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The Seatrical Cut: Zack Snyder's Justice League & Disco Elysium Ban · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  I'm G to put this out there has anyone been talking about the ozone layer
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  welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things nerdy I remember when we were in school
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  people were talking about it all the time I've not heard anyone mention the O
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  layer in like 5 years I think we solved that I think we fixed it cuz we all
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  stopped using chlorocarbons right M mhm mhm but did it grow back or I think
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  McDonald's stopped serving cheeseburgers in polystyrene non-biodegradable
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  containers and abely it fixed itself which is good cuz it was right above us
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  as far as I know but climate change is still a problem but I thought that had
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  something to do with the ozone layer I think the cows were fighting uh because
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  we were feeding them poyene and spraying them with chlorocarbons and so now have
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  stopped to all of them oh man I sprayed so many cows with
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  CFCs you know I read a study this week that says what we should actually be
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  feeding cows as seaweed they natural food yeah it's got
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  It's got all the nutrition of grass but it doesn't doesn't build up the same
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  gases that grass is that true okay all right I mean the cows like seaweed
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  though not as far as I know man I'm okay for cows to continue to live it's pandas
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  and koalas that should go oh pandas and koalas yeah they got something against
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  koalas now as well Luke I seem to recall you having a discussion with no one
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  other than Kevin Smith film
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  director about the time you rescued a
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  koala from a water that's true well Matt the story is true what happened was not
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  true that's not a joke listeners he did talk to Kevin Smith about this no koala
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  what like pis they eat something that's so unnal that it's they have to eat a
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  lot of it and KOA is the same they only eat eucalyptus leaves which is terrible
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  diet and cous it's a terrible diet for you it's it's what they eat Luke I've
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  I've been told by sources close to you that you eat KFC for lunch every day so
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  I think that that is such a lie anyone
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  who's I know now you eat Su Lun every day I have sushi every day I know I know
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  but that's new that is a new thing there was a period where I ate KFC for lunch
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  every day I just got really into Works burgers and it was it only when mutual
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  friend of ours Paul who I used to work with told me Matt you're starting to
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  look like a Works burger that I did something about it
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  every now and again I get that craving for KFC you know that smell you you
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  smell I need KFC and then you eat it and then you instantly feel sick after it
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  it's called addiction that happened to me earlier in the week m
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  [Laughter]
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  I did the update so maybe my Yeti stopped working okay oh yeah listeners
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  you may have noticed last week Dan's audio sounded a little different yeah it
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  wasn't that I was phoning in as a special guest although uh that's kind of
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  how it sounded but hopefully I sound okay this week yeah so I just finished
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  watching something okay what did you watch I just watched 4 hours of a movie
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  that made no sense to me at all look before any of us talk about this and I
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  assume you're talking about Z Snider's Justice League in the past we've been
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  known to do entire episodes on Batman movies sure as soon as they come out
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  yeah we did a special Batman versus Superman I wonder if we've got an entire
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  episode's worth of uh stuff to say about this I doubt it I'd be very surprised
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  I've got notes but I don't know that it's going to take me an hour to get
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  through them okay well you you're probably going to get sick of me talking
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  after about 10 minutes you've got four hours was Matt
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  go I watched it and it didn't feel like one movie or one
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  story it really did feel like it chopped and changed it felt like it was maybe
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  three movies put together to make one that makes sense it did have a pretty
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  good TW movie split it could have been two I think I think possibly there was a
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  plan at some point to make it two movies cuz it seemed like you know up until the
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  end of Stephen wolf and the second movie is the introduction of dark side yeah
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  cuz it was like oh his three act and here's another three act at the end so I
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  was like okay and then three more endings yeah okay the endings I actually
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  what the original one was forget what the original movie was but they they
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  fleshed out cyborg more didn't they oh [ __ ] yeah oh man yeah like it actually
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  explained who he was I don't even know why they bothered including Cyborg and
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  the theatric theatrical cut that that was me saying cinematic cut and
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  Theatrical cut together that's the verion they only screen in Seattle the
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  Seattle cut yeah in the 2017 cut I mean
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  he was he was a sidelined character in this he was basically the
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  protagonist yeah that was actually most of the stuff I really liked about this
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  version was the character stuff I feel like it really benefited from that um
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  like actually got to know them this time instead of just and here's the flash
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  everybody had something to do guys I I'll say this but before we go into what
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  we liked and didn't like I I have to say and I want to get this out before either
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  of you give a blanket statement I really enjoyed this I watched this as one movie
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  really watched 4 hours all the way through it's not a great movie by any
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  means but this is the standard we should expect from a superhero epic not the
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  2017 cinematic Seattle release if this is what had come out back then we would
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  have had a completely different experience and it's not without its
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  flaws I would not have but I I enjoyed every minute of it I also called
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  [ __ ] that it was the plan all along was a 4our cut of a movie no that's
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  definitely not not the plan even he there's a behind the scenes video they
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  put out where he said he said basically he had no time restriction so he was
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  like [ __ ] all right let's just get everything every idea that I had and
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  we'll put it out there so that everyone the fans can see no time restrictions
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  [ __ ] it the villagers sing a song I the painting of the movie kept
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  changing a lot like it was very very slow and a lot of pointless stuff you
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  know what let's watch the whole ceremony that the Amazon performed before I shoot
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  this Arrow 10 minutes yeah let's watch them but how did they get the arrow
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  there did they bring it out in a box we'll show us the [ __ ] box how did
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  they make the Box let's watch that as well um but who did they used to know
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  let's show them fighting alongside people who aren't part of this
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  movie I I think he still just misses the point it wasn't fun that's what I want
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  for my superhero movies I want fun oh I don't know man I I had a lot of fun with
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  this no see but that's the problem with the 2017 cut they tried to make it too
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  much fun yeah they put all the silly jokes Batman's making all his quips out
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  of character yeah I yeah you're right I watched some a video that showed like
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  what was not in this version versus cuz I hadn't watched the the old the Seattle
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  cut in a while yeah I didn't get around I plan to uh and I was like oh okay a
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  lot of that really awful stuff the the the bad jokes was new but then there
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  were a few good things that I liked in the in the theatrical version that
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  weren't in this such as uh well here's the that's the thing they removed a lot
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  of the Zack SN doesn't care about civilians right and there's none of that
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  in this like the whole end sequence in the theatrical version there was this
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  Russian family that was in danger oh yeah I forgot about them not even
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  [ __ ] mentioned in this are no civilians at all in this movie as far as
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  I can tell it's literally EX for the villagers who sing except for those guys
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  yeah and and sniff jumpers that are discarded why does that guy even own jumpers
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  honestly every time he gets back in the water he throws away a jum but I also
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  got I got did get confused about the the when the you we first meet The Flash and
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  he's going to that job interview and he's looking at the girl
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  and necessary but I thought it was a we never see her again it was a cool scene
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  it's it's called save the cat Blake Snider no relation um who's a film
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  theorist has a um an essay on film structure called save the cat and it's
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  basically your hero has to save a cat in the First Act for you to know uh that
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  they're the hero right and that was uh that was him saving the cat or in this
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  case saving a saving a girl I think he was trying to get laid oh definitely he
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  was yeah well also I guess CU Ezra Miller is a homosexual and they were
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  like we need audiences to know that um if he was going to bang anyone it would
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  be a a fale was that incident where he beat up a woman so it's like we should
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  probably show him not doing that yeah yeah but I think you know just just as a
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  little wink and Nod to uh let the audience know he's gay before he saved her he quickly
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  just sausage yeah I I look I found this movie fine
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  it's not I mean I would I'm not going to watch it again I found the no no no
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  neither the plot was pretty all over the place yeah it was not particularly
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  interesting and it was I mean it was fairly incomprehensible although I think the
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  fact that I'd seen the theatrical cut helped with that cuz I was able to like
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  oh yeah okay had three more boxes yeah all that it's like [ __ ] but then they
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  got this the epilog where it's gone to the Future and then that's setting up to
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  go to the P that sort of made no sense in this car we can have a whole separate
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  conversation about that well that was all new right that was him putting just
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  putting it all out there on the table right cuz he's not going to do anymore
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  it's this and in Batman v Superman where there was also that nightmare future
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  they were both dream sequences you saw Bruce Wayne wake up yeah and it was well
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  the whole it's all to tie in that thing where the flash says Lois is the key
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  right yeahh and in this he goes they're talking about that cuz I mean that just
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  got abandoned in the theatrical cut but never came up again in this he says he
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  said oh I in the SN cut he says oh I had a vision of of I think it was him the
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  Flash and he told me Lois was the key and I think it's Diana says Oh you mean
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  like cuz you know cuz she come Superman down and he goes no I think it's more
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  than that but it's not more than that that's literally what it is it's just no
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  no no but it's not it's not because Barry Allen future Barry Allen with a
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  beard says Lois is the key so that's way after so he's talking about when
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  Superman's evil in the future the reason Superman's evil in the future is because
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  Lois died and never stopped him from being evil so it is that is exactly what
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  it is that's yeah but also we don't really know that story line at all
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  though because it's also but also it's a dream sequence it's kind of a mess it's
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  not part of the main narrative good point the other shoehorned thing in this
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  one which I didn't dislike but it was very shoehorned was Martian Manhunter
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  yes that was so weird right because you had this really nice scene with and
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  Martha and then it wasn't even marur so I was like wait a minute and and if you
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  remember Matt if you watched the the old one you you'd know that replaces a scene
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  a really weird and awkwardly paced scene at the Daily Planet and it was a lovely
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  scene no not Martha [ __ ] Martian Man Hunter in dis because it it undermines
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  that whole scene because it's like them connecting like over the death of
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  [ __ ] Clark Kent and then it turns out it's not it's not actually his mom at
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  all it's just [ __ ] why is he there why is he there at all yeah there should
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  be a scene where they go back to the end to um to pay off the farm and she's like
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  I never missed a payment on the farm how how did you know yeah remember what you
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  told me no I don't know what you're talking about Lois I haven't seen you in
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  years no but also then he comes back at the end right and speaks to a really
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  thin gaunt Ben aete cuz clearly they've got him off the couch to come back and
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  do another one yeah and then he's like who are you and I'm like are they going
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  to say Martian Man Hunter like I go by many names I'm like oh even better
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  they're not going to say it like we who know are going to know and then they
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  finish the conversation and just before he flies off he's like oh by the way
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  it's Martian Mana I know and then and then Bruce Wayne does not say what what
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  a a martian what does that mean you hunt Martian men or you're a martian who hunts
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  men and also you said that like I should know were you talking to me or were you
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  talking to some audience at least I did get rid of the
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  whole race at the end oh yeah with um a lot of that goofy [ __ ]
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  with um yeah everything Barry Allen said
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  what is brunch I did not like the Joker no he's [ __ ] awful that was just a
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  very weird scene I was okay with it if that was the Joker we had gotten in
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  suicide squ Suicide Squad I would have been okay with it no I just I don't know
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  just cuz it kept coming in and out of focus and I just I didn't like it I I
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  don't like him as the Joker I don't like his performance I find it really
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  irritating but but it seems like he's trying to do a Heath Ledger but he's
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  just I don't know he's certainly dialing in more Heath Ledger but that's that's
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  the thing this might this should have been called Justice League rcom because
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  I don't believe for a second this was Zack Snider's original cut this is Zack
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  Snider plus Jos weeden's bad publicity
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  plus fan feedback equals redcom well you know Z n
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  allegedly has not seen the theatrical version he won't watch it and actually
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  what I read was what I read was that that apparently Christopher Nolan went
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  with Zack Snider's wife to see it wife and then they came home and they went oh
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  that's weird yeah that's what I was and then they said Zack you can't watch this
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  it's garbage and he was like all right wow he's like well I can't now because
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  my [ __ ] best mate and my wife saw this together so I don't want me to see
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  it with yeah would be nice for an invite also why why is that happening yeah
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  and evidently Jos Weeden is not going to watch this he said no interest in
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  watching this is anyone talking to Jos Weeden cares what Jen thinks right now I
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  don't think so but even like um the one of the big criticisms and I certainly
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  had this criticism too of um the theatrical [ __ ] still doing it this
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  theatrical cut um was that steephen wolf was just an awful villain with no
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  motivation yeah and in this he's like oh was he Dan or did they did he have a
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  motivation and here it is suddenly that you just didn't see before yeah I think
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  that was a weird choice to just get rid of the [ __ ] villain's backstory he
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  was way more compelling this time with like you know he was he just wanted to
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  be loved yeah I don't think I I would put money on that that was not part of
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  Snider's original Vision that that is all added in now because they know about
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  the criticism that's possible because I mean cuz they're like okay it worked
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  with Darth Vader you know he's the big bad like no he's just a porn of the
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  emperor and it's you know it was the same thing in uh what worked so well in
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  the two Last Avengers movies was that before you saw Thanos you saw his
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  minions yeah I got to the [ __ ] the Zack sness of Batman Superman Wonder
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  Woman humans got to look after them we'll [ __ ] murder anyone anything
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  that's not from this planet though yeah like that's right we will [ __ ] seur
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  them Superman I mean not in this necessarily but in Man of Steel
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  Superman murdered millions of
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  people Millions but like collaterally like he didn't like the first person he
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  actually murdered with his own hands was Zod and he didn't want to do it but
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  since then he's like no not fromed people with Zod he picked Zod up and
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  smashed him through people's houses yeah and then broke his neck like yeah yeah
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  that's right but that be where he [ __ ] blast stepen Wolf's [ __ ] ear
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  off off basically I was like Jesus Christ Zack Snider and then Wonder Woman
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  chops his [ __ ] head off and tosses through the portal well that's also
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  because in the in the in the Seattle cut there was basically once Superman turns
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  up there's no point anyone else being there but this was a real team effort
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  it's like Superman cut off his ear Wonder Woman cut off his head Aquaman
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  kicked him through the hole everyone had a little something to do I did laugh
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  there's a bit where they they first land in Russia and then the back of the I
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  guess it's the Batwing opens up and they all like walk out through the smoke and
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  then like the music plays and then it stops and then Batman goes um actually I
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  got to I got to go back on because I'm supposed to fly this thing in through
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  the thing so I'll see you guys later that that was cool though that was really
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  cool yeah yeah why why' he walk out yeah that just stayed in the cockpit stay in
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  the [ __ ] seat mate he yeah yeah no but you're right about the Snider
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  because this was this was much more akin to Watchmen yeah oh yeah
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  of and he hero worship literally that
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  kind of superhero fetishism yeah yeah I know what you mean he loves him worships
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  him he does not care I think he literally said that's what he was trying to do
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  so I still think the action in this was like it's all yeah I agree I agree
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  like it's never clear when anyone's in actual danger like what the stakes are
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  well no one actually was cuz even he s flash he gets thrown against stuff and
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  he's being thrown into like concrete grounds and steps and he's the same as
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  Wonder Woman and they're both just fine well I wrote down this is an example of
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  something I didn't like and this is this was in the other version as well there's
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  a sequence should we say spoilers I think it's too late I mean at
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  this point there's a sequence where Aquaman gets grabbed by the parad demons
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  and they carry him up into the sky there's three of them and beats them up
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  and then he starts falling right and it's like resed and he goes thanks
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  cyborg rescues him and then he jumps off he either jumps or cyborg throws him and
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  then he starts falling again but it's okay that he's falling this time because
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  he meant to do it like it's only dangerous building yeah it's only
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  dangerous if he doesn't mean to do it cuz then later yeah he smashes through
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  the top of a [ __ ] building riding a parademon like a
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  surfboard five floors and just smashes through the how much does he [ __ ]
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  weigh for starters and then why is he able to survive that but then later on
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  Steen wolf hits him and he slams into the wall and some rocks are going to
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  fall on him and but that's dangerous even though he can smash to a building
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  but some rocks will hit him again Matt cuz he's not he doesn't mean to get hit
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  by rocks if he did it on purpose it would have been fine if he' headbutted a
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  rock that's I think that's the rule that's the rule yeah cuz if you look
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  like before they all trying to fight Steep and wolf and he's just blocking
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  everything then Superman rocks up and they all just team up together and just punching
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  throw him left and right it's all fine I think it's whether the the the thing
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  that's going to hurt you was initiated by you or someone else that's whether
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  it's that decides whether it's dangerous speaking of the thing that hurts you the
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  scene where Superman wakes up and he's all angry and fight that's still my
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  favorite scene in the whole movie yeah yeah yeah and it's I think they it
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  didn't seem to change much between both I think it was finished wrong I think it
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  was just that um they brightened up the sky for the uh the Weeden cup but um but
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  I don't remember seeing Superman punch Wonder Woman in the face I think that
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  was in the the first one as well but I really I remember the headbutt the
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  headbutt was there he punches her with his fist in the face I don't remember
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  all it is is Superman's just grumpy when he wakes up yeah yeah I know Cofe I love
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  that bit where Batman walks up and Superman looks at him and Batman's like ah [ __ ]
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  yeah yeah but they didn't take out they they took out that bit where Superman's
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  like well you didn't bring me back cuz you like me and he's like I I don't I
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  don't not like you yeah um in the in the first one did Batman brought L Lane
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  didn't didn't he oh oh yeah you might be right he sort of brought her out as like
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  special the secret weapon and she and he brings her out not yeah you might just
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  rocking up cuz Lois was the key but it's right it's done now we've seen
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  it internet just stopped talking about it now you got it it's still not a great
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  movie it's better than what we got but it's not great well of course the
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  internet is now beging for uh more the Snider sequel yeah they're saying it's
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  not going to happen but I can't they said this was I want I want you to find
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  the episode where we first reported on release the SN cut yeah we were like
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  it's not going to happen we made so much fun of those [ __ ] on the internet I
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  still think it's terrible that they're winging and complaining and they got
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  their way yeah this has never this has never really happened before the I don't
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  think this is more so than even Mass Effect this is like they spent millions
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  of dollars on this and and what's it the guy miles Dyson that actor he came out
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  this week and he said miles Dyson yeah that actor Cyborg's dad he came out this
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  week and he said that he feels like this is a good thing and it's like the the
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  fans get to vote and I was like no no that is not a good thing that's not not
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  a good thing that's not how this is supposed to work that is not how to
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  create good art you can go and watch something and it's okay if you don't
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  like it you don't have to like everything that comes out and if you
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  don't like it just to go sorry that's not for me right I'd like to if next
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  time can you try this for me not there are now more Star Wars movies that I
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  don't like then do like and that's just something I have to live with but I
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  haven't written any angry emails have you heard what's coming to Disney plus
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  this month next month what what Caravan of courage and battle for end all is it
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  oh wow I just think it's interesting that like this movie is the one that
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  gets people talking about this yeah [ __ ] this movie this like I mean look
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  it's this movie is fine like but it's
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  not you know it's yeah movie all right I think I think also by doing this it's
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  now really made it very confusing how to watch these movies now oh sure because
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  we Brothers said this is not this is not canon I I know it's not but it exists
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  and I've seen it and now people are going to get confused now when The
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  Suicide Squad comes out the next Aquaman it's cuz it's but then again they're not
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  doing they're not doing cinematic continuity anyway are they yeah it's all
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  the same universe it's all Joker yeah like waen Phoenix is
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  Jared Leo's dad is it oh no no well that's Standalone but the Aquaman Wonder
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  Woman all that they're still part of that whole universe I don't want to get
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  rid of that when Robert patson walks in and Chris Christopher Gordon
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  Commissioner Gordon says to him all you've lost a lot of weight Ben but this
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  is where it's confusing it's because they have the standal Loon but then
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  they've also got the Universe at the same time and then also the television
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  shows which are D different DC have always done that in the comics yeah like
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  is Batman's doing this thing guess what it's not that other Batman it doesn't
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  make it easier because Marvel I think's in a tricky spot now cuz it's how do he
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  start again type of thing Multiverse yeah and I think prob getting
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  close to that whereas DC and which make a movie and it's fine we'll put that out
• 25:24
  yeah you got a money you got a point speaking of Marvel does anyone not
• 25:29
  really care about Falcon of the Winter Soldier I watched it and I actually
• 25:34
  quite liked it yeah I mean I want to watch it I just I just was watching this
• 25:41
  instead I think it's odd that they put this out directly after one division
• 25:46
  like build up some hype make us wait make us miss it no I I I actually quite
• 25:52
  like it cuz we go from this to L and I think that but yeah it's actually quite
• 25:56
  interesting cuz all it's it's it's really interesting watching all these
• 25:59
  stories about happening when all these billions of people come back to earth
• 26:03
  and how it just it's not just yay Happy Days my family's back it's oh [ __ ] we
• 26:09
  don't have the infrastructure to support this anymore and got all these people
• 26:12
  going out of businesses we got and yeah no I I watch it it's good I'm enjoying
• 26:17
  it okay I'll pick it up for next time yeah can we talk about the fact that we
• 26:21
  get these beautiful cinematic TV shows for Marvel that are in 16 B9 and then we
• 26:26
  get this [ __ ] like what 20 how much
• 26:31
  did this movie cost Z Justice League 4 43 what the [ __ ] I know what the actual
• 26:37
  that's what he likes because he shot some of it on IMAX and then he went you
• 26:41
  know what even though this is going to be watched on a [ __ ] TV or an iPad
• 26:46
  I'm going to put it in the IMAX [ __ ] resolution so that people can just not
• 26:50
  appreciate that because like the way they justify it is by saying okay you
• 26:54
  know you actually a 35mm film frame is 4X and they crop it to the academy ratio
• 27:00
  it's like yeah but you you crop it by knowing in advance you're going to crop
• 27:05
  it so you only frame in the center of the frame well that's some of the shots
• 27:10
  like most of the time I didn't really notice but some shots you can tell that it's you're
• 27:14
  like I never saw anyone's left shoulder yeah well that and then and then you saw
• 27:20
  the sky in some shots it's like like Wonder Woman's in the bottom of the
• 27:24
  frame like instead of in the middle am I the only person who thought that
• 27:28
  special effects were pretty bad some of them were were bad yeah like cyborg very
• 27:34
  plasticky yeah cyborg didn't always look good did he yeah like you could really
• 27:40
  tell that was like yeah cgdi like it looked like looked like someone did it
• 27:44
  for the like uni project I I thought the same about um
• 27:51
  those battle sequences um that were I mean it it's funny that you can have
• 27:57
  thousands of people battling each other and the frames still feel really sparse
• 28:03
  you know there's no Elemental effects there's no dust being kicked up and you
• 28:08
  know like it's just it's so clean it's got that real video game cutscene Vibe
• 28:14
  about small groups of enemies never like you know like there's that sequence
• 28:18
  where um Batman's you know fanging the
• 28:22
  Batmobile to to to to do something I guess cuz he just doesn't give a [ __ ] if
• 28:27
  he lives or dies that to explain to her audience what fanging means driving it's
• 28:32
  in people see Mad Max Fury Road haven't they and then they're all all the enem
• 28:38
  sh sounds like a vampire giving a [ __ ] and I was fanging him right and
• 28:45
  then but then whenever they they fight the bad guys there supposed to be like
• 28:49
  hundreds of them but you only ever see a couple at a time I guess is my point
• 28:52
  yeahh and when he crashes the Batmobile or when they shoot the Batmobile it like
• 28:56
  crashes into like three of them and it's like oh right that's they're
• 29:00
  done now oh that's there was just three of them the yeah never mind oh can
• 29:06
  somebody Explain the ending a little bit not the ending I mean what I mean which
• 29:10
  one there was a few so you've got the mother boxes and then he wants to put
• 29:15
  the mother boxes together to to bring them into Unity because that it'll kill
• 29:20
  everyone on Earth and then turn them into he controls them or something
• 29:25
  doesn't it blows up the planet but then dark side needed the planet to get the
• 29:29
  anti-life equation like it ble but he didn't know about the anti-life equation
• 29:33
  when they were looking for the mother boxes that's two separate story lines no
• 29:36
  but he did he so by the time that they're doing it he does know because
• 29:40
  he's like I'm going to come then they open the portal and then seep molf is
• 29:43
  like he's here and then he and he destroys the [ __ ] planet with the
• 29:46
  mother boxes like I just and the Flash The Flash has to go back in time which
• 29:51
  was I loved all that stuff but but I kept thinking why did he blow up the
• 29:55
  planet I thought he wanted the planet but not only that they've been here
• 29:58
  before they lost the battle they knew that they were here and
• 30:02
  then just not trying again oh yeah come back nobody wrote this down Superman's
• 30:08
  death they were like oh we can finally go back to Earth cuz Superman's Dead he
• 30:13
  wasn't there for 20 years exactly this happened thousands of years ago like the
• 30:19
  Amazon and the atlantans and the humans have had those boxes before Superman got
• 30:23
  here I don't know it was a little silly in that sense I just don't know why he
• 30:27
  blew up the plan I thought that was the opposite of what he wanted I was very
• 30:30
  confused by that b and they never really addressed that could been oh that's it
• 30:35
  was cool but it didn't make any sense no there's a lot of movie that doesn't make
• 30:40
  sense to me like why it was made de Justice League check it out I
• 30:45
  guess it's a thumbs up from me done DUS never watching it again and what was
• 30:50
  ended up being like six parts and the epilog whereas it's not before that we
• 30:55
  heard it was going to be yeah he uh he said in an interview this week they
• 31:00
  asked him about that and he said oh yeah the studio was floating that and um it
• 31:03
  was just two up in the air and he was like you know what I'm just going to
• 31:05
  stick with my 4our movie that I've made thanks and then they were like okay but
• 31:09
  I also found weird cuz I missed sort of the first two went through quite quick
• 31:14
  and then I think the other was a bit spaced out but I don't actually quite
• 31:17
  understand what the different parts were no need there was no need to put chapter
• 31:22
  headings in there no it's not an essay it but it didn't like the the different
• 31:28
  parts didn't really have like a big ending and like we're changing the
• 31:31
  storyline or anything there was no dramatic like went back ah but but this
• 31:37
  is really going on yeah you're right it was very self-indulgent yeah on multiple
• 31:42
  levels but to be honest could have could have gone worse for that I would say
• 31:46
  this was you know we talk about you know the George Lucas and the and the Peter
• 31:51
  Jackson effect like this was still fine
• 31:56
  I want to know did people get paid twice I wondered that too cuz people came back
• 32:02
  must have they must have there's no there's there's no way Ben Affleck would
• 32:05
  come back unless he made it worth his while Zack Snider apparently no money no
• 32:10
  oh he just wanted to finish it that's cool yeah I imagine probably um probably
• 32:16
  got points on the back Aquaman was [ __ ] all about this too he probably
• 32:19
  did it for free I imagine he probably would have done it for free I don't know
• 32:22
  if he did well actually yeah I don't think yeah I don't think there was much
• 32:26
  re-shoot with him was there yeah probably not I guess probably not he
• 32:29
  don't think he had much else cuz originally it was good we don't need to
• 32:32
  re-shoot anything to we need to reshoot some of this stuff and well I think
• 32:36
  almost all the re-shoot were non primary cast related so all the villages singing
• 32:41
  that was all re-shoot all of the stuffi was that was I would have thought that
• 32:46
  was already there because I thought I thought mostly it was just the ending
• 32:50
  you know the postapocalyptic [ __ ] any any scenes with all extras where you
• 32:55
  don't see one of the main casts standing in the frame chances are that's a
• 33:00
  re-shoot yeah right I love that [ __ ] Vi at the end it's so Zack Snider where
• 33:04
  Batman's like when I kill you and I will [ __ ] kill you [ __ ] kill you I did
• 33:09
  like that L I did like that Jesus Christ yeah yeah I mean this is a different
• 33:14
  Batman obviously even in the context of kills the Joker to [ __ ]
• 33:19
  off I like I know what they were trying with that whole like alter like they
• 33:22
  have to go back in time but they it sort of doesn't really explain like what
• 33:26
  happened how did she hon ending the ending was tacked on to to wrap up some
• 33:31
  of those plot points that were left dangling like the flash going back in
• 33:35
  time they have the flash looking just in case yeah just in case the internet
• 33:42
  yelled loudly enough a second time and Warner Brothers decided to give him more
• 33:46
  money to do a sequel he wanted the door wide open yeah I I I do think that there
• 33:52
  will be a sequel to this I guess do we we don't know how this is doing it's
• 33:55
  hard to tell my prediction my prediction is that there will be as well well yeah
• 33:58
  how do they make money off this with HBO Max subscriptions like how do they I
• 34:01
  guess they have a lot of data about who's watching it from the because it's
• 34:05
  all tracked but I guess how do how do they determine if this was worthwhile
• 34:10
  yeah does eyeballs mean money in a direct sense now that people
• 34:14
  aren't buying a a CU there's yeah there's no ads or anything like so I
• 34:18
  just wonder how how they're making back the [ __ ] excessive amount of money
• 34:23
  they spent on redoing this for the second time yeah cuz they spend a lot of
• 34:28
  money to redo it with J Sweden mhm but yeah [ __ ] the balls on Zack Snider
• 34:33
  where they're like all right you can finish it but you you can't have any
• 34:36
  extra money he's like all right have a couple million doar M yeah and they're
• 34:40
  like fine all right um can I have some millions and they're like can I $7
• 34:45
  million yeah [ __ ] hell all right cuz you already given me the other Millions
• 34:51
  so you might as well just give me a little bit more and otherwise I can't
• 34:54
  finish it I'm just I'm watching the behind the scenes things too I'm
• 34:57
  actually I am really glad that he got to do this because you can tell just from
• 35:01
  watching him talk that he really loves these films like he loves working on
• 35:06
  them and he really wanted to to to do it his way and I just wish he would do a
• 35:10
  better job of them and some bad [ __ ] happened and he wasn't able to do it so
• 35:15
  I'm glad he got to do it I I Al I think it's just cuz I don't like Superman you
• 35:18
  don't like him no he can just do everything and he's invincible and yeah
• 35:24
  I am glad that they didn't have Superman show up and say did somebody say just
• 35:27
  ERS in this version cuz that was [ __ ]
• 35:31
  awful I felt that they balanced that quite well in this Luke I felt that
• 35:37
  cyborg was just as [ __ ] they were all
• 35:41
  Invincible yeah that's that's that's before I think that's my problem like
• 35:46
  they were all there was Cyborg had all Superman's plowers plus hacking skills
• 35:50
  yes yeah it's never clear when anyone's in any danger like even the flash who in
• 35:55
  theory should just be a [ __ ] human but now he's got this ability to heal
• 36:01
  fast yeah but like Superman can like I mean not not full on punch him but he
• 36:05
  can get hit by Superman who's trying to kill him and survive and smashed through
• 36:10
  you know Solid Rock and he's all right yeah which I thought his only real power
• 36:13
  was just being fast not yeah being slammed into walls and crushing through
• 36:18
  concrete and going why is Aquaman a [ __ ] able to do any of the stuff that
• 36:23
  he's able to do he can he's a under sea guy breathe underwater can breath under
• 36:27
  and talk to animals and also smash to a building he didn't just talk to fish I
• 36:31
  don't think he could talk to all animals but I love it that like Aquaman not part
• 36:35
  of this adventure until we get flooded and now he's here and then they all stop
• 36:42
  running and they're like who's that I don't know you you ever seen this guy
• 36:45
  before no I don't know should we should we keep running away from the water does
• 36:49
  look like it does look like he's exerting some effort and it might not
• 36:52
  work for much longer they did that a couple times they did it again at the
• 36:55
  end when Batman busts through the [ __ ] Shield which [ __ ] that was
• 37:01
  ballsy too cuz remember he shot a missile at the shield and it opened a
• 37:04
  little hole and he was like all right I'll just fly head first at it and shoot
• 37:07
  and hopefully that'll work and then he crashes and then they're all just
• 37:10
  standing around going you all right Bruce you're I kind of don't understand
• 37:15
  why he dropped them off early when why don't they just come with him through
• 37:19
  the shield and then they all jum out and disperse then yeah M but then but like
• 37:23
  why are they waiting to see if he's why
• 37:26
  four people can fly to get dropped off
• 37:31
  in the first place yeah it's like when you see a bird
• 37:37
  crossing the street and then it sees your car so it like speeds up its little
• 37:41
  run and you're like Fly Away
• 37:45
  M the thing that I liked the least though out of everything was that cuz
• 37:52
  they shot all of these additional battle sequences for the exposition and
• 37:57
  prehistory of the mother boxes MH and Wonder Woman tells Bruce Wayne all about
• 38:04
  it yeah y but if you've got slabs and slabs of dialogue it's not the person
• 38:09
  with English as a second language that you give that to did you watch that um
• 38:14
  the the the gag reel for Wonder Woman 1984 that I you I did I [ __ ] love
• 38:19
  Chris Pine Charming making fun of her accent oh I love planes oh look at the
• 38:26
  planes yeah but yeah you're right like why would you have her like it's it it
• 38:32
  really sounded like she was reading off a piece of paper the tone was different
• 38:36
  when they cut away from shots of her looking at Bruce Wayne talking yeah it
• 38:41
  was clearly just recorded as a voiceover later and not her fault she's like like
• 38:45
  you said not her fault at all she said English she not her first language she
• 38:48
  does perfectly fine job as Wonder Woman 90% of the time but she's not good at
• 38:52
  reading it like complicated slabs of
• 38:55
  dialogue yeah yeah and don't let us sing
• 38:59
  anymore did she sing in this not in this oh just on the internet she sings on the
• 39:05
  inet yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah imagine they all saying imagine yeah she she
• 39:11
  sang to make co go away yeah I I guess
• 39:14
  it worked I don't know I've not got Co so be judging thanks gal thank you
• 39:21
  speaking of of slabs of exposition and and people who shouldn't be reading it
• 39:25
  um I saw a play last night yeah that I wanted to mention for somebody who was a
• 39:30
  theater major and then got a theater degree and um subscribes as season
• 39:36
  tickets to Sydney Theater Company I I realized I don't think I like plays
• 39:41
  they're not very good they're never very good I like funny plays and musicals I
• 39:48
  don't like anything serious I think in theory plays a good
• 39:52
  but and I were trying to think of a good one that we'd seen like that we actually
• 39:57
  like we we really couldn't think of many examples this play we saw last night
• 40:01
  starred Sam Worthington and I honestly would have rather watched Avatar again
• 40:07
  than see this [ __ ] play it was so TR and on the nose um and of course it was
• 40:13
  all about [ __ ] racism and sexism and classism and all you know whatever you
• 40:19
  could squeeze into a play sure what made it worthwhile was something that
• 40:23
  happened offstage right so H and I amusing as as well that like 20 years
• 40:30
  ago when we started watching plays we were always the youngest people in the
• 40:33
  theater right in the audience and even though now I'm in my 40s I'm still the
• 40:37
  youngest [ __ ] play audiences are very very old I don't think kids know plays
• 40:43
  are no sitting next to me uh were these two really old women your classic
• 40:49
  Grandma types right mhm in the play there's a character who's secretly gay
• 40:55
  mhm and there's a bit where he's trying to watch porn quietly but he's got the
• 41:00
  sound up so he presses play right and for a second you hear come on [ __ ] my
• 41:06
  ass daddy right and then he like presses pause right where is this happening who
• 41:12
  does that in a public place anyway go on and no no no he's it's he's in a he's by
• 41:18
  himself but he's in a quiet house okay all right at at night right he's just
• 41:22
  looking around to make sure no one else he didn't wake anyone up with it gotcha
• 41:25
  so when that comes out [ __ ] my ass daddy you know the audience gasps you know
• 41:31
  that moment right yeah the woman to down from me Whispers to her friend what did he
• 41:38
  say and the woman this other old woman just turns to her and says [ __ ] me in
• 41:45
  the ass
• 41:49
  Daddy and she is and then she said all right later but what did he say but like
• 41:55
  not just like oh he was watching porn not just verbatim said it back to her it
• 42:00
  was amazing I was like suddenly it's worth me coming to this play to have
• 42:05
  heard this old lady say
• 42:07
  that so would you SN cut versus the play
• 42:12
  I guess I would watch 10 hours of the SN cut every day of my life if you told me
• 42:19
  that was the only way to avoid ever seeing this play again wow all right
• 42:24
  garbage absolute garbage and what makes it worse for me and I know this is
• 42:30
  probably a little bit arrogant but I just know that everyone in that play
• 42:36
  thinks they're saying something real clever sure you know mhm and that
• 42:41
  irritates me like at the end they come out and they're bowing like they're just
• 42:45
  [ __ ] blown my [ __ ] mind like like I walked in there as a racist and a
• 42:50
  homophobe and now I'm none of those things cuz I saw this [ __ ] play yeah
• 42:54
  pack yourself on the back yeah get off off your pedestal I.E the
• 42:59
  stage actors I don't like it I don't like plays no more plays all right musicals
• 43:06
  is where it's at I thought we were putting on a play the Scottish play yeah
• 43:10
  we are all right but that's the thing too M I'm not calling it I'm calling MC
• 43:15
  Beth I'm not scared come at me Conor McBeth of the clan MCB
• 43:19
  Beth but it's the same I love I love MC Beth it's my favorite of Shakespeare's
• 43:25
  plays probably right never seen it done well I like reading it I but every
• 43:32
  production I've seen has been garbage I went to when I was in high school to his
• 43:36
  credit our Drama teacher tried to take us to they did a that performance of MC
• 43:41
  Beth that was in [ __ ] like warehouses on the docks at in Sydney like do you
• 43:46
  know what I mean there was like a it was like a huge deal at the time but he took
• 43:50
  a bunch of [ __ ] idiot high school kids to see this that's not going to end
• 43:55
  well and then I mean it was a neat because they had these big battles that
• 43:58
  they that they were able to put on cuz they were in this huge space but you
• 44:01
  couldn't hear a [ __ ] word anyone was saying like cuz it was just the nature
• 44:06
  of the thing like if you familiar with the play it probably would have been
• 44:08
  pretty neat but like we were not interested and in the end uh we were
• 44:13
  asked to leave because oh wow yeah and I always I always think back then I feel
• 44:18
  bad for my my Drama teacher cuz he tried but uh but Matt he probably tried every
• 44:24
  year with every class and he probably got kicked out every time so to him for
• 44:28
  keeping it on trying yeah I uh I was at one particular I saw mcth done once
• 44:34
  where it was like gangster style like 1930s Chicago right but MC Beth and
• 44:40
  there's this famous Soliloquy where um lady MCB Beth is kind of praying to have
• 44:46
  her femininity Stripped Away so that she has the balls to murder somebody she
• 44:52
  think she was trans yeah that's right well she talks about her breasts a lot
• 44:56
  she's like bosom this and that and there was these two teenage boys in the front
• 45:02
  row who would you know that teenage boy
• 45:06
  trying not to laugh laugh oh yeah it was just
• 45:11
  that yeah just
• 45:15
  that like a balloon about to lose all its air yeah and of course the more they
• 45:21
  laughed the more everyone else laughed and then because it was an intimate
• 45:25
  theater setting the the actress you could see it in her face when she knew
• 45:30
  there was another line coming up that would probably provoke them
• 45:36
  y oh man you joked earlier but do you think we could do a a new version of MC
• 45:42
  Beth that was like a mashup with Highlander yes all right then all right
• 45:49
  let's do it mhm okay what would that be M Beth is an
• 45:56
  immortal yeah I mean he doesn't know but I mean we'd have to make Duncan is an
• 46:02
  immortal as well and and he cuts off his head that's the king Luke so that's one
• 46:09
  quickening but then Matt Duff who comes in in the end to slay MC Beth he he's
• 46:15
  got to be one too yeah that's got to be but everyone else just thinks he's just
• 46:19
  a [ __ ] great warrior doesn't know that he's actually Immortal and we got
• 46:24
  to get Clancy Brown to be in it somehow yeah I actually don't think that'll be as
• 46:29
  hard as you think I was actually I was about to say we should try get
• 46:33
  Christopher lamber but I doubt that' be very hard either the [ __ ] how is
• 46:36
  Christopher Lambert not a huge star I know like Teenage me thought he was best
• 46:41
  I think I think in France he's a bigger star than you probably give him credit
• 46:45
  for yeah although I have re I I think you guys a clip I rewatched uh Fortress
• 46:51
  just to see the this ultimate God I love that movie don't watch the sequel what
• 46:56
  don't watch the first one God it's not what you remember first one long ago
• 47:02
  enjoy that bit where that clip I sent you where he you the truck comes back to
• 47:07
  life oh yes and it's trying to kill him and he shoots it with a flamethrower and
• 47:10
  it crashes into a barn and it [ __ ] explodes half the planet like huge
• 47:15
  explosion I was like see I love for that no no no I'm just saying his performance
• 47:21
  is not good his performance is fine cuz his wife and the baby are in the barn
• 47:25
  and then the truck crashes and he's like no how would you have played it any
• 47:30
  differently that's fair it wasn't great material get in the truck we're going to
• 47:35
  leave yeah if you don't believe he's a great actor just think back to that
• 47:39
  scene in Highlander where he first meets the little girl in Nazi Germany and he's
• 47:44
  holding the machine gun and the German soldiers barking at him in German and he
• 47:49
  just goes whatever you say Jack you're the master race and then just [ __ ] machine
• 47:55
  guns yeah they would have watched that again mhm why doesn't he have a Scottish
• 48:00
  accent why why does Spanish Egyptian have
• 48:05
  a the only one who does these are the questions Jenna was asking me when I
• 48:10
  made her watch Highlander she there's no answers to those questions yeah actually
• 48:15
  there is there is practical answers but I think we discussed this a few weeks
• 48:18
  ago right probably the producers sold they bought the script without reading
• 48:24
  it they just got told this is going to be the next script they said it was
• 48:28
  called Highlander and it's said in Scotland so they went to sha connory and
• 48:32
  you like to play the Highlander he read the script and said I don't think you've
• 48:36
  read this and uh he said I can't I can't play the Highland but if you want I'll
• 48:41
  play The Old Man and they were like fine yeah then they went and got a Frenchman
• 48:47
  to play the Scot and then they made a sequel sort of then they made many
• 48:53
  sequels yeah no I think I'm going to watch Highlander this week of the side
• 48:56
  of all right time you should actually wasn't article this week recently about
• 49:02
  an interview with Clancy Brown was it maybe it was his birthday or something
• 49:05
  and uh so they were doing a little retrospective thing on some website is
• 49:08
  that why cuz Clancy brand has been cropping up in the media a little bit
• 49:11
  yeah I mean he's he's still alive so I mean yeah or something some some reason
• 49:18
  Clancy Brown's been in the news so yeah I've started doing something weird so
• 49:23
  when Xbox have sales out on movies if I see something that's for a good price
• 49:27
  even if it's on a streaming service but I know it's a movie I like I'm starting
• 49:31
  to buy them okay okay so for those times where you go I want to watch this and
• 49:36
  then you go to stream so if it's stop there yeah I now have it and yeah yeah
• 49:42
  they a bit like what we used to do when if there was a good a movie you liked
• 49:46
  you would just want to own the DVD so that if you ever wanted to watch it it
• 49:51
  was there yeah and now I have a huge crate of DVDs that are in the basement
• 49:56
  cuz I don't use now I I threw mine out 100 sort of movies on Xbox now that I
• 50:02
  brought for five bucks yeah like just every week I have a look and go yep I
• 50:06
  like that I'm getting it yeah no I buy some too from time I bought Groundhog
• 50:10
  Day the other day cuz it was $3 and I was like that's a great movie and I will
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  want to watch it again at some point so have you guys seen Palm Springs no I
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  know you're not a fan of Andy Samberg Luke I think I know this this is that um
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  yeah I didn't actually like that movie oh you didn't I thought it was quite
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  Charming the only thing I didn't like about it was that I couldn't believe you
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  could just remake Groundhog Day call it something else and then just not have
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  anyone go this is Groundhog Day is it this is already a movie there's already
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  there's another movie out at the moment as well that's the same story about two
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  people finding themselves trapped in a loop and there's also that uh Natasha
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  Leon one um yeah I thought was a little different yeah that actually I thought
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  that was quite good Russian dolls oh I know what you mean I know
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  what you mean yeah yeah yeah but I don't there's just something about yeah these
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  time Loop things is that's Happy Happy death day was like that as well actually
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  that was a good movie happy death day was good yeah that
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  a good movie yeah where there's a serial killer and she keeps getting murdered
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  and waking up and it's the morning and then she has to solve the murder it's
• 51:22
  that was a good movie okay I might watch it I probably won we're almost running
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  out of time in this episode because we talked for over halfway about Justice
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  League yeah it is Snider's fault this could be a 4-Hour episode I guess power
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  two yeah yeah so this is part two yeah that's right well there's
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  there's at least one thing I feel like we should talk about uh I don't know if
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  that's the same way same place you're going Dan or something that's perhaps
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  time sensitive okay go on oh no I don't mean I have to say it immediately I just
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  mean by the time this comes out no no no but I mean even so proceed and talk
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  about it please that wasn't well um by the time 81 it's too
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  late it's too late actually it's it's not it's I've just done the maths and I've I've done
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  the maths wrong but uh I'll talk about it anyway in one week's time uh the
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  director's cut of disco alium is scheduled for release Yes except that it
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  is refused classification in Australia which means one of two things mhm it
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  means it's definitely not coming out on Xbox next week yes right it wasn't any
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  but sorry yeah no it wasn't it wasn't
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  but it may just not now it may or may not update on Steam the reason it still
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  might is because it's considered an update and not a new game mhm and it
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  never had to go through classification the first time around and all the
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  offensive stuff is not in the update it's in the main game it's one of these
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  weird things for some reason if the game in to show they don't have a console
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  release they don't have to go through the classification process but the
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  second they go to Playstation or Xbox they have to go through yeah so what's
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  going to happen is once they release the Xbox version cuz there is a dis version
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  Matt's going to buy it for me and send it cuz then I haven't purchased it it
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  hasn't been sold in Australia and I can play it still this article doesn't have
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  the quote that they I don't think that they gave about why they refused A classification
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  [Music]
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  [ __ ] hell all right okay wow well what does it say about us it deals with matters of sex
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  drug misuse or addiction crime cruelty violence or revolting or abhorent
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  phenomena in such a way that they offend against the standards of morality
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  decency and propriety generally accepted by Reon revolting or abhorrent phenomena
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  okay for starters for starters yes there is a lot of drug use you are a drug
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  addict but you don't like being a drug addict no right you take drugs because
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  you are a drug addict you don't have to take the drugs necessarily you could not
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  yeah I mean you you may you may you may die from withdraw
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  point or you may trip over a wheelchair and die anyway my plan is still I will
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  be playing this game and streaming it well we talked on Twitter briefly about
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  this I think it would be fun uh I was just joking when I said it can't believe
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  do you guys have [ __ ] Twitter conversations I do think it'll be fun do
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  I have to [ __ ] get on Twitter again just so I'm not miss that out it's
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  strange I've been on Twitter U like the last few months I've been jumping on the
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  Twitter and have been commenting get Twitter jez I think it would be fun
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  chatting with listeners I think it would be fun for one of us to stream the game
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  and we could just talk about what to do like I mean it would take [ __ ]
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  forever but I feel like we could that could be a fun thing to do is just we'll
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  play Disco alium together it would also be easier with the director's cut
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  because there's nothing that's just text now it's all voiced it wouldn't be like
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  we'd have to read it to one another first good point yeah Luke actually
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  would be able to play the game more effectively now yeah yeah so we you have
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  to wait till it come to Xbox One and get achievements yes yes Fair it's all about
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  the achievements Fair my milons around the corner yep me
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  too yep just any day now for you don't think I've got any achievements this
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  week Matt maybe you and I can combine our score and maybe then we'll be closer
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  to a million yeah no you'd be closer but
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  nowhere need being close it'd be 35,000 I don't think he'd even be close to
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  100,000 no it wouldn't be I think you said Matt's 30 something and I'm sure
• 56:39
  I'm less so yeah I've just been playing Conan don't get any achievements
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  940 wait no I did get some this week cuz I I ran around the map I um I stripped
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  nak it and went for a run around the map and I got I got you can run faster and
• 56:55
  your stamina long so I just dropped all my stuff off stripped off naked and ran
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  North and I ended up in the Northlands just went and explored that's actually I
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  got murdered by my own people in in a nordheimer village bastards oh sure yeah
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  um you'll notice that there's a couple of employees working for us now I did
• 57:16
  notice that there one's working in the kitchen dumb too cuz I I went over I
• 57:20
  built that [ __ ] little camp on the South Bank of the river to to catch
• 57:24
  people and pop them in the in theel and and then you just started
• 57:30
  doing it back at the base where I couldn't I couldn't knock anyone out
• 57:33
  over there so now I was like oh well I should have just tried harder I guess
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  I'm going to apologize I can just not get into the game oh my God just
• 57:41
  literally literally we can't let you in or no no no I don't know why I I I try
• 57:46
  but there's just no incentive for me to play it maybe we need to be on he's
• 57:51
  already got all the achievements there they've broken him I've got one
• 57:55
  achievement I need and I need to cheat to get it yeah I need to stand on your
• 57:59
  head and Crush you no incentive fun well you'll have to you'll have to play a
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  game to to do that Luke I don't play games for fun anymore I'm not I I actually I am
• 58:11
  playing games for fun I'm playing Fallout 4 for fun I enjoying that game
• 58:15
  well you'll be you'll be pleased to know that there's uh there's more Story
• 58:19
  coming oh no that's Fallout 76 so never mind well that that I mean we could talk
• 58:23
  about that briefly too I don't think there's a whole lot to discuss but that
• 58:26
  might be a way of because we've talked about playing that before as well and
• 58:30
  there wasn't a whole lot to do we could maybe give that a shot when this update
• 58:32
  comes out yeah yeah I'm back on Game Pass now so yes with that one I I
• 58:38
  hopefully if it's got crossplay to' be good because I've unlocked a fair amount
• 58:41
  of achievements on the Xbox but not on the PC so if I can play with you don't
• 58:46
  give a [ __ ] about the achievement I hate that this is a thing now it's like I
• 58:50
  know right Luke's like this game is really fun I don't care about fun I only
• 58:54
  care about [ __ ] achievements I hate that fact I really do but you know love
• 59:01
  I'd love for Luke to get banned somehow yeah from achievements like for
• 59:07
  them yeah for to get caught cheating and he does cheat so for him to get caught
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  cheating I do not cheat thank you very much just going to report luk I'm just
• 59:16
  going to keep sending reports like he's racist he's racist is he da racist on
• 59:20
  the Xbox no but he is I trust me I know we don't want him banned from Xbox we
• 59:25
  just want him we just take away his achievements points to not accumulate
• 59:29
  yeah take away that's what I'm going to tell him I don't want you to ban
• 59:34
  him just disable achievements
• 59:38
  yeah just ter we want him back he's sick and he needs help and only you can help
• 59:43
  him it isn't an addiction it is yes it is I mean I guess it's not the worst
• 59:48
  thing you could be addicted to what is the worst thing you could be addicted to
• 59:53
  um probably heroin I was about to say probably heroin I don't know um no I
• 59:58
  think things way worse than heroin like what I miss nicotine no but you now you
• 1:00:04
  just listing substances now whereas like getting achievements is a thing
• 1:00:10
  like if we if we're including doing things as things you can be addicted to
• 1:00:15
  there's you mean like like like serial killer or something what was I going to
• 1:00:20
  say oh oh right yeah okay speaking of which I watched that documentary Alan
• 1:00:25
  versus pharoh this week oh I've I've not watched it I've read people talking
• 1:00:30
  about it quite interesting quite interesting yeah right don't even know
• 1:00:33
  what it is it's about W Woody Allen yeah oh sorry oh Woody sorry I didn't hear
• 1:00:39
  the Woody part how you say w he touched a children
• 1:00:44
  yeah his I've I've read people's you know chatter about it I've not watched
• 1:00:48
  it but from what I hear it's it's both they're both not good for him but then
• 1:00:53
  also there's bits of it where they're like wow you you've gone a bit too far
• 1:00:57
  on that one so it raises more questions than it answers kind of thing yes is he
• 1:01:02
  is he a thing anymore or is that why they've made it now because he's the
• 1:01:06
  thing about no no no no th this is funded by the Pharaoh family and
• 1:01:12
  actually if I have one criticism it's that it's very singles sided so like at
• 1:01:17
  at nowhere in it do they say also Mia faroh is a bit of a
• 1:01:22
  sociopath yeah it glosses over all that stuff yeah and two of her kids committed
• 1:01:28
  suicide two it's not that doesn't mean that if W Allen did something that makes
• 1:01:33
  her okay correct it is odd to just and and and also it doesn't paint a complete
• 1:01:39
  picture and apparently obviously so if you know if they just keep leaving stuff
• 1:01:44
  out and you're like well why aren't you mentioning that yes however even with
• 1:01:48
  that in mind I now am inclined to it doesn't look good it doesn't look good
• 1:01:53
  for him and here's why here's this is not proof this is just the even the
• 1:01:58
  things he does admit to are a bit gross
• 1:02:02
  right yeah so you know like even if you
• 1:02:07
  just take him on just the stuff that he said he did he admits to yeah yeah he's
• 1:02:13
  probably still not a very nice man but does that mean we can't enjoy his movies
• 1:02:20
  no I like his movies well but here's the thing here's the thing Matt right cuz
• 1:02:24
  you could argue well movies aren't about molesting kids actually several of them
• 1:02:29
  are yeah exactly several of his films he
• 1:02:34
  has very very young girls yeah yeah I don't think I've ever seen one Luke have
• 1:02:40
  you ever seen a movie I would have he something that I might have seen match
• 1:02:44
  point was pretty popular is that a tennis movie I know I know you haven't
• 1:02:48
  yes tennis movie okay yeah no I haven't seen that Scarlett Johansson Scarlet
• 1:02:53
  Johansson no okay oh yeah cu a lot of flack at the time well actually
• 1:02:58
  everybody who was in a movie with him these days cops a lot of flack there's a
• 1:03:01
  trend now anyone who wants to kind of say they're sorry for being in an a
• 1:03:07
  Allen movie donates the pay that they got to a charity is it the pay that they
• 1:03:12
  get or the pay that they receive now I think it they're different things I
• 1:03:17
  think it's probably yeah the check I get now for 40 cents that that I donate
• 1:03:22
  straight to the charity the 4 million I got back then paid out that's already
• 1:03:26
  been spent I can't donate that and those that didn't go on to
• 1:03:31
  become big stars just probably keep their mouth shut because they can't
• 1:03:34
  afford to do that yeah that's right except those that went on to be big
• 1:03:38
  stars because they started on Woody Allen movie also keeping their mouth
• 1:03:42
  shut yeah Fair Point yeah we've got uh there's another director we'll talk
• 1:03:47
  about in the Afterparty I guess that's coming up if you'd like to hear it head
• 1:03:51
  to patreon.com multiple nerdgasm give us money I mean he's one of my fa directors
• 1:03:56
  not because he directs good films but because he's a very very entertaining
• 1:04:01
  character except that maybe he's not tune in next to find out what if Richard
• 1:04:07
  Stanley was a [ __ ] with spoilers he is
• 1:04:12
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