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8-04-26 Hour 3 - Riley Moss vs Jahdae Barron/Adam Schefter/Updated Broncos stadium plans · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Caine on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: Back out at a chili broncos Park. It Dove Valley
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  Speaker 2: training camp coverage brought to you by Ramos La Raje
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  Speaker 2: filling in for Brett Caine and a chittery Mark Mosure
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  Speaker 2: alongside Vick Lombardo.
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  Speaker 3: Broh, it's cold, man. Yesterday it was one hundred degrees.
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  Speaker 4: The worst kind of cold is the cold you least expect.
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  Speaker 4: And that's where we are right now. To help you
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  Speaker 4: out here, little help raise out there, buddy, the least
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  Speaker 4: you didn't expect it this morning. You expected it to
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  Speaker 4: be a little nicer, but not cold. And now it's
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  Speaker 4: getting colder by the hour, it seems. And I don't understand.
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  Speaker 5: Why is that guy checking for worms too?
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  Speaker 4: Could be but that's where we are, the cold you
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  Speaker 4: least expect. And again, Moser, I was up at two
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  Speaker 4: fifteen am, Dude, it.
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  Speaker 6: Was warmer at It was warmer at three am and
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  Speaker 6: four um than it is right now. But after the
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  Speaker 6: sun came up, man, what what are we doing on
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  Speaker 6: nature What's what's going on with you, lady.
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  Speaker 3: Someone's got something to say out there, because this is crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Now look here.
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  Speaker 6: Tomorrow it's gonna be eighty seven Thursday ninety seven, Friday
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  Speaker 6: ninety six, Saturday one hundred degrees again.
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  Speaker 3: Crazy day, man, crazy day.
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  Speaker 5: Vicky, you said you had something you want to that's it.
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  Speaker 7: I just want to show up the weather in the
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  Speaker 7: break right before we come back.
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  Speaker 3: He fellas.
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  Speaker 5: I got I got something to talk about. Hold on,
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  Speaker 5: I got a topic for us.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that's a bigg that's a big.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really big in there.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody's making fun of us, saying, guys, don't you have
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  Speaker 4: weather apps?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I have a weather app. I'm wearing sweats. It's Roger
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  Speaker 4: that's not wearing sweats. He's the one that's not prepared
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  Speaker 4: for Well. I've got my flip, but I've got the
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  Speaker 4: I got the pullover on.
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  Speaker 3: See. This is perfect for the players. You can't meet
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  Speaker 3: the players. They're gonna love this. They're gonna love it.
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  Speaker 2: I loved this yesterday. They'll be out in spiders at
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  Speaker 2: the very most today.
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  Speaker 4: It's great exercise weather. It's great running weather, great cycling weather.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is great out to you.
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  Speaker 6: You know what you missed radio, You know what I
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  Speaker 6: miss You know what you missed in being a younger dude.
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  Speaker 3: You know what you missed? The art of the two days.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I mean years morning session, lunch,
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  Speaker 6: the little film, blah blah blah blah blah, and you
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  Speaker 6: come on back and then you've got another session in
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  Speaker 6: the afternoon. Hell, Irvin, Joe used to be out here
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  Speaker 6: and in Colorado, as we know, the afternoons can get
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  Speaker 6: a bit sketchy at times.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, you're just dodging thunderstorm.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, the first crack of a thunderstorm, the first crack
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  Speaker 3: of anything, Joe Williams Brown later. I mean, they'd flee
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  Speaker 3: this place.
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  Speaker 4: It's truly remarkable though most how Rog has one of
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  Speaker 4: our listeners, Steve. Steve sells, are the just just dropped off?
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  Speaker 3: Steve's too nice.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna eat this. I'm just gonna put
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  Speaker 5: it down my pants.
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  Speaker 4: Steve, you're so nice. Really, you treat us way too nicely.
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  Speaker 4: He stops by with burritos. I mean, come on, the
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  Speaker 4: rest of you, listeners, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: What have you done? Where have you been?
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  Speaker 2: I've never loved someone more. I hope my wife's not listening. Actually, Steve,
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  Speaker 2: you're the man, fellas. What are we looking to.
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  Speaker 3: Rather?
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  Speaker 5: What are we looking forward to the most today?
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  Speaker 4: I think today's practice is not gonna be as as
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  Speaker 4: quick as yesterday's because it's a little cooler outside.
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm really anxious.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of activity between Riley Moss and
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  Speaker 4: Courtland Sutton.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you've noticed that, but they love
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  Speaker 3: going at it. They love going toe to toe.
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  Speaker 4: If I had my brothers, I would love if they
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  Speaker 4: just did receiver dB drills all day, because.
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  Speaker 3: You really, that's all I want to see.
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  Speaker 4: Want to see the Broncos receivers goes go up against
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  Speaker 4: the Broncos defensive back strength against strength. I think that's
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  Speaker 4: the only way they get better. And as I see
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  Speaker 4: Riley Moss shine as he did yesterday, I keep asking myself,
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  Speaker 4: if he keeps playing at that level, how is Jaday
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  Speaker 4: Baron ever gonna.
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  Speaker 3: See the field?
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  Speaker 5: I don't think jan A barn.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great, great question. Pick. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna be in your nickel and your dime packages.
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  Speaker 2: If someone gets injured at some point, then he is
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  Speaker 2: a he's a backup corner in that situation, they're playing
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  Speaker 2: the long game with Jade Barn, they're playing the in
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  Speaker 2: your third year in the league, now you step into
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  Speaker 2: a starting role and a lot of people and I
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  Speaker 2: know d Makin will come on between ten and two
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  Speaker 2: and say it's still a disaster of a pick. But
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  Speaker 2: if they play the long game knowing that Riley Moss
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  Speaker 2: probably can't stay here from a salary cap standpoint, I
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  Speaker 2: think that draft pick then looks pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well right now, yeah, well we'll see.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you're you're projecting, you're projecting down the road now, brother,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, a first round pick should be able to
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  Speaker 6: contribute and hit right away?
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  Speaker 3: No, should he not? I don't know, dude. I don't
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  Speaker 3: let go of good talent unless you don't know the
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  Speaker 3: talent behind him.
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  Speaker 6: But let's be honest. Who's the nickel right now? It's
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  Speaker 6: Ja Kwan? Yeah, okay, okay, so it's Ja Kuan. So
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  Speaker 6: he's the dime guy or or he's you know, he's But.
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  Speaker 5: Is that worth a first round pick?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: That's that's my point is the first round pick is
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  Speaker 6: a dime guy. Now, And when you look in front
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  Speaker 6: of him, he's he's got a logjam, he's got no
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  Speaker 6: where to go. I'm not saying you're not right down
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  Speaker 6: down the line here, Roger. I'm just saying, for right now,
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  Speaker 6: this seems seems like you have a first round pick.
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  Speaker 6: You're just kind of stashing and waiting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're quick to You're quick to dismiss Riley and
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  Speaker 4: says he's gone. I mean, I I don't let I
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  Speaker 4: don't let Riley Moss and talent walk out the door.
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  Speaker 3: Lists. I'm positive whoever replaces him, how do you how
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  Speaker 3: do you find a way to keep him again?
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  Speaker 4: I you do what you gotta do to keep him,
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  Speaker 4: because if he can play, he makes that secondary and
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  Speaker 4: that defense that much better.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't dismiss him because you you drafted to
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  Speaker 3: do him the first I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, that's not what I'm doing. I
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  Speaker 5: think you misunderstand me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying you draft Jah de Baron and because
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  Speaker 2: you drafted him, you then have to move Riley out
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  Speaker 2: the door. I'm just looking at the Riley Moss situation
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  Speaker 2: saying I think someone's gonna throw eighteen million dollars at him,
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  Speaker 2: and you simply don't have that cash.
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  Speaker 6: You know, and again you're you're talking about a third
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  Speaker 6: round picking Riley Moss. What in twenty twenty three is
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  Speaker 6: that what it was twenty I mean, and it doesn't
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  Speaker 6: matter where guys are.
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  Speaker 5: Picked, it's just how good they are.
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  Speaker 6: And he's a damn good cornerback, especially with everything that
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  Speaker 6: he sees opposite of Pat.
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  Speaker 4: Certain But this is where the Broncos have gotten really
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  Speaker 4: good at re signing guys, extending guys before those deals
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  Speaker 4: become much more expensive.
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  Speaker 3: They did with Patrick's Ertan. I mean, they did it.
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  Speaker 4: They resign and extended Sir Tan to the point where
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  Speaker 4: they had to come back at the beginning of this
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  Speaker 4: season and say.
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  Speaker 7: You know what, We're gonna give you more marks, thank
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  Speaker 7: you money. They did the Chris Harris thing. Here's money
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  Speaker 7: for nothing, you're handsome. Here take take this extra five mil.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, that's kind of that's kind of the point
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  Speaker 7: that cash that check. You're not gonna get that check.
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  Speaker 5: Dress come on one of these days.
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  Speaker 6: It's the it's the hey man, you look great. Would
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  Speaker 6: you like some more mills? Okay, yeah, that sounds good,
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  Speaker 6: pretty good, thank you.
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  Speaker 5: You know what today is, You're not I think today
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  Speaker 5: is the I think it's the Jalen Waddle day.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean, ads, I think you're gonna see
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  Speaker 2: him on a bunch of one on ones. You're gonna
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  Speaker 2: see the I just think you're gonna see Jayleen Waddle
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  Speaker 2: run all over the field. Is it gonna matter? Is
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  Speaker 2: it gonna mean anything? Not necessarily, they're not in pads.
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  Speaker 2: I won't really know what he is until Week one,
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  Speaker 2: on that Monday night against Kansas City. But if I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking for something today, jalat.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, we did have a Drew Sanders siding though, right,
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  Speaker 3: He did practice yes today, So that's.
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  Speaker 6: That's good news. I mean, so at least he's able
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  Speaker 6: to get out there on the field.
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  Speaker 3: Is that a bonus this year?
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  Speaker 2: Because the past couple of seasons, you've walked into a
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  Speaker 2: year going Drew Sanders is someone who we are expecting
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  Speaker 2: to have, like he's going to be on this roster,
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  Speaker 2: and then he gets injured and you have to scramble it.
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  Speaker 2: Inside linebacker feels though, and maybe it's a make or
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  Speaker 2: break year for him. It's make or break certainly for him.
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  Speaker 2: But I feel as though going into this season, Drew
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  Speaker 2: Sanders was an afterthought and Now that he's back at
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  Speaker 2: practice and he's healthy, you know, for odd day he
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  Speaker 2: gets to be a bonus player.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, Keep an eye on those guys who
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  Speaker 4: on the periphery, Keep an eye on who plays special teams.
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  Speaker 4: Keep an eye on who's in the special teams groups.
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  Speaker 4: Because he wasn't yesterday when I was watching the punt unit, especially,
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  Speaker 4: he was not in there. And if you're not in
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  Speaker 4: special teams and you're a reserve player, that's trouble.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, maybe he means his way in there.
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  Speaker 5: Does that mean they don't view him as a reserve player.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know yet.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yesterday was the first day he practiced, so
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  Speaker 4: it could have something to do with that. But I'm
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  Speaker 4: I'm telling you, when you watch special teams units line up,
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  Speaker 4: look at the reserves who are playing in those units.
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  Speaker 5: And I didn't see I didn't see it yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah I did.
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  Speaker 5: Did that gigantic wide receiver from the UFL? Was he
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  Speaker 5: in punt coverage.
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  Speaker 3: On a couple reps? Yes? All right? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: And they used every return guy yesterday because you know,
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  Speaker 4: clearly they need to because if Mims isn't in the plans,
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  Speaker 4: they gotta make sure that somebody else is. Although you know,
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  Speaker 4: did you guys hear Sean Payton this week earlier this
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  Speaker 4: week say, Marvin Mims is killing it in this camp.
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  Speaker 3: He's saying some great things about Marvin Mimms. That's good
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  Speaker 3: that he should be.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I again, the deployment of Marvin Mims has
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  Speaker 6: always been sort of a mystery to us, because he's
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  Speaker 6: made some big plays. He's obviously a guy that we
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  Speaker 6: like on a personal level very well, so we're rooting
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  Speaker 6: for him. But he's a guy that brings an element
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  Speaker 6: or broad an element that nobody else could and still
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  Speaker 6: does for that matter. I mean, so I said, I'm
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  Speaker 6: glad they're maybe they'll deploy.
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  Speaker 3: Him even more.
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  Speaker 4: I've said it all along, even when they signed Jalen
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  Speaker 4: Waddle and they made that happen and Mims sitting there
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  Speaker 4: going what.
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  Speaker 3: What do I do? What?
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  Speaker 4: Why is it so wrong? Why isn't anybody thinking about
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  Speaker 4: the opportunity to use.
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  Speaker 3: Both of them?
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  Speaker 4: Why not in the lineup at the same time. Why
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  Speaker 4: can't you use both of them? There's no rule against it.
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  Speaker 3: So you have two guys sign same body size, same
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  Speaker 3: style of playing.
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  Speaker 6: Right, utilize them. There's nothing wrong with that, I'm totally fine.
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  Speaker 6: Even though they're not Sean Payton's prototypical type of guy.
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  Speaker 6: They can play and they can make plays.
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  Speaker 3: Rash.
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  Speaker 5: I will go back to what I said on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: You guys were long gone by the time I made
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  Speaker 2: this proclamation around two pm on Friday. Bo led the
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  Speaker 2: league in pass attempts last year, and the thought process
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  Speaker 2: going into this offseason was they don't want him to
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  Speaker 2: throw the ball that much. They want to get that
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  Speaker 2: number farther down.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Is it take the ball completely out of his hands? No,
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  Speaker 2: I just look at Jalen Wattle and Marvin Mims and
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  Speaker 2: what Pat Bryant looks like in the early going, and
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  Speaker 2: Troy Franklin was not utilized as much yesterday, but through
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  Speaker 2: the first two days of practice it was the Troy
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  Speaker 2: Franklin show alongside Courtland Sutton.
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  Speaker 3: I look at all of those.
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  Speaker 2: Weapons that he has at his disposal, and I go,
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  Speaker 2: in what world is he not throwing the football six
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  Speaker 2: hundred times?
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  Speaker 4: He's gonna throw it and he's gonna throw short again,
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  Speaker 4: and you're gonna look at the different this shared that
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  Speaker 4: a short receiver withou speed. Make sorry, I want to
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  Speaker 4: shift attention to the Cleveland Browns training. Oh, and this
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  Speaker 4: is a story that's in the athletic The biggest lesson
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  Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns learned from last season had nothing to
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  Speaker 4: do with on field performance and everything to do with
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  Speaker 4: off field. The Browns never properly bent the knee to
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  Speaker 4: Dion Sanders and his legion of fans last year after
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  Speaker 4: selecting Shador Sanders in the NFL Draft. They've spent the
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  Speaker 4: past seven months trying to rectify that oversight. In fact,
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  Speaker 4: shortly after Todd Monkin was introduced as the head coach,
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  Speaker 4: one of the first orders of business was rushing out
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  Speaker 4: a social media eclip of Monkin welcoming Chadeur to his office.
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  Speaker 4: And just this week, last week, they welcomed Dion Sanders
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  Speaker 4: to practice. He was there outstretching. So it's a completely
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  Speaker 4: different approach now to the Sanders family as a year ago.
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  Speaker 4: A year ago was just arms length your quarterback, year player.
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  Speaker 4: We don't care who you are, what family you're from.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see what you can do this year. Completely different.
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  Speaker 5: What's changed from last year to this year? Coach, that's
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  Speaker 5: exactly coach, brand new coach.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the coach last year, the coach last year was
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  Speaker 3: sort of a jerk about it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know why.
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  Speaker 3: You remember absolutely remember a player.
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  Speaker 5: Who very clearly struggles.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean he didn't have to be He
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  Speaker 4: just didn't have to be a jerk about it. And
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  Speaker 4: I think we could all agree there were times you're like, dude,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, what are you doing here?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but how far is that going to go for them?
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  Speaker 2: When Shador is a backup quarterback to Deshaun Watson.
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  Speaker 3: It's just it's okay, Well, it would be like, I'll
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  Speaker 3: give you an example.
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  Speaker 4: If Peyton Manning's son Marshall was in Broncos camp and
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  Speaker 4: you're the head coach, are you gonna be a jerk
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  Speaker 4: about it?
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  Speaker 3: Or you're going to welcome Peyton Manning to your camp?
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  Speaker 4: Are you gonna welcome Peyton Manning and in the ensemble
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  Speaker 4: of Manning's and say, hey, we you know you're You're
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  Speaker 4: welcome here anytime?
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  Speaker 3: Are you going to be the standoffish.
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  Speaker 6: As Kevin Kevin Stefanski was standoffish, slightly different Peyton played
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  Speaker 6: football here.
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  Speaker 4: He says that a different it says Jacksonville. Then I
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  Speaker 4: mean it doesn't matter. I mean the point is, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Dion Sanders. Say what you want of him. He's he's
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  Speaker 4: football royalty.
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  Speaker 2: He is, but there is no there's no loyalty from God.
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  Speaker 2: But wind to have to show Dion Sanders just like
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  Speaker 2: if he was Peyton Manning and Jacksonville with his nephew
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  Speaker 2: or his son playing quarterback. There's no reason why Jacksonville
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  Speaker 2: should have to roll out the al carpet for someone
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  Speaker 2: who has no physical connection to that.
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  Speaker 3: Franch Alex, you're missing the point.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not at all. Let me explain. We've all backup quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: We've all been around guys when you go you know
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  Speaker 6: that guy, that guy's an a hole.
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  Speaker 3: For No, he doesn't have to be that way. Why
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  Speaker 3: is that guy the way he is?
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  Speaker 6: That's the that That was basically the relationship last year
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  Speaker 6: between Stefanski and Prime. I'm not saying roll out red carpet.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not saying welcome with open arms like, oh thank
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  Speaker 6: god you're here.
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  Speaker 3: That's what the article is.
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  Speaker 6: Say no, no, but he they went out of their
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  Speaker 6: way to exclude is what they did.
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  Speaker 8: Did.
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  Speaker 6: That's that's that's the difference between Stefanski and Monkin. That
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  Speaker 6: it's not like you have to to you know, marry
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  Speaker 6: be married to the guy.
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  Speaker 4: At the end of the day made the best quarterback win.
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  Speaker 4: They're not getting the job to him because of his name,
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  Speaker 4: but they're at least being understanding that, hey, this this
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  Speaker 4: is a little different than the normal case.
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  Speaker 3: It just is.
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  Speaker 5: And I would understand if he was on a trajectory
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  Speaker 5: to be a true long term starting.
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  Speaker 3: Well, how do you know he's how do you know
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  Speaker 3: he's not. He's still a pup.
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  Speaker 5: He's still a pup. But last year it did not
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  Speaker 5: look good.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: There were times where he flashed for many more times
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: where he was running around with a chicken or like
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: a chicken rather with his head cut off. Man, Well,
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: you have to go out of your way to welcome this,
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: this Sanders circus for a backup quarterback.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: There's no circus. He's just there saying Hi.
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: There's not He's not gonna run the damn organization or
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: be around all the time. He's got his own job.
• 14:58
  Speaker 6: They just they just went out of their way to
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: flu last year. This year it's a different story.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Man.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Again, if I'm the if I'm the Jaguars, if I'm
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks, and the Manning situation happens. This, this fantasy
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: Manning situation happens. I'm not going out of my way
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: to welcome the Manning family for a kid who isn't
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: going to start for me.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: How about you go out of your way to take
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: a break so we can get Adam Schefter.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: Adam, you chef here next live at Broncos Park. All
• 15:24
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• 15:27
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• 15:30
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• 15:34
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• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Lombardi and Mark Mosers. We are joined by Adam Schefter. Adam,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: how are you this morning?
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 15:43
  Speaker 9: Gentlemen, Nice to be back with you.
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: Here we go again, right, yeah, there we go. It's
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: great to see hey, Adam. I was just thinking about
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: this in your career, hey day. The days of the
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: smile and moose are gone, buddy, I mean, those are
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: absolutely history. Have you seen anything progress more than the
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: efficiency and the I guess professionalism of an NFL training
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: camp in the last thirty years.
• 16:09
  Speaker 10: Well, it's not the same.
• 16:10
  Speaker 11: It's not as physical, it's not as taxing like It
• 16:13
  Speaker 11: used to be that there were two practices every day
• 16:16
  Speaker 11: and guys would would pound on each other like I mean,
• 16:19
  Speaker 11: it was. It was very physical. Now there's a ramp
• 16:22
  Speaker 11: up period. You're in camp for a week before there's pads.
• 16:25
  Speaker 9: You know, I know, pads.
• 16:27
  Speaker 10: It's still pads, but it's not the same that I
• 16:29
  Speaker 10: remember back in the day.
• 16:31
  Speaker 11: I haven't heard the name of Smiling Moose in a
• 16:32
  Speaker 11: long time. That takes me down memory. Is this Smiling
• 16:37
  Speaker 11: Moose still there?
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: It's gone? You know?
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: But but Adam, those are the days where a member
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: of the media can actually sidle up to a player
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: at a place during camp.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: Me.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: You don't. It doesn't happen today. It's just there's that.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: There's no way that happens today.
• 16:52
  Speaker 9: Let me just say this to you. One of the great.
• 16:57
  Speaker 11: Fortunes, honors, privileges, learning experience in my career, whatever you
• 17:02
  Speaker 11: want to call it, was when I started covering the
• 17:05
  Speaker 11: Denver Broncos in nineteen ninety and I spent almost sixteen
• 17:08
  Speaker 11: years covering them, and when they trained in Greeley, Colorado,
• 17:13
  Speaker 11: and I go up there every summer. I stay in
• 17:14
  Speaker 11: the same dorm room and my phone number up there
• 17:17
  Speaker 11: was nine seven oh three five four two.
• 17:19
  Speaker 9: It was a rotary dial phone.
• 17:22
  Speaker 11: I was in there for fifteen years or fourteen years
• 17:24
  Speaker 11: before they moved back to and I would have as
• 17:28
  Speaker 11: you remember, we would have breakfast, lunch, and dinner in
• 17:34
  Speaker 11: the dining.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Hall with the players, yep, players, every meal, every meal.
• 17:39
  Speaker 10: Remember I remember walking in for breakfast and.
• 17:43
  Speaker 11: It's always the most lightly attended meal, but there'd be
• 17:47
  Speaker 11: ten of us, twelve us, and I'd be sitting a
• 17:49
  Speaker 11: couple of table lord from John Oh who was always
• 17:51
  Speaker 11: readden the paper.
• 17:52
  Speaker 10: He was always one of the last people.
• 17:53
  Speaker 11: And I always tried to go to breakfast late so
• 17:55
  Speaker 11: I can always see John like the acts was unbelievable.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: And if they didn't like something you wrote or said,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: you can discuss it, you could talk about it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: It would be those discussions. It would take place all
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 18:11
  Speaker 11: Well, you develop relationships because you're with them three meals
• 18:15
  Speaker 11: a day. You're at both practices. You're just around and
• 18:21
  Speaker 11: it's not like you know, you're spending a ton of time,
• 18:24
  Speaker 11: but you're all You're a presence there, and so I
• 18:28
  Speaker 11: just think it's very different today. It's why I always
• 18:30
  Speaker 11: tell people I got my undergraduate degree at Michigan, I
• 18:34
  Speaker 11: got my graduate degree at Northwestern, I got my master's
• 18:37
  Speaker 11: at Denver broncos You because fifteen years being around these
• 18:40
  Speaker 11: people at all times was it was transformational for me.
• 18:45
  Speaker 11: And that type of opportunity sadly doesn't exist today.
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: I don't think you tell me I'm not really out
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: of drinking much.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: It doesn't exist.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: It's going They keep the players as distanced as far
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: away as as possible, and you know, especially as you
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: well know, Sean Payton likes to run the camp his way,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: and there's just they don't see any value.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: In that anymore.
• 19:07
  Speaker 10: Correct.
• 19:07
  Speaker 11: Yeah, they don't need it. They don't need it, so
• 19:11
  Speaker 11: and they want to keep they want to control it
• 19:13
  Speaker 11: and have things on their schedule and and there are
• 19:16
  Speaker 11: rules that they have to abide by, which they do.
• 19:18
  Speaker 9: But that's all they have to do.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: Without that ability to like belly up to the bar
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: with the player, like you were talking about going late
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: and having a chat with John Elway, how do you
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: personally cultivate those relationships now?
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Then?
• 19:31
  Speaker 11: Uh, well, I'm at a different stage of my career
• 19:34
  Speaker 11: right like, so you know the people that I'm talking to,
• 19:40
  Speaker 11: you know, front offices, coaches, I'm just texting them like
• 19:43
  Speaker 11: I'm on the phone day that I've known them for years.
• 19:46
  Speaker 11: That's again, it's a blessing for covering the spot for
• 19:51
  Speaker 11: thirty seven years that you could, you know, reach out
• 19:56
  Speaker 11: to various people and get them like that.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Right, you bet well? You got the b Jon Robinson
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: story this morning. The highest paid running back in NFL history. Now,
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: were you a little surprised over three years, seventy five million?
• 20:11
  Speaker 11: No? No, I think that that was exactly where you
• 20:15
  Speaker 11: thought it was going to come in. And it becomes
• 20:19
  Speaker 11: a road mark and a benchmark for Jamior Gibbs and
• 20:23
  Speaker 11: Jonathan Taylor, and you know, it's about time that running
• 20:26
  Speaker 11: back salaries go up and he's the new highest peak
• 20:29
  Speaker 11: and that's how it should be, you know, Adam.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: That's a great that's a great point though. So now
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: these other guys are going to slot into place, although
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: maybe Jamiir's is not bijeon. But what, in your opinion,
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: do teams just follow the market that's now been set.
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: I know agents certainly do, or do teams? Is it
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: really rare now for them just to hold tough on
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: the number that they want to offer and that's it?
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: How does that work nowadays when you have a market
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: set like Bijeon.
• 20:56
  Speaker 11: Well, I think that's what is holding up the Gibbs
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: deal basically and the Johnson tell deal because they knew
• 21:06
  Speaker 11: that they knew that jon would come in probably with
• 21:12
  Speaker 11: the highest one, and and so they I think Gibbs
• 21:16
  Speaker 11: and Taylor were both waiting for this deal to get done.
• 21:19
  Speaker 11: And now they'll get as close to that deal as possible.
• 21:22
  Speaker 11: And now maybe they could even beat it. I don't
• 21:24
  Speaker 11: know like the way you structure it, but if if
• 21:27
  Speaker 11: they beat it, and I would bet they they're right there,
• 21:30
  Speaker 11: but I'll bet they don't.
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: Like I'll bet all three deals.
• 21:32
  Speaker 11: Coming very soon, that's what it'll be. And so Gibbs
• 21:36
  Speaker 11: was gonna be the I mean, Jean was gonna.
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: Be the first one that Gibbs and Jonathan Steler.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: The next big contract that we've been talking about, whether
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: it's Riley Moss possibly playing his way out of Denver
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: because they're up against the cap next year.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: They have to roll a whole bunch of things over.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: The obvious one is bo Nicks when he's off of
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: his rookie extension. What does he have to do to
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: get people on board with him being a fifty five
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: possibly sixty million dollars quarterback.
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: Well, here's the deal.
• 22:10
  Speaker 11: He's not contract eligible till after this year. So if
• 22:14
  Speaker 11: the Denver Broncers have the kind of year that everybody's
• 22:17
  Speaker 11: gonna want them to have, I'd be surprised if they
• 22:21
  Speaker 11: didn't sit down to see if they could work out
• 22:23
  Speaker 11: a deal Like that's what.
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: It's gonna be.
• 22:26
  Speaker 11: Now, tell me what the year looks like for bow
• 22:28
  Speaker 11: Is he a top five quarterback? Is he a top
• 22:30
  Speaker 11: ten quarterback? Top fifty? Do they get to the conference
• 22:34
  Speaker 11: championship game? Do they get to the Super Bowl? Do
• 22:36
  Speaker 11: they tell me what all those things are, because they'll
• 22:39
  Speaker 11: all play a role in how aggressive Denver will be
• 22:43
  Speaker 11: and what that deal will come in at. I think,
• 22:45
  Speaker 11: I think, and if he has a great year, I
• 22:48
  Speaker 11: would think that they'll rush to get it done in
• 22:50
  Speaker 11: the off season if the deal, if the years down there,
• 22:53
  Speaker 11: there's no urgency there in the off season. So there's
• 22:56
  Speaker 11: so many variables that are tied up into his and
• 22:58
  Speaker 11: their season. That's why it's a really important year for Bonnicks.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Can I ask you a media question pertaining to Sean Payton,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Adam So, I'm sure You've read the Seth Wickersham piece,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: which was Wow, was it long and was it detailed?
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: And it was wonderful.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: And as I'm reading this and it's happening all during
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: the AFC Championship week, and there's.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: A lot of secrets that I'm like, Wow, I can't
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: believe he admitted that. I can't believe he said that.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: My question to you is, what do you think.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: The motivation was for Sean Payton to do that piece,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: to invite a writer embed him here for two weeks.
• 23:35
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 23:38
  Speaker 11: Sean obviously could best answer that question, but my guess
• 23:42
  Speaker 11: would be I think sometimes Sean just likes having somebody
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: as like a built in sounding board slash therapist slash
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: advice just like it, not like a fresh new voice.
• 23:55
  Speaker 11: And I think it has something to do with that.
• 24:02
  Speaker 11: I think it has something to do with the fact that,
• 24:04
  Speaker 11: you know, he believed in this team and he believe
• 24:06
  Speaker 11: it's gonna be a magical year, and how cool would
• 24:07
  Speaker 11: it have been to have it documented. I believe he's
• 24:14
  Speaker 11: proud of the work that they put in. I mean,
• 24:16
  Speaker 11: I have a lot of things, but I do think
• 24:18
  Speaker 11: it's it's as much having just somebody to kind of
• 24:22
  Speaker 11: talk to like stung can be like that, you know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 11: like he he he'll kind of connect to somebody and
• 24:31
  Speaker 11: you hear from him quite a bit.
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: You have a lot of conversations, you know. So, uh,
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: he just.
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: Kind of imported it to Denver.
• 24:38
  Speaker 11: It was in the building. Guy was always around as
• 24:40
  Speaker 11: a sounding board some version of that.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Vic I would say, yeah, that makes a lot of
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I I just found it interesting
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: and and and my answer would be I think he
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: expected and the invite was probably before bo Nick's got hurt.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: I think he expected this team to go to the
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: super Bowl. And I agree with you. I think he
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: wanted that documented and it didn't work out that way.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: And hey, listen, the other thing I've said about Peyton
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Sean Payton in the past.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: He don't like his players talking in the media. He
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: don't like any of that.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: He'll do that, he'll take on that role. He'll be
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: the uh, he'll be the guy that uh uh. You know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: every year it seems he says something that becomes topical.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: But he'd rather be him than the players themselves.
• 25:26
  Speaker 11: Well, and and let's be honest, he is a very
• 25:30
  Speaker 11: charismatic talker, like you could listen to him for hours,
• 25:32
  Speaker 11: Like he's very insightful and educating. There are certain guys,
• 25:35
  Speaker 11: there are certain head coaches who say nothing, nothing, Like
• 25:38
  Speaker 11: you could listen to their press concises and there's just
• 25:40
  Speaker 11: not a lot of meat there.
• 25:41
  Speaker 9: Like Mike Shanahan was like that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 11: Like Mike was brilliant, but his press conciss they were
• 25:48
  Speaker 11: they were bland.
• 25:50
  Speaker 9: Kyle, on the other.
• 25:52
  Speaker 11: Hand, is incredible, incredible, Like if you read his transcripts
• 25:57
  Speaker 11: and listen to us, it's like football tos and shown
• 26:01
  Speaker 11: is the same way.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: By the way, Adam, I saw a photo of Kyle's
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: face after that accident, and my goodness, Uh that has
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: he been back at practice yet?
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Is he? When is he expected back?
• 26:16
  Speaker 11: I've been doing things slowly but surely, wrapping up. Yeah,
• 26:21
  Speaker 11: he's he's feeling a little bit better. He's still got headaches,
• 26:24
  Speaker 11: but he's doing a little bit better.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: That was ugly.
• 26:29
  Speaker 10: Wait, wait, where gets see a picture of his face?
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I saw it. I saw it.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen one yet.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: No, it's not public, it's not public. No, it's not
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: out there orbital. No, it's you know, it's bad. It's bad.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: I mean I mean, you could tell it's a Sylvester
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Stallone Rocky three bad one of those, one of those deals.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: So I'm just happy that he survived that thing and
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: he's back to coaching, and it's a it's a major
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: scare for him. And hey, before we let you go,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Aaron Donald, any doubt in your mind that he's gonna
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: football for the Rams.
• 27:01
  Speaker 9: You know, it's funny.
• 27:02
  Speaker 11: I talked about this in my podcast I just recorded
• 27:04
  Speaker 11: about an hour ago, and I would say that we
• 27:09
  Speaker 11: all certainly feel like it's trending that way. And when
• 27:12
  Speaker 11: Sean McVay says it's heading the right direction and trending upward,
• 27:18
  Speaker 11: I think you take note.
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah, But what I do not think it is done.
• 27:25
  Speaker 11: I do not think it's official. I do not think
• 27:27
  Speaker 11: there's anything you've read upon. And I do think it's
• 27:30
  Speaker 11: contingent upon Aaron Donald believing that Aaron Donald can get
• 27:33
  Speaker 11: himself back to Aaron Donald form, and if he feels
• 27:37
  Speaker 11: like he can't do that, he's not going to come back.
• 27:41
  Speaker 10: But obviously he's trying to do that and he's hoping.
• 27:46
  Speaker 11: To do that, but he's not there yet, and I
• 27:49
  Speaker 11: think everybody believes he'll get there, and everybody wants him
• 27:52
  Speaker 11: to get there, but it's not there just yet.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Another question around the league, Adam Vidave Baker Mayfield. Who
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: has the better chance to get a deal done to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: stay in Tampa Bay or both of them kind of
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: in their final season or final training camp with the Bucks.
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: Another topic on the podcast. But what I would say.
• 28:12
  Speaker 11: Is is I don't see I don't see a Vita
• 28:18
  Speaker 11: deal getting done here shortly.
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: I do not see that.
• 28:23
  Speaker 10: Baker shut it down. So we'll see, but they have
• 28:28
  Speaker 10: the franchise tag.
• 28:30
  Speaker 11: I don't see anything happening with Via anytime soon. I
• 28:32
  Speaker 11: think a tree could come to play later in camp.
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: Wow.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: That is ESPN senior NFL insider Adam Schefter joining us
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: weekly here on Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five. Chefty,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Thank you, good.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: To have you back, Buddy.
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: Nice to see him again, you bet.
• 28:46
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• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Guest Hotline live out here at Broncos Park. The sun
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: is trying to peek out as we thaw out from
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: our morning freeze. Yeah, Vitavey and Baker Bay Mayfield Bull
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: shutting down contract.
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: That Hey man, Tampa, you're blowing it well they I mean,
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: I don't know if they're blowing it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Are they just blowing it up right? Like Mike Evans
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Leaves and Baker they feel like they've gotten the juice
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: out of that squeeze.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's why they don't want to pay him, because
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: they figure, let's just start off three.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Second, completely wipe the slate cleaning like again, I think
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: would look awesome here in a Broncos uniform, but they
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: just simply can't fit him.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: It's just it accordd weird to me, the losing his
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: franchise in NFL history, finally find some success. I mean,
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Tom Brady goes there, they go to Super Bowl, win
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: a super Bowl, Baker Mayfield gives him life, and now
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: they want to quit.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, what were they before that?
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: What were they that had creamsicle uniform?
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean they wanted to Gruden, they want
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: with John Jeff Garcia there.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean what were they?
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: I mean in the late seventies, eighties and nineties, they
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: were terrible?
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they were the the the first coach of the
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, what's his name?
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: H yeah? Nick John mcvagh. Yes, is that is that?
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Sean mcvay's dad. No, well he was old in the
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: late seventies, right, father, But could be. I don't know. Uh,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: what do you got, Raj? He's looking it up. Okay,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: they've got.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: A grand son is Sean mcga Okay, so John, Okay,
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: there you go, Raj.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Late seventies.
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: Reporters goes like this, Uh, what about the execution of
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: your offense?
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: He says, I'm in favor of it. Hey, there's ever
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: a quote or something from fifty years ago? I got you? Sure,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I got it. He doesn't know what zara is, but
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: he's got something from fifty years He can take his
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: in and beat urine, and he can take urine and
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: beat his'n.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: What's the tzar?
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: The Broncos out here ahead of practice, Evan Ingram walking
• 30:48
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• 30:52
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  Speaker 2: Goes Park on a Chile Tuesday morning. Your Broncos Training
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Camp show with d mac plumbus coach Mike Sanford and
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  Speaker 2: Scottie Hastings. Coming up from ten to two. RAJ film
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: in for Kaner all week longest alongside Vic and moj Fellas.
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  Speaker 2: We have a new Burnham Yard sight layout as of
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  Speaker 2: about thirty minutes ago.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you go to Denver Broncos dot com,
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  Speaker 4: it's even deeper detail about what they plan on doing.
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  Speaker 4: We have no real summation of the stadium itself that
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: they don't have any renderings of the stadium, but the
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: renderings they have just produced and this is within the
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  Speaker 4: last hour of the community around the stadium. And this
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: is in light of what Demani Leech said on Saturday.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: They're trying to, you know, push this through in a hurry.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: They want to get going. Look at some of these drawings,
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: the detail of the stuff around the stadium itself, it's
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: very details. Eighth Avenue is going away. Well, they're gonna
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: reroute it. Well, I mean they're gonna it. Looks like
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: bridge is gone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna put it.
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  Speaker 6: They're gonna put it somehow through the middle of this
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  Speaker 6: development with turntable and South end and blah blah blah
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  Speaker 6: blah blah.
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  Speaker 3: So you could probably.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: Still drive through there, but Eighth Avenue the way what
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: you know of eighth Avenue right now, it's goes.
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  Speaker 2: Some of these renderings. Man, it's so very clear that
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  Speaker 2: they've used AI to do some of them.
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  Speaker 3: Look at the.
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  Speaker 2: Mile high line rendering. Do you see something that's wrong
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  Speaker 2: here about the joggers.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, they're running into each other.
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  Speaker 5: They're actively running in the middle of an RTD line.
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  Speaker 5: Some of those wackos do that.
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  Speaker 3: Some of them will do that. They're gonna turn like the.
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  Speaker 4: Whole Burnham Yard area around the stadium into your unique
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  Speaker 4: neighborhoods and zones, Like everyone's got a zone that they're
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  Speaker 4: gonna be.
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  Speaker 6: In, Village Center, North and South End, Turntable blah blah
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  Speaker 6: blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's all fine and dan, we know that new
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: stadiums come with new stadium districts.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: It's just the way of the world.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Now, my question is, I know that the city had
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: the mandate of no parking.
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  Speaker 5: They're getting rid of tailgating.
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  Speaker 4: There's not this mass Well, that's not a mandate, it's
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: just that they want they want to push transportation via train.
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  Speaker 5: The heck am I supposed to park if I'm not
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  Speaker 5: going by train?
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  Speaker 4: Here's the question I have here's the question I have,
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  Speaker 4: and I've heard people mention this before. I understand. I
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: understand because the ball Arena redevelopment projects doing the same thing.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: They want people taking public transportation to these games. And
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: the parking is still there, but a lot of it
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: will be underground. Mind you, it's not gonna be surface parking.
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  Speaker 3: Cool.
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking at the renderings here of Burnham Yard and
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: the parking lots are tiny compared to what we see
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  Speaker 4: now at Mile High Stadium. So you're not gonna have
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: the same availability for tailgating.
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  Speaker 3: But there will be some. I mean, there still are
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  Speaker 3: parking lots there.
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  Speaker 4: There just won't. You're gonna have areas to tailgate, you
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  Speaker 4: just gotta. I'm gonna have cars in those areas. You're
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: gonna have to find different ways to tailgate. Right, Here's
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: a question I have.
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  Speaker 6: If a lot of neighborhood out there, man, missus Smith's
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: front yard sounds pretty good. If she wants to charge,
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: you know, twenty bucks ahead, I don't know.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: But here's my the hold out there.
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  Speaker 4: So if everyone is going to push this, h take
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  Speaker 4: the training approach, which is great, you know, I mean,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: you know, I've been to Manhattan. I love taking this something.
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  Speaker 4: It's easy, it's it's great, it's awesome. But I want
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  Speaker 4: to ask you, though, on a game day, there's seventy
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  Speaker 4: eight thousand people that go to a game. How the
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: hell are you gonna put seventy thousand people on the
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  Speaker 4: train and get them there on time?
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  Speaker 3: You're not let me let me, let me want to
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  Speaker 3: tell you about this train. I'm not gonna talk to
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  Speaker 3: you about this train.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, remember when the train broke down some time ago
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  Speaker 6: and it was doing like ten miles per hour and
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: all this kind of thing. Hey, man, if you want
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  Speaker 6: us to use public transportation and you're you're trying to
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: force that issue, you better make it good. Okay, you
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: better not better not slow down to ten because of
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  Speaker 6: a broken switch or what I mean. You better be
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  Speaker 6: on the ball RTD you it better be good.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm all for it.
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  Speaker 6: I take the train from Parker downtown plenty plenty, and
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  Speaker 6: let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 5: Why don't you do it for your next game down there?
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  Speaker 5: How's that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's that's hard to be a chance he would
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  Speaker 3: do that? Well, that's hard.
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  Speaker 6: That's that's more difficult because my time is more valuable
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: than being on the train. But that being said, I
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: take it down for shows, concerts, dinners. I use that
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  Speaker 6: train plenty, bro, and most of the time I have
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  Speaker 6: a good experience. Most sometimes you know, things break down,
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  Speaker 6: you're waiting. It's all this kind of crap. Not to
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: mention it takes over an hour to get from my
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: station down to ball Arena, well over an hour. So
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: it's like, you better make it convenient for people if
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: you want to try and force it, otherwise you have
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: a big mess of problems on your hands. I'm all
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: for public transpo, man. I wish we had trains and
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: subways running all over the place.
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  Speaker 3: Vic. I'm just like you. I don't mind taking the
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  Speaker 3: trade at all. But a better word. So, according to
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  Speaker 3: this as I'm reading more detail, and there's a lot
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: of detail in these plans right now, they're in communications
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  Speaker 3: and engagement with the community. That's where they're standing right now.
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  Speaker 3: They want to hurry up that process because they got
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: to get to design, and then after design and they
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: get the agreement, construction according to this plan here will
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  Speaker 3: begin at the beginning or at the end of quarter
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  Speaker 3: two in twenty twenty seven. That's quarter two twenty twenty
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  Speaker 3: seven quarter three.
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  Speaker 4: So basically a year from now, a year from now,
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  Speaker 4: there'll be you know, shovels in the ground and construction
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: will be gaining.
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  Speaker 3: They'll be pushing dirt. Yeah yeah. So if this all.
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  Speaker 5: Goes to schedule going into the final year of Sean
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  Speaker 5: Payton's contract, is brand new stadium.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if things are on time, and things are
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: always delayed. Remember when they did so Fi. Remember what
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: delayed so Fi for a year? Remember the head those
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: massive floods in La and the hole was full of water, yep,
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: and it took them a year to get the water
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  Speaker 4: out of there.
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  Speaker 2: You think it's delayed, but they got this thing done
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  Speaker 2: ahead of Skale.
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  Speaker 4: It's a different story down there, brother. I mean, you're
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: out here in a Rapahoe County and you own this land.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: This is your land. A much easier thing to work
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: with than look at the chaos that is the Burnham
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  Speaker 4: Yard area and all the roadways and all the ins
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  Speaker 4: and outs that's gonna that's a major puzzle to solve
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  Speaker 4: down there.
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  Speaker 3: Again, you still have to.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Move the water facility Denver Water still got to come
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: to terms with that, that cement shop. Whatever, you gotta
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Reroute Eighth Avenue Viaduct. There's a lot of work to
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: be done there and it will come with problems.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about holdouts. You guys are golf guys. Whistling
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Streets which held the Ryder Cup a couple of sessions
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  Speaker 2: ago and a PGA championship back in twenty fifteen. There
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: is a swath of trees in the middle of the
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  Speaker 2: eighteenth and the ninth fairways at Whistling Streets in Wisconsin.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: There's a cabin in the middle of those trees. There's
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: a reason why they haven't been mowed down. One dude
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: held out and is still holding out and owns that property.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: He walks through that course every single day. He brings
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  Speaker 2: groceries to and from one of the best courses in
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: the country, Kney, and still hasn't sold it. And you'll
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  Speaker 2: have you'll have concrete companies that are holding out for
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  Speaker 2: whatever extra dollar they possibly can. I guess my next
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: question is, with as sprawling and as beautiful as these
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  Speaker 2: renderings are of the surrounding area, does that make you
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more comfortable with Well, if it's financed
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  Speaker 2: by the ownership group and the state isn't paying for
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: this and the people aren't paying for this does make
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: you more comfortable.
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  Speaker 5: With the personal seating license issue.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Movie Well, I'm not a season ticket older, so yeah,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't worry me. But there are people
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: listening to the show that are so who wants to
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: fot the bill? Who wants to pay an extra ten
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: to twenty grand per ticket or for four tickets if
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: they don't have to. I mean, obviously it concerns them.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: But the point I made yesterday is there's such a
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: long line of Bronco fans waiting for Broncos tickets. If
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: they don't pay, somebody else will. And that is the
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: heavy truth. There's no other way, and I think the Broncos.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Know that either way.
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  Speaker 6: Let me say this, there's nobody advocating to keep Burnham
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  Speaker 6: Yard the way it is anymore, right, vic. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: if you've been there, and I've been there on more
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  Speaker 6: than one occasion, Raj, it's dead land. It's dead, it's
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: weeds and broken concrete and junk.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: It's a perfect spot for them.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely it is.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: When you look at this and you look at what's
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: gonna happen at Ball Arena, you talk about economic viability
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: for this city.
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  Speaker 3: This is huge. The city does nothing but benefit fro Qus.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: I want someone believe I need someone to answer. Is
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: this our last segment? This is it? Okay? Two minutes?
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: I need somebody to answer a question. And and Dmax
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: here he takes a train a lot. Maybe Dmac can
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: help answer this question. I remember at the super Bowl
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: in New York City, super Bowl forty eight, the biggest
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, you talk about it in Broglio, the biggest
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: issue at that super Bowl. After the game ended, everybody
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: jumped on the trains outside that stadium and no one
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: could get out. So someone explained to me, if the
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: train is going to be the number one source of
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: transportation to this new stadium and there are seventy eight
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: thousand people that attend Bronco games, how in the hell
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: are you gonna get people in and out of that?
• 40:19
  Speaker 12: It's so funny. I was just thinking on my cliffs.
• 40:20
  Speaker 12: I go one light rail stop, huh And what I
• 40:23
  Speaker 12: was looking at are yeah, yeah, yeah, he goes a
• 40:27
  Speaker 12: five years though.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Whatever. Let me let me God, dang it, do you
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: know how mean.
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  Speaker 6: That?
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Right? Mac? I ride the train.
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: I've got first hand knowledge about all of this.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: I ride that moth.
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: I know the engine, the outs, I know the good
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: and the bad, and most of the time I have
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: a good, good experience. But when I have a bad one,
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: I am flaming pissed on that train. I've gotten off
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: the train and taken ubers from different stops because I
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: can't handle it anymore.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: RTD, get your crap together.
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: Man, if you if this is gonna be real, you
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: better have more trains, faster, more efficient, more people, more everything.
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  Speaker 12: It's funny because I was just up in Seattle for
• 41:09
  Speaker 12: USA soccer the whole thing. Remember USA had a soccer
• 41:11
  Speaker 12: tournament and something. Yeah, and Seattle was buses and the
• 41:15
  Speaker 12: bus system was unbelievable. And that's what I feel like.
• 41:18
  Speaker 12: We really just don't have on the same level. Sure,
• 41:22
  Speaker 12: the trains, whatever, but when you have buses running absolutely
• 41:25
  Speaker 12: non stop from all over the place, that made the
• 41:28
  Speaker 12: biggest difference to me.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Well, we try, but our buses are half the time
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: they're half empty. I gotta admit, I don't know if
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: I've ever taken like a b I shaking the bus
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: all the time.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: You take the bus from North Denver to downtown Denver
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: all the time.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: The buses were so prominent in Seattle. There were less cars.
• 41:44
  Speaker 12: I could tell there were less cars in Seattle because
• 41:46
  Speaker 12: of it, and they ran all the time like clockwork.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: And we don't have that. I know what you're saying.
• 41:51
  Speaker 12: And you're laughing about some of the things I've been
• 41:52
  Speaker 12: laughing about for well, I'm on that TENO State station all.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: All the time. It is a noble cause.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: It is a wonderful process. No, no, I'm saying this
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: whole thing about anti car like we don't want cars
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: down there.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: I love the thought process. It ain't gonna work.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: There's no there's I'm telling everybody right now, listen to me,
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: it ain't gonna work. We are in a car driven city.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: If you don't have a car here, you're out of luck.
• 42:27
  Speaker 12: Well, good luck into a game in that district on
• 42:29
  Speaker 12: game day without a car.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: That's It'll be on with our training camp show coming
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: up next from ten to two.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: But before we get out of here, Steve Nelson, where
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: did we go wrong?
• 42:40
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• 42:50
  Speaker 8: Injured shout out numerous Texters and twitters for catching this.
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: The first coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers was John mcmackay.
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: Hed to Sean McVay at all.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Didn't say, I said, then damn it.
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: Well, then when you looked it up and said that
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: Sean McVay was his grand and.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Because I looked up the guys whose name is is
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: what you.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: Doubled on mistake?
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: You doubled up on his mistake.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Sean McVay is Sean mcvay's grandfather.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: I'm not wrong, I'm always right. MOS is the wrong one.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Most we rely on you for fifty year old John
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: McKey Right.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: That's it for us today. For Mo'm feeling in for Kner.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: The Broncos training camp show coming up next.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: Don't go anywhere