington Jersey. I can wear it
59:29
to all the home games.
59:31
Speaker 1: I love that.
59:31
Speaker 5: Nothing assures that Cardinal victory quite like a Ron Washington
59:35
jersey in the stadium.
59:37
Speaker 1: With a little little bogoger sugar on the side. Thanks you,
59:43
thanks for the time. Good to talk. Thank you man,
59:45
nice Like.
59:53
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
59:54
Speaker 2: Look, all my cameras are out, you turn well, they
59:57
probably got like a sleep function.
59:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, they might be. We got one camera batteries. Which
1:00:04
camera is that it's camera that's the one that was
1:00:06
out earlier came one. Yeah, there it is. That's all right.
1:00:11
Speaker 2: Well we got to see all friends are work should yeah,
1:00:14
I think so. Yeah, I'm good with it. That was
1:00:16
a good interview. We're not we're not usually good at
1:00:19
this textual, Paul Coffin, Just let it be.
1:00:24
Speaker 1: It's just weird. It's a I, it's it's algorithms, it's
1:00:27
it's the n s A. You can blame me there
1:00:32
you this there is the sounds meaning it's glad we
1:00:56
took a break. Just pizza to the show. One thing
1:01:03
about Charleston from no shortage of good restaurants and stuff,
1:01:09
but over the last like.
1:01:10
Speaker 2: Ten years, food trucks, a lot of great food trucks
1:01:14
and tons we had tons of breweries and stuff, so
1:01:17
they're always around. So this guy's a pizza shop set
1:01:21
up over across the way here at the bar.
1:01:25
Speaker 1: Not bad, not bad, it's pretty good. So the refinery
1:01:28
behind this is a music venue. It's got a couple
1:01:31
of bars back here. Unbelievable spot to see. So if
1:01:35
you're in Charleston, you know you're going to be here.
1:01:37
Look up the music calendars to refine. I think the
1:01:40
owner is going to swing by him, so it actually
1:01:43
cool to have talked about it would be how this
1:01:46
all happened.
1:01:47
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Yeah, it's an amazing spot C show.
1:01:52
Speaker 1: It really is.
1:01:53
Speaker 2: I've been wanting to get over here to see when
1:01:55
I'm haven't yet, but well, this Thursday, I'm gonna come here.
1:02:00
Foster Wrestling is playing yep and and the art they're
1:02:04
the main ad. Yeh, Foster Wrestling.
1:02:07
Speaker 1: Could be the main act to kind of yeah, and
1:02:10
we're gonna I'm gonna come here and work Thursday, aka
1:02:14
go watch the show from the balcony MIC. So if
1:02:17
you want to Thursday night, I'm gonna come over here
1:02:19
and give you emotional support while you're working. No, I'm
1:02:22
just to draw you first though. Oh that's right, that's right,
1:02:25
that's right. I love it. The A S M R
1:02:34
and I want you What does that stand for him?
1:02:37
Speaker 4: I don't know, but honestly the French whispered and.
1:02:44
Speaker 2: They creak me out the fly top one.
1:02:46
Speaker 15: Now, I like it.
1:02:48
Speaker 1: I love it. Maybe I'm just weird crazy And so
1:02:54
did you see something culture? The fly to their react
1:02:57
their reading. God, I can't do it either.
1:03:00
Speaker 4: So uh, Southern culture did a a mod You're crazy?
1:03:07
Speaker 1: A mod on her the wait, what does a s
1:03:13
m R. I just asked that. God damn it, I
1:03:16
got this Google Adult Sleep man Music Recording, Adult Sleep
1:03:24
Music Recording. And see, you can't just look at something.
1:03:28
It's gotta be like this long drawn by audio sensory. Yes,
1:03:32
audio sensory.
1:03:34
Speaker 4: Mem did you come up with some trivia?
1:03:38
Speaker 5: No?
1:03:38
Speaker 1: I never did, but we can. We can look up
1:03:41
trigger on that. Yeah. Okay, so.
1:03:46
Speaker 4: The one that is out there, I forget what it's
1:03:49
called on this turn?
1:03:51
Speaker 5: Did you?
1:03:52
Speaker 11: Are you?
1:03:53
Speaker 1: Or I couldn't get it? Man, it's all messed up.
1:04:00
You can blame curs. That's ridiculously. Come on, that ain't
1:04:05
gonna work.
1:04:06
Speaker 4: You need something with spirit?
1:04:08
Speaker 1: What you need?
1:04:11
Speaker 4: Want you blow over?
1:04:13
Speaker 1: Tap?
1:04:15
Speaker 13: All right?
1:04:15
Speaker 4: All right, look look I might have pulled this off
1:04:20
the fucking Scaliger beer.
1:04:26
Speaker 1: It really will this be? Really that? I really can't
1:04:30
have cord you o paul A beer. The mountains are blue,
1:04:37
that will be open. I'm not gonna let this knock
1:04:39
you hang on now. Okay. So a s m R
1:04:45
F T than I forget her her f she does
1:04:49
pretty well that she dies better than a lot of
1:04:51
people's whip the whips. Oh listen for you I did
1:04:59
what I could, So Southern Culture on the Fly. It's
1:05:01
just hey, we got the ability now to like by
1:05:05
the way, Southern Culture on the Fly got me two
1:05:07
of the sweetest visors I have ever seen. I saw those.
1:05:12
Speaker 4: I can't wait to wear them.
1:05:13
Speaker 1: You are an advisor guy. I am a vizor guy.
1:05:16
Speaker 2: No advisor people, yeah, and non advisor people.
1:05:18
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:05:19
Speaker 2: I love a good advisor. I don't mind visors.
1:05:22
Speaker 1: They just don't.
1:05:23
Speaker 2: They don't wear that great on me.
1:05:24
Speaker 4: I love a good pelter.
1:05:27
Speaker 1: Alright, there's no audio, Actually there's no audio. It's just
1:05:32
you're gonna have to like is that Kirby? But you
1:05:36
get the idea here, yeah, Southern culture boys. Yeah, people
1:05:46
see what I'm saying. So you flick the hook and
1:05:53
it instantly just comes out of the vice. God air
1:06:00
off the dogs, but the big oldberry I love it.
1:06:05
Oh yeah, google dog, we got just fuzzy and just
1:06:08
nast that. My favorite is just how it flips that
1:06:12
right out of the hook. I'm just like, fit on,
1:06:15
eat the hell out of side. It was a good stimulator.
1:06:18
There you go. Yeah, So I'm just I got so
1:06:28
today I was thinking I was in a coffee shop
1:06:32
of my Choosing today, and I just love this photo.
1:06:39
I was in a coffee shop for my choosing today
1:06:41
and saw dude wearing a tank top and it just
1:06:47
kind of made me think, in what situations is a
1:06:50
guy allowed to wear a tank top. I don't think
1:06:53
there's too many.
1:06:54
Speaker 4: No, I've never worn one.
1:06:56
Speaker 2: I mean I did as like a kid.
1:06:58
Speaker 1: I did in fifth grade. One of the member of
1:06:59
these the Hot Shark Truise colored big. I think we
1:07:04
should all wear them for the next podcast and see
1:07:07
who's trying to flex them tank tops on the next show.
1:07:11
For sure, now that people can watch this.
1:07:13
Speaker 2: And see, I will say the older I get them.
1:07:16
I don't wear take tops, but the length of my
1:07:20
ens with my shorts is getting shorter. Oh, I appreciate
1:07:24
a good like five inch I got one. Look look
1:07:26
at this, Look at those things. Yeah five inch mat. Yeah,
1:07:31
let's let the people see it exactly.
1:07:33
Speaker 1: But so one time on a flight, so you always
1:07:37
get sometimes you get the heavy, heavy person sitting next
1:07:40
to you. I'm a big dude, but I sit in
1:07:43
my zone and I'm not creeping in on your zone.
1:07:47
But said large, large person. Last time, when Sarah and
1:07:50
I were flying back from Montana with Piper and Sarah
1:07:52
and Piper I had. There were two seats together I had.
1:07:55
I also, I had to share a seat in the middle.
1:07:57
Large large. I'm new this like I should. I had
1:08:01
to buy to seeks large. But one time I had
1:08:04
a guy wearing a freaking tank top. It was large, large.
1:08:09
Speaker 4: It is so fucking gross.
1:08:11
Speaker 1: I hadn't. I had to get tank top side arm
1:08:14
and say that skin to skin contact, Yeah, it's not okay,
1:08:17
it's not a guy and so and then I saw
1:08:20
a guy today wearing a tank top. So anytime I
1:08:22
see a dude wearing a tank tom to take me
1:08:24
back to that day on the airplane. Tank top should
1:08:27
be fucking outlawed. Unless you're literally working out. You take
1:08:30
them off when you get in the car. You don't
1:08:32
go anywhere with a tank top.
1:08:33
Speaker 4: You know that sounds like a good song. You should
1:08:35
write that somewhere and.
1:08:37
Speaker 1: Tank to tank. I got my coutins planes in general,
1:08:42
like I can't. I was robbed dug in this.
1:08:45
Speaker 4: Sitting nicked to a tank or.
1:08:52
Speaker 2: I don't think you should have to dress up for
1:08:54
public transport like playing, but I feel like you should
1:08:56
not be.
1:08:57
Speaker 4: To be responsible. Everybody he's listening.
1:09:00
Speaker 1: I just want to remind the d has sat through
1:09:02
this and watched Mike Ben's and eat an entire pizza.
1:09:09
There's no one here. I do want to say, you
1:09:12
guys want to hear about my Caravell trip. Hell yeah, dude,
1:09:16
look what happened to this weird all right? So Caravelle
1:09:22
Florita went down there, flowed right up, went down there
1:09:27
with analysis. We've had a trip down there with Nick
1:09:33
Sassage Accord until we got converted to h David's buddy Jack. Yeah,
1:09:40
Jack Foley, good guy. We go with my Texas buddies,
1:09:43
Garrett and Chance and they fished with Mangham. But we
1:09:46
all stay at the same place. We stay in Megame's house. Yeah,
1:09:49
it's a lot of fun. We have a blast.
1:09:51
Speaker 4: Last year, I got a mohawk haircut.
1:09:53
Speaker 1: Nice. You know, these kind of things just kind of
1:09:55
happened naturally. I think Mike's doff. Then, No, I didn't
1:09:58
know that. I never got one from Mangam. Don't you
1:10:03
said for that. We even did a podcast Give Me
1:10:05
that at megan place while he was cutting someone else's
1:10:08
hair in the living room.
1:10:09
Speaker 4: We called it Mango's Barbershop.
1:10:14
Speaker 2: I feel better now, but a human.
1:10:16
Speaker 1: So we had four days of set out of anything
1:10:24
from three miles per hour wind to twelve miles per hour. Yeah,
1:10:27
and then it was exactly how sail Flow said it
1:10:31
was going to be, like it nailed it out.
1:10:32
Speaker 2: Every day we had great weather, which is rare for
1:10:34
those of you that don't rely on sail flow in
1:10:36
your day to day Lafe that ship is never right.
1:10:39
It's always wrong in the wrong direction. Like if you
1:10:42
want it to be a little windier, it's gonna be
1:10:43
flat calm. If you wanted to be a little calmer,
1:10:45
it's going to be blowing its tits off. I've learned though,
1:10:48
if it says five, it's gonna be ten, Like it's
1:10:50
always going to be a little bit, especially on the
1:10:53
water when I have had times where it says I
1:10:55
was like I wish I had a little bit of
1:10:57
wind on the water, and then they'll say it's gonna
1:10:59
be two or four and it'll be the zero and
1:11:03
even words.
1:11:05
Speaker 1: Maybe, So I'm not gonna you know, I tell you
1:11:09
how all four days were like another podcast that I've
1:11:12
listened to before. It does and it just wears me
1:11:14
the funk out. I'm like, really, we're on day three ten.
1:11:17
Speaker 2: Am, Day three five am, I had just like felt
1:11:23
a little tame off.
1:11:26
Speaker 1: That's when I turned off and like you can't be
1:11:27
shipping me so great weather. Fish were there, fish we're
1:11:33
eating every time. We first day we had a byte contest,
1:11:38
how many eats you getting one hundred bucks? By nine
1:11:42
am we were getting a text they're on the seventh
1:11:47
eat and we're still trying to get our second. Jesus
1:11:50
Mangham had there is petfish man that he's got that fishery,
1:11:54
so that I'll do where to be what tied, what
1:11:58
angle to be at, what the strip should be a
1:12:01
chance and Garrett are good anglers. Sure, it's one thing
1:12:04
you have good fishermen on your boat. They're basically the
1:12:06
extension of what Mangum was selling him to do. And
1:12:10
we were seeing fish too. But it's just incredible. How
1:12:14
you know, about ten am we've gotten three eats which
1:12:16
were pumped about, you know, one or two jumps whatever.
1:12:19
Those guys have tripled that every day. And that's just
1:12:23
what every day was like. We kind of day three,
1:12:25
we learned not to make bets anymore. That's just stupid.
1:12:29
Speaker 2: You learned not to pay for their beer the whole
1:12:31
time they were there.
1:12:32
Speaker 1: Yeah. And another thing too, is Mangham's that should them
1:12:36
that he has, Yeah, three hundred horsepowers, got three hundred out.
1:12:40
It's the widow Maker. It's the boat that basically dust
1:12:43
him and Fain had made that Huldam now makes where
1:12:46
you can actually buy it. Didn't they have like ballast, Yeah,
1:12:50
they can take it can take in water. That's amazing.
1:12:56
So we gotten my thing. It's like day two. It
1:13:00
was a little slowest. We all met somewhere and maybe
1:13:03
was like you'll want to get you and Alex wanted
1:13:04
to get on on the thing and check it out.
1:13:06
Speaker 4: N h Yes, absolutely think Garrett changed for like wait.
1:13:12
Speaker 1: Man, this is this is We played for this boat.
1:13:14
We don't want so you know they were messing around
1:13:19
with us.
1:13:19
Speaker 5: But so.
1:13:22
Speaker 1: We went I think seventy two all this ship and
1:13:26
when it was in seventy two with three people on
1:13:28
a flat, like, dude in that.
1:13:30
Speaker 8: Boat was so stable, seventy two miles brown and it
1:13:33
was so it has like the dial go like I
1:13:36
want to.
1:13:37
Speaker 1: Say, was it you and me that one of the
1:13:38
Dean's but one time yeah, and he got weight, he
1:13:41
got so fast, scared, like maybe mid fifties and it's.
1:13:44
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, like your air fucking trying to grow.
1:13:47
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I had sixty eight and a flat butt,
1:13:50
want to go whatever one that's the fast.
1:13:52
Speaker 1: You know, you know what jigging off the thing is
1:13:55
just just chiding though it's not doing like weird stuff.
1:13:58
It's pretty set its way, and uh it was. It
1:14:01
was scary, Like I was sitting there thinking to myself
1:14:06
if we hit a certain thing, like how far what
1:14:09
I had? Yeah, exactly, And uh so when we kind
1:14:13
of came down off plane and I was like okay, okay,
1:14:17
then I was asking her a chance. I go, So
1:14:19
when you guys are going from spot to spot, it's
1:14:21
pretty ideal conditions are y' all like open, like wide open?
1:14:24
He goes, okay, so you're doing that all day? Oh yeah,
1:14:29
you don't. You don't buy that boat and not run
1:14:31
it to the like, no.
1:14:32
Speaker 4: That's up, David rolls, man, he rolls. Some guys like speech, Yeah, no, yeah,
1:14:37
that's what I like to always say.
1:14:39
Speaker 2: The fast the fast I've ever had driven a skiff
1:14:43
was the hughes Ace guy and I at fifty eight
1:14:46
in it by myself.
1:14:47
Speaker 6: Like just alone and like that was too much. Yeah,
1:14:51
well and then that big ass but it was a
1:14:52
twenty one hues I mean, like.
1:14:54
Speaker 1: So like I had twenty one gentleman.
1:14:56
Speaker 6: Yeah, I had tabbed up and aired out and I
1:14:58
don't have ballance tanks and ship and so she was
1:15:00
just walking on her chin.
1:15:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like best, I'm about to become airborne here
1:15:06
in about three seconds. Imagine the horror of that.
1:15:09
Speaker 6: But now we should like those Freeman cats are forty
1:15:12
foot long. Yeah, offshore boats running seventy mile of that.
1:15:15
That's not I mean, that's just crazy.
1:15:19
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was a good trip. It was a good
1:15:21
condition We had great conditionals. We had a good time.
1:15:23
That little tiki bar down.
1:15:25
Speaker 6: There and that picture you sent me a texting to
1:15:27
me that fish was up there. So yeah, that fish
1:15:31
went for a high jump record. Like that was a
1:15:33
laid up fish.
1:15:34
Speaker 1: That was Garrett on that road. Yeah, that was a
1:15:36
laid up fish. Yeah, afternoon those fish and was late fish.
1:15:40
Just jump, dude.
1:15:42
Speaker 2: That thing was, I mean it was.
1:15:43
Speaker 4: I mean it's hard.
1:15:44
Speaker 2: It's very hard in a picture to judge, but like
1:15:46
it looks like it's ten plus feet.
1:15:48
Speaker 1: From over the water, like fifteen It was up. I
1:15:51
did my best way to like measure how tall the
1:15:54
boat is, and Garrett put it at twelve or thirteen.
1:15:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was it could be it was up there.
1:16:00
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, it was only thing.
1:16:01
It's like it looked like somebody like crook cut and
1:16:03
like pasted it higher than it shouldn't be.
1:16:06
Speaker 1: To make an entire comment while it's in the area exactly,
1:16:11
like that's like that I haven't seen like megham, this.
1:16:18
Speaker 4: Love those big jumps.
1:16:20
Speaker 1: That's awesome, you know, the fun true, But I think
1:16:21
those guys voted like thirteen fish in four or five days,
1:16:26
and those guys were just those they were killing. But
1:16:29
at the same time, though Alex and I had a blast. Yeah,
1:16:32
like what I was saying earlier, we had fred on.
1:16:34
I mean we we fed twelve fish and or ten
1:16:37
whatever it was, and jumped five or six and we
1:16:41
didn't get any of the boat. But it didn't ruin
1:16:43
our day. We had three four that just saw it
1:16:45
off right before we're about to grab note none. I
1:16:48
like to touch one every once in a while. But honestly,
1:16:51
the heat, Yeah, they eat and like get a couple
1:16:57
of jumps out of them and.
1:16:58
Speaker 6: I'm good, like to be fair, I mean, because most
1:17:01
of it's just sweating and grinding and cussing, you know,
1:17:03
between between they eat and touching them.
1:17:06
Speaker 2: Everyone's all you want to you want to grab one
1:17:08
and just be like all right, you know, just for
1:17:10
that feeling.
1:17:11
Speaker 6: But like, honestly, yeah, if I went all day and
1:17:13
like never touched one but put five or six in
1:17:16
the air, that yeah, call it.
1:17:18
Speaker 1: A wind baby. That's in the wind column for me.
1:17:20
I love that.
1:17:21
Speaker 4: I do have one story.
1:17:22
Speaker 1: I think it was day three and this is after
1:17:25
the day after we had uh you know, at this
1:17:28
point we had been in his boat and felt what
1:17:31
that's life to go that fast in his boat, and
1:17:34
we're both at the marina and I think they kind
1:17:36
of got set up first, so they're kind of backing
1:17:38
out a little bit ahead of us. And by the
1:17:41
time they get to kind of where you can just
1:17:43
kind of hit it, it's only it's only like a
1:17:46
seventy yards stop all and by the time that they
1:17:49
got well you can kind of hit it, we're backing out.
1:17:51
Speaker 4: So we kind of as we kind of straightened out.
1:17:53
Speaker 1: We're seeing them gone gone, and we kind of were
1:17:57
poking around kind of talking to bullshit and we're not
1:17:59
really gonna hurry.
1:18:00
Speaker 4: And it's right at.
1:18:01
Speaker 1: Seven fifteen in the morning, sun's coming up behind us,
1:18:05
right where we get where we can hit it. We
1:18:07
start hitting it and jackets of text kind of comes
1:18:10
off the engine. What the fuck they've already got one
1:18:15
on And I'm not kidding in that amount of time. Now,
1:18:22
there's a big elegent point you have to go around
1:18:25
and there's a spot, yeah, and then five hundred yards
1:18:29
when you turn the point. Caught five hundred yards there,
1:18:32
So that's where they went. But just getting that sense
1:18:35
just like it's not defeating, but it's just like, what
1:18:38
the fuck? So they wanted us to go boat side
1:18:40
and take a photo because you got this amazing just light. Yeah,
1:18:44
oh it's perfect, that magic moment. So we went.
1:18:48
Speaker 2: But you're also like, I kind of also want to
1:18:50
go fishing. Yeah, we've got fish roller.
1:18:53
Speaker 1: We want to go now. I can't say no, no,
1:18:57
because you know, Chance wants the shot of his fish
1:18:59
boat side with the sun blaring, and somebody did and
1:19:02
it is a good picture. Yeah, it's cool shot. So yeah,
1:19:06
so that that's kind of what it's just defeating, but
1:19:08
it's also happy. You're like, ah, Megan plays that game.
1:19:15
You got to keep a little bit like you know,
1:19:18
let you slip off and Jack Jack does a good
1:19:21
job of playing it. Yeah, so I had a great time.
1:19:26
Like you can't get dates with Mangham, you might be
1:19:29
able to do in the winter red fishing like in
1:19:31
that area, like you know, Santa Rosa Beach, but if
1:19:34
you can't get dates with David, good dates.
1:19:37
Speaker 4: With Jackman is awesome.
1:19:39
Speaker 1: Jack Foley. Uh, and I think they book all their
1:19:42
trip through uh shallow shallow water expeditions, expeditions, So I
1:19:50
think it's through Old Florida flashop. It's over there in watercolor. Yeah, yeah,
1:19:58
Old Florida. That's the one that's above Miami. Old is
1:20:05
in watercolor.
1:20:06
Speaker 2: Ola is in that Old Florida was Appla, Yeah, Appleachicola.
1:20:13
There's one there, but that's uh that coast, well there's
1:20:19
aplatch Alphas and there's Forgotten Coast is an appleatical as well,
1:20:23
and then yeah, it doesn't matter.
1:20:25
Speaker 1: All that stuff, all that, but yeah, there you go,
1:20:29
tarp tarp and laid July and Maria Island. I'm telling
1:20:33
you that's got some action. That's where you went and Maria. Yeah,
1:20:37
it's north of Boku Grant. Yeah, so it's probably sixty
1:20:45
miles near Charlotte Harbor. It's north of that, and it's
1:20:50
it's it's got some awesome stuff. It doesn't have a
1:20:53
lot of turf, you know, so I definitely would never
1:20:56
recommend anyone go on there own turf is in like
1:20:59
this place like room to fish, Yeah, I would say
1:21:02
get with one of these. You can get on other
1:21:04
people's action really fast without knowing. Yeah, you could stumble
1:21:08
upon it, but it is a really really great area. Now, Mike,
1:21:14
you went out and fish with flood tied today or yesterday? Yeah,
1:21:17
we have one right now as we speak. Yeah, well
1:21:19
it's it's over now, but we had one. I would
1:21:22
have been right about five. Man, that water's got to
1:21:25
be warm. It wasn't bad yesterday.
1:21:28
Speaker 6: I mean I didn't have my GPS on, so I
1:21:30
can't go to the number. But it didn't feel bad.
1:21:32
But I found some fish. Yeah, I hit some stuff.
1:21:36
I ain't fished the Wando in a hold day a
1:21:38
long time, but thank you, I fished fished some of
1:21:42
my old spots in the Wando. Found a fish. They
1:21:45
were happy, and then on top of that I just
1:21:49
went running around and just ran.
1:21:50
Speaker 1: The boat really.
1:21:53
Speaker 2: And so the tide was like a four four point
1:21:57
thirty up there, and I didn't get home till ten
1:22:02
o'clock at night because we after the tide, Me and
1:22:04
Germs and Luke wrapped it up in the middle of
1:22:06
the Wando somewhere around Horrorbuck Creek and we just drifted
1:22:09
down the middle of the Wando. It wasn't nobody in
1:22:10
the water. Yeah, And we just dripped down the middle
1:22:12
of Wada drinking beers and eating fried chicken and talking
1:22:15
ship till like I got started getting dark and I
1:22:18
was like, oh shit, we should probably go. And I
1:22:20
saw what y'all The pick that y'all had, like the posts. Yeah,
1:22:24
that was that was our situation for like two or
1:22:26
three hours. We just floated down the river just love that. Yeah,
1:22:29
it was that was the whole. That was the reason
1:22:31
I went out there. I just want to hang with
1:22:32
those guys. I was by myself on my skiff so fishing.
1:22:37
If you've never pulled a skiff and tried to cast
1:22:38
a fly rod from the polling platform.
1:22:41
Speaker 1: It's not easy. Show. Yeah, it becomes one.
1:22:44
Speaker 6: It took me about it took me two or three
1:22:46
fish to get it really died on the first time
1:22:47
I've done on that boat. And but like I said,
1:22:51
I fed one beautifully and he just did not like
1:22:54
to fly, which you know it happens. And then the
1:22:57
next one he went for it, and oh yeah, he
1:22:59
was cruising kind of tip and tail and real aggressive.
1:23:02
Looked great. Let him put the fly right where it
1:23:04
needed to be. And he turned on it and started
1:23:07
coming out. You know, I'm just taking it through the
1:23:09
grass and he's on and on and on, and he
1:23:10
got it right up on him. No, hell no, like
1:23:12
just peeled out, which I mean, it is what it is.
1:23:16
And then there was so he was tailing. Here was
1:23:19
like a little point of grass and he was on
1:23:21
this side, and I'd already seen the second fish on
1:23:23
the backside, so I kind of just repositioned the boat
1:23:25
a little bit.
1:23:26
Speaker 2: Second fish that was on me. I just I just
1:23:31
did what you're not supposed to do. And I was
1:23:32
looking at the fish when I was cast instead of
1:23:34
picking spot to cast too, and I just hit her
1:23:37
right between the eyes.
1:23:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm too.
1:23:38
Speaker 2: I'm too accurate, Paul. That's the problem is I'm too accurate.
1:23:41
If I'm looking at it, that fly is gonna hit it.
1:23:45
So I put it right on and just smack it
1:23:47
right in the head. Now something I've had him eat that,
1:23:49
you know, occasionally but more often than.
1:23:51
Speaker 1: Not when you're doing the cast and when you're about
1:23:54
right here, because when you go, oh fuck, it's gonna yeah, yeah,
1:23:58
you know what it's going to do.
1:24:00
Speaker 2: And I whacked her run ahead, but it is what was,
1:24:02
And then I didn't. After that, I kind of buzz
1:24:04
dropped fresco. Yeah, fresh and fresh fresh, loves a little freshco.
1:24:11
I bombed around, looked for some more fish. I never
1:24:12
found anything else but.
1:24:16
Speaker 1: And the thunder room and strapped. Yeah, okay, we did.
1:24:24
That's some of the thoughts. Other things. We don't really
1:24:30
have any BIPs tonight. We might might we went through,
1:24:35
and yeah, I was too hungry. I was hungry.
1:24:37
Speaker 2: I was starting to get angry eating anything since lunch.
1:24:41
Speaker 1: I want to hear. I've got actually one more let's
1:24:44
call it a Paul Bucket observation. So Tesla's you know,
1:24:49
have you ever seen a bumper sticker on a Tesla,
1:24:53
weather it's a window or a bummer.
1:24:54
Speaker 4: I haven't.
1:24:55
Speaker 2: I haven't seen one yet.
1:24:56
Speaker 1: They're not allowed to be on. Are you serious that?
1:24:59
Speaker 6: I just next time make an observation. Always crazy when
1:25:02
I seem like like bumper stickers on paint. Anyway, anytime
1:25:05
I see a sticker on paint, I.
1:25:07
Speaker 4: Am really proud to say. And I have seen a
1:25:10
big old G on a cyber truck.
1:25:14
Speaker 1: What's a g G?
1:25:16
Speaker 2: A G like a Gordon the University of George.
1:25:21
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm a Georgia Van. Okay, you don't understand,
1:25:28
but you have seen yes, Tesla, Yes, I have. I
1:25:32
want everyone out there to pay attention to this. Maybe
1:25:37
maybe because it's a truck that happened. Okay, Okay, I've
1:25:41
never seen a Tesla Sedan with a sticker on it.
1:25:44
I have seen a Biden Harris stickers either. You're just
1:25:51
calling me out bullshit. So anyway, challenges, send us a
1:25:57
note on Barely Live and get on the damn popodcast
1:26:00
Apple Podcasts. Give us a little review.
1:26:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, please do or not even a review.
1:26:04
Speaker 1: Just poke some ship at us, pocus a little bit,
1:26:07
and seriously, if anyone can capture a picture, send it
1:26:10
into us and we will put it up really at
1:26:13
the edge of the look the frame together. Oh, anyway. Anyway,
1:26:28
I guarantee somebody out there has seen a sticker or
1:26:33
something on a tesla. I don't know I'm seeing it
1:26:36
on a previous Let's just put any eat the hot
1:26:39
off for a little bit that works on a price. Yeah,
1:26:44
but Prius will have stickers. They will have every fish sticker.
1:26:47
P h, I s h fish. That's a really disturbing picture. Well,
1:26:52
she likes hot dogs, Doug, Yeah she does. It ain't
1:26:56
your fault and does it ain't your concern. She does
1:27:00
this frescos tasty. So so what else do we need
1:27:06
to chop up? Let's just have a couple of thoughts here.
1:27:09
I was going to have you. We'll get closest to
1:27:12
taking a break. Yeah, I want you to give me
1:27:15
a review about the Flatland Cavalry Show.
1:27:20
Speaker 4: Okay, we can do that.
1:27:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can do it because I have I've got
1:27:23
my observation. But it I didn't really go in the
1:27:26
show and early well partaking it. Music was fantastic. I
1:27:31
was incredibly uncomfortable.
1:27:33
Speaker 4: You will say fantastic. I would say fantastic.
1:27:36
Speaker 1: Music was great.
1:27:39
Speaker 4: I'm very wary of an under twenty one show. Called
1:27:43
to Charleston, called to Charleston.
1:27:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of very young people, Yeah,
1:27:49
dressed up in very warm gears. It looked like they
1:27:52
were all dressed up in Yellowstone, Like is it they
1:27:54
were standbys or what do they call it? Yeah, extras extras.
1:27:59
It could have been a shoot for a Yellowstone. Yeah,
1:28:02
a Yellowstone. I mean, I'm talking.
1:28:04
Speaker 4: It was ninety seven degrees. Yeah, and there was every
1:28:09
variety of areat Le's.
1:28:11
Speaker 2: Jeans to Covis crushed? Was crushed those boots. You imagine
1:28:16
the smell in everybody's house, like, oh, just after you
1:28:18
filled on the sweat, like that's what fliplucks.
1:28:20
Speaker 1: But they were all wearing sundresses, which is cool. Well,
1:28:23
the best part was to watch about an hour into
1:28:26
it and everybody's pretty sweaty, and watch somebody walk.
1:28:29
Speaker 4: About one hundred years just taking off. He can saw
1:28:33
the pain.
1:28:34
Speaker 1: Well. I was in here about a week ago Thursday,
1:28:38
Steel Pulse was playing out here, and I like to
1:28:41
come in here when it's a show that I don't
1:28:42
really want to spend forty bucks.
1:28:44
Speaker 4: I don't even know what they cost you.
1:28:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I don't want to spend it all coming
1:28:48
here and work, sure, I don't even have to open
1:28:50
the window I can hear everything, or go to the
1:28:52
balcony like we. Becka took a little video of it. Yeah,
1:28:55
absolutely together, absolutely one hundred yards away, which was that was.
1:28:59
Speaker 4: A and really awesome. I felt your moves. I love
1:29:03
that that video. I'll never no, never listen.
1:29:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. But I knew an impending storm was coming,
1:29:10
that that classic seven pm storm. Yeah, and it was
1:29:14
on my phone. I'm like, okay, yeah, I was getting
1:29:20
after this tark and painting in here. Sure enough, all
1:29:22
of a sudden, you hear the music stopping, and to
1:29:24
see people running by my window. And then the people
1:29:28
that didn't want to give up, they all went into cleats.
1:29:30
When they cleats got filled up, they all came over here.
1:29:33
So they were looking at my window, knocking on my window,
1:29:35
watching me paint. One guy goes, so there were about
1:29:41
twenty beer cans all here, and we need to post
1:29:45
a picture. We need to show everybody what the amphitheater
1:29:48
looks like. It is fantastic. And they have an old
1:29:51
train car. Yeah they brought in they use the green room. Yeah,
1:29:56
the whale oil over there. We had to go there
1:29:58
because cleats was closed. Yeah.
1:29:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks to your mind close on Tuesday.
1:30:03
Speaker 1: I wonder if this is that like kind of like
1:30:04
a normal Monday's.
1:30:07
Speaker 2: Usually the day like restaurants and ship usually day they
1:30:10
are closing on Tuesdays.
1:30:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm starting to see some restaurants closed on Tuesday.
1:30:14
Speaker 6: And I was starting to be like, it's always for me,
1:30:16
it's been always Mondays where you don't know what's going
1:30:19
to be open or not, you know, but Tuesday seems
1:30:22
why pick Tuesday?
1:30:23
Speaker 11: Like that?
1:30:24
Speaker 1: Look at it, he's changing, Rick, You're gonna have to
1:30:26
learn how to live with that.
1:30:29
Speaker 4: I think the movie Cable Guy, Yes, yes, of course.
1:30:34
Speaker 2: I was actually looking up a quote from that. There's
1:30:37
a guy. There's a guy, this guy at work, a
1:30:41
patient or something, but it's Stephen and I was like seven.
1:30:45
Speaker 4: One of the girls like that was just like, yes
1:30:48
you next time. She's as clean as the.
1:30:53
Speaker 1: Hey fixed my list.
1:31:00
Speaker 4: It's such a great movie, Man Dark, and.
1:31:03
Speaker 1: I love it. So wait, what about Nicholas Cage is
1:31:07
new movie. Who's going to go see that Long Legs?
1:31:11
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's like a killer.
1:31:14
Speaker 5: I didn't.
1:31:15
Speaker 2: I didn't know Nicolas Cage had anything to do with it.
1:31:17
Speaker 6: I saw the Long Legs things. He is the zerial
1:31:20
Did you did either one of y'all watch then? Like
1:31:23
it was Nicholas Cage and that.
1:31:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, the one he wears he plays himself.
1:31:28
Speaker 1: It was exactly.
1:31:29
Speaker 4: It seems like it's actually really he does such a
1:31:35
good job.
1:31:35
Speaker 1: And just playing like it was. I will say this
1:31:40
right there, I didn't realize. Look how much more mic
1:31:43
is in that bigger Yeah, Look how much skinnier the universe.
1:31:51
The universe is like there must be a balance. Mike
1:31:54
lost a hundred and gave him I didn't lose on or.
1:32:00
Speaker 4: Something happened.
1:32:02
Speaker 1: You wouldn't let your children go anywhere near this people,
1:32:08
obviously for those who listen to this on the audio feed,
1:32:11
Uh yeah, we're just going through old pictures on the
1:32:13
Bay Life Instagram. Yeah.
1:32:15
Speaker 4: I will say this though, and I want to share this.
1:32:20
Speaker 1: Becca and I went to see a movie at the
1:32:23
movie theater.
1:32:25
Speaker 4: It was incredible. When did we stop doing COVID?
1:32:28
Speaker 1: COVID It was COVID. I hadn't been three years. It
1:32:31
was so much fun.
1:32:32
Speaker 2: I'd say it's COVID and a combination of COVID and
1:32:35
having the option of the entire world at your fingertips,
1:32:38
like you can twenty bucks or whatever. But yes, every time,
1:32:42
like I go to a theater now it kind of
1:32:44
comes back to like when you were kidding, Like it
1:32:46
has become more of a treat exact.
1:32:48
Speaker 1: It's like a special event. Think about it so often. Yeah,
1:32:51
and also just going all the time. Dude.
1:32:59
Speaker 2: We went and saw like fishing, waiters, waiters.
1:33:05
Speaker 1: The humans. Sometimes during your waiter you got your waiters though,
1:33:11
you go downtown theater. I took Viper to see Despicable
1:33:15
Media the day. Say, it's the fourth movie we've taken
1:33:19
under and every time she's got a little bit further.
1:33:22
And this time we completed the movie oh Wow, which
1:33:25
is a huge feet because they get distracted with the trees.
1:33:28
Like if you're out of M and ms, it becomes
1:33:32
all about the eminem it's not even about the movie.
1:33:35
Speaker 2: There's no way my daughter can even be I can't,
1:33:38
like I can't.
1:33:38
Speaker 1: You're a year away.
1:33:39
Speaker 7: Yeah.
1:33:39
Speaker 1: I took her to see something in two and a
1:33:42
half and that was a complete disaster.
1:33:44
Speaker 4: There's no way her change channel.
1:33:48
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't even.
1:33:50
Speaker 2: Watch watch mickey Mouse.
1:33:53
Speaker 1: It was Yeah, so I wouldn't even try to your three. Yeah,
1:33:57
it's just well, my daughter isn't there though. She want
1:33:59
to everything. She didn't want to be down the stairs.
1:34:02
And we sat close to like where they had there's
1:34:05
piping and stuff, and she was that's what she was doing.
1:34:08
Like it was at that point. I was like, we're
1:34:10
out here and we're going Yeah, so uh I got
1:34:14
a good story though. Yeah, this lady, I want to
1:34:17
hear it.
1:34:19
Speaker 4: So we're starting the movie starting.
1:34:20
Speaker 1: You're right at that point where the lights are going
1:34:22
down starting, this lady walks in like seven kids, like
1:34:29
a tribe of kids behind her, and I'm like, oh boy,
1:34:32
here we go. There's always the thing, there's always something.
1:34:37
So she got out of her tickets and was doing this.
1:34:40
And now they're sign seating you know, like that's just
1:34:42
how it is now. At least the Citadel Movie Theater,
1:34:45
there's a science seating. You you buy an assigned.
1:34:48
Speaker 2: Seating, Yeah, you buy, you picked your seat like an airplane.
1:34:51
Speaker 1: Oh that's new. It's nice because then you or something
1:34:54
like that. But this this one is Senadel like that.
1:34:58
I love it.
1:34:58
Speaker 2: I love it, Like, yeah, you're like I paid for
1:35:00
that seat because that's where I wanted to sit for
1:35:02
this movie.
1:35:02
Speaker 4: See, I like old scramble.
1:35:07
Speaker 12: We gotta get in there.
1:35:09
Speaker 1: You sit in line. I don't want to go get
1:35:11
I like I like you like southwesternial lines.
1:35:13
Speaker 4: This is de Yeah, we're flying del So.
1:35:19
Speaker 1: She starts getting her seats out. Oh my gosh, she's
1:35:21
gonna have to like, these kids are not all gonna
1:35:24
be together, They're gonna be scrambled up. So she had
1:35:27
two here, two here, two here, and she and one
1:35:29
of them here like all over the theater like okay,
1:35:33
So she sits them all down. Meanwhile the movie is starting.
1:35:36
Piper is totally like locking on what's going on because
1:35:39
she was looking at kids like kids like looking at kids. Yeah,
1:35:42
I'm like Piper. Just so two of them sit by us,
1:35:46
and he starts with me like I like this movie,
1:35:49
like like my daddy likes movies like I got pop girl,
1:35:55
Like Piper, let's just walk to me a little ship.
1:35:58
It's just whatever. So they all sit down and then
1:36:04
she comes up about five minutes later to the kids session,
1:36:07
y'all want what do you want to drink? You want
1:36:10
Eminem's or snow snaps or she didn't too at a time.
1:36:17
She didn't at the time, she'd get theres go back,
1:36:20
come back. In the whole movie. Paul's been five hundred
1:36:23
dollars the whole movie. They are She's catering to these
1:36:29
kids all over the place. Wait, she sit down for
1:36:33
like ten minutes and get what's funny is when funny
1:36:36
stuff would happen. This kid up here will be.
1:36:38
Speaker 16: Like, hey, God, it's funny.
1:36:40
Speaker 1: Like they would talking to each other. They were constantly
1:36:43
yelling at each other throughout the whole And I'm texting
1:36:47
Sarah Goo, I can't wait until Sarah would not Sarah.
1:36:52
Speaker 3: I know Sarah well enough to know that she would
1:36:54
not have tolerated on what's funny is maybe the movies
1:36:59
And what's funny is all that happening is probably what
1:37:03
typer and she thought she was tied into it.
1:37:08
Speaker 1: The movie's got a lot more interesting. Get like, I'm
1:37:11
dying and told you this is It's like a whole
1:37:16
side show going on.
1:37:17
Speaker 2: We were so remember The remain True Grit.
1:37:20
Speaker 1: With Yeah man, the Cone Brother, Yeah, you revisit.
1:37:24
Speaker 2: That when it when it was when it was in theaters,
1:37:27
I had gone back to North Carolina to visit my family.
1:37:29
Was in the winter time. I don't remember, but a
1:37:31
snowstorm came through.
1:37:32
Speaker 1: It sounds like a good Western.
1:37:33
Speaker 6: Yeah, So snowstorm comes through and it was a big one.
1:37:36
It was like ten inches plus like for North Cone
1:37:38
it was. It was a lot of snow and so
1:37:40
everything shut down, but the movie theater in downtown Oregon
1:37:42
stayed open.
1:37:43
Speaker 2: And we were like, my dad and you know, me
1:37:46
and I think my sister Emember.
1:37:47
Speaker 6: This is about four of us were like, let's you
1:37:49
can't do anything else, everything shut down, locked in. We
1:37:51
all have four wheel drive, Let's go to the movies.
1:37:53
Let's go watch Go About.
1:37:54
Speaker 1: My dad's a John Wayne, like how the theaters are
1:37:57
always open. Yeah, my dad's a.
1:37:59
Speaker 6: John Wayne fanatic. We grew up watching the original True Grit,
1:38:02
so like it was a family.
1:38:03
Speaker 1: Out and we're like, we're gonna go.
1:38:04
Speaker 2: So we get in there and everybody.
1:38:07
Speaker 6: Place is filled and everybody, you know, everybody's in the
1:38:09
same boat where there's wrestless. There's nothing else to do.
1:38:11
So everybody's going to see a movie and riding the
1:38:14
credits like the very beginning the movie, like somebody's got
1:38:17
a laser pointer and they're like going at.
1:38:19
Speaker 2: The screen with a laser pinner and everybody in the place.
1:38:22
Speaker 1: You hear everybody in the place the exactly what Polly
1:38:27
and I was like, if you're that guy.
1:38:29
Speaker 2: With a laser pointer, you had to automatically like, I
1:38:31
guess I'm not cool, you know, but like feel everybody
1:38:36
except for one guy.
1:38:37
Speaker 1: One guy.
1:38:38
Speaker 2: I know, it wasn't it was like a teenager. But
1:38:40
there was like one guy in the crowd that just
1:38:42
had had enough. Apparently the snow set him up. He
1:38:44
stood up and was like who the fuck is and
1:38:49
then like this guy like stands up and.
1:38:54
Speaker 5: It turned.
1:38:54
Speaker 1: It turned into a fight. I'm talking. They were literally
1:38:57
rolling down the stairs. No yeah, and then when at
1:39:00
it with the guy that's mad at him, the poor
1:39:02
the poor people that work there.
1:39:04
Speaker 2: I got these teenagers and vests coming in there like
1:39:06
they're gonna stop it. From all this rolling down the stairs,
1:39:09
it was a they had eternal lights on. It was
1:39:12
the best beginning to a Western ever. It was like
1:39:14
we had a nice public fight and uh but yeah,
1:39:18
it finally happened. The fight happened at the theater and
1:39:24
and then they finally like they turned the lights back on.
1:39:27
The guys like all right, we're just going to restart
1:39:28
the movie. So they literally had to like rewind it
1:39:30
and like restart the whole film. But yeah, that was
1:39:34
That's probably the most disruptive movie experience over.
1:39:37
Speaker 1: That's a little fight. I mean the guys when I
1:39:39
say they were rolling down the stairs, that's not an exaggeration.
1:39:42
The flopping. The guy that should just feel like I'm sorry, yeah,
1:39:49
like Washington becomes well the guy.
1:39:52
Speaker 2: I think the guy that was yelling at him was
1:39:53
a little drunk and he was he was taking his
1:39:55
roll a little too seriously, and the other guy will
1:39:58
see Yeah, but you you literally heard everybody in that
1:40:01
theater when the fucking laser barner started dance around.
1:40:03
Speaker 1: They're like, god, those were big, like fifteen years remember Airplane. Oh,
1:40:09
we snuck a bottle of wine in and we're seeing Twister. Oh,
1:40:15
it's just like it's really good, and you're thinking this
1:40:19
is gonna be the loudest movie.
1:40:20
Speaker 5: In the world.
1:40:22
Speaker 1: And I swear it's like can you hear me? Guy's
1:40:24
why and I'm I'm sneaking. I'm like, before I look back,
1:40:36
I swear to god, there were twenty people that were
1:40:39
all just staring at That's hard. You're like, what you're
1:40:43
gonna be a dark? Well, what you don't. I'm looking
1:40:48
at the solution right here. You just take the bag
1:40:50
out of a box on one and put the bag
1:40:52
in the first that's the way, and then just like
1:40:54
wing a little spouse slapped. Yeah, bag wine, man, I mean,
1:41:01
why would I'll never forget Germs and Luke. We were
1:41:04
running past seven the Everglades one time and it's.
1:41:06
Speaker 2: Like shitty weather.
1:41:07
Speaker 6: They were back in this back in the guinew days,
1:41:10
had the salt marsh, and we come cruising buy him
1:41:13
and I look over and so Germs is running the
1:41:16
tiller like like standing up.
1:41:18
Speaker 17: There's a bean bag like at his feet level, and
1:41:22
Luke's in the b bag. Luke is reclining his head back.
1:41:25
Germs is holding a bag of wine over his head.
1:41:28
Luke's got the Luke's man.
1:41:30
Speaker 2: In the spout a, just straight up, just taking it
1:41:36
from the bag one hundred full power.
1:41:38
Speaker 1: That was a great picture.
1:41:40
Speaker 10: Where is that?
1:41:41
Speaker 2: That's Jean's top growl jeans.
1:41:44
Speaker 1: Oh god, there's our boy man. Yeah, I thought it
1:41:49
was Mike Breener for a second.
1:41:51
Speaker 2: The old hofballa. Yeah, good times and good times of
1:41:57
wine were good.
1:41:59
Speaker 1: Times and great old Ain't that right up?
1:42:02
Speaker 18: Man?
1:42:02
Speaker 1: That's right man? Well, I don't know how long we've
1:42:06
been going.
1:42:07
Speaker 4: You're breaking.
1:42:09
Speaker 1: I think we break, may come back. We've got a
1:42:10
couple more topics.
1:42:11
Speaker 2: We need reset. But I think it breaks appropriate.
1:42:15
Speaker 1: Let's do it. I won't go anywhere now. Sure. Yeah.
1:42:37
Speaker 2: So you're pushing stop over and over again.
1:42:39
Speaker 4: So smart you're equipment.
1:42:43
Speaker 2: I was like, maybe you just pushed up again and
1:42:45
it goes off.
1:42:46
Speaker 1: I don't know.
1:42:47
Speaker 2: I was watching you kept pushing stop all right, oll.
1:43:00
Fly fishing has always been a blood sport, whether we
1:43:04
like to acknowledge it or not. Our impact on the
1:43:07
animals that we chase can sometimes turn ugly. But what
1:43:11
happens when at the dock or maybe the bar after
1:43:16
the guides turn ugly on one another?
1:43:19
Speaker 5: Just the guys.
1:43:20
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1:43:26
who chase the most challenging fish in the ocean, the tarpan.
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1:43:35
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1:43:39
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Tage That sounds like a damn fine podcast. I like
1:44:14
damn podcast.
1:44:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to hear that one. We hit
1:44:24
that magic button up. Yeah, at h I like that, Mike,
1:44:31
I like it. We're gonna watch it. Everyone's gonna watch work.
1:44:35
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I do love those true crime podcasts
1:44:38
that Like when me and my wife were on our
1:44:41
honeymoon across the country, we were just listening to all
1:44:43
kinds of ship But there's a there's a podcast it's
1:44:45
called Criminal and it's out of North Carolina, and that
1:44:49
that lady has the most m PR perfect podcast voice ever,
1:44:53
like the host or whatever. But it's just all these
1:44:55
like some of them are big crimes and some of
1:44:56
them are big like murder stuff, and some of them
1:44:58
are just petty, were funny or what ever.
1:45:00
Speaker 1: But it's it was good.
1:45:02
Speaker 2: I'm like, I could listen to this ship all day.
1:45:04
Speaker 4: What happened to this?
1:45:06
Speaker 1: You remember the podcast that we're out there for a while.
1:45:08
There was there was one about the small town and
1:45:11
the murder and everything, and oh that was a ship town, yeah,
1:45:16
and the town in Georgia.
1:45:17
Speaker 2: And I listen to that one that was like a
1:45:20
yeah town and it was just yeah, the guy was
1:45:23
a Vess murder. But then the guy he's using as
1:45:25
his main source of it kills himself and it's.
1:45:28
Speaker 4: Like it's wild, dude.
1:45:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good and it doesn't get anywhere.
1:45:32
Speaker 1: That's what's even working. It was n PR or somebody
1:45:35
or but yeah, that guy has got the same line.
1:45:37
That was amazing.
1:45:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, ship Town that was the name of it.
1:45:42
Speaker 1: Wow, man, was got a little just the subject to
1:45:46
bring up.
1:45:47
Speaker 2: Okay, long talk, Oh yeah, I could talk, you know,
1:45:51
talk about lawns.
1:45:52
Speaker 1: I got you, Doug, you get yours, well where you
1:45:55
live now, you have a little you have a Yeah,
1:45:59
I paced on that's what thinct man in your old
1:46:01
place you did too, Yes, yeah, absolutely. When's the last
1:46:04
time you when I brought this up, honestly, honestly, I
1:46:08
wanted to talk about it for my own reasons, right,
1:46:12
but I also thought I bet Doug heading bot lawn
1:46:15
and twenty years Yes, that's not No, that's not right
1:46:23
at all, because when we first moved into the house
1:46:25
on Yale, I was moaning that long. Okay, Paul Rich
1:46:29
came and stole my lawn bar Paul Rich came, Yeah
1:46:34
you know that ain't happen. Yeah, yeah, I just didn't
1:46:38
have time for it. And I had a massive chinch
1:46:41
bug problem of what chinchbug speaking of we're going to
1:46:45
talk about from turtles.
1:46:46
Speaker 4: Now chinchbug, this little spot stretched bug.
1:46:50
Speaker 1: I didn't really had a new album. What I didn't
1:46:53
know new album. It's called Johnny Blue Sky's Well is
1:46:56
it good?
1:46:56
Speaker 5: He is?
1:46:57
Speaker 4: It's name he is renamed him?
1:47:00
Speaker 1: Oh they come if I was gonna name myself Johnny Blues. Guys,
1:47:07
it's like he's not really like this, like this is
1:47:12
this aunt like that Garth Brooks? What was that guy?
1:47:14
What was his alterradio? Check out? Johnny was like a
1:47:20
bad like email her this album it's a heartbreaker, Like
1:47:24
it's got a little heartbreaking.
1:47:25
Speaker 5: But.
1:47:27
Speaker 2: All right, we got there.
1:47:29
Speaker 1: There's clearly a song that when he lived on Soulvan's
1:47:31
Out on the song about Sulvan's Out.
1:47:33
Speaker 5: How do you do?
1:47:35
Speaker 1: Let's listen to it, Let's do it.
1:47:38
Speaker 4: Let's just do a review.
1:47:39
Speaker 1: Don't want to just rock guy song? Yeah, let's go.
1:47:42
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I don't yeah, right, okay, can I
1:47:45
make comments?
1:47:46
Speaker 5: Yeah?
1:47:47
Speaker 1: Okay, all right now I like the song. This is
1:47:52
when I play music, would like the song, but it
1:47:54
was like the song stupid. This is like a take
1:47:56
off on Redhead Stranger. Okay, that's the hell that's got
1:48:10
a little neon white man.
1:48:12
Speaker 18: I got a little idiot, Okay, okay, I've been feeling
1:48:23
like compe of rice paper.
1:48:26
Speaker 19: I think I moved to not turning this good ren
1:48:31
house on the here fish all day just to fill
1:48:37
up grin.
1:48:38
Speaker 1: Now from that hell you wants making chocolate milk and
1:48:43
you got you got close the waters. I don't know
1:48:46
that fish screaming nostas and wigle with by the back
1:48:51
of the home and see where the hell didn't go
1:48:57
the paddle WI a hell off? This made you cry?
1:49:07
Kick off my flip on the scooter down to the store.
1:49:15
People say, you.
1:49:21
Speaker 2: Know, I love that he's just like reading through his
1:49:25
daily schedule to.
1:49:27
Speaker 1: A scooter. Yeah, you ever been sat on a scooter
1:49:31
the first time?
1:49:32
Speaker 17: I have not.
1:49:33
Speaker 1: Granted it's not my main mode of transportation. I feel
1:49:36
like if you got to that point you might be
1:49:37
sad on you probably like rollerblading give you a whole lot.
1:49:44
Speaker 2: I feel like the only time you get on. I
1:49:48
feel like if you have, if you have to drive
1:49:50
a scooter, like they take your license away and that's
1:49:53
all you got.
1:49:53
Speaker 1: Left is a moped scooter depends on where you are,
1:49:58
but yeah, what are they right in Italy?
1:49:59
Speaker 4: Like that's a vestment.
1:50:02
Speaker 1: It's a scooter.
1:50:03
Speaker 6: All of them are scooters, and I've had no bad
1:50:06
times on scooter. Yeah, the same thing, scooter, moped, that's
1:50:11
a razor.
1:50:14
Speaker 1: Two wheel things.
1:50:15
Speaker 4: If you kids, like, what's put the people riding around
1:50:19
that one wheel?
1:50:20
Speaker 2: I saw some guy like like putting his life in
1:50:23
his hands going down the side of the road in
1:50:25
one of those.
1:50:25
Speaker 1: I was like in the one wheeling.
1:50:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, but like you're one pebble away from
1:50:31
just taking a digger in front.
1:50:32
Speaker 1: Of a car? That what do they call that? You knowicycle?
1:50:36
What it was like? They're called got the real estate assole?
1:50:47
Speaker 2: Like this they should be called Genter for psycicles, ginger
1:50:53
GINGERF cycles, gingerf cycles, because when you.
1:50:56
Speaker 1: See one of those in your neighborhood, your property just
1:50:59
went the Seriously, you saw Sturgel right down the road
1:51:03
on the unicycle crying all right, big stew you need
1:51:24
a hug. You look complet sad.
1:51:28
Speaker 16: You get a d.
1:51:31
Speaker 2: I've started like getting like not annoyed, but like my
1:51:34
once get my a d D kicks in a lot nine.
1:51:36
If you ever to see me out walking public, anybody
1:51:38
ever meets me, don't take any offense. I'm generally walking
1:51:41
with a whole stream of consciousness going on.
1:51:45
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm just on autopilot and I'm thinking about
1:51:48
ten different things. But when people approach me.
1:51:50
Speaker 2: For money and stuff like gas stations, like it helps out,
1:51:53
and sometimes it probably makes me seem like a real
1:51:54
ass because like like last night, we'll stop the gasation
1:51:58
only home and uh this it was just like dudes like,
1:52:01
ain't man get think you can buy me a coffee
1:52:04
or something. I heard like the last word of that sentence,
1:52:07
and I was.
1:52:07
Speaker 1: Like, no, just I got. I was like that was
1:52:11
a little harder than it needed to move your Mondy
1:52:14
was like, ask you do you want to call me?
1:52:16
Speaker 3: Yeah?
1:52:17
Speaker 1: I answered, You asked me if I wanted something like
1:52:22
the people saying that's why you did that? Yeah, I'm
1:52:29
on a zoom call. You don't know what that is? No, yeah, zoom? Yeah?
1:52:34
Can I can I help you? Okay? Boy?
1:52:39
Speaker 14: Yeah?
1:52:40
Speaker 4: Poor Sturgil, poor you still tickled over there, Poor stude,
1:52:46
he just scooters blue.
1:52:49
Speaker 2: Poor millionaire man who's just changed his name, came up
1:52:52
album around.
1:52:54
Speaker 1: Hear the souls out of that song, I can hear
1:52:57
the thing. Yeah, you're considering the fact that it costs
1:53:01
about two million dollars set and smell Sullivan's Island. I'm
1:53:05
really feeling his pain. I remember like he was a
1:53:09
rich Yeah he was.
1:53:10
Speaker 6: I remember seeing him on the Saturday Night Live a
1:53:12
few quite a few years back before. He was kind
1:53:14
of a big big name, and he just sat on
1:53:16
Saturday Live and then just smashed the ship out of
1:53:19
the guitar on stage, like he just got all worked
1:53:21
up like he did a little took the thing and
1:53:23
everybody's like he's a country Western artist whatever, And he
1:53:25
like got off like hot and bothered and went through
1:53:27
a very good guitar solo, like just tore the strings
1:53:30
off the guitar and took off his.
1:53:32
Speaker 2: I mean like not like I'm having a good time,
1:53:35
like with anger in his eyes, like just destroying.
1:53:39
Speaker 1: Lady in the back name Linda going. You just you
1:53:44
can almost feel like like you just know everybody there
1:53:47
was like that. I thought he was a country artist.
1:53:50
He just de throwing half our stage where his guitar.
1:53:56
He looks mad. He was just like.
1:53:59
Speaker 5: So so.
1:54:03
Speaker 1: The last rock album it happened, it was everyone what
1:54:06
is this?
1:54:07
Speaker 5: Like?
1:54:07
Speaker 1: It was a really weird album, and we did that
1:54:09
whole psychedelic. This album is where you take twenty percent
1:54:12
of that mass ship with like singer songwriter stuff like country.
1:54:17
It's it's got a well rounded but you know that
1:54:20
he's made it's not boring.
1:54:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's made an LSD album and he also made
1:54:24
Cutting Grass was one of his last was mostly flo
1:54:28
grass covers, which is bad ass. I mean, the guy's
1:54:30
got range.
1:54:31
Speaker 1: You got to give him that.
1:54:33
Speaker 2: LSD that's all. You know, it's psychedelic.
1:54:36
Speaker 1: Let's take Southern culture that want to do an album
1:54:39
review and I'm going to do an illustration for that.
1:54:41
So that's all. It'll be fun something to do. I
1:54:46
got some more little idea, this little thought. Well we
1:54:48
never finished the first Yeah, we never even like got
1:54:51
into the law time. That's that's the classic story. Like
1:54:54
I've gone through show notes before, like we don't ever
1:54:58
did that. We never did that. Whatever did that and
1:55:00
you probably brought it up and then we squirrel in
1:55:03
this Yeah long this fits under long tip. Yeah.
1:55:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, the girls of the word.
1:55:13
Speaker 1: I've gone through three bird feeders, Oh, come on, because
1:55:17
I can't beat these fucking squirrels.
1:55:20
Speaker 5: Man.
1:55:20
Speaker 4: Wait, the big heavy bird feeders, like the stone, the.
1:55:24
Speaker 1: One where it like it'll kind of you up and
1:55:27
down because the squirrels get away freaking out. I put
1:55:32
the bird seed in the topic gets watered. It makes
1:55:34
all the bird seed grossy maggots getting it. One morning,
1:55:39
I'll tell you, Yeah, that is what's happening. I'll tell
1:55:44
you the answer. And it's the best thing because it's
1:55:47
way more fun. Is a high propeller rival. Oh man,
1:55:50
there's sub sonic. I can't hear it.
1:55:51
Speaker 2: Neighbors, ain't them notice?
1:55:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that squirrels don't taste bad. I would
1:55:57
in the South.
1:55:57
Speaker 2: In the South, you don't want to eat them after
1:55:59
you get cold weather.
1:56:00
Speaker 1: They got a parasols.
1:56:02
Speaker 2: Understand. Yeah, it's better to do on it's cold out.
1:56:05
But again, what say after the first frolls, first frostiers,
1:56:08
and damn February, that might be.
1:56:10
Speaker 4: What's wrong with me? Because it had some squirrel chili.
1:56:12
Speaker 1: One time.
1:56:13
Speaker 4: It was I love squirrel, but.
1:56:15
Speaker 1: We always ate him in cold weather. We didn't like
1:56:17
eat him.
1:56:18
Speaker 2: But either way, you know, let me tell you that
1:56:21
was Trey Brown solution. He kept one loaded and locked
1:56:23
like beside his back door, and you'd be hanging out
1:56:25
training he'd be talking like man, we were just like
1:56:27
hold on a minute, and he could.
1:56:30
Speaker 1: Slide out the door of heart beat that little sidetracked
1:56:36
from long talk. But we're still in. We're in the
1:56:39
umbrella squirrels living your your yard. When's the last time
1:56:43
you all played with the sling shot? I got forearm
1:56:49
brok back in the keys.
1:56:52
Speaker 6: Germs had one with these little like pee things like
1:56:55
you can like ball, yeah, but they like I don't
1:56:59
know what they are, but they're not metal but.
1:57:01
Speaker 1: Clay yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:57:03
Speaker 2: Germs had a pack of those. We were target shooting
1:57:05
at the house, like skipping them all and kill somebody.
1:57:10
Speaker 1: I've got sling shots with the play because they disintegrate. Yeah,
1:57:13
you worry about a bunch of metal ship in your
1:57:16
yard and I have a blast. I think I have
1:57:22
hit one, but I don't. I don't necessarily want to
1:57:25
kill the thing, but I want to screw the ship
1:57:27
out for popping good. Were climbed up the tree and thoses,
1:57:30
you hit that thing in the head, He's dead. Now
1:57:34
let me just paint that's an area you missfire. One day,
1:57:39
you clip somebody's kid and you end up in jail. Yeah,
1:57:46
I would have to be level at the birth few.
1:57:50
Yeah I'm not. I'm not doing that well.
1:57:53
Speaker 6: And even if you were, like but he would lose
1:57:54
so much menum once it gets over the fence of
1:57:56
the ark, it wouldn't even hurt they play.
1:57:58
Speaker 4: So, I mean I thought about all these things.
1:58:02
Speaker 1: Sure, and if it does go over the fence, responsible
1:58:04
at times sportsman three hundred feet, it's it's fun or
1:58:09
some kids eye are Yeah, well if they're having to
1:58:11
be looking at it, at which point you should just go.
1:58:14
Also play the lottery because you went straight to the
1:58:17
smallest thing on the body, hit the squirrels of the
1:58:22
bird feeder. So I feel like I'm safe. What's wrong
1:58:25
with Paul? He took out the neighbors kids.
1:58:28
Speaker 2: Now, when I was a kid, so we lived in
1:58:30
log cabin and I don't know what they treat those
1:58:32
logs with.
1:58:33
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, what is it called when they had
1:58:39
to seal the gaps?
1:58:41
Speaker 2: Well, that's chinking this but this was this was one
1:58:44
of those this is one of those like it comes
1:58:49
from a company.
1:58:49
Speaker 4: So the logs were tongue and grooved.
1:58:53
Speaker 7: They do that.
1:58:54
Speaker 4: First you have to go for water.
1:58:57
Speaker 1: But we had plumber a little. But uh, I don't
1:59:01
know what they don't know what down by the river get.
1:59:05
Speaker 2: I don't know what they treated them. But squirrels like
1:59:09
to chew on the logs, is the moral of the story.
1:59:11
I don't know why they were like, you know, the
1:59:14
ends are all like that on the side and so
1:59:16
like they would just gnawledge shut and it drove my dad.
1:59:18
Notts didn't have hurt the house at all, but just
1:59:21
pissed him off. So I had a single action When
1:59:24
I was fourteen, I got my first gun, which was
1:59:26
I mean and by I got my first gun, it
1:59:28
was mine quote unquote, but I lived in my dad's
1:59:30
gun area.
1:59:31
Speaker 5: You sure.
1:59:32
Speaker 1: It was a break action, single shot twenty.
1:59:34
Speaker 2: Gage ethica like okay, just straightforward barrel with a trigger basically.
1:59:39
And my dad would give me he'd let me have
1:59:42
the gun, and he'd give me one shell of time
1:59:44
and he would say, all right, I'll give you a
1:59:45
dollar a squirrel. And after it got cold, I'd just
1:59:48
go sit out back in the backyard and doesn't want
1:59:51
these squirrels. And I killed shit and squirrels. My grandma
1:59:54
loved to eat them, so we'd skin them out and
1:59:55
take them to her and she'd cook them up.
1:59:56
Speaker 1: They didn't go to waste.
1:59:57
Speaker 2: But I spent my whole til to just killing the square.
2:00:00
Speaker 1: That's amazing that you got in your bill. I mean,
2:00:04
I don't know, no, no, I mean because it was
2:00:07
we didn't have that much property.
2:00:09
Speaker 2: We had like two acres or.
2:00:09
Speaker 1: Something, which I do in the Indians camp. I don't know.
2:00:13
I probably I probably killed, like I probably killed.
2:00:16
Speaker 2: Like ten a year for like ten years, maybe one
2:00:20
hundred squirrels out of my dad's backyard, but like maybe
2:00:24
eight to ten a year.
2:00:26
Speaker 1: Yeah.
2:00:27
Speaker 2: Well, and I said, we only we waited till it
2:00:28
got cold enough to kill him because we were going
2:00:30
to eat them. So like I would sit, I would,
2:00:32
I would sit in one day, I'd kill eight in
2:00:34
a day, and then after that, squirrels are hard to
2:00:36
find because you know it's only two acres. You killed
2:00:38
eight eight squirrels. Ain't that many dad squirrels left?
2:00:40
Speaker 20: You know?
2:00:41
Speaker 1: You make your own fires. Actually, funny story. We did
2:00:46
heat our house with a one with a woodstove.
2:00:48
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and.
2:00:51
Speaker 2: Uh, well we had here's the ship part of that.
2:00:54
Speaker 6: So we we had a central air, we had air conditioning, yeah,
2:00:57
the heat pack, and we had a big gas tank
2:00:59
outs us. We weren't on a county line or whatever
2:01:02
gas line, and so my dad always said, we can't
2:01:05
afford to heat down. We would so my entire starting
2:01:09
about August, we would go out and we would We'd
2:01:11
have friends that were clearing land or whatever. They'd say,
2:01:13
are you come get whatever you can get off? So
2:01:14
we'd go cut trees up, hauling back to the house.
2:01:18
And then starting in August, I would start splitting and
2:01:21
stacking and we'd rotate cords to get them, you know,
2:01:24
the green cords and the drive cords or whatever.
2:01:26
Speaker 2: And we burned wood. And it was my job, like
2:01:28
from the time I could swing them all, That's what
2:01:30
I did.
2:01:31
Speaker 21: How often did y'all go visit? We lived in town
2:01:40
the bunny the shittiest part a boy. That is when
2:01:42
I moved out of my house at nineteen to go
2:01:44
to college. Uh, I transferred from the community colleges out
2:01:47
and transferred to College Charleston.
2:01:49
Speaker 2: I went home that first winter to like go visit,
2:01:53
and the house was warm, but the fireplace wasn't on.
2:01:56
Speaker 4: I was like, what's going on with my Dad's like yeah,
2:01:59
it turned out I can't.
2:02:05
Speaker 1: I got wood. From the time I was like like
2:02:07
ten years old, I've did nothing but cuttings back. But
2:02:10
as soon as on my house, like nod made the
2:02:12
gas man, we ain't doing that shit. Warmer house though,
2:02:17
those wood burning stuff.
2:02:19
Speaker 2: They only warmed were like well, the way our house
2:02:21
was of the wood burning stuff was.
2:02:22
Speaker 6: In the living room and we had like a loft,
2:02:24
so like the main power house was like one big
2:02:27
open space and there's like a loft with which our
2:02:29
living room then and then there was like a sitting
2:02:31
room form a living room, and then the kitchen. All
2:02:34
that was in one big space, and then the bedrooms
2:02:37
were off to the side. My parents' bedroom was upstairs
2:02:39
off the side, so they got plenty of heat up
2:02:40
there because the way heat works, we were downstairs, so
2:02:43
we had little space heaters and you have.
2:02:45
Speaker 1: To get up in the morning.
2:02:47
Speaker 2: I'd get up morning, I have to run. We had
2:02:48
a space heater in the in the bathroom. One of
2:02:51
us would run into the bathroom, turn it on, and
2:02:53
run back to your room and hide out until the
2:02:54
bathroom warmed up.
2:02:56
Speaker 1: In a shower yeah, house town home thing and in
2:03:02
Wyoming for about a year. So I lived there for
2:03:05
one winter and we had a woodburg stove. Yeah we
2:03:09
had here too. We can't just kind of like to
2:03:10
do the woodburg stove. Yeah, it did a lot. Yeah,
2:03:13
and it was so and I was in a little loft,
2:03:16
like I love the living area and loft. It was
2:03:18
so hot. Oh yeah, hate being hot. So literally a
2:03:22
fifteen years outside open and sometimes we're like, why is
2:03:26
this so fucking cold in here? This same way, I'd
2:03:31
actually leave it open all day long. It's not like
2:03:35
you sweat too much. Yeah, so yeah, i'd sleep at
2:03:39
night though with that window open. Yeah, I mean to
2:03:42
close it during the day. It's because I leave it open. Yeah,
2:03:46
twenty degrees outside buck, it's got the window open.
2:03:49
Speaker 6: Yeah, I will say though to this day. An axe
2:03:53
or am all like it's like muscle memory. I guess
2:03:55
it's a imagine like a wood splitter. I got some
2:03:59
people all they're just like the real heavy. It looks
2:04:02
like a sledgehammer with a.
2:04:03
Speaker 1: Point on it. Yeah, we always called those a mall.
2:04:06
Speaker 5: My dad had one.
2:04:09
Speaker 1: Yeah.
2:04:09
Speaker 6: They're just weighted so that you can you don't have
2:04:11
to use as much back force to drop, you really
2:04:13
just let the head of thing. Yeah, my dad had
2:04:15
one we called the Red Devil, and it was literally
2:04:18
a piece of steel pipe welded to the head of
2:04:21
a mall.
2:04:21
Speaker 2: I think had to weigh like thirty pounds and if
2:04:24
you just get it up over your head and just
2:04:25
drop it, it would split about.
2:04:27
Speaker 1: Anything, you know.
2:04:28
Speaker 2: But to this day, yeah, you hand me them all
2:04:30
our axe and I can steal. It's like the sucking
2:04:32
grain in the back of my like my lizard brain.
2:04:34
I can split that thing on three ways. Yeah, you
2:04:37
know what you do, you know how to read the grain.
2:04:39
But like, there's your spot right there.
2:04:42
Speaker 4: Two mile walk to school.
2:04:44
Speaker 1: No, I didn't do that.
2:04:45
Speaker 2: I did have to walk uphill both ways, though I
2:04:48
did well. My bus stop was at the road and
2:04:51
there was a hill between the roads, so technically speaking,
2:04:55
walked up hill both ways.
2:04:57
Speaker 1: Did you have shoes? I did a good one. You
2:05:00
know something, I forgot all that money they saved on
2:05:04
gas building that's good.
2:05:08
Speaker 4: Growing up, we had lightning bugs.
2:05:11
Speaker 1: Whatever happened to lightning bugs? Mosquito light pollution is that what? Really?
2:05:16
I've heard that it's all of the mosquito spray. They
2:05:18
spray all of them.
2:05:19
Speaker 2: That, yeah, pesticides, and then you never see them anymore.
2:05:22
Speaker 1: Well partially too.
2:05:23
Speaker 2: Like around city is the reason you've never really seen
2:05:24
around cities is lights if it's too bright, and they're
2:05:28
doing that to breed and they can't communicate with each
2:05:30
other if it's too ambient a little bright. Yeah, that's
2:05:33
why you only ever see them sticks anyway. But yeah,
2:05:35
I have heard a lot about well not in just Mosquitoes,
2:05:37
but like what they spray on crops out in rural
2:05:39
areas and all that, you know.
2:05:42
Speaker 1: Kill the towns so that have to blanket, like Mosquito.
2:05:45
Some towns they do it here. Yeah, and I've heard
2:05:48
of those towns. See of Busyfore they talked about that
2:05:52
was some cool ship. Were a little serious dad everywhere.
2:05:58
Speaker 4: It was incredible. It always trips me out north.
2:06:00
Speaker 1: Same thing.
2:06:00
Speaker 2: It's not really like your culture up there. And yeah,
2:06:02
you go up there my parents house and they're just
2:06:05
I saw one like we were driving or something. I
2:06:07
was up there not longer and I saw one.
2:06:09
Speaker 5: I was like that.
2:06:10
Speaker 2: I was like, oh yeah, lightning bug forgot that these
2:06:15
things exist.
2:06:15
Speaker 1: So the cicada thing ever happened. I don't feel like
2:06:18
that ever happened here.
2:06:19
Speaker 2: But now well, I mean they're all over here, but
2:06:22
they're here every I don't know about that big.
2:06:23
Speaker 1: But I never saw like a bunch of I never
2:06:25
really saw footage of people being like just totally And
2:06:29
you think redfish eat them?
2:06:31
Speaker 2: They would, I guarantee you, why wouldn't they.
2:06:34
Speaker 1: They eat they eat a gurgle and they eat a cicada.
2:06:37
It's getting all crazy. I think that happens when we're
2:06:39
not even looking. Well, yeah, I don't.
2:06:41
Speaker 2: I wonder how many cicadas hit kids talking about like
2:06:44
it needs to be the right time.
2:06:46
Speaker 1: They probably avoid that. I forgot to let it out
2:06:52
of the bag.
2:06:54
Speaker 5: What is it?
2:06:58
Speaker 2: He just really he just cleaned his office. Now I
2:07:00
don't know where nothing is to use the digging in
2:07:02
the trash. So that's not a good sign.
2:07:08
Speaker 1: Oh away, I forgot haling the bag that through away.
2:07:13
Speaker 2: I just want y'all know that you couldn't see off
2:07:15
cameras Paul has dug this bag of coming parents out
2:07:17
in the cars.
2:07:18
Speaker 1: You realize there.
2:07:21
Speaker 2: I like coming bars just more that as Mr fore
2:07:25
thos mm hmmm.
2:07:30
Speaker 1: So I wait till douggets you to bring up my
2:07:31
next little We never got into the long talk.
2:07:33
Speaker 2: You realize, other than squirrels, we didn't have that damn
2:07:36
thing about moms.
2:07:39
Speaker 1: Nothing so duck an even talking about because you don't
2:07:41
really do long But what I've what I've come to
2:07:44
realize my whole life, I've hated doing once as a kid.
2:07:48
I'm talking about like from kid days. Yeah because your
2:07:51
dad they she doesn't want.
2:07:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, she kind of hated with that reason.
2:07:54
Speaker 1: And you go through your life in your twenties and
2:07:57
you drive their neighborhoods and you see the dad out
2:07:58
there all you know, you can't see that. You're like,
2:08:03
why the is like then you have a kid. Then
2:08:07
you have a kid, and you have a kid, and
2:08:14
you know you need these little respites. You need these
2:08:16
little just chunks of time that I would call a
2:08:20
respite because I don't I don't really need a break
2:08:23
from Piper, but to know that I can go do
2:08:27
something that's good for my family.
2:08:29
Speaker 2: Good for our house, necessary, necessary, but also have a break,
2:08:35
a little break from it.
2:08:36
Speaker 1: She's not allowed to be here yet. I'm both dangerous
2:08:41
and I have it. Actually, because we we did do
2:08:44
a big landscape project in the backyard a year and
2:08:46
a half ago. Once you start paying for grass, you
2:08:50
start realizing that you want to actually take care of
2:08:52
it and make it look good, and you know, because
2:08:56
now it's part of your house. Like, so in the
2:08:58
last couple of years, I have enjoyed to some degree
2:09:02
getting rid of weeds, moving lawns, making them moist, look
2:09:05
good like your old backyard. Yeah, Jason, like that was awesome.
2:09:09
Speaker 6: I said for me though, And I guess you know, Doug, maybe, well,
2:09:14
your jobs are different, but like so for me, my job,
2:09:17
I don't. So like I go to work, the best
2:09:19
case scenario when I leave work is that nobody died, right, Like,
2:09:24
in most cases, other than maybe somebody slightly improving some
2:09:28
in some measurement of their health. In most cases, if
2:09:32
I go to work and everybody's pretty much the way
2:09:34
I left them, you know, I leave them pretty much
2:09:35
the way I found them, that's been a good day, right,
2:09:38
And that doesn't give you much to go on as
2:09:40
far as like satisfaction.
2:09:41
Speaker 2: In your work, right, Like I mean, you know, like, oh,
2:09:43
I did a million things today that you're exactly like,
2:09:47
I did a million things that ensured that that happened.
2:09:49
Speaker 1: But visually and like what you can look at and
2:09:51
see what did I do today?
2:09:53
Speaker 2: Not much there, whereas I go out for an hour
2:09:57
or two and mow my yard and trim and do
2:09:59
the weeds and and do all the things. And you
2:10:02
get to step back and crack a beer and you
2:10:04
look at it and you're like, look.
2:10:05
Speaker 1: What I just did?
2:10:06
Speaker 2: Like it before and alfter. Yeah, you get a little visual.
2:10:10
Speaker 4: Visual boost there.
2:10:12
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, what do you know about hairbo
2:10:15
gunning Bears?
2:10:16
Speaker 4: Oh, we've got through this before.
2:10:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, the sugar free reviews. Have you ever read that?
2:10:22
Speaker 4: That's hysterical?
2:10:23
Speaker 1: But there's that other brand that makes them that you
2:10:25
don't like, black Forest, can't stand them. But what do
2:10:29
you think bears? There are good and bad gunning bears
2:10:31
for sure. Yeah, what do you think is the least
2:10:33
favorite color? They're all the same, the clear one the
2:10:40
least that's my favorite, the green? And do you know
2:10:44
what flavor is.
2:10:46
Speaker 7: All?
2:10:47
Speaker 20: You told me this a year ago, yeating, and I
2:10:56
would have thought it was one.
2:10:58
Speaker 1: You're like, they are all the same flavor. These are
2:11:00
best sertain cold bloom in the freezer. You freeze them.
2:11:04
I freeze them.
2:11:06
Speaker 4: The refrigerator works. Shaws some time. But that is strawberry.
2:11:11
Speaker 1: Wait, I got I got another hot just sports Paul
2:11:17
Buckett opinion. If you will, it's still happening. The person
2:11:25
that gets online, whether they're about to do it or
2:11:28
have been doing it, then announced they're taking a break
2:11:31
from social media.
2:11:32
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's my favorite. I just had to use
2:11:35
this one last time to let you know that I'm
2:11:38
not going to be using it anymore.
2:11:40
Speaker 4: I'm going to be signing off now some girl, don't
2:11:43
you know.
2:11:44
Speaker 1: And I follow a lot of people that follow my art,
2:11:46
Like I'll see someone following, the follow them back, so.
2:11:48
Speaker 2: Germany, that's how they algorithm marks, like the more people
2:11:51
you follow, so I follow back.
2:11:54
Speaker 1: She posted in the mirror the mirror. In the mirror,
2:11:58
you see her holding the phone. I'm sending this from
2:12:03
a Bucki's bathroom. I know that a lot of a
2:12:07
lot of y'all have been wondering where I've been. I've
2:12:10
been this. I decided she was a good looking lady,
2:12:16
like there's nothing like kind of BUCkies. I was singing
2:12:20
buggies ever, But the whole idea that she's tapping back
2:12:24
into her social media really briefly, she said I'm going
2:12:28
to check back out, but I want to make sure
2:12:29
everyone knows I'm so alive and doing well and best
2:12:33
love to y'all. But I'm gonna keep going on my
2:12:36
social media break. Thank god is Betty from BUCkies. When
2:12:41
I would have done the social media break thing, just
2:12:44
fucking just you don't have to tell anyone you're doing it.
2:12:48
It's like they need they're not taking a break because
2:12:51
they're telling you they're taking a break. Well, my wife
2:12:55
when we left, I left to come over here.
2:12:57
Speaker 2: Not so like I said, I fished yesterday. Especially if
2:13:01
if I do anything in the afternoon that meets my
2:13:02
wife is gotten. Yeah, and my wife is like solo
2:13:06
and bedtimes you saw on dinner times. She's so it's
2:13:09
a big deal. It's not a little light things. So
2:13:11
and I don't do it often, but this was more
2:13:13
of a guilt thing more than it is really her
2:13:15
physically doing exactly.
2:13:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
2:13:17
Speaker 2: So well, I mean sometimes it's like you know, two
2:13:19
year olds, Sometimes it isn't pay in the ass physically,
2:13:21
but either way, so like when I was leaving here,
2:13:24
she was just like foe giving me a hard time,
2:13:26
Like she wasn't really giving me a hard time.
2:13:27
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but she's like she's she wanted me to
2:13:31
like she wanted to, like she know.
2:13:32
Speaker 2: She had the leverage, and she wanted to make it
2:13:33
sting a little bit, even though I know she really
2:13:35
doesn't care and she loves that I get to do
2:13:37
these things. But like I said something like she's I
2:13:40
was like, all right, well, I love you. I gotta
2:13:41
go scause you don't love me.
2:13:43
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm cooling.
2:13:44
Speaker 2: I got to record because you think people actually give
2:13:47
a ship And I went like, I'm just gonna go
2:13:51
hang out with my friends.
2:13:52
Speaker 1: Can we just word it that way? But doesn't On
2:13:57
social media, it's like we forget that, Like wow, there's some.
2:14:00
Speaker 6: Catharticness about us being able put out of things in life,
2:14:02
and you get that feedback and you know, all that's iff.
2:14:04
Speaker 2: I get it, But at the end of the day,
2:14:06
none of us really give a fuck about Yeah.
2:14:09
Speaker 4: I think I think we treat this.
2:14:11
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go so far as calling it
2:14:13
at art, but sometimes it feels like it because we
2:14:16
didn't create things like tonight's show is kind of artless
2:14:19
to some degree, but a lot of the time, but
2:14:22
I would say, you don't forget about friend. Well, yeah,
2:14:25
totally do. I think what we do in this two
2:14:28
to two and a half hours is warter. I think
2:14:30
it's I think it's wortant for you. I think we
2:14:33
get something out of it, especially when we get creative camera,
2:14:38
especially when we get creative and do some fun things,
2:14:42
you know, sessions, coming up with bits and fake characters.
2:14:45
Speaker 2: And that's always been my favorite part of this because
2:14:48
we did this for years. We talked about this all
2:14:50
the time at nausey. I'm sorry if we if we
2:14:51
do it again, but we did this before the show
2:14:54
was ever a thing. We did this for years, decades.
2:14:57
Some of us at the shop like these characters and
2:15:01
these scenarios, and I'm like, we've done all this to
2:15:05
the end degree it just didn't record it.
2:15:07
Speaker 6: And now we have over the past how many of
2:15:09
years have been doing this, seventy episodes almost now we
2:15:13
have recorded that. We've taken those things that were like,
2:15:16
you know, so like you know, the stupid little podcast
2:15:18
interest that, all the characters we've created, all the commercials
2:15:21
we made, all that ship was.
2:15:23
Speaker 1: Just you know, we have the leverage and the ability
2:15:26
to put it out into the world. Does the world
2:15:28
care probably not. But yeah, we've really done more episodes
2:15:34
than we have listeners. I think we can all agree
2:15:39
if we have three listeners we still do that.
2:15:41
Speaker 3: Oh no, absolutely, but that's what I said, Like, that's
2:15:43
why immediately pivod it was like, Okay, so I'm.
2:15:45
Speaker 2: Going to hang out with my friends, That's what I'm
2:15:46
going to go do.
2:15:47
Speaker 1: And we're yes, we're going to record. She got her
2:15:53
barb in.
2:15:53
Speaker 2: It's fine and she deserves that barb You know, it
2:15:56
is what it is. It's part of the trade off
2:15:58
of being a parent, right, get it takes on?
2:16:01
Speaker 1: Well, do we have another fly line dateline? Yeah?
2:16:03
Speaker 2: I got another podcast? Uh there's there's all these podcasts
2:16:06
popping up all the time. Man, you just gotta you
2:16:08
gotta stay on top of it. Let's see which one
2:16:11
we want to do next.
2:16:13
Speaker 1: All right, I got it? All right, I'm looking at
2:16:16
when you're ready. I'm ready for launch. You've practiced all year.
2:16:34
Speaker 2: You've spent countless hours in your backyard, the neighbor's yard,
2:16:39
the baseball diamond down the street. Your cast is perfect.
2:16:45
The fish comes in on a line. The guide sees
2:16:48
him first, of course, but you get him not long after.
2:16:52
The fly the delivery, the wind. It all checks, but
2:16:57
the fish fish doesn't eat. It must be the rod.
2:17:04
It can't be your cast or the strip or the
2:17:07
way you read the fish's body language. Know, the rod,
2:17:10
the reel of the line, the cast, the fleeder, maybe
2:17:15
the fly. I know the god tied it just this
2:17:17
morning and you caught seven fish on it yesterday. But
2:17:21
are they really feeling chartrus this morning? Today on this podcast,
2:17:26
we're going to dive into the fact that sometimes it's
2:17:30
not you. Sometimes it's the gear. Sometimes is it the shoes?
2:17:40
Where's my join us weekly every night?
2:17:51
Speaker 1: That's good to stop used to name that, is it
2:17:56
the shoe?
2:17:56
Speaker 2: Pay?
2:17:57
Speaker 1: It must be the shoes?
2:17:58
Speaker 5: Like my tail.
2:18:01
Speaker 1: That was the name of the show. Isn't the shoes?
2:18:04
Like send to the ho' going?
2:18:06
Speaker 11: Oh?
2:18:08
Speaker 1: The name of the show originally came up with this
2:18:09
must be the shoes, like Dicky V.
2:18:11
Speaker 16: You know, he was like, you both mean the shoes maybe,
2:18:14
you know.
2:18:15
Speaker 1: Like that was That's where that came from. But then.
2:18:18
Speaker 2: I ended up with isn't the shoes? Because I'm an
2:18:20
idiot and I don't have any this written down?
2:18:22
Speaker 1: That was all had lamb. That's awesome, So okay, so
2:18:26
we're stopping this, let's come back on another one. I
2:18:28
have the idea too that since since we're doing this
2:18:31
format now, I think it would be fun for any
2:18:34
of our listeners send us a picture. Okay, it could
2:18:39
be I'm gonna lay this out for y'all, Chase. It
2:18:41
could be like the smallest fish are the most proud
2:18:44
up or fish as unusual. We're making fun of them.
2:18:52
Just can we talk about it? That things like they can,
2:18:56
but they don't get to pick what we do with.
2:18:58
That's right, that's right than one whole segment. Okay, the
2:19:02
venos twenty bucks to blaster buddy, Oh yes, sure of
2:19:11
your buddies shred photo. Yes, oh man, that's fucking right. Now,
2:19:19
pay for beer.
2:19:21
Speaker 14: Done.
2:19:24
Speaker 1: That's that's that's official.
2:19:27
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be and then all right, So the only
2:19:29
ones I have left unless you guys come up with
2:19:31
some other ones.
2:19:31
Speaker 1: I have the dead or allowed big guy with you.
2:19:34
We're recording.
2:19:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm just walking around.
2:19:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you guys, one two, three off technology.
2:19:56
Speaker 2: It's progressed at a pace unnerving to some and unsettling
2:20:01
at best humanity at home, no other place has it
2:20:07
touched more than the world of fly fishing, where now
2:20:09
a man, woman, and child can have the perfectly tapered
2:20:13
leader without ever telling him not. In fact, one could
2:20:19
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2:20:22
or your friend's bucket list, and you could do it
2:20:25
without ever knowing more than perhaps one not say a clinch,
2:20:31
not simple fisherman's knock. But then there are those that
2:20:37
disagree with this approach. There are those that see it
2:20:40
as cheating or somehow lessening the experience. To delve into
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2:20:57
Speaker 12: You may never be the Nave.
2:21:08
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds like a really boring podcast.
2:21:17
Speaker 1: Uh speaking of nights though, like the the little you
2:21:21
seen those maybe uh.
2:21:26
Speaker 2: Millhouse updates that Andy's been doing with the tarp and
2:21:29
leader stuff pretty good, Like I mean, yeah, yeah, he
2:21:33
does like these little shorts, but he's in doing like
2:21:35
these little tarp and leader not you know, tips, tips
2:21:39
and tricks kind of things, and uh, you know, most
2:21:41
of it's stuff that most guys that do any regularly know.
2:21:45
But like there were a couple of things like like
2:21:47
I've never like I've always hated trying to straighten leader material,
2:21:50
you know, to get him into the little leader straightener
2:21:52
tubes or whatever. Yeah, and I was like, I was like,
2:21:55
you know, he was talking. I was like, yeah, he
2:21:56
guys right, and something I never thought it was. He
2:21:58
he ties his leader between like two trees real tight.
2:22:01
So I'll leave it out there for like a week,
2:22:03
just stretched between two trees and then come back off office.
2:22:07
Bool ties it between.
2:22:08
Speaker 6: Two trees real tight and leaves it for like a week,
2:22:10
and then it comes back and cuts it down and
2:22:11
it's perfectly straight.
2:22:13
Speaker 2: And then you could just chump chump, Well you can hang.
2:22:15
I mean it's under a tree being the you know
2:22:17
what I get GFA vision. Yeah, I got two words
2:22:21
for Andy mill straight sixty he probably didn't know. Yeah,
2:22:30
oh god he's sixty. And Caravella yeah soft, he's just crazy.
2:22:36
Speaker 4: Yeah they did that well.
2:22:38
Speaker 6: I mean there's a big difference like if you like, yeah,
2:22:41
if you want to actually land them versus yeah. But
2:22:45
you know, even in sixty, like like I figure in
2:22:47
my head, I visioned like I'm gonna I got a
2:22:49
couple of like plenty of trees that youth froun, but
2:22:50
I'm gonna tie up forty fifty sixty like all together
2:22:54
and like a line like mark them with masking tapes
2:22:56
so I know which one is which you want to
2:22:57
come back and then yeah, then just cut them down
2:22:59
and just clip clip clip into my sections.
2:23:02
Speaker 1: There's nothing cooler than looking at those old seventies, eighties,
2:23:05
even nineties. The stretcher boxes like super impractical. In the
2:23:11
nineties they were like you know, man, like yeah, cloth
2:23:15
and like kind of fancy. The old wooden ones, yeah, yeah,
2:23:19
they were sold. There's they've seeing his old photos of
2:23:22
ab and these guys holding those older It's so cool.
2:23:27
Speaker 10: I think that.
2:23:28
Speaker 1: But Bill Bishop has the coolest book. I think it's
2:23:30
called like It's like Rolling Tarpaint or something. It's yeah,
2:23:34
there's so many stories, so cool. Like the dolphins led
2:23:37
that tarbet Yeah yeah, do that toube or whatever. Mosquito
2:23:42
look good boy. Yeah, they've been finding that fish for
2:23:44
like eight ten hours, like thirty and the dolphins took
2:23:47
over when it was eight it was eight pounds. Yeah, yeah,
2:23:51
it was insane. Dolphins took that tarpin Like, come on
2:23:54
with us.
2:23:54
Speaker 4: I'm sure that Darnand's fine.
2:23:57
Speaker 1: He might be, he might be.
2:23:59
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna use PVC pipe and put them in
2:24:02
a little PVC two because I love those wooden bucks.
2:24:05
Speaker 1: Hey, we're getting one is And another thing too, is like,
2:24:09
I don't know, it's not the.
2:24:10
Speaker 2: Same game as it was in the sixties seventies where
2:24:12
there were only five flies that you were you know
2:24:14
what I'm saying, Like you may change.
2:24:15
Speaker 1: Cockroad, yeah, you may read. You may read your fly.
2:24:20
Speaker 6: Ten times in a day, like and there's just no
2:24:22
way to prep for that like that. But just I
2:24:25
have one now, but like just a little half inch
2:24:28
three quarter inch PVC pipe with caps on each end,
2:24:30
you know, and just just chick them out there.
2:24:33
Speaker 4: That's pretty cool.
2:24:34
Speaker 2: So you just ride sixty or forty on that tube
2:24:36
and then the tube is like, you know, I got
2:24:37
a big hatch. I'm looking at my boat right now.
2:24:39
I got that big hatch. I can just throw those
2:24:41
down in there and then when you need a new
2:24:42
you know, bike, Debbie.
2:24:43
Speaker 4: To pull up them.
2:24:44
Speaker 1: That's a really good idea.
2:24:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, my buddies down the Keys that I didn't come
2:24:48
up with that at all.
2:24:49
Speaker 2: The guys and the Keys, I've learned it from Rob
2:24:50
and my buddies down they all do that and that's
2:24:52
where Andy probably picked it up two of those guys
2:24:54
down there. But that's stretched. Yeah, so you pretty My
2:24:57
problem is like the thing that Andy taught me, his
2:25:00
little thing was that, like I've always had to like
2:25:03
manually straighten it, like you pull up like some leather
2:25:05
or whatever you're warming it up and he and that
2:25:08
has a pain in the dick. But if you just
2:25:09
tie between some trees for a couple of days, come
2:25:11
back and it's straight. Yeah, yeah, I'm all in agree.
2:25:16
And then from there, yeah, maybe u V does a
2:25:17
little something to it, but by from there it goes
2:25:19
into a dark tube and it never sees UV again. No,
2:25:23
I don't care. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you. I
2:25:25
just yeah, that's to me.
2:25:26
Speaker 1: I trust Andy if he's if he doesn't a word
2:25:29
or not.
2:25:30
Speaker 6: If you come, if you come to my house here
2:25:31
in the next couple of months, there's gonna be some
2:25:33
there's gonna be some four carb strung between trees and
2:25:35
my back.
2:25:35
Speaker 2: Guy, don't ask questions.
2:25:38
Speaker 1: What do you think of you?
2:25:39
Speaker 2: And somebody's got ter stretches.
2:25:42
Speaker 1: I want to talk. I'm in the right place. Yeah,
2:25:46
I'm I think we're in the right What is your
2:25:50
theory going on. Okay, I remember being in the fish
2:25:52
Hawk working back to back in Atlanta, call it two
2:25:56
thousand eight or nine, if I had to guess seven,
2:26:00
and I remember him being so fixated on a little
2:26:06
piece of red styrofoam, tying it on a you know,
2:26:10
size whatever hook with like war and more warm, Like
2:26:14
if that's when everyone started fishing the warm Yeah, yeah,
2:26:17
like that's where it became like the little wormstick. Everyone
2:26:20
started fishing that in tournaments. So what point do you
2:26:24
start going back to the cockroach? I mean these fish,
2:26:26
you know, these fish that are swimming right now could
2:26:29
be fifty years old, Yeah, twenty forty years ago they
2:26:33
ever seeing cockroach, big is lemes, all that stuff. And
2:26:38
then you got the young fish that are now twenty
2:26:40
five or thirty that haven't seen a cockroach their whole life.
2:26:43
So what point do you finally start throwing the old
2:26:45
stuff from forty years ago?
2:26:47
Speaker 4: I mean I've always thought that, like, if at any
2:26:51
point in the life cycle of any of those fish
2:26:53
they key in on that worm fly, wouldn't it work
2:26:56
all the time?
2:26:58
Speaker 1: Those guys, yeah, I.
2:27:00
Speaker 2: Mean I talked to like Beaker, these guys like and
2:27:02
then yeah, of course everybody fished throw it all the time.
2:27:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, they throw Yeah.
2:27:06
Speaker 6: He called me one day we were fishing. He was
2:27:08
down there and we were fishing the same area, and uh,
2:27:11
we you know, we don't know what we're doing. So
2:27:13
you know, end of the day we're calling, we're talking.
2:27:14
He's like, I was like, yeah, yeah, we saw Fisher
2:27:16
did this, and he's like, yeah, I caught him. He
2:27:17
doesn't get your tarba day, but I got a big permit.
2:27:20
He was kind him on a worm fly like a
2:27:22
permit comes swimming by the boat and he fed it
2:27:23
a fucking worm.
2:27:25
Speaker 4: Lindsay I like, yeah, Lindsay Devans call this.
2:27:28
Speaker 2: I don't know that he always fished the worm now,
2:27:30
but there was a time where those guys never took
2:27:32
those things.
2:27:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really don't think they do. They they evolved, Yeah,
2:27:37
like twenty years, like twenty fifteen. When I was talking
2:27:40
about it, there was it was like a floating fly worm.
2:27:43
It was the ugliest, stupidest like a thing in the world.
2:27:46
But that's what it would work. Well, then you have
2:27:48
the yeah, like the one I fish.
2:27:50
Speaker 2: I can say the name without giving away what it
2:27:52
looks like because I know some guys are probably so protective,
2:27:54
but they call it the trusty rusty, and it was
2:27:57
the next iteration of that. It was a different way
2:27:59
of doing it. Give it a little more more is.
2:28:01
Speaker 1: The hook the hooks evolved was so much smaller.
2:28:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I remember seeing a permit chase of koud
2:28:06
it to one time.
2:28:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they're jacks heart, They're fucking jack so yeah,
2:28:12
but yeah, I think. But the other thing too, that
2:28:14
just in that statement is that like even now today whatever,
2:28:17
in my limited Tarpin experience where I'm fishing, like there
2:28:22
are plays like on the west coast, once you round
2:28:24
the Cape East Cape and you go up you know,
2:28:27
Cape Sable, and you keep going up in there.
2:28:28
Speaker 1: That dark water.
2:28:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're still fishing giant ep flies and ship up there,
2:28:33
Like those fishes are not fishing worms a big Sable
2:28:36
or you know, or up at Tarpau you know, Tarpin Creek,
2:28:40
you know, and then fishing kind of that that middle
2:28:44
ground when you're talking ox Food and uh Oxford First
2:28:48
National and all those big bangs out there on that
2:28:50
west coast side of the Bay where you get that
2:28:52
milky kind of silty water, black toads, I mean, big black,
2:28:57
nasty ship and those fish eat almost every fuck time.
2:29:00
Speaker 1: If you know how to put it on them, they
2:29:02
eat it.
2:29:03
Speaker 2: But as soon as you get that clean but as
2:29:05
soon as you start getting into that clean water, that's
2:29:08
when it starts getting like we need to be smaller
2:29:10
and smaller. And I think so, I don't think it's
2:29:12
so much the fish. I think it's just the scenario.
2:29:15
I think it's just so hard.
2:29:16
Speaker 1: Many flies fish.
2:29:19
Speaker 2: And think about the cockroach. Is there's no effort being
2:29:23
made there to hide the hook, Like yes, I bet
2:29:25
you can feed them a cockroach right now, but it
2:29:27
needs to be tied on the size one, you know,
2:29:29
it would need to be like a mini cockroach, you know, like.
2:29:33
Speaker 1: Basically this cockroach like because I'll tell you, I'll tell
2:29:37
you right now.
2:29:37
Speaker 2: Like the things I've been the last few flies that
2:29:40
I've had much successful on the ocean haven't been far
2:29:43
off of a cock I mean, there have been little
2:29:45
feather flies and we're talking a little like sparse nothing.
2:29:49
Speaker 6: I mean you could I could easily do one in
2:29:50
a cockroach color scheme and call it a cockroach, and
2:29:53
I mean it'd be much smaller than the O G
2:29:55
B three of monsters.
2:29:57
Speaker 1: But like, that's what a lot of guys.
2:29:59
Speaker 6: If you're not in a worm, you're fishing a little
2:30:01
feathery ship and you know, various color of schemes, dark
2:30:04
like whatever.
2:30:06
Speaker 1: Man.
2:30:06
Speaker 4: I don't know about y'all.
2:30:07
Speaker 1: But the one thing I hate, no matter what i'm
2:30:09
fishing for, I don't care if I want a trout stream,
2:30:11
if I'm fishing for large amouth pass I'm fishing per tarping.
2:30:15
I hate it when you get in that cycle of
2:30:18
changing the fly constantly.
2:30:19
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't do it, you're like, because then you're
2:30:23
the second guessing yourself for no fucking reasons.
2:30:25
Speaker 1: I've done it with you a million times. Fish fish,
2:30:28
we keep changing fishing. I kind of like it because
2:30:33
you want to figure it out. The only time I
2:30:35
like it is when I can visibly see that fish. Yeah,
2:30:39
I'm fishing for that fish. I can see how he
2:30:42
reacts and you figure it out. Like spring fishing. Yeah,
2:30:45
that's put the water at the most light bottom. I'm
2:30:50
looking at that fish at one o'clock and I can
2:30:53
put a drift by and I can watch you react
2:30:55
that five. Yeah, that's fun because now he was playing
2:30:59
a Yeah, and if he if that fight is by
2:31:02
that fly, he kind of encounters it and does this.
2:31:07
Speaker 4: Close, that's the wrong five. If he does this, you
2:31:11
clearly need to change.
2:31:12
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, there's just when I was wondering too, when
2:31:15
you guys were talking about that, I wonder if the
2:31:19
ethos of like conversation of fly fishing in trout comes
2:31:23
down to what we just talked about, the micro changes
2:31:26
of color pattern silhouettes. I think it's more of a
2:31:30
silhouette thing with trout, I really do. I mean, it
2:31:32
might be color, but I think it's more about a size.
2:31:35
It all comes down to that. But the salt water,
2:31:37
I feel like it always comes down to target, but it.
2:31:39
Speaker 2: Always comes down to presentations.
2:31:42
Speaker 1: I mean, but like the way you wheel down trout
2:31:44
is down to this, and when you talk about saltwater,
2:31:48
I feel like the conversation always comes down.
2:31:51
Speaker 2: Like that redfishes blatantly reviews the fly like that I
2:31:56
was fishing. He looked at It never crossed my mind
2:31:58
to change my fly, Yeah, which is cool, but it
2:32:00
never changed. It never even crossed my mind to change
2:32:01
that fly because I'm like, no, that fish didn't like it,
2:32:04
but the other one over there might eat.
2:32:08
Speaker 1: I would have changed it immediately.
2:32:09
Speaker 2: And you know, but you know that comes down to
2:32:11
I've caught thousands of redfish and I've got hundreds of
2:32:14
those thousands or maybe a thousand of those thousands in
2:32:17
the grass, and.
2:32:20
Speaker 1: I didn't.
2:32:20
Speaker 2: I never thought about changing that fly because I know
2:32:23
that they will eat that fly.
2:32:25
Speaker 6: If I had caught thousands of tarpain, maybe I don't
2:32:28
change my fly immediately, you know, Like I think, it
2:32:30
comes down to your comfort with the fish or fishing
2:32:33
and your knowledge base and in your history, because like
2:32:35
I said, I've caught so many redfish like I and
2:32:38
and I've had them refuse flies and then turn around
2:32:40
to catch one right and after that it's just one
2:32:43
of those things where like I know they'll eat that
2:32:44
fly like the right fish will. And also there's no
2:32:48
pressure on me to catch a red fish, like I
2:32:50
don't feel any kind of way about it.
2:32:51
Speaker 1: You know, you have to admit, though, our community, the
2:32:54
way we pursue fish, everything we do lives itself to overthinking.
2:33:00
Oh yeah, I mean from the boat to the rod,
2:33:04
the live Yeah, we just overthink everything. It's multi thousands
2:33:10
of dollars overthinking.
2:33:12
Speaker 22: So much overthinking, I could have no I love you
2:33:17
that the kids when those kids came out in that
2:33:20
one Redfish tournament and they had like a john bow
2:33:23
like a PBC putball, and they just whipped everybody.
2:33:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was so awesome because.
2:33:29
Speaker 1: I was like, there you go. We ever think everything well,
2:33:33
And I.
2:33:33
Speaker 2: Think that's part of the fun though, is y you
2:33:35
know it is there's a point to it, but like yeah,
2:33:39
I mean we absolutely do.
2:33:40
Speaker 1: I don't mean this to start put the falls on this, okay.
2:33:43
Speaker 2: But yeah, Like the thing is, like I think, and
2:33:46
I think it's a phase thing. You know, everybody talks
2:33:48
about the stages of an angler right where you just
2:33:50
want to catch a fisht and you want to catch
2:33:51
the most foods, catch the biggest fish, and then you
2:33:53
want to yeah whatever.
2:33:55
Speaker 4: I think it's I think there's absolute truth to that.
2:33:57
Speaker 2: But I think the same phases kind of go through
2:33:59
for like gear, like EI, there's a point where like
2:34:01
you just fish with whatever you can because that's what
2:34:03
you can fish with. Then you're like you want something
2:34:05
a little better, and then you think you get into
2:34:06
a point where you're thinking, like the gear is gonna
2:34:08
make me better?
2:34:09
Speaker 4: Like I'm good, I'm doing all right.
2:34:10
Speaker 1: But if I just had that, if I just had
2:34:13
that boat, if I just.
2:34:14
Speaker 2: Had that thing, And then at some point you get
2:34:17
to a point where you're like, I'm either going to
2:34:20
get it done with what I got or it isn't
2:34:22
going to get done.
2:34:22
Speaker 1: And then and you understand that.
2:34:24
Speaker 2: And I think at the end of the day, it
2:34:26
always comes down with Tarpin, especially Trout too.
2:34:29
Speaker 1: I mean I actually know Trout the same fucking.
2:34:32
Speaker 6: Presentation which presentation, yes, sometimes comes down to the right leader,
2:34:37
set up the right gear, go it can. There's an
2:34:39
effect of being had on that. But ninety nine point
2:34:42
nine nine nine percent.
2:34:43
Speaker 2: Of presentation is angler skill, and that comes from experience,
2:34:47
which comes from time, which which is That's what I'm saying, like,
2:34:50
it's not like nobody comes out of the gate being
2:34:52
the perfect well season angler, because even if you have
2:34:55
the skill level that's way through the roof, let's say
2:34:57
you just are natural born phenomic cast and a fly right,
2:35:00
you still don't have the experience to read the fish
2:35:02
and the water properly to be able to take that
2:35:04
skill and put it to use. So no matter how
2:35:06
you cut it, you're going to have to be at
2:35:07
a certain point of angling down the road before you
2:35:10
get to be that guy, and at that point you've
2:35:14
gone through all those phases. So is it the phases
2:35:16
that gets you there? Is it just the fact that, like,
2:35:18
by the time you get there, I've done it in trout,
2:35:20
I'm not doing so not know, like I'm not out
2:35:23
on the water enough here locally for me to say
2:35:26
that I'm the king of red fish.
2:35:28
Speaker 4: Now I never Yeah, who is?
2:35:31
Speaker 1: Well, if you take five of my spots, let's just
2:35:36
call it five of my favor Harris Dudley yell over
2:35:40
in the dish, five favorite spots. Yeah, you tell me,
2:35:45
I've got at least six to two. I'm going to
2:35:47
get one of those five spots. I'm probably gonna catch
2:35:49
it up. Yeah, But if you took away those five
2:35:52
spots from me, I probably like fuck, Like you know,
2:35:57
I could probably figure it out. But you know what
2:35:58
I like to do with with trout, I don't. But
2:36:03
I've been I did it for a little I've done
2:36:05
it longer, and I did it. I'm confident in my
2:36:07
five or six spots.
2:36:09
Speaker 2: But my problem is I'm always like I never never
2:36:11
was the king of red fish, never going to be
2:36:13
the king of red fish. But at one point I
2:36:15
was confident anywhere in town. You put me anywhere in there,
2:36:19
and I'm not that guy anymore. I'm not I'm not
2:36:21
at the level I used to be, just because I
2:36:23
haven't been on the water as much and and it
2:36:25
makes me feel insecure, like I second guess up. But
2:36:27
like yesterday, I went to a flat I haven't been
2:36:29
to in years, and I was like, I'm going to
2:36:32
fish the water. I haven't been in the water a well,
2:36:33
it's okay, I'm gonna go check this little spot and
2:36:35
immediately was on fish. Yeah, oh yeah, they still live here.
2:36:40
Speaker 1: I haven't been here, right, I mean, like Joe right,
2:36:44
I'm like, oh, look there's redfish because you can get lucky. Yeah,
2:36:51
lucky you can.
2:36:52
Speaker 4: You can get on fish well in the spot that
2:36:55
old fish.
2:36:56
Speaker 2: Trout, well, trout don't really have my choice certain rivers,
2:36:58
but like saltwater fish, generally speaking, barring large changes, hurricanes,
2:37:03
whatever development, you know, et cetera, et cetera. Barring large changes,
2:37:08
an area that is good for those game fish is
2:37:11
always going to be good for those game fish for
2:37:13
lots of reasons, current food, whatever. So anything that doesn't
2:37:16
unless something upsets one of those factors. Yeah, the same
2:37:21
fish river you can you can there's certain runs that
2:37:24
are just going to be you can look and see.
2:37:26
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of the river is there's so many
2:37:29
different types of eddies and little bit and you can
2:37:33
tell quickly. And salt water is the same way once
2:37:35
you know what you're looking at. That but what you're
2:37:37
looking at changes everywhere you are, like wind tide.
2:37:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's so many more factors than But like
2:37:43
I used to roll up when I was a guy
2:37:44
and either I had trout spots or whatever just for gear,
2:37:46
even just gear fishing, and I would roll up on
2:37:48
a spot and look at it like not and put
2:37:51
the hamer dound and go to a different spot because
2:37:53
you knew the way the wind was.
2:37:54
Speaker 1: Blown, or that the level it was on the grass
2:37:56
or whatever. Like it ain't there.
2:37:58
Speaker 23: Water just didn't look right. It's not it's not the
2:38:00
way it needs to look for the fish to do
2:38:02
what I want them to do. I'm going somewhere else,
2:38:04
and it's yeah, you get that way. It's just a
2:38:06
lot of hours staring at the same fucking I.
2:38:08
Speaker 1: Still say this, no matter what, I'll take a slow
2:38:11
day fishing over a day note fishing. So yeah, anyday
2:38:15
it just turns into hangtime. We could be we could
2:38:18
have done this whole show on the boat with the fishing.
2:38:20
I started to propose that, I started to propose that that.
2:38:22
I was like, no, we can't do that little mobile.
2:38:26
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I knew, I knew you were excited to
2:38:28
try out this whole count of thing and I kind
2:38:30
of love it.
2:38:30
Speaker 1: Well, in two weeks we're gonna do the see Castle
2:38:33
drafts at the event of the Free House. So if
2:38:37
you're in Charleston, I think I think it's I think
2:38:46
it's and y'all send us pictures, Send us pictures. What
2:38:49
would what would two weeks from today's stay be? Today's
2:38:53
the thirty at fourteen days, there's one more day in July,
2:38:57
so the thirteenth, choosing out of it. Yeah, what's Wednesday night?
2:39:02
Whatever it is we're doing awesome.
2:39:05
Speaker 2: It'll be the somewhere between the twelfth and the fourteenth.
2:39:08
Speaker 1: Let's let's pull up cash and drafts here, let's take
2:39:11
you look at it, cals cass and drum here it
2:39:22
is okay, so okay, August fourteenth, Yeah, that on this
2:39:31
that's a Wednesday.
2:39:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I need to put that on the screen.
2:39:35
Oh there you go, I advertisement. They're gonna pay us later, right, Yeah,
2:39:42
this is a provoto thing. We're gonna go get some
2:39:45
interviews and let Michael Son a bunch of audience Wednesday
2:39:48
the fourteenth.
2:39:49
Speaker 1: All right, so that's the plan. Yeah, so I guess
2:39:53
we've got to hear from Richard. Yeah, well we're gonna
2:39:56
do are we gonna do? In that segment? We're just
2:39:58
gonna be Richard now, sure, now, and then we're gonna
2:40:01
end with another podcast promo that is coming out.
2:40:05
Speaker 2: Well, I saw Richard over there talking to those pizza guys,
2:40:07
probably trying to calm and.
2:40:10
Speaker 1: I wish I just had to picture Richard ca so
2:40:12
we could put out here. Yeah, hello, my god.
2:40:18
Speaker 2: You know somebody out there is I mean, I know
2:40:21
Richard doesn't have Instagram, that's for sure.
2:40:26
Speaker 1: Let's just look up someone. Okay, No, that ain't gonna
2:40:31
be it. I don't think they're related. Something cultural the fly. Hey, Kirby,
2:40:44
go home, Kirby. That's Kirby case. Yeah, I'm not Richard
2:40:48
playing George. I got the advisor. They they said George
2:40:53
did Richard.
2:40:55
Speaker 20: That?
2:40:56
Speaker 1: All right?
2:40:56
Speaker 12: Well, hello.
2:41:16
Speaker 14: Fan, you man, buddy, you messed up my intro. Paul,
2:41:22
he's in here, Broado and everything, or Linen roll Bunny. Hey,
2:41:27
you guys handing that pizza over with the pizza oven.
2:41:31
Speaker 1: You see that. Oh it was so good, but they
2:41:34
didn't actually give me any more. That's because I told
2:41:37
somebody it was delicious.
2:41:40
Speaker 16: They had some hippie dippy thing over there with like
2:41:42
sweet and sour pork and and all that.
2:41:45
Speaker 20: You know.
2:41:47
Speaker 16: That is like a little pop and grease and some cheese.
2:41:50
But you know, hang, not everybody's into that.
2:41:52
Speaker 1: You know, I'll get it.
2:41:53
Speaker 10: You're trying to make a living, how you know? The
2:41:56
man all right and been a little bit hot, you know,
2:42:00
stick lots of rain. I know the California is on fire,
2:42:04
but Johnson's underwater.
2:42:06
Speaker 16: It's big, has a little sticky out there as quitas
2:42:11
as bad.
2:42:11
Speaker 1: It's human. It's human.
2:42:13
Speaker 16: Yeah, And I don't know if any of y'all have
2:42:16
ever slept in the camper full of coons. So it's
2:42:18
wet outside.
2:42:19
Speaker 1: But he's not fine. I have once, Yeah, I do
2:42:25
every every note. Yeah, yeah, so what so what's been
2:42:30
going on here? It's nice and cool in here.
2:42:32
Speaker 16: Yes, you got the Samsung up there, on the wall
2:42:35
and it's nice and cool.
2:42:37
Speaker 1: Cameras and everything.
2:42:38
Speaker 16: Yeah, I seem to make up.
2:42:40
Speaker 1: Light up there? Is that one of them things? Like
2:42:42
my mommy used to have way in for putting their
2:42:44
eyeliner on.
2:42:45
Speaker 5: What is that?
2:42:47
Speaker 1: Is that just a keeper? The lighting on?
2:42:49
Speaker 16: Mix?
2:42:49
Speaker 24: Greasy four heads out?
2:42:51
Speaker 1: You tell us what is it?
2:42:53
Speaker 12: I don't know.
2:42:54
Speaker 10: I feel like I feel like i'm I'm I'm good
2:42:58
after like going on record or something. Is I just
2:43:01
swear on a Bible before I sit here? I'm not
2:43:04
really sure what's happening.
2:43:11
Speaker 24: One of the movies, disposition or a deposition.
2:43:14
Speaker 12: One of them things.
2:43:16
Speaker 1: Deposition.
2:43:16
Speaker 24: Yeah, I've been through within them before. I lost my
2:43:21
house and my dog last time.
2:43:23
Speaker 1: I did this. I'm trying to get a picture of
2:43:26
you up on the screening here.
2:43:28
Speaker 16: Oh good, look, I have erased myself from the system.
2:43:34
Speaker 1: I'm invisible.
2:43:35
Speaker 24: I'm like Jason Bourne, only.
2:43:38
Speaker 16: I'm not as agile, and I don't have any guns
2:43:41
that the government knows about, you.
2:43:47
Speaker 25: Know, other than sleeping in the Sweetie Coon or you know,
2:43:50
RV hasn't been alright, and you know, just in summertime
2:43:54
in the South and you know it's hard and.
2:43:59
Speaker 1: Then off no, not so much.
2:44:02
Speaker 10: I've been getting out, you know, the campbell to catch
2:44:06
more coons. But that's about it. The coon call powder
2:44:09
business and drying up.
2:44:12
Speaker 1: Lily. Need these hands to start ticking up a little
2:44:14
bit here. I got, I got something to tell you.
2:44:16
You're probably happy with me.
2:44:18
Speaker 16: I'm never happy with you, Paul, But BMIs we've.
2:44:20
Speaker 1: Got a little uh some sort of pets going on
2:44:24
our roof. And the guy came last because I'm pretty
2:44:26
sure you got a possum in your attic and he's
2:44:28
going by trapping on Thursday. Any give it to you? Yeah,
2:44:33
I got, I got.
2:44:35
Speaker 16: You know what, I'm out of here tonight.
2:44:38
Speaker 1: I live in the house tonight.
2:44:40
Speaker 10: Yes, I mean not if I part of my camp
2:44:43
bag and run a drop cord or something that'd only
2:44:45
be a dance drop.
2:44:48
Speaker 1: Cord, you know, the power cord to your house.
2:44:50
Speaker 10: You're playing my house, you know, man, I'm trying to
2:44:54
help you, help me, help you.
2:44:59
Speaker 1: I won't charge you.
2:45:00
Speaker 12: Just let me.
2:45:01
Speaker 1: Just let me park the camp back here for.
2:45:02
Speaker 26: A month or two, and we'll call it a month.
2:45:07
You know, it's negotiable. It's negotiable, all right. If the
2:45:12
smell gets too bad, we can talk about it.
2:45:14
Speaker 1: It's fine. I've got a mail sat question. Are you
2:45:17
do meet the sack here? Okay? Uh? This was from
2:45:23
Jacob Skelton. Hi, Jake, Uh, have you ever gone tarbo fishing?
2:45:29
And would you ever think about maybe actually just throwing
2:45:32
an actual worm on a hook, a tarpin hook and
2:45:35
seeing what might happen?
2:45:36
Speaker 5: Well?
2:45:37
Speaker 10: Actually, oh, you don't know what's about me, but I
2:45:39
feel quite a bit of time down whole South Florida's
2:45:42
been some time.
2:45:42
Speaker 1: Fishing it in tarpin's.
2:45:44
Speaker 7: Uh.
2:45:45
Speaker 24: Yeah, no, I wouldn't been fishing a worm now that
2:45:50
being thin.
2:45:52
Speaker 1: Uh.
2:45:52
Speaker 24: I am not against live baiting or dead baiting for
2:45:56
a tarpin.
2:45:58
Speaker 10: I've been know, I have been wanted to send a
2:46:00
mullet to his demise once or twice along the bridges
2:46:04
of the Bodio Honda.
2:46:06
Speaker 24: So I'm not above it. But it's just the worm
2:46:09
is not enough to intest.
2:46:10
Speaker 12: I'm not to mention.
2:46:11
Speaker 1: Have you ever been in tarping worlds? All the Jackson,
2:46:13
the pinfish, and the the the the staffers and b.
2:46:20
Speaker 15: You know, like one time my song got it looked
2:46:23
like he might have been named by Hill, But I
2:46:25
never talked to him, and so I know my Fish's
2:46:29
bridge a whole lot.
2:46:30
Speaker 24: You know, it's a good bridge, and there's a lot
2:46:32
of hopping down there.
2:46:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I do. I've got one here.
2:46:39
Speaker 4: This is from uh miss Susie Greenberg, Ki Susan from Vermont.
2:46:47
Yet okay saying.
2:46:49
Speaker 1: Okay, let me make sure I get this right here.
2:46:51
Mister case Hi and all your infinite wisdom, could you
2:46:56
please impart on me the very best type of footwear
2:47:03
for fishing.
2:47:04
Speaker 24: Yeah, so, as a younger kso as like a less
2:47:09
mature cheese.
2:47:11
Speaker 16: I would have told you that barefoot is the only
2:47:15
way of person to ever be on bat.
2:47:17
Speaker 1: You get better grip. You know, you're warm with the
2:47:20
father glass.
2:47:21
Speaker 24: You know all those things. But as an older ca though,
2:47:25
and the little more stinky cheese, a little bit of.
2:47:28
Speaker 27: A monster, you gotta have the art support. So what
2:47:34
you what you're looking for is a wide toe box
2:47:38
and and a horch we go cushion it in there.
2:47:43
Speaker 10: You know me personally, when I'm when I'm still, I
2:47:45
mean shopping at the West Marine, I like the ones
2:47:49
with the razor cup bottoms and the non market souls,
2:47:52
because you knows scrubbing the decks a bitch and but yeah, yeah,
2:48:03
that's real busy familiar. So I recommend that you wear
2:48:07
something good for your feet if you're gonna be on
2:48:09
a hard fire glass deck all day.
2:48:12
Speaker 16: Younger case, that was a barefoot man. Okay, so sticky cheese.
2:48:16
He likes his feet nice and protected.
2:48:19
Speaker 1: I got questions, yep, this is this questions.
2:48:23
Speaker 4: What am answer questions from brooks to bows.
2:48:29
Speaker 5: In?
2:48:29
Speaker 1: What situation with your friends fishing on a big t
2:48:33
top kind of big center console boat out in the
2:48:36
middle of this ocean, can you break out into your
2:48:38
ben in Hammock.
2:48:40
Speaker 16: Well, there's a couple of questions there, really, if you
2:48:44
want to break it down.
2:48:45
Speaker 24: First is who owns the bus?
2:48:49
Speaker 1: Because they answer that question is you, Is you bust
2:48:52
that thing out? Whatever the fuck you feel like it,
2:48:54
because they're on your boat.
2:48:56
Speaker 4: Okay, they're gonna come fishing with you.
2:48:58
Speaker 24: They get to see all of you, so you know
2:49:01
that's up to them.
2:49:03
Speaker 4: It's not your boat. And then the question is how
2:49:07
do you know the guy that alls about.
2:49:10
Speaker 1: Has he seen you with a banana hammy?
2:49:15
Speaker 10: Has he commented on the likelihood who ever wearing it? Again,
2:49:18
there's a lot of this's a yeah, just because you
2:49:22
have one. I mean, you can just whip it out
2:49:23
one if you want. Like I said, if you want
2:49:26
the boat, then there's no question to be had here.
2:49:28
The question is who wants to go fishing with a
2:49:29
guy in the banana hammock? Because I'm gonna have one on.
2:49:32
But you know, outside of that, it's just, uh.
2:49:35
Speaker 1: Do you want to get invited back?
2:49:38
Speaker 16: Do you want to get invited to something that you're
2:49:40
not so comfortable being involved?
2:49:45
Speaker 1: Pull wrist and peace hold day and you got now
2:49:49
he was noticed wearing your hand.
2:49:54
Speaker 15: You know what a guy like Jose, he had reached
2:49:57
a point where anytime he stepped through the boat, it
2:50:00
was Jose's boat. You know, you to I mean, I
2:50:04
don't know, yea hammock if you been a squirrel skins
2:50:09
or something weird, you know, it would be.
2:50:11
Speaker 1: A little odd. Who's got to send possim handy?
2:50:16
Speaker 10: But like the things and even the guy like flipped
2:50:18
got on your boat all of a sudden it was
2:50:20
in a possum hammock.
2:50:22
Speaker 24: He'll be like, I still gotta flipped pound on the boat,
2:50:25
you know, like you do let it go.
2:50:27
Speaker 4: So I think maybe Jose.
2:50:31
Speaker 1: Laid off the stage.
2:50:40
Speaker 12: Yeah, yea, I'll only been.
2:50:44
Speaker 1: There six months and swearing.
2:50:46
Speaker 4: Got but that's about the plantain.
2:50:52
Speaker 1: Sorry, I don't sorry, No, it's okay, you rock out, man,
2:51:07
all right, I want to send this thing that on,
2:51:09
all right, So next Wednesday, Yeah, next Wednesday, guys, it's
2:51:16
two weeks from yeah, two weeks yeah, two weeks from.
2:51:20
Two weeks frontmar. That gives you all time to send
2:51:24
in pictures. Yes, oh there's that camera war room look there,
2:51:30
yeah there. Yeah, we're in here making drafts, making trade.
2:51:34
And remember, don't just send it a picture. We need
2:51:37
some background info. Yeah, okay, name, So let's let's just
2:51:42
send it to my email, which is Paul at Paul
2:51:47
pucket art dot com.
2:51:49
Speaker 4: That's easy, Paul at Paul Puckett there.
2:51:51
Speaker 1: If you want to send in a picture and you
2:51:53
want us to say it, I'll send you the Venmo
2:51:56
right then and there. And if you just want to
2:51:58
send us Veino, we I'm goa to set up a
2:52:00
fairly life. I love it, but for now we'll do
2:52:03
uh Paul dash bucket dash too, and I'll tell you
2:52:07
all about half of them. The other half I'll just keep.
2:52:10
So if we get a hundred bucks I'll tell you
2:52:12
all about Paul likes fancy beer. No so Paul Dash
2:52:18
Pucket Dash too, and Paul at Paul Puckett art dot com.
2:52:22
And for now we'll set up a barrel life in
2:52:24
most Yeah, because we'll we'll we'll do a whole segment
2:52:30
of bashing your friends. We love to make a famous
2:52:33
or videos. We're having to take videos famous. Yeah.
2:52:38
Speaker 2: Video video would be like video would be pretty fun,
2:52:41
like what they're going on. Yeah, I don't say thething weird,
2:52:45
like just fishing related that.
2:52:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, keep it simple.
2:52:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, no female nipples or anything.
2:52:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, or actually not, depending on how you're using them.
2:52:56
You probably just keep those in.
2:52:57
Speaker 1: There, even your niles. We're not gonna say no. Just
2:53:04
dam Paul email. We can be the game, So I
2:53:12
think we might be open. It makes sure, son, you know, like,
2:53:17
don't send some picture you found the internet that we
2:53:19
end up getting. No, Yeah, we're not.
2:53:22
Speaker 5: So.
2:53:22
Speaker 1: Yeah.
2:53:23
Speaker 4: I don't want to be going down the road in
2:53:25
a cycle crime.
2:53:30
Speaker 2: All right, we got one more of these podcasts ago.
2:53:33
Speaker 1: Alright, it's a beautiful morning.
2:53:44
Speaker 2: The mountains are coming alive, the sun is rising. You
2:53:49
can hear the river from the pool out on top.
2:53:54
As you get down to the place where you normally
2:53:57
start and work your way upstream, you see somebody's already there.
2:54:02
They're already fishing the opening home. Now, you could go
2:54:08
behind them and fish with the ever present knowledge that
2:54:12
somebody's already been there all day, or you can walk
2:54:16
a few miles upstream, maybe to the next turnout before
2:54:19
you start your day. But that second run is prettty
2:54:24
sweet and after all, as we discuss in this podcast
2:54:30
from NPR Radio, nobody owns the River. Join us for
2:54:36
discussion about High Holding.
2:54:38
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