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Folks Who Celebrate Indigenous Peoples Day Can Blow it Out Their Peace Pipe · ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes

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  Speaker 1: Broadcasting coast-to-coast and border-to-border.
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  Speaker 2: From Memphis, Tennessee. That's us, that's right. I love this
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  Speaker 2: American ride.
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  Speaker 3: Todd Starrs.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, hello, everybody. Welcome to the Todd Stearns Radio Show.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Columbus Day to you, America. And we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get into that in just a minute. I want to
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  Speaker 2: give you an update on a story we've been following
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  Speaker 2: since the wee hours of the morning. the federal government
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  Speaker 2: staging a pre-dawn guns-drawn raid on the home of Congresswoman
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  Speaker 2: Ilhan Omar. This is pretty spectacular. We understand Homeland Security
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  Speaker 2: had raided her house there in Washington, D.C., and they've
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  Speaker 2: been there for, I don't know, about six hours or so,
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  Speaker 2: and Democrats are just having a terrible morning. They have...
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  Speaker 2: apparently been walking out of the house with just bucket loads,
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  Speaker 2: boatloads of all sorts of evidence. And my question only
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  Speaker 2: now is, will they allow Ilhan Omar the opportunity to self-deport? That,
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  Speaker 2: to me, seems to be the big question here. Or
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  Speaker 2: is she going to be taken into custody? So there
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  Speaker 2: we have it, ladies and gentlemen. We're going to get
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  Speaker 2: into this. I'll explain why the feds were at her
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  Speaker 2: house and what they're looking for. But you can't lie.
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  Speaker 2: You can't misrepresent yourself when it comes to these immigration issues.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, certainly a great day for a lot of folks.
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  Speaker 2: And look, let's get real. The woman loves Somalia, so
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  Speaker 2: why not send her back to the homeland? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's what I don't understand. So anyway, we'll get to
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  Speaker 2: that in just a moment. But I do want to
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  Speaker 2: bring something up here because this is important as we
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  Speaker 2: celebrate Columbus Day. And that's what it is here on
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  Speaker 2: the Todd Stearns Radio Show. It is Columbus Day. We
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  Speaker 2: do not commemorate Indigenous Peoples Day. But there are a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people who do. And I want to talk
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  Speaker 2: to you just for just a moment here and to
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  Speaker 2: give you some give you some talking points. Let's just
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  Speaker 2: say you're at, I don't know, you're at Kroger or
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  Speaker 2: you're at the doctor's office and you're having some small
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  Speaker 2: talk and somebody brings up Indigenous Peoples Day. And I
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  Speaker 2: want to make sure you are equipped with some knowledge
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  Speaker 2: that you can drop in the event one of these
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  Speaker 2: little leftists decides that they're going to go after Christopher Columbus.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, this is a great day for Italian-Americans.
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  Speaker 2: And my only question is, Dylan, you know, I was
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  Speaker 2: in the mood today for some pesci's, which is my favorite.
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  Speaker 2: That's the official Italian deli of the Todd Stearns Radio Show.
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  Speaker 2: And I could really go for some of their food.
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  Speaker 2: And my only question is, are they open today? Or
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  Speaker 2: are they closed for the holiday?
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  Speaker 4: That's a good question.
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  Speaker 2: That's the one looming question all day that I've got.
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  Speaker 2: But all that to say, it's a great day for Italians.
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  Speaker 2: And I would raise a meatball to all of you.
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  Speaker 2: Because without the Italians, well, we all may still be
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  Speaker 2: across the big pond. So we owe them a debt
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  Speaker 2: of gratitude. But instead, there is this effort to erase
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  Speaker 2: Christopher Columbus from our history books and from the calendar.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Zoran Mamdami, they do the big parade
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  Speaker 2: in New York City. And my understanding is he's not
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  Speaker 2: even going to attend the parade. And the Italian-Americans are like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're good with that. But today... The Muslim mayor of
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  Speaker 2: New York City, Mayor Zoran Mamdami, said he refused, refused
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  Speaker 2: to attend the Columbus Day Parade. Now, the Muslim mayor
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  Speaker 2: did attend the pride parades and the transgender parades. But no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: When it comes to the Italian community, Mayor Mamdami, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's not a big fan. Not a big fan. So anyway...
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  Speaker 2: They're doing the parades, all this kind of whatnot. And
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  Speaker 2: I want to share some knowledge. Look, this is going
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  Speaker 2: to irritate some people. And that's okay, because you're going
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  Speaker 2: to be delivering a reality check to these folk. So
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  Speaker 2: here we go. First of all, it turns out that
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  Speaker 2: most of the indigenous peoples of the Americas were actually
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  Speaker 2: bloodthirsty savages. Most of them were savages. As a matter
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  Speaker 2: of fact, you've got the woke agitators, and they're out there,
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  Speaker 2: and they're in the nation's universities and public schools, and
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  Speaker 2: they're literally rewriting the history of Christopher Columbus, and they're
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  Speaker 2: trying to make him out to be some sort of
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  Speaker 2: a monster, which is why so many towns are now
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  Speaker 2: celebrating Indigenous Peoples' Day. And they would literally have you believe,
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  Speaker 2: and this is the narrative coming from the left here,
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  Speaker 2: they would have you believe that the American Indian tribes
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  Speaker 2: all lived in peace and harmony. It was like a
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  Speaker 2: Coca-Cola commercial. Dancing in the fields, frolicking with the bison,
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  Speaker 2: not in a sexual way, just frolicking with the bison.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was all rainbows and unicorns until the
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  Speaker 2: white man showed up. And, I mean, that's their narrative.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody was living in peace and harmony, running around buck
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  Speaker 2: naked in the wilds of Kansas. But the reality, ladies
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  Speaker 2: and gentlemen, is very different. I mean, very different. Because
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  Speaker 2: a good many of the so-called indigenous people groups were
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  Speaker 2: savage killers. And they slaughtered women and children. And many
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  Speaker 2: of the American Indian tribes actually took the women and
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  Speaker 2: children and they put them to work without pay. And
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  Speaker 2: what do we call that, Dylan, when you're taken from
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  Speaker 2: your home and you are forced to work in the
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  Speaker 2: fields without pay? What do we call that?
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  Speaker 4: Some call it slavery.
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  Speaker 2: Slavery. I do believe we fought a war over that.
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  Speaker 2: But the Indian people were engaged in slavery long before
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  Speaker 2: the honky man showed up. No, I told you. You're saying, Todd,
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  Speaker 2: I can't say that. Oh, yes, you can. And you must,
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  Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, because it's time to give the Indigenous
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  Speaker 2: People Day crowd a reality check, a wake-up call. And again,
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  Speaker 2: you don't hear much about this in the public schools. Dylan,
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  Speaker 2: did they ever tell you that the Indians, like Tonto
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  Speaker 2: and all of his people, that they enslaved people?
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  Speaker 4: No, they forgot to mention that part.
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  Speaker 5: They did.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. Take the Comanche, for example. According to historians,
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  Speaker 2: the Comanche, one of the most evil of the Indian tribes,
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  Speaker 2: and they killed thousands of other indigenous people. So why
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  Speaker 2: are we, by the way, why are we celebrating the Comanche?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they were out there. They killed more of
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  Speaker 2: their people than the white guy did. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: the Comanche also took their enemies captive. Yes, they engaged
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  Speaker 2: in slavery as well. So again, my question is, why
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  Speaker 2: would anybody, why would the, why did they want to
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  Speaker 2: celebrate people who were engaged in the slave trade? So
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  Speaker 2: that brings me to a story here. Because again, the
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  Speaker 2: narrative is that Christopher Columbus came to the Americas and
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  Speaker 2: slaughtered the Indian people. One of the largest documented massacres
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  Speaker 2: in the United States of America happened before we were
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  Speaker 2: ever even thought of as a country. It was the
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  Speaker 2: Crow Creek Massacre, which is where present-day South Dakota is.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about A.D. 1325. Archaeologists recovered the remains of
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  Speaker 2: nearly 500 people, calling it the absolute worst massacre Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's what we've got. Now, according to one anthropologist at
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  Speaker 2: the University of Tennessee, the victims represented about 60% of
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  Speaker 2: the village's population. The remains showed that many of those
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  Speaker 2: killed were scalped. They suffered skull fractures. They were decapitated.
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  Speaker 2: Many were mutilated. It seems as though, according to the anthropologist, Dr. Willie,
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  Speaker 2: or Wiley, that many young adult women were taken hostage.
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  Speaker 2: The attacker's identity uncertain, but the massacre roughly occurring 167
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  Speaker 2: years before Christopher Columbus's first voyage. So what does that
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  Speaker 2: tell you? Well, it tells you that the left is
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  Speaker 2: full of hooey. And ladies and gentlemen, the whole nonsense,
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  Speaker 2: this is nothing more than an attack on Italian Americans.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's all it is. And it's ugly and
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  Speaker 2: it's nasty, and we got to call it like it is.
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  Speaker 2: So the reason why you don't hear much about this
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  Speaker 2: in public schools is because it doesn't fit the narrative.
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  Speaker 2: They sort of gloss over all of that, right? That's
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  Speaker 2: what they do. But the next time somebody comes up
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  Speaker 2: to you and you see them all the time and
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  Speaker 2: they drive a specific sort of car, they've got the
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  Speaker 2: coexist bumper sticker on the back of the vehicle, and
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  Speaker 2: they're waving around telling you a happy Indigenous People Day,
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  Speaker 2: you have my permission to tell them to blow it
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  Speaker 2: out their peace pipe. That's what you can do. All right,
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  Speaker 2: we've got to take a break here. 901-260-5926. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to get into what happened to Ilhan Omar, and this
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  Speaker 2: is really, really a good day for America. And ladies
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  Speaker 2: and gentlemen, anybody who comes here and hates on our
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  Speaker 2: country and then gets elected to Congress, they've got to go.
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  Speaker 2: They've got to go back to where they came from,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what we need to do with Ilhan Omar today.
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  Speaker 2: She needs to be gone as soon as possible from
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  Speaker 2: the United States of America. All right, we've got a
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  Speaker 2: great show for you. Wendy Patrick is here. Also, over
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  Speaker 2: the weekend, my C-SPAN book special aired, and I watched it,
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  Speaker 2: and it was actually good. No, I'm not surprised. I
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't know what to expect. You know, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: when you do a book event, it can be like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, boring. But it was engaging. The crowd was fun.
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  Speaker 2: We laughed. We had a good time. And it was
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  Speaker 2: pretty much unlike any other thing you've ever seen on
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  Speaker 2: C-SPAN Book TV. So we're going to play a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the audio from the one-hour special that aired on
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  Speaker 2: C-SPAN on Sunday and then Sunday evening. And I'd love
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  Speaker 2: for you to go and watch it. The videos are
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  Speaker 2: really stunning visuals. But we'll have a good time a
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  Speaker 2: little bit later on playing some of that. And we're
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  Speaker 2: going to be taking your calls. 901-260-5926. This is the
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  Speaker 2: Todd Stern Show. All right, well, Ilhan is in a
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  Speaker 2: foul mood as she's releasing a statement saying, make no mistake,
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  Speaker 2: this is an attempt to target political enemies and weaponize
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  Speaker 2: federal law enforcement. For 10 years, Trump has targeted me
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  Speaker 2: with baseless lies and smear campaigns. This is just the
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  Speaker 2: latest escalation in his campaign of political intimidation. Look, this
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  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with silencing Ilhan Omar. This is
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  Speaker 2: about making sure that immigration law is enforced. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's what it's all about. CNN is just enraged over
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  Speaker 2: all of this. Cut 13.
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  Speaker 6: So some breaking news coming in as we speak. Learning
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  Speaker 6: that federal officers have conducted a search and did so
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  Speaker 6: early today at the home of Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.
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  Speaker 6: CNN's Caitlin Polantz is gathering the details on this for
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  Speaker 6: us and joins us now. Caitlin, what are you learning?
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  Speaker 7: Kate, we're learning bits and pieces of what's happening here,
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  Speaker 7: but there is a search that was going on this
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  Speaker 7: morning or is going on still today. at the home
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  Speaker 7: of Ilhan Omar, the Democratic representative from Minnesota, who is
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  Speaker 7: also running again for Congress in the middle of this
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  Speaker 7: election season. This would be her D.C.
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  Speaker 2: Area home.
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  Speaker 7: And the confirmation we've gotten of this is from the
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  Speaker 7: Justice Department itself, them saying that the Justice Department secured
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  Speaker 7: a court-authorized search warrant and that Homeland Security investigators said
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  Speaker 7: would be the agency that is conducting this search this morning.
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  Speaker 7: We don't have much more indication on exactly what this is,
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  Speaker 7: but it appears to be some level of an immigration investigation,
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  Speaker 7: given that it's Homeland Security doing this, and also some
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  Speaker 7: of the statements that are coming out out of the
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  Speaker 7: White House, specifically by White House border czar Tom Homan.
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  Speaker 7: Here he is speaking to Fox News when asked about
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  Speaker 7: Representative Ilhan Omar.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I'm not going to get ahead of Todd Blanch
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  Speaker 8: on this or Secretary Mullen, but we know this investigation
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  Speaker 8: was ongoing for a while.
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  Speaker 5: There was a warrant executed this morning.
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  Speaker 8: So I'll leave it at that. Specifically, the investigation, I
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  Speaker 8: think I need to turn that over to Todd Blanch
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  Speaker 8: or Mark Wayne Mullen. I don't want to get ahead
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  Speaker 8: of them commenting on an ongoing investigation.
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  Speaker 7: Now, there have been allegations from Republicans and including from
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  Speaker 7: Tom Homan, the White House borders are, that there could
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  Speaker 7: be some level of immigration fraud. We don't have any
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  Speaker 7: of that substantiated at this time, and there haven't been
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  Speaker 7: any criminal charges or other. immigration enforcement actions against Representative Omar.
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  Speaker 7: So this is an ongoing situation and we're still seeing
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  Speaker 7: exactly what would come. But it is quite notable it's
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  Speaker 7: in the middle of an election season and that this
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  Speaker 7: is a sitting member of Congress running for reelection.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Well, there you go. And that sitting Congress
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  Speaker 2: gal may be sitting over in Somalia in a brand
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  Speaker 2: new hut when it's all said and done. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: good riddance to Ilhan Omar. We'll keep you updated. on
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  Speaker 2: the very latest there. So James Talofrico is back in
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  Speaker 2: the headlines, and he's back out on the campaign trail. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I have a couple of things to say about all
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  Speaker 2: of this. So first of all, the latest rumblings are
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  Speaker 2: that some of these MAGA citizen journalists went out there,
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  Speaker 2: called the mental health hospital, and gave them some sort
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  Speaker 2: of a code, and that code somehow allowed them to
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  Speaker 2: get the information about Tallarico, and they're alleging that Tallarico
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  Speaker 2: was indeed a patient at this mental hospital in Ohio
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  Speaker 2: called the Linder Center. So the Linder Center is now saying, no,
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  Speaker 2: this did not happen. He never was a patient at
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  Speaker 2: the hospital. And it's just simply not true. So a
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  Speaker 2: couple of things can be true here. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: it is possible that the– and based on the way
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  Speaker 2: it was presented by the reporters themselves– These citizen journalists
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  Speaker 2: broke the law. I mean, if how they describe this
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  Speaker 2: is how it all went down, they broke the law
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  Speaker 2: and committed felonies by misrepresenting who they were to obtain
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  Speaker 2: the private medical information of James Tallarico. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: it wouldn't matter if it was Ken Paxton. That is
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  Speaker 2: a crime. You're not allowed to do that. On the
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  Speaker 2: other side of the equation here is it's very possible
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  Speaker 2: that he was a patient there, and Talofrico is just
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  Speaker 2: outright lying to people's faces now. He's doubling down on
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  Speaker 2: this notion that he had the flu. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: anybody who's had the flu for two weeks. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: I had to go in and have a heart procedure,
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  Speaker 2: and I was back to work in, what, less than
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  Speaker 2: a week. So whatever happened, Talofrico's not being honest with
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  Speaker 2: the voters. And if I'm a voter in Texas, that's
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  Speaker 2: what bothers me about all of this, is that the
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  Speaker 2: guy's lying to you. He's lying to you. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a problem if he slapped crazy nuts,
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  Speaker 2: but just about everybody up on Capitol Hill has slapped
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  Speaker 2: crazy nuts. So that's not a bigger issue for me.
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  Speaker 2: It's a credibility issue. And I'm telling you, Tallarico's not
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  Speaker 2: being honest. He's not being honest about what he's been
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  Speaker 2: up to over the past couple of weeks. And we
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  Speaker 2: need to get to the bottom of that. All right,
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  Speaker 2: got to take a break.
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  Speaker 9: 901-260-5926.
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  Speaker 2: That's 901-260-5926. We'll be right back. We'll be right back.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, everybody. This is the Todd Stearns
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  Speaker 2: Radio Show. Busy weekend. President Trump out on the campaign trail.
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  Speaker 2: And ladies and gentlemen, I am feeling very confident that
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  Speaker 2: the polling data that's out there showing the president in
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  Speaker 2: a tailspin is just simply disinformation. I am not believing
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  Speaker 2: the polling data. Now, you may feel otherwise, and I
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  Speaker 2: would like to hear from you. I know there are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of folks that are very concerned about about
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  Speaker 2: the midterms, all of the polling data out there shows
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  Speaker 2: the Republicans losing the House and the Senate. I believe
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  Speaker 2: that the Republicans are going to maintain control of both
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  Speaker 2: the House and the Senate. And I'll explain why in
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  Speaker 2: just a moment. But the president came to Tennessee over
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  Speaker 2: the weekend, and one of the big things he was
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  Speaker 2: excited about was how safe it is on the streets
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  Speaker 2: of Memphis, Tennessee. Cut number one.
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  Speaker 3: But I have a guy talking to me that's a
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  Speaker 3: friend of mine. He said, you know, I've been. in
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  Speaker 3: Memphis for years. I was leaving. It was just absolutely leaving.
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  Speaker 10: He said, the job you've done in Memphis, does anyone
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  Speaker 10: have any idea what you've done?
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  Speaker 3: You've made Memphis like a safe city.
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  Speaker 10: We got rid of 12,000 career criminals. And my favorite stat,
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  Speaker 10: maybe of any stat, 2% of the people create 91%
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  Speaker 10: of the crime.
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  Speaker 3: We can handle 2%.
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  Speaker 10: We couldn't handle if it was 50%, but we can
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  Speaker 10: handle 2%.
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  Speaker 3: And we got them out of here. We got them out,
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  Speaker 3: and you have a safe Memphis.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and let me tell you something, and all of
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  Speaker 2: our Memphis listeners, you guys know, and granted, and hear
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  Speaker 2: me on this, because the media loves to mess around
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  Speaker 2: with this. And they say, but people are still getting shot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's true. But the crimes we're talking about, carjackings, the
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  Speaker 2: armed robberies, all of those things are just have been
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  Speaker 2: pretty much eliminated. I mean, it's remarkable. And yes, there
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  Speaker 2: are people shooting each other in some of these really
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  Speaker 2: bad neighborhoods. No doubt about that. But I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 2: by and large, this is a very different city now.
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  Speaker 2: as a result of the surge of the military coming
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  Speaker 2: in and doing what the Democrats who control Memphis simply
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  Speaker 2: refuse to do. And I'm just telling you, thank you, Mr. President.
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  Speaker 2: You walk around the streets of Memphis, Tennessee, people are
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  Speaker 2: going to tell you, wow, we're glad the president did
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  Speaker 2: what he did. And hear me on this for a moment,
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  Speaker 2: all right? Because The other side will say, well, Memphis
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  Speaker 2: has become a military occupation. Not at all. Not at all.
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  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, when you do see the
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  Speaker 2: National Guard troops winding around, they're having a good time.
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  Speaker 2: They're posing for photographs with people, and their presence is
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: allowing the Memphis police officers to get out there and
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: do their jobs. And by the way, just like many
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: other major American cities here in Memphis, our police department's down,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I think, about 500 officers, 500 or 600 officers from
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: their full complement. So people who showed up at the
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: rally were really excited. And let me just paint the
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: picture for you. It was a nasty, rainy day. It
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: was college football, and SEC football is huge in the
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: state of Tennessee. So a lot of people were someplace else.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: The arena in Clarksville had about, I don't know, seats about, what,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: 6,000 people? They had 4,500 folks. Now, people were taking
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: pictures of the empty seats, and the White House rapid
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: response put out a statement saying, yeah, all of those
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: seats were, the view was you could not see anything,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: so that's why they didn't have people sitting there. So
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: we're talking about, what, 1,500 seats were people, I mean,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: 1,500 empty seats. So you can say whatever you want
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to say about that, and there may be a good
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: reason for it, but I'm just telling you right now,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: people are just thankful for what the president has done.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Cut number two, please. What do you think you would
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: tell President Trump if you could talk to him?
• 23:04
  Speaker 11: One thing I would say is he's doing a great job.
• 23:07
  Speaker 11: A lot of people don't realize how it was under
• 23:09
  Speaker 11: the last two administrations. And because of that, we're having
• 23:13
  Speaker 11: a better time now. Even though gas prices are a
• 23:16
  Speaker 11: little high because of the war, they're still a whole
• 23:18
  Speaker 11: lot lower than they were under Biden and President Obama.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Thank you for speaking truth.
• 23:24
  Speaker 12: So I guess what's another difference you would say between
• 23:27
  Speaker 12: when Obama was in office versus like now?
• 23:30
  Speaker 11: Well, Obama was more about what he could do to
• 23:34
  Speaker 11: help his friends. President Trump is about what he can
• 23:37
  Speaker 11: do to help the people.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. I mean, they're speaking truth. Here is
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: another Tennessee patriot that was interviewed outside the rally, and
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: people were lined up for hours and hours in the
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: rain waiting to get inside. Cut number three, please.
• 23:54
  Speaker 13: I think he's the best president we ever had, and
• 23:56
  Speaker 13: I've been around 71 years, so I can actually testify
• 23:58
  Speaker 13: to that. So actually, the last president I actually got
• 24:01
  Speaker 13: to meet was Ronald Reagan back in when he's laying
• 24:04
  Speaker 13: a wreath at the tomb of a soldier.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: President Trump's way better.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: He is.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Love President Trump. A lot of people do. Let's go
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: to the phones. David is listening to us in San Francisco. David,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
• 24:19
  Speaker 14: Well, yeah, I heard you talking about the polling. You know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 14: it's interesting. If you look in history, ancient Rome, you know,
• 24:29
  Speaker 14: you had Nero fiddling while Rome burned. You had Caligula,
• 24:33
  Speaker 14: who was very interested in killing people. And they would
• 24:37
  Speaker 14: toss the Christians to the lions, actually as a blood
• 24:41
  Speaker 14: sport for political gain. They were trying to scare people
• 24:47
  Speaker 14: into voting and supporting Caligula. And if you didn't support Caligula,
• 24:52
  Speaker 14: you'd be tossed to the lions next. So Christians really
• 24:56
  Speaker 14: should be shocked about using the death penalty just before
• 24:59
  Speaker 14: Election Day. And so the whole idea.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Well, hold on here, David. I'm going to give you
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: plenty of time to make your argument here, but let
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: me just correct you there. You're talking about the execution
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: of Nadal Hassan. Is that what we're talking about here?
• 25:16
  Speaker 14: Oh, not just that. If you think about the FCC chairman,
• 25:22
  Speaker 14: you know, says that Pete Hegseth gets to make the
• 25:25
  Speaker 14: decisions So the FCC, his whole job is to decide
• 25:31
  Speaker 14: whether or not blood sport is a good idea for
• 25:35
  Speaker 14: public consumption.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Well, David, hold on. David, hold on. Hold on just
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: a moment. First of all, the execution is scheduled for December,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: which is like an entire month after the election. So
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: for you to suggest this is somehow because of the election,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: that's just not accurate. The execution of Hassan is scheduled
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: for after the election. Also, President Trump now saying he's
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: not sure he hasn't made a final decision on whether
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: or not that will be live-streamed as the War Secretary
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: originally announced.
• 26:09
  Speaker 14: Well, I could stand corrected. I could stand corrected. I
• 26:18
  Speaker 14: guess that's grammatically correct. But the idea that Hegseth, The
• 26:23
  Speaker 14: guy that's murdered, I think he's laughing about he's killed
• 26:27
  Speaker 14: 182 different of these little boats with no judicial coverage,
• 26:32
  Speaker 14: no proof that these were drug boats or anything else.
• 26:37
  Speaker 14: He gets to decide. The FCC all of a sudden says, oh,
• 26:42
  Speaker 14: we'll let Hegseth decide. So you take a mass murderer
• 26:47
  Speaker 14: like Hegseth, and you allow him to decide whether or not,
• 26:51
  Speaker 14: not just America, but the world gets to watch an execution.
• 26:56
  Speaker 14: So this is pretty creepy, and I think all Christians
• 26:59
  Speaker 14: should be shocked at it.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: David, I think you ought to be shocked by the
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: fact that Nadal Hassan, in the name of the so-called
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: religion of peace, waged jihad at Fort Hood, slaughtering 13
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: innocent people, seriously injuring 30 others. One of the people
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: that was killed happened to be a pregnant woman who
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: was shouting, my baby, my baby, as he killed her
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: and her unborn child. I mean, we're talking about a
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: monster here who was sentenced to death, and that sentence
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: is being carried out. And by the way, Pete Hegseth
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: did not sentence this guy to death.
• 27:39
  Speaker 14: Well, again, the opportunity for Christians... to prove the validity
• 27:45
  Speaker 14: of Jesus' teachings, that executions are wrong, and that if
• 27:51
  Speaker 14: the Muslims, who are also in the family of Abraham,
• 27:58
  Speaker 14: are not living up to the standards of Moses, they're
• 28:01
  Speaker 14: not living up to the standards of Jesus, and they're
• 28:05
  Speaker 14: going off on a wild tangent, it's still important for
• 28:09
  Speaker 14: Christians to live up to the standards of Jesus. that
• 28:13
  Speaker 14: an eye for an eye is not the new covenant.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is. As a matter of fact, it is, David.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: And I want to correct you on something else as well.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: It was not Pete Hegseth who sentenced this man to death.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: That was decided by the military. So under the Uniform
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Code of Military Justice, that's how the process works. So
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the secretary could recommend an execution order, and oversee the implementation,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: but he's overseeing the implementation of a sentence that has
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: been handed down. Now, as for the Bible... The Bible
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: is very clear that both in the Old and the
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: New Testament that it recognizes the government authority to punish wrongdoing.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: If you look at Romans chapter 13, verse 4, if
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: you want to go back multiple passages of Scripture in
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: the Old Testament, also advocate for the death penalty if
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: someone takes a life. And in this case, I think
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: that guy certainly meets that level.
• 29:21
  Speaker 14: Well, if you remember, Paul was the one that got
• 29:26
  Speaker 14: about two-thirds of the Bible. You remember, Jesus is only
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: in about one-third of the New Testament. Two-thirds of it
• 29:35
  Speaker 14: was written by a guy who not only never saw him,
• 29:39
  Speaker 14: but he was a martyr. was a tax collector who
• 29:44
  Speaker 14: got a vision and suddenly became the author of about
• 29:48
  Speaker 14: two-thirds of the New Testament.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: That's right, and it is the inspired and errant word
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: of God, which is how I view Holy Scripture. But David,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I want to go back to something here. And again,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: The Bible is very clear when it comes to executions.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: And quite frankly, we need this in the country, if
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: nothing else, as a deterrent for anyone out there who's
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: thinking about committing this sort of crime. I've got to
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: leave it there, David. Appreciate the call. And again, ladies
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: and gentlemen, come armed with facts, and we can have
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: that conversation. 901-260-5926 is our telephone number. That's 901-260-5926. And
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: let me say this. Speaker Mike Johnson is now pushing
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: back and saying, hey, look, maybe this does not need
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: to be broadcast on national TV or live streamed because
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: it might encourage others to wage jihad on Americans. Quite frankly,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: This guy should have been put to death a long
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: time ago, a long time ago. And I don't know
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: about you, but I am tired of footing the bill
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: for these people like Krista Pike in Tennessee on death
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: row for 30 years when she admitted to doing what
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: she did, and she has absolutely zero remorse. So what
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: are we waiting for? 901-260-5926, our telephone number. That's 901-260-5926.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: This is the Todd Stern Show. All right. Welcome back, everybody.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: This is the Todd Stearns Radio Show. By the way, Dylan,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: over the weekend, this was the first weekend I've been
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: home with nothing to do in like weeks. So I
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: just sort of vegged out. Did go to the Memphis
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Tigers football game, though.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: I saw that you went there.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: That looks fun. It was a lot of fun. Love
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: the new stadium. And it really is an experience. If
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: you haven't been, Those of you in the Memphis area,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: you got to go. It was the Battle of the Bones,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: which is the big rivalry between the University of Alabama, Birmingham,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: and the University of Memphis.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good rivalry for Memphis. I like it.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: The trophy is basically a rack of ribs.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, which obviously we have to claim that because
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: we are the Memphis Tigers.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: That's right. I came in here talking smack about our barbecue,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: and we had to– We had to show him a
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: thing or two.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we never take that too well.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: No, no, not at all, not at all. Anyway, great job,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: University of Memphis, and that was a lot of fun.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: But I watched the Nick Saban special on Netflix or
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Disney or one of those things, and it was fascinating.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been actually wanting to watch that because, I mean,
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: obviously he's a legendary coach, but the ways that he
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: coached players and other coaches, the relationships he had, it
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: was something different. You're never going to get that probably again.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: It was, I was just, you're going to love it.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: And it's multiple episodes. I think I'm like through episode
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: number two. I kept falling asleep, but that's nothing on
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: this special. I was just exhausted. Every 30 minutes, I'm
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: out like a light.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: You know, that's why I like the Memphis Tigers head
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: coach too, because, you know, he coached under Nick Saban.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: And I see a lot of Nick Saban in that coach,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: which is probably why I like him.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Coach Huff.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Coach Huff.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, we have breaking news to share.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Breaking news now on the Todd Starnes Show.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Those of you in Memphis, Pesci's Italian Deli is in
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: fact open today. So if you want your meatball fix,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: you can head on down. I'm not sure that was
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: a legitimate net. No, you know what? It is a
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: major national news story.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: We paid for it.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I was going to be distracted for the rest of
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: the show. So I had to text the poor guy.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: He literally makes the meatballs as he listens to our podcast.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: That's awesome. I feel like now we kind of should
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: get it. We owe it to ourselves to get some meatballs.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. We need to do that.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: On your dime, of course.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, of course. But going back to Saban, you know,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: it's an amazing story, but the guy, you know, he
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: was not always Nick Saban. You know, he had some
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: really tough times at LSU and at, oh, by the way,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Love that.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: What happened there? Yeah.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: I love that. I love that LSU lost in that way, too.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Going for two.
• 34:37
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, that was remarkable. I mean, good for what
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Kentucky's now. Five and one.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Five and one. Never heard of this team before. Five
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: and one.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, between Kentucky and Vanderbilt, Vanderbilt's like
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: the Alabama of that group. But, you know.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Vanderbilt.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: South Carolina put them in there.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: It was a crazy SEC football weekend. That's a whole
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: different conversation.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Just across the board. What, Oklahoma beating Texas?
• 35:04
  Speaker 16: Yep.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: And, I mean, it's just– it was insane. And then
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Tennessee almost got– look, if Tennessee had lost to Arkansas,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: that would have been it for Coach Heim.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: No, you would never hear the end of that. And
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: then Georgia-Alabama, that was a great game.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: Crazy.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I don't want to irritate– we've got a lot of
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Georgia listeners.
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: But there is some debate over whether or not Alabama
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: got ripped off.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: I would join that debate, but I also don't want
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: to get in trouble by the Georgia fans.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I'm just– I'm just telling you that was ferocious, but
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: that was a very questionable play. I will say this though,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: through the years, Alabama has always, um, the refs have
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: always been kind to Alabama.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: So maybe a little bit of payback here.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it might be.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: But you know, who knows? I never seen the Alabama
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: coach get that angry. I don't know if you saw
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: the videos of him. He actually was very emotional, like
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: emoting when that play happened. And then afterwards, he was like, well,
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: we can't let it come down to that one play.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting about Saban. Do you know how
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Saban became one of the most important coaches, one of
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: the most powerful coaches of all time in college sports?
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: He went to go see a sports psychiatrist. And they interviewed,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: they brought him to the sports psychiatrist. And when you
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: see the guy, he looks like a wizard. The long
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: white hair.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, he and Saban met up, I think, at
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Michigan State, if I'm remembering the documentary correctly, because I
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: nodded off a couple of times. But I'm going back
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: and watching the rest of it tonight. But the psychiatrist
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: changed his mindset about how you play the game, and
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: the rest is history. And it's really shocking how something
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: that simple made Saban Nick Saban. Not to mention his wife,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Miss Terry. And I think I'm more scared of her
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: than Coach Saban. Hang tight, everybody. Got to take a
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: quick break. We'll be right back.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: From Memphis, Tennessee, it's Common Sense Conservative Commentary from Todd Starnes.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: And happy Columbus Day, America. Welcome to the Todd Starnes
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Radio Program. Great to have you with us today. Hour
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: two of the big show. Coming up a little bit later,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I'm excited for you to hear this. We have a
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: copy of our C-SPAN book special. We filmed this at
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Lancaster Baptist Church in northern Los Angeles County, what, about
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: a week or so ago, and it aired yesterday on
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: C-SPAN's book channel and just had an absolute great time
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: defending President Trump on, of all channels, C-SPAN. So, We're
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: going to play some of that a little bit later
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: on in the next hour of the program. Right now, though,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: we're following the breaking news coming out of our nation's
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: capital where federal agents staged a pre-dawn raid at the
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: home of Congresswoman Ilhan Omar. And they were bringing out,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: agents were bringing out all sorts of boxes and suitcases. Clearly,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: they are looking for something. Now, Ilhan Omar has not
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: been arrested. She has not been charged. But we will
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: keep you updated on that story. I want to go
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: right away to our Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line and say
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: a very nice hello to Wendy Patrick, who is a
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: great Newsmax columnist and also a great legal mind. Wendy,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: hope you're doing well today.
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: It's always a pleasure to join you, Todd. It's been
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: too long.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: It has.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Look, you've been gallivanting all over the world, so we're
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: just glad you're back with us.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Wendy, let's talk about what happened today in Washington. A
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: lot of people are chattering about this. Ilhan Omar is enraged.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Rashida Tlaib accusing President Trump of being vindictive. What do
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: you think has going on here, and what do you
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: think the feds were looking for?
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll tell you what, Todd, great questions. One thing
• 39:36
  Speaker 9: we do when we don't know what evidence they're looking
• 39:38
  Speaker 9: for is we look at the circumstantial evidence, if you will,
• 39:42
  Speaker 9: that surrounds the raid. Now, it wasn't really a raid
• 39:45
  Speaker 9: in the sense of breaking down doors and detaining people.
• 39:48
  Speaker 9: There's no evidence she was there. But Todd, it is
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: interesting that it was pre-dawn, as you mentioned, and that
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: could have been because the authorities wanted to get in
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: and out without causing too much disruption to the neighborhood.
• 40:00
  Speaker 9: But regarding what they're looking for, you know, we have
• 40:02
  Speaker 9: heard some reporting that it might have something to do
• 40:04
  Speaker 9: with fraud and immigration documents. But as you mentioned, carrying
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: out things like boxes and suitcases, something has to be
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: in those items. They found something of interest. Now, I
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: always start with the official reports. And we've got the
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: Department of Justice, the DOJ, confirming that HSI had a
• 40:24
  Speaker 9: judicially authorized search warrant. So there was no probable cause
• 40:27
  Speaker 9: to be able to execute a search. And that it's
• 40:29
  Speaker 9: part of an ongoing federal criminal investigation. But you're also
• 40:33
  Speaker 9: correct that without an arrest or any type of charge,
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: We just don't know whether as a result of this raid,
• 40:40
  Speaker 9: this search warrant being executed, we're now going to be
• 40:42
  Speaker 9: moving into something more substantial. And, Todd, we would be
• 40:45
  Speaker 9: remiss if we didn't talk about the timing less than
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: a month before the midterms.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: That is interesting. And, you know, Paula, everything is always
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: political at this stage of the game. I want to
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: share this. This is from Fox News' reporting. They're just
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: posting that all of this stems from a criminal fraud
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: investigation into immigration paperwork, which was actually filled out by
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: her late father when she was a child. So I'm wondering, Wendy,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: from a legal standpoint, can a child be responsible for
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: any sort of fraud committed by the parent in this case?
• 41:24
  Speaker 9: Normally, you see it the exact opposite, don't you? We're
• 41:26
  Speaker 9: always looking at when shall we hold parents responsible for
• 41:30
  Speaker 9: the conduct of their children. We don't see it the
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: other way. Now, that may be what they're looking for
• 41:35
  Speaker 9: in this particular instance, but there may be other circumstances
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: that would have caused them to execute the search where
• 41:41
  Speaker 9: they did. I thought it was interesting that it was
• 41:44
  Speaker 9: her D.C. home, not her home back in her own jurisdiction.
• 41:48
  Speaker 9: It was also interesting that this was something that apparently
• 41:51
  Speaker 9: was done at least partially in the cover of darkness.
• 41:55
  Speaker 9: Why wouldn't that be something that was done over a
• 41:58
  Speaker 9: weekend instead of a Monday morning, which seems like a
• 42:00
  Speaker 9: pretty busy time to be doing this type of a thing.
• 42:04
  Speaker 9: But again, you know what we're doing? We're trying to
• 42:05
  Speaker 9: read tea leaves, Todd. We don't have as much as
• 42:08
  Speaker 9: we need. And the explanation that I heard as well,
• 42:12
  Speaker 9: the potential fraud and immigration paperwork by her father is,
• 42:15
  Speaker 9: wouldn't explain the location of the search. We're missing the tie-in,
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: but I mean, you know, in the news, we like
• 42:21
  Speaker 9: sort of speculating and trying to figure out what we
• 42:23
  Speaker 9: can learn behind the scenes, but we just don't have
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: enough to be able to make that connection right now.
• 42:30
  Speaker 9: It is something that is optics-wise at least concerning in
• 42:33
  Speaker 9: terms of its proximity to the midterm, which makes me think, Todd,
• 42:37
  Speaker 9: we're going to hear an explanation sooner rather than later
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: to avoid allegations of trying to ruin her chances at
• 42:42
  Speaker 9: the polls.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: You know, one of the other things that's interesting here
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: is that it's not just Homeland Security, which I'm surmising
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: here would involve the immigration part of it. But the
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: DOJ is also involved here, and they're confirming there is
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: a criminal component to all of this. Fox News is
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: bringing up the fact that there have been a lot
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: of questions about the assets that she and her husband have.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Now $ 125, 000, which is a multi-million dollar drop from the
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: year before, about $ 29. 9 million difference there. So you have
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: to wonder, okay, are they looking at that as well,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: especially with the number of boxes and suitcases they were
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: bringing out of that house today?
• 43:31
  Speaker 9: You know, you and I have talked about this in
• 43:33
  Speaker 9: the past, as have so many other outlets. When you
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: look at, gosh, who knew this was such a lucrative
• 43:38
  Speaker 9: way to make money, looking at the net worth of
• 43:40
  Speaker 9: this couple a couple of years ago versus today. People
• 43:44
  Speaker 9: have been dismissing that, making jokes about it. But now
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: that we actually have a search warrant having been executed,
• 43:50
  Speaker 9: perhaps it lends a little more credibility to the questions
• 43:54
  Speaker 9: that were being asked. Now, she may have answers to
• 43:56
  Speaker 9: those questions. They may be able to explain away some
• 44:00
  Speaker 9: of these circumstances. But I do also wonder, you know,
• 44:05
  Speaker 9: is it much of that kept online now or stored electronically?
• 44:08
  Speaker 9: Whereas it appears, if you're looking at boxes, were they files?
• 44:12
  Speaker 9: Were they bank records? You know, we have to keep
• 44:14
  Speaker 9: all of our information for a certain amount of years.
• 44:16
  Speaker 9: It does seem, the fact that it's linked to a
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: criminal federal investigation, that it could very well be anything
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: under that umbrella. But, you know, why not at least,
• 44:26
  Speaker 9: you know, we're speculating that it might have something to
• 44:28
  Speaker 9: do with the allegations that have been made, as you mentioned,
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: over the last several months.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Wendy Patrick on our Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line today. Wendy,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I want to switch gears here. We are in the
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: homestretch here from this midterm election, a contentious midterm election,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: all sorts of crazy stories. One of them from Texas
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: with James Tallarico, who has now made a miraculous discovery.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: And if we are to believe what they were telling us,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: 12 days this guy was bedridden with the flu, yet
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: he pops up, doesn't look like he's lost a single pound,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: and says he's alive and well. Meanwhile, you have some
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: MAGA citizen journalists who say they reached out to this
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: mental health hospital in Ohio, and they say that someone
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: at the mental health hospital told them that Tallarico was,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: in fact, a patient. And, Wendy, I'm catching a lot
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: of blowback from MAGA World because I pointed out that
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: the way those citizen journalists described how they got that
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: information was a crime, was a criminal offense they have committed.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: by misrepresenting who they were to get that information, if
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: in fact all of this went down the way they
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: say it went down. But what do you make of
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: all the controversy surrounding Tallarico?
• 45:46
  Speaker 9: You know, Todd, that's why you make the big bucks
• 45:48
  Speaker 9: is you're not afraid to get a little bit of
• 45:50
  Speaker 9: blowback by saying what's on your mind. That's also why
• 45:53
  Speaker 9: you have so many followers. But look, I like you
• 45:56
  Speaker 9: and our listeners and viewers followed it with much interest.
• 45:59
  Speaker 9: You know, when you're a candidate, silence is not golden.
• 46:02
  Speaker 9: You don't go missing in action and absence does not
• 46:05
  Speaker 9: make the heart grow fonder. This is a candidate that
• 46:08
  Speaker 9: was doing much better than expected. it wasn't exactly the
• 46:12
  Speaker 9: kind of circumstances that you would think a candidate would
• 46:15
  Speaker 9: shy away from. Now, I understand that he popped up
• 46:18
  Speaker 9: and I understand he looks fine, but remember during that time,
• 46:21
  Speaker 9: at least near the beginning, there were a couple of
• 46:23
  Speaker 9: virtual appearances. You remember he was blowing his nose, he
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: was coughing. If he was at some kind of a
• 46:31
  Speaker 9: mental facility or a health facility of some kind, God
• 46:35
  Speaker 9: bless him for getting the help that he needs. If
• 46:38
  Speaker 9: that were true, you would expect that his team would
• 46:40
  Speaker 9: come forward with some transparency. That has to be one
• 46:44
  Speaker 9: of the questions that constituents are asking because of credibility. Now,
• 46:49
  Speaker 9: I also think it's important because it's such a close race.
• 46:51
  Speaker 9: It wasn't supposed to be a race this close, Todd.
• 46:54
  Speaker 9: And in that respect, it's similar to other races around
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: the country where you have Democratic candidates doing much better
• 47:02
  Speaker 9: than expected in red or purple districts. So I'm sure
• 47:06
  Speaker 9: we're going to get to the bottom of this. And
• 47:08
  Speaker 9: then the question is going to be, would the lack
• 47:10
  Speaker 9: of transparency lend itself to a judgment problem or credibility
• 47:15
  Speaker 9: problem or both moving forward if he wants to achieve
• 47:19
  Speaker 9: this office? Yes, indeed.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And again, when you look at Texas, and I'm
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: not surprised that it is that close because poor Ken
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Paxton is fighting. First of all, he's not a great candidate.
• 47:31
  Speaker 16: All right.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: He's not a good campaigner. And that's just the way
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: it is with some of these guys. But that being said,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: you've got the establishment Republican Party in Texas working against him.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: John Cornyn, George W. Bush, they're out there helping other
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: candidates but not giving Paxton any help at all. And
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: I was reading one report. It was Tom Tillis. Tom
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Tillis from North Carolina said that there are at least
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: 30 Republican senators up on Capitol Hill. that are actively
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: working against the President's America First agenda. And so I'm
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: really wondering, Wendy, if a lot of these close races
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: are really self-inflicted as a result of this Republican infighting
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: that's happening.
• 48:15
  Speaker 9: Such a great point, Todd. And that's one of the
• 48:17
  Speaker 9: reasons that President Trump was trying to give Ken Paxton
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: some help. recently by appearing there because the president lends
• 48:24
  Speaker 9: his enthusiasm to lackluster candidates. You know, not everybody running
• 48:28
  Speaker 9: for office is as energetic and enthusiastic and interesting as
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: President Trump. You know, like him or hate him, he's
• 48:35
  Speaker 9: an interesting candidate. And there again, there's a Freudian slip.
• 48:38
  Speaker 9: He's not a candidate. He's not on the ballot. But
• 48:40
  Speaker 9: that's his reminder of to the constituencies is pretend he's
• 48:45
  Speaker 9: on the ballot. So that's why he's crisscrossing as a surrogate.
• 48:49
  Speaker 9: Talk about a role reversal. He's a surrogate for a
• 48:52
  Speaker 9: lot of these candidates that otherwise don't have the kind
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: of support you might expect they would because of the
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: makeup of their districts, despite, and you mentioned a good point, despite, unfortunately,
• 49:03
  Speaker 9: some of their colleagues and definitely their detractors working against
• 49:07
  Speaker 9: them in those locations.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's windy overall. If you want to put on
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: your prognosticator hat, how do you think it is going
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: to go for the midterms?
• 49:17
  Speaker 9: Well, I think that the fact that so many... Democratic
• 49:20
  Speaker 9: socialists are now being more open about their beliefs may
• 49:24
  Speaker 9: give more moderate Democratic voters pause. I think had there
• 49:28
  Speaker 9: not been that uprising, there may have been a more
• 49:30
  Speaker 9: of a blue wave than we're probably going to end
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: up seeing. I don't think the ongoing war in Iran
• 49:35
  Speaker 9: is going to help Republican candidates. But when it comes
• 49:38
  Speaker 9: to alternatives, there may not be this belief that voting
• 49:41
  Speaker 9: Democrats going to lower the price of the pump. So
• 49:44
  Speaker 9: it's probably going to come down, in a word, Todd,
• 49:47
  Speaker 9: to turnout. And that's what you really see both sides
• 49:50
  Speaker 9: focusing on right now.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Wendy Patrick, always great analysis. And it's great to see
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: you again. Glad you're doing well. And we look forward
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: to getting you back on next week, Wendy.
• 50:02
  Speaker 9: Thank you, Todd. See you then.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: All right. The great Wendy Patrick, everybody. And be sure
• 50:06
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• 50:10
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• 50:14
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• 50:16
  Speaker 2: to have a big win for Republicans in the midterms?
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Or do you think the Democrats have the momentum right now?
• 50:23
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• 51:42
  Speaker 2: This is the Todd Stearns Radio Show. You are not
• 51:46
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• 51:49
  Speaker 2: So we're going to have to go back in the
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Todd Stearns Radio Show time machine. We're cranking it up today.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: We're going to go back to when Ilhan Omar, and
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: by the way, for the longest time it was Ilhan,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: but now they're calling her Ilhan. I just can't do
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: the Ilhan Omar thing. Anyway, she was talking about World
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: War II. And, of course, World War II, it's got
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: the Roman numerals, right? Here's Ilhan Omar talking about WWII.
• 52:21
  Speaker 16: The last time the Alien Enemies Act was invoked, it
• 52:24
  Speaker 16: was used to detain and deport German, Japanese, Italian immigrants
• 52:31
  Speaker 16: during World War XI. Oh, two.
• 52:34
  Speaker 11: Sorry.
• 52:35
  Speaker 16: One of the most shameful chapters of America.
• 52:37
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: There we go. She called World War II World War XI.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: So Bill Malugin over at Fox is sharing this intel.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: The federal criminal investigation, the fraud investigation into Omar, it's
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: officially called World War XI. You've got to love it.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: So well done. You know, well done Justice Department. At
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: least they've got a little sense of humor. So there
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: you go. We'll keep you updated on any sorts of developments.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: But let me just say this. Going back to what
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Wendy Patrick said, there's more to this. This is not
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: just about something her father may have done or not
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: done with immigration papers. There's something much bigger at stake here.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: And we're going to keep you updated on that. 901-260-5926,
• 53:32
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• 53:35
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• 53:47
  Speaker 2: believe any of the negative polling data. All of those
• 53:51
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• 53:56
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• 53:59
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• 54:02
  Speaker 2: And you cannot succumb to that. Can't do it. Let's
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: go to John in Kentucky. Hey, John, what's going on?
• 54:11
  Speaker 17: Hey there, Mr.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Todd.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: You know what?
• 54:13
  Speaker 17: You know, you made some really good points. You know what?
• 54:16
  Speaker 17: You can put all the facts in front of these
• 54:18
  Speaker 17: democratic socialists or whatever you want to call them in
• 54:21
  Speaker 17: these colleges and universities. You can show them the facts.
• 54:25
  Speaker 17: They killed Charlie Kirk for it. You put everything out
• 54:29
  Speaker 17: there as far as why they can't allow these democratic socialists,
• 54:35
  Speaker 17: these communists to hold office. Todd, you've been saying it
• 54:39
  Speaker 17: for years. It's our country to lose. And you know what?
• 54:43
  Speaker 17: The greatest danger to this republic is the uninformed electorate,
• 54:46
  Speaker 17: now the informed electorate or disinformed electorate. They allow this
• 54:51
  Speaker 17: country to go the direction that a lot of these
• 54:53
  Speaker 17: establishment media are going to do. We're going to lose
• 54:55
  Speaker 17: President Trump. They're going to impeach him. And there's a
• 54:58
  Speaker 17: saying out there, and I don't know, and I'll listen
• 55:00
  Speaker 17: for your comment. You can vote your way into socialism,
• 55:04
  Speaker 17: but you're going to have to shoot your way out.
• 55:07
  Speaker 17: And thank God we have a Constitution, Todd, and thank
• 55:09
  Speaker 17: God we got you. And this is going out to
• 55:11
  Speaker 17: all those listeners. They probably don't really care what I
• 55:13
  Speaker 17: have to say, but it's your country to lose. And
• 55:17
  Speaker 17: I don't know how many people that have fled these
• 55:19
  Speaker 17: communist countries have been shouting at the top of their
• 55:22
  Speaker 17: lungs about it. Go down to Florida, Cuban exile. But
• 55:27
  Speaker 17: you know what? You fail to listen to these people.
• 55:30
  Speaker 17: You win with your country.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: John, we got to leave it there. It's a great point.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: And let me just say this. They're not going to
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: shut us up. I can promise you that right now.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: All right. Hang tight, everybody. Got to take a quick break.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: We'll be right back. All right. Welcome back. You know, Dylan,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: we had an actor on from the Memphis area. The
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: musical talent in Memphis, Tennessee, I will put it up
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: against anything coming out of Nashville right now.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's insane. Very talented young people here.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: And it's just the authenticity level. You know what we're
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: going to do? We're going to try to play maybe
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: later on this hour if we have time. We're going
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: to play the new musical A Million Dollar Quartet, which
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: is like Johnny Cash, Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, and Carl Perkins.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: It's a true story. And we're going to play you.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: This kid is playing Elvis. and the performance is just
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: off the charts. We're going to let you hear a
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: little bit of that a little bit later on. In
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: the meantime, there is a crazy story coming out of
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Arizona to tell you about. Our good friends over at
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: First Liberty Institute, they're all over these kinds of stories,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: and I want to go right away to the Patriot
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Mobile Newsmaker line and say hello to Garrett Bell joining us.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Associate Counsel there at First Liberty Institute. Garrett, hope you're
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: doing well today.
• 57:13
  Speaker 18: Doing well, yes. Thank you for having me, Todd.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, let's talk about what the heck is
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: going on down in Tucson, Arizona. You guys are representing
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: a local resident, and there is a big problem at
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: the annual Winter Haven Festival of Lights. Tell us about it.
• 57:33
  Speaker 18: That's right, and you got it totally right when you
• 57:35
  Speaker 18: said it's crazy stuff. Our client, David Hoffman, last December,
• 57:41
  Speaker 18: December 2025, motivated by his religious beliefs, attended the Winter
• 57:46
  Speaker 18: Haven Festival of Life in Tucson, Arizona, with the intentions
• 57:50
  Speaker 18: of sharing his faith through voluntary conversation. The festival is
• 57:56
  Speaker 18: held on city property. It's open to the public. They
• 57:59
  Speaker 18: don't charge for admission. Attendees can easily walk in, walk out.
• 58:05
  Speaker 18: They walk around and look at Christmas light displays, listen
• 58:08
  Speaker 18: to musical acts. Shoot, they can even hop on a
• 58:12
  Speaker 18: pedal pub, if you know what that is, like this
• 58:14
  Speaker 18: 15-foot pub on wheels where you pedal and you drink
• 58:19
  Speaker 18: and there's players' music. So you can talk about sports,
• 58:22
  Speaker 18: you can talk about politics, weather, but according to the
• 58:26
  Speaker 18: city's policy, you cannot talk about its faith. The city's
• 58:31
  Speaker 18: policy prohibits all political, religious, commercial materials or messaging in
• 58:36
  Speaker 18: the event, and it requires any of that speech to
• 58:39
  Speaker 18: be done in this small, confined, designated speech zone set
• 58:44
  Speaker 18: up outside of the festival perimeter.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: So let me jump in here because I have a
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: couple of questions here. So basically he's a Christian evangelist
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: out there sharing his faith. One of these guys, and
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: I think this is important for our audience because I
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: think we've all seen these folks, and they get out
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: there with the huge signs that have pretty shocking and
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: graphic material. and they're wandering up and down, and they're
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: shouting and preaching with megaphones or whatever. Is that what
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: he was doing, or was this something else?
• 59:19
  Speaker 18: Yeah, that's what makes this really wild. This is not that.
• 59:24
  Speaker 18: This is not even amplified speech. This is David Hoffman saying,
• 59:30
  Speaker 18: handing out cards with a gospel message on them to
• 59:33
  Speaker 18: people who are willing to take them. They don't chase
• 59:35
  Speaker 18: people down. They just hold out a hand, and if
• 59:38
  Speaker 18: the person wants to take it, they can take it.
• 59:40
  Speaker 18: And then he's having conversations with those who are drawn in,
• 59:44
  Speaker 18: who take a card and want to talk about the gospel.
• 59:47
  Speaker 18: He's having that one-on-one conversation with them. And yet, even still,
• 59:51
  Speaker 18: for doing this, he is surrounded by officers, and he
• 59:55
  Speaker 18: is told under the threat of arrest that he has
• 59:58
  Speaker 18: to leave the event. In fact, at one point, Hoffman
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 18: asked the officers, what happens if someone comes up to
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 18: me and wants to know how can I become saved?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 18: And guess what? The officer said, nope, can't respond to him.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 18: If anything, you can say, well, if you want to
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 18: have that conversation, we've got to have it outside of
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 18: the perimeter.
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  Speaker 2: This is really shocking. So you guys have been dealing
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: with this for decades. For quite some time now, and
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: I understand the lawsuit's been filed, have you heard at
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: all from the city of Tucson? Was this a simple mistake,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: maybe a miscommunication, or are they standing by their decision?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 18: From what we know, they're standing by their decision, right?
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 18: We sent a demand letter in December of 2025 as
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 18: it was happening during the festival, and we asked the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 18: city to abide by the law and allow Hoffman, and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 18: those that he was with to share their faith during
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 18: the festival. And to this day, the city has not responded.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 18: So either they're not taking him seriously, they're not taking
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 18: us seriously, but I guarantee you now that there is
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 18: a lawsuit filed in federal court, they'll take it seriously. Well,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 18: we hope so, at least.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this is just shocking. And you guys,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: as part of the lawsuit, you've got the photographs of
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: the signs and everything. It's just kind of shocking that
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: you can't talk about Jesus at a festival that is, well,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: technically about Jesus.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 18: That's what makes this particularly absurd. I mean, really, no
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 18: matter what you believe, it's easy to see why this
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 18: is wrong. Everyone should hear about this, and something in
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 18: the back of their head says, yeah, that does not
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 18: seem right, no matter what they believe. But bigger than that,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 18: it's unconstitutional, right? This is a public street festival on
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 18: the city streets of Tucson, Arizona. And constitutional law that
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 18: is considered a traditional public forum where the government has
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 18: the highest of burdens to regulate any kind of speech, right?
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 18: And a public street festival is just that. It's a
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 18: public space where citizens can visit and walk around and
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 18: converse with each other about different ideas. The government cannot
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 18: target religious ideas or religious conversations. And no American should
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 18: want the government to dictate what messages are okay and
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 18: which ones are out of bounds. And, yeah, like you said,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 18: the fact that this is censoring a Christian message during
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 18: what is a Christmas event, I mean, that's particularly malicious
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 18: in my mind.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Well, Garrett, I have no doubt you guys will do
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: well with this one. Again, folks, if you'd like information,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: more information on the lawsuit, go to firstliberty.org. That's firstliberty.org.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: and you'll be able to get that intel. Garrett, I
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: know you're a busy man. You've got to step off here,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: and we do appreciate you taking a few minutes to
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: talk about the case. This is all breaking news, so
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: thank you again.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 18: Yes, thank you for hosting me and for listening.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: All right. Garrett Bell, everybody, from First Liberty Institute. No, look,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: it sounds to me like this is a fairly innocuous
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: situation where a guy's just standing there and has maybe
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: a gospel track or something of that nature, and not
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: causing anybody any offense, not causing any sort of chaos.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever seen this, Dylan, but
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: there are these guys, and they are street evangelists, and
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: they walk around a lot. They usually go to the festivals,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: and they have these massive, tall signs that they hold,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: and they sort of parade up and down with the banners,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: and many of them are very graphic. I mean, you'll
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: see like abortion stuff and I'll never, there are two instances.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: One was at the, the world barbecue championship. And I'm like,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: why are the Christians? I didn't understand that. Why are
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: the Christians boycotting the world barbecue championship? I didn't get
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: that one.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: Maybe they were vegan.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Well, uh, Unless they eat a
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: lot of starchy potatoes.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: A couple of these were big old boys.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: I saw them. They came to my college one time.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: I didn't know whether to go up to them or what.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: It felt weird.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Well, the thing is that even if you're a Christian,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: if you don't follow the way they believe you ought
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: to be living your life, you're not a Christian.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty intense.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very– it's kind of– yeah. So the other–
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: so I'm just– I'm like– I'm thinking to myself, are
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: you guys really that effective in winning people over to
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: the gospel by screaming at them as they're trying to
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: eat a pulled pork sandwich?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen that work, but you know, maybe it works.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, a lot of people like
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: to handle this. Oh, the snakes. Did you hear what happened?
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Speaking of this, put a pen in this for just
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: a moment.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 16: No, no.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 14: All right.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: I've got to finish my thought. Remind me of the snake.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: All right. Because I've got a story. So, so then
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: years ago, I was assigned to cover Pope Benedict when
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: he came to America for his American tour. And back
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: at Fox, uh, In those days, actually, I think it's
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: still this way. They don't know anything about religion, so
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: they knew that I was a religious guy. So they said, well,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: Stearns can cover the Catholics. Well, Stearns is a Baptist.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: What do I know about the Catholics? So, man, I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: had to do all this research on the Pope and
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. So anyway, we're traveling all
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: over America with the Pope. Get to Yankee Stadium. is
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: the old Yankee Stadium, and they were going to have
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: a mass at Yankee Stadium. And so I had to
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: be up in the press box to cover this. I'm
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: kind of like doing play-by-play of the mass as it's happening.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: To get inside the stadium, I'll never forget this. The
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: guys with the big banners showed up, and they had
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: these Catholic schoolgirls. These girls may have been, I don't know,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: fourth grade, fifth grade. They were young kids, right? They're
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: young kids, and they're there to see the Pope. These guys,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: these grown men with the big banners, were like screaming,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: screaming at these children, telling them they were going to
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: hell because they're Catholic. And I'm just like, it really was,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: I was taken aback by it. Because these girls were crying,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: you know, they were looking for their parents, and it
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: was just really an ugly scene. And I keep, again,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: I go back to the question that, Are you really
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: convincing people to follow the teachings of Christ? And is
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: that part of the whole thing here? Are you actually
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: representing Christ? You're an ambassador for Christ. Are you an
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: ambassador for Christ when you're screaming at little girls and
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: making them cry and want their mommies? It's just disgusting.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Just disgusting.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 11: 901-260-5926.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: That's 901. 260-5926. Dylan, you forgot to remind me about
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: the snake story.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: Snake.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Thank you. So there was a video that is circulating
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: from Georgia, of all places, and there was this little
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: church there. And something got loose in the church, and
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: I immediately thought the way the video was going, because
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: they had like all these towels and blankets, and they
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: were trying to capture whatever it was that escaped. And
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I thought, good Lord, it's a snake handling church. And
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff scares the living daylights out of me.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Because years ago, one of my very first assignments as
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: a young reporter was Somebody got bit at one of
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: these snake-handling churches, and so they sent the paramedics in,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: and the church members would not put away the snakes. And,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: you know, the way it works, and I'm just going
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: to— I' m not mocking the religion here, and I don't mean
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: to oversimplify, but the gist of it is, if you
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: have enough faith, you're not going to get bit by
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: the snake. But my contention is you've got a whole
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: lot of stupid if you're handling a snake. So anyway,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: somebody got bit, and I mean, they were on the ground,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: but they were still having the worship service, and the
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: paramedics at the time refused to go inside that building
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: because there were snakes all over the place. So what
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: they did, Dylan, somebody had a rope, and they basically lassoed.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember how it all played out. This
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: is like 35 years ago. They lassoed the guy's feet,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: and they were able to pull the victim out of
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: the church. It was a tiny wooden church, a clapboard church,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: and they saved the guy.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 11: Life.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: That's a rescue mission right there if I've heard of one.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Wow. Nobody was going in.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: Don't blame me. Just lasso him out.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: That's it. I mean, you got to do what you
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: got to do.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, seriously.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: So anyway, that's what I thought was going on here
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: with this Baptist church. I think it's called Eastside Baptist
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Church in Georgia. So then you know what it turned
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: out to be? A squirrel.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 11: No way.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: A squirrel. The squirrel went berserk in the church in Georgia.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 15: Wow.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: It really happened. Now, I don't know what happened. I
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: don't know if they had a sister Bertha better than you,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: but I'm just telling you that squirrel went berserk in
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: the first self-righteous church, and it wasn't down in the
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: sleepy little town of Pascagoula. It was in Georgia. It's
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: a great video. But that squirrel was getting on out
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: of there. I'm just telling you. All right, we've got
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: to take a break. 901-260-5926. This is the Todd Stern Show.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 12: The day the squirrel went berserk in the first self-righteous
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 12: church in.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: A sleepy little town of Pascagoula, it was a fight
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: for survival that broke out in revival. Jumping pews and
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: shouting hallelujah. Come on now. Hallelujah. Some thought he had religion.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: Others thought he had a demon.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: And Harb thought he had.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: A weed eater loose in his fruit of the loon. Uh-oh.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: He fell to his knees to plead and beg.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 13: And that squirrel ran out of his bridge's leg unobserved
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 13: to the other side of the room.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: All right, come on, America.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, there she is.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: You can't miss her.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 14: All right.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: I could listen to that song all day.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: Long, Dylan.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: Hey, dude, this song actually got me into that genre
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: of music, actually.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: All right, I have a correction. It's the East Georgia
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: Road Baptist Church, but it's in South Carolina.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's still close.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: We had a lady call in. She said that Ray
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Stevens is from Georgia.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: She did, which I thought was really funny.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: I had no idea. Well, thank you for that little nugget,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Miss Sherry. Okay, so the voice you're about to hear.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: And this is what gets me. So it's called the
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Million Dollar Quartet. Theater Memphis is putting this on. If
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: you're anywhere near Memphis, you need to get tickets to
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: see this show, which opens up this weekend. The guy
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: playing Elvis plays his own guitar. And Dylan, he's, what,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: 16 years old?
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's in high school.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: High school.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: It's crazy. He's very good.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: And so we asked him to play a little bit.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: And so here's the kid singing a great old Elvis song.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: Many of you are going to recognize it. Let's take
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: a listen here.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 15: Well, that's all.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 11: Right, Mama.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 15: That's all right for you. That's all right, Mama, just
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 15: any way you do. Now that's all right.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: Well, that's all right.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 15: That's all right now, Mama, any way you do.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: Well, Mama, she done told me.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 15: Papa done told me too.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: Son, that gal, you.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 15: Foolin' with, she ain't no good for you. But that's
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 15: all right. Well, that's all right. That's all right now, Mama,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 15: any way you do. Well, one and one is two.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 15: Two and two is four. I love that woman, but
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 15: I got to let her go. Now that's all right.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: Well, that's all right.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 15: That's all right now, mama, any way you do.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: All right. The young man named Russell Lindeman, and he's
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: starring as Elvis, 16-year-old kid, playing his own guitar. We
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: had him in the studio playing the guitar, and Dylan,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: you mixed the music right there on the spot in
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: real time.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I did. That's a true story. That's what happened.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Just, but it's really amazing. And what I love, it's
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: not some sort of an impression. You just kind of
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: have your own spin on an Elvis song.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: You can hear it when he sings too. You know
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: that like part of it was his, and then the
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: other part he actually added, you know, you can hear it.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: It's super cool.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a great, we're going to go
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: to the show and see it. So it's going to
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: be a lot of fun. But again, we love highlighting
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: and celebrating young people across America who are doing good things.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: in the country, and that's a good kid right there.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: So you'll be seeing him. You'll be seeing him in
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: the movies. I have no doubt about that. All right,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: coming up, we're going to take you into our C-SPAN interview.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: Had a great time. Also, if you see any squirrels
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: or anything else running around your church, give us a call.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: We want to hear about that. Hang tight, everybody. Hour
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: 3 of The Big Show coming up. We'll be right back.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: From Memphis, Tennessee. On the banks of the mighty Mississippi.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: It's America's conservative blowtorch.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: That's us. That's right.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 11: Our love is American.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Well, you're welcome, America. I told you, you know, we
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: know how to do a lot of things on this
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: radio program. We talk politics. We talk culture. We talk sports.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: And we talk about food. And I will never steer
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: you wrong when it comes to good eating and food.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: I just got a message from one of our listeners, Brian,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: from Memphis, and says, Todd, just heard you talk about Pesci's,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: and I happen to be right there and have been
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: wanting to try. Oh, my goodness. The meat paisan sandwich
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: is incredible. I may have a new addiction. And I said,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: wait till you try the meat sauce. You could put
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: their meat sauce on a flip-flop, and it would be delicious.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. So anyway, Brian, thank you. And folks,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: go over and tell Daniel, the owner. It's a family-owned restaurant.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: Be sure to tell Daniel that Todd Stern says hello.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: I'm heading over there immediately after the show, Dylan. That's
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: what's for supper.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're rigatoni pasta and meatballs. I don't know if
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: you can beat that at all.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: It's all homemade. And again, you know, the meatballs are
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: so delicious. And the reason why, not only are they
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: made with love, but they're made with my voice in
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: the background, right? So they're molding and shaping the meatballs
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: as I'm talking.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: I'm taking credit.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: You know what? That kind of gives me a different
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: perspective that I don't know if I want when I
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: eat the meatballs.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, I take all that back. It sounded a lot
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: better before it came out.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: You should say Todd Stearns inspired.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's it.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: Inspired meatballs. I love it. By the way, I want
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: to congratulate one of our alumni, and we're so proud
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: of our alums. First of all, Grace Baker wrote a novel.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: She's like a big fantasy novel person. She wrote her
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: very first novel, working to get it published. Congratulations, Grace.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: And then Ben Dieter ran the U.S. Army's 10-miler yesterday
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: and did very well. He finished the race.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: That's all you can say.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: That's what he wanted me to say. I mean, it's
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: like tens of thousands of people. Not tens of thousands.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: I think 10,000, 15,000 people. He came in like 50.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: Number 50.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: I'm not surprised. That dude is so fast and he
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: can run.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: And Dieter is one of these guys that like will just,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: you know what? He wakes up in the morning. Ah,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: you know me, I want a cup of coffee. And
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, he goes, ah, and he says, I'm going
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: to run 10 miles today.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: Psychopath.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: I can barely walk to the kitchen.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: Good on him.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: Anyway.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: Good for you, Dieter. We're proud of you. And he's
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: just a great, great, great kid.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 14: All right.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: A little 28-year-old kid, but, you know, kid is relative. So, look,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: yesterday we had a great time with C-SPAN. And they
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: filmed an interview that was conducted at Lancaster Baptist Church
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: during the Spiritual Leadership Conference about my new book, The
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: Golden Age, How Trump Saved America.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 14: Dr.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: Paul Chappell, the pastor of the church, conducted the interview,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: and we're going to take you guys through that. And
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: here's a little bit of that conversation from Lancaster Baptist
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Church in California.
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  Speaker 12: Well, Todd, do you have any fear being out here
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 12: in California talking about this subject?
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: I'm just glad you guys let me across the border.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: That was, you know, coming over from Tennessee. You know,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: I love California, and it's a beautiful state, and the
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: people here are just absolutely wonderful. The politics, eh, not
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: so much. But you know what? I love coming out here,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: and the Spiritual Leadership Conference for me, it's one of
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: those highlights of my year. to be able to come
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: and to have my batteries recharged, to get me out
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: of my comfort zone, and to also, I don't know
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: how you do it, but you always bring a message
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: that just punches me right in the face. So I
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: appreciate that.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 12: I'm not aiming for the face, but at least I'm
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 12: keeping you awake. We're trying for the heart, you know,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 12: but Thank God.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: Sorry, that was my politics.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 12: We're glad that the messages are having effect and certainly
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 12: have since God working in hearts. And Todd, I want
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 12: to thank you as we get started for just really
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 12: keeping us aware of the trends of the culture. It's
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 12: not that we're tailoring every message around some incident, but
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 12: there are times when our culture is and certain circumstances
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 12: and politicians are speaking against biblical values, not just values,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 12: biblical verses and the positions that we take. And the
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 12: Bible commands us to contend for the faith. And it's
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 12: almost overwhelming the way that the battle seems to rage.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 12: So thank you for keeping us aware and encouraged in
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 12: that battle.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: Well, we try to do that, and I think those
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: stories are important. I believe that in my study of
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: American history that we were meant to be a Christian nation.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: That's what our founding fathers intended. And so it's that
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: foundation that we really do all of our work, all
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: of our journalism, and now our commentary as we really
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: just let people know what's going on in their country.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 12: Well, it's so necessary, and it's a help, and I
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 12: believe you're a role model to other young journalists and
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 12: folks that are just beginning to use media to promote
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 12: the gospel message.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: I was one of those odd ducks, Pastor. I knew
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: what I wanted to do when I was just a
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: little kid. And my dad, I guess I was 12
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: or 13, and my dad had a little electrical company,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: and I had to go out and work with him
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: that summer. The very first, I'll never forget this, the
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: very first job was repairing a neon sign at Popeye's
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Fried Chicken and Biscuits. And my job was to turn
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: off the circuit breaker, which had apparently already been turned off,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: so I turned it back on. And I heard my
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: dad yelling like a Methodist, and there was dad sprawled out,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: and he said, son, you're fired. And Got me my
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: second job, which was sweeping the floors at our local newspaper.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: And that's how I got to really my first job
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: in the newspaper business was sweeping the floors and taking
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: out the trash at that little weekly newspaper in Louisiana.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 12: Well, I know you've worked in media up in the
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 12: Northern California area. And I'm starting to remember sitting here
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 12: if that was television or radio at that time.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: It was radio, and that's when Arnold Schwarzenegger was governor.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: And I was at the Capitol just about every day
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: working at the great KFBK in Sacramento, which is where
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: Rush Limbaugh got his start.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 12: And so you've done so much in media, but you
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 12: also do a lot in journalism. You have hundreds of
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 12: thousands of followers on your social media channels.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: And so I was just.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 12: Curious, which one do you lean into the most? Whether
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 12: it's the radio side, the TV side, or the journalism side?
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: So I love broadcasting, and I love radio. It's just
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: this great medium where... I know everybody likes to do
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: podcasting and all that, but with radio, you have a conversation,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: and it's very relational. I love it when our callers
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: will phone in and listeners phone in, and we have
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: those conversations on the radio. But for me, I guess
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: if you asked me years ago, little Todd, where do
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: you see yourself 30 years from now? I would have
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: been owning a small-town newspaper somewhere in the south, I
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: never imagined going to New York City or working for
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: a network. None of that was on the radar at all.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: That was really my jam was just being that Mayberry
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: kind of news editor. And my aunt and uncle, my
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: aunt was an English teacher, and I write about Aunt
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: Lynn and Uncle Jerry. A lot of people ask me
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: if they're real people, and they really are real people.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: And they let me use them as comic foils in
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: a lot of my books. Aunt Lim was an English teacher,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: and she loved Irma Bombeck. And whenever they would come
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: to visit, she would leave me these books. I was
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: just an avid reader, and I was the only kid
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: in junior high school that actually read Irma Bombeck. And
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: then I started reading other books by guys like Louis Grisard,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: who was a great Southern humorist. and a great author
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: in his own right, Art Buchwald and Molly Ivins. And
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of people are surprised to know that I
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: enjoyed reading those books by liberal commentators. But I really
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: loved the way they would craft a story. They would
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: poke fun. And on the conservative side, there really weren't
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of people doing that. So I wanted to
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: try to be that sort of humorist, a Southern humorist
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: that poked fun from the conservative side of the aisle.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: And we've had a lot of fun with it. Unfortunately,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: I discovered that liberals really don't have that much of
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: a sense of humor. So it is what it is.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 12: Well, I enjoy your broadcast and your writing because you
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 12: do interject humor along the way. And if we can't
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 12: laugh at ourselves. And in certain situations, we're not going
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 12: to have much joy or much fun. I do hear
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 12: from your staff that when the writing season is in,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 12: that the publishers are having to push you a little
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 12: bit because you apparently procrastinate on the writing side.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: And I'm wondering, do you work better under pressure?
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, I do. It's terrible. As a matter of fact,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: my publisher creates fake deadlines knowing that I'm going to
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: miss those deadlines. So that's how bad it is. And
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: so I own that. But, you know, it's interesting. I'm
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: one of these odd ducks. I have to have a
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: lot of noise around me when I write, so I
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: can't write in silence, which is why even here at
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: West Coast Baptist College, my favorite spot is the Great
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: Awakenings coffee shop. Great coffee. But also, it's just a
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: great writing environment. And so I'm always looking for those.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: If there's a coffee shop in town, I'm usually there
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: writing something.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: Okay. Well, I guess the coffee helps you meet the deadlines.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: I can have a conversation with the staff when I
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: get back to Memphis faster.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 12: Yeah, they gave me that. They said, ask this question.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 12: They want me to help you with that. So let's
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 12: talk about The Golden Age. And I remember when you
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 12: first talked with me about the book, And I was
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 12: excited to hear some of the themes we'll talk about today.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 12: When you got the subtitle, I was like, hmm. And
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 12: so the subtitle says, How Trump Saved America. And I
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 12: know that just immediately like is a polarizing subtitle.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: I think we could.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 12: probably find a lot of agreement on the fact that
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 12: he has done things to stem the tide of some
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 12: very troublesome things in the nation. I think we also
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 12: would have to agree our nation still has a lot
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 12: of problems. So explain that subtitle to us, okay?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: Well, they suggested an earlier title for the book, The
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: Gospel According to Donald J. Trump. And I said, I'll
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: be excommunicated from the Baptist church. I said, not doing
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: that book.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'll Jesse Waters. He'll handle that one. No,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: it is sort of people take a step back when
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: they see that. And one of the challenges I think
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: in America is we do not have long-term memory. So
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: people forgot just how bad it was in the last presidency,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: the auto-penn presidency of Joe Biden. And when you go
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: back and look at what was happening, and especially people
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: of faith, The FBI was cracking down on Catholics who
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: practiced the Latin Mass in the Richmond, Virginia area. They
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: were actually trying to get priests to spy on their parishioners.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: Then you had evangelicals who were being arrested for praying
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: right outside of abortion clinics. A sweet grandmother was sentenced
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: to time in federal prison because she prayed and sang
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: hymns outside an abortion clinic. And the list goes on
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: and on and on. Conservatives were coming under attack outside
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: of the church. And it was really and truly a
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: dark time in America. We all remember the infamous speech
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: that Biden gave outside of Independence Hall in Philadelphia with
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: the blood red lights. And you thought, oh my goodness,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: this is some sort of a dystopian society. So I
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: wanted to set about to write a book that said, okay,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: here's where we were and here's where we are now.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: A lot of people said that President Trump did not
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: deliver on his promises, and so that's what I did.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: I said, okay, here are the promises he made, and
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: did he keep those promises?
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 12: Well, and he certainly has taken a stand, for example,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 12: on not having men in women's sports. Some of these basic,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 12: not only biblical, just common sense issues that he has
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 12: spoken into and said, And around here, it's going to
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 12: be male and female and so forth. He's put some
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 12: people in good places of leadership who share those positions.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: There is a chapter in my book called How Trump
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: Saved Common Sense. And again, just very simple things that
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: this president did that he really doesn't get a lot
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: of credit for. But we cover a lot of those
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: issues in the book. But going back to the question,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: how Trump saved America, I truly believe we were on
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: the verge of a complete socialist takeover. And had Kamala
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: Harris been elected? president– ooh, I just puckered on that one–
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: Had Kamala Harris been elected president, I really believe we
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: would have gone over that socialist cliff. So President Trump
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: comes in, he gets elected, and he slams the brakes
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: and prevents the bus from going over the edge of
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: the cliff. That being said, and this really is the
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: warning in the book, is that we can get lost again.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: And if you look at the book cover, and I
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: think our designer, Joseph Huntley, did a wonderful job conveying
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: the roaring 20s the Great Gatsby. It was an incredible time,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: an incredible decade in American life. But after the roaring
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: 20s came the Great Depression. So I think my book
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: is also a cautionary tale that, yes, we as a
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: people have a responsibility to make sure that we maintain
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: this golden age.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 12: Well, it's interesting because there have been a lot of
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 12: promises made.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 5: That's what politicians do.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 12: And they probably know as they're making them, they can't
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 12: keep everyone without Congress helping along the way.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: And certainly there have been some strides made.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 12: It's been very emotional in the nation with respect to
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 12: the immigration issue. But I honestly believe that to educate, medicate,
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 12: and incarcerate the world's population was beginning to tax our country.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 12: And I think he pumped the brakes on that as well.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 12: I think, in other words, he's trying to keep his promises,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 12: I do think we need to pray for him. No
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 12: one can know someone's heart or where their faith really rests.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 12: But on the issues pertaining to family or abortion and
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 12: standing for those things as a pastor, I know that
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 12: I'm appreciative of what he's said.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: And a lot of what he's done.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: I think when you look at it, I've got a
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: chapter in the book called The Faith of Donald J. Trump.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: And I think when you look at President Trump, you
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: also have to look at his family. And here's a
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: man who deeply loves his family, his children and his grandchildren.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: And look at how they're turning out. I mean, these
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: are very well productive, put together members of society. They're
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: not out burning down buildings in Minnesota. They are good,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: solid kids. And so you have to wonder, whatever was
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: going on at Mar-a-Lago or at Trump Tower, This is
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: a man who made sure that his kids were raised right.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: And I truly respect that. And we need fathers that
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: are that involved in the raising of their kids. All right.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. More of my C-SPAN book special coming up.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: But right now, a chance for you to win a
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: signed copy of The Golden Age, How Trump Saved America.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: All you have to be is caller number four, and
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: you're going to pick up a signed copy of my
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: brand-new book, The Golden Age, How Trump Saved America. And
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: by the way, if you've won something in the past,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: you're not eligible here, so let's let other folks win.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: But 901-260-5926 is our telephone number. That's 901-260-5926, and we'll
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: get you a copy of The Golden Age. Also, ladies
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: and gentlemen, would love for you to consider getting a
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: couple of copies of The Golden Age for Christmas presents.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: They make wonderful gifts. It really is a fun, entertaining, inspirational,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: and encouraging look at what God has been doing in
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: America through the Trump administration. So get yourself a copy
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: at Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Books A Million, wherever you go.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: you buy your books. All right, hang tight, everybody. Got
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: to take a quick break. More of our C-SPAN book
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: interview coming up.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 5: Dr.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: Paul Chappell interviewing me at West Coast Baptist College. Hang tight.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: This is the Todd Stearns Radio Show. All right, welcome back.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: This is the Todd Stearns Radio Show. I was feeling generous.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: We said one winner, but we've actually got two. First,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: let's go to Shirley in Oak Crest, Georgia. Hi, Shirley.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: How are you today? I'm fine.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 9: How are you, Todd?
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: Shirley, I'm doing well. Thank you for asking, and congratulations, Shirley,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: because you've just won a copy of my new book,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: The Golden Age.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 10: I'm excited.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: I'm excited.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: Shirley, I can't wait for you to read this book.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: It is so much fun, and there are some wonderful stories.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: I think you'll have a great time reading it.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 18: I'm looking forward to it.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: My husband reads a lot, and he loves Trump.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: He will love it.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, and you're going to love the book cover. It's
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: almost suitable for framing, so you'll see what I'm talking
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: about when you get your copy. But congratulations, Shirley, and
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: we're going to put you on hold and make sure
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: we've got all of your information. And now let's go
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: to Leon in Gainesville, Georgia. And, Leon, you are a winner, too.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 17: Thank you, sir.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: My lucky day.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I hope so. Leon, we sure do appreciate you
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: listening to WTUN. They're good people over there.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 17: Absolutely.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 8: They sure are.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 14: It's a great station. We enjoy listening to your show.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 18: This country needs all the wisdom it can get.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: Amen to that, Leon. Amen to that. Well, hang tight.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: We're going to get all of your information, and we'll
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: be sending you a copy of The Golden Age in
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: the mail, so hang tight. All right, let's get back
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: to our interview from C-SPAN, our long-form interview and conversation
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: on The Golden Age. Let's take a listen.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 12: You know, you've had some pretty good access, I'd say
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 12: better than the average journalist to the president, both.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 5: At the White House and at Mar-a-Lago.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 12: And if you would just talk about some of those experiences,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 12: whatever comes to your mind, I'm curious to know, just
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 12: sort of not necessarily the decorum, the official nature of that,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 12: but the response, the spontaneity of the president in those moments.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: Many years ago, I was working at Fox News and
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: I had written a column about how children were not
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: being raised in the home. And The headline of the
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: story at Fox News was, We're Raising a Nation of Savages.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: And I got a call one day at my office
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: at Fox News headquarters there in midtown Manhattan, and it
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: was Donald Trump's secretary. He was not running for president then.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: He was just Donald Trump, the apprentice, that Donald Trump.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: And she said that he had read my column and
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: really enjoyed it. and wanted to send over a note.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: And so I said, sure. I was really surprised. I
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: had not met him at that point. And so they
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: sent over this. The next day, a courier came, and
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: there was my column. He had printed it out, and
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: he had autographed it and wrote a little note and
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: put his gold nameplate and said, you know, you might
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: want to have this framed. So, of course, if you
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: come to my office, it's right there. It's framed right
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: there in my office. And then when he ran for president–
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: I got to know him a little bit more. I
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: was working on a book, and I asked him if
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: I could interview him there at Mar-a-Lago. And so they said, well,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: I was talking to his team, and they said, we'll
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: give you 10 minutes. But you have to come to Mar-a-Lago. And,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: of course, I'm in Memphis, Tennessee. So fly down to Mar-a-Lago.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: And a lot of people say, what was it like
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: staying there? I say, I did not stay there. I
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: stayed at the Hampton Inn because you get the free breakfast.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: And they don't do that at Mar-a-Lago. So I'm a
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: penny pincher. And so I went over there and just
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: had a wonderful time. And I was expecting 10 minutes.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: And it turned into almost three hours of a conversation
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: in his office with And it was not one of
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: these where we're just having a casual conversation. It was
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: like you're in the Daytona 500, except you're on the
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: outside of the car holding onto the hood for dear life.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: That's what it's like interviewing this guy, because he's always multitasking.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: And that really caught my attention. But he would always
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: circle back to whatever point he was trying to make.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: So it's really brilliant watching his mind work there in person.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: But He's the real deal. And I want to say this,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: and this is early on in the book. My one
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: big takeaway from that entire experience is it happened later.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: And here's a guy that's a billionaire many times over,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: and yet the average Joe, the regular Joe, somebody like
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: my dad, a working class guy, he connects with those people.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: I couldn't figure it out until dinner on the beautiful portico.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: And I described the entire evening. And they're on the menu.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: You could order anything you wanted, caviar, whatever you wanted, oysters.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: His mom's meatloaf is on the menu there. And he
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: loved his mom's meatloaf. And I thought, wow, here I
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: am at Mar-a-Lago, one of the wealthiest clubs in America,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: and you can order Mrs. Trump's meatloaf right there. And
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: that told me everything I needed to know about Donald Trump.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: It really is about family with him and those traditions.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: And he loved his mom's meatloaf. I think we all
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: love our mom's meatloaf. And it was a really good meatloaf.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 5: By the way.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 12: Speaking of his mom, there's good historical evidence and testimonies.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 12: to the fact that she had accepted Jesus Christ as
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 12: her Savior in Scotland. We know that there were great
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 12: revivals that swept through the New Hebrides and throughout Scotland
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 12: and Ireland. And I understand that he still has her
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 12: Bible in And so, again, I don't know the president's faith,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 12: but I sense that he had a praying mother. And
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 12: I think that there were some values that were passed
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 12: along there. And I would agree with you. He loves
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 12: his family. And apparently he still loves his mom's meatloaf.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: I've got to tell you the story of the passage.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: This is a great story. So after all this happened,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago, right? We all know the story.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: So weeks later, I receive a telephone call. And it was,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: I think it was Forbes magazine. That was a reporter.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: And they said, we understand, we're working on a story.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: We understand that you were at Mar-a-Lago. Did the president,
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: did the president give you any classified documents? And I'm like,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: are you kidding me? So I said, so anyway, I
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: was working on the book and I said, well, the
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: president gave me a delicious glass of diet Coca-Cola and
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: a crystal glass. And it was refreshing. I said, as
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: for the classified documents, you'll have to read my book
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: to find out. Ha-ha, right?
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: Ha-ha.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: So anyway, I'm relaying the story to my attorney, and
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: he said, you told the reporter what? Because about that time,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: Mike Lindell had been out duck hunting. Remember, my fellow guy,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: he was duck hunting, and he was at the Hardee's drive-thru.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: My attorney's relaying the story. He was at the Hardee's
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: drive-thru and was surrounded by the FBI, and they confiscated
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: their phones, and he goes, Todd, are you listening? I said,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: Mike Lindell was at Hardee's? I had no idea. It's
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: a good biscuit sandwich. What are you going to do?
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: But anyway, I was never raided by the FBI, and
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: he did not give me any classified documents.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 12: That incident was one of the incidents that caused me
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 12: to step in and, in my spirit, be more supportive
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 12: of his campaign because when the FBI went to his
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 12: private residence for something that Joe Biden had a bunch
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 12: of boxes in his own garage, it's when I really
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 12: began to sense, if they hate this guy that much,
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 12: it's worth taking a look here and offering some support.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: As I wrote in The Golden Age, there really is
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: a deep state, and they go after people. And it
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: would bother me if this was happening on the Republican
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: side of the aisle, because that's not what our government
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: is supposed to be doing. And if they are doing that,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: then we need to have a very serious conversation about
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: that as a people, because the government is supposed to
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: be working for us, not putting us in some sort
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: of a surveillance state. Yeah.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 12: You know, about two or three months ago, I was
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 12: having a meeting with our mayor, and we were talking
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 12: about crime. And we were talking about here in L.A.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 12: County with the defund the police issue.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 5: We're underserved. And he just said.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 12: Something to the effect of, I'd like to have some
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 12: of these agents come and help us in our city.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 12: And so through a mutual friend, we called Senator Lindsey Graham,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 12: who was very close with the president, as you know,
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 12: And we were asking him to kind of put our
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 12: city maybe on the list. And, of course, Senator Graham
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 12: passed away. And that issue has kind of gone to
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 12: the side for us. But you kept it on the
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 12: forefront for Memphis. And I want you to tell folks
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 12: a little bit about that aspect of the president's response
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 12: to your request.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: There's a chapter in the book, and I had a
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: lot of fun writing this one, called How Trump Saved
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: My Hometown. I was born and raised in Memphis. It's
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: a great town. And unfortunately, we are dealing with a
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: severe crime problem. We're the deadliest city in America. the
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: most violent city in America. And so the president was
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: on my radio show, and he comes on the show
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: quite a bit. And he was talking about how effective
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: the National Guard surge in Washington, D.C. had been. And
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: so I felt, I don't know, felt a little emboldened.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: I'd already had my morning Dr.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 14: Pepper.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: And so I said, well, Mr. President, it's great that D.C.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: is doing well. but Memphis is so much worse than Washington, D.C.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: Would you consider sending the National Guard to Memphis? And
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: so he told me that he wasn't aware of that,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: and we had some back and forth. The conversation goes on,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: and we hit a few other topics. And at the
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: very end, as we were saying goodbye, he says, Todd,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: I'm going to look into Memphis. So a couple of
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: weeks later, I got a phone call from the White House,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: and they said, you know, the president would like for
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: you to be in the Oval Office. He's going to
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: make the announcement that he's sending a task force to Memphis, Tennessee.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: And it was such an honor. I was not able
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: to be there for that event, but I flew up
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: for another event at the Oval Office. And Had a
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: chance to personally thank the president. And there's actually a
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: photograph of the moment in the book. And I have
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: to tell you, it was quite an honor to be
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: able to walk into that building. All the years I
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: covered Obama, I never got to step foot into the
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: Oval Office. I don't know why. But it was really
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: an honor. And crime in Memphis, we just had our
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: one-year anniversary. Crime is down over 40 percent, violent crime
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: in Memphis. as a result of what the president did.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: And I think people are just so grateful that the
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: president cared enough to send them help.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 12: I think that folks that are in beleaguered cities like
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 12: that appreciate the help. And I know that it's making
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 12: a difference in various cities. And when you think about
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 12: the issues in the inner cities, you think about the
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 12: root issue, which is sin. The Bible says, for all
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 12: have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 12: It doesn't matter if you live in the White House
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 12: or if you live in the inner city, Everybody needs
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 12: forgiveness and everybody needs a savior. And I remember telling
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 12: some friends during the campaign, we're not voting for a pastor.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 12: We're voting for a president. It's not going to be
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 12: a perfect person. Pastors aren't perfect. Presidents aren't perfect. And
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 12: yet God has used different people throughout history to make
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 12: countries a better place to live. And I think that's
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 12: the point. that you're making here in the book. He's
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 12: a tool in that sense.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: And he has been so effective, and especially with young
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: men in America. And I think the culture at large
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: has been so dismissive of young men, medicating generations of
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: boys simply for being boys, you know, and being rough
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: and tumble young men. And along comes President Trump, and
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of these guys truly admire the
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: president because, again, he's a man who is living the
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: American dream, and people see that, and they're drawn to that.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 12: On that line, Todd, just putting politics aside here for
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 12: a moment, just looking at a person, number one, the
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 12: work ethic at age 80 to keep the schedule he keeps.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 12: And he's doing that for our country. He's not taking
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 12: the salary. It actually amazes me. And then the second
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 12: thing that I observed, and we've all observed, were the
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 12: attempts to take his life. And a lot of men
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 12: would have completely changed their protocol. They would have, and
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 12: justifiably so, not been around people as much. And so
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 12: I see someone who's endeavoring to be present and who's
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 12: working diligently to represent our country.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: Two men that their work ethic is insane. One of
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: them is President Trump and the other is Franklin Graham.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: And let me say, those two men have something in common.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: They both love McDonald's. So I know there are a
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: lot of people that drink the liquefied lawn clippings and,
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: you know, they eat the healthy stuff. But, you know,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: give me a fried apple pie and a Big Mac.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 12: Well, I'll tell you what, the chocolate chip cookies this
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 12: week have not been bad either.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: No, they have not. They have not.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 5: But, Dr.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: Chappell, on that issue, and I write about the assassination
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: attempts in the book, and also we take people back
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: to the day that Charlie Kirk was assassinated. It was
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: in the final hour of my radio show. We were
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: live on the air. I was interviewing Senator James Lankford
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: from Oklahoma when I interrupted our conversation to share the
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: news that something had happened. It was all happening in
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: real time, so we pulled the transcripts from the show
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: and turned that into a chapter in the book, just
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: again to take people back to that moment. It's a
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: disturbing time in America, and we'll talk about why it's
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: a disturbing time in just a moment, but when you
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: look back at the assassination of Charlie and the attempted
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: assassination of President Trump, the man changed after that assassination attempt.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: Much like Ronald Reagan changed, and there have been books
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: written about this, but Reagan became a much more, I
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: think he was a thoughtful president after the assassination attempt,
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: and he became much more in tune with his faith.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: And I think we've seen to some extent, we've seen
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: President Trump talking about that. And he's, you know, he's
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: sort of guarded about his faith, but every now and again,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: he'll let slip, you know, that he's certainly thinking about
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: those things.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: Well, the Bible says, what is our life? It's but
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 5: a vapor.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 12: It appears for a little while and it vanishes away.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 5: He saw his life flash before him.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 12: And I truly believe those events can cause us to
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 12: be aware of our own mortality and hopefully our need
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 12: for the forgiveness of Christ for our sins and the
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 12: home in heaven that only Jesus Christ can provide.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 5: And so we'll pray for that.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 12: Well, I want to speak for a moment about some
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 12: things you talk about in the book, and that would
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 12: be some of the threats that we're facing. You mentioned socialism,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 12: and to whatever extent President Trump has paused and pumped
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 12: the brakes on that, we see some mounting pressure right
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 12: now in our country towards that, which is in many
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 12: ways one step away from communism. And I'm sure that
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 12: that concerns you. But What are some other threats that
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 12: you are seeing on our country right now?
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: Well, there's been a lot of data, and I've been
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: following this data for a long time. I am a constitutionalist,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: and I believe that you have a right to say
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: what you want to say. That's what it means to
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: be an American. You have freedom of speech, freedom of religion,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: freedom of association. And it troubles me when people when
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: people are coming after those freedoms. For me, back in 2015,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: I started monitoring the attacks on free speech. Pew Research
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: did a study. And about 40% of millennials at the
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: time believed there should be limitations placed on free speech. Now,
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: there's a new study out, and a majority of young
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: Americans believe that it's okay to use violence to shut
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: down speech you disagree with. 33% of registered Democrats believe
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: that they would be okay. if somebody were to assassinate
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: President Trump. Another majority of those Democrats believe that, you know,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: it'd be okay. You know, if he dies in his sleep,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: we're good with that. So that's troubling that now it's
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: not so much a matter of canceling someone. but killing
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: someone because you simply disagree with their political beliefs. And
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: then I think through that lens, you understand what happened
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: at Utah Valley University with Charlie Kirk. It's a very
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: dark and dangerous time. So that's one big issue. The other,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: I think, is the two-pronged rise of political Islam. as
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: well as the rise of socialism. And I think that's
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: really because of the dumbing down of our nation's education system.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: A lot of young people just don't truly understand what
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: socialism is. They don't understand that it has never worked
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: wherever it's been implemented. And they also don't understand that
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: communism especially has resulted in the slaughter of millions of
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: people around the globe. And that's a result of an
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  Speaker 2: education system that is not educating our young people. They're
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